My Kaabo Mantis Has a Lot of Problems: 500 Mile Update

Update: I fix a lot of the issues and follow up with this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHXMmZaPZsSjhdE
Small issues become big issues, and new issues arise in this episode of: "Will the Mantis Make it to Work and Back Without a Flat Tire?". Subscribe to see the thrilling conclusion to this epic saga!
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[@RK9Rides]

Please read: Those of you telling me that I am tightening the stem plate in the wrong place, thank you for informing me and I will use this information to fix the scooter. HOWEVER, just because the stem issue CAN be fixed does not make the Mantis a quality product. 500 miles is almost nothing for a high end scooter and for it to be loosening in such a significant way is a major issue for me. I DO NOT feel safe on this scooter. I shouldn't have to be popping the thing open to work on it after such a short amount of time. This is besides all the other issues that I listed in the video. Also, YOU not having the same issues with this scooter does not change my personal experience with the scooter. You can tell me a million times that you like the scooter and you won't change my opinion because I have my own personal experience with it. That is what MY channel is for: MY experience. I told my story about my issues with all the flat tires as a warning for my American viewers because Fluid Freeride is the main or only distributor here, and I want them to know that I did not get the correct innertube replacement from Fluid. If you have a place where you can quickly get quality innertubes for the Mantis, good for you. I have not had that experience though. Thanks for watching and supporting as always.

[@TheKingKurb]

I also had clamp that way round, I don't see why having it this way would make a difference...its looks better...although the stem did split the other week just above the clamp lol

[@Willy-qu9jh]

You should definitely replace the aluminum steering neck and the fork after that hard crash! Your scooter will not be safe to operate until you fix the crash damage. Something is obviously bent because of the lack of clearance at the front of the deck. It is way less than mine even when you flex it away.

[@owen_0791]

Would any of you recommend I buy the mantis mini, or is Kaaba a useless brand that builds low quality scooters?

[@Willy-qu9jh]

I really like my Mantis Pro and would certainly recommend it as a quality product. I also have had a great experience with FFR as a seller.

[@owen_0791]

What is Ffr, is it a brand or a reseller?

[@rarity2006]

I have a I Ninebot Max it's great very solid and dependable machine. I had my heart set on a Mantis but the hard truth and harsh reality of this video has changed my view. I appreciate this video for telling it like it is.

[@a.nevillechamberlain7612]

Thanks for your insight, you saved me a ton of head ache and grief. Great job

[@PhillyVape215]

thanks for being honest with your review. your experience is your experience and honesty goes a long way and could help someone in the future...keep up the good work

[@Superblood]

Been waiting for your next video! And have been looking at a Mantis because of you specifically. Thank you for this video!

[@CPA003]

Newer mantis is built with a forged single piece of aviation grade aluminum that stretches from the part that connects the deck to stem, to the rear kick plate. This insures the problem at 8:14 will never occur.

[@AldorCrap]

Where do you find this information? I've just got the Kaboo Skywalker 10c and some said it also had a similar issue due to its construction. Information about kaboo models are really difficult to find

[@spocksvulcanbrain]

Thank you for this follow up video. It's what we REALLY need. All the "wow, look at the new XXXXX model" are useless for determining the quality and longevity of a scooter. Only after being used for at least 3 to 4 hundred hours is a true review possible. Thank you for this. Great information.

[@sohaibmahagri5037]

That's why I like to listen to French and English reviewers they are much more critical of everything or long term reviews like you said are the best.

[@peter_ry]

Sooo happy I’m not the only one with all the mantis problems. I didn’t have the greatest of experiences with the distributor. I have the pro model and it is not any better. Thanks for this video.

[@bradleylappin6107]

Really it's supposed to be better

[@billgraybjj3514]

thank you for your honesty. I wont get on one of these. and omg what a pain with the tubes. Have a nice day.

[@hintzoner]

In a pinch you can use two ring spanners to bend a valve stem. Feed the two spanners over the stem and lever them against or away from one another.

[@bahkeru645]

Im own a mantis im currently 1 thousand kms. So far so good and here in the Philippines we are always given PMS and update parts for free.

[@jr8472]

yep but you paid over 2000$.it only cost 1600$ here. downside is it's illegal so no mechanics everywhere but to do it yourself.

[@bahkeru645]

@@jr8472 nope in the Philippines I only paid 1,300USD. we have 4 variations of Mantis. 2 of them are single motor, the other 2 are dual motor.

[@jessa.3857]

I knew something happened when we didn't hear from you and your Mantis vids for some time. My Mantis is doing fine for now but I do see low quality issues with mine. All scooters have issues though, even Dualtrons. Spend your money wisely folks!

[@jesusisoursavior2682]

thats why im saying xiaomi pro is best scooter in the world 😂✌️

[@Director-M]

@@jesusisoursavior2682 you're not wrong bro. I think your xiaomi is a similar build to my segway ninebot max G30 that was stolen. I replaced it with a Zero 9 and while it's faster, it doesn't inspire the same confidence the G30 did with it's rock solid build. Zero 9 has far too much stem wobble that messes with low speed stability when turning. Plus, I've seen a few pictures of the folding mechanism bending or snapping off entirely.. along with one picture of the whole rear suspension snapping off.

[@jesusisoursavior2682]

@@Director-M thats why i dont switch scooter im staying my xiaomi pro but u already upgraded with speed bat and range plus i put already front suspension. but still i have no problem on all parts.

[@nikostevens1]

True that. I have a Dualtron Mini. Which I love very much! Amazing scooter all together so fat but it came with an improperly alligned stem which meant that if I held me steering wheel straight, my wheel would be some degrees to the left. I had to drill the holes bigger and now it's perfectly alligned. Still... for a company that makes $8000 scooters, that is not ok.

[@nikostevens1]

@@jesusisoursavior2682 Besides 2 flats, no issues so far.

[@AX5Terminator]

What is your thoughts on the Mantis Pro SE from Voromotors? It looks like they are making a few upgrades that may fix some of these issues.

[@josephcolumbi2800]

thank you,,much thanks so what is the best scoter,,you think that can go above 40 and wont fall apart,,

[@phitrok7798]

Hello thanks for review i want to know if you have the v1 v2 or v3 of kaabo mantis is appreciated your answer!

[@Wangan_W]

Get a dualtron eagle pro or zero10x. As a Mantis owner, really saddens me to see all these issues. Such a fun machine but not worth the risk. I’m only at 200 miles with no major problems but only a matter of time. Thank you sharing this video, will educate riders on what to look out for. Ride safe!

[@rickyjoves9011]

How do you have the base model with the pro wheels version?

[@MarkBrown-gc6hr]

Thanks for a great review as I was looking at a Kaabo.

[@carlvu7]

I appreciate the honest feedback. What's going to consider buying the Mantis today. Keep up the good work you have a subscriber just for courage of speaking out the truth

[@vorrepetrykanov6313]

Scrapping the Mantis as a choice - very informative video - thank you!

[@pcxcado]

Thank you so much for this brilliant video.

[@tonymai1844]

thank you for honest review.

[@simonhorler5795]

Thank you for your good honest review.

[@MrRustyJames]

Eyes Opened! Thank for the great in-depth video. (New Subscriber)

[@-joo3033]

... There are bolts on the sides of the Deck, they become accesible once you remove the front "Bumper" ...if i ever encounter that stem "problem" ill tighten the bolts and also JB weld it together permanently

[@johnr2391]

Finally a real review. These top youtube guys get their scooters for free and every single scooter they review is "oh so good, best one yet, insane, crazy" yadda yadda. Complete bs. Thank you! Unfortunately I wish I saw this a week ago. I just got the mantis king gt, brand new the front tire won't hold air.

[@y.d.8117]

hello which one is better choice mantis pro or zero10x?thanks

[@JB8316]

Dude I got over 1200 miles on my mantis 10 and it's still going strong as ever.... battery hasn't lost any power and all I've had to do so far is replace my tires and brake pads... my brakes work beautifully.

[@SEGplus]

Do you use slime, or used it before for your tires? Have had the problem first time i got my Zero 9 and i used slime and it works wonders

[@2strokemopedlife459]

curious, can the mantis have solid tires? or is it to thicc?

[@PEVRidersClub]

Great informative video my PEV Riding Brother 😎👊🏾💯 Sorry to hear your Mantis. #Subscribed

[@notquiteright45014]

Very much appreciate the heads up. Thank you!!!

[@brianmcmanus4286]

Where can I get the accessory rack you have mounted on your handlebars in the cockpit area?

[@tinman3784]

Thanks for your honest opinion, I will cross this one off the list.

[@Juice_2288]

Thanks a lot for this review. I was actually considering the Mantis. I can't believe the poor design, engineering, and manufacturing of a $1600 scooter. Very disappointing.

[@sohaibmahagri5037]

Vsett 10+ is what I chose over the mantis pro for the same price in the country I reside in (Sweden) I had to go test the weight see see if I can lift it up (36 kg is no joke) turned out its possible for me to lift it and hold it so it was a no brainer just go for something reliable i swear even vsett have their problems but it's the best we have so far and it's issues can be easily addresses (fender extension, waterproofing for example )

[@Tific55]

509 miles is very new. That’s ridiculous. Thank you so much for this video. It helped a lot.

[@iwontreplybacklol7481]

For the price to mile ratio, you could have driven a Porsche for that much

[@jasonredpill7473]

I almost bought a Mantis Until I saw this. Thank you. I will be waiting until they fix this issue. Keep up the good work!

[@HusseinAbdirahman]

Have they fixed it?

[@jasonredpill7473]

@@HusseinAbdirahman no update

[@peterchoy528]

Thank you for an honest review.

[@FL-PHILLIP]

This was the Fluid Freeride version of the scooter correct? Im seriously considering the newer Kaabo Mantis 8.

[@ajjax89]

Appreciate this info.. I've been doing my research on e-scooters past 4 months and I was departing on mantis, vsette 10 or apollo touring..

[@lolosolodolo1]

Are these the same problems on the pro se? I’m looking at a used one and a decent price. Should I steer clear?

[@mattn5160]

Thank you for sharing all of this. I was going to go test ride a Mantis Pro today but after seeing this will be passing on Kaabo altogether.

[@OfficialHiddentest]

Do you recommend the Kaabo Wolf Warrior 11 or is that one a lie too?

[@pfg8800]

thank you so much for doing a review of the problems on this electric scooter I wanted to buy this electric scooter but changed my mind thank you so much you saved my money...

[@walidtlili7415]

Thqnk you very much for this review

[@NemoEUC]

I have a mantis pro and these are valid concerns. Thank you for bringing them to my attention. I'll keep an eye out for these issues. Its ridiculous that they are not selling the right part for their scooter on their own website and overcharging you as well. These are definetly manufacturing issues and they should replace the whole scooter especially now that you've attempted to fix them yourself. Thank you. I hope your replacement doesnt have the same issues.

[@tz-dp3ku]

Is the mantis pro worth it thinking of buyin it today? Wat sorta problems did u have?

[@samuelreis8370]

I had the same issue with my mantis, you can fix the shaking part by taking off the from covert where the light are and tightening the 4 screw on each side

[@stilqnsonev5942]

Hi! 🖐️ How did you managed the first problem, cause yesterday i got a second hand Kaabo Mantis 10 Pro + and i got the same problem, but only this time it's on the front motor.. The scooter is only at 370 km and the front motor i wobbling like a lot..

[@movingamerica5534]

Thanks for re review I am looking for scooter as a first time buyer thank you

[@Irresponsibleful]

How about bending the fing filling valve ?

[@carrickdubya4765]

The thing I love about this rant is very true - nobody does any follow up, sturdiness or longevity testing on any scooters. A consumer hands the seller a couple thousand or more dollars, then the companies change the models every 12-18 months. Dualtron for example has about a dozen different ones, they also have the Speedway models and now they carry the BlueTran models. Why in the world does a scooter company need so many models and who is going to keep track of their quality? In reality I only see room for maybe 5 speed versions of a scooter with interchangeable street and off-road tires included in the price: 0-15mph, up to 30, up to 45, up to 60, and then highway speeds 60 > 80+mph I would also make the scooters modular to change deck width, stem height and be able to install a reinforced bracket to mount a seat that sits back closer to the rear tire or add a basket to the same seat post. Dualtron is not alone in this hype driven platform so what I would like to see is longer warranties that I don't have to pay an extra $400-$600 for 3 years. If the product is good then I shouldn't have to pay extra to insure it and possibly get the run-a-round when I make a claim. Don't care if someone gets offended because if I'm paying thousands of dollars for a big battery and a few hundred dollars in parts that get imported and manufactured from overseas, I want to make sure it will last. These scooters are rated for people 220 to 350Lbs. so it should tested rigorously with the heaviest listed weight for at least 1,000 miles before bringing it to market. The electronics, brakes and other components should all be tested as well and have certificates like they do with other products costing thousands of dollars.

[@rexluminus9867]

Yes you're right.Industry level inspections & approvals is a must⚡⚠️💥

[@y.d.8117]

is this mantis pro or the regular model

[@ruberteric]

I'm confused, on the Kaabo websight, It states that the Mantis 8 comes with tubeless tires.

[@brolisimo]

Thanks for saving my nerves and money. I was just debating on buying Kaabo Mantis Lite. Not anymore

[@UFO4000]

wow thats shocking and dangerous , thank you so much for reviewing this , i have to say upgrading a e scooter is such a hard thing to choose from

[@cheleirvin4455]

Do you think the Mantis Pro SE Golden edition will have the same issue? I am thinking of purchasing the Varla Eagle one as well

[@battletoad01]

Yes mine did but I was given a free hub replacement. For the other issues check out the comment I just left on the main thread

[@antonymontana8436]

Thank's for telling us about all your problems with that scooter i wanted to buy one but now it's finish i bought an electric bycicle and much more happy with it and i have no problems to resolve . Ride safe

[@guillermopacheco5005]

I have a DualTron Spider and the kickstand came off also. However the bolts seem impossible to tighten there is no clearance there. I was going to buy a Mantis as a backup but i changed my mind and got an EtwoW as a back up

[@asherramaly2083]

Does the Apollo ghost have any of these problems?

[@dolebanana12]

hey man, i like the song you used in your intro at the 50 second mark, what was it my man? Thank you !

[@aquious953]

What do you think about the Apollo ghost 2022? Iv heard Apollo customer service is terrible.

[@ryeguy4132]

I was going to include a picture to help you out, sometimes thinking outside the box works best, especially different circumstances, in about 25 seconds on eBay, I found the same exact tire you and I have on the Mantis without air... Instead of a tube they have a softer compound foam that mimics a pneumatic tire, problem solved indefinitely for $30

[@alpacinox3671]

"Instead of a tube they have a softer compound " . Is it TUBLESS?

[@NoMoreLies365]

What version of mantis is this?

[@sebulbathx]

Thanks for the video! I was leaning heavy towards buying this scooter now I am not that sure anymore. Will keep researching alternatives.

[@errolljones8432]

Hey I'm looking at the Splash twin. I have the Hiboy s2 scooter very solid. Let me know if you know anyting betta and reliable 😊

[@highestvirtue1892]

Hi does the mantis king gt have these issues?

[@Scared0fW0menn]

thank you rk9! i was about to buy one but now i might just go with a kugoo

[@_zack_25]

was the bent back wheel problem ever resolved?

[@samgiamarelos4524]

Same size tubes with presta valve, ?

[@JhoEm]

Thank you for the info

[@Maj_Kasul]

Thank you 🙏

[@johnbonnell3473]

Where did you get your side mirror

[@tonygalnares8502]

what multi tool is that?

[@__Apa__007]

Thanks a lot man. And glad i came across your channel. I was about to order one. And it is true, spare parts distributors are important, that's why i am going for the Segway Ninebot max G30. A friend of mine who owns one, recommended this to me. That's why i think it would be wise for me to order one from a shop nearby who has all the parts instead of ordering a Mantis from China.

[@robertzacharias6815]

I was considering the Ninebot Max, the Apollo Ghost & the Mantis. No wonder the Mantis is now on sale @ Fluid website. Apparently it’s poor build quality.

[@vakasali5013]

Abit late now mate I bought it on your recommendation... the only problem I am having with my mantis pro is the deck wobble if you have found a way to fix that please do let us know.

[@RK9Rides]

Sorry about that, if the deck issue happened earlier I would have definitely updated you all. My plan is to release another update video with all my fixes in the near future

[@IvanKrakow]

what model is it?

[@jackdaniels2905]

What about using honeycomb tires?

[@Charlie-kw9jk]

Subbed and liked! Thanks for sharing!!

[@FlyWithMe_666]

Flat tires on a scooter are really a nigtmare. This was the reason why I sold my Xiamo 365 after only a few weeks, even though I really enjoyed riding it. Besides the inner tubes required, also the process of replacing them with these tiny wheels is pure torture.

[@NoProGoPronto]

@FlyWithMe666~ Go with the Ninebot Max. For me, that scooter is flawless.

[@Letheseus]

Silly for selling for that reason. I had four flats in the first 6 weeks. I now have mon-punture tyres and they are great. Three months in and no issues

[@ProPrince]

@@NoProGoPronto i want to get the max as an upgrade, but doesn't it use air tires? is it likely that they pop?

[@NoProGoPronto]

Prince L ~ Yes the Max tires are air filled, but they are also pre-slimed by the company and are self healing tires up to a 6mm puncture. I have about 300 miles on my Ninebot so far without any issues. I love it! Just be sure to keep the tires properly inflated. Especially the front. So far it’s holding up to these New York City streets.

[@ProPrince]

@@NoProGoPronto oh nice, then I'm 100% getting the max when I can. My current scooter can take me around campus and nearby places but it has a small range I only get 9 miles

[@BitterMunky]

Another great video and so sorry to hear the issues you're having. I'm up to 700 miles on my Mantis with no problems yet. Here's hoping that it stays that way. This is my third scooter and I had a similar issue with another brand and it just seemed like I got a lemon. I'm still loving the Mantis for the amazing way it rides. It's really early days for the scooter industry, so let's hope the general quality of products continues to improve as things get more mainstream. Love the channel as always...

[@ticoguy05]

Indeed. It depends on how you ride it. I saw people doing all sort of stuff on some scooters that really weren't made for all that.

[@paularnold3627]

Was going to get one. Not now. Thanks man

[@n.m.5335]

Your main issue is due to the bearings, change them and you will be fine.

[@husse843]

Yup

[@luisvaquero588]

Wait so what scooter should I get I don’t even know now !

[@movingamerica5534]

You can bend the valve for the tube I drive semi some times we have to bend valves to fit all the time

[@skeletronmw]

Are instructions for bending the stem given by the manufacturer/Fluid? Why would they send a defective part that needs to be bent to be used? Guarantee they won't replace it when you mess up and tear the tube.

[@dougtrav1]

Even if you bend it dosent fit

[@rexluminus9867]

@@skeletronmw Possibly those tubes were not ment to be on that wheel at all. Compare the new tube with the original one! Yes you can bend the valve. Make shure the valve is not rubbing in a wrong angle in the wheel.It can weaken valve & the rubbery part. Also the bent axel will vibrate the valve & the wheel thus rips it. Flats can you easily occur.

[@21dirtyj]

This is awesome Works great is it a store easy to clean

[@likits1999]

Im so glad I bought the Varla Eagle One!

[@isellcrack3537]

Does anyone have an idea if those issues were fixed on the Mantis King GT or if it has them as well?

[@ibluesman]

i had my first flat and innertubes for mantis pro are not available at fluid, after a couple tries and returns from amazon ,i found that you can get them on ebay and the same innertube for zero 10x ( cant remember the company name that sells zero 10x) ,they worked just fine.i have 300 miles on my scooter and the only problem i have had was my front brake caliper was leaking fluid since day one i had been riding with only rear brake, , fluid sent me a new one free of charge,nice to have both front and rear ,big difference, and since i was changing the rear i went ahead and switched to the off road tires, i was concerned that the clearance would be an issue , but they run just fine ,no issues at all.

[@aleckravt3848]

1. Did you try to bend the tire valve w pliers to the correct angle 2. For any loose parts you can try to weld them together. This is regarding the loose footboard

[@mrnobody2589]

I just purchased a mantis 10 duo V2. And they have fix the issues you are talking about.

[@ajm1686]

What about the Kaaba wolf worrier x pro is it any better or is this brand just bad quality

[@MoeReefs]

I had this scooter and it was great. Super fast. I only sold it because I felt I would be more comfortable on an ebike. Not going to get the same speed out of an ebike but will be way more super chill as 2000w scooters are like constantly being on a roller coaster. Fun for a bit but bound to be extremely dangerous over time.

[@zaire.mg.]

That's why I went with Zero 10X it had the most long term reviews and aftermarket support. I received it August 22nd and already have 834 miles and no mechanical issues. I'll be doing my 1000 mile review shortly on my channel.

[@alyviaveer8908]

Weight is a small favor but it ultimately comes down to build quality. The mantis is known to have problems with the stems breaking. It's pretty clear something eventually going to snap on this guy's scooter. Unless your riding the wolf warrior I'd stay away from Kaboo.

[@rexluminus9867]

@@alyviaveer8908 A clamp extension solves all that problem. Or a tripple clamp lock .Bingo.

[@tusharrkummar4755]

I have nanrobot d6+ and I can relate to him from the very first day I am having troubles with inner tubes. The replacement inner tubes are always 1 in small in width so it causes strain on the tube and it does not last long. Not sure where we can get the correct inner tubes or is it just a monopoly in China 🙄

[@treysanders4509]

I’m having the same issue with my mantis 8 with the base of the deck. Kaabo keeps saying it’s the stem. I sent them a video and it’s taking forever to deal with this issue.

[@Vhangy812]

Sorry to hear all your trouble with your mantis scooter. I've noticed your wheels are the pro version but it a base model. I'm confused! Also, you said you no longer recommend the scooter and removed all links. but you are still getting a replacement of the same brand. Please explain. What a mix message.

[@RK9Rides]

Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm not getting another Mantis, I'm getting a scooter from a different brand that is similar to the Mantis.

[@TioWOO]

Thanks for the info bro, I almost bought it

[@codezalo5773]

Yo you inspired me to make a couple videos as well although couldnt commit to keeping it, the rear hub i guess( i thought it was the bent rotor) I couldnt reach top speed unless going downhill , Im happy to send you an extra tube I had spare from my 2 experienced flats. For other commenters theres an Apollo brand or name of Scooter that looks almost the same but has had much better reception in terms of rigidness but i would recommend others to look for content and unfortunately some one has to be the reviewer of a long time reviews.

[@corwinmorton7150]

thank you for making this video! i have been saving for a few months now and was going to get a mantis, thanks for the honest in depth video! keep up the good content

[@daledunbar5656]

I subscribed in hope of seeing a dualtron eagle pro 500 mile review someday.

[@aquious953]

Why didn't you get it fixed under warranty. The hub problem would have neen covered