My MOST DISAPPOINTING Game Console - This thing SUCKS!!

Usually I can find something positive to say about most gaming consoles and systems, even when they are really old and quirky... But then there are some...that are just BAD and POORLY designed. Here is my most disappointing game console in my collection. sigh
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[@DarthChrisB]

The phone buttons on the controller are so you can immediately order a replacement.

[@GamePlaythroughsX]

Speaker Sex that’s.. not even close to the same joke..

[@wasjust4fun282]

Lol

[@MattCrafter]

Good one

[@shinosukenohara5721]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@ShantKeshishian]

I just spit out my mtn dew lol

[@MetalJesusRocks]

People say I raise prices of retro games? This video should do the *opposite!* LOL

[@mitchmayes5760]

MetalJesusRocks i kid you not. Im clear across the country in PA and the guy at my local store blames you and reggie for klonoa skyrocketing in price and rarity

[@Englebert3rd]

Mitch Mayes just call everything a hidden gen and you'll see any prices skyrocket

[@shihang2992]

To be honest ...thanks to you the prices are going up...i ask a few people selling retro-games ..why are they selling them very expensive and they say a guy in KZbin called metal Jesus is telling them .

[@eliel1815shadow]

maybe, i mean, you say wich games are rarest and funner and sellers raise their price just becasue of that

[@retrovisions_]

MJR, I think your videos sometimes raises prices but for the most common sense reason. how many viewers + popular systems being talked about in many cases + good games that people want to play = more of a demand and that usually on ebay turns into more bids and higher prices. Sure your video brought those people into the fold for wanting it but honestly is it bad that you bring good games we might be interested to the front? I think not. DMP did an I hate you video with you with some super famicom puzzle game. Took me months to find the name and then had to wait 6 months for the price to come back down from 60.00 to 15.00 . I assume that your video had something to do with the fact it brought a fun puzzle game to light and people just wanted to play it. But 6 months later prices came back down and I got myself a copy. But to say your raising prices ( in a selfish hateful way) i think is not fair to you. but nothing more than more gamers interested in trying fun games that they have now discovered.

[@edwardweaver6360]

When the 5200 first came out i couldn't wait to get one, two months later, i couldn't wait to get rid of it, yes, because of the controllers.

[@ericwood2790]

Edward weaver yeah it was impossible to play Pac-Man on . But it looked good though

[@scarosone14]

I would say the Atari Jaguar. There weren't many games for it and most were mediocre. The controller was really fat and the CD add on was the biggest waste of money I ever spent. I sold it and got a Dreamcast.

[@halo3odst]

Love the dreamcast man (my favorite system, but the jaguar isnt that bad. I will agree that it doesnt have a lot of games though.

[@RepublicofODLUM]

@Requiem Sequence whenever i see the word dreamcast it always plays out in my mind as cartmans "sega dreeeeeeaaamcast" thought id share that, cheers

[@dionr1168]

I have a cousin who was so much of an Atari fanboy at the time that he actually fell for that 64 bit marketing gimmick.

[@sjwilson1079]

scarosone14 dude, Theme park was good, avp on jaguar, primal rage, come on man

[@scarosone14]

@@sjwilson1079 not saying it was a bad system but it was disappointing. It was hyped as a 64 but system and not many developers utilize its power. Games were few and far between as well. There were good games on it but they were few and. For every AvP, Tempest 2000 and Doom. You had Club Drive, Checkered Flag, Trevor Mcfur, Kasumi Ninja, Troy Aikman Football.

[@masturdate]

Metal Jesus's the kind of guy who has eleven broken Atari 5200 controllers.

[@MetalJesusRocks]

I found even more in another box. LOL!!

[@Stratocast]

MetalJesusRocks they do make new parts that fix alot of the issues with the buttons and you can find them completed on eBay for around $40

[@linkplays95]

The other Atari game consoles were disappointing right after 2600

[@taylorkichu4683]

@@linkplays95 honestly 7800 and Jaguar are pretty good. 5200 however, is trash. The lynx is also fun.

[@linkplays95]

@@taylorkichu4683 Jaguar was a disgrace and 7800 was just nasty. The lynx oh god they didn't know how to make a backlit screen perfect. Now the 5200 was just trash.

[@coyote1337]

I love the english word "mushy" - you pronounce it the same way a "Muschi" in german which is a word for vagina :D

[@eksmad]

Genau mein Gedanke, haha. :D

[@captaincrazy5075]

Ich hab gehofft, dass ich beim Runterscrollen einen deutschen Kommentar dazu finde; Bingo! :D

[@euroretrogamer204]

Well.. we Dutch get triggered with your 'geil' which is 'horny' in Dutch haha

[@captaincrazy5075]

@ Euro Retro Gamer: "Geil" could mean "horny" here in austria or in germany too(geil sein...to be horny) :p

[@coyote1337]

"geil" also is also "horny" in german ;)

[@murdaman702]

I remember when I was a kid going to a neighbor's house to play this and thought he just didn't take care of his system and thought that's why his controllers were messed up I didn't know they actually came like that until now LOL

[@Movie_Games]

Most disappointing console was the Xbox One. I'm a PC gamer, but I got an Xbox360 because everyone had one. Then the PS4 came out and everyone jumped over. Hoping everyone jumps back over with the new Xbox. Sony is so anti-consumer I cant support them.

[@penatio]

I'm looking to get XOne. Better controllers + backwards compatability (and even with the new controllers).

[@dr.rotwang]

My most disappointing game console is the Atari Jaguar. Sad small collection of games, possibly the worst controller design ever, I mean who still puts a number pad on a controller, poor graphics despite the hype, zero 3rd party support and so on. A complete dumpster fire from day one.

[@abooogeek]

But AVP was damn cool on that one!

[@GregsGameRoom]

It had some good games for it though. Some tweaks and it could have been great

[@tron1178]

Never owned one but thought I should years later as I was curious

[@andreasnagel9377]

i like the Jaguar the number pad is really good for adding hotkey (weapon select, map display etc ).

[@Overdose140]

The 5200 is my favorite system. The controllers did originally suck, however with the Best Electronics Gold buttons and Silver flex Circuit board it is fantastic. The buttons always work and they work very well. Better than when new.

[@aarongreenfield9038]

Yeah, but it would be hard to beat someone to death with the switch!

[@wayneking5114]

I'd certainly give it a go on you if you want me to try. :-)

[@lennywright5655]

Aaron Greenfield It might help if you bring the Dock, plus it's easier to carry :D

[@Kalvinjj]

granted, I think it would also give you less of a rage fit that leads to it

[@Schimnesthai]

The Game.com is for that.

[@marcinostrowski2378]

classic game room reference, clever ;) but better is fatality by arcade.

[@SpicyDragonWings]

Designer: "So what kind of buttons do we want on the controller?" Developer: "Mushy." Designer: "I'm sorry, what?" Developer: "I SAID MUSHY DAMN IT!"

[@allahspreadshate6486]

Most disappointing for me? Amiga CD 32. Most impressed by? Original PlayStation and PSP.

[@JaycRam]

But it's got that cool compartment to hold your Rolling Rock.

[@kylespencer4850]

JayRam Ah, I See You're a Man of Culture As Well

[@waluigi1208]

Yessssssss

[@shagnastyfo20]

Best comment award

[@luuttusoolo]

That's one of the only upsides of the console

[@pejnismiggle]

Ah FUCK! Well, almost.

[@johnhancockretro]

Definitely worst controller design! There are multi-carts made for the 5200 so you can enjoy many ports and home brews. Also important to note that the 4 port had a terrible RF/power combo that sparked when you plugged it in. Get a 2 port console and controller adapter if you want to enjoy the console. Otherwise, play on the 8-bit Atari Computer line and say goodbye to the console.

[@MetalJesusRocks]

The Immortal..has spoken! :)

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

I'm inclined to say that the Nintendo 64 controller comes damn close. The action buttons were fine and good, as was the dpad. However, the overwhelming emphasis on the analog stick, combined with the terrible analog stick design, and I've had more first party controllers destroyed or unusable than any other system I've personally owned. Yes, there is now a mod to implement the superior GameCube stick on a 64 controller; however, i never knew, nor had the means to implement, this mod then.

[@Schimnesthai]

Jorge Ramos... cumpa, estas lejos de la verdad. MJR, i thought the Game.com was going to be your most disapointing but then i realized that it's hard to be disapointed in something that no one has fate in.

[@brudog56]

John Hancock - YES! I remember my dad being so confounded by that RF/Power combo box. He HATED setting it up for me. When we finally got an NES, we couldn’t believe how simple it was to connect! LOL

[@retrovisions_]

I agree with John here. Ive always been an 8 bit Atari computer guy since my first one in 1987. BUT there is a trade off to keep in mind, Game prices for the Atari 8 bit computers are much higher in cartridge form. Having a disk drive option does lower the prices on some games like Pathfinder which on disk is a 20.00 game on ebay vs a cart version that starts easily in the $100 to 150 range. Other downside is no Atari 2600 compatibility. Which would be cool if looking back in the retro scene if there was an addon that could allow a 800 or XE system to play 2600 carts. But the price for carts and lack of 2600 playability is the only downsides I see to going that route. Ive been at collecting for the Atari 8 bit computers for 20+ years now and collecting on a budget has been a real challenge but slowly closing in 250 carts.

[@uncannyx]

To all these people in the comments.... Most disappointing console doesn't mean worst console. Disappointing means you had expectations, you knew about it, and you expected something good. How can the Tiger GameCom disappoint you? You most likely knew it was trash when you first heard of it ... you had high expectations? I don't think so. --- For example, The most disappointing for me in recent years is the Wii U, because Nintendo gave up on it so quickly, a lot of the promised games never happened or just got delayed and ended up on the Switch

[@Cole-ek7fh]

Uncanny X-Clan to you: you are a crazy person and require pills or booze because NOBODY FUCKING CARES. thank you.

[@Sinn0100]

Uncanny X-Clan People seem to lack comprehension these days. I posted my thoughts on both the Sega CD (I know it is an add-on but was treated like a new console in it's day) and the 3do. I was so excited about the possibilities and wound up shaking my head, disappointed by all the wasted opportunity.

[@dragonrider0601]

E.T. 2600 was a MASSIVE disappointment, because people actually had so much hype for it when they saw the film, they had high hopes for the game and expected it to stand out in an oversaturated market. The game failed, people had enough, and the game industry crashed in 1983.

[@kevischnei]

Both E.T. And Mighty No. 9 are highly deserving of their labels of being disappointments. E.T. for its time, was Definitely a disappointment. Mighty No. 9 as well, No Man's Sky... Yep. Nuts.

[@bobbrown536]

two catridge slots was great. I try to look at the upside

[@wren9713]

AVGN warned me about this oversized turd

[@linkplays95]

Me too. C O M R A D E

[@Nickersons-Theme]

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

[@athyrus0190]

WHAT PIECE OF SHITFUCK

[@linkplays95]

@@athyrus0190 ummm the Atari 5200 dumb ass.

[@Calz-hi3cn]

What a sh*t load of f*ck Quote by the avgn

[@hairoftehdog]

The controller problems are caused by contact oxidation. You can get them to work by taking them apart and cleaning the contacts with rubbing alcohol. When storing the controller, put it in a ziplock bag with a silica pack.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

you shouldnt have to go through all that just to keep them functioning, that is bullshit...

[@datguy9408]

To fix controller issues I use a q-tip and very small amounts of rubbing alcohol. Works like a charm!

[@johnroe3915]

bwhahahahaha... Keep them in a zip lock bag...? WTF

[@daishi5571]

Alcohol is a reasonable all-round cleaner but it's not very useful with oxidization, so unless you scrub like crazy (not a good idea) you will need to clean the contacts again far too soon. Use DeoxIT D5S-6 which will remove the oxidization and protect the contact once cleaned. As for the carbon pads, use either distilled water or alcohol and a lint-free cloth (or coffee filter) to clean and if you want it to last longer use DeoxIT Fader on the carbon contacts. Just make sure it's completely dry before reassembly. My understanding is Windex and it's many knock off's are ammonia based and are an alkaline so should not be used (also some have additives which could be left behind). Edit - Added the DeoxIT type "D5S-6" and DeoxIT Fader.

[@user-jh1jj9rj3g]

Windex is almost as bad from what i remember, try high content isopropyl alcohol. More than 90% usually. But yeah, never rubbing alcohol. Too much water.

[@daymondcain2903]

I remember selling my 2600 and about 30 games to "upgrade" to the 5200...Popped in Kangaroo, and man.....was I having buyers remorse...The only thing that saved it was Countermeasure and later Centipede with the Trackball for me. I quit video games until the Sega Genesis came out because of this system. Ironically I ended up buying it again about 15 years ago...and sold it again. I do miss Countermeasure though...

[@mackinblack]

*LOVE THE OPETH POSTER IN THE BACK!*

[@joecontrino85]

Ummm... The Ghost t-shirt?

[@pedrochevez2090]

Most disappointing console for me? The PS Vita. I was hyped up, even bought mine on launch day with several launch titles. Little did i know that those were mainly the only good games to come for it (except for Gravity Rush and Tearaway that came out later). I had such high hopes for it but ended up mainly playing indie games on it and i eventually stopped playing with it altogether close to 5 years ago. A damn shame for a robust little handheld that was built extremely well and had some cool features. The only console to remedy that initial feeling i had for the Vita is the Switch and as of yet it has not disappointed.

[@ShuriBear]

Most disappointing console must be the HyperScan. The idea to use cards for upgrades is actually cool, but the controls and the insane loading times (which you wouldn't expect of a console with the name "Hyper" in it. ) kills the console. Also there weren't that many games for it, which obviously is also unacceptable.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

now there's a piece of shit for ya, the Hyperscan was like infusing a trading card game with a gaming console.

[@Gold171]

Agreed. It was 16 bit too. But in the 2000’s? The genesis and snes filled in that space years prior.

[@ShuriBear]

Dylan Neese 2003/2004 iirc. So the ps1 was already on the market.

[@knickabob6327]

The 5200 was a different system. The size was to allow controller storage, but what makes the system vastly superior to the 7800 is the audio processor. The 5200 is an Atari 800 consolized, but the 7800 is the 5200 with the 2600 audio processor. The joysticks were designed the way they were because they were hoping to do more with them. Tempest on the 5200 is amazing and it would have sold like crazy if it had been released. Rebuilding a 5200 controller is easy and worth the effort for some of the exclusives, like Space Dungeon. Maybe you should take a harder look at the system's library, as well as the unreleased titles that are now available through the homebrew channels.

[@DarDarBinks1986]

Not just controller storage. Holding a beer, too, as the Angry Video Game Nerd proved.

[@Mike-nf6nf]

The Sega Game Gear Micro isn't exactly winning the hearts and minds of gamers.

[@zyriuz2]

Yeah why make a rather small console even smaller??? Lmao they should have made an 8 bit system handheld that comes with mastersystem and game gear games 👍

[@lukaspadilla749]

Just started watching your videos the other day and I’m loving every single video you’ve posted. My collection is nice but Jesus lol it’s no where near as nice as yours. I’m 22 tho and have many more years and more money to get mine to where yours is. Love your room and collection man!

[@EposVox]

My right ear is lonely in this video.

[@Hevii]

You truly are everywhere, brother.

[@EposVox]

Indeed!

[@chocolatewheelchair]

Sad

[@johnnycage3673]

then turn around and watch again

[@akpokemon]

sassy

[@MrBoy-qj3bs]

I agree that the controller sucks, but in all fairness, the vast majority of issues can be fixed by opening the shell and erasing the oxidation from the contacts on the membrane flex circuit. It's a pain in the ass, but it works for me. I can at least appreciate what Atari *tried* to accomplish the 5200 controller. Here was a 360-degree analog joystick in 1982! Pretty forward thinking! It was also one of the first consoles, if not the first, to include a pause button, much less one on the controller itself. Had they executed the controller better, I think the 5200 would have been much more successful and highly regarded.

[@edgesdragon888]

Mr. Boy That's a good way to clean a ColecoVision controller, too.

[@hawkflame9584]

For me, the Nintendo 64. I was so excited for it after growing up on the NES and the SNES, and of course I picked it up during its launch year. But once I got past the amazing first party games I noticed the selection was rather thin. Also the controller, as innovative as it was, was poorly laid out. Not a bad console, but not well supported by developers outside of Nintendo and Rare

[@Monkforilla]

Has some timeless hidden gems tho

[@Mishkobt]

Yeah but it’s a lot of rare and first party games tbh

[@RetroVisionist]

There are plenty of good games made for the N64 outside of Nintendo and Rare. This is a misconception made purely out of ignorance. Acclaim Studios, AKI, Eurocom, HAL Laboratory, Hudson Soft, LucasArts, Camelot, Konami, etc...more then pulled their weight collectively for the system.

[@CMDRFlyAuburn]

This was my first game console. So suck or not, it was awesome to me. I remember playing Star Raiders with my Dad. It was the first and last console game he was excited about. All my friends had the 2600 and they were envious.

[@Amishmediagroup]

They don't work because the board oxidizes incredibly quickly. It's a relatively easy fix.

[@stereo8980]

The problem is that you need to fix this on a ridiculously regular basis. Many of the flexboards become disfunctional because of oxidation over the span of a WEEK. I like the 5200, even tough I don't directly own one (a friend of mine does). It's version of centipede is as close as it gets to the Arcade. The problem is that it's a console that is just not functional without PERMANENT repair and cleaning.

[@sparticus214]

The Icystorm 9 The fix is a hammer

[@ThatBaldGamer]

If you want me to be really honest? Mine was probably the Wii U. I owned my Wii U for 2 years while it collected dust before selling it eventually. Meanwhile, I've only had the Switch for a couple of months, and already own more games for it than I did the Wii U. That's just me though.

[@zaytele5094]

That Bald Gamer mines collecting dust too. The only game i play is Botw and thats quite rare

[@ThatBaldGamer]

Yeah. I wanted so much to like it and kept holding out for something to pull me in, but I was so unimpressed by Mario Party 10 I gave up on it. I probably would have enjoyed Splatoon, but by then it was too late. :(

[@SniffelDK]

Same here 👆🏼

[@kwedl]

I'm glad i bought the WiiU a few years later when you could do all sort of things with it, now it can basicly play NES, SNES; N64, DS, GC, WII and WIIU games even on the gamepad. Fans are doing some crazy things to it.

[@ThatBaldGamer]

Yeah I have no doubt it's holding up very well now, especially with it's Virtual Console capabilities, but at launch, I probably would have been better off waiting. :)

[@americanbadass88]

Mine was the Nintendo 64 i wanted it for Christmas when i was 13 got it than realized the games were EXPENSIVE and never dropped in price vs PS1 games. if it wasn't for Goldeneye i would have traded the system pretty quick. i still own it but its buried deep in my closet. i still have no idea why the N64 is held in such high regard. games are still upwards of 30 friggin bux and up. never got the hype and still don't. haven't owned a Nintendo system since.

[@OrkishEngineering]

Some games are actually a pretty amazing. Namely zelda( both ) , Mario 64, starfox 64, etc.

[@obeysquirrel]

How much were the games back then?

[@TheJoejoez]

After N64/GC... I was very sour on Nintendo... I did get a Wii for the VC aspect, and the NES mini and SNES mini... not sure those count though :)

[@PoutingTrevor]

The AVGN episode on the 5200 is one of my favourites. He couldn't play the games because the controllers don't work so he had to find another way of making it entertaining

[@OldSchoolNYCGamer]

It is a fairly easy fix with the controllers, cleaning the contacts and re-aligning the controller itself. All that is needed a pencil eraser and a phillips head screwdriver. Plus there are resources where you can get new membrane boards for the controllers themselves.

[@nostalgicforthe70s18]

Thanks from the Atari 5200 Podcast.

[@Bing147]

Love my 5200. Mainly because the trackball is awesome

[@furrynick1]

Is between Atari Jaguar and the Virtual-boy. The quality of the games for the Atari Jaguar were like 2 out 10 in the quality department. The Virtual- boy didn't have probably more than 6 or 10 games for the consoles entire short existence. Very disappointing of those two and yes i still have both consoles.

[@sreeff4816]

The microvision! I was so hyped when I got it from my Dad, the world's first handheld video game system. And it never worked!

[@marcelofrau8818]

OUYA was my most disappointing console..

[@thewolfwarrior9430]

Marcelo Frau what about popstation?

[@YeahResident]

Not as bad as Nuon or Apple Pippin

[@Cose2Cose]

That shouldn't couldn't count as a console. It didn't have it's own games but yeah it sucked hard.

[@patrickm2912]

Ouya was a cash grab that I saw coming a mile away after I watched the interviews with the CEO

[@JohnnyRamirez86]

Yeah ouya sucked but the tiger games are horrible lol

[@xeddenvonvictor9238]

Getting a Gameboy Advance after using a Gameboy Advance SP.

[@ynk1121]

I thought so too until doing the SP screen mod on the original Advance. Now I like the original better than the SP. I find it more comfortable to hold.

[@xeddenvonvictor9238]

ynk1121 I would agree that the original is more comfortable to hold. I tried to mod mine but I bought the wrong screen. Never got around to getting the right one.

[@ImTheBatchMan]

Getting a Gameboy Advance after using a Switch. Worst purchase of my life. There's not even 3D on it. WTF Nintedont, am i right?

[@akpokemon]

^ you tried.

[@SuburbaniteUrbanite]

May i remind you all that this is the same man that criticized that GameCube hdmi adaptor for “breaking” his GameCube even though his drunk sister, whoever she is, knocked it off its tall perch.

[@Monsterdrumma]

See I am different then everyone it seems, I totally love the smooth feel of the non centering joystick and this is my favorite feeling controller ever! The problem is yes they do break and I just bought a new used one that worked perfectly and the next day boom it didn't work. I love my old games such as Popeye, kangaroo, moon patrol etc.!

[@M-NX]

thats not a WICO , it's a Competition Pro...

[@MetalJesusRocks]

Yep! You're right. My mistake.

[@M-NX]

MetalJesusRocks could happen 😉😉😉 but the WICO Sticks were absolut killer back in the day. I liked the top button to fire...🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@ThomasConnolly]

My most hated gaming devise of all time is the "R-Zone Super Screen" handheld. It used rear projection, was red and black like the Virtual Boy and very huge/bulky in hand. Total piece of crap!!!!

[@dmace81]

Thomas Connolly That's so funny I've been saying that on here too. Lol

[@ThomasConnolly]

I'd rather play Castlvania 2 Simon's Quest, the Tiger Electric handheld version instead of playing the R-Zone Super Screen!!!

[@markstahl1464]

I have a Best Electronics gold contact joystick. All I had to do was send in an intact yet non-fuctional joystick and $60 (when you account for shipping), and it was WORTH IT! It came back to me with tactile fire buttons, and gold contacts and dots that will never corrode. I would say that at least 80% of the 25 games I own for the SuperSystem play extremely well on the joystick. You're right about one thing; developers DID successfully design their games around the joystick. I would concede that a couple of developers failed to implement the joystick design properly, but this is not a knock against the joystick in my opinion. Also, the ergonomics of this joystick are WAY better than the 7800 abomination. I can't even believe what I'm hearing. I'm thinking you've got to be kidding. I could have sworn I saw a video where you said you liked this console. The SuperSystem is so cool; truly innovative and historic. I adore it!!!

[@aegonthedragon7303]

The thing about the 5200 controller is that it’s essentially a prototype that was never fine tuned. The materials on the conductive pads in the rev7 circuits get oxidized overtime and thus it stops working. IPA or windex cleans it but you gotta do it basically every month. There are kits to replace the buttons with better ones too (they have 3 little pads instead of one) and even gold plated circuits but they can wear out. Best to get an adapter and use a vcs joystick.

[@socrates0603]

I'm not going to knock the 5200 for the size. VCRs during those days were about that size so while the size may appear big today, it wasn't a problem back in the early 80s. Coming from the 2600, the 5200 represented a huge leap in design aesthetics if nothing else.

[@sparticus214]

Socrates63 in the day you wanted the biggest piece of junk possible because it was a sing of dominance .

[@eriksojka8358]

I love my Atari 5200. Have an after market controller. At the time the graphics were leaps and bounds over the 2600. That's why I got one back in the 80s.by the way 2600+5200=7800. And the 5200 is basically an Atari 400 without keyboard

[@wilrivera2668]

... I loved my 5200 in high school. Yes, the controllers broke ALL the time. The area where the joystick sat would develop a bump in the inside. The buttons were very difficult to press. Still, I dug my system massively.

[@elian958]

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!

[@perrub]

Wow didn't know the Atari 5200 was that bad. Great vid.

[@shaneohara201]

Pedro Soares learn how to spell Bud...

[@shaneohara201]

K is silent

[@eksmad]

You should watch the angry video game nerd videos. ;)

[@perrub]

Shane O'Hara, done.

[@jlebrech]

ouya?

[@MetalJesusRocks]

I'll never forget John Hancock trying to demo the Ouya for the first time...and he was having difficulty getting anything to work. Didn't make the best impression...

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

It's an Android microconsole, which means the best it can get are freemium trash on google play, if not a bunch of toxic stuff that won't work since they expect a touch screen you likely won't have. What did you expect?

[@MoonsideResident]

I don't know, I used it quite successfully as an emulator box until I upgraded to a Nvidia Shield TV. It played everything up to PSX pretty much flawlessly (even a particular DS emulator runs well on it). It's also the only microconsole I've seen that can use PS3 controllers natively (i.e. without needing to root it and download an app). It did have some problems though and the controller it comes with is shit, imo.

[@sickstories7902]

"The only way to play Atari is on an old piece of shit like that" - AVGN 😂

[@jollywankerproductions774]

I went and bought a masterplay 5200 interface and am waiting in the mail for a speed link competition pro joystick which I hope will make the controls nice and fluid....Do you have the trakball controller? I hear it with missile command is a good experience, waiting for one of those from ebay too..All I know is the add ons have cost me more than the system!...but something about those 2nd generation systems are compelling.. All I know is until I got the super action controller, I wasnt digging my colecovision as much as I do now!

[@g1nobleteam]

More of a personal nitpick, but any non backlit handheld system is just hard to go back to me.

[@Klonoahedgehog]

g1nobleteam Oh totally

[@oscarruda7200]

g1nobleteam. picky. If it means that much to you just mod it.

[@mikeoxlong567]

yeah especially since the gameboy sp can play any gameboy game

[@Kalvinjj]

about the SP: well that's true with few exceptions like the motion sensing cartridges that require the top slot and have no reversing on settings. BUT: I have an AGS 101 here to say it: some games look pretty disgusting on it's over saturated screen. It sure is an epic advantage to have a back light on the dark, but the over saturation makes Advance Wars for example look like a complete color vomit. Even the GBC version of Donkey Kong Country looks way off. Heck old Game boy Tetris looks weird on it. On the AGS 001 and original GBA it looks great, just colorful enough and nothing weird unbalanced. That and direct sunlight visibility (as I play it a lot on a bus trip when light shines straight on the screen) makes the AGS-001 my choice, contrary to what most people would. Some newer GBA games make use of the more saturated colors and either tone the colors down (looking just a bit washed out on the older GBA and SP), or have 2 profiles for the older ones and the AGS-101. Would the 101 have less saturation and a bit better direct sunlight visibility it would be undisputed king screen wise at least

[@g1nobleteam]

Da_Lenster03MC Nah I'm good as the Sp is pretty much my Gameboy machine alongside the Super Gameboy.

[@GameHammerCG]

Surely someone by now has built an arcade stick for the 5200 that includes a set of the ridiculous phone handset buttons? Surely?

[@warmfreeze]

try the jaguar power pad.... it isnt a stick ..but eh..

[@GameHammerCG]

Any port in a storm.

[@TheClassicGamefan]

Yes there was one avialable through AtariAge forums for quite some time. "grips" was the guy who made them. Around $70-100 iirc. Of coure they don't work on the handful of games which require analog control.

[@uselessDM]

Reminds me of the AVGN video where he orders a bunch on ebay and they are all frauds basically. But that video is so old by now, maybe someone has done it. But I think the problem is the special connector the 5200 uses, it's different from the 2600/Genesis plug and I think only some obscure computers also use this plug, so the market is pretty small if someone wanted to make a controller.

[@miss_inputs]

I guess the problem is that the games aren't great either, so nobody cares enough to go through the effort of making one.

[@pauldavis5665]

For me it was the Nintendo Virtual Boy. I remember getting it as a kid and expected a cool virtual reality experience and instead just ended up with eye strain, a headache, and seeing nothing but red for hours after playing it. lol

[@danielmihalko9058]

Vita for me, those damn memory cards and the eventual lack of first party support really put a damper on what was an otherwise amazing system.

[@penguinjay]

I hear it is better for modding anyway, putting a form of BAED on there and having about 6 consoles worth of library and 800 games is fairly easy. Some of these old titles even support multiplayer through local wifi, so you can play w friends on some of the old classics, might even be able to go 4 player on some of the multitap titles. Loss of first party support says it all though, and the marketing always seemed like it was based around some big lie where you could literally take your home console games on the road, more like cast to the bathroom.

[@neoprime33]

The 5200 was the only system I got to play while all my friends got NES'. Why? Because my dad bought all the 5200's he found at garage sales. Yeah, I wanted a Nintendo, but, I didn't mind the 5200 either. My favorite games were Star Raiders, Qix and River Raid. Honorable mentions: Pole Position and Football.

[@TheRosswise]

Mine is the launch 360. Too many reliability issues. Luckily Microsoft eventually fixed the RROD issues and the 360 was an amazing console after that. I had managed to get a Jasper unit that is still functioning, with a later-model Intercooler that has its own wall plug. They are both still kicking. Along with my two slim 360s.

[@rolandmendozain]

plot twist: he really loves it

[@markstahl1464]

Yeah, I could have sworn that I watched a video where he was talking up this system. Maybe I'm trippin'.

[@immortalsofar5314]

Grew up in the '70s, loved technology, loved electronics, never even *wanted* a console. The first affordable home computer (the ZX80) didn't emerge for years after the Atari 2600 but I just didn't see the point of a computer that could only do what someone else had told it to. When I could finally afford a C64, I played a few games (I preferred adventures) but mainly I coded on it. Writing and debugging assembler was far more fun than playing the finished result.

[@Mikeuh-56]

Cick the video expecting the "ouya".

[@MistaTofMaine]

Xbox One is to Xbox 360 what the Atari 5200 is to the Atari 2600

[@BlendingWithHenry]

Firstly, I'm an Atari 5200 enthusiast and you're 100% spot on with everything you said. I went through 4 controller replacements until I gave up. The non-centering joystick was bad enough but the rubber boot kept tearing and I've always been a modest gamer so I was never hard on the controllers. They just broke easily.

[@acereport8939]

When my Atari 2600 broke, my dad took me to the store to get a new one and we saw the Atari 7800 and NES on sale. I wasn’t familiar with Nintendo at the time and I really just wanted to play my old 2600 games, so, we got the 7800. I kept going back to the store to see all the new 7800 games but the library never really expanded like the NES which started to develop a large catalogue of games. I felt like I made the wrong choice. With practically no new games for my “new” system, I had to get a NES. Fast forward a few years and it’s the Sega Genesis and the Turbo Graphics 16 which are “new” consoles. I picked up a Turbo Graphics 16 and instantly began having buyers remorse. I didn’t want to end up with a game system and no games AGAIN, so, I decided to return it for a Genesis. Turns out that I was right this time around. The Sega Genesis got a bunch of games while the TG16 only got a few. If it only had a bunch of games, I would have kept it because I liked it better and was not a fan of the Genesis, especially, after the SNES launched.

[@RosscoSoletrain]

Always waited until a system was killin the game before I grabbed it so I’ve never been disappointed thankfully!

[@drebone1986]

lucky must be born after 95 or later to have all this prior knowledge cause us 80's kids were blind

[@MrMegaManFan]

Ahh dude. Duuuuude. I still love you so I can't thumbs down this video but as a fellow AtariAge member this one breaks my heart. I cherish my 5200. It's not perfect but there are adapters for using different controllers so there's not "nothing you can do about it," many of the games are great ports from the 800, and the "hugeness" is part of the charm. I'm just disappointed you think this was a disappointing system. The games were a massive upgrade from the quality of the Atari 2600 line as was the processing power. This was one of the first game sets I completed and still one of my favorites. If you want to talk about a disappointing console I'd talk about the Wii U (and I love that but let's be real).

[@greggeshelman]

Actually the 5200 is more of a stripped down Atari 400 computer.

[@burntvirtue]

He didn't ask about "one of" the most disappointing consoles, he asked what was THE MOST disappoint console.

[@supertotoro]

Omg Ghost T-shirt and the Opeth poster is still up as well! Much love from Sweden~! 🇸🇪

[@luis2626]

The 3DO, still feel sorry for the person I sold it to.

[@ViciousAlienKlown]

luis2626 The 3DO was a good system and another level compared to the 32X and the CDi.

[@tommytuckersgoldencrown2505]

luis2626 the 90's good shit...I got one just for the Street Fighter...it was sick...but that was it...I felt the same...I always felt it was ahead of its time that's all, like having a phone with caller ID but not actually having caller ID...

[@skillz_311]

are you out of your mind? i loved my 3DO, i regret so much that i sold it with my whole game collection just to upgrade to another console at the time. I feel like purchasing it now that i have money to blow.

[@tommytuckersgoldencrown2505]

sKiLLz 311 hey dude do it...I always thought it was ahead of its time...I bet it can be modified it like new shit like Xbox's....I don't really know cuz I haven't seen one in year...but its Panasonic so I like to think so...I've never opened one up...✌🏽

[@ViciousAlienKlown]

sKiLLz 311 Same here, I had a lot of boxed games and the Goldstar 3DO system. I really miss it.

[@NickFarrow]

Virtual Boy. I'm sure some people went color blind because of this system

[@kevinstrade2752]

lol you not taking your eye breaks every ten minutes? ?

[@mikeoxlong567]

i dont see the appeal in collecting for that thing tbh

[@Kalvinjj]

I see the appeal: it takes little space for a full collection

[@Schimnesthai]

I would collect the Virtual Boy, the controller isn't awful, it has exclusives and it's an unique system. The horrible screen and the prize seem to be the only problems i have with it.

[@kevinstrade2752]

Have anyone of you actually played one???

[@jt0l3r]

Mine is the Philips CD-i (bought it for the Legend of Zelda exclusive). I have everything made by Atari except the 5200 (even have the Jaguar/CD combo). All Sega consoles. All Nintendo consoles. All Microsoft and all Sony. Panasonic 3DO and Coleco too. No Neo Geo except for the pocket unfortunately. At last count 1629 games. Could never trade or sell any of my stuff, even the crap titles, 😆. P.S. also have handheld consoles for Sega, Nintendo, and Sony.

[@colinspotswood9893]

James T What makes you hold on to crap titles? I can’t bear having an ‘unworthy’ game!

[@jt0l3r]

@@colinspotswood9893 nostalgia... I bought those throughout my childhood and got them as presents from family members that are dead now so regardless of how the title may hold up to time I'm never gonna just disregard them. It's respect

[@aswathmaheshkumar7416]

Oh god! Is the Zelda game as bad as the internet makes it out to be?

[@jt0l3r]

@@aswathmaheshkumar7416 yes, unfortunately it is. 😢

[@vaughanwinnicki5471]

The cdi never released how do you have it

[@darrencarter9812]

The 5200 was a case study in poor decision making and missed opportunity. It was essentially an Atari 800 computer stripped down. I can’t help but wonder what could have been had Atari kept the same form factor for the carts and used the computer software as the library for the 5200, along with digital controllers and a keypad/keyboard accessory to support games requiring them. They did pretty much this exact thing with the xegs but it wasn’t until 1987, putting the aging hardware head to head with the NES. Had they used that concept in 1983, they would have positioned their computer line to be more competitive with the C64, and essentially provided a defense against the video game crash.

[@SmashJT]

I gotta agree that thing was an abomination... and the controllers were just as bad!

[@barrymccaulkener7447]

Smash JT the only thing people ever complain about is the controllers though. Many many controller complaints.

[@OperationPhantom]

Although I love the system as well, the "console version" of the C64, the C64GS, has to be the worst idea for a console ever. It's just a C64 without a keyboard basically. Never owned one but then again, why, if I have 2 working C64s?!?

[@WritInWater]

Yep - absolutely ridiculous idea. That was a perfect example of everything wrong with commodore's management.

[@markpalmercomedy]

Another one I forgot about that thing was terrible , I remember when it came out and got terrible reviews in game mags .

[@lordevyl8317]

Commodore's management went downhill after they kicked Jack Tramiel out of the company. Jack was far from perfect, but at least he had good business sense

[@lordevyl8317]

Amstrad's console was pretty bad too as it was basically a console version of the CPC, and let's not forget The Apple/Bandai Pippin

[@Rpm2878]

I'm just a little younger, so for me it was the Game Gear. I had only seen commercials and liked the idea of the lit up color screen and the TV tuner cartridge. I got it, in a bundle with a travel case and 2 games. Loaded it with AA batteries and started playing it, until the batteries died in one sitting. Then I was stuck using a wall plug, because nobody could afford to go through batteries that fast. Never got another game, not even sure if I saw other games, and definitely never got the TV Tuner, did they even come out in the states? I don't know where it ended up, but hey, now I can replace it with a $50 mini and get 2 whole games extra. Side note, I took it on a flight, pre 9/11, and it was the first time I was asked to turn my bag inside out. All those wires and batteries looked too suspicious.

[@jovanjovanovic7610]

Game boy advance. So much I expected from it, so little I gained. Then I sold it and it became hit.

[@MrRetrogamingBard]

Got the trackball controller? Its the saving grace for my 5200.

[@Mappy1964]

That's easy, The Ouya.

[@adamphillip5305]

Nah Ouya was alright for emulation especially if you sideload some that are not on their shitty store plus it still runs Kodi well even tho its an outdated version. But their are much better alternatives.

[@qqq1701]

That's what I was thinking. There was a lot of hype and then I never heard a word about it again.

[@jaydy71]

Depends on what you expected I guess. I never expected more than an indie proof-of-concept kind of thing, and it was just that. Sure it promised more than it delivered, but hey, it's a commendable attempt from a little indie crowd sourced outfit (despite the sometimes cringeworthy marketing). I loved how it looked, and I liked that it actually wasn't that bad as an android TV box in terms of power for price. I used it for a while for Kodi and emulators, and to test some of my own android game dev attempts on the TV with a controller. There's place in hell for that controller though. Obviously not nearly as bad as a 5200 controller, but this day and age it's difficult to find a worse one. Also, the Ouya was loud and hot.

[@shanobian]

Mappy1964 does it count as a games console though?

[@ZekeGraal]

I remember being excited for it, but never got one because I could see the possibility of it not being well received. I was right, but I still find them pretty neat. Not neat enough to go out of my way and find one though.

[@jasonblankenship4418]

I had an Atari Juguar. Being boasted at 64bit, I thought it would be like having arcade level of graphics at home. The closest thing that I had was 16bit snes. After playing with it for about a month, I traded it for a second Snes.

[@Agk3los]

4 years late but... 100% the Xbox One. It is the only console I've ever owned that I barely played anything on because it's exclusives just weren't the time of day.

[@MoeLykit]

I had a 5200 growing up and playing centipede with the Trackball controller was the only thing I played on that thing besides using the 2600 Adapter to play all my classic 2600 games off the 5200. if you have this system you need centipede and the trackball controller it worked and felt just like being in the arcade

[@RandyWaage]

I forgot that the Atari 5200 had an Atari 2600 adapter too. I never had the Trackball controller, but it did look well built.

[@MoeLykit]

it worked just like the arcade version felt the same too I played centipede with my Dad for hours upon hours centipede and River Raid were the games I remember most having fun with on that system.

[@SlayingMantis676]

I almost forgot about that adapter to play 2600 games. I actually bought one when it came out but never got a chance to even open box and use it so it’s still in its original wrapping. The trackball was pretty kick ass though. There was absolutely no better way to play Centipede. It was funny, because the trackball unit was damn nearly as big as the console itself, Sort of like fight sticks are now. Imagine how cool it would’ve been if it had arcade style buttons on it. That would’ve made it perfect.

[@mufc10529]

Sega nomad

[@DeathGoreGrindcoreChannel]

Nice Ghost shirt.

[@JohnMerrik]

I was just going to say that haha =)

[@Afterburner]

Sounds to me like the potentiometers in the controller sticks are poor quality - Are they easy to retrofit or is the issue with some other aspect of the controller?

[@TheAlexmunst]

The Virtual Boy. I found it in the basement section of a thrift store for $20 with Red Alarm, Vertical Force and Teleroboxer. No stand, so I had to lay in bed with the thing resting over my eyes. The games weren't terrible considering the system they were on, but the controller had an extra d-pad that most games didn't need. (Teleroboxer used it to dodge/block hits, you had to press the same direction or opposite directions.) And man, the headaches. The Virtual Boy is the only system I've ever played that I took breaks every 15-30 minutes because it gave me throbbing headaches otherwise. That, a bad case of nogaems and the extreme chance of triggering epileptic seizures made it a horrible system.

[@allenglass3461]

Nope. Love the 5200

[@xj0462]

Allen Glass not sure if troll, or serious

[@RoboBlue2]

The most disappointing system I've ever had is the Tiger Game.com.

[@markpalmercomedy]

O yeah that thing sucks I forgot about that one , I had some new unopened games for it and no one wanted them they nearly ended up in the bin.

[@redwingblackbird8306]

My dad got one of these for christmas one year, the games were awesome, unless the controller broke. He could fix them a few times with foil over the contacts under the buttons, but that would stop working too. The Trackball for this system was the best, especially for centipede.

[@raposadislexa]

pppffff... ever heard about our Zeebo? hueh3ueh3uehu3he3

[@zaneiken07]

At least the Zeebo got an exclusive version of Double Dragon.

[@onbandito]

zeebo got resident evil 4

[@SummonerArthur]

Raposa Dislexa o zeebo carai!

[@Shazalakazoobang]

OMG, never heard of that.... I just looked it up and saw RE4 running on it, what a horrible abomination of a console!!! I need to get one....

[@setoGabes]

I HAD COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN ABOUT ZEEBO OH MY GOD BJBGJVFHCDFDDBJNKNHK

[@FranticPixel]

Mine would be the CD-I ... 😂 you bet I kept it! 😂

[@UltimateGamerCC]

funny thing is those CD-Is are dying out right now, components are disintegrating in their cheaply made shells, time is healing that wound of video game history.

[@Gold171]

Please tell me you’ve performed preventative maintenance for its sensitive components. If not do so very soon.

[@paxhumana2015]

Though I did not have one, a neighborhood kid of mine (who is now a state trooper in another state than the one that we had both lived in) had a Philips CD-i video game console.

[@scottmcewan6951]

I'm New to this channel so apologies if this has been answered before but have you ever done a vid on 3rd party peripherals and what are some of your favourites/wackiest from over the years?

[@nickj4785]

I see Ghost. I press like. I watch video. I like.

[@carteriuni4695]

Kocken Nice TOOL background.

[@weregretohio7728]

Can't go wrong with a guy who likes Ghost.

[@EQOAnostalgia]

Ghost sucks

[@jeenkzk5919]

Maybe I'm wearing nostalgia goggles but I had hours of enjoyment out of the 5200! I admit I had trouble with my controllers too! If there had been a better controller would it have been a different story?

[@sparticus214]

Jeenkz K The whole thing is a fire hazard, you plug in that weird cable and sparks 😌

[@andrewbelmont665]

3:40 The Odyssey 2 also has terrible, cheap, easy-to-break controllers. And unlike the Atari 5200's arsenal, the Odyssey 2 controllers are HARD-WIRED, meaning once they break, you're system is done for. As you can see, the Odyssey 2 was my most disappointing system. I only had it for a week, the controllers went from bad to worse in that time. I ended up returning it and used the refund money for TurboGrafx-16 and 3DO games

[@dirtyg9444]

Not so much this video, but I have seen tons of your videos. And I want to say thank you, you and your crew have helped me out in my video game collecting. Thanks for all the knowledge, great work MJ does rock!

[@llaeeZ]

Hey MJR, When you edit your videos can you convert your voice track into mono? Or perhaps get a mono microphone for your camera. Its very left-heavy in this video.

[@MetalJesusRocks]

Weird... Not sure why it encoded like that because it's not 100% panned to either side... just slightly... I'll double check future videos to make sure it doesn't happen again. Thanks for the heads up!

[@LysergiaLand-L-25]

Zeeall how dare you complain

[@llaeeZ]

Complain? You mean constructive criticism?

[@elblanco5]

definitely check out Best Electronics Atari CX52 controllers. They've redesigned some of the internals and have them reconditioned to last longer.

[@-42-47]

That many broken controllers looks like a pad-hacker dream. Check pcb and cord, fix any broken connections, put it in a arcade style controller of choice, boom, no more mushy buttons or slapstick, just fresh clicky goodness. Older PCBs are often incredibly easy to hack with only basic soldering skills (first time I tried soldering I successfully hacked a PS1 controller)

[@MackDaddi]

The biggest issue with the Atari 5200 controllers, is that they used Carbon contacts. Those carbon contacts deteriorate over time and use, so yes a working controller will eventually fail, even without use. There are replacement buttons and contacts that can be purchased to fix and bring these back to working condition. But you are correct these controllers suck. But Space Dungeon was a fantastic game on the 5200.

[@zombee38]

The 5200 sound was the best of all the atari (dont count the jaguar )