My issues with the AmFlow PL Carbon Pro.

[@martinhayes5087]

appareciate your honesty man. refreshng to have somebodys opinion who can ride properly and not just read off the spec sheet!

[@TheBikeStudio]

Anyone interested in spec sheet readers I’m here for ya 👊

[@OldBoyOnTrail]

great review! Would be great the hear more about why you like the Bike more compared to other ebikes. Currently I am struggle between AMFlow, Santa Cruz Bullit or Vala….

[@Andrew-i7s]

Be nice if they made one with an alloy frame

[@grahamhodgson2014]

I know the trails you’re riding on in this vid. Dude you’re absolutely ripping them! 😊

[@matthewproud7246]

Thanks for this . Some good tips re upgrades. Mine arrives next week and will ride as stock a while - the only thing I can see myself changing in the immediate future is likely the stem from everything I’ve heard about it!!

[@finroddd]

Thank you very much for the review, Will! Seems to me that the bike is very well spec-ed right from the start. The only thing that probably really needed replacement is the stem. All the rest is like a personal preference of yours.

[@robbiefrith883]

This is a really good review dude!

[@alexanderwald2046]

swapping Maguras for Codes? really?

[@dallasdrew2390]

That's what I was thinking 😂😂

[@Marinmtb415]

I was like wtf? 😂

[@lukasvrana6388]

If you have them longer, you can tweak them. For a new user its the experience he described. I have MT7s on my DH, and used them as well on my older bike.

[@Ruffest]

Magura are wank. Foot in the tyres is better

[@DandyHippo]

My maguras broke, codes never do. Also magura levers are fkn toys

[@stefindley6582]

Looking good Will, thanks for the update. How are you finding the battery efficiency? I'd be tempted to change the amflow decals to silver too

[@BentonL]

14:00 I think that rattle is the battery. You will eventually see some marks and you can figure out how to dampen it. I used double sided tape but left one side not peeled. Its the right squishiness to keep mine from rattling. Mine is a different type of battery but it sounds the same as yours. Worth looking into. You have 3 months of use so you should see something.

[@samw_mtb]

bike goes fast with will attached. confirmed witness

[@davidcauson7008]

If you leave the right hand remote on it means you have a spare battery for your left hand remote if it dies mid ride.

[@09mantlek]

BIG BRAIN

[@davemcbeard]

I've been running Argotal's front and rear for 12 months now and honestly, they are bloody amazing. In the UK there's only about 4 days of the year when you feel like you need something designed for dryer conditions. I've recommended them to several mates and when they've tried them, they've been blown away.

[@S-T-MTB]

I run argotal's on the front and not getting on with them. What pressures are you using?

[@davemcbeard]

@@S-T-MTB I run a 29" 2.6 Enduro compound, usually between 17-18 psi (when I can be bothered to check)

[@Coolcmsc]

What great content about this bike your putting out, thanks 🎉 You don’t like the rattling and noises and fair enough! Personally, I don’t give a thing. But I can see your next upgrade is going to be a motor-gearbox, high pivot and belt - but that’s much more expensive (and quiet😂). PS: Shigura with Galfer pads would have been better and cheaper and no stuck pistons, just saying….😉

[@shaneycarter8803]

Hey Will, definitely on the same page here pal. I swapped out the brakes too as I couldn't get on with the Magura's.. Fitted the same Code stealth ultimate and HS2 Rotors. Also got the same Forx cranks through Steve out in New Zealand, but went with black as mine is the silver base model, with Silver Hope pedals. However I swapped out the chainring for a Hope in silver, probably won't last as long as a steel one but will go with the XX T type one when it's eventually released. I'm running the XX T type transmission. AXS Reverb 170 dropper. Swapped out the stem also as it whilst is a nice piece of machining it wasn't strong enough. Went with a silver Hope gravity stem and One Up carbon bars. Fan of Ergon GE1 grips and SM Pro saddle. Upgraded the forks with Grip 2 damper and bleed valves. Finally finished off with Zipp 3zero Moto 2 carbon wheelset with Magic Mary and Big Betty. I had all these parts already, hence my choice of the Base PL model. Wisely I fitted an invis kit when I had it all stripped down. Absolute love it, it climbs like nothing else and tracks brilliantly with plenty of pop. I can't feel any frame flex that's been mentioned and I've pushed it pretty hard. Thankfully my motor seems quite too. Hopefully it will stay this way.🙏 Keep up the great content and stay safe out there pal when pushing it 👍

[@LastAphelion]

I can't get my code ultimates to feel good any tips? I want them to start feathering then bite hard immediately, but it feels like I have to death grip them till it hurts my hands, not sure if I need to rebleed or start fiddling with the settings

[@shaneycarter8803]

@LastAphelion definitely not right for Codes this. Make sure you bleed correctly. If it has the bleeding edge fitting at the caliper of, open 1 full turn. Connect the syringe to the lever and make sure that the lever is practically adjusted all the way out from the bars. Also adjust the contact knob practically out too away from the arrow. Push fluid all the way through, then lock off the edge and then pull back on the syringe to remove any air bubbles. Pressure up again and repeat until there are no more bubbles. Whilst operating the brake. I always push a bit more fluid in under a bit of pressure then remove and fit the bleed nipple. Be prepared for a bit of fluid to escape whilst doing this. Oh and it's always best to remove the air trapped in the fluid first by locking off the hose on the syringe and pulling back on the plunger, do this a number if times as this will work out the air that has inggressed into the fluid. You'll be surprised how much will work it's way out. Remove all the air. When done pump the brakes a few times and adjust the lever to desired reach. Perfectly working and powerful Code brakes. Enjoy 👌👍

[@DavidPeake1]

I’d replace the Forx crank-it’s prone to snapping. I’ve seen multiple cases, even on small jumps or sprints, and it’s only a matter of time before someone gets seriously hurt.

[@anthonynazzal1958]

Others who reviewed the bike say the frame is pretty flexy, worse so even than the older carbon Orbea rise. What’s your take on that topic ? Since you ride it really hard, even though you’re not a big guy, I would assume you would notice it if it were an issue. Just curious because some say flexy others say not so

[@dave_waudby]

The way you ride that bike 💪no wonder it rattles 😀 no rattle from mine but guess i need to try harder 🤣 Great vid, straight talking honest review. Love the stem btw.

[@Islamwarner]

What size wheel plz

[@nigelrandtoul8646]

Hi Will, fellow headset routing hater, could I ask, as it's so light, how you find pedalling the amflow over the 15mph limit? I know it was easy to derestrict before the update locked the region selection, so now you have to use a vpn set to New Zealand then pair with the bike, as they don't have any restrictions over there, which I wasn't aware of. I appreciate your unbiased views too and your fod vid was great. All the best

[@danielcobb8886]

20 mph (32 kph) in NZ.

[@RobHill00]

I got the silver one and changed everything on it bar the shock, still trying to find a decent coil option but might upgrade to the factory float X instead!? You get a different stem on the 6k one, changed it out for a Hope one anyway! I had most of the parts already and planned to upgrade it, I didn’t just buy the 6K one then spent a fortune on parts!🤑 Might look at some E13 wheels with the new side kick hubs this year!?🤔 not in any rush, the wheels seem ok. Tyres will probably be the next thing to change the back tyre isn’t the best but I’ll run them until they wear out or puncture then stick some DH/Enduro casing ones on.

[@lefthorse1]

I have the same problem with Race Face turbine stem

[@S-T-MTB]

Jelley's Hollow @Winterfold at the start of the vid being ridden properly!

[@abshassan]

A motor rattle is normal for most e-bikes, it is just the metal gears inside. Most motors have a small amount of tolerance between the gears and they rattle. However, I believe e-bike motor manufacturers are improving and making the tolerances tighter.

[@MrSupermugen]

What? Lol. Most of the motors are the clutch assembly rattling. If you have gear noise... there's something seriously wrong.

[@primemtb]

Good early review from a more serious rider. Would like to see your 1 Year review.

[@roystonjames7794]

Mine was delivered to the bike shop today, cant wait. was that mr Wilkins i saw in you video?

[@panhandlemtb4308]

Cool video and awesome riding shots! Im in the states so I cant get my hands on one of these bikes 😢. Maybe its better and hopefully amflow drops other bikes in another year. Or other brands use the dji motor. That rattle would drive me nutty!

[@willgreenfield]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! Honestly i think the power of the motor and the tech in the bike would make u forget about the rattle... it's a compromise for sure but the positives far outweigh the negatives in my opinion! It's defo gonna be sick to see what bikes come out in the future with this motor tho, exciting times 😎

[@Petr388]

I own the original highest spec Orbea Rise for 3 years now and Shimano EP800 is notoriuos for its rattle. I like quiet bikes but man buyiing this superlight beast in 2021 it totally made me to forget, that it rattled. I still absolutelly love my ebike and only one i would consider to replace it some time in the future is Amflow. But definitelly not yet.

[@projekt95]

I have always the exact opposite with the magura breaks. They are dead silent until I don't break, then the rotor starts to make absolutely annoying high-pitch noises created by the rotor when it starts to vibrate by tiny micro-rubbs against the break pads...

[@mtb_3930]

Will can you please try it as a mullet? My current bike is a mullet and i love the feel of mullets. Thanks man

[@C0okieMonstR]

Thanks for the honest opinion, it will help me in a possible purchase of the silver version and upgrade the components. As for the tires, if you haven't tried yet, ride the new Schwalbe Radial Albert or Magic Mary, they have really great grip. If you have such a possibility I have one question - can you write what is the Fox ID tune code of the Float X rear shock on this bike?

[@urbanbwax]

Great video as always, do you mind asking about sizing (bike size, your height, inseam etc.). It seems it has a high seat tube at least on paper so may be if between sizes one should go down a size or what is your take on this?

[@Ruffest]

Ive not got any rattle on mine. You sure its the motor? Has rob put beads in your handlebar 😂

[@boldsboldsbolds]

watching you for so long now. Ever thought about getting a surron? I just got one and its so fun. Greetings from Germany

[@Amflow-o1g]

Hi Will, thank you for your sharing, we noticed that you mentioned the unusual noises while riding, we are very concerned about it, and you also mentioned that you have contacted us regarding this matter, may we ask what kind of channel(email, online chat or phone ) you contacted us? So we can help you further.

[@JamesRobertMTB]

The motor is the main selling point!

[@willgreenfield]

Yuppp Motor is elite! But can't forget the screen, wireless controllers, fast charging etc all tht stuff is what puts DJI at the top atm

[@djm8027]

Waiting for it to appear in some other builds as the Amflow is too similar to the current ride to spend the money on, more DH capable which would be heavier but probably no heavier than other similar builds.

[@neilz3219]

The big hexagon hole in those cranks worry me, it's got built in stress risers, a round hole would be less of a worry, I wouldn't do too many big jumps, you might get away with it though being fairly light.

[@MTBGeordieDownSouth]

I'm 95kgs and aggressive with my bike on Rockgardens, Roots, Drops, no i don't do 65ft gap jumps or Brendog style Freeride but my Forx Cranks have been fine with over a year of use now.

[@Antoni-cm6wj]

Hi will sick bike you’re got, I’ve got a pair of SRAM code RSC and there a good brake. I saw you still got the magura disk i think you should switch to the sram hs2 rotors a set is only around 100£ and there’s a huge difference. I went from my stock hs1 rotors on my YT Jefsy and it’s a night and day difference in braking power, there’s zero fade and grate bite. Thought i would just let you know

[@downhill7271]

can u derestrict the bike by setting location to new zealand? does that actually work?

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

Hopefully we'll see it in the US sooner than later.

[@pjewk]

That stem wtf…. Dream bike anyway. Cleareance on the rear tyre? 2.5”?

[@vashon100]

Can you link or describe exactly which Kryptotal rear that is, I see a whole bunch of versions.

[@Theolegit57]

Put the right controller on pair it with a Dji osmo pro 5 makes camera control a breeze

[@JasonChambersPhoto]

Blimey that’s a great little tech tip and reason to buy the bike. DJI are super clever with their gadgets. This e bike tech is going crazy. Great video Will. 😉

[@rog86]

How wide are your bars Will?

[@motoboggle7525]

Nice one William

[@davidcauson7008]

Knock block was only on the pre production bikes. My medium hasn't got one.

[@checcotonetti7289]

Hi David, I ordered an M size, I’m 169 cm. tall; how tall are u ?

[@davidcauson7008]

@checcotonetti7289 I'm 175 cm.

[@MYMOUNTAIN_122]

Love the bike , but looking at in the shop and cant help but think alot of the kit that DJI have made just looks cheap and for the money at least here is Aus 13k, id rather have known braded kit and not have to go out and spend an amount of cash on making it hard rideable, think I'll wait for a 3rd emtb once the DJI drive units make their way into a braded bike, but overall its super impressive.

[@Andy-co6pn]

I think Amflow components were designed to get the bike under a predetermined weight limit . Chuck em in the bin and fit sturdier units

[@AdamDavies-s6v]

Are you selling your mt7 brakes ?

[@mattie_world]

so sick making me want one icl

[@Ghost12561]

Dont do it.. you are going to put on more beer belly for sure 😂

[@scott5731]

Mine doesn't have a knock block Motor does rattle, but it's not too bad Frame flex is a problem. I'm 108kg

[@Deno469dp]

Is the rear tire a 2,6x27 or 2,6x29? Thanks a lot

[@sharpy182]

Is that sram guide carbon levers on your mavens?

[@leavemealoam]

hope e4/v4 exact same squeaking and squealing when braking. You can hear it in any video with a rider riding hope brakes.

[@bestofreddit-n3q]

luv the vid rescpe

[@willgreenfield]

@@bestofreddit-n3q thanks!

[@samw_mtb]

yeeees the dood

[@ginger_monkeey]

Original stem looks like it has been machined to death. 😮 Can see some lawsuits in DJI's future. 🔮

[@bermroller]

They should recall that stem and refund everyone that bought an Amflow an amount equal to the cost of a high end replacement stem. That stock stem is flawed and dangerous.

[@mtbtrailshredders]

Great video really good 👍 it’s deffo the e-bike I would go for atm

[@davidcauson7008]

That rattle isn't right mines dead silent even on the roughest terrain.

[@davidcauson7008]

9 grand bike and you didn't put a £100 invisi kit on it!

[@50whatnomadtravelnursemtb5]

It’s more personalizing your own bike, wouldn’t really say “upgraded “

[@erichbachman7363]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWfGl2Curbmimck Stem situation is bad, but luckily a fixable and cheap opt. Maybe carbon paste would add enough friction?

[@GiveItaGo]

On a 10K bike, you shouldn't have to change stuff like brakes or stem clamp. Thats just poor and stuff like this is why i haven't jumped in and got one yet......Ive also seen videos where water gets in around the touch screen as there is no rubber seal it just sits flush in the frame? See how these bikes fair after a year or so before I spend this kinda money on an EMTB....

[@Andy-co6pn]

Agreed to many parts need changing on a 9k bike. Might as well have gone for the base model and got the suspension units upgraded and a custom tune

[@demortorman]

Maguras are nightmare to setup. Expensive and overcomplicated. Not good brakes. Once you get used to sram code modulation there is no way back.

[@POBMTB]

That rattles awful .. sounds like a shimano .. something to do with the clutch .. it absolutely boiled my piss lol not for me .. glad i watched this as i was looking at buying one .. will probs keep my kenevo

[@ryanokeefe12]

You could find someone that has rattle with any motor manufacturer out there. Making a decision based on one video, especially considering it's a pre-production unit isn't the wisest way to make a decision. It's worth noting that I don't own one of these bikes. Not trying to defend any brand. Just noting the flawed logic. I searched 'rattle' on the page and the vast majority of users say they have no rattle.

[@dirtyoffroader2093]

It sucks when you pay all that money for something but you still have to pay out more on upgrades.. that it really shouldnt need. Mtb manufacturers are pulling our pants down. 😔

[@glen3509]

One, it's not Titanium 😱😁

[@ignaciosevil1944]

Ghhahahahhahahahaha Those guys that didnt hear it where hearing to music It rattles like a MF right?

[@alissoncapelin6528]

Bro call swapping maguras for codes an "upgrade" lmao 😂

[@chickenclips]

code stealths - ewww brother. Codes suck ass imo

[@r3volt97]

6k ripoff

[@romanrubaj2109]

Man, this is good review. Sub gone to you, cheers.

[@Andy-co6pn]

I'd have tried a pad swap first . Then every other brand of brake before those Avids

[@AdamDavies-s6v]

Are you selling your mt7 brakes ?