my i-land 2 ep. 8 opinions cus this show is going downhill

[@Felpss_SSRG]

HOW IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT HOW GOOD JUWON WAS IN PERFORMING 'IM THE BEST'

[@celieistrying]

yess she was my second favorite!! how she got the lowest on-site votes is beyond me.

[@jenchulichengg]

she did not get enough screen time this timee!!!!!! so furious for that!

[@its_Gad.5]

It's like she's fading episode after episode 😢

[@AUGHHHHHBBG]

Right she was so amazing.

[@youdonotknowwhoiamlol]

THANK YOU!!!

[@husnizarrah]

The koreans don't really like sujung and jeongeun. This situation is really bad for those 2

[@mariasol1545]

I understand sujung, but the fact that they dislike jungeun just bc of colorism is wild to me

[@shelfwarrior42]

Sujung Jungeun Yuju and Juwon should honestly just leave and form their own group😭

[@jada.177]

i agree with everything you said, it's becoming more obvious that the judges are more biased toward certain trainees.

[@Wonycoded]

HOW IS NAM YUJU REAL LIKE BRO THEY WERE EATING AND ALMOST CURSING HER GIRLIE DID NOT EVEN FLINCH LIKE DAMNN

[@CrayZy-jd9xu]

That's why I'm proud of yuju and sad for her since producers don't like her

[@GeorgeMannancheril]

Yes vote for Yuju guys.Its her third and last survival show❤❤.So please consider her and also Jeemin and Junguen❤❤

[@rlagkdud0410]

The producers literally set up sujung, yuju, jiyoon, and jungeun to fail like wtf. like couldn't they have made it a little less obvious?? those four barely ever get compliments and credit for their work and the jiyoon jungeun beef is stupid and I'm sick of it.

[@celieistrying]

im sick of jiyoon vs jungeun too! the nonsense continues into this weeks episode.

[@audriozz]

i like jeemin but the center part should’ve definitely gone to gyuri or sarang, they both would’ve fit the role better and would’ve had an easier time hitting the higher notes in the song

[@jenchulichengg]

but jeemin also did a good job. I honestly feel bad for sarang cause she always loses in grabbing any opportunity in part distribution.

[@P4tyY]

I completely agree with your point on sunjung , it’s a competition and they’re gonna get competitive. I would’ve done the same thing, but she still could’ve kept it to herself, it’s crazy how people are trying to paint her as the one who’s in the wrong.

[@minwonruuu2283]

Yuju's survival show experience really came in clutch when they ganged up on her LMAO Also, I find it so frustrating the way they're too nitpicky towards some of the contestants all while babying the others. It's totally fine to expect more out of the more experienced girls, but they're just going too far with it - they act like they want some ten years worth of experience out of Jeemin, Sujung and Yuju, and then they turn around and pat certain girls on the back for doing shit they've already done countless times before, and then they just straight up ignore Gyuri and Juwon for doing better than they've ever had and some. My expectations were already in hell, but I wasn't familiar with your game, MNET, my bad.

[@jaffarhaidary424]

THANK YOU, like i get sujung shouldnt have said what she said but she’s not wrong for wanting to do better? and gyuri did so good she’s too underrated by so many people, she did amazing with the small amount of lines she had

[@jaffarhaidary424]

@@mariasol1545 i get that, but she’s a decent singer and you don’t need to be a professional to know everything about it, she was talking about what mai was doing even if she couldnt pull her vocal off perfectly

[@IHBEU]

i wouldve sheet in my pants and crying if i were Nam Yuju 😢 i felt so bad for her, and them making her mic volume so low 😭😭

[@justryone8594]

my problem is that obviously yuju is top 4 rn and they’re trying to prove that koko can rap so they can push yuju out and make space for saebi… and the whole mic thing pisses me off sm…, mnets bias is crazy they’re not even trying to hide it anymore

[@thvminee]

they are rlly pushing this koko main rapper agenda to push yuju out tf

[@zaydeshae6068]

This i literally said this as well they wanted to push her votes down because she’s 4th rn and she probably dropped because of the stupid editing but I’ve seen a lot of people saying they’ve been voting for her and protecting her

[@BeomgyusSandhanitizer]

I love Saebi so much but yeah it's true JUSTICE FOR NAM YUJU PLEASE!!

[@Lemon-hu1qj]

I honestly think a lot of the producer's feedback gets edited out, a lot of time's there are even flashbacks to instances when they are helping the girl's that aren't shown in any other moment. I don't think it's fair to blame them on it, but MNET for choosing what feedback is streamed. (I think it'd be a good idea for them to post unedited clips of the feedback's on their youtube instead of cut portions of the show, it'll probably get them views too)

[@celieistrying]

yeah i agree! but at the end of the performance the pinpoint one person and they're like "oh she did so good!" and its usually the same girls. and i just think sometimes there were others who did better.

[@jenchulichengg]

i truly agree on that and i think mnet has been doing this from produce 101 itself. They never really show how the trainers train except of criticism and popular trainees part.

[@BTSENGENEXGIZNA]

They will never do that lol

[@marckandreylarang6834]

with bella choi; i think ppl in mnet didnt vote for her because she doesnt have the typical korean beauty, also her sister had a scandal of some sort idk what .it was pretty clear that they were pretty biased(its not like theres any live votes that arent biased tho) her having the 2nd lowest vote still shocks me.

[@sanyaa4278]

Hopefully the international votes carry her cus I've been voting for her non-stop

[@gelandponte2360]

The Jiyoon and Jungeun beef was kinda lame to be honest looks like any other beef from any survival show but mnet was like "we need this beef to be longer"

[@thvminee]

poor yuju the two mentors were literally about to eat her up and make her give up oh god just to give main dancer part to kook but koko is awfully bad at rap and in the stage yuju’s mic had some problems so we couldn’t hear her properly but the production team didn’t care enough to check poor yuju

[@Kiwipoi]

I agree with with Jungeun thing...they didn't even care about how bad koko rapping was, they don't see the big picture I guess, if koko rap that she would have been look dump bcuz her pronunciation is very off, I think they really wanna push yuju and prove that koko can rap😢 poor yuju

[@ananyaagr11]

Yess I also agree 💯 koko is so mid in the performance and they just hype her for everything which she doesn't deserve at all 😢

[@plipplop5747]

I don't think Koko would've sounded "dumb", if you look at the improvement in her delivery for the small rap part saebi gave her. She had a hard time at first too and look how she ate the performance?? Also the position is main dancer, not rapper soo.. Plus the producers don't wanna push Yuju, objectively speaking Yuju just couldn't deliver what the judges wanted from her, and i totally see why. I think she needs to work hard on not performing the same way everytime, she just does the same facial expressions in every performance. I do think she would've done better than Yui in Whistle for the rap and it was unfair then that she didn't get to show what she had then BUT in this one performance she really was outshined by Koko, even when koko got such a small part.

[@Kiwipoi]

@@plipplop5747 yes exactly that's the reason why Koko ate that short part cus it was SHORT PART and the pronunciation for her is bearable unlike suju's part which is harder to pronounce and a bit long rap even koko had hard time in that short part practicing...and actually yuju's tone is better cuz she's used to it, but yuju really waste that opportunity tho but it could be worse if koko did it but it's not hate towards koko in fact she's one of my biases along with Jungeun and Sarang that's is why I don't want her to look stupid and risk cuz people rn are being so critic in terms of vocal they might say she can only dance and I don't want that... But for the sake of the MAIN DANCER position it didn't make sense cuz it bearly shows how a Main dancer like except for the solo dance part but it's more like a Main Rapper part

[@selvlgvcr]

I think yall don't understand. She was fluent in Korean but not English. So that's why she did bad. Yall need to sit down

[@shelfwarrior42]

This is the most valid opinion I’ve seen on this episode😭

[@Choynayou]

4:25 The on-sight voters/people who attended were mainly Knetz & for some reason Knetz dont line Jeungeun. Lots are saying its mainly because of her visuals & her actual skin which is tan. I think her visuals are fine 🤷‍♂️, but Knetz are just so hard on visuals, never look at talent, and then proceed to criticize idols for having horrible performances. Its just disgusting. 3:38 I actually agree on this one. Gyuri did so well! Her SP was so fitting and consistent through out the performance. But Fuko and Jeemin also performed great. I would place Fuko or Jeemin at first, just because they had more line which may be confusing for someone. But it was just hard to rank Gyuri high with little of lines. She still did great though!

[@hannahjt4509]

So agree with your opinion, i also thought it's either Jiyoon or jungeun after episode 8

[@alinsofan501]

they reconcile in ep 9 and 10.

[@3ridgee]

@@alinsofan501 oh yea i think its bc they will be together alone in the second test

[@selvlgvcr]

I hope you guys know it's ep 8 not 9...

[@D7.0000]

yuju has such a strong heart and character i personally would NOT have survived two SWF women all up in my face criticizing me

[@ishidaabc]

It's shameful if the judges are more biased toward certain trainees. Jeongeun has the lowest point 145. It was ridiculous that she got the low point and could not debut.

[@annatroncoso7085]

I agree with you on everything 100%, I wish more ppl could see that

[@zeynebalayusuf]

OMG DID U READ MY MIND OR SOMETHING THANK U FOR SAYING EVERYTHING I WANTED TO SAYY thank god theres honset people other there and im heavy on koko her rap was awful why do people hype her up so much??? And yuju has undoubtedly the best mental strength in the show. FOR GOODNESS SAKE CAN THESE JUDGES STOP BEING SO BAISEDDDD . IM SO OVER THIS abt the sujung thing i understand that its part 2 but she should also be a bit more mature and think how some thins can affect her career or image i hope her all the best

[@selvlgvcr]

It's sad how yuju and jungeun are not going to debut. It's half international and half Korean. And they aren't popular in Korean like jiyoon, or koko is. But jiyoon and koko are not bad. They are really good especially jiyoon. But they are not popular and most likely fuko or Sarang are going to replace them

[@zeynebalayusuf]

@@selvlgvcr I feel bad also that real talent and skill isn't going to be chosen over popularity Jiyoon deserves her popularity and hype but I can't say the same abt koko ( no offence) #yuju #jungeun deservesbetter

[@3ridgee]

i think jiyoon, gyuri, jungeun should definitely be in the debut

[@apples1452]

Like can they stop!? WHERE is the Sujung, Yuju, Junguen, Juwon and Gyuri praise? Like l love Jiyoon and we all know she is a producer pick and in everyone's lineup and will obviously debut but like she is praised for like the smallest thing while the others who have BEEN consistently doing well never get praised and the judges are being too strict on them. Why are they different criteria of judging for different girls? Honestly, they could at least try pretend they aren't biased to some girls once in a while.

[@INmendigo]

my opinions - Saebi dont have THE STAR QUALITY who all talk about, for me she is a bit forced in her expressions (mnet favorite) - Mai is the worst trainee in top 12, but probabily she gonna debut (pretty face privilege) - If sarang do a bad performance is okay, but girls like Sujung doing your best is not ok

[@celieistrying]

i 100% agree that mai is the least talented trainee in the top 12

[@ariannam3727]

I love Mai but I agree she should have been iground multiple times. I honestly think that would have helped her to improve. She’s hard working so I could see her improving a lot.

[@jenchulichengg]

It has already been said by the trainers that yeeun(eliminated member) and mai have same level of skills. Its her hard work and leadership that still holds her but looking at her scores this time she might also not debut this time. On counter i think sujung has alot of pride if he is complimented and lacks composure compared to sarang. Rather Sarang is shown much humble and kind compared to her. Its their own personality that pushes them towards their edge. Also i am scared for both girls if they will reach finals or not.

[@INmendigo]

@@jenchulichengg Sarang is a good girl, but im talking about la vie en rose peformance, before this sarang did really good

[@luvforevaa123]

They should switch mai with yui fs

[@violet6507]

THE BACKLASH for not debuting Jungeun will HARSHER than ILLIT and Jiwoo mess at least in RUNext there are many trainee who can sing well, but ILAND 2 IS SO LACKING IN OPTION, even more than Produce 48 & 101

[@apples1452]

I would also not help someone who lm obviously better than yet ranked lower than them. Yes it's selfish but we are getting graded individually even if we are working as a team. Would l have said it to as many people as Sujung. No. However people are calling her a snake as if they have never talked about someone behind their back before. I do think she should kept it to herself because it will and has ruined her image but she was NOT mocking Mai or bulling her.

[@splendore.ngrandeur3599]

Bcos its a survival show and they wanted to debut 😅. People dont like to hear the truth they like pretence thats a fact and its sad. The judges wanted to push the girls to show a diff side of themselves. And yes!!!! Yuju held it 2geda she's strong the attack was real.

[@leinz2545]

whats eyerolling is that the main dancer for lovesick girls also got the rap part which is what yuju is obviously eyeing for, unfortunately MNET trapped both koko and yuju by combining both main dancer and rap part because they want koko to be their main rapper for the debut group

[@davidjones7493]

Celie episode 9 is making me crazy Jungeun all of a sudden is not wanted

[@HauMun_1lovetacos]

Jiyoon eating every preference ❤

[@endzzzze]

Sujung’s attitude was so bad. What is her intention? She knew the mistake Mai made, she didn’t want to tell her. But that’s reasonable cause it’s an individual battle but why tell the whole people except the girl who did the mistake when you can just keep those to yourself?

[@sanyaa4278]

Honestly multiple were sitting there, we don't know if they were saying anything bad abt ppl from their group either. We only see what mnet wants us to see but I do agree she would've kept it to herself

[@Mafuzzyu]

They SO biased between Saebi and Sarang in the ep

[@badaboem7057]

The producers made me hate sarang and mai please dont praise them if they make mistakes every episode and also they absolutely dont deserve to be in top 6

[@nicolev990]

I disagree with the Koko part, I mean she was struggling with pronunciation, but that’s something that she’s able to fix with practice. I mean she also struggles with her Korean pronunciation but has never once gotten a complaint about her pronunciation sounding off during an actual performance. When Saebi gave her the smaller rap part, she had less time to practice than the others, but her English pronunciation was great during the performance. On the other hand, personally I think Yuju is weaker when it comes to performance compared to, well, everyone in the Lovesick Girls group. I mean her rapping is great, but dance/expressions-wise I’d give the edge to the other 3 girls, and giving her the main dancer role only made that gap in skill more obvious. It’s not a gap that she could’ve overcome in the time the had to practice unlike Koko and her pronunciation.

[@zaydeshae6068]

Thats false , have you watched her fancam compared to the others ? Her stage presence/expressions were top notch

[@nicolev990]

@@zaydeshae6068 I watched all the fancams twice and imo hers was the least impactful of the 4, but feel free to disagree, that’s just my opinion

[@zaydeshae6068]

@@nicolev990 that’s your opinion and that’s okay I respect it

[@KenAlbertson]

Jungeun, Jiyoo and Yuju are prima donnas. I hope they do not make the group. The ability to get along and live together trumps superior skills.

[@REMDREAMS]

Hey ! I'm going to share my opinions on this video but this is not criticism or anything ! Just my own opinions: I agree with everything you said here for the most part. One note on the Sujung thing though. Personally, I would like to help somebody even if it's a survival show. I understand it's mainly on personal belief though ! Anyway, yeah ! I just wanted to share my opinion. Have a blessed life !

[@Chaereallywon_1]

Go participate in a survival show and then we'll see how willing you'd be to help someone that you're obviously more talented then, yet they're ranked higher than you due to pretty privilege and favouritism.

[@Reesuns.]

I agree! I am seriously annoyed by the onsite votes.....it wasn't a performance evaluation it was simply a popularity contest. Here's how the real ranks should be: I Am The Best: 1. Jiyoon 2. Juwon 3. Sujung 4. Mai La Vie Rose: 1. Gyuri 2. Fuko 3. Jeemin 4. Sujung Lovesick Girls: 1. Jungeun 2. Koko 3. Saebi 4. Yuju -------------------------------------------------------------- My Debut Group: 1. Jiyoon 2. Jungeun 3. Fuko 4. Koko 5. Juwon 6. Saebi

[@adventuresofassasin224]

Sujung attitude wasnt edited jungeun was edited, First of all Sujung should of helped a team member if they are struggling its not only individual battle but its also a team battle like she is so selfish , look at jiyoon she knows its individual but still helped mai bc its a team battle,also sujung is like copying 2ne1 not mai dude even the judges said that sujung needs to stop it, and junguen got edited since saebi said shes struggling to be a leader and she needs help so jungeun helped her and mnet evil edit jungeun so basically thats it

[@lowrah_]

Lol I agree with the producers😂😂😂

[@leaadorna5682]

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[@thvminee]

suju is obviously better than Mai (Mai is literally last of the 12 trainees let’s not lie) and mai being so much higher than her in ranks why would she help her and before jiyoon helped her she couldn’t sing at all

[@apples1452]

I would also not help someone who lm obviously better than yet ranked lower than them. Yes it's selfish but we are getting graded individually even if we are working as a team. Would l have said it to as many people as Sujung. No. However people are calling her a snake as if they have never talked about someone behind their back before. I do think she should kept it to herself because it will and has ruined her image but she was NOT mocking Mai or bulling her.

[@jenchulichengg]

WHY WOULD JIYOON NOT FEEL BETRAYED?! I get that mnet's editing is biased and changes the side from episodes. But if you do not get why jiyoon felt betrayed then i really do not know what to say. If you see EP 1 - 2 you can see jiyoon really close with jeungeun and they also performed Drama together. But after she was removed as main vocalist in fls she started to lose confidence. And even though jeungeun was criticized for not being able to balance as a center she gave herself a main vocalist and gave jiyoon the leftover she as a friend did not support jiyoon. Now again its her will to not support but they were really good friends and that is why jiyoon does not want to befriend jeungeun again. She is working with her and she has never atleast in my opinion tried to degrade jeungeun. If your friend leaves you at your lowest is it not obvious that you will feel betrayed. And if you see the girls are showing no drama but its ments editing trying to grab viewers using them. Id say everyone i right in their own way but i really unerstand why jiyoon felt betrayed. I have no problem with jeungeun but girl does have a serious problem. she has to win all the time and if she loses she cannot bear that. If you see all the battles jeungeun has lost or got criticized for she is never humble about. Like yes you dont have to be but i am just pointing that out cause even in evil editing some things are shown correctly. Also in vocal unit battle Jeungeun did not only not face jiyoon but also ignored minsol who did trired to compliment her.

[@ananyaagr11]

That is a team performance bro what do you want jungeun to do. Jiyoon gets the main vocalist position and she ruined it so please accept that fact first.

[@jenchulichengg]

@@ananyaagr11 yes i do agree with that but in the end when she was feeling really low because of that and when she realized no one voted for her even the one who you felt the most close to then do you think she would not feel betrayed? imagine you were in that position? remember they are just 16-19 year old.

[@L5V2R]

@@jenchulichengg but why is she taking that out on only jungeun? i get she was the leader, but jeemin and mai were also in the drama performance and didnt vote for her. does it not seem a little biased her indifference towards jungeun? and for the center position in fls, jungeun stated early on that she thought juwon fit center so it really shouldnt come as a surprise that she eventually ended up giving that position to juwon instead

[@annx.21]

then jiyoon is jus being petty imo cause if she debuts and doesnt get a part she wants is it then okay for her to feel betrayed in some way also, u say it like its a re occurring thing and u not being voted shouldnt make u fell betrayed cause she shouldnt be relying on jeungeun to vote her

[@jenchulichengg]

@@annx.21 we are talking about the betrayal in FRIENDSHIP. The person she gave the most importance did not feel same about her. Don't you think you will feel betrayed? We don't really prefer one sided relationships. Again she felt betrayed as a friends and i do not see why yall are yapping bad about her. Is it not her choice? Then why does not Jeungeun not approach her. Just because Jeungeun never talks about this relation does not mean its only jiyoon that is against her. Jeungeun never really tried to correct that as well. Jiyoon felt betrayed, What did jeungeun feel? If so then why does not she also take any action take an approach to make things right? Dont fall for evil editing! Again i am not against jeungeun i am just justifying how i felt about the situation.

[@lehua5143]

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