My Proxmox Basic Initial Setup

[@majorpayne4795]

Your ZFS information about the RAM is inaccurate. From the ZFS dev Some well meaning people years ago thought that they could be helpful by making a rule of thumb for the amount of RAM needed for good write performance with data deduplication. While it worked for them, it was wrong. Some people then started thinking that it applied to ZFS in general. ZFS' ARC being reported as used memory rather than cached memory reinforced the idea that ZFS needed plenty of memory when in fact it was just used in an evict-able cache. The OpenZFS developers have been playing whack a mole with that advice ever since. I am what I will call a second generation ZFS developer because I was never at Sun and I postdate the death of OpenSolaris. The first generation crowd could probably fill you in on more details than I could with my take on how it started. You will not find any of the OpenZFS developers spreading the idea that ZFS needs an inordinate amount of RAM though. I am certain of that A system with 1 GB of RAM would not have much trouble with a pool that contains 1 exabyte of storage, much less a petabyte or a terabyte. The data is stored on disk, not in RAM with the exception of cache. That just keeps an extra copy around and is evicted as needed. The only time when more RAM might be needed is when you are turn on data deduplication. That causes 3 disk seeks for each DDT miss when writing to disk and tends to slow things down unless there is enough cache for the DDT to avoid extra disk seeks. The system will still work without more RAM. It is just that the deduplication code will slow down writes when enabled. That 1GB of RAM per 1TB data stored "rule" is nonsense though. The number is a function of multiple variables, not a constant. I can provide you the links to this if you want me too

[@DBTechYT]

Thanks for the info. I guess I got some mixed up information somewhere along the line, so thanks for clarifying. I think I remembered hearing it from LTT, but then found the quote you left on the forum, so that must be where I heard it.

[@majorpayne4795]

@@DBTechYT Yes, It comes from the LTT Reddit by one of the ZFS Devs. So while your information is accurate it's only accurate in a very specific subset of users.

[@msedv5424]

Please the links! Thanks for sharing knowledge

[@DBTechYT]

linustechtips.com/topic/738402-zfs-memory-requirements/

[@compthing5656]

Wow! that's interesting. I think it's just the whole LTT gang and a good chunk of truenas users giving advice about things they don't understand. I do use truenas and this will defenitly be interesting. I will most likely be virtualising it using proxmox, so i def will play around with the ram and see how it changes performance if it changes performance at all since i use SSDs as a cache. Thanks for sharing

[@adamantium9043]

I have recently been searching youtube for good tutorials on proxmox and LXC containers. have only found separate videos that were hard to follow. As a n00b I would like to thank you for this, ill be setting up my proxmox server now. Legend!

[@farzadmf]

REALLY nice walkthough. I really, really like these ones that you do with no assumption what your audience knows and you show and go through every single step, love it

[@DBTechYT]

Thanks!! I actually felt like I kinda rushed through this one, but I'm glad it's still helpful :)

[@farzadmf]

It definitively is

[@zebracasket]

Awesome! Thanks, looking forward to more of this series.

[@DBTechYT]

More to come!

[@gavinf4667]

I'm brand new to Proxmox and this was such a huge help. Thank you!

[@msedv5424]

Nice, i didnt knew about the helperscript. Usefull!

[@DBTechYT]

Glad to hear that!

[@craigstone4051]

I noticed you opted to use a USB for Proxmox boot drive. Was there more intention there then keeping the hypervisor and the VHD storage separate? Do you have any concerns about Proxmox wearing out the USB quickly. I've read quite a bit that Proxmox/Debian writes will wear out the drive and Proxmox is not like ESXi that loads mostly into memory. Alternately I've read that people have run Proxmox off USB for years without the USB wearing out. I'm not positive but I think Proxmox fits in about 2-4GB of space for the boot drive so why bother with the USB boot? Food for thought.

[@LaneLarson]

Just got some new hardware to act as my new Proxmox server. Thanks for the refresher on setting it up. Super helpful video!

[@compthing5656]

This was a great video, love the dark theme, will def give it a shot. Can't wait for the next parts :D

[@mistakek]

I love the dark mode script. When I found that, ohh the joy :D. Thanks for the other helper script, I was doing all that stuff manually, though it's been a year since I've been running my cluster and hadn't needed to do it since, but it's nice that a script does all that for you.

[@njscorreia]

looking forward for this series. just ordered a ZimaBoard

[@therealjoejennings]

Big thumbs up on this! Been using ProxMox for years and this video had some real value and insight for me. I have been doing drive additions/configurations and eliminating the license nags through CLI all this time! I feel like a caveman after watching this video with GUI instructions and scripts to do everything!

[@B2DT11B]

Thank you. All my little nuanced questions were answered.

[@DannyCatacora]

Wow, so many things you can do with Proxmox. Curious how you'll setup your HA, either old laptops or raspberry pis? Maybe a Synology NAS between Nodes to store backups and ISOs. Maybe go over the different storage types and their use cases? I was also curious if having an lxc for docker would be better than having docker running on proxmox OS itself... Looking forward to this series!

[@cassio2999]

Thanks for the link to the post install scripts really useful

[@antonbotha2857]

Thanks for the basics and the scripts is cool.

[@DBTechYT]

Thanks for watching!! Really appreciate it! :)

[@AntonStolov]

Best pactice to install Proxmox - is over Debian, when you can preparing partitions, raid and etc.

[@enderst81]

Repos can be configured with a couple clicks in the webui under Updates. I consider the subscription nag as the price of free and leave it.

[@PizzaGoat323]

Tteks scripts are so amazing. Glad they are available

[@DBTechYT]

Same here!

[@MRPtech]

For my Proxmox setup i deleted local-lvm and merged that back to local. This way i had all disk dedicated to proxmox instead of being split. End result: boot drive 256GB for proxmox and ISOS 2TB SSD for everything else 3TB HDD for backups.

[@zebracasket]

Very cool idea. I did the same to help make things just seem to be less cluttered in my head while messing with HA and shared storage with the nodes. I need to go back and check my notes for the cli commands I used to make it work. If you'd like to share you guide on the disk management, I'm sure people would wanna try it and appreciate the help. I remember needing re-do my base install a few times since I messed it up pretty good in the beginning.

[@MRPtech]

@@zebracasket I hate cluttered setups. When something is not working it will take ages to troubleshoot. Everything basically sits on 3 drives. Boot drive + VMs sits on SSD and backup on HDD. out of all VM my main one is next cloud. that is why every file/photo/video gets synced to nextcloud gets replicated straight to 2 USB drives. i don't want to loose photos. everything else - i can rebuild. I know it will take time but when you thing. what has more value ? Skyrim game in Windows VM or my sons first steps ? With storage guide ... I hope DB Tech won't get mad at me for sharing my content :) If you go in to youtube and search for : mrp proxmox install and configure and look for my logo. You should find my video about setting up phoxmox. if you skip to part at 10min 15 sec you will see commands i used in CLI to sort my boot drive. If you need more help. look for me on twitter on insta.

[@zebracasket]

@@MRPtech I'll check it out. Thanks! I got a feeling inside that anyone sharing knowledge in some way or another, is welcomed hah

[@MRPtech]

@@zebracasket On my channel i loose a lot of interesting information from my followers due to weird youtube algorithm . Comments getting flags as spam or out right getting deleted before i even have a chance to see them. Anyway, if you will get stuck, let me know.

[@zebracasket]

@@MRPtech I've seen happen before with url links that are trying to be spelled out instead of full domains but who knows. KZbin does KZbin stuff; there is no answer to their madness.

[@biskero]

is it possible to do everything from one machine? installing proxmox with a GUI/browser?

[@emilie1977]

Thank you for these very interesting videos. I'm lost on shared storage. For example, I want the nextcloud container to share a folder with the photoprism container. Or a container with deluge with plex. I can't setup an nfs server and have it communicate with clients

[@MichaelBullutKE]

I mainly work with HP Proliant servers & configure either RAID 1 or 5 depending on the goals/needs of the project. I wanted to ask if there's any danger in using the entire hard disk capacity like in VMWare ESXi deployments when installing the Proxmox operating system? Or can I reserve one hard disk slot for the O.S. & use the rest (configured with RAID) for the installation & configuration of virtual machines?

[@kevinlegobrickmaster8015]

Dropped a sub thanks for the introduction I’m doing research into proxmox and what it does

[@drbyte2009]

Thanks David for this nice video! I'am going to do this serie on my old laptop.

[@DBTechYT]

Go for it!

[@mauriciob3334]

thanks I had to setup a lab very fast and this helped a lot, great vid!

[@DBTechYT]

Thanks for checking out the video!

[@floridametaldetecting]

Very cool video! I went to check out the ZimaBoard, but everything is on pre-order. Jury is still out, but looking promising to change from esxi to promox. Thanks you!

[@amb7247]

I want to do proxmox for primarily opnsense, Pie-Hole, ubiquiti controller. I have two 500GB SSDs I want to use. Will likely not use ZFS due to it's write logging that can wear down consumer SSDs. To my main point: How can I set aside or split up the space on the 500GB drive just for proxmox, say 50GB for that, 8GB for OPNsense, 100 for pie-hole and 20GB for ubiquit controller. I'm leaving room for expansion My other ssd I may turn into a storage / ubuntu VM instllation so I'd like to split that up as well. Thank you.

[@vulcan4d]

After many years of using OpenMediaVault I might move to this eventually when my server has more memory. Using LXC containers it seems like you are forced to allocate memory. Docker containers usually don't care.

[@kopparsulfat]

Tried to install proxmox but i had some problem right from the start. It don´t have any drivers for Intel i250 nic...

[@ChrisDePasqualeNJ]

I follow you and always like it when I'm the first to, "Like". :-) Good video. But I'm really hopping someone does a Video on crowd sec for Raspberry PI. 64. :-)

[@p30mehrdad]

awsome series, thanks

[@DBTechYT]

Glad you like them!

[@didierdel2319]

Bonjour, je me pose la question quel est le mieux, est-ce VMware Workstation Pro ou Proxmox. Le but est d'utiliser aussi la carte graphique et de faire facilement un copier/coller, pour installer des jeux ou programmes.

[@nadpul]

I followed your instructions but I cannot resolve the hostname on my local network, everything works using the server’s IP. Any clues? Thank you.

[@yourpcmd]

This is exactly what I've been looking for. I have a Dell R420 with 2 10c 20t CPU's and 192Gb ram. It has a 120Gb SSD for Proxmox and has 4 12Tb NAS drives for storage/VM's. Which raid ZFS would you suggest for the pool?

[@andreasrichman5628]

Do I have to separate physical disks for each VM and also separate physical disk for the proxmox itself?

[@krisjhonpapasin4078]

Hi DB Tech! just want to ask if you ever encounter this issue with Proxmox. After I install proxmox in a Dell Optiplex 3046 device, whenever my server is ON - I am encountering intermittent internet connection in my network. Note that there are no VMs intalled yet. Did you happen to encounter this kind of issue?

[@elmo2396]

before 1 day looking for a app that work, finally i found

[@NB-568]

Can you cover adding an SSL certificate (Letsencrypt)

[@DBTechYT]

To what?

[@NB-568]

@@DBTechYT to the proxmox server to secure accessing the web interface over https

[@supershane4141]

How do i install Proxmox using the Grub Boot loader

[@InSaiyan-Shinobi]

Can I use a 1700x ryzen cpu and my x570 motherboard to try this out I’m super new to this but it’s some hardware I have laying around and wondered if I can do this

[@DBTechYT]

That setup should work really well! :)

[@normanpeterson3961]

Looking forward to the series I am playing with proxmx. I am running with 16gb ram. I am running ubuntu server, windows 10 and windows 11 vm’s. I need more ram

[@DBTechYT]

Definitely sounds like you need more RAM

[@telferxd]

Tysm, did everything as described

[@DBTechYT]

Glad it helped!

[@antonykodinye4724]

Silly question maybe, but why didnt you use the Zimaboard onboard storage?

[@DBTechYT]

Couple of reasons. 1: EMMC is just slower overall. 2. Proxmox writes a lot of logs and that will degrade the EMMC much faster and there's more likely going to be a failure of the EMMC.

[@antonykodinye4724]

@@DBTechYT Ahh learning alot from your video's, thank you kind sir.

[@jamesfrizzell3628]

Everyone seems to be saying to never run ProxMox from a USB flash drive. The read/writes will kill it. Have you run into any issues? Any concerns?

[@DBTechYT]

I've heard the same. I never had any issues, but I ended up switching from the ZimaBoard in this video to a LattePanda 3 with an NVMe M.2 boot drive and a SATA M.2 data drive since I made this video because I wanted a different setup.

[@joaquinsanchez-oc2yl]

bro, looks good, thanks!

[@diffenbacher92]

I checked - everything is clean

[@omerameen5900]

I'm facing some problem. Installed proxmox and connected the proxmox machine to another router and now I can't change connect to web GUI. Help!

[@DBTechYT]

You're going to have to plug a mouse, keyboard, and monitor into your Proxmox system and then follow these instructions: www.servethehome.com/how-to-change-primary-proxmox-ve-ip-address/

[@omerameen5900]

@@DBTechYT when i change my ip to 192.168.2.3 and netmask to 255.255.252.0 . My PVE is not even showing in Router settings and I can't even ping it.

[@omerameen5900]

@@DBTechYT Currenlty when I nano /etc/network/interfaces it shows iface enp1s0 inet manual auto vmbr0 iface vmbr 0net static address 192.168.1.4/24 gateway 192.168.1.1 bridge-ports enp1s0 bridge-stp off bridge-fd 0 i checked my asus router Clients-->Wired--> my IP is showing 192.168.1.4. I can also ping to 192.168.1.4. but GUI is not connecting.

[@dasgoll]

Where can I watch your old video on Proxmox where you used LVM not ZFS???

[@DBTechYT]

There was no video on this topic. It's just something I did while I was learning. But you can just select LVM instead of ZFS when you're creating your disk

[@TheMadRocker]

Late to ask,but did you have to change boot order or did it just pick it up.

[@DBTechYT]

You might depending on your system's BIOS/UEFI

[@sidy1611]

Is it possible for you to make a video is proxmox + mac os . I know that there are lot of video online for that but what I like about you is way you explain and make things simpler

[@DBTechYT]

I would LOVE to make this video, but You need a real Mac available in order to fetch the OSK key and I don't have any Mac devices. :(

[@sidy1611]

@@DBTechYT for all mac it's the same Os key now. ourhardworkbythesewordsguardedpleasedontsteal(c)AppleComputerInc

[@7mile73]

I'm stuck at login, how do I get to the environment? I'm using laptop

[@DBTechYT]

In your browser, you need to go to the IP address of your Proxmox server. Should look something like this: 192.168.0.160:8006/ replace the 192.169.0.160 with the IP of your Proxmox server. Make sure you keep the :8006 on the end. Then you'll need to enter the username and password. The username is root. the password is whatever you set during the setup process.

[@YannMetalhead]

Good video!

[@DBTechYT]

Thanks for the visit!

[@MelroyvandenBerg]

Dark theme is by default available in proxmox nowadays

[@UneducatedEngineer444]

I can't access the web interface

[@DBTechYT]

did you type in: https at the beginning? did you add :8006 to the end?

[@UneducatedEngineer444]

@@DBTechYT Honestly I spent an entire week trying to figure it out, I ended up switching to unraid. I was having some kind of ip address issue and never resolved it.

[@UneducatedEngineer444]

@@DBTechYT Whatever it was, it wasnt proxmox fault. it was just my lack of knowledge. ill try again one of these days

[@b.angelekunkowski4892]

I am so greatful for you

[@darrensmith016]

What about unRaid?

[@DBTechYT]

Give it time. I'm sure we'll get there.

[@darrensmith016]

@@DBTechYT I’ve used unraid for years, but I’ll install Proxmox on my Gen7 to see what all the fuss is about.

[@MRPtech]

I am proxmox user for quite some time now. Just couple days ago i wanted to check unraid. created usb key and passed that in to unraid VM on proxmox. got myself unraid virtualised inside proxmox with 1TB USB drive passed. inside that USB drive i have created 3 virtual drives 256GB each and got unraid going. 2 drives + parity drive. imo unraid is NAS first and Hypervisor 2nd. same with truenas. proxmox is Hypervisor 1st followed by everything else..

[@darrensmith016]

@@MRPtech ahh ok, I guess that’s fair. Depends what you want from your machine really.

[@RoastLambShanks]

My browser doesn't connect. Guess i'll have to start googling again.

[@RoastLambShanks]

OK I fixed it. I went to /etc/network then: nano interfaces i changed the IP Address something else. and rebooted. Funny thing is. the splash screen still shows the original IP... but my browser on my other machine can now see proxmox at the new IP.

[@DBTechYT]

I think you'll also want to change the hosts file to get the IP to show correctly on the splash screen

[@RoastLambShanks]

@@DBTechYT ah ok. I just reinstalled the whole thing 😀 - anyway, thanks i've used your vids to get my proxmox up and running. Next step is to get portainer, portainer agent in the template.

[@FTLN]

Running 7.2-3 here and script does not get rid of pop up nag.....

[@MRPtech]

i am on 7.2-4 and pop up still here. or got used to it so not that big of a deal for me

[@lochnessmonster4518]

Interesting. Glad I read these comments before trying. Hopefully it will updated soon. Does dark mode still work or don't bother? **Edit** Nevermind....it works!

[@Tom_Neverwinter]

cant get past gateway. proxmox claims any gateway I give it is invalid. att sucks.

[@eIektrinis]

you show one disk connected, but then during install you have two disks.

[@DBTechYT]

one of the disks was probably the installation USB?

[@ChioTB]

i wanted to see in details but you jump to browser !! to your desktop ! so i ask you : what happend after you write " root and your password " ? did the proxmox appeard immediately? i mean how you have webbrowser ??? !! are you in windows ?? you moved so quickly to your site to your Proxmo desktop ! and i wanted to know step by step, it seems i never can pass to the desktop !! its kind of " double " passwords !! kind of ( tty1) as if Proxmox are not sure ! very unusuale . so i ask you again : after you log in root and your password WHAT HAPPEND? did you enter any second time password ?? or you just waited ?? SOMETHING IS WRONG AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT can't get it !

[@DBTechYT]

As people have suggested with my content in the past, I would encourage you to go back and re-watch it at .5x speed and pause when necessary

[@KPCflipping]

Sorry, but many holes in the explanation. If I am doing it on laptop, what then? All net settings are impossible because of the wifi. Also, I'm getting black screen from the beginning, I can't get even to this first screen " I am agree". Guessing it's because of the GTX 750 ti video card. I don't know man, everyone saying that this is super easy stuff to do, but obviously not for me. Please if someone's know how to get this installation done to help me. My goal is to install MacOS. Configuration: CPU I5 4560 GPU GTX 750 TI Ram 12 GB HDD SSD 512, Optical HDD 2TB, and second 8TB

[@DBTechYT]

You don't install this on a laptop. Proxmox is a Linux-based hypervisor operating system that is used for virtual machines. It's not just an install for Mac or windows.

[@KPCflipping]

@@DBTechYT I known that, but still lot of people's doing exactly this. In the end it's a virtual environment, why not? Even this method of installing MacOS beats Hakintosh way. They coll it "New way" Wherever, I will try to do it again, but before that, have to lurn everything in advance. Cheers 🥂

[@raul230285]

Amaxzingg....!!!

[@DBTechYT]

Thanks!!

[@repairstudio4940]

I gotta toaster ass Toshi lappy 💻 I'm hoping to slap Proxmox on. It's x86 and I tossed a 256 GB SSD and more RAM...but still it's a toaster running Linux Mint with Cairo dock with a Penguin animation that floats down and dances across the dock, so yeeeeah it's time. 🐧🎶 LoL 😁

[@jayv_tech]

Anddd here it is!

[@xandokay]

why does everyone just breeze by the ip and gateway part without explaining anything

[@DBTechYT]

I think because you should have at least a foundational understanding of IP stuff if you're going to get into this kind of stuff?

[@ronm6585]

Thanks.

[@DBTechYT]

Welcome!

[@SB-qm5wg]

So proxmox is not open source? subscription?

[@immortalmayfly98]

It's open-source 🙄

[@LucySarahA]

TNice tutorials guy explains tNice tutorials better than teachers explain good eating habits

[@MelroyvandenBerg]

Do not use zfs on a consumer ssds!

[@terryyan9720]

yay

[@KarthikS30712]

Who else knows Scotty Kilmer?

[@bridgetrobertson7134]

I notice my comment got deleted, lol. Touched a Google nerve.

[@DBTechYT]

KZbin comments have been on crack for a long time now

[@mikelock-zr5ru]

clustering and hi-availability? This is not Basic initial set-up. At the beginning of the video you say "now this is going to be a very basic setup and i do want to make this as uh kind of user-friendly entry-level friendly as possible." You scared me off after the first 5 minutes.

[@vinkerdoodles]

Everyone saying thank you because they are a noob makes feel like more of a noob, I have no idea what you're talking about, I'm like a deer in headlights and these videos are like getting hit by a car.

[@DBTechYT]

so... what issues are you having? what are you not understanding? maybe I can help. and if not me, then maybe someone else.

[@paulrickett7564]

You need to learn about ergonomics so your not looking up to the ceiling to see the monitor.

[@DBTechYT]

twitter.com/davidnburgess/status/1545966982742257665?t=eCKRhB9EWxC-S9m7hGABMA&s=19

[@benniwissner139]

Sa

[@arete_]

Why are you so stressed? It's like you are doing this on gun point

[@DBTechYT]

I'm not stressed. I talk fast. I move fast. It's just who I am. I don't know what else to tell you.

[@obiwanbonjovi3302]

Guessing it's safe to presume after his Windows cdkey fiasco, this is also a disguised endorsement. I mean come on, even the monitor in background is displaying the company's logo. Who does that but a paid endorsement.

[@DBTechYT]

What? What logo? The monitor behind me has my logo on it but that's it.

[@DBTechYT]

Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6vPfKSQg86omaM