My thoughts on the Behringer Wave.

[@ingostromitzky497]

Bla bla blaaa bla bla and this is my favorite bla bla my my my bla bla

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

Welcome to the corner of youtube where we talk too much about synths 🤣

[@DankePlace]

what I got from your post was, your 2 favorite words are *BLAH* and *MY*

[@audioartisan]

If you clean your ears out, Miles sounds much clearer than that. Maybe turn on closed captions?

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@audioartisan. “Parasocials to the Comments section, please. All parasocials …”. “PROTECT THE QUEEN!!” 🐝

[@audiolego]

Hater. Mannnn

[@Synthnut]

Hermann Seib, one of the original co-inventors of the PPG Wave, was actively involved in the design of the Behringer WAVE and stated that it perfectly captures the iconic sound.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

That's super cool, that explains why it immediately jumped out to me as one of the best sounding Behringer synths

[@ingostromitzky497]

@@MilesAwayOfficial 😂😂😂typical influencer behaviour

[@Johnsormani]

Hermann Seib has never been involved with the ppg wave afaik. He worked with Wolfgang palm on his iOS software though and he made a software emulation of the wave quite a few years ago, so he knows the wave inside and out

[@BritoWorx]

Hey Man are you going to be reviewing the Hydrasynth? I think you’d really dig it, for the price it’s probably the best synth you can buy relatively speaking.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

Will for sure get around to it eventually! Thoroughly enjoyed it the one time I played it

[@fortheloveofnoise]

1:37 That sound just heals my soul...like warm tea with honey on a sore throat .

[@andreievkalupniek5717]

The Behringer has two oscillators per voice, 8 voices, 8 independent outs which seems to indicate it can be 8-part Multi-timbral - I looked at the Behringer manual and it has a lot of keyboard modes and it also goes beyond the original PPG with wave smoothing and anti-aliasing, user wave tables and transients but no samples - it seems a really good value for the money.. The 3rd wave is 3 oscillators per voice, 24 voices and 4-part multi-timbral which is a lot more.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

That's quite cool that it has 8 outs. I took a quick look in the manual as well and didn't see anything about a bitimbral mode, but that's nice that even if they don't have it (they might) you could do some really interesting panning with the different outs. Do any of their other synths have 8 outs?

[@DankePlace]

@@MilesAwayOfficial it does indeed have 8 outs, it doesn't mention if they're configurable, only that they're 6.35 mm TS unbalanced and yes it is multimbral, all 8 voices.

[@andreievkalupniek5717]

@@MilesAwayOfficial no, I think this is their first synth with 8 separate outs. Their manuals are always minimal so I wonder if there is some configurable options for the voices on the SynthTribe app - the midi implementation chart did not clarify anything. I saw on another video there is a computer app to transfer user waves and transients.

[@andreievkalupniek5717]

@@DankePlace yes, multitimbral usually means you can assign different midi channels to each voice - but I could not find that on the manual

[@abominablemusic]

thanks, didn't really know about the 3rd wave, sounds great. I'm inspired to fire-up my old Wavestation!

[@maxmeier532]

The Behringer is also blue so it must be just like the PPG and the 3rd Wave GS.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Great video. The decision is easy for me... the 3rd Wave costs more than I paid for my current car, so I will be getting the Behringer Wave instead. 😅

[@deantiquisetnovis]

Ordered a Behringer Wave. At this price it is a no brainer! And free tipp for you: If you don‘t own an instrument then don‘t make a video about it!

[@AndyFirebladeMuza]

I ordered one as well, really looking forward to it. I found the video strange, comparing a synth you have sat in front of you connected to all your studio kit, to a synth you only have a KZbin video of just isn't the way to do it. KZbins audio compression alone means you aren't hearing the true sound but, I suppose Miles was just trying to keep his finger on the pulse of a hot topic. Also a fairer comparison would be something in a similar price range.

[@DankePlace]

then same should apply to you about posting about an item you don't own right?

[@deantiquisetnovis]

@@DankePlace thanks for your valuable comment.

[@DankePlace]

@@deantiquisetnovis well just as valuable as yours right?

[@deantiquisetnovis]

@ so, how many synths do you own? And how many videos did you make about them? Please show us!

[@requiem.1894]

A lot of the B synths are superficially interesting to me.. they are clones of the past but very rarely shake things up with anything too new about it.. PPG style waves without reverb sounds like a tough thing, but I guess with all the savings you have little excuse for affording a decent reverb to fix it haha.

[@ktreier]

I’m tempted by the very low price of the Behringer Wave but I feel like my Iridium can likely create any digital sound I need.

[@DaGabbaGangsta]

I think having an Iridium brother, you're pretty much sorted there

[@LastHeroSynth]

Iridium Core Number 1

[@EnervatedSociety]

I had no intention of getting B's Wave. I've known about it for years. Recently I decided I needed to get a 3rd Wave, and soon after B drops the Wave, then I heard it of course, and now I'm rethinking everything. See, for my use case it's the limitations of the PPG 2.x I'm after, while getting as close as possible to those sounds from the 80s. So yeah, I was about to drop all that cash to ignore a good chunk of the the 3rd Wave's capabilities. (they just have no place in what I do) I gotta say, B's offering is really tempting for my use case, but I am concerned about quality, and I just have to hear more out of it, which is why I'm going to wait until I see some proper reviews before I decide. If it passes the test, a desktop version would be ideal. I know the keys are going to be meh, plus it would take up less space, I got enough keys. Now the wait. Edit: Just checked out tom noise's short vid on the Wave. Digging the "Original Firmware" sound. Aliases like crazy. Crunchy AF. I need more of that.

[@synthlab]

I can understand the stress of youtubers/influencers to come up with videos fast, frequently and on hot topics, but comparing a synth you already own and played and know well to one that has not been out in the market yet and you have never touched or listened through your own studio monitors is, well, let's just say it is stretching things too far ..... Get a Behringer Wave first, play it, listen to it and then make as many detailed discussions about it as you want ... i can wait.

[@_m0t3L_b3dbug5_]

I'll be getting a Behringer Wave FOR SURE, as I already have a few other analog- and FM-type synths (plus external FX) to fill in any gaps :) Of course the 3rd Wave is a great choice if you use it as the "centerpiece" of your setup where it dominates the mix, it's just that gritty morphing "PPG sound" is really the only thing making it sonically unique to my ears.

[@audiolego]

8:30 so cool. Go Miles. Will u be touring Los Angeles?

[@roszyknuke]

If money don't matter, go ahead and get the 3rd wave. I would too. But for those of us that need to stretch their synth dollar, I'm glad Behringer gives us some options. Yes, their are some other compelling synthsi n this range, like the Arturia Minifreak or the Hydrasynth Explorer. At 1/5th the price of the 3rd Wave the Behringer Wave is certainly worth a look ..

[@kierenmoore3236]

It’s more like 1/8th the price, in a lot of places … ! Not particularly interested in owning either, but will be interesting to see what the Behringer Wave is capable of. It’s already been understated/underestimated a lot, in this video/comments …

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

Totally agree, I made this video because of how impressive the Behringer Wave’s sound demo was. Seriously great that the PPG core sound is captured.

[@Jason_Drums_]

Awesome Demo 👌 If it sounds anything close to this for $600 that is Amazing 💯 it would be interesting to see for sure and yes when the Big Sky/Reverb is added it makes a massive difference to the sounds 🎧 👌 🤩 🙌

[@TJ-rf1xl]

Sadly just another unit we'll be waiting for for ages in Canada. We still aren't able to buy the MS-5 here. I could import it from the EU (Thomann) or US (Sweetwater) but then as I understand it would have no warranty, plus the shipping would be outrageous.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

yea they have really screwed over canadian customers! I can't believe they ditched Tom Lee and L&M

[@DankePlace]

Thomann gives you 3 years warranty as does SW right?

[@kierenmoore3236]

Not one of their better efforts, anyway - from what I hear directly with my own ears, and from several others … 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@boxodrive]

I buy from thomann, the price with shipping and customs is cheaper for Behringer than pretty much any dealer with tax in Canada or equal plus you don't wait. Non Behringer stuff is way cheaper.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

@@boxodrivegreat to know! I’ve bought from Thomson a few times, Behringer I used to get from Tom Lee.

[@johnbyrne1433]

Just got the 3rd wave turning up this week

[@DankePlace]

stick a Hapax with it and it will blow your mind, then add an MPE controller and it's man

[@kvmoore1]

I really like that "Death Factory" patch you made on the 3rd Wave. It just screams 70's Sci-fi computers!!! These are the type of sounds I want to learn how to create. It kinda sounds like you used some ring modulation or FM to create that patch. With all of that said, while the Behringer Wave sounds nice, it only makes me want a 3rd Wave more. I've played around with the 3rd Wave a few times, and it truly is a beast. The sky is the limit as far as what type of sounds you can create with it. I hope to own one someday soon. The 3rd Wave, OB-X8, and Minimoog are the top three ultimate synths I hope to own at some point in addition to what I already own. I'm going to be honest and say the 3rd Wave is the most versatile of the three, and if I could only afford one, I would definitely choose the 3rd Wave. That analog Prophet-style patch you played and that "Death Factory" patch is evidence enough to prove how versatile and flexible the 3rd Wave really is. I mean, WOW!!!! It can also sound so big and wide that it's unbelievable!! So yes, I clearly understand why the 3rd Wave is your favorite synth, eventhough you also own an Oberheim OB-X8. Speaking if which, I'm glad there is a desktop module version of the OB-X8. I think it's more practical to me than the keyboard version, considering the small amount of controls on the keyboard versus it's size, and also the fact the OB-X8 desktop module is much smaller and didn't compromise on the features or the interface. The 3rd Wave keyboard, on the other hand, has a much better interface than its desktop module counterpart.

[@Gerald_Daniel]

So far I'm pretty impressed by the crisp behringer wave sound when "Enhanced Mode" is off what makes the true original sound. That were also the main argument. A comparison by Starscy Carr with a 3rd wave desktop with an old wavev 2 (comma something) didn't show a 100% unity to my ears. The old wave sounded a little brighter. Since I already have a (still) highly sophisticated microwave XT with 30 voice expansion, that is sonically largely indistinguishable from the hybrid Waldorf M (again Starscy Carr's comparison), the behringer wave would definitely be an option for me. According to the specs, user wavetables are possible. I assume the behringer app would manage the conversion & I'd be happy if you make a comparison video. Maybe you'll like the sound that much to even keep it.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

Very interesting, that's super enticing that it can take user wavetables. I already was impressed for it being a $600 PPG emulator, but if it can work to do more modern stuff with the analog filters that's very exciting!

[@Synthnut]

I felt the same about the 3rd Wave. It didn’t sound exactly like the PPG and I don’t need 24 voices nor a 5k price point.

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@Synthnut. I guess it’s easy/tempting to shove 24x3 digital oscillators in there, then justify(?) the massive upcharge accordingly. Great, if you use them a lot.

[@ZozillaThaGreat]

Since you love those , you should def try the waldorf Iridiuml , i grabbed myself the core recently it was on sale and i'm impressed , alos can go "legacy " mod on wavetables and get that superb old school vibe , you do get the ppg filter modeled and a looooot more .... be ABSolUtly sur to try it once !! Great video and vibes as usual ;)

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

@@ZozillaThaGreat thanks!! honestly didn’t know that iridium had a ppg style legacy mode; that’s really neat, would love to try!

[@YukiTheSynthDragon]

You should do a summit vs 3rd wave video if you get the time !

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

@@YukiTheSynthDragon I wish I could! I had to sell the Summit to afford the 3W. You would probably love the Summit, it does everything so well, I just prefer the more versatile brighter core tone of the 3W over the warm, chilled Summit core tone. Had to EQ the Summit too much for my liking!

[@YukiTheSynthDragon]

@@MilesAwayOfficial makes sense too much overlap anyway

[@DankePlace]

I have the PEAK and the 3rd Wave desktop, the PEAK is a good companion to the 3W. Imo, they're simply in different leagues. It's what is behind the 3W with all the little surprises, and it sounds amazing, DC coupled which allows for that unfiltered bass to get through. Both are great synths, I just find the 3W so much more fun to use, very little menu diving and it has many tricks up its sleeves. I enjoy using both, I had the opportunity to buy a Summit but it was far too large for my workspace, the PEAK is still amazing, just sad it doesn't have MPE functionality as this is where the 3W really opens up.

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@YukiTheSynthDragon. I just suggested the same thing, above … Couldn’t be too difficult to borrow a Summit! I wouldn’t be surprised if the Summit’s filters and that amazing reverb, won out … Yeah, Summit is ‘Darker’/‘Warmer’ … 3rd Wave, like the UDOs, seems significantly ‘Brighter’/‘Colder’ …

[@neuronist]

It really depends what you want. Summit is still amazing 😊 but i get why you’d sell it for 3rd wave if you love the bright sound

[@rodnee2340]

He used the word! And the word is "warm" 😂

[@halcyo]

The 3rd Wave is amazing, but that price tag is crazy for most in this economy. I've been begging Groove Synthesis to do a scaled down model for years- do one that is only bi-timbral, 8-16 voices, which would require less analog filter chips, and do a more basic 49 key design.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

That would be really nice I agree!

[@monkeyrevolution1964]

I do not exchange for My MC 909 Roland no way 😅

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

🤣

[@monkeyrevolution1964]

@@MilesAwayOfficial Do you want to listen to the songs ? :)

[@kierenmoore3236]

The man likes his 909 … !! ☺️

[@monkeyrevolution1964]

@@kierenmoore3236 Yes Indeed I do Loe my 505 ,808 ,909 . 17 albuns released . What about you , any album ? any song ? ALSO I LIKE MY ACCESS VIRUS TI2 . kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXjdpKCsp9R2qaM

[@discombob93]

Love your channel Miles, but the defense hard sell on the 3rd wave to the people who can never afford it anyway seems....... just SO blatant?

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

Appreciate the comment; genuinely not my intention to shit on the Behringer or price gatekeep. I love cheap synths; some of my best videos are on the Nymphes, Prologue, Modal, etc. I made this as I think it’s super interesting seeing how much buzz the Wave is generating and I felt like giving my thoughts ✌️

[@dalelaushman8749]

After studying the Groove 3rd Wave over the last 2 years and hearing the Wave my take is that the 3rd Wave is waaay beyond the basic PPG sound.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

100% that's a great summary of what I was thinking. $600 for a great sounding but limited PPG clone is amazing, but the 3W can do so much more and has the 24 voices of bliss

[@entropybentwhistle]

When Wolfgang Palm built the original PPGs the resolution was greatly limited by availably technology. The 3rd Wave has 12x the resolution quality, 4 part multitimbrality, more modulation routings, multiple filters, etc. The difference between the two is essentially do you want your wavetable synth to be purely early ‘80s, or do you want the synth Wolfgang would build if he was in his creative prime in the 2020s.

[@kierenmoore3236]

# of Voices/Timbres, ‘VA’, Sample Playback, FX … What else?

[@JohnnyADi]

The only cool thing about the behringer ppg is it's cheaper and looks like a mini ppg. There's also the GS Bree6 for the 3rd wave filter sound, all 3 Synths are blue. The 3rd wave probably replicates the ppg better too though. The Behringers replica 2044 is better than the ssi2144 (UDO super gemini) for keeping the original sound like the ssi2140 does for the prophet 5/10, except just like the behringer ub-xa filters it lacks the high end frequencies like all vsts. I can list so many more advantages. Im really waiting till the GS flagship version of the e7, hopefully also comes in a desktop format although it probably will come with keys. I prefer my 3rd wave desktop over the big version and it's way cheaper, I can use my primary controller or osmose controller instead of the mediocre keybed, and it saves space.

[@kierenmoore3236]

If you correct your second paragraph typos, your meaning may be intelligible … 🙂

[@kierenmoore3236]

“The 3rd wave *probably* replicates the ppg better too though.” Probably? Why “probably”? According to hands-on reviews from Starsky Carr, and one of the original creators of the PPG, the opposite is true … 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JohnnyADi]

​​@@kierenmoore3236 Bob coover in detail went over vs the ppg in an exclusive interview on KZbin, they copied the details down to the micro dynamics. It's identical to the ppg but with a bunch of added features, I've watched every single 3rd wave video on KZbin. The dude was the dsp engineer for sequential, one of the biggest talents you could ask for that behringer doesn't have.

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@JohnnyADi. Sequential? He didn’t work on the original PPGs, then … ? Hermann Seib, who did, worked with Behringer on their Wave … I don’t even care, really - I’m not particularly interested in owning either of them … !! But facts are facts …

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@JohnnyADi. Why does your name come up with the katakana for Uòyo … ? 🙂

[@1st2mind]

We must remember, that the Behringer Wave is only 600,- dollars😅 It’s an “as close to the original with it’s limitations” as you can get, without spending 25.000,- $ for a used one😅 3rd Wave obviously adds many many other features to the table. Like you say; “workstationsynth”, and I totally understand why you love your 3rd Wave for that. But to those that already have analog synths or VA synths, and “just” want that PPG Wave sound, like you say, the Behringer Wave is an instant buy☺️ None of us have a Behringer Wave yet, but what we do know is, that they worked 4 years on this with multiple PPG Wave “experts”, and electronics are just electronics, and I don’t see any logical reason, why one of the biggest synth manufacturers in the modern world wpuldn’t be able to nail it in four years✌🏼☺️ Thanks for the video, always a joy☺️

[@DankePlace]

I like how people think they know what binaural is but miss the point altogether, hugging a Summit like it's an end game bit of kit. Binaural is an effect, when you apply effects in binaural mode, you destroy the aspect of having binaural. I'm not surprised given their inability to understand what binaural is.

[@cheminverssoi]

I've owned a PPG 2.2 for many years and this instrument remains unique, unrivalled and truly has a soul. I've never had any interest in the 3rd wave, which in my opinion is to clean and has no personality. What the Behringer wave offers is the real PPG 8 bits experience, which has nothing to do with the possibility of stacking 3 layers of 8 voices sounds on top of each other... For some people, more is not always more...

[@maxmeier532]

well, that is an opinion and we all have opinions.

[@TheSynthnut]

I think until you have used both the Behringer Wave and an original PPG 2.3, much of what you are talking about here is conjecture and so not really very helpful. The PPG and the Behringer both have the same "basis" control for the voices. In the stereo position, this simply sends alternate voices left and right, with progressively sweeping the control left you eventually get an equal level left and right. The synth is not binaural, or even stereo realty. Voices are available on individual outputs also. The Behringer Wave gives the option of the original stepped wavetable scanning, or an "enhanced" smoothed version too. The 3rd Wave sounds PPG-esque, but doesn't sound like an actual PPG. The originals are pretty quirky beasts and it does seem like Behringer have copied many of those withe theirs. It would be interesting to know if they have used the same transposition method in the wave scanning. If they had used modern DSPs, it would have been cheap to have increased the polyphony, heck, they even doubled the hardware voices in the UBXa. That they haven't in the Wave interests me. I'm hoping for a racked version ala EVU sometime. Maybe I will even replace my 2.3 and Waveterm B if it can load samples like the original...

[@Iofflight78]

I thought it sounded really good. But the 3rd wave has 24 voices and that makes it far more attractive regardless of the price.

[@DankePlace]

6 voice synths x 4 if you want, with their own parts and sequencers. You can effectively have 2 12 voice binaural synths if you want, which is makes it stellar to use.

[@DankePlace]

3rd Wave destroys the melted ice cream clone. I would never buy anything from B ever again, all based on, well there is just better alternatives that support companies that don't rely on knocking off other companies. Just an opinion from someone that has some pretty decent gear that doesn't cost much more than a B alternative. Thx for the upload as always.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

100%, its not even close. The 3W is the perfect balance between vintage sound and modern features. Also you get to support a great company instead of a big corp. But I did want to highlight that I thought for 600$, if all you want is that aliased wavetable into analog filters sound, the B sounds a lot better to me than any of their other clones recently. For anyone who can't afford a 3W, the Wave might be a good option!

[@DankePlace]

@@MilesAwayOfficial oh 100% it's an option, just that the 3rd Wave is one of the best VAs around too, which the clone cannot do. I get that it's an alternative, but I prefer buying from a company that I can get next day delivery with firmware patches custom for me, which has happened twice, this has never happened with any other company I have purchased from. The level of support is amazing, Bob, Andrew and the rest are simply the benchmark of customer service and knowledge. This is simply something money cannot buy, but in my case, it did lol.

[@AndyFirebladeMuza]

All companies make clones, be it food, clothing, electrical devices etc etc. Even car manufacturers clone others tech. The 3rd wave is a clone with a lot more added. For some reason though Behringer get called out for it all the time, while no one else does. If you are a professional musician then go for the premium devices. If you are just some person who works 9 till 5 and synthesis in your small bedroom studio is your way of relaxing then get whatever you can afford.

[@DankePlace]

@@AndyFirebladeMuza No what Behringer do is steal without any ethical repercussion, eg MO edition that was originally done by Robyn, B never cared abt their work or gave credit, then Peter Kirn fiasco of trade marking his name to bully him, apologizing then deleting said apology. Then lying abt Loopop then removing said post, which Loopop replied to. Then lying abt Tom Oberhiem's involvement with the UBXa, which Tom categorically denies. Then trying to sue GearSpace users over the Sequential dilemma. Should I continue?

[@AndyFirebladeMuza]

@@DankePlace If it makes you feel better, crack on.

[@Donetur]

I would get a Behringer Wave, but a desktop version.

[@zagorowsky]

'Let me know your thoughts in the comments' - sure, no problem! Behringer is 'shit' & 3rd Wave is 'the shit'

[@TheSynthnut]

...then I suggest you don't like the PPG Wave! The 3rd Wave sounds good, but not like a PPG.

[@wren23_bass-synths]

3rd Wave is on the top of my list of new syths to get next year. Just haven’t decided on how many of my synths I would have to sell to get one. The Behringer seems nice, but I know I would regret not getting the 3rd Wave. So for right now I’m still digging my Hydrasynth(my main poly synth besides my Matriarch).

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

Right on, I still need to review the Hydra. Tons of fun anytime I've used one at stores. Yea i think it comes down to how much you really want the premium experience, all the extra voices and bitimbrality. For me the 24 voices alone are just so nice and I have gotten too used to them. But the B has the sound it seems which is awesome for anyone who's on a budget and loves the PPG vibe.

[@DankePlace]

I have a HS and a 3W module, they are nothing alike, the 3W can be really timid, or it can bite your head off, the HS I find if you push too hard, it's garish, 3W has more control before it can get too wild. It's hard to explain, but when you get your hands on a 3W and use MPE, it becomes a whole new experience imo.

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@MilesAwayOfficial. Bitimbrality? Not 4-Part Multitimbrality? Or am I getting my terminology twisted?

[@wren23_bass-synths]

@@DankePlace Where did I ever say they were alike? I never said they’re alike. I simply stated that I’m keeping my Hydrasynth and selling some of my other synths. You totally missed the point of what I said.

[@DankePlace]

@@wren23_bass-synths I was actually replying to Miles, but yes the HS and 3rd Wave are nothing alike, glad you agree with me.

[@LuisTorres-qz5kr]

The B is certainly a great deal for what its featuring, yet, I will wait for the Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave along with the Osmose to take advantage of full MPE capabilities.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

Forgot to mention that! But the MPE implementation on the 3W is KILLER

[@LuisTorres-qz5kr]

@@MilesAwayOfficial Yep!

[@kierenmoore3236]

“Binaural” … … … 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@jarekkotek2719]

3rd wave za $600 sure

[@manuelgonzales6483]

🥇😀

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

🤘🏻

[@equanim]

Really nice video. I love hearing you play the 3rd wave and explain what it does. It sounds incredible. I got the quantum it seems very similar, would love to hear what you would make on one

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

Thanks!

[@deastman2]

I have a Quantum mkI and 3rd Wave sitting right next to each other. I’ve never heard the Quantum making anything even remotely close to the PPG sounds I get out of the 3rd Wave. They’re both fantastic synths and both have a lot of unique features and sonic traits. If I had to choose a favorite, I’d go with the 3rd Wave, but it really depends if you’re a fan of classic PPG sounds or if you just want a robust, premium synth.

[@SPL-6]

Breaking News: $5000 synth is better than the $600 synth.

[@user-cv8ud8qo9f]

The 3rd Wave sounds rich and lush ... The Behringer Wave sounds 2D and thin, like a cheap synth, which I suppose it is! ... so from the demos I was really disappointed, and I do have Behringer gear so I'm not grinding an axe here, it just doesn't do it for me. The 3rd Wave however, does.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

Fair! I actually think that this Behringer clone sounds significantly better than some of their other clones, at least from KZbin. Impressed for $600.

[@kierenmoore3236]

Lol, OK … I don’t have any Behringer gear, but I think their Mono/Poly sounds great … this Wave may be, too, from all accounts. Behringer has been very hit & miss, imho … but it seems they really nailed the OG PPG sound with this one … We shall see (hear) …

[@user-cv8ud8qo9f]

@@kierenmoore3236 Yeah I may feel differently hearing it in the flesh ... just felt like it lacked a depth of quality compared to the 3rd Wave to me.

[@user-cv8ud8qo9f]

@@MilesAwayOfficial I think where it notices for me is when you hear the 3rd Wave and then the Behringer. As for their other clones, I do have a PolyD and I'd thoroughily recommend those.

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@user-cv8ud8qo9f. Fair. I’m liking the character/grit of the Original Mode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h56xd5ueZciKrZosi=BKBfPFzOoZJFYgRs The more polished mode is boring to me. Wasn’t interested in either, but I do like this grit (which I’m sure the 3rd wave does a version of, too) … As for the ‘fit & finish’ quality, we’ll have to wait until more have been out in the wild for a spell. Cheers

[@kierenmoore3236]

I can’t believe the 3rd Wave is your ‘favourite’ synth (though, at the end you say, ‘one of’ your all-time favourites, lol 🤷🏻‍♂️). The PPG, the Behringer Wave, and even the 3rd Wave are all just Hybrids, right? The 3rd Wave has more ‘true-polyphonic’ voices; so more filter$ … and it can load/play samples. ‘VA’ etc is digital, so, blah, blah, blah … all but 1 or 2 of those 3rd Wave patches sounded pretty cold to me … And ALL synths (all musical sounds, pretty much) benefit greatly from reverb, obviously. Neither the PPG nor the 3rd Wave ever really piqued my interest - maybe because I’m not a huge wavetable user, for one thing - but I’m curious to hear a direct comparison of the 3rd Wave alongside the Summit now (just has fewer voices and no sample playback?!). Now THAT would be an interesting video … 3rd Wave Wavetables, Filters & Reverb … versus the Summit’s Wavetables, Filters & Reverb. The soon-to-be 3rd Wave and Behringer Wave sound comparisons are going to be very interesting, too. Not many people hate the blue with white, clacky buttons … ☺️ … “Human, all-too human …” 🤫

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

I have several videos on the Summit, I loved it and used it for 2 years. I sold it to fund the 3W which to me has a nicer more open/3D core tone. It’s personal preference based on the music I make. Also, I can sometimes be flippant with my words, so I’ll confirm that the 3rd Wave is my favourite do it all synth, the Ob-6 is my favourite inspiration/always faithful synth. I genuinely am stoked the Behringer Wave sounds like it can do this sound, cause PPG is such a great flavour

[@serhiymarchenko8361]

The 3rd Wave looks and sounds cool. But for me Microwave XT is good enough for this type of sounds. I know it's fully digital, but that is what I actually like - it is brutally digital :D .

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

I've heard great things! It's on my list to try if a good deal comes up locally some day.

[@TheCbone1979]

I will never part with my Waldorf XT. Classic, it has no shame digital-proud!

[@classgrooves617]

Excellent video! Very fair and informative. I’ll save up for the 3rd Wave (probably 4th Wave by then haha)

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

Love it!!

[@Johnsormani]

Summary: 3rd wave shill reviews Behringer wave.

[@DankePlace]

how can someone be a shill if they paid for their own gear?

[@synthpunkmusick]

Love your click bait thumbnail 😂😂😂😂😂you’re just an entitled Gen Z rich kid

[@DankePlace]

sounds like you're upset given you hate Behringer so much, that someone posts *their* opinion and somehow you think yours should matter?

[@strykermoonfall2220]

Clickbait , unsubbed

[@DankePlace]

click bait because he gave his thoughts on the Wave? wow ok, move on then, nothing to see here.

[@RayyMusik]

44k subscribers know that there is no clickbait on this channel, run by one of the best synth KZbinrs.

[@dodgingrain3695]

The behringer sounded a bit lifeless. The third wave has a lot of depth.

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

3W is the absolute top of the top. It's the only digital osc synth I've heard that sounds as 3D as a Prophet/OB.

[@DankePlace]

3W is unique, it has 4 pairs of stereo out making it a 4 x 6 voice synth with its own sequencers. Then add the amount of motion sequencing you can do, you can literally turn any knob and that's motion sequencing right there. I only post this as I have 1 and when I 1st got it, I never *got it* , took time to understand and that's when I got a *synthboner* lol I went from a Super 6 to the 3W and could not be happier.

[@AndyFirebladeMuza]

£4790 vs £569, I should hope the 3rd wave sounds better than the Behringer.

[@dodgingrain3695]

@@AndyFirebladeMuza Its also 3 times the poly, and 4 times the features.

[@DankePlace]

@@dodgingrain3695 the sequencer is far the best I have ever used on any synth so that is an added bonus, comes close to my Hapax, just doesn't record MPE atm. I have asked, waiting for a reply. It also has 1 sequencer per part, 4 parts = 4 sequencers and all the motion sequencing you could possibly imagine.