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[@rolandserna7805]

This has to be the kindest way I've ever seen someone expose lies and hypocrisy

[@user-yw3re2xv9s]

The people of the United States are really not right in the head, they cannot be without criticizing anyone and without bothering others, I think 10% of their population should only be normal

[@Erron2005]

Knowing that the music industry is a lot better when it comes to things like this when it comes to 2D artists from what I have seen, because maturity is an expectation, and everyone knows eachother, it can be surprising when you see this kind of thing when you are used to people getting blasted because X and Y or because they made an illustration of a controversial person. I might be wrong here, feel free to correct me if I am.

[@TheCyanKiller]

Agreed.

[@jackiehadi6410]

the saddest part is, im sure his team who reply the coment in this video too 🥲

[@Nickdeaugustine]

@@noodlebob13 JVKE is a liar and Klavier is exposing the truth. Don't shoot the messenger, dude.

[@stairfall12345678900]

loop tracks are definitely used by artists everywhere nowadays, he isnt wrong about that but for the rest, there are just too many inconsistencies with the videos and the messaging for it to be believable and there's nothing wrong with being a huge artist who writes beautiful and inspiring music & also be supported by a huge team + be under a record label just... don't lie to people. its the worst thing you could ever do for your public image

[@Jamaicafunk]

Ed Sheeran does it..But he's doing live looping which is a bit different from what seems to be happening here.

[@user-yw3re2xv9s]

You know what the real problem is that people don't care and nobody cares that I use loops or pre-recorded tracks since 100% of the artists do it when they appear on TV in videos and in concerts, the problem is that people like this a guy who is a failure and lousy pianist starts throwing shit at someone who never messed with him just for visits, without caring about the work or the problems of jake or his team. And to top it off, it monetizes the videos. I mean, this German is a horrible person

[@cockadoodledoo9862]

@@Jamaicafunk yea that’s a totally different thing

[@fariszahran3654]

True

[@keiraholst1563]

Krystian Zimmerman had production cuts in his official release. They were not done in one take. People noted his position shifted on the piano's bench and other inconsistencies? Does that make him lesser of an artist? Ponder that ...

[@existentbeing9678]

As a fellow pianist I would say absolutely it is worth putting the time in to perfect this performance. I was super happy for JVKE when this song went viral, it felt like one of my kin really made it. Now that I see that the performances were dubbed and at best transposed, it kind of ruins things for me and I bet it would for a lot of people. And regarding the viral teacher videos the first one looked like a real piano and the audio from the two videos are identical so his explanation here doesn’t even hold water. Judging by some of his fingering I bet he could learn to play this piece live perfectly in no time. I sure would if this were my song.

[@EyeZee]

Hard fax. I’m completely baffled by the idea of him not wanting to perfect the song. It’ll pay off so much in the long run

[@briantim2313]

Agreed it would've been great to see him play it properly (I'm a pianist too), but I think it just wasn't a priority for the time being. Being a songwriter first and going viral like that entails a lot more factors than just playing the piano. Hopefully when the hype dies down he can focus more time/energy on practicing, especially if he's gonna be performing more often

[@jellymelon4377]

@@EyeZee and if he had practiced the song to begin with, he wouldn't have this negative 'press'

[@fi3axrn]

I really respect musicians, I can't play instruments and don't even know notes, but I still can recognize fake music video or dubbed or whatever.. and watching them always make me angry.. how could people choose the easy way for clout meanwhile the real musicians out there practice for hours and hours to play even a piece and make their own piece...

[@briantim2313]

@@jellymelon4377 For sure, I think it was just a tough situation. By going viral you gotta act fast, might've not had time to practice like that. Couldn't win over everyone but he could at least win over the majority faking it. Man wrote a great song and got propelled into a whole different world he probably wasn't ready for is my take. Hopefully he proves us a legitimate performer down the road

[@SilviF..]

JVKE is still young. I hope that he develops the ambition not only to rely on the technique, but also to learn it "properly". Because when the day comes and there's only an acoustic piano and he wants to sing in a different key, he'd have to say, "Sorry, I can't do that now." No artist wants to experience such moments.

[@viantria]

that's a really good point

[@Lyulff]

and not lie

[@phyo.lin19]

The fact that he is relying on transpose tells that dude is going nowhere. To make it worse, he covered it up by labelling himself “songwriter”. It’s pessimistic. But he could improve from this experience and start learning piano.

[@SilviF..]

@@phyo.lin19 Some people take the easy and quick route and find success quickly. In the long run, it may or may not backfire. Today's technology, AI and fast pace are increasingly replacing the old craft. Ultimately, everyone decides for himself how he wants to achieve his goals and if he does it with all his heart and honestly, he has my respect. We'll see how his music goes on. I wish him continued success and hope that he works on himself. He's still young and will make his way, learn from his mistakes and one day he will definitely become more ambitious.

[@AmberJays]

@@SilviF.. - Sadly there's no such thing as an easy or quick route when it comes to music, it's one of the few things that will always require patience and regular practice. One of the biggest mistakes a lot of people do when trying to establish a career as a singer is that they don't ever train their ears. Training the ears is just as important as training the voice; and far too many of them only ever get as far as developing decent relative pitch, but when it comes to true pitch they are completely lost. Totally understand that when we are young we are very eager to push ahead, but really that only has one ending, where you eventually need to go right back to the drawing board to learn it all properly. Whether you're a musician or a singer, the same applies to both fields; it's imperative to establish a solid core understanding of your craft, because every house needs a stable foundation. But, it's his mistake to make, and one I hope he will some day learn from.

[@engr_nie]

I just watched ur vid observing jvkes piano skills an hour ago, and couldnt get more surprised it has another sequel too soon LMAO

[@werdemusiker]

Of course… :)

[@hayaus7436]

same lol

[@OfficialBost]

Bro this me too

[@iazerrrrrrrrrr]

Same lol

[@STANNco]

same here

[@mjvst]

speaking from an audio engineer's perspective: that last point that JKVE made was this: - He would use the official song (that's released on platforms) and layer that onto the video, to make it sound better - I don't know any other artists that does this, but a similar situation would be artists lip sync-ing during live performances, with the same aim to make them sound better I think what he's doing w the audio is fine, but the general idea of making it seem like a genuine thing kills it. I'd rather have a raw performance (with a few mistakes), to give a more heartfelt and real performance. That's what makes us human. If we're 100% correct all the time it'll make the performances (& life in general) very boring and monotonous. I love it when musicians make mistakes on stage bc it shows that even though they messed up they still move on, putting that mistake off to the side.

[@EarthyLee]

Well my question is, how many Artists do you know who is at least on JKVE's level on a personal or professional mode? I also know alot of artists, all from youtube :P

[@alanmatkovic3221]

I disagree with you. What does looping or layering have to do with the prerecorded track??? He didn’t loop or layer anything in real time there. He can lie to people who are mostly his fans - people with no or very little music experience. I play several instruments and produce music for years and years and all his excuses are so bad I’m starting to second guess if he ever producer the song. Honestly. He sounds like someone who learned a few key terms and just bounces them around without any logic behind it to layoff the crowd who doesn’t know better. Seriously. Looping doesn’t have anything to with his pre-recorded song he puts over his live performance. Layering as well. He’s talking bull

[@oxCelestialxo]

That was the quickest response EVER 💀 bro got his feelings hurt.

[@yoyocolombo]

😢

[@enchilada1792]

I can confirm, it is possible to learn that song pretty quickly. My 12-year-old brother was able to learn it exactly how it is in the recording in around 2 weeks (practicing every day) and he didn't even write the song!

[@user-rv7ge1tc4l]

yeah, so he should now learn how to sing and perform it at the late late show in front of 10 million people

[@z0h33y]

@@user-rv7ge1tc4l This is Jvke's entire job is to write songs and perform them, its not like this is some side-gig that he stumbled into.

[@paulofilipe8960]

@@user-rv7ge1tc4l WOW comparing a 12 year old to a 22 year old lol

[@user-rv7ge1tc4l]

@@paulofilipe8960 didn't the top comment do it first?

[@paulofilipe8960]

@@user-rv7ge1tc4l The guy was praising his brother you where just trying to compare both, taking the credit out.

[@alamcho]

his "response" was kind of weird though, As a music enjoyer myself: YES, i would rather listen to a musician who practiced a song for 100+ hours, lol

[@tszling713]

Can not agree more with you 👍🏻as a classical music player, seeing all the great artist’s live performance is definitely life changing. You can tell how devoted they are to music and they really respect the music, the composer, and the audience👍🏻

[@alexie101010]

100% agree! That part was super defensive and raised my BS meters lol. Oh well. There are many musicians that work hard at their craft to perfect live performing and singing. It’s a hard thing to do, and I wish he was a bit more honest in his response

[@pedroewert143]

musician/instrumentalist slight differences- anna netrebko- dr dre are musicians - dont play instruments on a high level jake is a rapper/producer and somewhere last on the list instrumentalist - but yeah maybe he shouldnt put the piano so much in focus then

[@BarackObamaJedi]

And in 100 hours he'd learn much more than to play the same song in different keys... funny how he says he'd rather use that time to make more songs, but Golden Hour is the only one I've heard from him in about a full year

[@BarackObamaJedi]

@@Frank_inSA fair enough, but the point stands. He's went all in on Golden Hour from a marketing perspective, most people only know him through that. Even if there were that tradeoff between playing skills and volume of songs produced (or indeed marketed) as he claims, he'd still be better off either getting better at piano (so that the one big song IS perfectly performable without added tracks, and his "persona" is not a façade, which is much more appreciable from musician and not musician fans) or promoting more diverse stuff (instead of fake reactions and digital tracks tiktoks; the duets where people filled in the chorus i really liked and don't count as repetition)

[@joseavila7313]

Complex piece? C’mon that sounds like practice excercises for piano 101. Imagine Freddie Mercury playing all his songs in C mayor 😂

[@sierrarose8727]

I was gonna say...für Elise is more complex

[@antareepgogoi6065]

I have watched all of your videos on JVKE and I agree that all these gimmicks are disappointing. However, I would like to point out some things: 1) AWAL literally means Artists Without A Label. So JVKE is partially correct that he has no label and still has rights to the music and creativity. BUT yes, it’s DEFINITELY NOT only him and his brother. 2) the tiktok videos playing for his teacher and his mother, it has the same audio and jvke doesn’t try to hide that as you can clearly see the same audio source on the bottom of the tiktok video which links to the official audio. Best case scenario, he really played it, but layered the audio of original song with the video along with the original audio of the video. (Yes that’s a feature which exists in both instagram and tiktok and it’s pretty common to do that). Worst case scenario, the teachers are just fake paid actors. 3) The “loops and layers” thing, he was probably addressing the part where you can hear both the melody and chords but you can only hear him playing the chords. I have seen people like charlie puth do the same. The melody loops repeat on the synth(or keyboard) and you just have to play the chords.

[@flashbang8639]

the whole point of AWAL is to give "artists wihout labels" a label lol

[@cedricdavis513]

@@flashbang8639 yet it calls itself a label which is owned by one of the biggest labels. lmfao jvke is a liar and is trying to sell hope

[@thank4049]

Your 2nd point is legit but I don’t think your 3rd point is right tho cause we don’t actually here what he’s playing. You’re right almost every artist use backing tracks a and the problem is not he using backing tracks the problem he didn’t actually play on top of backing tracks❤❤ I hope I’m wrong tho his song is beautiful

[@antareepgogoi6065]

@@thank4049 you’re most probably right. I just mentioned it because from this video, Thomas seemed to have absolutely no idea what jvke meant by loop tracks.

[@swanofnutella4734]

"Artists Without A Label" It's right in the name, so it MUST be true. Just like "The Patriot Act"

[@teebbeeis]

So basically industry plant gets called out, makes excuses, and says practicing the instrument he became “famous” for playing well is too much of a hassle.

[@alexie101010]

Sounds about right lol nice summary

[@BreakofDawn]

Yeah, I see a lot of people defending him cuz “he needs to write songs and play in front of people and that’s nerve wracking.” Ray Charles and Stevie wonder both were song writers, who could play piano well, all while singing, and on top of that they were blind! It’s fine if he’s too lazy to improve his piano playing, but using excuses like “he needs to write songs, so he has no time” is pretty lame. You always have time, if you make time, you just don’t want to

[@yeetmaster2847]

nah man, i think it was a more than legit answer from him. He uses loops like everybody else and i would also have better things to do than practice one song of mine to perfectness. it is not a chopin etude that is changing and evolving within its score. its just a basic song and practicing that enough to get it all perfectly right is veeeeeeery hard. not for a lang lang but for a normal person and jvke is a normal dude who makes good music so let him focus on that and not on perfectioning a song that he can perform as same as good as if he learned the whole thing perfectly. theres just no reason for him to do that and i personally totally respect it. especially because im a musician myself

[@teebbeeis]

I’d like to see him playing an actual piano and singing just in a room with no electronics. Just an acoustic piano and his voice.

[@official_rown]

he ain't a plant, most label signed acts have more than 20 people managing their socials

[@zusterx9728]

Imagine paying hundred of dollars just to see this man playing LIVE and thats what you get back- "loop tracks or layers"

[@helloarifah]

This is hilarious 😂

[@Fujindisguise]

...have you never been to a concert before?

[@Shadowsphere1]

Ever been to a rap show? EDM? Modern pop concern? I mean... pick your poison. Even artists with 100 million net worth are using backing tracks, even full vocals playing in the back. Half the time rappers just let the studio recording play while they go "ay, eh, ah, yo yo yo, ay" with a few parts done live. Hate to say it, but JVKE is correct on that front, and it's just something formal music communities probably won't understand because they aren't in the industry of mass producing a product. Yes, product. That's what music is in that part of the industry.

[@kaamilhashmi6565]

People don't pay to hear him play the piano live, they pay for him to perform his songs live... He's not a pianist, he's an artist and several artists do this in their shows

[@jaybm1560]

@@Fujindisguise just got back from one was all live but guess your used to being scammed

[@ArtistUnknownOfficial]

I am NOT a professional pianist, but this song took me all of 30 minutes to play from simply LISTENING to it, and I did not transpose either. A song this beautiful does not deserve excuses.

[@DoffDoffinson]

You're clean with itt

[@RL-DarkSpark]

As someone who doesn't know how to play a piano, that sounds professional lol

[@ArtistUnknownOfficial]

@@RL-DarkSpark It's a simple pattern, one of those songs that sounds harder than it looks. You don't even need to shift hands. The pattern for the left hand goes "1-2-3-2-3-2" and the right hand, "1-2-3-4-3-2" and they always start at the same time. 3 keys for the left hand, 4 for the right. I might even make a youtube video on it just to show you don't have to be a pianist to learn this one.

[@ArtistUnknownOfficial]

@LL218-lh8q Exactly. I have been playing on and off for like 17 years, and this song is easier than Chopsticks. Golden Hour would actually be a good beginner song to learn for warm-up and scales.

[@briantim2313]

I agree that he could've learned the piano part if he wanted to, but for me, there's two points to consider here. One is he's a songwriter first, not a pianist. Considering he preferred to play in only C MAJ and relied on transposing keys, I'm betting he's not an accomplished pianist but can do enough to get by writing songs/producing, which is totally fine. A lot of successful writers/producers don't need to play instruments well (ex. Timbaland), let alone sing at the same time. Second, if you go viral and want to take advantage of it, you gotta act fast as hell. If I wrote a song that blew up this much, I too wouldn't prioritize practicing this piano part if you could get away with it. I'd be focusing on my marketing, booking upcoming performances, and whatever else that all comes with. That's a lot of pressure, and time is more important than focusing on perfection/playing the right key here. I'm sure the thought was that as long as it looks like he's playing it live, most people won't notice. I'm a pianist myself and didn't notice at first cause I was just listening hah. So with the lack of high proficiency in piano paired with the pressure of blowing up, I understand JVKE's choices here. Of course though, it would've been awesome to see him perform the song properly lol.

[@briantim2313]

As for the technology argument, I agree with JVKE too. It's just the name of the game now unfortunately. You either take advantage of tech to get a leg up or you stay a few steps behind. He's living proof that it's working. Don't even get me started on AI

[@Harpotos]

nice take

[@masterwolfff]

@@briantim2313 I mean yeah surely that is real technology is crazy for speeding up processes, also yeah he is not a pianist, but being the song it is, literaly his biggest hit at much 1 week practicing some hours a day to master it would damage anyone and would be more musicaly proffesional. Then the marketing isnt really completely done by him as i think, for something he has a contract probably with AWAL. And lastly yeah surely there is a lot of musicians especially popular ones that use technology to speed things, that doesnt means the quality is better, neither kinda stupid things that jvke said as when he that his song was impossible to play on piano cause it didnt belonged to the 12 tones, he simply just used slighty out of tune piano and mixing, but that doesnt makes it out of the 12 tones, and neither makes it into a song with a temperament non equal as the one used in most of occident, so pretty stupid claims on his part probably to marketing and surprise people with not much musical training, but to people with some musical training it just hilariously stupid.

[@briantim2313]

@@masterwolfff I agree it would've been ideal that he actually practiced haha. Honestly though I just don't think that he would've been able to get it done on time, given the circumstances. I don't think he's good enough (yet) to play that song and sing at the same time, especially live with massive crowds right off the bat. There's no room for error at that level. Your marketing point is fair, I'm sure it wasn't all him but I don't think it takes away from the pressure I'm sure he still felt And I never heard that 12 tone claim, that does sound just ridiculous hahah. The 'tech' I was referring to mostly was him using loop tracks/layering live or using the same audio on the teacher reaction vids. The marketing world can be a gimmicky place but he knows that; as long as it appeals to the masses it pretty much works. Then you have the few ppl like us in youtube comments hahah

[@SianaGearz]

Haha Timbaland. Stole Acidjazzed Evening, used it for Nelly Furtado's track Do It and a ringtone that he was selling. Acidjazzed Evening is an Amiga MOD by Tempest (Janne Sunni, Finland), of which a C64 cover by CRG (Glenn Rune Gallefoss, Norway), made its way into HVSC (High Voltage SID Collection). Looks like Timbalnad downloaded HVSC and put it in his SidStation and probably used more of it willy nilly, who knows. When confronted with an accusation, instead of inspecting whether he accidentally committed plagiarism or forgot to clear a sample, ranted incoherently. I don't know if he's a top notch example of creativity, he might just be big muscle and good at stealing or hiring ghostwriters. He got caught this time but how many other times he didn't?

[@luccaadamialbiani4183]

Dont forget that who wrote that was probably one of JVKE’s social media representatives, and that it is possible didnt even see the video.

[@werdemusiker]

Hahaaa… oh no 🙊 you could be right

[@biln2]

the response was written and edited by pr ppl and looked over by their legal department. it was full of partial admissions and spin. in any event, he tried to pass recorded performances off as live performances, which is milli vanilli vibes.

[@official_rown]

where's the proof other than his 79 social managers

[@PotatoWagon]

The fact that he had to lie that he had "no label" and then SUDDENLY being famous overnight, collaborating with big artists like Alicia Keys and Charlie Puth not even a month later really makes independent artists/musicians lose hope in gaining any kind of traction to their music. So much for "proving that you don't need a label backing you to make it big". Total disrespect in not only that, but also to his fans to not practice the song that got him famous literally overnight.

[@1travisvideo]

We don't know his terms with the label. There's so many different relationships artists have. Sometimes a label means that they are providing the capital (money) to fund the music and often it means they own any music created somehow. However another aspect of a label is the marketing piece which is more useful to independent artists as there's systems in place to get on the radio or perform at certain places. Get's even more complex when looking at differnet markets and countries. I wouldn't be surprised if he owns 100% of his music and isn't being funded, but using the Sony label more as a marketing/pr company which you almost have to do if you are trying to be global.

[@davevu4533]

I think we should remember that JVKE is an artist, there is nothing wrong with using transposing and looping. If he doesn't want to learn the proper technique to play it perfectly and wants to do other things then it's alright. We should not forget that it's not just playing piano what makes him famous. It's the production, planning, self promotion and finding new ways to attract new people to like your stuff and standing out. If the quality of music is just having perfect technique then classical pianists would be still on the charts now which they are not (sadly i love classical piano tho..) Then it's just not an instrumental but lyrics too and if he has more fun creating new ways to express himself than practicing the same stuff over and over again then its understandable that he uses technology which is available for everyone btw to create his art. When he says he doesn't have a label he means AWAL which is a label owned by sony but they still have full control and ownership they just help them with structuring their plans. Music is a business after all and its not just about the technique but also the way of standing out and showing others your work. And we shouldn't forget that we don't know the true persona of him, faking scenarios is one of the most common things on tiktok etc. It's just reality, or do you think that bands like BTS are 100% honest, it's a known fact that you can't just behave 100% authentic as a public face. So don't expect them to be so. How boring do you think would the world be without exaggerated clips and scripted scenes and movies. How many famous artists have sad backstories and try to sell it to you? Artists are not your friends, the music business is for entertainment and not for documentaries. Don't expect them to treat you so. They just want to make it and sell a persona, which is respectable. I'm sick of people hating on artists for being fake or using autotune, loops etc. Like the product/artist but don't expect the fairy tales and entertainment to be realistic and true. You will just waste your time and Energy while those people won't even see your complains probably and will never see who you are because your just one of the many nobodys/listeners/consumers/haters. Stop having such expectations. And it will just turn you into time wasting haters which you can use to work on yourself than trying to bring others down. (yeah looking at you Kpop fans especially and others who even brought some artists to commit suicide because of the toxicity) | Change my mind, i'd love to discuss |

[@ermeliindazuuaandree4423]

I agree with you

[@user-mh8yl4yg4t]

I agree too

[@OutbackBrady]

I literally just started watching your videos a couple hours ago 😅 but i tried to learn this song to play for my fiancé and studying it from those live performances left me frustrated and now i know why! ALSO, I'm pretty confident that (like you said, JVKE has a team) that this isn't jake responding to you, but probably a manager or a pr person.

[@ouwyukha]

he/she definitely will be fired lol

[@fpp]

JVKE hit rock bottom edit: i used loop track and layer to comment this video

[@jj-ug5ns]

i like how the loop track thing doesnt even explain the fact that in the part where the chords were going up in the live performance he stayed in the exact same position as you demonstrated in your video

[@nrv3907]

actually it kinda does. he also mentions he layers in the “official audio” which has the other sections of the song where they do go up

[@SianaGearz]

@@nrv3907 No. You'd hear both the playing that's happening on the keys and on the official audio together then, which might not sound that great. This is the piano equivalent of lipsyncing. Which, there's a case for lipsyncing perhaps and even for miming the instrument under various circumstances, but uhhh one could be honest about it and still have fun and deliver top notch entertainment right?

[@nrv3907]

@@SianaGearz true, i don’t mean to sound hella defensive but i also think its just because he’s only playing the middle section and lower, not as loud or complicated but at the very least on beat, so it kinda just gets buried in the live mix while he can deliver quality enough vocal performance at the same time. i do think he could put more effort into it, but at the same time he could at least play SOMETHING even if its in a different key while singing simultaneously

[@jj-ug5ns]

@@nrv3907 What truly bugs me about it is that he did it in a live performance, which is kinda scummy imo considering people go there to witness your SKILL and you just go around playing it in c major and using looptracks while making it look like you can play the piece you yourself wrote. And he doesnt even address the part of the live performance, he says the "original audio" has the layers and looptracks. So it just looks like he is blatantly trying to avoid it

[@nrv3907]

@@jj-ug5ns yea, but if you think about the majority of artists today, not a lot of the bigger artists even play their own instruments while singing anymore, and they lip sync over loud backing tracks anyways. doesn’t necessarily mean it’s okay, it’s just that it hardly isnt even the norm anymore to perform authentically unfortunately. i’m only saying that at least it’s SOMETHING, better than what we see today from most pop artists

[@Javid_74]

This should be the gold standard of professionalism in lifting truth away from muddy topics. I encourage you to keep going with this and write more videos! They don't all have to be like this in exposing someone, after all there is only so much to work with there. But your insight into the music industry in general is very enlightening. I would be interested to see more like this!

[@sonja_rademacher]

Thank you for pointing this out. I think it is a new marketing strategy. Random musicians coming out of nowhere, writing a hit and trying to convince everybody that they are just the nice guy from the neighborhood, who is writing songs on his own and going viral overnight by coincidence. As you discovered, they have a whole team standing behind them and doing professional marketing.

[@jessekirkwood5648]

AWAL is not a traditional record label. It literally stands for Artists Without A Label 😂. It’s primarily a distribution/publication company.

[@Mushiwushii]

i don't care if he uses loop tracks or sings along with playback, it's just disingenuous when his content implies that he CAN actually play the song when he simply can't. there's really no shame if you can't play ALL the instruments in your song, that's the beauty of DAWs, we can write pieces for instruments we've never even touched. but at least don't pretend like you can.

[@NotSoFreshSalad]

he can play but as shwon in many other videos made by other people too the way he does is just the easier way to play it

[@isaacvr]

Great analysis. There is another detail that maybe you've missed and it's that he said that he plays in C major (all white notes), but that's even worst since the first 4 notes that he plays are D-E-G-B, and correct me if I'm wrong but that corresponds to C7 with the 9th included (sorry for my notation, my mother tongue is Spanish), that for the movements he is doing across the song, points not to C major but for G major.

[@soiledmytrousers]

I don’t play piano but I am a musician. Guitar mostly. And I was able to see that something was very very strange about JVKE performances. Even if I just listened to these performances and didn’t watch them I would know something was wrong there. Either way, it is a great song.

[@ghostiewastaken]

I literally just watched your other videos like 30 minutes ago, lol this was perfect timing for more content.

[@christianconrad6058]

Same lol

[@arie9290]

dang same

[@ayseetv4875]

Same!

[@Wiewirsind]

Das wird immer besser. Beste Unterhaltung. Ich mag deine Haltung ihm gegenüber. Respektvoll mit einem leichten Unterton.

[@Falco_Boi_osu]

The guy also uses the same clips of him whenever he 'reacts' to other people playing his songs lol, he's trying to push a faux sense of integrity onto his fanbase. In my honest opinion he seems pretty deceptive in terms of how he presents himself.

[@Super-id7bq]

One of my best mates was on one of these "definitely an Indie and not a major" labels so I'm quite knowledgeable in how these things operate. They have been around for a few years now and they were set up because majors realised people were starting to support indie artists more. So they'd basically make these shell "indie" labels as a front so they could scam artists fans into thinking they weren't on a major. It's basically exactly how it looks. As for what he says about layering in other stems he is right there. I've toured with tons of big bands as a FOH engineer and most of them have a CDJ, Ableton or some other means to bring in stems from the recording. Muse do it, Friendly Fires do it, Pendulum do it, countless artists do, you just rarely notice it. This mostly happens when the writing happens in the studio rather than in the rehearsal space. In a studio writing session you have all kinds of great song writing tools at your finger tips but say you throw some strings in there, are you gonna pay for a string section to tour with you (which is massively expensive) or are you just gonna run the stems to a click. As someone who plays in a band that has 8 members, I can tell you that even as a headliner who gets paid quite well for shows, that money doesn't go far at all once you split it 8 ways then deduct crew, management, agents fee, taxes, bus hire, hotels, food etc.

[@rubyrock555]

just want to say I've never watched a single video from this channel nor have I heard that song he's talking about before (other than 3 secs snippets on tiktok etc) and it's clear as day that JVKE is an industry plant LOL

[@stan3449]

Yeah, It's never a good indicator of talent or music quality when someone explodes out of nowhere and becomes such a significant commercial success in a short amount of time.

[@quanghuynguyen3499]

Just because of your video, I tried this song on piano with the original key. It is not that hard, 2 days for me to actually play it. "100 hours" lol but the point here is he doesn't even play the piano during his performance 😂

[@SianaGearz]

"loop tracks or layer in the official audio [...] all artists do that" Mhm do they? It is a common performance strategy in pop music in particular to have a dedicated backing track or full playback, or even mime-playing and lipsyncing, but also... depends on the region and setting first and foremost. In Germany it's rarer and a full mime performance wouldn't fly at a festival or concert; UK, US and Korea say it's more common, but also not universally accepted. But also the more indie you lean, the less common it is in either of these countries, there are different subcultures that are more or less accepting of this.

[@robinraf]

JVKE is signed to AWAL distribution company. Sony Music Entertainment owns the British music distributor AWAL. There’s a big difference between being signed to a label, and having a distribution deal. The business offers deal structures to artists and independent labels without requiring them to give up ownership or control, serving as an alternative to the conventional music label arrangement.

[@Radi-Musique]

Yep!

[@_TheNoobPlayer]

Something that I've noticed you didn't talk about in the last 2 videos is that every video with a piano/high school teacher is fake because the woman in there is *HIS MOTHER*. In around 2020, they used to make FAKE TikTok videos with her 'listening to a song and then playing it by ear' (but she had actually already perfected before it). The song itself sounds amazing, but I'm disappointed with the means Jake has used, without coming out in honesty about it.

[@yenhuan7554]

I think practice and perform your pieces perfectly, it's a respect for your own creation.

[@z0h33y]

Not enough time, he has to write more hits, i mean, sure his only hit is Golden Hour, but practice gets in the way of him writing Golden Hour pt.2

[@yenhuan7554]

@@z0h33y I get what you said. But I still think it's not a good idea to keep trying to compose music that you can't perform.(if he wanna perform that piece by himself)

[@fedegwagwa]

​@@yenhuan7554Who told you its his own creation😂😂😂

[@dc37wwe2kmods]

Using technology to speed up the process isn't bad, in fact this is very good. But using technology to have this "fake" persona is borderline deceitful.

[@Astranoire]

A simple arpeggio: 🗿 Jvke: owwie, my ring and pinky finger hurte

[@PanPan-ml1ip]

Golden hour is a really good song. But the jvke himself is really milking it too much in tiktok. Good song but overused

[@jasonjansen9831]

4 days? For that song? Maybe 4 hours. It's not a 'complex' piano piece. Does JVKE think he composing Rachmaninoff style?

[@lionheart4424]

I fell in love with this song too, and as someone who love the music of Japanese composers I was blown away by the quality of the piece. If he is the actual composer of the melody and/or the arrangement, then he is a very talented musician. I don't want to hate on him, but as a singer myself I don't think any of his "live" videos are him actually singing, but I would gladly accept to be wrong with good evidence. It's hard to take him seriously with that kind of responses and his posture of "I have no record label therefore don't criticize me". I hope he can prove us all wrong and keeps developing as a great artist. Also, great job with the videos about this piece Klavier!

[@paralasalud]

his last part about spend 100 hours seems like it's supposed to be a rhetorical question and sounds like he means more songwriting is the obvious answer... but i think a lot of people might prefer the altruism of practicing to perform well

[@lh3544]

U really got to the recommended page of everyone and after a few hours here we are again. Tbh I was smelling something fishy from the beginning but I'm very glad u took the time to confirm it.

[@rithimstuff]

This man is burning the kid to the ground with still putting on the nicest personality ever. Props to you man for exposing him in such a nice fashion!

[@arenchannelz2666]

I think we still wants to see JVKE play the song in perfection, he's an artist now with a very famous songs. So, he should really train his piano skills, with less depending on technology..just show the hardwork man.

[@Nickdeaugustine]

Thank you for your vids! This feels like an incredibly kind way of exposing hypocrisy in the creative industry.

[@user-yw3re2xv9s]

what hypocrisy are you talking about??? are you okay in the head? The only thing the guy did was slander an independent artist just out of envy and the people who support his content are nothing more than envious failures, but Jake showed him that despite being young he is more mature than the forty-year-old by not demonetizing the channel whole because if he wanted he would

[@ratatatuff]

@@user-yw3re2xv9s He's not an independent artist, he's signed to Sony. He has a "Tiktok-Hit" while not being able to play his instrument. That leaves the question how he could write the song when he can't even play it. His fanbase seems to consist of kids and teenage crybabies who can't deal with the fact that their hero is a manufactured industry plant. But since he's neither a musician nor a songwriter he will disappear soon.

[@Nickdeaugustine]

​@@user-yw3re2xv9s Hypocrisy, as ratatatuff mentioned above, is saying you don't need a record label whilst being signed to a global record label owned by SONY. You realize if JVKE even tried to demonetize the video it would be against the fair use policy and would only serve to get the masses to dislike him even more, right? Funny how someone who seems to lack the ability to think critically has the audacity to ask someone else if they're right in the head.

[@user-yw3re2xv9s]

@@Nickdeaugustine Do you know how many artists don't have a record label and still work? What does it have to do with the fact that he has one, that gives me more reason to think that in the US they are sick in the head and complain about everything, and that he demonetized this guy is not going to make anyone hate him since this guy is a gift no one failed

[@user-yw3re2xv9s]

@@ratatatuff Now it turns out that to write a song you have to know how to play instruments? It shows that you are the child who complains about everything, bts do not play instruments and write songs, Camilo Sesto did not play instruments or know how to read musical notes and he was one of the greatest artists of the 60s, there are many artists who do not play a only instrument and they make good songs, but there are people like you and this idiot German who only criticize out of envy and because their lives are miserable and they are not mature, it is a reality

[@wehocommunitywatch]

Thank you for this! I noticed the same audio on one video with the "captivated piano instructor" over another video where he was playing it "live". Another thing, being that I have been a professional guitarist for close to 30 years, I have spent upwards of a month learning difficult, highly technical songs on guitar and especially for live performance I have spent thousands of hours learning and perfecting songs in order to perform live in front of thousands of people. If it takes 100 hours to perfect it, then it takes 100 hours to perfect it. There are no shortcuts. I hope he can change his negative attitude toward practicing, as that's what separates a musician from a DJ.

[@justyz3648]

So glad you made a video responding to the comment. Felt exactly the same way as you on all points. And I also LOVE the song. But I think given what a mega-hit it is, JVKE should spend the several hours necessary to really perfect his playing of this piece. I feel like it's worth it. 😅

[@LukeIcardMusic]

I feel like he wanted to speed up the process and wasnt ready for all the attention, thus using the transpose button instead of learning how to play the song correctly

[@romeocarter360]

Subscribed! You are on point. This is deeper than what people think. You are rocking the boat and people should put take notice. Thank you.

[@rhett786]

this man has mastered the act of politely attacking and hey thats good ngl its good to bring the ego down for these new artists

[@Tobias1985]

As I already said yesterday, AWAL are an Independent label. Also you yourself have to ask for them to sign you. The only thing the label does, is pushing you

[@Radi-Musique]

@robin Raf wrote this comment and I totally agree!!! : JVKE is signed to AWAL distribution company. Sony Music Entertainment owns the British music distributor AWAL. There’s a big difference between being signed to a label, and having a distribution deal. The business offers deal structures to artists and independent labels without requiring them to give up ownership or control, serving as an alternative to the conventional music label arrangement.

[@MelbourneChessCoach]

Good of him to reach out. But his inauthenticity and lying makes his career look a bit shady. But at the same time, people don't want to hear the truth, they want to be woo'd with technology. Most of the fans aren't musicians and don't really care for skill, or truth.

[@fortunetails3948]

dang dude, you really went off on him, was really funny to me lmao

[@iam607]

Not caping for JVKE but from a business standpoint: using the same audio on every video makes it easier to go viral and also get paid. Being 'trending audio' on a social media platform requires concentrated engagement of one song. Those views count as far as chart placement. But yeah saying there's no label is disingenuous. I remember Macklemore did a similar thing with Subpop

[@MotoGuzziV7]

LOL. This whole video series of yours has been so eye opening just how clueless the general public is to how the pop world works. If people only knew how much pre and post production went into some of their favorite performances, there would be no "real" pop artists left 🤣 Thats just the way it is now - and these cats will all see some of the craziest success far beyond anyone who could "play the part right". I'm not saying its not totally messed up - but its just the reality of the pop world. It's crazy to see how many people are shocked by this. I'd implore you to find a 100% authentic performance from any modern pop artist lol. And even those who are "playing it right" on tv - usually overdub afterwards haha. Or live, have it playing in the track and their piano/guitar muted.

[@Choonzord]

Choosing your specialty (singer or songwriter or pianist) is cool. Misleading your audience (even on TikTok) is not.

[@pccox1015]

I wrote on your last video on JVKE, that the beginning of his song is so very similar to FUJII KAZE's song Shinunoga E-WA (Japanese singer). LIsten to Fujii's live at Nippon Budokan (2020). Song was released in 2020.

[@mauriciorodrigues9050]

Hey! I like so much your videos and I am following that story. I have an asking to make. Is there some possibility of you to put subtitles on your videos? I'm brazilian and my listening in english is not so good. This way we foreigners could enjoy your videos. Thank you! 😃

[@MikeyNL1038]

I think JVKE should release the camera/room audio of his viral tiktok video so we can hear what the live performance sounded like. His teacher was obviously impressed by it so we should be able to hear it!

[@KisnouMusic]

For an artist who is truly independent (me), I was literally laughing when you exposed him on that. 79 People managing a page + Awal, how is that independent? I am managing all my pages, there's just me, and I am releasing my music through Distrokid. It seems kinda offensive to the truly independent artists like me out there!!

[@CosminZeed]

I love how you’re calling him out! Good job man, I don’t listen to JVKE, but he was everywhere on tik tok, milking his songs so much that I couldn’t resist thinking he’s for real.

[@billybobjoe4062]

They played Golden Hour at my best friend’s funeral before he could turn 16 💛🕊️ Gold is also the color of suicide prevention

[@EduardoRivera-cz4od]

I was looking up the awal thing because I was interested on what it exactly was... AWAL stands for "an initialism of Artists Without a Label." It seems like they focus on promoting artists and distribution (funding). But the artists owns all their music, the artist doesn't have other people producing their stuff, and they're more free on how they want to use their creativity and what type of music they wanna make. It's an untraditional record label that's for sure

[@kain2000]

His success will pass just as quickly as he "speeds process up". He made really good song, but it was not enough for him just to be a great songwriter. He wanted to be UNIQUE GENIUS SUPERMINDED NEVER SEEN BEFORE THE ARTIST. It's sad to me being a musician and hearing all the delusions he tells on interviews taking people for fools. It is Ben Lee The World's Fastest Violinist vibes. He was a good musician, but it was not enough, again. He decided to become The Fastest Violinist, but didn't want to practice and just lied, I mean "speeded process up". People believed at first, but where is he now?

[@aleksandry.7213]

As an amateur pianist I learned the opening of this song in maybe 5-10 minutes. The piano part at least really isn’t that hard

[@ndx612]

bro just turned Steinway & Sons Model D Concert Grand Piano into electric piano

[@StephenFasciani]

I'm so glad you called this out.

[@TSTBand]

JVKE should change his name to FVKE 😂 Now talking seriously, he is the envodiment of what on this days musicians looks like and the way they wrongly think about music (live performance music specially). There are some interesting points to remark: - Honestly his song is not so much difficult to learn and play live, i mean if i have to think in a difficult piece there are plenty more that comes to my mind, specially in the classical music world like Chopin, Rachmaninov and a lot more, i think that statement of him says only how limited skills he have when playing the piano for real. - In the response he did, at the very end he ask for the people if they prefer him to learn his ... own songs ... or if he should spend that time creating new ones, i mean, that's exactly the point that i wanted to talk about, a real musician first of all should not delegate that decision to the people, that's lame, you are the musician, it's your songs, just learn them properly no matter if that take you more or less time, i mean c'mon nobody is rushing you... besides the fact that no serious musician will think in i should do A or B because it will do both, specially between creating new music and learn to play them live properly. - Last but not least, i think this guy see the music like a business kind of deal, just looking at his videos faking playing them live, and making them "easy" to play with transport the notes in a pre recorded audio when the song is actually not difficult to play, live performances are really in danger each day that goes on. Great video by the way, it was about time that somebody have the courage to talk about these. Keep it up! you won a suscriber today!

[@Lilboiner911]

its incredible how humble this guy is, thanks for your time jake, incredible video klavier! 😄

[@rimarofficial]

For me as a singer too and sometimes also make songs, I can play piano but not proper, maybe jvke also like that but with better skill.. he has the idea of making song but can't play piano as good as professional pianist and its fine.. its hard also to play while singing and this golden hour piano section was more like classical piece which is more hard to play while singing.. there is also technology called looping, if you know kurt hugo (musician youtuber) mostly using it while making cover and its sound really good.. and if doing looping technology doesn't mean that he lipsyncing while perform, what he offer is his talent of making song and singing not his capabilities of play instruments.. I don't see any problem about it so kinda confused why take issue on this.. we never know how much effort he did for reaching this achievement..

[@highbellamy]

The fact that jvke said "all white keys" like he had to explain in greater detail what C is to a professional pianist with a literal keyboard on the bottom of his videos is so funny to me😭 I would genuinely like to question his respect for music overall tho, if a singer who very obviously used autotune, denies using it, and is called out only to respond with if his fans would rather see someone who did the work to sing it properly, or someone who used tech to make the difference??? That was wildly ignorant for such a talented artist, but kinda expected- If it took me 100+ hours to perfect a live performance of Golden Hour id be pretty airy myself💀

[@timrichmond5226]

Subscribed, watched your first analysis last night and this popped up in my recommended this morning. As a composer this kind of thing makes me so angry, so many talented people out there get overlooked because of this kind of marketing crap. It's however not surprising, I lost faith in the music industry a long long time ago and now write music only as a way to express myself. Keep up the good work! Super glad I found your channel. ❤

[@MateoTardio]

Some artists do use stems in live performances (example, Coldplay through AHFoD tour using Beyonce's vocal track for Hymn for the weekend). Nothing wrong on that tho! For Indie/small artists who cannot have a whole band in scenario with them, it's more than fair to use pre recorded stuff to complement what's being played live. About the tiktoks and reactions, well, yes. That's just to reach interactions and audience through social media on diffusion. Won't say it is wrong or right even if those are methods i don't like. I think genuineness is very important, more for public figures as artists. Now, for Mr JVKE: More songs is not equal to better songs, my friend. Maybe will be sound rough, but you should spend more time on the piano. Not for a specific performance for a song, but to improve your performance at piano as instrument. Experiencing with wider and more open chords will also open your mind for new songs and new ideas. It will lead you that way still. And consider it as a "Quality over Quantity" (i am not saying you do bad music. i love your work, keep it going that way).

[@lovealatte]

Interesting to see someone like him double down. I see plenty of producers that admit they can't play but can understand their DAW inside out, I think it is self defense in his part to protect his self-image rather than being genuine. A real shame.

[@renangelo419]

Tbh as much as I like JVKE's songs, I'm not fully sure he isn't just piecing together stuff that already exists and then singing over it. You can hear this especially in his song 'This is what heartbreak feels like' where the primary instrumental piece is a direct rip of Instupendo's song: 'Comfort Chain.' And I won't claim to say JVKE stole it, because it's possible he bought rights to use the sample or whatever, but it is pretty much exactly the same with vocals on top. And I know I've also seen/heard other songs he's done the same sampling technique with. As a vocalist I think he's great, but as a producer he's still got a long way to go and I think he's going to struggle a lot more with such an accelerated career that Golden Hour got him. I just hope he can have humility and learn from people and other musicians around him without thinking he's already on the top when he got there by luck (and I don't say that to be mean, but rather I hope he understands the position he's in right now if he's going to continue with music which I hope he does). He has some great stuff, but he still has a long way to go musically speaking. The attention and fame is there, but continuing with it as he gets older and out of the teen heart throb stage he's gonna have to put in some hours, no pun intended.

[@suevanillagaming]

This man is mad he can't play golden hour in piano but a 11 year old kid cover golden hour perfect

[@ir7755]

JVKE definitely misunderstood, nobody hates his music or that he doesn't play the piano correctly. We are just disappointed that you're LYING about your image as an artist that can sing beautifully while playing piano and promote yourself with that image by uploading those fake reaction videos on tiktok or youtube. I still love his song btw

[@discoball2982]

True

[@dumbguy8277]

he's damn right! you try transpose to 2 or to E major and play it on C major scale. It's really to play that way

[@AnonymousObserver]

I find it funny that this is also one of the songs he's milking the ever daylights out of which is absolutely understandable I'd do that too if I had a song that successful, but to not want to put effort into the music or practice it into perfection for the fanbase that brought you to this point does make me wonder if he has any real passion for it even when he's filling his shorts and tiktoks with so many people reacting to him and him reacting to others playing his song. The fact he wants to fake all those interaction makes me question what his priority really is, just clout or genuine passion. If it is passion why fake it, it's really off putting to see the lack of appreciation. A lot of artists seek perfection and ways to further progress their growth in their work while he's just basically saying that he doesn't care for the one in a life time hit track he's made. While I'm personally not too well informed about the behind the scene works of an successful artist in the music industry, I do know a bit about passion of art and the care and effort that's put to build it and also the relationship the artist maintains with their audience, I just don't exactly see it in his work. If you're not willing to do it for yourself then at least TRY to do it for the fans that have brought you to new heights. I'd much rather listen to artists that focus on self improvement for their passion and also appreciation for their creation and others that are enjoying it than someone that just mass produces it.

[@astro.gt20]

got this from the wiki because i couldnt explain it myself. Loops are short sections of tracks (probably between one and four bars in length), which you believe might work being repeated." A loop is not "any sample, but ... specifically a small section of sound that's repeated continuously." Contrast with a one-shot sample.

[@Nickdeaugustine]

Thing is, jvke isn't using a loop, or even layering in the audio... he's just straight using the official audio because he apparently can't play and perform the piece well.

[@SilverMusicAndGaming]

@@Nickdeaugustine no it really seems hes looping it, he hits the button to do so on the nord stage keyboard he used in the last vid, i own one of these keyboards, hes looping, as much as i hoped he was fully cheating, hes only transposing to make things easy

[@fedegwagwa]

​@@SilverMusicAndGamingThat's still cheating if you ask me

[@Sasha-Sabelnikov]

Hi, Thomas! You are wrong. It will not take JVKE just 4 days to perfect the performance of the "Golden Hour" because he cannot play this song acceptable even in the original key. In this case it would take him (as he had properly estimated, I guess) really a lot of time to reach this level of playing, then a lot of time to sing simultaneously ...and only after these 2 steps it will take him only 4 days to perfect the song in necessary keys. That's why he would rather spend time to make excuses then just sit and put the work into a song. Its like Charlie Puth's vocal - its just not "there" and going "there" would take 5-7 years so excuses like "do you want new songs or do you want me better" is all that these artists have. And its nothing wrong with using tools. Its wrong to make good musicians believe that they can go that far and that fast without tools\labels\help and than frustrate them to death by overwhelmingly winning and crashing them in the competition. Its just not fair to lie to win. Lets keep it fair!

[@sierrarose8727]

Well put

[@pox-eclipse]

There are two kinds of musicians: Those of us who take months and years to perfect our songs without the need for a team of handlers. And everybody else.

[@MeerQy_Music]

I actually don't think it will take that long, it will take a long time though but not that long. I think as an artist you should at least be able to perform it live properly. Most artist like Charlie puth and other can actually do a live acoustic version of their music. So I actually think he should put in the effort. Music and skill don't come easy, that's why there is few really talented. I also think he should stop lie and do fake tiktoks for views and fame. That's just embarrassing and taking the whole artist role away from him. Jacob collier, there you have someone talented who can perform live.

[@MaggaraMarine]

@@pox-eclipse There are instrumentalists and there are songwriters. JVKE's main instrument is his voice. And his specialty is songwriting. If he doesn't want to practice his piano playing like a concert pianist would, I think that's perfectly reasonable. Not everyone has the same goals as a pianist. It's kind of like asking Bob Dylan why he isn't practicing shred solos.

[@eliasnievespiano]

Many people uses layers and tracks with the oficial audio nowadays and that’s normal, maybe becoming the standard. I believe there is no wrong here. To put things into perspective, many times the musicians who perform in the recording are not the same in the videos or live performances and it is actually very common too. I do some recordings and there are pieces for one single instrument that become multiple tracks in the recording, but then the audience experience it as a single track, like an amazing performance. Most of the time those type of tracks are playing as a loop.

[@Zero-ov4tj]

He's just like Clairo, saying for the wind "I'm independent, look at me world", and behind, there's a LOT of money and a dad(producer) who's know people who's know people

[@ginovalentinofilippiblanco9634]

he Responding to the video, somehow it seems that he has some kind of insecurity, although it is too speculative and I don't know anything.

[@arnoudzoet8234]

I love this, I'm so sick of all the fake "artists" out there. I personally feel like you're being too kind ✌🏽

[@junxi5264]

Who tf would take 100hrs for such a simple piece. It's like grade2 or grade3 sth.

[@jefferyarnold5286]

bro has beef with JVKE for no reason. there was no reason to even make this video in the first place

[@Nickdeaugustine]

I just wish this guy would give credit to all the people he stitches to promote his music. I know it's people covering his song but he never gives links or even lists their names, he just uses them to further his popularity without giving back at all.

[@RonZSaavedra]

To answer his question - it depends. Back in the days, artists did not have the tech which resulted in them spending 100's of hours trying to perfect songs which is probably the reason why those songs have lasted throughout generations and multiple lifetimes (at the cost of 1000's of hours). The trend today is the usage of technology to produce multiple/more songs that are "catchy" enough to be played a couple of times over the radio and be in the top 10 for a moment. Music is music, I get it. And at the end of the day his music reaches millions of people and makes them feel good. But lets not say we wouldnt appreciate artists, who spend 100's of hours trying to find perfection on a single track, much less. In fact, art and music nowadays can be performed by OpenAI. Who needs to put in any hours anymore😂

[@cziffrathegreat666]

Absolutely, modern pop songs will be forgotten in no time! As the generation goes forward songs are become lesser and lesser memorable. They entertain for at max a year before they die out

[@tapeexperiments]

“Layering” is a gentle way of saying *playing with tracks* and it is true; many artists do this. (Particularly in pop) - I commented on another one of your videos.: I’m also a music teacher and I appreciate your respectful and kind way of trying to point out what is real and what is not. Respect. I also love the song!🙂 *Showbiz!*

[@toxikwastedump]

everyone should just start referring to him as FVKE

[@briantim2313]

I agree he could've played it properly, but don't overlook the fact that learning the piano part is much different than performing in front of massive crowds right off the bat and singing at the same time. He's also not a pianist but a songwriter. He just needed to capitalize on going viral and get those performances out of the way and fast before the hype died out

[@saxboss9738]

agreed, but then why lie about it and double down on the lie?

[@briantim2313]

@@saxboss9738 Which lie are you referring to?

[@saxboss9738]

@@briantim2313 "I don't have a label, it's just me and my brother" He's been spouting that nonsense everywhere. With a simple bit of research (like this guy showed in the video) you can plainly see that it's not true. Dude is a great singer and that song is epic, but don't lie, eventually you get caught, and that's what this video proves to be true.

[@saxboss9738]

@@briantim2313 Transposing or not, that doesn't matter to me. But he went out of his way to reply to that video and lied in the reply. It just bothers me.

[@ratatatuff]

He's not a songwriter. What songs has he written? And how could he write this one when he can't play it?

[@isaiahcollins1879]

And what’s even sadder, is that jvke doesn’t care about his fan base, all he cares about is making fake shirts that include his song recordings, and promoting them. Thanks for the vids man

[@jackhsumusic2586]

I think JVKE forgot about the facts that some people can actually play piano ... and understand how piano works

[@sheasolo8507]

Milli Vanilli and Jessica Simpson layer in the official audio too when they're playing live. That's 2 right there. Now loop tracks, they are used by tons of artists from cover bands to major artists. That's not unusual. But he is literally playing a Studio Track over his playing and his vocals. Doesn't sound live in any way shape or form. But to be fair he doesn't at the moment have a very large tour budget to pay for a band and everything else. He's a brand-new viral artist. He'll need an album release follow before he gets real budget money from the label. He also has very little live chops at the moment. And if you've been a live artist, you know that stage chops are different than wood shedding. He's new he's young and he blew up. His chops can catch up if he has what it takes.

[@maxrhm2715]

16 hours for the whole piano song???? sorry that we are not professional pianists

[@antareepgogoi6065]

He was not talking about you dude. He was talking about someone who has as much skill as jvke seems to have.