I fell in love with your back, 😂😂😂😂that sounds crazy in so many levels
@Nelly-446 ай бұрын
what!!! i guess you have not seen sky's /pete's back ... ..it's a thing
@marycox20406 ай бұрын
THE CHARACTER OF MING IF I CAN'T HAVE JOE NO ONE ELSE WILL. MING IS SCARY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@atwtfan16 ай бұрын
I watched this at work at 8 a.m. The smoke got me and when he confronted Ming, I started crying. Sol hitting Ming was so satisifying to me, he deserved it!! Althought I know they will put Joe and Ming together, I honestly don't want that. Ming has done too much and hasn't suffered enough. I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL TONG GETS WHAT''S COMING TO HIM!!!
@CMJoules6 ай бұрын
I agree with you. I don't want Ming and Joe together. Can't we have the version where Joe completely cuts Ming off? Let Ming suffer! Joe can move on to someone else that genuinely loves and cares about him. I'm pulling my hair. The two ML does not need to end up together.
@jazzykai1906 ай бұрын
You know? I had to look back at all the episodes and say to myself...who is really the innocent one in this whole situation? NO ONE! Not even Joe! Except for Wut, I like him. And maybe Sol. Ming deserved that punch he got from him, and he didn't hold back. The part where Ming cried for Joe at his funeral, I said, "WHAT YALL NOT GONNA DO IS MAKE ME FEEL BAD FOR THIS MAN, NOPE!" But anyway, with Ming, I don't like what he did to Joe, and i still don't approve of him being with Joe... but really Tong is the bigger problem.. .Let's just get rid of the wannabe actor who has too much greed....
@z_aelle-zr9cf6 ай бұрын
30:37. Ming knew Joe would not make a scene in front of the top boss of the agency, that's why he used him. But that CEO or whatever he is should be ashamed of himself: why are you pimping your talents? At least let someone else in the company do it if you must. That's so shameful. Ming is hopeless and went so low. This and then later on bringing up the stupid contract, which should have been voided. I don't remember Joe signing anything: just tell Ming the money and the house are for my dead body.
@naniaurora166 ай бұрын
I'm not gonna speak on the Ming and Joe situation cause I got too much to say yet I can't seem to put it in words. That being said, the person that seems to be annoying me a lot (other than Ming🙄) is Sol. I get he's a nice guy but he just seems desperate. Joe is a grown man and instead of just trusting him to make his own decisions and speak up for himself he's always trying to save him. It's almost like he's trying to make Joe love him by using his money, which makes him no different that Ming in a sense. The only difference between them is the fact that Ming is very possessive and toxic whereas he's just a man in love hoping to get his crush's love. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I hope I'm not the only one that sees it.
@mevans32916 ай бұрын
I love your reactions Shaqii and mom! I also teared up during the funeral so I relate to your mom here! Ming is making a comeback and Joe is still in love so we will see how the next 3 episodes go against the villain that continues to be Tong!
@BrooklynStitcher6 ай бұрын
Let me preface this by saying up front so it doesn't stick out behind, that I understand Ming loves Joe and feels guilty because of how he treated Joe in the past, Joe felt pushed into a corner and took a job he shouldn't have and it cost hi his life. I get Ming wants Joe back because he realizes (finally) he's loved Joe all along because he saw his back in the movies. And if I rolled my eyes any harder at that concept they'd fall out of my head. However, Ming loving Joe and Joe loving Ming, doesn't mean they should end up together. Just because Ming says sorry and is sorry and is ready to be forgiven, doesn't mean Joe is under any obligation to forgive him. He has a right to his hurt and anger. He has a right to say that after everything that happened between him and Ming, he's had enough and he's done. In a perfect BL world, Joe would end up with Sol. Someone (who by the way adore him and teats him according to how much he feels for Joe and not like a possession) Ming is Joe's kryptonite. He has a weakness for Ming. Pretty much in the same way that Ming used to have a weakness for Tong.
@Nelly-446 ай бұрын
I get ming's Back obsession ... i am as obsessed with Sky's/Pete's Back and other irl ones...might be weird but it's a thing Joe and Ming should be living on opposite sides of the Globe sorting themselves out individually I don't think Joe should end up with Sol. Ming's red flags are so RED that they make Sol's red, or potential red, flags almost invisible. When Sol pulled Joe on stage and declared him as his boyfriend, that was no fan service-he knew what he was doing. Joe was supposed to play a supporting role in Sol’s music video, and Sol changed the concept to make Joe the lead ( that was all for Sol's benefit ... he made it clear the first day back that he wanted Joe ). When they were on set and Ming called, Sol took the phone just to piss Ming off, with no concern for the possible ramifications Joe might face (he knows Ming is crazy). Sol has also been throwing money at Joe. The only difference is Ming is upfront about buying Joe’s attention and affection, while Sol disguises it as "help." Even a blind mystic could see that Joe is in no way, shape, or form ready to be in a relationship. Instead of being a good friend, Sol is trying to lock Joe down before Ming wins him over again. They all need to be alone. None of the three are ready for a relationship. There’s no need to choose the better of the two-it’s okay for Joe to be alone.
@BrooklynStitcher6 ай бұрын
@@Nelly-44 With regard to Sol. He made his feelings known to Joe before he "died" and was willing to take a step back once Joe told him he liked Ming. As for the video, that wasn't all for his own benefit in that at the time he didn't know who Joe really was. He made Joe the co-lead in the video after he learned that Joe's mother was sick and giving him a larger role in the video meant more money and exposure for Joe. And the new Joe's humility in not wanting to tell him about his mother being sick reminded Sol of old Joe. He also didn't want Joe to get involved with Ming because of what had happened to his friend. Let's not rewrite what actually happened on the show. Right now Sol is in protective mode when it comes to Joe because he can see that Joe still has a very soft spot for Ming. And because of that can easily be manipulated by Ming. And the last time he backed off because Joe loved Ming Joe ended up dying. As for saying that Joe was his boyfriend, while a bit surprised Joe didn't seem to mind being labeled as such. Let's not forget he first had feelings for Sol. And the only reason Sol rejected him is because he wasn't sure what Joe wanted from him because of things that have happened in the industry. It wasn't until he got to know Joe and had gotten distance from him by going to Korea that he realized Joe had been sincere. But by the time he figured it out it was too late and Ming was in the picture. Is Sol in love with Joe? Yes. But he's also trying to be a good friend to Joe. And other than rejecting him for the above stated reason he's done nothing to hurt Joe. Even in this episode when Joe wanted to break into his former apartment to get some of his memories he was there to help him. And when he saw Joe's resolve weakening with regard Ming he got Joe the hell out of there. Sol recognizes the danger Ming poses to Joe and he's trying to keep Joe from making the same mistake twice. It's a valiant effort on his part. However because this isn't a perfect BL world Joe most likely will end back up with Ming after Ming has been forced to choose between him and Tong and Ming finally and without hesitation picks Joe. At least that's my theory. Because I don't see any other way Joe will trust that Ming truly loves him. And of course it's okay for Joe to he alone. However this is a BL so he's not going to. So with that being the case I'd rather he end up with someone who doesn't view him as a possession something he owns and discard at will. Someone who has blatantly disregarded his feelings and hurt him over and over again. An honest asshole is still an asshole. And we can't really even say Ming is honest because we have absolutely no idea why he's so possessive of Joe. Especially when they first got together in the past. People have theories but the show so far hasn't given any definitive clues as to what motivates his level of obsession and possessiveness when it comes to Joe.
@azleenajaafar6 ай бұрын
Concept of loving someones’ back.. yeah i still cannot 😂
@puputseviria7656 ай бұрын
I love Ming so much....he always waiting Joe comeback for 3th year...he always believe that Joe not dead
@ecytb70426 ай бұрын
"why are you crying, now?" yes Joe blame him!!!!, make him feel guilty! let out all the frustrations and emotions you've been keeping it to yourself. I swear Ming is a different breed 🤦 Coz he did not just invite the director to give Joe a pep talk about benefits of being with him ... lmaooo i can't treat the people you love the way they deserve before it's too late.
@perdetalong39176 ай бұрын
Everyone talks about Ming falling in love with the back. Joe fell in love with Ming''s beautiful looks! The first time he saw him he thought he was the most beautiful boy who was only 20 years old at the time. He wanted to sleep with him and he did! And he also said he was shallow and that's why he let Ming get away with so much because beautiful people tend to get away with more than people who are not. Those were Joe's words! Joe is 30 years old at the beginning of this series i And 33 when he comes back. Let him make up his own mind! I think the real reason Joe took the other 6 months instead of letting Sol pay it off is because he did not want to leave Ming. He is still in love with ming!
@iviarriesgado74236 ай бұрын
when the traffic light turned THE GREENEST FOREST ❤❤❤ ming will definitely change for the good
@cnapoli51906 ай бұрын
The brother-in-law is behind all of this. He is determined to have Ming be under his control. He is after the family's money, which is why he married Ming's sister. Ming, on the other hand, is using his money and power to control Joe, who is in the new body. But, Ming is obsessed to the point that he has become vulnerable when it comes to losing Joe. Only Joe won't take revenge on Ming. So, Joe is the idiot here, because he is easily manipulated by Ming and allows the man who aided in his death to own him. It's sick. Joe has no self-worth. He is disrespected and treated like an object that can be bought and sold.
@sandyscheeks92106 ай бұрын
This ☝🏽
@ArualMe6 ай бұрын
About Sol and Joe- remember that the first wounds in love Joe had them with Sol, not with Ming. Joe had a huge crush on Sol, he wanted to be with him a lot, but Sol- even knowing Joes feelings choose the way of celebrety, leaving Joe desilusioned- Sol left without informing Joe! In novel is more detailed. During years Joe moved on with Ming- well, he loves him more than everything, despite all bad things happened cause of a huge misunderstanding for Ming and also a long time emotional manipulation from Tong. We see already how much Ming will redempt and show his love for Joe. Sol came after some years back to the one who was abandoned by him, cause he wants now a relation with him...? Remember that Ming felt imediatly the connection with Joes soul in elevetor- but Sol felt nothing with Joe. All the time, Ming had a strange feeling about the new Joe being the old Joe- but not Sol. For those willing to have a Sol-Joe, I would say- yes, Sol is maybe better than Ming, but in any other context he would not be a lucky choice at all. Like "I love you, I am telling you this, you know it so well, but you choose to perform for yourself and only after some years (years!) you come back to me, to tell me "I was thinking better, I want to be with you, now I have everything I wanted and the only thing I need is a relation with the one who loved me more than I did, I mean you..."? He is doing now everything to take Joe back. Just because everyone was impressed by Mings toxic behaviour, how can you not see that the first toxic behaviour belonged to Sol? Leaving me just like that- not even telling me that you are going on your way? Like I dont deserve at least a "goodbye, sorry, but I am more important for me now, than you"? No way! Sol isnt a green flag at all- think clear and cold- he was just better than Ming- but definitly not an option in real love issues.
@atwtfan16 ай бұрын
People seem to forget that Joe liked Sol first.
@naniaurora166 ай бұрын
@naniaurora16 0 seconds ago I'm not gonna speak on the Ming and Joe situation cause I got too much to say yet I can't seem to put it in words. That being said, the person that seems to be annoying me a lot (other than Ming) is Sol. I get he's a nice guy but he just seems desperate. Joe is a grown man and instead of just trusting him to make his own decisions and speak up for himself he's always trying to save him. It's almost like he's trying to make Joe love him by using his money, which makes him no different that Ming in a sense. The only difference between them is the fact that Ming is very possessive and toxic whereas he's just a man in love hoping to get his crush's love. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I hope I'm not the only one that sees it. This was my comment. I love your comment cause I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees that Sol ain't a saint. You put things in such a way that I wish I could. Sol's "love" might become just as toxic, if not more toxic in the remaining episodes because Joe, once again has chosen Ming over him. Sol is so desperate for Joe's love that it pisses me off more than Ming's toxic aSs.
@myothi20386 ай бұрын
I think you are misunderstanding. Joe had a little crush on Sol a long time ago, but he has never loved Sol. That’s why he has never been mad with Sol when Sol left and ignored Joe. Joe said it himself more than once time in the series.
@maradonaz6 ай бұрын
I love your viewpoint cause I was trying to find a way to word it and you summed it up. I re-watched the episodes up to this point and I think the show is influenced by the idea of fate/destiny/karma (good or bad)/redemption/rebirth. Joe mentions things like he is fated to be around the same people and similar life to old Joe and maybe he has unfinished business and can fix the things that made old Joe lose his life even if means seeing Ming through his redemption or downfall while also making Tong get his own karma. And yes Sol seems like a better choice than Ming but he has similar tendencies Joe made a deal with Ming whether you like it or not he didn't take your offer you need to trust him to do what he thinks is best for his situation. Even Joe talking to Ming at the bar he could have watched them and let Joe handle the situation but he does have some level of possessiveness much like Ming. Wut may not like Ming for inadvertently causing Joe's death but he still allows Joe to makes those decision but he will be there if Joe needs him. I am really loving the show so much and can't wait to ses the next episode
@BrooklynStitcher6 ай бұрын
Yes Joe liked Sol. However you seemed to have missed the part of their conversation when Sol tells Joe he rejected him because he wasn't sure what Joe wanted from him. And by that he means people had tried to use him to get ahead by pretending to be nice to him. So he was weary of Joe's intentions. It wasn't until he got distance from Joe that he realized Joe was sincere. And Joe has never held that against Sol. In fact he understood where Sol was coming from. Let's not shit on the relationship Sol has with Joe in some vain attempt to make Ming look better. Because....nope just a whole lotta nope. And even the rejection from Sol didn't hurt Joe enough to jade him. Which is why he didn't see the humongous red flag that is Ming. It's why he trusted Ming and opened his heart and home to him. And it was Ming who shit all over that. Using Joe (in his own words to Ming) like a sex doll.
@kib_h206 ай бұрын
The fact that Ming only remember the good things at Joe funeral and forgot about all the bad things and regret about what he did really says a lot
@AdebayoHameen6 ай бұрын
I think Sol needs to take a backseat,cus he's acting really over protective. I think he knows deep down that means actually loves Joe but doesn't want to believe it because of what Ming has done to Joe in the past,good reason but still dude you really need to take a chill pill😂😂
@lylelaney82706 ай бұрын
If IRL joe was my friend without any lingering romantic feeling towards, I would still do the same thing as Sol did and even more so. Also I do not know who wrote this script and I don't know the original material either but if the story want to paint you can fall in love with back shot then the writer is obviously can't tell the difference between love, lust and fetish. It's as ridiculous as saying you saw a butt cheeks shot or a headless torso and fall in love and when Ming explained about it to Joe his response was "it's too late!...?" A normal person would've said, "you're crazy, stay away from me forever." Though I must say, the Ming character is consistent from old joe time and new Joe time which is selfish, narcissistic entitled a-hole. Though back then they brushed it as selfish I'll intent to now a true love which again the writer obviously don't understand what live is if they somehow still end up "happily ever after" together. It would be a waste of a good premise as a toxic romanticization of selfishness, abuse and mistreatment.
@beatrizvitoria51716 ай бұрын
I WAS SCREAMING CRYING FREAKING OUT IN THIS EPISODE
@ScoundrelLB6 ай бұрын
Here, here, Shaq! You're absolutely right to getted worked up over how Ming treated/treats Joe, and how he would've treated him if he hadn't died, (like crap, for 3 years!). Hey, while Ming's turning a new leaf, maybe he could also treat other people he meets in life with a little respect and politeness, but that would probably be too much to ask of such a selfish little prick.
@corosol346 ай бұрын
Joe taking the mugs as his precious belongings is proof there is no hope for him!
@marycox20406 ай бұрын
MAMA LOVE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!
@The_Hangout1016 ай бұрын
if ming has no haters im dead.. i know they gon end up together but damn ming is just never going to be better in my eyes 😂😂
@MT-tb4uh6 ай бұрын
We will see Ming getting angry defending his Man at Tong in the next episode.. can’t wait!!!! Who is excited for that?????
@thaifanmeetusa6 ай бұрын
Glad I got caught up, so ready for a new episode let's go with mama Shaqii!
@tarakk25116 ай бұрын
Mama you are Mayo in your blood right now. Love Ming and love Up too. He is such a great actor.❤❤❤
@gracesiaba81936 ай бұрын
Please don't hate Ming in this episode he was also depressed 😢
@BrooklynStitcher6 ай бұрын
I undetstand that Ming wad going through it in this episode. But you reap what you sow. Karma is a bitch in stelleto heels.
@sandyscheeks92106 ай бұрын
Let him suffer!
@jeremyz6536 ай бұрын
You misunderstood. Joe's body was found in the wild and then brought to that place. It wasn't kept there by someone.
@kimpierce30716 ай бұрын
I love watching with you guys cause you yell at the scene just like me! Mom yells the truth just like I was …. Such a good show the funeral section go t me..the scenes for next week you see Ming is making love to Joe from the front? Wonder if what Joe said when tied up will Ming allow him to be the top….Tong didn’t like him and next week not going to like again
@DayBuz6 ай бұрын
I will give you a spoiler shaqii after they did the sneezing in the preview Joe actually shared some words to ming that will help clear up why he did it
@superrampp6d6976 ай бұрын
Wowwww fast upload❤❤ Aww Mommy so emotional🥺 Joe love Ming But I think Joe try to end of the relationship
@NB-666 ай бұрын
37:11 I think Joe have a contract with ming for six months.
@Nani-06136 ай бұрын
I honestly think that the main villains are Tong The shady directors Being a stand in , in general
@tand72556 ай бұрын
so Ming is controlling we know that. but in this episode Sol was beyond my tolerance like btfu he was being annoying and controlling dude you had your chance and chose something else and now wants to stir the situation towards himself instead of Ming but he still loves Ming and only see you as a little brother.
love you guys amazing to see u guys reacting to this thanks for giving us our wish amazing shows love by chance was my first Bl show which i have watched and introduced to BL industry and i must say it grows alot these times this year after The Sign the series this the second show i m hooked there are other shows but my list this is first tand the sign is second yeah its little irritating joe can make some changes to his life but sstill he is going same direction well i have read the noval so a lot of things clear and the kissing scene in the next itss different everytime ming do it behind this time it will be different
@Folak506 ай бұрын
Literally i agree with her , i didn't watch ep.9 but 😅 I'm still standing at the same opinion, i don't want joe to get back to him this easily 😢 but i know already even before ep.10 teaser that they'll end up together , this ming is so annoying he is sooooo possessive he will never let joe go😢❤ and that's annoying me sooo much 😢 i didn't want him to win him back easily at least let him suffer for 3 or 4 episodes 😂 till the last episode
@nattyyu6 ай бұрын
Mama please , don't give away our secrets 😂😂😂
@4randi6976 ай бұрын
I also want to know why Joe's body was only found now. Because in the novel, extreme weather occurred in the mountains where he filmed the documentary, and Joe went out to make a phone call at night, and was buried by a mudslide when he fell off a cliff. According to the novel's plot, there was an earthquake at the end of ep7, and it was this earthquake that caused Joe's body to reappear. Since there are no earthquakes or mudslides in Thailand...
@4randi6976 ай бұрын
I hate the TV adaptation of Joe's revealing his identity in the old house. In the novel, He came alone,and he went back to get his father's martial arts competition trophy. This is why Ming believes that the person in front of him is his Joe. Because no one would steal an old trophy that is worthless. Sol's participation made the plot worse. In the novel, Joe pointed out that Ming was wrong and ordered him to leave. When Ming rushed over to kiss him, Joe kicked him and ran away. Even if he would fall into it again in the future, he was sober at this moment. He didn't need Sol to lecture him, nor did he need Sol to teach Ming a lesson for him. It was obvious that Joe was really annoyed with Sol, and he just wanted Sol to stay away from his and Ming's emotional affairs.
@Jackyof_life6 ай бұрын
DO you remember in EP7,Tong want to persuade Ming to invest the RESERVED FOREST. That's the way they found Joe's body.
@4randi6976 ай бұрын
@@Jackyof_life 😱😱Do you mean that the foreign crew did not provide any rescue after the accident and just buried him somewhere randomly?
@4randi6976 ай бұрын
@@Jackyof_life I thought the conversation between Tong and Ming about the forest was actually a foreshadowing of Dong's economic crime later in the novel.
@Jackyof_life6 ай бұрын
@@4randi697 Maybe both of your guesses are correct. The drama has been adapted a lot, and the novel can't match it completely.
@mask89616 ай бұрын
Agree with you Shaqii!! Mom, you have me rolling with the debate/discussion with your son. 😂😂😂👏 Overall this was a phenomenal episode with A LOT of different emotions from amazing actors, creating many online responses. Bravo company!! 💜🎭🍷👍
@ahkgroup9996 ай бұрын
I just hate stuff like this. If Joe come back to ming than writer is going to make mess in this story. In almost all stories not bl series also other series they show that love is more important than self-respect. Men or women should love that person which loves you and care about you also gives respect to you.I don't know why they have to make those two people couple at the end which shows on cover unless one of them disrespect the other person love and emotions.
@perdetalong39176 ай бұрын
Thus is a story from a novel. All her books themed with younger Alpha, possessive and dominate males and softer older boyfriend. Ming is nice compared to Beloved Enemy young male lead.
@Nelly-446 ай бұрын
Ming... Ming ..MinG!!!! you took me on a RIDE!!!!!!! I cried with you and for you and THEN!!!!!!! The only reason i still have patience with you it was evident from the first episode that you lash out when you feel vulnerable or backed in a corner and we know you have sweetness in you as we saw glimpses of it ( though if yu blink yu miss it ) I still don't think you deserve Joe anytime soon .. that being said ... both of you need therapy because Joe's standard and requirements are very low they are on the ground .. spread out like a carpet or beach towel ... and you Mr. Ming need to sort out your obsessive behaviour and harshness Well, Ming will come in handy now because he is going to unleash his wrath on Tong. Ming warned him to leave Joe out of his mouth, and now this! Joe himself was not even allowed to talk badly about Joe, so Tong will see that Ming's obsession with Joe outweighs any consideration he has given him in the past due to being married to his sister. To top it off he is in trying to win Joe's love "mode" .. Mi sorry fi Tong !!! Why didn't Wut keep Joe's belongings? They are expensive. Joe was probably renting, and Ming has the money-he likely bought the building. If Joe owned the building, I'm sure his relatives were happy to sell it to Ming, who probably bought it way above market price. Joe has choices, but in his mind, he is working to earn good karma by getting his (or Joe 2's) mom the best treatment possible. As complicated as the situation is he is also grateful for having a body to house his soul .. and for having a family ( remember all he wanted was to be able to go home to a cooked meal and someone waiting for him ) he will do the best for this mom . Also, while he can work to build back his own savings, his mom can't wait she needs dialysis NOW . As rich as Sol is, he's only been an idol for 4-5 years He is not Ming rich and this not able to give the mom the BEST health care ( he can probably give Good but not the best + a full time nurse) , and unfortunately, he still has feelings for Ming, which does not help his decision-making.
@khairulanam77236 ай бұрын
I don't think you'll be fast shaqii,.. after reaction ep 8 are you keep arguing with mama ,. And than your reaction in ep 9 still arguing too.. hhhhhh
@jondperries70326 ай бұрын
this is the worst Thai drama .... ever .. very annoying ... it's obviously guilt as Sol said, and why is everywhere the person is greedy, including Wut .. making the first & second Joe really don't have a mind of their own... Ming can have his way around Joe & Sol can't aii ... nonsense ... yall must have read the story, but for the Joe character I'm seeing here, .. makes me hate Joe now .. this story was supposed to be a case of revenge and not falling in love again with the person who destroyed his life at first " pure nonsense"... But annoys me the most 🤨😒
@Shaqii6 ай бұрын
Oof not worst friend😂
@jondperries70326 ай бұрын
@@Shaqii 😅😅😅😤😤🤨 aswears
@LoNa505054 ай бұрын
Ôi.con khốn..bộ film hay nhất năm,gay cấn,hành động và nổ lực của các nhân vật chính đã đưa film ra thị trường quốc tế.mày lại cho là tệ nhất.