My Opinion of the Various Broadcasts of NHL Games

[@dolomitearterius5036]

Mickey Redmond is the best. I saw him wearing pajamas around midnight a few years ago at a Meijer (Michigan's Walmart) looking at gardening equipment. I had to do a double-take. I just waved to him and he waved back. Legend.

[@jaden8811]

That's awesome

[@mvpandrew93]

*I hate Corona. Took away my midnight shopping.*

[@Lcngopher]

Mickey has done red wings color commentary for so long, multiple generations have watched him call games their entire lives

[@mvpandrew93]

*I love Mickey Redmond, Since 97, I'll never stop watching.*

[@mvpandrew93]

@@Lcngopher *born '93 I remember the '02 championship run VIVIDLY.*

[@renlessard]

There is no play by play man who represents a team's fan base better than Jack Edwards. The guy is Masshole personified

[@thomasfitzgerald1027]

Jack is a good guy but he's always so far behind the play. I gotta turn the sound off most nights.

[@MEGANOlandisKahn]

Rick Jeanette has been calling buffalo games since the 70s... RJ is king.

[@harry154]

Jack Edwards is the most biased commentator in the league

[@renlessard]

@@harry154 one of the reasons he is perfect for that market. They have no time for fence sitters

[@powerdavidj]

Sorry, Jack needs to go. Did he have a stroke or something?

[@julianmckenzie1080]

I know he's in French, but I love listening to Pierre Houde on RDS. Learned a lot of french through his broadcasts and his "tir et le but" goal calls are legendary

[@abrararifify]

Pierre Houde is easily the best. Whenever the Sens play the Habs, I still watch the RDS feed even though im a sens fan lol

[@vithursan.b]

Pierre Houde over Felix Seguin!!

[@jacobb.1535]

The fact that he doesn't get to do the playoffs is an absolute crime against humanity

[@2AMBeans]

Marc Denis and Pierre Houde are so so good, love them both

[@Just_a_Man780]

@@jacobb.1535 We wont do em in a while too

[@EckhartsLadder]

Was hoping you'd mention Sam and Joe on MSG... they're really great IMO.

[@aralornwolf3140]

Who/what do they cover?

[@jaredkiser6578]

Wait, you're a hockey fan too! What's your team?

[@collinharvey2384]

No way you like hockey too

[@nolank19]

hey sweet! Didn't know you were a hockey fan!

[@Chenzo6969]

You Damn Right! Sam is the best...Joe is meh.

[@krabgod758]

MSG is so good. Jeanneret was the voice of the entire Sabres franchise, sad he’s retiring, but a hell of a career.

[@18wheeler76]

Ted darling was the Sabres tv announcer for 20 years.Jeanneret was radio only until about the year 2000

[@davidwozniak1846]

@@18wheeler76 darling was gone much earlier than that.

[@AreYouKittenMeRtNow]

Such nostalgia to hear that HOOOLLLYY MACKEREL!!!! 😂 That man was the voice of my childhood… I remember pitching hay in the barn with my dad in the fall and winter, bundled up to my eyeballs, listening to him call Sabres games on the radio

[@johndcornell6341]

Ted Darling the voice of my long lost youth...he was GREAT

[@vickiem.6096]

We are so spoiled in Detroit. Even when the Wings lose, I will wait to hear what Mickey's assessment of the game is. Thanks so much Shannon.

[@lyleknight9012]

Especially with this new Bally+ pairing. Nails on the chalkboard bad🤮

[@fuzzyfishnutz4838]

I have been watching all the Detroit games on ESPN+ this year and thoroughly enjoyed the broadcasts with Mick and Ken. They are obviously hoping for Detroit to play well but always give credit to other teams and players who do well and really give a full picture of the both the Wings and the opponent. Great work and nice jersey-LGRW!

[@westoneuler4065]

Daryl Reaugh is criminally underrated. As a Dallas fan who still remembers being new to the sport well (started watching heavily in 2016) I will always appreciate his mixture of comedy with easy to digest hockey knowledge. He made the sport seem so intuitive, the rules were easy to grasp, he just makes you feel like you’re there and know exactly what’s going on. He’s so good at his job. Really wish he could have done the Winter Classic broadcast in 2020 so the rest of the hockey world could get a taste. If your team is ever playing Dallas and you can get that broadcast, i can’t recommend it enough.

[@oldredbarnman]

I'm old enough to have watched Mickey Redmond when he played! He's been doing color for 42 yrs. starting in 1979, We have been truly blessed here in Detroit to have had a few legendary broadcasters (Budd Lynch, Bruce Martyn, Sid Abel, Dave Strader, and of course Ken and Mickey). I'd also like to mention two of my personal favorites, Chris Cuthbert and Pat Foley.

[@anthonystarke893]

I've always thought Sam Rosen does a great job of being objective. Does he lose his mind when the Rangers score? Absolutely, but he definitely gives credit to the opposing team and when they score he actually raises his voice when he says "they score!"

[@pizzaisthebest1053]

Yeah I totally agree sam and Joe are always pretty quick to give the other team some credit for their goals

[@ryno7425]

Sam is great his voice just sounds horrendous

[@johnhendrickson1806]

@@ryno7425what are you on about. “It’s a POWER PLAY GOAL” fuckin legendary

[@skiddy3715]

My biggest problem with Bally sports is the scoreboard. I'm so glad that's I'm not the only one who thinks that.

[@havokdragon74]

From a design perspective, it is way too big and distracting. Plus, shannon is right, it has the tendency to cover up play down low and should be on the top of the screen

[@susieq3571]

I've been complaining about this ever since I saw a Bally game. The scoreboard literally blocks the play at certain times. Lol, this really grinds my gears. I'm so glad I'm not the only one.

[@samspiers1192]

I think the two Canadian broadcasts are better than the American ones, but it makes sense because there are alot of American teams

[@byst33]

It's terrible, especially considering the Fox Sports one that preceded it was so clean and simple

[@ryans413]

It blocks most the play on the ice like who’s great idea was this

[@jonathanmills7994]

Having Ken explain Venmo to Mickey during one game was awesome TV this season.

[@midnightrambler8866]

Mackey doesn't have access to venmo on his jitterbug.

[@niftynhl4692]

As a Rangers fan who tunes into the other MSG broadcasts, what you said is spot on. They’re really good about being excited for their own team while also giving the other team a lot of credit when they’re playing well.

[@Taco1011]

I really enjoy watching Ranger broadcasts. Such a breath of fresh air compared to the usual Sportsnet bias I get in Canada.

[@etmuse]

And I've even seen times when Sam and Joe DO actually mention something that probably could/should have been a penalty on the Rangers - usually something like 'well may have just gotten away with that a bit there'. (Although for me Vally's analysis spots are probably the thing I think MSG has up on some other broadcasts)

[@ericjames19]

The decline of HNIC is a national tragedy

[@timfronimos459]

Absolutely. Been watching CBC from Detroit since 1972 and its been going downhill for a decade. Very un-entertaining broadcast.

[@DrocksErocks]

Sam Rosen is a treasure. His goal call when the opponent scores has just as much enthusiasm as any regional broadcaster’s goal call for their own team…and yet his reaction when the Rangers score is even more enthusiastic. Rangers legend!

[@Kmartsmart]

Sam Rosen can make any Ranger sound like an absolute world beater when they score. Whenever the Rangers win you’d think they’d have won the cup with how excited he is and how much energy they have.

[@danterr980]

Its a power play goal! they also have the best intermission team with Vally

[@pjabrony8280]

Yeah, but he doesn't short the other teams' players either. If one of them scores, he'll play up what a big accomplishment it is.

[@smola2350]

His excitement when Mika scored 5 goals against the Caps is the first one to come to my mind when someone mentions Sam Rosen. His enthusiasm really rubs on

[@HDreamer]

It's what keeps him in the booth while he is getting too old to always know who actually made a play.

[@Kmartsmart]

@@HDreamer it’s true he’s not as on it, not like Bob Cole in his later years haha, but your right his calls are always fantastic so it makes up for it

[@brettw8744]

I feel so spoiled getting to have Ken and Mickey do the Wings’ broadcasts. Mickey’s stories and tangents are entertaining on their own

[@abrahamlincoln9758]

Must have been 10 years ago now, but there was a game Mickey and Ken were calling between Det and Nsh. Datsyuk carries it in on the left wing and turns to the boards to protect the puck, Weber shoved him off it. Puck comes back to center and it goes to Datsyuk again. Mickey goes, "Go ahead, give it one more try." Datsyuk brings it over the blue line on the left wing again and Weber comes in to push him off again and Datstuk judo checks HIM into the boards, setting Mickey into a histerical laughing session. "You who used to do that? Gordie Howe." 🤣

[@murph278]

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[@abrahamlincoln9758]

@@samplechannel2fiyd5idjfufjfud Thank you, snopes!

[@thewaterwarrior9817]

@@abrahamlincoln9758 💀

[@jakeelliott3562]

Mickey loved that moment he was laughing his ass off bc of that😂

[@MB-ms3ud]

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[@ethanbaranitsky61]

Jack Michaels is criminally underrated. He makes every game feel game 7 of a playoff series

[@epichandel]

Edmonton loves Jack. He understands the vibe here. High energy and great diction can't be beat.... plus he's hilarious. Feels great to cheer with

[@BrettfordBolts]

He makes games so exciting

[@BoxxMasterr]

It's his first year, he'll be more highly regarded as his career goes on. I really hope we get him calling the playoffs

[@CastleBrookKrew]

I cant believe he likes the calgary broadcast. Casey Campbell is the worst color in the sport.

[@billgwinn9600]

I heard Michaels on the Blues / Oilers broadcast. Never heard him before. I love Blues broadcasts like Shannon does too. But I thought Michaels was absolutely fantastic. Would love to listen to him call games. He’s got a little Emrick in him

[@daved1535]

I loved listening to Rick Jeanneret announcing fights back in the 90s. My favorite was Sabres vs Flyers, Shields vs Snow. If you haven't seen that yet look it up its a classic

[@YetiSmasherOhnO]

When I worked at Meijer, I was stocking the cheese shelf and heard an ICONIC voice behind me, asking for marshmallows and cereal... it was Mickey Redmond. Born in 1990, I shook his hand and thanked him for all the memories. I was a a jitterbug for the rest of my shift!

[@jacobeberhardt1649]

Growing up in Maryland, Joe B and Locker are the voices of hockey to me. Hearing "Ovechkin fires, he scooooooores!!!!!" will always give me good flashbacks. And every call of every Ovi highlight.

[@mz5175]

Joe B and Locker are the best

[@vinceniederman]

As a Flyers Fan I Like Your Broadcasters!

[@yoshiegg1544]

Love when Joe B calls lacrosse and college football here and there too. He's top class Also shout-out to Caps radio guy John Walton. Other fans may have heard him doing the occasional national game and Olympics. Worried we'll lose him to a full-time national gig one day 😢

[@dealy9268]

They hurt my ears!!!!! Big time homers

[@ashter_7266]

@@yoshiegg1544 john walton’s “good morning, good afternoon, and goodnight (city name)” is great

[@96FiRE96]

I'm in BC but am a life long Detroit fan & LOVE watching the home feed. Mickey is incredible, and I still think you need to do a career video on him, might have been a short career but first 50 goal scorer for the wings, even Gordie never got 50 in Detroit! Bally scoreboard at the bottom of the screen drives me absolutely mental, I went so far as to email them and their parent company because it bothers me so much. Great video btw, I think it's on point!

[@ramirer9561]

Ken and Mickey are the best. I've had the privilege of growing up and hearing them call games like two hockey buddies just shooting the crap while watching a game. All the stories Mickey tells, his love of ginger ale, catchphrases, and random ass side banter is a joy. Without these two call games watching the Wings play would of been very hard these past few years.

[@daltonking6956]

I'm so glad to know I'm not just being a homer loving Mickey Redmond, over these last few years as the team on the ice got worse and worse, I came to realize just like I had taken Datsyuk for granted, I had taken Mickey's commentary for granted because he became my biggest reason I had to turn on a Wings game

[@Yochillitsthatserious]

It’s seems almost impossible to fully appreciate these guys fully at the time. Datsyuk was so special to watch night after night. Ken Daniels also does the job to absolute perfection.

[@flanky1210]

Detroit broadcasts are some of the best honestly. Yes they can be biased, because like you said its a regional broadcast. However, there are plenty of times they will compliment other players and be fair with bad/good penalty calls. They will try their best to see it down the middle. I also like how relaxed they are in the booth.

[@Ben__Dover]

Had to watch the Wings broadcast when they played the Sens. Was very impressed, pulling out stats mid game I never knew about my own team. Seemed very interested in both teams and knowledgeable all around.

[@LordPichuPal]

Yeah, Mickey does an amazing job of keeping things level when he's on. He'll often criticize the officiating whether it's for or against us, and compliments good play from either side. And Ken Daniels is just great to listen to. He's even done broadcasts for national TV games in the past a few times with NBC, and kept that same level of energy as if both teams were Detroit, which speaks to how professional he can be. Other times we also get Chris Osgood or Larry Murphy for color commentary since Mickey can only travel so far these days, and they do a good job as well. It's really nice to see others outside Detroit recognizing how good we have it with the commentary team.

[@vintagehockeygear6769]

@@LordPichuPal Mickey hasn't been going on big road trips the past few years because he has to have a gluten-free diet and it is hard to do on the road - I like Ozzie but he always says "eKspecially" and it drives me nuts! Former Detroit Vipers color analyst Darren Eliot was really good for a few years with the Wings but he left to work for Vegas, I believe.

[@LordPichuPal]

@@vintagehockeygear6769 Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. I remember there being some explanation about why he didn't go on long road trips a while back, but damned if I could remember what it was. So that better answers it anyway.

[@cameronmccormick89]

Detroit has become my 2nd favourite team behind Montreal because of Ken and Mickey, and obviously can't go wrong with Stevie Y in charge and those jerseys.

[@abrahamlincoln9758]

The other day, Ken said something about an acronym and Mickey didn't get it and changed it to PBR and started talking about beer. MICKEY REDMOND IS A NATIONAL TREASURE

[@tdogracingandfishing9256]

Detroit Red wings and Montreal Canadiens are both of my favorite teams. 1. Detroit 2. Montreal. I hate the Toronto maple leafs

[@TheCrazyCanuck420]

A Wings and Habs fan eh? You must really hate the Laughs 😀

[@reuben8140]

You can add Mo Seider to that list going forward, kid’s a stallion

[@borisvandruff7532]

Makes me wish Rick Jeanneret achieved more status than he did. His greatness is unmatched.

[@KB-hb1ub]

Fr… Shannon didn’t even mention the man who I consider the greatest hockey play by play commentator to ever do it. I’m biased, but many of his calls give me shivers.

[@cope847]

@@KB-hb1ub maybe because he hasn't been doing that many games the last few years.

[@KB-hb1ub]

@@cope847 fair… even the games he does, we’ve been so bad in recent (and not so recent) years that it’s almost hard to listen to him struggle through it.

[@andrewmason1776]

@@KB-hb1ub I have always been mad at the Sabres for being so bad for so long, because, to me, the older generations of hockey viewers and the ones who started watching hockey in the early 2000s love RJ - but the newer viewers will never get to experience calls like that. Really stinks he never got to call playoff games in the last 10 years.

[@scarycrazymann]

@@andrewmason1776 nah, his legacy will live on. Because our generation right now will teach our kids about rj

[@kaylah9206]

Call me biased but I love Jim Jackson especially when he’s with Keith Jones. Their banter and chemistry is truly unmatched. Also obviously JJ and Jonesy are flyers fans but they’re not afraid to talk about how they got away with a penalty or compliment players on the opposing team. Some broadcasts would rather drop dead than compliment a player or a play made by the opposing team but these guys aren’t like that. Also nothing beats JJ calling a goal. Also I’m glad you mentioned their intermission work I love it. Taryn, Al, and Scott do an amazing job and once again their chemistry is amazing. And I love when they bring JJ and Jonesy into the mix as well. You can tell they all get along well and it translates over the tv

[@Stalkingwolf]

yeah. they are both great. Bill Clement was the worst for the Flyers. very pro Flyers.

[@hunterwelsh5950]

Al always looks like he is going to cry when we loose I feel so bad

[@RedRoverTW]

Totally agree, except I'm not a big Taryn Hatcher fan. Feel she gets too sarcastic and negative. JJ, Jonesy, and Al are the best. Also like Bill Clement, but moreso in his golden era. Outside of Philly, I think Pat Foley in Chicago is excellent.

[@patrickjames1798]

@@Stalkingwolf seriously, bill clement was terrible

[@MrPeterStevens]

Keith Jones is great.

[@andrewkraft2586]

The Wilds broadcaster Anthony LaPanta is who makes our broadcasts on Bally Sports so great. Ryan Carter is really good too, and Lou Nanne is a local legend in Minnesota. I love our coverage!

[@kylemiller2920]

I agree, I think Carts and Lou have the best chemistry with LaPanta and know when to jump in and for how long. I think Parish has been good in the games he's done as well. I think Gigi will pick it up and do fine, feels like she does a little better each game. I prefer Walz in the studio though, I think his commentary fits better there, and his pacing is more suited to that than color.

[@jacobbeckler9540]

If have to hear Wes talk about, “when I played.” One more time! 🙄

[@Dentros21]

I wish they still had Greenlay or stick with Carter, Nanne kinda rambles, I like him, but not as an announcer, and Walz is speed speaking through everything and most of it is either nonsense or just stuff that doesn't need to be said.

[@kylemiller2920]

@@Dentros21 for Nanne I think that's just kind of the way he talks. As far as Walz, who knows it could be nerves. One thing to consider about Carts is that he actually has a degree in communications from MN state, which likely means he had some proper education that helps him be more fluid. As for greenlay he's been doing it a long time, and built up over time that chemistry with LaPanta.

[@Sonicthehedgefundmanager]

Ken and mick are the voice of the red wings, my childhood was watching wings games and always being disappointed when the wings were being broadcast nationally because I wouldn’t get to hear ken and mick properly call a wings game, they are the best in the business.

[@blueshirtshockey93]

They r incredible

[@vintagehockeygear6769]

we had another great play by play guy: Dave Strader before Ken (there was one other guy that replaced Strader and lasted one season - and he did the call of the big brawl against Colorado) -- Ken replaced him in 1998 and has never looked back.

[@HT-jj5sx]

This is a super good video idea, I think that THG might one of just a few people who'd be able to look at this in a non-biased way. Really, really cool.

[@tehbeernerd]

What I like about Devils broadcast is that you get a good report on the opposing team. They do their homework. Steve and Dano are no Doc and Chico but that’s an unmatched pair.

[@soulknife20]

My wife is a Devils fan so I've gotten quite accustomed to Steve and Dano. They're great. They don't go homer too often.

[@wefindourheroes2772]

Yeah I think Steve is very underrated. He should get more recognition with his calls. He’s got a good voice and Dano makes me laugh sometimes. And then you have the gorgeous Erika Wahcter to look at during intermission. She’s very cheerful too.

[@willflint5014]

As a Caps fan, I love having Joe B and Locker. Not even trying to be biased. I like to be unbiased when forming opinions. These two guys are at least top 10 for active hockey broadcasters (regionally). If the Caps are not playing up to snuff, they will say something about it. There’s a reason that they have been together in this position for 25 years.

[@rizon72]

Can't stand listening to the Caps announcers. Its like listening to nails on a chalkboard. Its the one group of announcers I just can't stand. If I was a Caps fan, I'd probably love them.

[@yankees2864]

Capitals announcers are extremely biased, same with Boston.

[@dontrapani7778]

Total agreement here. Joe B is biased but fair. Of course he gets more excited when the Caps score, but that's natural. Locker is as good as any color man, he always analyzes the play and I love the way he explains things that I didn't notice the first time I saw it. And he always gives the other team credit for good play. Full disclosure: I'm not a Caps fan, I live in California and only really follow West Coast teams.

[@hartfordwolfpack8678]

The play by play guy is hype, the analyst with the deep voice is kinda annoying

[@davidowen225]

Joe B. is one of the most knowledgeable hockey play by play guys I have ever listened to.

[@RParmable]

John Shorthouse, and John Garrett have chemistry that is almost unmatched.John Garrett’s insight about what’s happening on the ice is pinpoint laser.. His talk about snack food and cereal is funny. Garret’s legacy of hockey is insightful also and brings you closer to what’s happening in the NHL

[@ChknShut]

For as much as Bally Sports annoys me, like streaming quality and blackouts, the ESPN/TNT/ESPN+/Hulu broadcasts are AWFUL. Crowd noise is way too loud compared to the announcers, and their blackouts are even worse. And obviously since they can’t be biased, the absolutely random conversations about things that have nothing to do with the game is so off putting. Or they cut away from the game when the play is still going on (canes panthers OT when the panthers scored like 15 seconds in to OT and they had cut to the next game coming up after this one finished.) absolutely hate watching on ESPN

[@nomcarver4646]

I have lost count of how many times the espn people start talking about what they ate last night and chicken parm

[@alu.304]

Lapanta and that annoying chick are the worst for Wild games. When Paul Allen (The Voice of the Minnesota Vikings) guest announced it was fucking awesome 😱😱😱😱

[@alu.304]

@@nomcarver4646 that just Buchigras (sp?) The guy doesn't STFU about Chicken Parm or U2🤦‍♂️

[@dayman4753]

ESPN+ is the worst. They totally are biased. I watched one game on that network and it was against Edmonton. The whole game they were gushing over McDavid and D. How bad was it? My team scores a goal and instead of talking about the goal, 5 seconds after it happens they legit said, "and McDavid was on the ice when they scored, he's so incredible". I'm like wtf? Can you do anything besides Jk off over him, what are you his girlfriend or something?

[@RRaquello]

@@dayman4753 That's how you can tell a broadcast is being aimed at newbies and non or casual fans, when they only talk about the star players. ESPN assumes that nobody really likes hockey, and they do the games like they have to sell it for 60 minutes instead of treating it like we're watching it because we already like it and don't have to be convinced.

[@WAFFLEMAN38]

As a Jets fan I dread Sportsnet nights. It's a coin toss whether or not we'll get someone who actually knows our players' names lol. Intermission segments can be pretty good sometimes, though

[@back2byte]

Same for sens fans, tsn announcers always know the players inside and out

[@evulfun]

Never mind not knowing our players names.....it's the clear bias to call the game against Winnipeg. Even if we are the only Canadian team playing on that night, and they pretty much have no choice but to put the Jets on HNIC, they spend all the time talking about the American team we are playing. Last time I checked...the C in HNIC stood for Canada. Maybe lean a little to cheering for the Canadian team, and maybe forget that you are the regional Calgary (or whoever it is) and call like the whole country is watching.

[@lmtman6199]

Sam Rosen’s objectiveness towards just appreciating the game as a whole from both teams is underrated. Ik im biased cause LGR but he will always be the best in my eyes

[@turbotron42069]

sharks fan here - can say sam rosen is probably one of my favorite sports announcers in general. any time the rangers are on, i’m watching their feed

[@willpitts5223]

What does Lazy Game Reviews have to do with this?

[@Wolky324]

@@turbotron42069 idk his name but the sharks announcer wish always have a nostalgic place in my heart because he was the voice of NHL 2k9

[@turbotron42069]

@@Wolky324 randy hahn absolute legend

[@jkliao6486]

Really like Joe B and Locker. They know what they are doing, fairly objective to a point their judgement won't get clouded because they are regional announcers, and hearing them making fun of each other (mostly Locker on Joe B) is just relaxing.

[@johnmcclaneftw13]

Craig can be worse than Joe. But I love them, even though Craig can put on the glasses sometimes. There's a reason Joe B was doing VS. National broadcasts. He calls rippers for both teams. How do you feel about Florida? I think they're the worst when it comes to letting the bias come out. I am a Caps fan, and been watching since I could understand on HTS.

[@ajbolt7]

I’ve been enjoying Detroit‘s broadcast. But man John Shorthouse is simply one of the best in the business right now. Gets the intensity across and articulates everything so well. Plus he’s great at not being a homer (John Garrett does that part). Like it’s really nice hearing the same sort of hype over a massive save no matter which team it’s on

[@SMG2fanatic]

Love how tnt changes camera angles every 3 seconds. Or when they have the camera 3000 miles away during the entire power play so we can watch ants play. It’s fantastic

[@VIVE305]

Steve Goldstein and Randy Moller for the Panthers are amazing. I watch the Heat and Dolphins games on mute. But for Randy and Steve I always have them on. Goats

[@chickenfkeryay]

Is denis potvin gone?

[@zgalp]

LET’S GO HOME BABY!!!

[@Taco1011]

I have always preferred the TSN broadcasts, and it has me considering buying that NHL live package, just to watch those broadcasts. Gord Miller and Ray Ferraro are by far my favorite broadcasting duo in all of hockey. No offense to Moser in Colorado, but man, I just genuinely prefer Gord and Ray. Mostly because that's the duo I grew up watching.

[@saskcch]

Does Ray still do TSN? I thought he was all ESPN now?

[@munaclassic4020]

Ray does tsn. Love him when they cover the leafs. He is my favorite and my favorite segment is the quiz.

[@verdantj.brennan4900]

@@saskcch Ray does both.

[@Outta-hz1ej]

Gord Miller calls hockey games like I would call hockey games - he just talks about facts like dude there's a game on

[@Taco1011]

@@Outta-hz1ej …that’s his job though

[@TheBlackWatchRHR]

Cus I can speak French and am a Habs fan, I get the absolute treat of watching Pierre Houde and Marc Denis, such an amazing combo (Their veterency as a duo definitely make the product that much better). Because of the fact that the playoffs last year were handled only by Sportsnet and TVA Sports, I've grown to actually like TVA Sports, obviously nowhere near as good as RDS but they even rank higher than TSN for me nowadays ( I do miss Sergio Momesso's "Oh my stars!" from time to time though). Theeeennnnn there's Sportsnet, I swear it seems no matter what damn team the Habs are playing the Sportsnet team doing the commentating seems to be rooting for the adversary and when it's against The Maple Leafs, oh my word, no, just no. Edit: Also that RDS/TSN intro, mmmph so good

[@bradtinkham2540]

I am a Caps fan and enjoy their regular team of broadcasters. I am particularly happy with John Walton on radio when I am unable to watch the game on TV. I watched Caps on TNT recently and about went to sleep. The announcers had no appreciable background info on the players and were announcing a different game than the one I thought that I was watching. I refuse to go through all the machinations that ESPN wants me to go through to watch a poor studio show and mediocre broadcasters.

[@VexJinks]

Jack Micheals is definitely underrated right now. In 10-20 years, he’ll be one of those broadcasters people look back on as a bonafide hockey voice.

[@chickenfkeryay]

Who does he call games for

[@devonherbert6002]

@@chickenfkeryay Oilers

[@chickenfkeryay]

@@devonherbert6002 Thanks

[@BrownieBlog]

As an oilers fan i love listening to Oilers games. Yeah Jack can get pretty loud but that just means he's just as much into the game as the fans watching. When Mcdavid scores in OT its just a wild experience

[@thetravenousgamer]

I loved listening to him and Stauffer on CHED, they go off the rails sometimes with old pop culture references, they're hilarious

[@DJSingleTone]

Love the video, I will say that Seattle has gotten much better throughout the year but the thing that has improved the most has been the camerawork. It was brutal at the beginning but it finally seems like they are used to the game now

[@pizzapoop17]

JT Brown has no business being a Play by play guy. Brutal

[@wingsman26]

Mickey is an absolute legend! Ken Daniels does a great job but he tends to ramble at times instead of sticking with the play by play. Because of this he misses a lot of important calls. I really miss Dave Strader (RIP). He and Mickey were so damn good together, especially when calling all the old Probert and Kocur fights. We're definitely spoiled in Detroit. Great video Shannon.

[@jmgauvre]

Being in Detroit we have a interesting situation. I often watch cbc (channel 9) from Windsor. Hockey Night in Canada's broadcasts are pretty darn good. I will admit, even though I am perfectly fine with the decision, there is something missing without Don Cherry.

[@thewaterwarrior9817]

ken rambles because the team isn't very good and we'd rather listen to him ramble than talk about how bad we are

[@kanetyler4399]

Finally some actual reason on the subject of Ken and Mick not just blind nostalgic love

[@vintagehockeygear6769]

Dave and Mickey on the old PASS Sports broadcasts were great! I like Ken, he does love to point out which college a guy played for every time they touch the puck or mention how X player scored their first career goal against Detroit.

[@JustBob-sw4rf]

I agree with you, nothing irritates me more during a hockey broadcast than when they do an interview while there’s on-ice play. Guest commentators who talk hockey are fine, if they’re focused on the game. But, interviews should occur only during the non-play times.

[@Goaricon1]

I have watched a few games called like you say TNT/ESPN+ call games. It is like baseball play-by-play where they talk and only mention anything game-related after the pitch. Calling hockey like that can make the game very dull even though it is a great game.

[@RIPJimmyA7X]

The way you described Altitude was perfect, I was laughing so hard. Altitude is a perfect blend of being incredibly bias while still giving the opponent the credit they deserve.

[@esharp48]

How deflated the Avs announcer gets at (almost) every goal against is actually hilarious

[@pottytheparrot310]

@@esharp48 The Wild announcer does that too.

[@romaliop]

I don't think bias is the right word. For me bias is when the commentators have double standards for refereeing and stuff like that. The Altitude guys are mostly just heavily cheering for the Avs, but at the same time at least trying to call the plays as they happened. Like being happy when the refs miss a penalty on the Avs, while acknowledging that it probably should've been a penalty. And when the opponent makes a great play or something like that, they'll be disappointed because the Avs got scored on, but praise the actual play anyway.

[@stevesmith3890]

@@romaliop Biased? Nah. I'm pretty sure it's spelled Nathan Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaackinnon.

[@Neon002121]

@@stevesmith3890 I think I’ve heard “the KADARI MAN Can!!!!!!” Pretty frequently this season. That and “The Moose is loose!!”

[@john_blues]

Mickey Redmond is fantastic. Manon Rhéaume during the period breaks doesn't really fit though. At least not yet. The thing I like about the Wings broadcast team is that they will criticize the play of our team. Our other sports announcers are terrible at that.

[@kanetyler4399]

She gives way more actual analysis than him. Micks everyone’s drunk uncle. Is it the accent? Because the information and analysis she gives is just way more useful to the viewing experience and understanding the game.

[@pythagorasabc]

@@kanetyler4399 what do you think Mickey is talking about when he says "ginger ale"?

[@dustyb58]

Sitting next to John Keating is a job and a punishment. Not sure what Rheaume did to deserve that karma.

[@john_blues]

@@dustyb58 😂

[@rascalnicough7376]

Really hope TNT and ABC broadcasts will get better as the contract with the NHL ages.

[@golfer371]

I will give them all a first year pass. Next year people will want to see improvement.

[@Jame5man]

RDS is fantastic for balance, Pierre Houde is a legend in my eyes. The French makes it less accessible, which is a shame because it’s fantastic coverage. To me it’s a crime that TVA broadcasts hockey games. Seguin is terrible

[@APJTA]

I'd love to see TVA switch to Seb Goulet for their main play-by-play. Loved him the other day.

[@unbearablycringe]

@@APJTA He was kinda boring imo but hes a huge upgrade over felix seguin thats for sure

[@madeinedmundston]

@@unbearablycringe The guy is younger than me,Let him get experience...he's the one who will replace pierre when he retire.

[@IcyMantaray]

What is RDS? I prefer balance but I've never heard that acronym!

[@HRomilien]

Houde absolutely is a legend. MA PAROLE! Also, TVAS should try to poach Martin McGuire from 98.5. McGuire is legendary aswell.

[@Zingo919]

We're truly blessed in Calgary with Rick Ball and Kelly Hrudey. They do a great job and have excellent chemistry. Unfortunately it makes it extra jarring on weekends when we lose Kelly and he's replaced by Cassie...

[@grousemaster]

Yeah, Rick is good but Kelly is awesome. I'm an Oilers fan but I occasionally pick up a period of the Calgary games here and there. Just love listening to him and the things he picks up on in games. Love the Oilers guys too, although I admit Jack is a little over the top at times. Worked really well on the radio for some reason, but seems a little overbearing on TV broadcasts. Overall though he and Louie are really good.

[@bwbdalek1]

As a hockey viewer watching a full season seriously for the first time, I truly feel spoiled in that we get john forslund. He has made almost every game an exciting watch. Jt has been getting better and better at color commentary as well, his chillness really helps balance out forslunds over the top adrenaline rushlike excitement.

[@TheSens_]

What I like about the TSN feed is that they actually talk about the game and the teams involved. SN will tell me what Matthews ate for Breakfast or about that small village in Manitoba before talking about the game I'm watching

[@jimmousseau2765]

Exactly. I’m a SENS fan too and it’s unwatchable.

[@SirRob24]

Mickey is amazing. I really enjoy him and Ken because they aren't afraid to shit on the team. Like if someone does something stupid or they play like trash then the two of them will call them out on it. I enjoy how they don't just jerkoff the Wings like some other broadcasters do for their team.

[@El_Travo]

I enjoy Altitude because it feels like your watching the game with a couple of fans. They'd rather focus on trying to make the play by play entertaining over being a narration of what's going on which is fine for me since I'm perfectly capable of following the play on my own. They'll dish out the compliments to other teams/players who deserve it all night long. Whether it's going on and on about Seider, or raving about how hard Weber can shoot the puck. It's a fun broadcast so long as you aren't one of those fans who needs everything to be taken seriously the entire game.

[@bowdenproductions]

If this was a tier list we’d have to make a Z category for Jack Edwards 😂

[@heinrichdude]

Jack Michaels! Top notch play-by-play and so exciting to listen to in the final miinutes of the game!

[@spockterwho]

It would be amazing to see THG on a national broadcast. I honestly think you'd bring so much!

[@bone_krusher5474]

Producer: Shannon we are gonna need you to start using the telestrator. Shannon: but I brought my white boards and magnets

[@ronpeacock9939]

I'm going to miss Rick Jeannerett now that he's retiring.. Rob Ray is pretty good, but RJ has been there since the second year The Sabres started play.

[@thenextgreat8652]

Hit the nail on the head with Altitude. And glad McNabb’s stage 4 cancer went into remission as I didn’t think he was going to make it through the season 🙏

[@habbo7334]

Even as someone who is anglophone, I must say that Pierre Houde on RDS really is a top notch commentator not only for the amount of enthusiasm he has but also the effort he puts into interviewing players from opposing teams and treating them with respect. He really is a class and he doesn’t say very biased things like a lot of commentators do.

[@Nacnud92]

I play in a charity hockey tournament every year in Detroit. It’s against Wings alumni, and one year I pulled a decent toe drag and shot against Mickey (who didn’t seem to be giving it 100%, obviously). When I skated by him he said “you little shit” and hacked at my skate. Lol

[@craigdemyanovich]

I moved away many years ago for work. I play in some charity games/tournaments where I live now. Can folks sign up or join a wait list for this one in Detroit?

[@oilcitybassguy]

Jack Michaels on the Oilers broadcast was the radio guy for a long time, pretty much a local legend at this point. He is obviously a homer but as an Oilers fan I appreciate his passion especially after few years of Drew Remenda and his never ending San Jose Sharks stories.

[@justinnewman1997]

"On the OILERS... radio network"

[@Marixa1979]

After Rod Philips, I had a hard time accepting Jack, but he really does do a great job, and has great energy.

[@chickenfkeryay]

Was drew always talking about san jose why oilers fans hated him? I am from california so i watched tons of sharks games and loved randy and drew

[@oilcitybassguy]

@@chickenfkeryay Ya he did, plus he had a tough time memorizing Oiler names and he stumbled over his words quite a bit.

[@PrivatelyHanging]

Ken and Mick are the most fair broadcasters in the biz; and yes they are Homer's, they will give a fair shake to everyone except Toronto, because nobody likes raking leaves.

[@Yochillitsthatserious]

Was just making this observation. Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond are the best ever, the best now, the best then, and the best as long as they do it. True treasures. The 90s and 2000s were chalk full of great hockey moments. Now that Yzerman and these young kids are putting on a great show again it’s truly a delight.

[@shanegriggs2810]

Dave Strader was really good and under appreciated in my opionion. Rip

[@starsfan23]

Amen! We got the best when Ralph Strangis retired. Bogorad does a good job, but no one can beat Dave

[@kiddrew80]

100% agree. He was so good

[@wapudblues]

I used to listen to Dave Strader when he covered for the Adirondack Red Wings many years ago. I do believe the broadcast booth in Glens Falls, New York is dedicated in his name.

[@blusharks13]

I would love to see a similar video like this for the radio broadcasts. It is an old art form but as a Tampa fan getting to hear the old legend Phil Esposito react to the team he founded feels quite surreal and Dave Mishkin really puts his love for the team on display with every goal scored.

[@erikguthrie8578]

100% agree, should do a video on radio announcers. I feel like they inherently have to be better commentators since they have to describe the scene for everyone rather than relying on” well you saw what happened on the tv”. As a bruins fan who cant stand jack edwards, the radio team of bob beers and jud sirot are 100 times better. Must be cool to listen to phil espo call a game. I’ll have to check out a tampa radio feed sometime

[@RRaquello]

I grew up on hockey on the radio, back in the 70's. There wasn't too much TV back then. Maybe one game a week, and only that many because I grew up in NYC and we had two teams. I'll still listen to radio broadcasts over the internet nowadays, especially since I've gotten rid of most of my pay-TV. It's fine by me because even when I have the game on TV I listen more than I watch.

[@anastasiaaa66]

Love it when the Leafs games are on TSN. I think Gord and Ray are probably the best duo in the league. The stuff in between periods is so much better than Sportsnet too, although Cuthbert and Simpson are okay anouncers

[@dslking]

Leafs should have Joe Bowen when it's not Ray and Gord

[@futuresequence.]

@@dslking I listen to the games on the radio quite often while driving. Love Joe and Jim, but they get alot wrong and tend to goof around a lot. I find just putting on the tv broadcast can be easier to get an idea what's actually going on.

[@xXPyrophorusXx]

@@futuresequence. Joe and Jim know who their audience is, they can take a "time off", because there is always a story, and the play isn't riveting....but it could be less of that, still.

[@christophertornow6482]

I went to the Toledo Winterfest Where the Toledo Alumni played against the Red Wings Alumni. Mickey took the ice like an absolute legend and helped solidify my girlfriend as a Red Wings fan. And yes, he is a lot of fun to listen to!

[@Relive-Anime]

Just wanted to add that henrik lundqvist and steve valiquette are a treat in between periods for the Rangers. The way Steve explains tactics of the game and such is so clear and I feel like I always learn something new. MSG 150 is also always very entertaining in between periods

[@noahcinzio3250]

I agree, love how they got that setup

[@viktorreznov9116]

I wish you went more into msg for the islanders specifically because I really do think it’s a class act beyond Shannon who you mentioned. Brendan is truly the future of the booth in my eyes. And bringing in more smart people like Anson Carter and AJ Mlezcko for games as often as possible is the icing on the cake.

[@philbertmcgee7846]

If Detroit is losing by a lot, and they get scored on again, hearing a quiet "Oh my God" from Mickey always gives me a chuckle

[@SaltyDylan]

Debrusk will admit ot the Oilers getting away with calls, but Jack Micheals overtime calls are a thing of beauty

[@ryans413]

Yes they are fair they even get on the oilers when they are playing bad. They seem to commentate more on the fans side then the teams and I like that many things they say I agree with them.

[@Quandoozle]

"The pleasure was allllllllllllllllllllllllllllll ours!"

[@dragoniv]

I watched the San Jose - Edmonton game with both coverages--I was actually surprised how even the San Jose coverage of the game was. Kudos to them! (I'm an Oiler fan).

[@6Snaus]

They have their moments of bias for sure, especially their studio crew, but Randy Hahn is a top tier play by play guy.

[@chickenfkeryay]

Randy hahn is a sharks homer and sharks fan but he isnt afraid to give credit to opposing teams, call out a lucky break for san jose, or rip the team. Randy also grew up near edmonton and was a fan back in the dynasty days. I havent watched the sharks much the past few years so im not that familiar with jamie baker. I know oilers fan hated him but drew remenda was beloved on sharks broadcasts.

[@6Snaus]

@@chickenfkeryay Baker left a couple years ago to deal with his own mental health struggles. It's mostly Bret Hedican on color now with Remenda filling in every now and then or working on the radio.

[@chickenfkeryay]

@@6Snaus Forgot and realized that baker left. Thanks for the correction

[@phil7121]

Randy is a San Jose hockey icon but is very good at knowing when to be lighthearted and homerish and when to be professionally unbiased... Drew is very emotionally attached to the sharks and is both exceedingly defensive and critical of the team... Hedican has player favorites so depending on who it is he either lathers it on or nitpicks every mistake

[@unapologeticOne]

Sharks commentators are easily among the least biased regional commentators in the league. I don’t think that’s biased either. Yeah I’m a Sharks fan but they call out the Sharks all the time and they get crazy into it when the other team scores a goal or if the other team’s goalie makes a killer save against the Sharks.

[@user-ww8nz5oo2l]

this ill agree with, i hear leafs and caps fans say they arent biased, but the sharks are an example of unbiased that isn't recognized usually.

[@bigounce7201]

the dallas broadcast team imo and with full bias, have a deep connection with the fans, not only because of what you already mention, but also razors personality and of course his razorisms is what fans live for and josh bogorod being our caller with a holler when the stars play a good is really great in our market. Bogey and Razor are always gonna be my favorite hands down.

[@PoolNoodleGundam]

Jack Michaels & Louie Debrusk rule. Electric calls all game.

[@Marixa1979]

I'm a big fan of Jack, though I can definitely see how he could be not liked. Polar for sure, you'll love him, or hate him, won't be much in the middle. Louie is very good as color guy.

[@ryans413]

Jacks not perfect he will say a player takes a wrist shot when it was a slap shot but he’s just right into the game plus he really has no bias with Loui they will be the first to say an oilers goal dose not count and most the time there right. They also will say Edmonton took stupid penalties and it’s more 60-40 type of bias of course they want Edmonton to win but they are not Jack Edwards type crazy

[@wieran35000vr]

Really like Johnson and Mudryk's Habs on TSN calls, they have fun and are critical enough to make me not feel lied to. But man do I miss Bob Cole... "Oh baby".

[@ryanyost4640]

I’d like to see a ranking of all broadcasts, since I enjoy experimenting with different broadcasts to enjoy the fan culture, but it is a bit hard to find time to truly enjoy it

[@mjwatts1983]

9:35 I grew up listening to Ralph & Razor. Also the Stars TV voices are also the radio voices (started on WBAP 820, now The Ticket)

[@noahwhiteside]

Chris Cuthbert and Gord Miller are the best play by play announcers in the game bar none. I miss the days when they’d do all the TSN broadcasts along with Jim Hughson. Grew up playing the NHL games with him and it’s safe to say I’ve never heard anyone do it better “great save luongo” or “it’s a HOWITZER” are branded into my memory. Great calls. Awesome vid Shannon - Jets Fan

[@Mukunda16108]

I wish everyone could experience the professionalism and remarkable fairness of the French RDS broadcast. In my experience, their commentator and hockey analysts ( Alain Crete, Marc Denis, Pierre Houde, Denis Gauthier to name just a few) are some of the very best. I always learn a lot hearing from them. Lots of nuances that can only be delivered by people that have been players and or coaches. Last season, between the playoff games, their offered remarkable depth in their analysis of the game, and the ability to clearly communicate intricate topics.

[@onyxdragon]

Been listening to Mickey Redmond for so many seasons. He's the best overall. Another great voice was the 'late' Dave Strader. Also, I really miss Don Cherry and Jeremy Roenick for their opinions (like Paul Bissonette for TNT). Dan Rusanowsky (Sharks) and Tom Reid (Wild) are great on the radio waves. Altitude Sports is hilarious.

[@erikjohnson3434]

Love how you always hear Mickey Redmond saying Oh No all the time when the Wings are playing badly

[@bry2298]

Great insight. You definitely know your stuff. 100% agree on TNT/ESPN. They are often distracted and focus on non-hockey stuff and I have also noticed they are beholden to whom ever is the bigger market.

[@bigdoggames9795]

I love your presentation on this. You did a great job. Couldn't agree more. I am from Halifax N.S. Canada. I a huge Bruins fan as well. Love the channel. Keep up the good work.

[@allfields]

I'm from Vancouver so I really like John & John for Sportsnet Canucks. Also a big fan of the animated play by play of Jack Michaels for the Oilers. Singh needs to go, simple as that. You can't have that poor level of play by play on nationally broadcasted hockey games.

[@Taco1011]

Agreed, Singh is Romanuk 2.0 as far as I’m concerned

[@107Nickt]

1000% agree RE Jack Michaels

[@countrystud1986]

Jack Michaels is awful. Homer to the max, tries to rev up the energy as if its a WWE broadcast and is obviously in love with his own voice. Just has a real arrogance/fakeness to him. Rick Ball/Kelly Rhudey is the best team for me.

[@107Nickt]

@@countrystud1986 lol yeah, he can be a Homer. Hard to find one that isn't, I think fans enjoy that to a point. Flames team good like you mentioned though. Not a fan of Cassie when she is doing color though. I miss Hughson and Emrick

[@BlueOysterWizard99]

Singh > Michaels and it's not even close

[@nickgazerro292]

Josh Bogorad and Daryl ""Razor" Reaugh hands down are the best announcers in hockey. So good, Dallas doesn't need a separate radio crew. They KNOW how to call a game, don't get monotone when the other team scores.

[@colliesis]

I hate, hate, hate Bally Sports. Not because they're even that *bad*, I just hate how they spoil other games' scores on the bottom of the screen. It bugs me when I want to watch the highlights the following morning :(

[@joshuanorgan8620]

Detroits broadcasting team is amazing! I really enjoy listening to them and they can make the game even more enjoyable!

[@ryanodd4149]

Our brains work the same way, I love the way you categorize things on the whiteboard with the magnets. Big props!

[@shawnfox445]

I’ve seen people claim Ken and Mickey are the biggest homers out of them all,(literally seen people say they are worse than Boston’s 🤦🏻‍♂️) but that’s what happens if you only watch highlights.. But if you watch a whole game you realize Mickey just hates when cheap penalties are called or something blatant is missed. (Whether it’s the Wings or the opposing team, and he does call ALL of them out.) Or Mickey talking about how great certain players are playing, and he seems to pay attention to A LOT of other games. And Mickey’s love of tough and exciting hockey is infectious. When the Wings aren’t playing good, he’s brutal lol And in Mickey’s voice…. “OHH BABY HERE WE GO”

[@journeymanedc]

I totally agree. I think Ken and Mick are extremely fair to both teams on the call. They'll call out a ticky-tack penalty on either team and Ken has said in interviews that he makes it a point to call an opposing teams goal with some level of enthusiasm because he believes that's doing justice to the great game of hockey. They're both class acts and us Detroit fans are spoiled to have them.

[@RRaquello]

Redmond's got that old fashioned Canadian accent that it seemed all the old announcers had, like the Hewitts and Danny Galivan and Dick Irvin, Harry Neale and Howie Meeker. I'm not Canadian, but they used to pick up the HNIC broadcasts sometimes here in the states for the syndicated NHL game of the week package, so I got to hear them a lot. Redmond is about the last guy around who has that sound to his voice.

[@mackandzie]

mickey redmond is so good. if i have the option to watch the wings broadcast i do it every time. he's that enjoyable.

[@Rps2800]

I'm really glad you grouped Altitude with NESN, because whenever I hear people complaining about NESN's homerism, I find it funny that no one ever brings up Altitude in the same breath. Maybe it's because no one gets the channel, even in Colorado! I also heard that the Columbus broadcast called Marchand "Mr. Evil" the other day... but maybe that's not too inaccurate sometimes 😂

[@InfinteIdeas]

I despise Jack Edwards, the other guy on NESN is fine

[@Rps2800]

@@InfinteIdeas I actually think Brick is a big homer as well, people just don’t notice it as clearly as Jack. Jack will say something that’s obviously biased, while Brick can say the same thing in a different tone using different words and get no heat for it because he just sounds more objective

[@InfinteIdeas]

@@Rps2800 it's not about homerism, it's that Jack is an asshole and encourages bad behavior from the players and fans, and has said boderline bigoted things on the broadcast. He also sounds drunk quite often. (I'm a Caps fan livingin New England)

[@Rps2800]

@@InfinteIdeas Idk about that

[@alsleet442]

Jody Shelley took some heat for not defending CBJ during a recent game he's been more critical lately didn't hear the Mr.Evil comment CBJ broadcast is just meh your right about Colorado,as much of a homer as Edwards i still like the broadcast

[@clydeblair9622]

Used to listen to French Habs broadcasts on am radio in the 70s. "Oh, Dryden block!, Lafleur mark!, la premiere toile Bob Gainey!".

[@william9835]

Your comments on Penguins announcing is spot on. As a Penguins fan I’m frustrated with how homey they are. Another annoying thing is in a 20 minute period they may actually only call a couple minutes of play by play. They constantly just chat about history, or non hockey topics or just plan nonsense. I often watch with the tv muted and listen to the radio broadcast even with the delay. I’m also annoyed with Network broadcasters that do not actually call the game. I feel a television broadcast should be done like a radio broadcast. If I’m not looking at the tv I should still be told what’s happening. Thanks for your review. Very enlightening!