My K-pop Opinions that will get you HEATED, But they MUST be said!

[@Rabiana.]

Great video. I agree with most of your points and i wanted to add mine. Kpop stans love to talk about how idols should not be forced to under go plastic surgery but thay are also the first people to be making fun of an idol's face if they are not conventionally attractive.RM literally released two of the best MVs of the year and the only conversations I saw people were having about it was about him being "ugly" ( which he definitely isn't )

[@ajlee2168]

THIS! ik some say it jokingly but those people are literally just exposing themselves for being visual stans, only caring about those picture perfect aesthetics. and im afraid a huge chunk of the kpop community is only here, or fans of anyone, for aesthetics only. if they stopped looking cute, stans would stop hyping them up.

[@minstapee]

REAL! and they are always the first to talk about they prefer talent over visual. NAMJOON IS LITERALLY RIGHT THERE!! BOTH VISUAL AND TALENT

[@rainy.bangtan]

fr namjoon dropped one of the greatest albums of the year and a buttload of amazing mvs yet the only thing people had to say was that he didnt look "good". and then these same people go off and say that they "stan talent". like these people gotta stop lying

[@Apersonjustlikeyou]

@@Rabiana. Tell me about it🙄 The hipocricy is getting old🚮

[@Sherluck93]

You just run in the wrong circles. RM is gorgeous, RPWP is a masterpiece, and many peopls acknowledge that. There will always be haters, doesn't mean we need to spend too much time with them. Just sounds to me like you're giving them too much space. 💜

[@Isieisbusy]

The fact most of the hate towards jimin (including misgenderation) mostly comes from gay men. That one tweet about gay kpop twt hating jimin Because he's pretty, secure in his identity, plump lips and have a loving father will always be proven right.

[@JungmiKoru]

Fr. They do hate jimin cause he has everything they don't and even some of BTS straight fanboys are jimin biased. Our jimin has done nothing wrong to anyone but still haters are gonna hate, players gonna play.

[@priyajimin-co1kr]

@@JungmiKoru lol i found you again

[@BELIEVER78989]

They are just jealous that Jiminie is dominating the world and has everything from talent to looks to a supportive family and friends, so proud of Jimin❤❤

[@kanika4415]

Idk if this is relevant or not but the lsf hate train is crazy and I'm not even a fearnot. Ppl are just not ready to take accountability of their actions and that their words actually hurt idols. These same ppl will then go and trend hashtags on twt when any idol will do something to themselves.

[@narkogrunt7863]

It is Lesserafim own fault for most of the hate they got. If they can’t sing they should have not become singers in the first place. Singers are supposed to sing and not scream on stage.

[@iluvkbeauty2]

Lesserafim knows how to sing ... 💀 hybe just doesn't make songs that fit there vocal range.

[@kanika4415]

​@@narkogrunt7863 There is a difference between criticism and hate. Ppl were hating Sakura to take vocal lessons while sharing her video crying IN a practice room in front of her coach. And we all know kpop is not just vocals. Ppl should not expect ariana or adele vocals from kpop idols. 💀

[@alrightloves]

The criticism they get is very well deserved. It's not only the fact that they are untalented (they shouldn't even have debuted in my opinion because there's many other trainees much more talented and with a better attitude than any of them who didn't even have the opportunity....cough cough garam) but it's mainly that they are conceited, egotistical and arrogant. Even their whole concept of being "Fearless" fails them because they don't have a foundation to sustain themselves. And that foundation is THE talent. If they were a little bit more humble and grateful because they are privileged af instead of crying on camera....then the public would have a better view of them. But since their attitude is "People are so bad, they tell me I shouldn't be an idol because I don't know how to do anything 😢 Poor me" then the public rightfully dispises them.

[@gauravg_013]

​@@narkogrunt7863Just don't fucking listen to their songs , it's easy 😂😂 no one forcing you to

[@Apersonjustlikeyou]

This honestly needed to be said. Rosé has been looking concerningly skinny and people need to stop defending it

[@itsmebitsh9856]

No one is defending her, because she haven’t done anything wrong for someone to defend her. She is just living her her life without harming anyone. And you stans and of course me, don’t know a thing about her life and what she is going through. I still don’t get why Stans care about idols body more than, the idols themselves. I mean yeah she’s skinny, but we don’t know WHY.

[@updownleftright2]

@@itsmebitsh9856what she meant is rosé clearly looks very very skinny to the point its concerning but there are fans who says she is not skinny at all or say she has healthy body and normalizing it. For her height that body definitely don’t look healthy

[@Classical-Fairy]

she did that her own? no one obliged her

[@Apersonjustlikeyou]

@@updownleftright2 exactly

[@ajlee2168]

@@itsmebitsh9856 im sorry for the rant, but your comment confused me. "I still don’t get why Stans care about idols body more than, the idols themselves. I mean yeah she’s skinny, but we don’t know WHY." what do you mean we care more about their bodies than the person? and you just said it yourself. shes skinny, we dont know why, and thats exactly WHY its concerning. in an industry like this, with stans behaving the way they do, it would be abnormal for these idols to NOT have body issues. she isnt just living her life without harming anyone, shes a popular public figure with a mostly young female audience, and whether she wants to or not, shes influencing them with every post that shows off her fragile figure. there are pictures of idols, and tons of them of rose and lisa specifically, in eating disorder forums as "inspiration", because to an anorexic their bodies are considered "perfect goals". ED's are selfharm. and im not a fan of her, but its nothing but human to look at her, reconigze that obviously this is NOT normal or healthy, and be concerned about this stranger. rose has been praised her whole career for being thin with a tiny waist, added to that her recent plastic surgeries, it wouldnt be a stretch to say that its messed with her self image, leading to whatever is happening now. no one should attack her obviously, but the "defensive" arguments ive seen fans make are just completely wild. if anything, to me, it seems like those fans dont care about her wellbeing at all, as long as their favorite doll, rose, just keeps looking pretty. they romanticize this which IS harmful. its way more humane to react to this with empathy and a healthy dose of concern.

[@thegoldendeffodils]

Dark or girl crush concepts not always mean "sexy" look at babymonster's "Sheesh" or "Batter up". Although i don't like these song myself personally but the girls are doing well doing these concepts. I am not saying that illit should follow the steps of babymonster or new jeans. Obviously they should adopt there own style.

[@stwudy]

Even with baby monster you often see them dressed inappropriately for their age. You all are just so used to this in appropriate behaviour in kpop , that you completely brainwashed

[@venti3741]

honestly i think the cute concept fits illit perfectly, but i think they should have songs that fit their vocal range. for example, their kcon cover for what is love by twice was FIRE

[@yoursnatchedwig2856]

Exactly if the songs were dark everyone would have said they were being sexualized or whatever and that they are teenagers

[@Sanatizer_1009]

I feel bad for beomhan he's talent being wasted he deserves sm better..

[@Sonyeonstan]

i'm not sure and i'm genuinely asking but has he shown of his talent before? because to me, I just saw his one song and yeah he can dance but the vocals were...well not quite there.

[@Sanatizer_1009]

@@Sonyeonstan yeah he can dance well but he needs improvement in vocals

[@narkogrunt7863]

He talented? I doubt after seeing his debut. He can dance I give him that, but singing……

[@our7boys773]

@@Sonyeonstan no that's a genuine question cus...........ahem man i cannot defend my g on that☠so irdk

[@I.Ncrustyahhtoes]

@@Sonyeonstanyes his talent is not in singing but the amount of people I have seen hating him for other dumb reasons is crazy. He has been through so much and people still send him death threats and hate him for no good reasons beside his one song 😢

[@n.i.k.i.t.a]

tbh I've stopped taking those "best xyz in kpop" threads seriously. and it's always the ones with blue ticks. like i get it you want engagement but plss💀😭

[@EverRoxas]

Yes. Some fans take such videos WAY too seriously...

[@wadiputhere]

Some kpop stans like to flex their group's social media achievements when anyone be talking about musical or artistic achievements, I won't name the fandoms but the amount of times I saw stans congratulating their fave on getting on billboard, being praised by another huge artist or having streams or having albums sold out, there's always another fandom coming in and talking about THEIR fave social media achievements, like how tf you comparing being one of the most streamed artist on a music platform to getting most likes on Instagram or followers... I always found it embarrassing

[@warda2739]

whenever i see the musical achievement vs instagram followers comparison i can't help but think the stans of the latter are being satire? unfortunately that's not the case and it's amusing to say the least

[@Sanatizer_1009]

It's mostly blinks tbh

[@nahyei]

we all know these are blinks

[@mjeeriw]

the way I immediately knew what fandom you're talking about😂

[@Ashu1985-d7u]

​@@Sanatizer_1009covering other fandoms specially army by the name of blinks like it's you people who do these stupid things and disrespect Blackpink and when blinks say some thing you say blinks are toxic and blah blah like what the f you want

[@RJ_0805]

I’ve actually noticed a lot of idols looking more and more skinnier. I don’t know what’s going on in Korea or the industry that has caused this new pressure of being extremely thin. Yes, it always been harsh, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen it this bad.

[@leeyahhlee6490]

I only disagree ith one of your points, and that is the one about not listening to a group's music because of their fans. I am black, and being a black k-pop stan is... tiring to say the least. There are at least a few groups that I refuse to interact with because of how their fandom reacted to a racism scandal, i.e. calling people slurs and saying that the trash is taking itself out when an idol is called out and fans are disappointed. In just about any other situation I'd think to seperate the fans from the artist but in k-pop I can't help but wonder what the idol did to create a fandom full of racists and/or what the fandom does that welcomes racism. I know that this is just a part of what k-pop is at this point, but I like to at least have a limit when it comes to what I'm willing to deal with and, for me, that ends when a large portion of a fandom becomes racist just to defend their fave. I guess it just taints the artist for me, so I keep the artist at an arms length at the very least.

[@Sonyeonstan]

Yes, I agree with you there.

[@R2Mw19]

Yes! I think idols are complicit by allowing it. There are examples of idols that refuse to have negativity/racism or the horrific toxic arguments from their fans. It can be done. So if it can be done and then idols just don’t do it….what is that? By saying nothing you agree. TY for your voice!

[@slavakaripova2172]

I'm a Latin girl that has really tanned skin. I can understand this situation. V, RM were my ultimate bias, Wendy, Gisele etc I was so sad for their treatment and I'm talking for fans. Idols are humans they are making mistakes but why the people don't notice them and then the same people want to have a better world and treatment to their lives. If our idols are racist we really don't know because maybe it's truth they make a mistake without thinking, maybe some of them can control really themselves and don't express racism words etc but they are, maybe they love black. The difference is that fan are talking personally for black people.

[@Plzstayalive]

Girlll I feel you

[@kiranshrestha8820]

@@slavakaripova2172and what did v and Rm do?

[@luisab3079]

I think most people stanning pre-debut groups are company stans or stans of an already established group under the same company. Like for the TXT example, I'm pretty sure more pre-debut stans were BTS fans. This mainly goes for big companies/successful older groups; smaller companies usually put out a lot of pre-debut content, sometimes months in ahead and even including music releases, which are probably what gets people's attention there.

[@Classical-Fairy]

the thing I hate is defending idols when they are wrong and acting like a doctor to defend them also. like " my fav's leg was injured 5 years ago that's why she/he can't dance" that's what makes these idols continue on this path, like he doesn't do anything and barely dances or sings or leaves in the middle of the performance, and then they try to defend him. or "My fav has breathing problems " but she/he smokes? like wtf? just bfr lol

[@C0NV3RSE.H1GH]

why do i feel like ik who you're talking about ..😭

[@sanazamir8341]

​@@C0NV3RSE.H1GH same

[@Analou13]

Idk any boygroups or boy kpop idols really but maybe he has health issues? Me personally i dont like boygroups and im not a fan of any of them and im not trying to defend him but just incase you know as someone who injures herself if you hurt yourself 5 years ago that injury will follow you.

[@Classical-Fairy]

@@Analou13 not really . they just use this as an excuse for their favs

[@Classical-Fairy]

@@C0NV3RSE.H1GH 😂

[@aethden]

What i don't understand is that many armies say that bts is not K-pop or above that, but then get mad when kpoppies dont include them in threads???

[@Plzstayalive]

Girlll bts are literally kpop like ALL 7 MEMBER ARE KOREAN . Then how could any army say bts is not kpop . Make it make sense

[@wadiputhere]

@@Plzstayalive she's saying that ARMIES say that bts isn't kpop ans that they are above that, then get mad about them not being in kpop threads

[@Sonyeonstan]

we say that because k-poppies treat bts like shit and not the pioneers that they are. Here, I referred to posts that said "first kpop girl group to be on rolling stones" as if the a k-pop first wouldn't be "first kpop group to be on rolling stones" which is ofc bts.

[@MCFCJake]

​@@Plzstayalivemany of them literally say that bts are bigger than kpop and not really a kpop group. I don't think you know your own fanbase.......

[@A-A-A1870]

What are you even saying?? Just because Messi is a world class footballer who has global fan following, he shouldn't be included in list of "the best Argentine footballers of all time" ?? Seriously, make it make sense!!!

[@nayeonswife1415]

I agree with all of these. ALL of these. I love your Chanel!!! Ur always right and honestly so glad I found your Chanel.

[@chimchimindiandragon]

Amazing video and I also want to recommend you for bringing and making this huge point .... people were going apeshit on RM for not taking a stand on the Palestine conflict...like get a brain ..you don't need an idol to analyse your personal beliefs...that idol may not have a personal opinion about any political issues they choose this career for a reason if they were very interested in politics they would be politicians..no?? And sometimes idols and celebrities send charity to people affected by conflicts or disasters but they are strictly humanitarian and should be viewed as that and not attached to political ideology...another thing I am very sure companies have strict control over what is allowed in social media by any idol ..... please leave them alone ...they love all their fans because fans make them very very rich and really don't care about their caste creed religion sexuality skin colour or any other characteristics.. period

[@loveallkpopidols]

I agree with most of your points and whatever you said needs to be acknowledged

[@N0R5K1maxi]

girl you ate down with every single one of these opinions and honestly you always do your videos are some of the realist kpop videos out there and plus your voice is honestly so calm and soothing

[@christinaa8531]

3:46 "as if EXOs event wasn't something that BTS passed off on" i agree with you about the stupid hate (especially on something like walking???? unheard of), but no need to drag another group and throw more flame in the argument.

[@kpop2032-z6w]

I really like your opinions and I agree with a lot of them and yk some disagreements but everyone has different opinions. But, I want to say, your voice is SO pretty 😭😭

[@sharonverdon4072]

Greedy companies need to take care of their artists I pay lots of money to see them in concert I don’t want to see them faint onstage that’s so sad ❤to all idols they deserve better

[@Isieisbusy]

Exols making fun of seokjin in Olympics as if exo didn't get the opportunity just because both PSY and BTS rejected, in fact after their performance exo was getting whacked by knets for lip-syncing, bad choreo and got everyone saying that it would be better if PSY or BTS had performed

[@slavakaripova2172]

Please stop this there is not reason for comparison

[@Isieisbusy]

@@slavakaripova2172 their fans were the ones spamming BTS and being arrogant, i didn't even comment anything bad about exo all those whacking was from koreans not me

[@Raybeamgobrrr]

Exo-ls hating and trying to troll on bts for not performing for the olympics? Yes. As an army, i WILL in fact compare. I didnt know the performance was rejected by psy too lol they were the third choice and were disliked by the general korean public for performing growl (song not appropriate for the olympics), what exactly are they gloating about?

[@Isieisbusy]

@@Raybeamgobrrr exols are forever gonna be stuck in 2014 and will keep yapping about something that happened a decade ago

[@Tae_Vear7]

Wait, EXO performed WHERE?! Olymipic 2024?! Did they really performed?? Damn, Had no idea about that. All That I heard was BTS (ofc) couldn't go to the opening ceremony and Jin for sure not for he was the Torch bearer. I did know EXO was a 2nd choice, didn't know it was for opening ceremony .

[@our7boys773]

I just love the way you articulate your words and put out your thoughts with literal sense that hurt no one or call out no one unless required. Hats off to all the effort you put man! and surprisingly enough i agree with most/almost all of it lol

[@valtaeonce79]

0:46 speaking of newjeans did you see that Danielle wrote a letter in support of MHJ 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@hana-uw4xt]

why is that bad ?

[@kimjeon_2016]

It's almost as if MHJ told her what to write! NJ are starting to be as creepy as their CEO

[@Isieisbusy]

​@@hana-uw4xtthat woman is whole pedophile,started hate trains towards multiple groups, called a shaman for BTS,tried to reveal idol's private information, called nj and their fans brain-dead and cursed them in chats,tried to illegally sell hybe's private business related information, said that nj members were prettier when they were younger(like literally 10 year old), stole trainees from the other hybe subsidiary and the list goes on, she's a whole witch and nj members are still blinding supporting her despite the fact she'll throw them away without a single thought once they'll turn 18 and gonna be too old for her

[@chuuislovechuuislife]

@@hana-uw4xtshe’s a creep

[@staerdvst3632]

​@@hana-uw4xtShe's a deranged woman with p€do tendencies, a very problematic individual overall, and she brought an insane amount of hate to hybe and their groups (mainly illit, lsrfm and a bit bts) when she tried and failed to betray the company.

[@jjade1734]

While i do agree about taking our government officials accountable , most of the people who are in charge of running campaigns to encourage idols to speak up are also donating and making campaigns to directly help palestinians... theyre not just random stan accs that are keyboard warriors (even tho they exists) i dont agree on harassing the idols but since Jin is out of the military now, he isnt under any regulations anymore and its fine to try and educate and encourage him to talk about palestine because of his influence (not harassment ofc) i hate the fact that some armys will brag about bts' influence and their visit to the UN and white house but then report armys weverse letters regarding palestine (which btw has no threatening or violent messages in them) just weird.

[@wadiputhere]

Why do SM stans act like sm groups are the gods of kpop

[@darryl450]

Because they are And it's always been like there for decades The industry is always Praising them And always bring them up to make an example

[@valtaeonce79]

@@darryl450”because they are” this idol worship isn’t normal…

[@wadiputhere]

@@darryl450 you sound like their slave

[@mjeeriw]

ikr??? and always making non sm group stans (I like rv and aespa tho 😭) feel like we don't have any taste and listen to only trendy songs. (my opinion only)

[@Isieisbusy]

The way most hate trains towards idols are started by SM stans and then YG stans

[@flipchuu]

i was on tiktok yesterday, and i watched a video of yunjin teasing their new comeback, and LORD GOD, when i tell you the starbucks comments and infuriating. like its literally the same recycled bullshit like 'starbucks' or 'wheres your starbucks yunjin'. literally so ai generated

[@ellapetal]

All I can say to basically all of this is, preach bestie!

[@blackpinkedits8426]

your points are true but these are all extremely bts biased, like u armies have done alot of shit towards other groups and thats way more concerning and needs to be raised like the way yall treated exo and blackpink is absulutly disgusting and yall arnt even shamefull cause i see blinks and exo-ls apologising to bts but i havent seen a single vid of armies apologising cause they think the world revolves around bts. dont get me wrong bts are amazing like they are so talented and hardworking but they do deserve a more mature fanbase.... like every other group

[@mjeeriw]

bro this is my fav army yt channel along boracity magazine. finally someone i can trust with my army heart cuz the multistan kpoppies always ignore bts

[@JungmiKoru]

I agree with you 😊.

[@keshyschronicles]

Literally the most mature ktubers

[@Raybeamgobrrr]

This channel & boracity are the most raw, mature fact&data-based ktubers i know. Other ktubers usually gloat about their/“underrated” kpop groups and just casually never mention new bts/solo releases, it pisses me off sm fr

[@mjeeriw]

@@Raybeamgobrrr exactly! like how are they not mentioning a single bts solo release in best k-pop songs of 2023 like bfr 😂 it's like they don't wanna consider bts as k-pop or smth? 🤭

[@kokomidanoporbeleza7558]

​@@mjeeriw because people have different opinions?

[@annatroncoso7085]

You really need more views. There’s a lot of kpopies that need a reality check

[@EverRoxas]

There are many ARMYS who could use the same... Just saying...

[@annatroncoso7085]

@@EverRoxas lmao I said kpopies, yknow that’s K-pop fans in general right? What’s your fixation?

[@EverRoxas]

​@@annatroncoso7085 A lot of ARMYS call all other fandoms such.

[@annatroncoso7085]

@@EverRoxas ... So you asume I'm an army just because I use lingo you use incorrectly?

[@n.i.k.i.t.a]

see all I'll say is if celebrities are your center of activism then I'm sorry your not here for the actual cause. performative activism in kpop especially has prevailed for a very long time. you see a new "boycotter" get exposed for their hypocrisy every 2-3 days. you're boycotting??that's very good coz it definitely helps. you're politely urging and encouraging people to boycott those brands??nice very nice. but if you're out there harassing and being nasty to someone AND THEIR FAMILY just because you want them to "speak up"???that's not ok at all. i myself have never consumed any of those brands that are on the bds list and if i see anyone I KNOW consume them then I'd POLITELY try to make them aware about the situation (this is also a topic to discuss but no one's ready for that conversation, not everybody is chronically online and not everybody's aware of the boycott outside twt) but if they don't then i won't go to the point of forcing or harassing them to do it.

[@Jeremy-ln5yu]

I really love your comment. I only knew about the boycott because of Twitter, that and many other "scandals" but now that I deleted it I fell that 80% of those scandals/problems don't reach me anymore

[@funinartcraftzz]

the bts one is soo true, it needed to be said.. i've seen so many kpop shorts related to relevance and popularity (and normal kpop shorts as well) and bts is like nowhere to be seen.. its kinda ridiculous

[@mjeeriw]

I feel like most of them purposely.. ignore..bts? most ktubers too,, when they make videos like "best k-pop albums of all time" "best cb of 2023" etc. i see every group but bts. its their taste but how can u not include bts in videos they deserve to be? (I'm a multistan don't hate me)

[@Isieisbusy]

​@@mjeeriw They can only try to erase bts from their shorts and stupid threads on twt, when it comes to charts and participation in music their favs are nowhere to be seen either

[@slavakaripova2172]

​@@mjeeriwI want to say some reason why. Because some ktubers take money from other companies to promote artists. Maybe Hybe hasn't this strategy of marketing and doesn't pay them.

[@EverRoxas]

Do you honestly expect everyone to be a fan of BTS?

[@rainy.bangtan]

@@EverRoxas no. you dont have to be a fan of anything unless you genuinely like it. but what i think the commenter meant was like when youtubers make compilations of, for example, best kpop songs of all time, bts should be on the list, whether you like them or not. for example, if someone were to make a video about best kpop song, they need to factor in things such as sales, streams, views, etc, not just personal opinion. so even if you personally dont like the song dynamite, it should still be included in these compilations, considering how it has a grammy nomination, most streamed kpop song on spotify, one of the most viewed kpop mvs, etc.

[@NaveeraNoman]

AGREED WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE 👏

[@moonchild7425]

People will defend extreme levels of underweight signs and when their idol says they were forced to starve by eating ice a day to maintain that figure, they'll come yelling at the company for mistreating them. [Obviously shaming idols is not the answer. Neither am I defending the companies for forcing diets. Both problems exist. Can be discussed separately.] I'm not saying that every idol is forced to go on unhealthy diets, or isnt naturally like that. That certainly is a reach. But I see a common pattern in female idols of the industry, especially soloists like Somi, where whenever there's a comeback they go down in weight to a huge extent and the moment the cb era ends, they revert back to normal. This seems very "natural" isn't it. (And also on the topic, a lot of former ex-idols have spoken out about not getting their periods for years due to the weight and that's truly concerning. Not natural.)

[@safetypin127]

Bro the 6th one i was wondering about the same thing like how can you stan any group without even listening to their music.

[@ayakoha]

kpop isn't only about talent, Beomhan was the funny relatable guy you can see in many other groups, he would've been the mood maker and stan attractor and people liked him because of that. I don't know if he actually has any singing/dancing talent, but he's definitely skilled in interacting with fans which is an important aspect in kpop. As for pre-debut groups, it depends. You named TXT, I don't think it's crazy if people decided to pay attention to the juniors of BTS. If someone debuts in a big company, it's unlikely for them to be completely untalented.

[@Sonyeonstan]

you're right that personality is a plus but just personality isn't a k-pop trait, k-pop is music, it's art, personality might get your fans but ultimately, talent is needed.

[@Seungminniemouse148-zo8vd]

I disagree with the one about not adding bts to a video. I feel like just because people didn't add bts to their video doesn't mean they are insecure and people have different opinions just because you feel like bts should be on a "best Koop rappers " video doesn't mean other people have to feel the same and tbh I feel like people saying things like this are the insecure ones because they can't stand seeing one video without bts included. P.S I'M NOT HATING ON BTS I JUST FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T NEED TO BE IN EVERY SINGLE VIDEO

[@ineeduenthusiast]

I think for some videos, it's okay to leave them out, but for something like the Best Rappers in Kpop, you can't leave them out. Their rapline is widely acknowledged as one of, if not the greatest rapline ever.

[@aethden]

Yes especially most of the time these videos are opinion based and not statistic. I mean it's still weird if you don't put atleast suga into the ranking but at the end of the day, maybe the person prefers other style etc.

[@moonchild7425]

Nobody said they should be in every single video and every single conversation. Trust me, we don't want that either. However when there's videos you make about best rappers/dancers in kpop, put every single underrated to famous idol, varying across all ranges and styles, and the only ones you "miss out on" is bts, it feels weirdly personal towards bts. When the group is widely known for having ONE of the best rap lines in the industry (note: ONE of the best, not the best. Don't at me.), it is natural for their fans to expect a mention of their names in videos talking about/ranking best rappers in kpop. How is this an issue? Wouldn't you question why there's no mention of EXO in "best vocals in kpop" videos??

[@moonchild7425]

​@@aethdenbut we aren't talking about opinionated videos though, much rather the "best rappers in kpop"/ranking videos.

[@Seungminniemouse148-zo8vd]

Moonchild7425 I don't get why you are acting as if it someone makes a video without BTS "they are insecure about their favs" or hating on bts bear in mind these videos are made by people sat in their room trying to get likes and views intact if army's are SO affected by this then they are "insecure about their favs" and can't stand anybody's opinion being different

[@musicman2846]

I am not a hard core KPOP Fan, however, I do have a favorite group that I listen to and check out whenever they release new material. I also enjoy songs from other artist and groups. I agree with what you said about most if not all. I just wanted to comment that when the first songs came out from BTS member(s) while they were serving, the first thing that came through my mind was Well-Played/Genius. Their company thought ahead for this, and all I can say is Great Planning!!!

[@girlwithhappiness1298]

I totally agree with you Girl

[@ellislinva]

You said what needed to be said.

[@Suxrosee]

U R SOOO REAL FOR THE BOYCOTT THING GIRL OMGMGMGMGM LIKE i dont like Yunjin for that reason and for the fact that she is friends with erica ha (a zionist) but oml the way ppl pick and choose who to hate on makes me so angry, like no way in hell ppl r defending jihyo, sana, aespa, lisa, jisoo, hoshi, somi, and more on drinking shitbucks (or other boycotted companies)/ associate themselves with zionists yet full on be HORRIBLY disrespectful to Yunjin and use it as an opportunity to be misogynistic. its like either hold everyone accountable or stfu oml

[@miadavis4837]

Just gonna leave this comment here for anyone who might want to reply and disagree with you... Korean Starbucks is not connected to the Starbucks that is being boycotted. It is fully owned by a Korean company called Shinsegae and the problematic Starbucks sold all their shares back in 2015 so they get zero profit from it. So, anyone that complains about idols drinking Starbucks in Korea needs to do their research.

[@narkogrunt7863]

I don’t care about coffee, but Yunjin’s sister liked zionist posts. Square face Yunjin is a zionist and a terrible vocalist like rest of Lesserafim.

[@aethden]

I swear I'm almost not listening to kpop anymore because they haven't talked about or apologized, for most groups I feel uncomfortable listening to them

[@narkogrunt7863]

@@Suxrosee Drinking coffee is nothing compared to liking pro content on Tiktok. Only Yunjin liked pro stuff.

[@C0NV3RSE.H1GH]

sana stopped drinking starbucks and boycotted it, do ur research properly.

[@randomuser-nt9if]

this is getting ridiculous, I think most kpop fans who give idols backlash arent concerned with the music and look for any other reason to dehumanise idols existences. they look for a non issue to make it an issue and suddenyl everythings an offence. idols cant date freely for this same reason its the same "offences" same "narratives" same overreactions all for what reason? I cant fathom taking something like that and make it so "deep" that its not an actual crime / offence, and people often act like idols dont a crime when they get cancelled.

[@cinnamaricat]

i wanna point out smth about the starbucks thing the korean franchise doesn't donate to isreal so i don't understand why idols are even being attacked when their money isn't going toward isreal unless it's fear they'll influence someone to drink starbucks from a franchise that does but i feel like ppl aren't thinking about either of those things when choosing to attack idols i find the whole thing stupid no matter how you look at it tho

[@taaleyakhan3134]

It's not about buying those products but displaying it on social media for millions to see and you know kpoppies will be like if my fave isn't boycotting why should I?

[@Gojo..satoruu]

I'm sorry,I'm confused... Didn't these idols used to literally hide the product names and labels??.. But now thier showing off starbucks?.. Like they used to hide names of coke and certain drinks.

[@Raybeamgobrrr]

Great video! About the first point, I think you should react to the dissection of the magnetic mv. I was not a believer, but a couple of vids on yt really changed my perspective that it had a ped*philic tendency, would be great if you showed your insights! I was creeped tf out lol, but id really like your opinion on it! Idk if it’d be classified as lolita or just plain disgusting ped*philic bait, i’d really like a discussion on it.

[@vanthadoun1]

Some Kpop stans live in a delusional world. they see their bias as perfect and refuse to let anyone point out facts. But yes, we look at Rosé and we can see her ribcage and that doesnt look healthy. The mere mention of which and people become very defensive on her behalf. We are concerned, and if someone we knew was going through similar physical changes- we ought to say or do something about it. At the end of the day, The Agency only cares about revenue that comes in. They see these idols not as people, but as products. They are trying to market their products to a wider audience and once the product shows signs of wear and tear, its time to move onto a newer model. The old model is obsolete. Its so sad that Kpop idols have the fans who actually care about them, and the Agency uses them and discards them when they have no value left. I appreciate your honesty. As someone who speaks their mind also, I have gotten bashed for mentioning 'they emperor is naked!'

[@JungmiKoru]

I know kpopies are so jealous cause our jin is the only k idol to do that 😎. well the Olympic head quarter choose him, they respect jin when he became the torch bearer and he is the pride of South Korea, real legend 😌💜. Three things that represents sk is Bts Kimchi Hanbok .

[@slavakaripova2172]

Jin is incredible artist but is unbelievable some idols are doing criminal things and there are people to defend them when idols are doing good things and there are people to hate them

[@JungmiKoru]

​@@slavakaripova2172 true I agree but if you are talking about bts then let me tell you they are adults and i won't agree with BTS doing bad things but here are some solo stans who can't hear anything bad about the boys.

[@add1e93]

I agree with most of the things said in this video, but I’d have to say that I disagree with the opinion on Beomhan. To be fair, I wouldn’t call myself a “Stan” of him because I hardly follow him too much and, honestly, I too did not enjoy his song me myself and I very much. But I find him to be a funny and charming person, and I don’t think that his song not being very good warrants any sort of hate. I do understand you saying that people jumped on becoming his fan because he is more easily accessible, I do find that to sadly be true, but to be honest I still think that being a fan of him is understandable seeing his funny and charming personality (as stated earlier.) Regardless of his musical talent, I am personally a casual fan of him because I like his personality, anyways i really did enjoy this video and I’m not trying to argue or hate or anything just saying my POV 💝

[@7heaven.n]

Amazing video and you definitly said so many things that needed to be said! I hope it reaches more people! Tho I kind of disagree with not stanning a group because of the fandom. Of course you are completely right, no one is forced to go on twitter and look up their shitposts. But for me I always kind of want to interact with a fandon, just to connect since that is for ne really what means to be in a fandom. That of course can be for anyone different. My example would be New Jeans and Bunnies (I think thats their name). Personally I have seen to many mean ones for no reason, bringing down other groups so New Jeans can shine which personally gives me a big ick. Yes not everyone is like that but the ones that are, are loud and everywhere in everyones business. Especially now with the "yeah New Jeans have such complicated footwork and choreographies while Babymonster dance like little kids *showing Chiquitas dancebreak in Forever*". It's simply not necessarily and the sentence would be fine without the last part. Yes, in any fandom there are rude people but Bunnies can't hold back which just doesn't make me comfortable being in that fandom. So I just kind of causual listen to New Jeans now❤

[@LadyYunalesca]

“Be real some of them can’t even sing” NOOOOOOOOOOO 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 subbed

[@Zuha92]

Off topic but girl your voice is so soothing its so pretty

[@wadiputhere]

I like your voice a lot for some reason, not trying to be weird tho

[@shrinidhis613]

It's very calm.....

[@thekidhistorian]

The only opinion i disagree with is #15, I think. In my opinion, it was very reasonable to call out Jin to do something when he was chosen as torchbearer. There was already an ongoing BDS campaign to ask torchbearers to speak out. One hashtag would’ve been more than enough of a statement. Will it stop that country from participating in the Olympics? No. But will it encourage other torchbearers to say something, or bring more attention to the war crimes, or make stans rethink how they’ve been acting? It could. And that counts for something.

[@Nnn812kl]

About the yunjin thing, i think people are mostly more offended by her response to situation, cause i remember her adressing this somewhere and thats when the situation blew out. At first most people were actually trying to let her know about the situation, but her response very much gave off i dont really care. That kind of gave a green card to a lot of perrformative activists that hated her for no good reason, but now they do have a justified reason. Also hypocrisy and inconsistency in kpop is deadly stay safe.

[@Mhk_04]

so off topic but your voice is so nice to listen to especially with headphones, it tickles all the right parts of my autistic brain😭

[@warda2739]

nah because ghoulpinks and villainpinks tweeting vile things about namjoon's and bts' looks while looking like that...

[@aarnamakhija]

ikrrrr?

[@mjeeriw]

what is ghoulpink/ villainpink ? 😭

[@Angelictigerjin]

@@mjeeriw 2 of the nastiest Twitter/X users who camp on BTS posts just to hate on the members(bts) and when called out they frequently say ARMY are racist,sexist or something else hateful.

[@mjeeriw]

@@Angelictigerjin ohh I see, thank you cuz I'm not on twt. damn that's not nice of them

[@Isieisbusy]

Like commenting on BTS while they themselves look like that even their mother can't love those faces... there's a special place in hell reserved for them

[@ahnhyungseobhaveyoulearnth8286]

8:44 this section reminds me of how suddenly kpop stans, of all companies and idols except orbits are against pirating. i say except orbits because it’s the only kpop boycott that’s ever worked and it worked because people made sure to pirate and to not just abstain out of nowhere, as to show support for the girls. the whole hybe/sm/jyp (hybe w scooter, sm with mcdonald’s and jyp being a zion himself) all would rather fight against each other and with fans of idols under the same company saying “why are we the only ones boycotting?” has been so stupid and made everything so unsuccessful. like, orbits were very willing to share tips on pirating songs and yt content that showcase or contain zionists working in them but no, there’s a weird superiority complex that comes along with having nothing to show for it. it shows just how big an ego kpop stans have failed with just a few years.

[@kenyajackson656]

I am so glad you made this video. I am so tired of some fans thinking that all this is okay to do. I am naturally thin, not skinny. There have been times where i lost too much weight amd i felt sick. My bones hurt, i was lethargic and i overall was very unhealthy. It is a shame to make someone so stick thin and they try to call it healthy. Its why i quit modeling . And trying to make idols responsible for world issues is just ridiculous. Just because of their status doesn't mean they have the power to stop cruelty and wars. If thats the case we in America should insist Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar, and big stars to drop what there doing and take care of it if its that easy. We all need to do our part to help this world, not just big influencers. And stop hating on these poor people, idols are doing their job, nothing more nothing less. How would people like it if a bunch of folks showed up at their place of work or in their home and criticized every little thing they did. Wouldn't like it much would they? So before they opens their hate traps, they need to put themselves in that idols shoes. ❤❤❤💜💜💜

[@notjamin]

I understand why it's difficult for BTS to speak up but still find it really disappointing, y'know? Like I'm sure there is immense pressure on them to stay silent for company and government PR reasons but I wish they could bring just a bit more "what are they gonna do, fire me?" energy to this. It's a bit embarrassing to be supporting a band whose image used to revolve around speaking up and not mindlessly following other people's dreams, only for them to agree to contracts that prevent them from speaking up on controversial issues.

[@Sonyeonstan]

As much as i understand holding our faves accountable. Please also keep in mind the bigger picture and how scrutinizing posts from idols is ultimately doing very little for the actual cause. Instead of forcing idols to become our politicians, why not urge and scrutinize our politicians to make changes.Also, while bts message has criticized oppressive systems, this is much bigger than the Korean school system and I don't think it's fair to say that just because bts have tackled harsh topics before that they are entitled to or fit to talk about such a huge issue. I would appreciate if they shared info and links but we must understand that that's a very hard thing to do while working for the gvt. and jin might be done with his service but his name is still attached to 'bts' and his other rmembers.

[@rainy.bangtan]

i get where youre coming from but even if they did speak out, what would it change? people are just gonna use it as another reason to hate on them. and plus, this situation is a bit different from the ones in the past. before, speaking out was easier because the only people theyd need to go against were the antis. but now, speaking out to defend themselves would be indirectly speaking out against the government as well as antis. antis wouldnt have mattered before, but right now, they literally arent even here to fight back against it

[@aethden]

​@Sonyeonstan but they are activists. They worked and spoke at the UN, they have the image of the good, caring people they built themselves. it's really disappointing that they apparently don't give a fuck about Gaza

[@warda2739]

​@@aethden bts has shown support for palestine even before 2023... they're in the military right now, "not giving a fuck" is rather weird to say. bts are not the activists y'all want them to be just because they attended UN and talked about mental health, they didn't actively speak out about ukraine either (just like other 'woke' kpop idols). such is the case with bp and aespa too who were at the royal house and uns respectively. at the end of the day, kpop idols are still under a strict contract for a reason.

[@euniesthebaws_freepalestine]

@@warda2739 being in the military is hardly an excuse as Taeyong from NCT spoke up explicitly abt P🍉lestine as soon as he got into the military

[@its.nirju.not.birju.]

I agree with all of them I actually was surprised with so many point which felt like came right out of my mind in this video I'm grateful you spoke up

[@whatevergoesforme5129]

Seeing the rib cage of Rose is kinda disturbing for me as well as her skinny arms. It is not naturally skinny because I know several natural skinny people and even though they do look skinny, I don't see their rib cage. When one looks too bony, just like starving dogs and cats, it is not being naturally skinny. EDIT: Since I am Asian, I do know what naturally skinny Asians look and when they age, the also don't gain weight that much because they are naturally skinny.

[@Plzstayalive]

You are the only channel with brain like u don't throw hate on anyone and calmly say your pov in a respectful way

[@robinelias6797]

"drowning roosters" 😂😂😂 You are so funny sometimes!!

[@AntiFearNot]

I liked most of your points. I just want to say that I think everything with ILLIT is just sticky: From how the line up was determined on R U Next? To Youngseo (?) leaving And EVERYTHING with ADOR… The girls literally can’t win in any situation, which is the main reason I don’t support them. Deep down I know I would love them so much, but I can’t overlook everything HYBE has done. This is kinda a response to your second point! 😊

[@darryl450]

Then why don't you call out your own fandom? Who body shame people and yes, they do. Bts has one of the biggest and worst fandom in K-Pop. Who are always dragging up the group Just because they're beating them in records and when it's not about them They try to bash them. Your fandom even talk about people's Looks so stop trying to Act like that fandom is all Goody goody. You can have a lot of hypocrites in this fandom. If you don't see it, you're blind

[@niky436]

There are always bad people in every fandom. I don’t think they are excluding them, they are referring to all kpop fans whose intentions are bad

[@Classical-Fairy]

the worst fandom in K-pop is the blinks lol just try to be honest lol

[@Sonyeonstan]

all i know is i have seen my fair share of disgust in my fandom and called it out as well. It doesn't always have to be a "but they did this and this" . That's very immature. This point was added to my video because I recently saw big blink accounts hating on jimin with this language. And while armys can be toxic including the solo stans who I'm making a video about, at least we didn't post pictures of dead and bloodied soldiers hoping that happened to your fave.

[@irakulkarni5445]

​@@Sonyeonstan girl I've seen armies make fun of Kai's father's death & shit like "if taehyung supports israel, we armies will too" n countless more let's not kid ourselves

[@BangTanSonyeondan_baldhead_era]

Let me remind u what nasty things exols did to BTS and Armys. - Bullying BTS since 2014. - bullied an child actress because she said that her favorite boy group is BTS. - make a "break the wings" project to sabotage BTS comeback. - filed a petition in blue house to disband BTS. - making fun of Taehyung's grandma's death. - putting blood on BTS posters and taking a pic with it. - showing a middle finger when BTS was shown on the screen. - making a "boy with luv" dislike project.

[@irakulkarni5445]

And I'm sorry it might be difficult to talk about the genocide but how much can it affect someone at the stature of bts when ROOKIE groups are showing open support. Whereas bts have way more freedom due to their position in the industry and a more prominent voice which can help create even more awareness. But they choose to stay silent about it. That doesn’t rub the right way to me.

[@warda2739]

which rookie? as far as i know, only fatou has actually spoken about palestine.

[@wadiputhere]

@@irakulkarni5445 which rookie groups? Are rookie groups in the damn military? Are you talking about fatou? She is not Korean she can say whatever she wants bro

[@MCFCJake]

I might not like BTS for a variety of reasons but that's just bs. I remember once Elvis Presley said,"I am an entertainer not a political activist, I am not supposed to speak on issues let the politicians do that" and before you say this is a genocide and not political. Do you realize that those are still politics?

[@Niagarapopoooo.7]

How can they speak when they are in military

[@C0NV3RSE.H1GH]

lmao they literally donated to palestine, tf u want?

[@n.i.k.i.t.a]

nah bro imagine facing backlash because you teased YOUR OWN FANS. eunchae better than me coz I'd have snapped😭

[@ivewrls]

BRO UR VOICE IS SO PRETTY

[@Jiminstoxicwife]

Miss ma'am ate and left no crumbs

[@stilliiiiiii]

1.Bunnies has to be joking because wtf 2. Ppl want that? Lol 3. I agree it's concerning when they idolise being unhealthy skinny 4. They are just antis not same ppl lmao 5. Facts 6. I have noticed it too lol it's honestly hilarious

[@whippedtm8145]

I agree with your point about stanning predebut being stupid, but I don't think beomhan is a good example. A better example would be aespa or groups from big companies. Mys were acting a fool before aespa even debuted, whereas beomhan is constantly active and interacting with fan before properly debuting. Beomhan is more like an influencer who happens to be a kpop trainee

[@eliskahoffmannova4664]

if bts are unable to publicly make statements, why did V post the fries picture? if they are unable, he shouldn't be able to support either side, no? i'm not sure if i understood it right, but you contradict yourself in point 14 about V and BTS after all you said in point 13. i'm not english speaker so maybe i didn't understand it right, but that's how it came out, so maybe if you could explain? why is it different for any idol vs bts and their members? shouldn't it be the same?

[@eliskahoffmannova4664]

like for example you said that they have strict contract, so they can't always say or do what they want - for example all the kpop groups collabs - but then bts v posted that picture on his own, no? no collab, no nothing, just him, so isn't his case worse than all those who are under contract? really just asking, because this whole thing is confusing me...

[@rafaellareisdimonaco2780]

I do not agree with V posting that picture but I think he didin't do It on purpose. They cannot make statements but they can post on social media things that they filmed and took pictures before enlistment. That picture was taken in 2022 during a trip I belive and he post a bunch of pictures of that trip. Unfortunately, the fries picture was among them. I'm saying again I DO NOT AGREE with that picture being posted but I really think It wasn't meant to hurt anyone.

[@eliskahoffmannova4664]

@@rafaellareisdimonaco2780 oh thank you for explaining! yeah, it sucks that picture made it there, i heard that mcdonalds are off the list now but some people are saying they are not, so who knows by now, i'm rather staying away from everything. but its understandable why it upset people, as it was posted as a part of photodumb and it could seem like supporting that side, since it wasnt like his company made him do it. but thanks for explaining, i was really confused about the whole thing, becauss to me, if the idol is made to do stuff by their company, ofc they can't say or do much against them, but with V it was different and yeah... Thanks!

[@Sonyeonstan]

​@@eliskahoffmannova4664 As much as i understand holding our faves accountable. Please also keep in mind the bigger picture and how scrutizing posts from idols is ultimately doing very little for the actual cause. Instead of forcing idols to become our politicians, why not urge and scrutinize our politicians to make changes.

[@eliskahoffmannova4664]

@@Sonyeonstan i agree with that, i just didnt understand the switch between other idols vs bts in your video, that was all

[@Sarah-AOBTS]

I kinda wanna hear abt ur opinion on tae and the hate he's getting (I'm not hating on him but i have moved from engaging with his content until smth else happens)

[@isha.sarraf]

I completely agree with all

[@sugarstruck07]

“Compliment their parents”that was epic😂😂 I totally agree with your PoV on protest trucks…some of the biggest economies and organisations are being silent on this matter and these kpop stans want a K-pop idol who just came back from military to speak 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@drennae]

Again a great video

[@its.nirju.not.birju.]

0:50 I like ilit music It's really nice but lsfm and illit have become punching bag 1:28 they are literal child, nooo adult song 1:43 pls someone saying I skinny shamed ehen I said lisa body is not the standard, eat, keep a good bmi ughhh Rose is alarmingly skinny same for wony, lisa is not better too 3:23 BTS is the standard and hating bts for their fav not being able to keep up with even 2018 bts us crazy 4:24 greatest rapper and no rm, suga and hobi Nah the list is rigged 4:54 that's literally stanning the face 5:37 beom is funny and all but he ain't idol, stop, he just story tell on tik tok 6:08 saw a comment saying "sully and jeonghan your at a better place" under a lsmf hate calling out video Disgusting I thing lsfm getting hate is getting out of hand but bringing out them is just 6:10 yunjin getting hate for saying "change the idol industry " Sakura getting hate to the point she's scared to sing and then getting hate for crying and verbalize it Palastine case : the hypocrisy is crazy, taehyung got so much baseless hate for Mc fries pic

[@veen-a2092]

Umm New Jeans is Lolita its just that it's not the Lolita fashion subculture its the Loli-lets us not act like we don't know

[@MAMB14]

💯👍

[@carinaaa7761]

Speaking of company boycotting, opinions on the recent taehyung controversy? Enjoyed the vid btw!

[@Sonyeonstan]

Not okay with that or Hybe's new thing with bt21 and Mcdonalds. I think the two might be related. To me, it seems like the company asked him to do that or something similar because that's a very random and un-tae like post to make. regardless, I'm disappointed and I'm seeing these company's massive efforts to try to scramble for public favor by using kpop idols.

[@funinartcraftzz]

which controversy?

[@Myelllie]

​​@@SonyeonstanI will say that BT21 isn't owned by Hybe. I'm not sure if they have shares in the IP but they don't own it

[@imjustfine]

​@@SonyeonstanIt was a photo from 2022, he probably found the fries cute because of the size or he liked that there were 7 fries. I don't think he had any ulterior motives or that the company asked him to post them. tae usually posts random photos on his insta. Plus, he's in the army, he probably chose random photos from some outing he had, he posted them on Insta in the little time he had to check his phone, and he forgot about it. That he is receiving more hate than groups that have entire collaborations with the brand is another proof of the hypocrisy of the kpop stand and how they don't care about Palestine, the only want to feel morally superior by attacking artists who have nothing to do with the cause. The whole boycott against BTS is ridiculous and they have fallen so low as to say that they are worse than true Zionists because they have not "spoken" publicly or because they posted a photo from two years ago with a 1 dollar fries🤷🏻‍♀️

[@carinaaa7761]

@@imjustfine understandable yet its still politically insensitive to post it at this time. Him being in the army isn't an excuse for ignorance whether it's intentional or not...

[@Rinadharb98]

Rosé is me i wish i can gaun weight but u never i got many health issuess like anemia , lack vitamin D and other

[@laniibearrii]

this isn't important but I just wanted to let you know beomhan isn't Korean he's Chinese😭 I 100% agree with what you said but just had to put that out there!

[@justlibby2142]

Well said

[@moonchildbts7]

I DON'T STAN ANY OTHER GROUPS SO I AGREE WITH YOUR BTS's OPINIONS(i only stan BTS)

[@minstapee]

heavy on the boycott one. everyone only cared about using tae's post as a gotcha moment to finally hate on him/bts cause like aespa and rize out here collabing and promoting mc-japan so my question was where are kpoopies? where are the boycotters? where are the 80k likes tweets? where are mass trending tags? where are the insults? where are the let's hold them accountable people? where are the "mc is still on the boycott list people? where is the harassment? everyone is quick to deny that bts paved the way but suddenly they have the most impact in the industry? 😂

[@eliskahoffmannova4664]

@@minstapee can i have honest question because i dont understand it, im not really around haters or just bullies... but isnt the difference between these two situations that aespa and riize are made to collaborate because of sm but taehyung posted that pic on his own? therefore, the groups can't control who they collab with, but he could have chosen to not post it? or am i missing something?

[@JungmiKoru]

Tae posted a pic which was taken in 2022 even more before the war started or boycott and more people hate him cause he is from the biggest boy band in the world, the more successful artists the more they get hate but kpopies are always ready to hate BTS at any cost. They will never leave BTS alone even though BTS is representing South Korea.

[@eliskahoffmannova4664]

@@JungmiKoru pretty sure its not war but genocide and it started decades ago, just now it's talked about more

[@eliskahoffmannova4664]

@@JungmiKoru and from what i noticed, this is not hate against bts, but the fact that V posted it on his own willingness, unlike those other idols who are under contract, thats why he's getting more hate than others + he's literally one of the biggest idols out there, so many eyes are on him, like the bigger the group, the bigger the fanbase and the bigger the haters. But i dont think this situation is about "hate" but more about disappointment that someone so influential posted boycotted brand pic from two years ago + so many fans are bending their backs to protect him from his mistake. Like yeah, idols who have to work with those brands because of their contract can't really do anything about it, but V did that on his own, no contract, thats why people are upset, no?

[@ineeduenthusiast]

​@@eliskahoffmannova4664 while I agree that he shouldn't have done it and should be held accountable, the backlash he was getting wasn't disappointment, it was downright hate. Some of the things said are so disgusting. It wasn't "Oh, I'm disappointed" or "Oh, he should know better", it was "He's a Zionist", "He supports genocide", "He's the devil", things like that.

[@Raybeamgobrrr]

The 16th one!!

[@finuandrea]

Army, huh? No wonder.

[@sparkly9143]

I was alright before I started using twitter .. You know what i want to become alright once again Music . Funny favs videos . Cat videos . Food videos . Here and there ktube videos to catch up then done I went on twitter for memes . But it is not worth it .

[@Sonyeonstan]

You’re so right bestie. I sometimes have to go on Twitter for research and I despise every second of it

[@sparkly9143]

@@Sonyeonstan yes thanks for that but it is such a place

[@MCFCJake]

Twitter is ruined,I initially used it just for getting updates on football and having a laugh but it's just deranged political propaganda and agenda now on the TL

[@stwudy]

Finally someone stops normalising wonyoungs and roses body..

[@sanazamir8341]

No but the way people hate on bts for the smallest things is so ridiclous like so what if they are releasing music they are doing it for their fans so who are u to judge they are just doing their job like now we are gonna hate them for doing there job and yes not all idols can act so if u get fame u shouldnt go in the acting like ur a pro not everyone can act i dont mind it when idols go in the industry with acting talent but when u cant act u cant dont go in the acting industry and embarass urself

[@anitaude1187]

How do u feel ab V and McDonald's?

[@Sonyeonstan]

I don't agree with it. There might be other reasons behind posting that and I will say I do not think that's his way of denouncing or showing support for any side. If people think that then his posts about Banksy would be a direct contradiction. Still, I think he should have thought it through. Moreover, As much as i understand holding our faves accountable. Please also keep in mind the bigger picture and how scrutinizing posts from idols is ultimately doing very little for the actual cause. Instead of forcing idols to become our politicians, why not urge and scrutinize our politicians to make changes.

[@Érika-g4mer_YoongiOT7]

​@@SonyeonstanNas could also be that he didn't even know about it, just like me. I didn't even know McDonalds supported such a horrible thing. I only found out about it on the internet, and I bet he didn't even have time to find out about it, as cell phone use is limited in the army.

[@riazkhan8984]

The best ___ and they exclude all the talented and top idols 💀

[@moonchild7425]

The best, the first, the most BUTT excluding actual bests, firsts, and mosts of kpop, cause the taste is sht

[@dupatuptup]

An asmr channel is I beg for. ❤

[@Sonyeonstan]

Hahaha!! Idk if I could do that…but maybe?

[@fuezike]

The one with skinny shaming is so true

[@arianesaldanhaa]

I find these lists of “the best something in K-pop” and they have to make it only 4th gen, so their faves have to be first, because if BTS is in the picture they can’t win LOL

[@carinakarim]

gurl you ate yet again

[@katuduxo]

Exo is nation's pick & they perform in olympic, they have nothing to prove to anyone now, they are legends.

[@darryl450]

Hell yeah EXO kings icons and legends Emperor of K-Pop

[@Sonyeonstan]

Yay! You’re completely right. Please keep the same energy with other artists as well!

[@005_nini]

​@@darryl450make sure to wipe it when you're done 🤭

[@ineeduenthusiast]

If they're the nation's pick, how come they offered the spot to BTS first.....

[@katuduxo]

@@ineeduenthusiast What spot?

[@itsallagoodfun6018]

You have great points and I liked the video. ❤ I can tell you're young and I will give you friendly advice as an elder since I am 40: Please don't use the F word that much, it doesn't fit with your gentle voice.

[@swetha4420]

Just a neutral opinion here, I just think Kpop stans kind of don't consider BTS as kpop anymore since they entered the global market. Their music also moved past the usual kpop feel. I think they got tired of everything revolving around BTS, like in award shows they used to sweep everything and other groups just became overlooked. Even in the Olympics, south korea was introduced with BTS name attached in the opening ceremony. Like they could've just used "Kpop" but they used BTS as the poster child. So I think other kpop stans are just tired of everyone using BTS as the representative of kpop even though kpop is a large pool of great artists.

[@warda2739]

i agree! but why would the olympics use 'kpop'? like they used bts because bts are legends at this point like you said, kpop on the other hand is a genre and is comparatively not as popular

[@YeseniaCargill721]

As much as I hate to say this but people should stop idolizing female idols who are skinny what the hell is up with people attacking bts🤦🏽‍♀️people these days are ridiculous and pathetic and unhinged and completely unstable

[@riazkhan8984]

The yunjin hate reminds me of how armys showed so much support to V after the mcdonalds thing yet I don't think he was ever forced to put out apology

[@trishab2782]

Bruh what??He is forced to take down the post and apologize....each and every kpoppie and even locals have teamed up against him and the harassment gets worse every single day....Even Armys are cancelling him....why are u trying to portray your fave as the "only victim"....?

[@riazkhan8984]

@@trishab2782 yunjin isn't even my fav I don't care about her lol...and I don't know if you missed the # we support V or the many MANY others that trended world wide after that or all the excuses they came up with. Neither of them are victims of being called out for their action but both of them are victims of mass and disgusting hate.