My husband did mushrooms once and I don't know if our marriage will survive. The mushrooms told him

[@TheMrgbms]

I hate you for that "okay google" moment it made my phone trip out

[@verotique74]

I had a tubal ligation during C-section... I have had stabbing pains ever since. That's 21 years of stabbing pain... I was assured it was temporary and when it wasn't, I was assured it was "common" and it's not, and then told it'll stop when I go through menopause... It has not stopped. Tubal ligation is, or can be, very painful, and in some cases, forever. (Tubal done in 2004) I wish I had been better informed.

[@thisisanaltacct]

There is a thing called Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome, which includes symptoms of pain among a long list of other not fun side effects. According to one site (North Carolina Center of Reproductive Medicine) up to 37% of women experience symptoms of PTLS after healing from their tubal ligations. I could not find a good source on what percentage of those women experienced pain. On the other hand, men can also experience post-vasectomy scrotal or pelvic pain. According to the American Urological Association, pain associated with vasectomies significant enough to interfere with quality of life affected 1-2% of men. The failure rate of tubal ligation is 0.5%, and failure rate of vasectomy is 0.1-0.15%. I am not a fan of making someone get a medical procedure against their will. That is simply unethical. However, after pushing 4 whole ass human beings through her vagina (and wanting to be done with it after 2), it is not a huge ask to get snipped. He still has bodily autonomy. He doesn't HAVE TO get the procedure done, but she also doesn't HAVE TO stay married to him.

[@farawayxgalaxy]

I am so sorry you’ve had to go through this long in pain. I do want to say that using your story to help inform others as well is incredibly brave, and hopefully can help another AFAB in the future ❤️

[@bleedingroze]

It takes a really, really special set of people that can tackle being openly poly while raising a child with love and care. I wouldn’t wish that life on anyone. Poor guy.

[@slacksviii9824]

poly relationships dont work period, only people who think they do dont know how they actually work

[@SirScottt]

the colors you used for the word "mushrooms" in the thumbnail made me giggle

[@MissLeigh232]

Psychedelics are not for everyone.

[@WillowWasp]

Mushrooms are amazing. I have them once every few years, helps me confront underlying things. Shrooms don't cause this guy's outlook and behaviour. They uncover things that are already there.

[@Mischa21xo]

Nah. Just like lsd, they open up portals and allow demonic entities to have access to your temple AKA your body, and of course your mind. They will try to replace your thoughts with their own and most people don't even know, they just think they are their own thoughts but they are not. All drugs and alcohol give demonic entities access to you, it's not a coincidence why alcohol is also called spirits. Or why people blackout when they are drunk and they do things they never remember doing, and most of the time those things are bad, well who do you think is controlling your body when you are blacked out? Certainly not you. Best to stay away from those things, nothing good ever comes from them, evil is always beautiful on the outside, that's how it draws people in and fools them. But once it has you in its grasp, you will see how ugly it really is.

[@thisisanaltacct]

Although I can't agree with everything you said, there is some truth in a psychedelic experience uncovering things that are already there. For some, psychoactive substances are more like pouring gasoline on tinder and lighting it on fire. If there is a latent mental illness, those substances can ignite it. Whether or not the illness works have been triggered later if not for the drugs is up for debate. Please use these substances with caution if you have a family history of psychosis, and do not use them at all if you have been diagnosed with a mental illness with psychotic features. Psychedelics can be medicine, but any medicine taken recklessly or at the wrong dose can become a poison.

[@francinetitherington4060]

Origionally psychadelics were only advised as something used as part of supervised sessions with psychiatrists. Even those were within an institutionalized settings.

[@mog-gyveroneill2500]

Depending on one person for your happiness is not a good idea..loving someone does not mean they should owe their happiness to you. That's basically saying you only love what they can do for you.

[@mog-gyveroneill2500]

2nd story: I am a fertile mertle, I totally get why OP would want her husband to get a vasectomy. Doesn't he realise that even if that marriage doesn't last, he STILL has 4 kids??? He's the dumbass.

[@mog-gyveroneill2500]

3rd story. One but isn't going to fix a lifetime of neglect. The parents are buttholes.

[@mog-gyveroneill2500]

4th story. I hate pranks. OP is not the douch.

[@mog-gyveroneill2500]

5th story. Divorce your husband, he's a manchild

[@RedK5]

@@mog-gyveroneill2500all pranks?

[@dullicecream]

Story 1: got scared the story wouldn’t end well, very relieved it didn’t :) Mushrooms seem crazy and a little scary lol

[@9LiveEmpire]

i guess it depend of the person and strain i have try them and 'all' i got was a nice 'meditative' trip and the colors where more vibrant and beautiful

[@varishav271]

He has the right to decide if he has a vasectomy, and she has the right to say that is a deal breaker. However, his comments of birth control is only her job is a major red flag and worthy of a possible split on its own.

[@imajinallthepurple]

I only know one who's tried mushrooms... He only tried it once and ended up in prison for manslaughter committed during his trip. Please stay away from that cr_p.

[@VirginiaDowdy777821]

Whoa. That took a turn I wasn't expecting. O_O My condolences to the victims and their families.

[@imajinallthepurple]

@@VirginiaDowdy777821 Thanks. ❤️ She was a close friend of his family and he went into her coincidentally unlocked house at night (he was used to going straight in there without knocking during the day). She got scared and picked up a kitchen knife to make him leave, he wrestled it away from her and..... He was so far gone he went to sleep in her bed fully believing he was at home and had no memory of any of it when the cops woke him up. He was only 17. So I kind of take it personally when people claim mushrooms are a "harmless" or "fun" drug.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Best anti drug psa

[@ryangooseling]

Looked it up and quad core makes a tablet/dvd player with android os

[@_lei_c_8138]

All praise Lord Hex! (AKA: Mr. Narrator Guy. I vote we call him Lord Hex cuz it’s cool) 🎉

[@spiritwolf3103]

You got my vote

[@kacyandlaura]

The parents are in the wrong for neglecting their son in story 4. When you choose to be a parent you are choosing a job, and there is no excuse for doing a bad job. If your doctor missed your broken bone during your appointment they would be neglectful. They are guilty. They neglected him. If they had cared they would have noticed.

[@carmenlynn5441]

Definitly ego death. Ive had sinilar lifechanging feelings and new perspectives about life after some acid and shrooms, a lot of depersonalizing and deeply empathetic sentiments that havent really gone away. Sometimes i think im turning cynical though

[@Mommakas]

A lot of men really would rather have us be the only ones responsible for birth control.

[@metal.gendalf]

Story 3: It's just neglect. Poly has nothing to do with it. It could just as well have been their work, hobbies, habbits or addictions. The key is their selfishness and selfcenterness.

[@thisisanaltacct]

Yes, he was absolutely emotionally neglected, which is a form of child abuse. Good on him being in therapy, but the damage has been done.

[@PilloTheStar]

Poly definitely had something to do with it. As a kid knowing your parents screw other people is a harrowing mental image to have. Makes you feel like a freak.

[@erin3269]

OP from the first story seems to be divorcing their husband as of about three months ago. Seems they deleted the original post, but has since commented the following on another subreddit about living : "I'm getting divorced and going to set up my first solo space soon. I've been contemplating bed size." Wishing OP the best.

[@lucyscottwalker2203]

I had a tubal ligation after my fourth child (four under six) while still in the hospital from giving birth. That was 1981. All family was on the other side of the world, so no help like they have today. Everything was fine. I remember my stomach being sore in the hospital when I coughed, that's all. It was not a c section. I didn't want any more children so took steps to protect myself. I didn't put it on anyone else.

[@4ncientGu150]

Today I learned.... Don't do drugs

[@Lfancoes]

Story 2: OP's husband said unforgiveable things, just stop at that and separate. OP is NTA for separating for that reason, but not sure on the vasectomy part. I would be more on OP side if she did not held the marriage and kids hostage. Yeah, OP don't "force" him to do vasectomy, but if he did not do that. it is what it is. and you can kiss goodbye to your child. I'm sorry but this is coercion for me. And honestly by separating OP will give up sex life anyway. which baffle me why OP she did not want to make sacrifice on the sex part. My golden rule is, if you switch the gender then its bad. IT IS BAD regardless of the gender.

[@countrygirl7402]

I agree. She's blackmailing him. He's a jerk in some things but dang!!! She's a controlling a-hole!!!!

[@cheeseman1115]

I would get then snip for my partner I would rather have a simple procedure then her endure anymore “trauma” she’s given me 2 kids and that’s all we want we’re young and we want to raise the 2 we have with plenty of love and attention why would I not be willing to put myself through a small amount of discomfort when she’s been through excruciating pain 2 times it’s the least I could do as my part in the relationship

[@frostsagaino3611]

Dude you literally triggered my google assistant

[@uncutshrimp2933]

30:18 BOTH GET IT DAMN GET BOTH OR SHUT UP BOTH GET IT REGHH

[@uncutshrimp2933]

I’m joking btw

[@sarriarip]

I had a trip, and I saw my ex as a monster. Then after a few months, no trip, I saw that monster in him again.

[@kacyandlaura]

About the couple who is having birth control issues: When we are young we hold a yes/no, good/bad, in/out kind of viewpoint. This immaturity is the root of the problem for both the wife and husband. We can be quick to pull out one reason for not doing something rather than weighing it in a more nuanced way. Ectopic pregnancies from IUDs aren’t common. When we are young we also feel like we have lots of options with our life and future. It may be true, but it is foolish to be so quick to shut out your husband and father of your children, though he was in the wrong a few times. He was obviously being immature and reactive too. If you’re going to raise 4 kids either together or apart you’re going to have to grow up! From someone who has had 4 kids, an IUD, and (with no IUD at the time) an ectopic pregnancy.

[@francinetitherington4060]

Last story: Sue FIL for defamation of character.

[@linola644]

You should not depend on anyone to be happy !! It's not healthy !!

[@countrygirl7402]

The pregnant woman story... i understand how she felt. Heres my issue... she is placing sole responsibility for birth control on him or her or in one method. If you're a Fertile Myrtle (like me) you use 5 different things at the same time. The pill, condoms, spermicide, pull out... you do not depend on 1 method. Also, men are protective of the family jewels. I know it's stupid. Accept it. Get over it. I had a tubal 27 years ago. It can be done right. You instruct your dr to remove or collapse the fallopian tube. I didn't get my "tubes tied." I had a section cut from the tube, and a lazer burned and collaped the tubes. No ectopic pregnancy is possible in that case. My recovery was uncomfortable for a few days. I had 4 small children as well. My oldest was 4 and I just had a newborn. 92 - 97 and 4 children. I said done. No more. I was 28, and I told my doctor to fix it. And that if I were to get pregnant again, I was hunting him down for child support. I was serious. He then said ok I can do it this way, but it's 100% permanent. I said good. So he proceeded. Thank you Dr. Timmons. You did an excellent job. So OP needs to stop whining about what she can't force another person to do. Do it herself. Is it a bigger deal... I don't think so. His recovery is shorter but its still getting clipped. He doesn't want to do it. He does not want to do it. That is the most important thing. He does not want to do it. And she is trying to blackmail him into it. "I'll divorce you. I'm keeping the kids away. This is your fault. You broke my trust." I call BS. She has gone through trauma, which doesn't give her the right to dictate what happens to other people. Now one other option is available for her. Abstinence. But she said no, i can't do that. She has an excuse for everything. She's a controlling a-hole. Sorry if people don't agree.

[@marcruth4531]

Funny how you don't seem to acknowledge that Jack is doing the exact same thing to her. Pretty hypocritical, by my estimation.

[@deusex4905]

Wow. You really don't have a lot of empathy. It takes two people to have a child but it's still her fault. If she wants to break up with him because they don't agree on the contraception it's also her choice. Abstinence is ultimately the best way to not have kids. He also treats her as replaceable. HE can't have a vasectomy because he wants the possibility to get another woman pregnant, but it doesn't matter if SHE wants the possibility to have another man in their life later. In the end, she's the one the most in danger and difficulty with pregnancy so I can understand why she doesn't to take any risk

[@ArtsyShikigami]

You know I agree with this take actually for the most part. The thought occurred to me, though, that even if OP's husband agreed to getting the vasectomy done, what if the marriage falls apart anyway due to the argument they had? Then he would've just gotten that procedure done for nothing in the end. I dont know how reversible a vasectomy is, but its gotta be tricky, right? And even if it isn't, it'll still cost him financially.

[@MizutamariVT]

​@marcruth4531 because we're not reading Jacks story, we're reading OPs. OP is even denying what she's doing very blatantly and being intentionally obtuse to anyone that points out flaws in her argument. It's hilarious she pulls "I thought he was pro-choice" while demanding that he get s vasectomy,which she's totally not demanding, just telling him that if he refuses he's gonna get divorced and have to fight for rights to his kids.

[@ArtsyShikigami]

@@MizutamariVT Thank you for pointing out the double-standard

[@NightPhoenixPress]

Those DVD tablets are real and they’re cheap now.

[@OmegaSpecter87]

2 grams... Dont give them a quarter or a half ounce

[@tgkisnotreal]

ok but calling someone "doorknob" is pretty funny, just really badly timed

[@ArtsyShikigami]

Story 3: Sooo OP ultimatum is marriage counseling and a vasectomy from the husband. No problem with the first part but I have issue with the second. What happens if the husband gets the vasectomy, they go through the counseling, but they get divorced in the end anyway? OP's husband gets a surgery for nothing? And sure, a vasectomy can be reversed, but it's not an absolute guarantee he will be able to get another woman pregnant, especially if he's had the vasectomy for a while.

[@tonemaster4608]

Yeah, same thought, if op wanted to no longer have children, then she should be the one getting the surgery

[@9LiveEmpire]

s6: i don't get it, if the FIL was insulting when husband not here, why not record to prove it to the husband? we almost all got this multi-function tool in our pocket that can record audio and video even in the pocket

[@karenturner9423]

all shrooms did for me - the one time I tried them - was make me sicker than the proverbial canine ( psilocybin).

[@bluediamond3248]

NTA, Birth control is a two way street. A woman can take all the proper precautions but birth control CAN fail, it takes two people to make a baby. Plus the whole "you are forcing me to get a medical procedure done" while saying OP should get a medical procedure done is laughable. Will the husband be taking time off of work to watch the kids while OP recovers from getting her tubes tied? His wife is literally pregnant with twins, pregnancy is severely taxing on your body especially when you have more than one baby growing in your body and he was practically saying "well I want to be able to have kids with my future wife" as if he is already making plans to leave OP and that is disgusting. OP has been trying to take measures to take birth control and it obviously hasn't been working but he can't put in the effort to try? He should be less concerned about his imaginary future wife and more about the health and happiness of his CURRENT wife the mother of his children. It's his decision not to get a vasectomy he has the right to do with his body as she does with her's, she isn't forcing him to get the procedure done it's not like she is physically holding a gun to his head telling him he has to get snipped or get shot. Glad they talked it through but a break might be for the best. Good luck OP.

[@bethmoran6190]

Most vasectomies can be done in the doctors office and the patient is left with just a couple of stitches. A tubal ligation is an invasive surgery and takes several weeks to recover from fully. My husband had a vasectomy while I was pregnant with our fourth child. Within five days he was riding his motorcycle and within a week we were having sex again. Any man in my opinion who refuses a vasectomy is not very much of a man. most birth control devices and pills contain hormones that screw up a woman’s system.

[@mollyfarrell.]

Get a hysterectomy if you don't want anymore children....demanding somebody else sterilise themselves is the height of entitlement

[@crazyminegamer2339]

By that same logic, any woman who refuses any sort of birth control surgery when they don’t want kids is not a real woman. If a man doesn’t want to physically alter his body as a form of birth control, he has as much right to refuse as any woman. I’m a woman who has no desire for kids and no intention to take any birth control meds because of how much they screwed with my hormones when I did, nor do I intend to get any sort of surgery because the idea of physically altering my body in anyway through surgery just grosses me out. However, I’m still a real woman who’s just choosing abstinence as my birth control. I know your comment probably wasn’t about everything I just said. However, that last line just irked me because it removes choice and shames men for choosing not to get life altering surgery so they don’t have kids. Whether that was your intention or not, that’s still what it was saying by saying “no real man refuses to get a vasectomy if they don’t want kids” (I’m assuming you were only referring to the men who don’t want kids).

[@availanila]

​@@crazyminegamer2339 all these words to say you refuse to comprehend and understand. 99% of people on permanent or temporary contraception are women. Clearly no woman who wants/needs contraception is on it but almost no man is acting in kind.

[@bethmoran6190]

@@crazyminegamer2339 is it your point that a woman should be in charge of all birth control? If two people have sex why should they not have equal obligation to birth control and whatever is less harmful to a persons body should be definitely considered.

[@crazyminegamer2339]

@@bethmoran6190 Nope. That’s why there should be a version of the pill for men. My point was that men currently have permanent potentially irreversible surgery and hoping a condom works, while women have the options of permanent potentially irreversible surgery (more than one variant of it, mind you), a pill that messes with your hormones, and hoping the condoms works, so women have more options for contraception and 2 of the 3 aren’t permanent potentially irreversible things. I know if I had to choose between taking the pill and my partner getting a vasectomy when he’s not ready for it and may actually want kids someday, I’d take the pill, and I know how badly it screws with my hormones. Shaming a man into getting a vasectomy is the same as shaming a woman to get any sort of contraceptive surgery. The last line of your comment did exactly this, and no one is obligated to physically alter their body for anyone else, no matter their gender.

[@RetributionRadio0289]

vry nice story !

[@hennigadient4265]

Actually now im even happier my husband got the vasectomy😳 it was soo sweet HE overt it ❤️ and it is just fair bc no it is not the women job to take birthcontrol. It need two to tango ;) it is always funny to me the drama men make around them taking the work. Bc they dont have a problem with women pumping our body full with hormones over years. the disrespect is just creazyyy

[@joy4themightydonutchainsaw620]

She lost me here 28:20 because 23:59. I know she said she isn’t looking for a new relationship but there is always a possibility of something happening and if he can’t get the vasectomy reversed he’s out of luck hypothetically if he wants more children with someone else. It’s definitely a way better option then getting the tubes tied but neither want to deal with these procedures. Seems like something they should’ve talked about before marriage, It’s kinda complicated because I think they should get divorced especially if the only big argument they had led to a separation but they are about to have 4 kids and every option they have to stop more children one or both denies it, super frustrating and messed up on his part with how he denied it. A lot of problems both sides and they need to figure out a compromise. Also no she’s not the asshole I just think this whole situation is stupid and her husband messed with her trauma which led to the ultimatum and I think at that point they should just go their separate ways and co-parent. Which leads me back to my first point if he wants to get remarried and or have more kids he can because I doubt this relationship will last. I’m very mixed on this because it’s very complicated all around and I don’t fully know all the ins and outs.

[@beatricewolfe8670]

NOT to be funny but i have never known a women to become pregnant so easily

[@UnauthorizedComedy]

Sadly, it happens

[@codm22712]

Is that og cod gameplay I see

[@TheMrgbms]

Story 3: nah she is 1000% YTA, she did so much study on her reproduction options but did none into his vasectomies drastically increases the chances of prostate cancer and prostate inflammation. And prostate cancer is the leading killer of men. She didn't do her research because she simply didn't care. Not to mention the fact she ripped the kids away from their father even when they voiced they want to see their father shows how selfish she is... and that's not mentioning she's nearly blackmailing him to get a vasectomy using the relationship and the children (it's clear that she will use the kids because she didn't even bring them back to him when they stated they missed their dad) I agree with the husband, her body her choice. But if she's so wanting to stop the chances of getting pregnant again since that is what she so scared of why don't they both get the snip... bet she'll back out.

[@fandomfan2800]

ewwww your very nasty

[@TheMrgbms]

@@fandomfan2800 you're* also I don't care about your opinion

[@nicknaylor9895]

An obnoxiously long pro choice sermon on reddit? Color me shocked.

[@gtc9966]

Last story is unbelievably poor fiction.

[@The_Nightsong]

Omg, Jack is horrible!! A vasectomy is reversible as well, it's a lot safer and easier than getting tubes tied. I feel so bad for OP...

[@existenceisrelative]

It's not always "safe and reversible". It _is_ still a surgery being forced onto him with some serious coercion. She's a sociopath.

[@thisisanaltacct]

Is she, though? She is ultimately giving him a choice, and the real meat of her issue is that he willingly re-traumatized her because he was mad, not that he won't get the vasectomy.

[@SomeOneCool0719]

Story 3: Op is deffinetlly in the wrong but that doesnt excuse the husband but shes not really being fair either shes basiclly saying he can either get the vasectomy or he can just not get to be in his kids lives which is not ok and is not fair at all but the husband was in the wrong for what he said but i still feel like its unfair that she just expects him to get the vasectomy or he just misses out on his kids childhood which is not ok

[@hypo7351]

Yeah, throughout the argument they had I was just thinking “Are condoms there illegal too or something?” Like, wearing and having what op has basically no chance if any of a pregnancy

[@AidaKittyBoy]

​@hypo7351 She's mentioned 3 failed condoms already. I don't blame her for not trusting them, even with a second birth control on top of it. I am on two forms myself and I _still_ occasionally get hit with that fear of miracle babies. Plus, if neither want kids anymore, surely the surgery isn't a deal breaker for him. He may be squeamish but 1.Vasectomies are cheaper, safer, less invasive (no cutting open abdominal muscles), and according to studies more effective than tubal ligation. 2. Tubal Ligation recovery can take 2-4 weeks to recover, which is a lot of time to be unable to move or bend down due to muscles recovering. Not to mention how it can affect a woman hormonally. Cramps, heavier periods, and menopause like symptoms are not surprising. Vasectomies take a week at most to heal and rarely if ever have side effects. 3. Good luck finding a doctor willing to do any sort of sterility treatment in the deep south on a woman. Even among doctors there is a deep stigma against sterilizing women. 5. The risk of ectopic pregnancy cannot be overstated. If an egg can be fertilized and attach to the fallopian tube and it isn't caught that can burst the tube and cause sepsis FAST. And in the deep south with anti abortion laws, some doctors will let the ectopic pregnancy grow to the point where the tube bursts to avoid any legal abortion issues.

[@hypo7351]

@@AidaKittyBoy Yeah, I very much get why she doesn’t trust them anymore. Though I may have misunderstood if she was on BC as well as using condoms or not. Still the safer option than without. Maybe the husband is scared about something happening to op and wanting to keep his unsnipped in case something does happen?

[@Zynt0xik]

​@hypo7351 according to the CDC and WHO Condoms have a failure rate of 18% if used correctly every time, vasectomy has a failure rate of 0.15%, getting tubes tied is 0.5%, so vasectomies are more reliable. The only argument that I can see for her getting her tubes tied is that she is more likely to have to get a c-section since she is having twins, so she might have to deal with the long recovery regardless and they can tie her tubes during the c-section. I get her frustration though, because going through pregnancy is a big deal, both medically and financially, and it is not unreasonable to ask the other person to do their part to prevent further pregnancies. If not divorce then I think it's fully reasonable to just go "OK, then I guess the good times are over. no more sex. It was fun while it lasted"

[@hypo7351]

@@Zynt0xik I did not know those percentages, neat. I get her frustration as well. Earlier I was just trying to come up with a way for it to very much reduce the chance of a pregnancy happening again, while there being a bit of a compromise. If she forces him to get a vasectomy, he may hold a grudge or start acting distant. He already showed he was very against it so making him do it will probably result in the marriage not being good for at least a little

[@KidofAk]

i hate it when they call their husband/wife "best friend"

[@calxtra5361]

the fil should have noticed it was the husband did all the work for the dinner.... vasectomy is a simple thing hes needs to grow up and get it done and its reversable down the road

[@existenceisrelative]

A surgery is never without risk, and to force a medical procedure onto him against his will is straight rapist behavior. She's a sociopath with some nice buzzwords to throw around.

[@owlcake]

Fertile Myrtle: Why can’t they just take her uterus out? She’s had 4 kids and 5 pregnancies. She honestly should just go for the C-section and ute scoop.

[@varishav271]

Because it's a major surgery that has way more risks than him getting snipped. Also as she stated it has a higher rate of failure and those failures have high risks to the woman's life.

[@ExtraterrestrialRabbit]

Getting a hysterectomy can have nasty side effects down the line, including an increased risk of dementia.

[@Fatblue246]

@@varishav271vasectomy has huge health implications for men that OP and you are entirely glossing over lol. the fact there’s no guarantee of sterility, that there 100% can be complications with vasectomy too, and that it DRASTICALLY increases the likelihood prostate cancer and swelling of the prostate which is one of the leading killers in men. If she was actually trying to be fair, she’d have recommended they both get it done as that genuinely would increase the likelihood they don’t get pregnant again. Him getting snipped doesn’t really change the position they were in when she was religiously taking birth control and using condoms. If you’re that fertile you’re going to need to use multiple methods. They’re both the assholes in this situation, it was handled incredibly poorly by both of them. Not saying she should get a hysterectomy, that’s crazy, but tubal ligation if he’s getting snipped seems more than fair.

[@varishav271]

@@Fatblue246 A vasectomy is way less of a health issue/risk than having a hysterotomy. The so called link between prostate cancer and getting a vasectomy is a case of correlation does not equal causation. "Why would people suggest that a vasectomy causes cancer? Although there’s plenty of false information in the medical world, most of it starts with some evidence. In the matter of vasectomy causing cancer, the mistake was misinterpreting correlation as causation. Huh? Let me explain. Correlation means that two outcomes are linked or associated with each other. For example, using name brand toothpaste is associated with Alzheimer’s disease. Does Colgate cause Alzheimer’s? Of course not. But, if you can afford name brand toothpaste, then you are more likely to have medical insurance and regularly go to the doctor. If you go to the doctor as your memory starts declining, they will likely diagnose you with Alzheimer’s. Do you know who isn’t being diagnosed with Alzheimer’s? Your crazy uncle who lives off the grid, doesn’t go to the doctor because “he ain’t sick” and also doesn’t brush his teeth at all. Yuck. This is very similar to the link between vasectomy and prostate cancer. In order to be diagnosed with prostate cancer you need to: --Go to the doctor and have a PSA blood test. --Get referred to a urologist if the PSA blood test is elevated. --Have a prostate biopsy diagnosing prostate cancer. Who’s most likely to go to a urologist for a prostate biopsy? The same guy who went to urologist 20-30 years earlier for a vasectomy. Correlation not causation."

[@varishav271]

"Vasectomy and prostate cancer in men. When it comes to men and prostate cancer, there is no evidence linking vasectomy to increased risk of prostate cancer or any other type of cancers in men. In a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, researchers examined 1.6 million men who had undergone vasectomies, and compared them to 1.3 million men who had not undergone vasectomy. They found no association between having a vasectomy and prostate cancer risk, or any other type of cancer risk. A study done by the Harvard Medical School followed over 6,000 men for 15 years and found that those who had undergone a vasectomy were actually less likely to get prostate cancer than men who hadn’t had one (Harvard Health Publications, 2000). The same conclusion was drawn from other studies as well (University of Iowa Hospitals & Clinics). To further the evidence, the World Health Organization (WHO), which found no association between vasectomy and prostate cancer. In fact, WHO states that they “we are unaware of any scientific evidence linking vasectomies to an increased risk of other types of cancers.”"

[@KidofAk]

i hate it when they call their husband/wife "best friend"

[@KidofAk]

i hate it when they call their husband/wife "best friend"

[@marcruth4531]

wow, you really do, don't ya? looks like four posts repeating this same point?

[@KidofAk]

i hate it when they call their husband/wife "best friend"