My Thoughts On The Jodie Whittaker Era

[@Frost-ob7ck]

The Doctor being the timeless child was so disheartening to me for exactly what you said; The Doctor was a nobody who made themself a somebody, someboday great and good who helps people because they're kind, and it was all their doing. I really looked up to that, but I guess now I'd have to born special to be like The Doctor. It felt like they killed every Doctor at once. I've gotten passed it some, but... I don't know, I just hope next series gives me The Doctor I've been looking up to.

[@tardistime6857]

To be honest I’m just happy we are moving on . In my honest opinion I think the chibnall era has failed I gave it too many chances and I personally was let down every time. I have been appalled by what the fandom has become a toxic hive mind where your not allowed a different opinion or to express it without being bullied harassed doxed Shamed sent inappropriate pictures or threats . This is a tv show at the end of the day and no one deserves to be treated so disgustingly. I pray When they are officially gone everyone takes a step back catches their breaths and chill so the healing can start . The Doctor wouldn’t be happy with how this fandom is right now .

[@octazooka3452]

I don’t think it was given many chances. I didn’t give it many chances sorry my fault. Anyone else dislike chibnall?

[@tardistime6857]

@@octazooka3452 dislike his work on Doctor who as for himself I don’t know I’ve never met the guy

[@octazooka3452]

@@tardistime6857 apparently he was who fan but I can’t see it in his writing 😢

[@MaccamatBux]

I find that it's the people who dislike the era that bully the ones who like it. Either way there is so much toxic hate going around. Feel like I'm not allowed to praise anything about the era.

[@Reptillian8071]

@@MaccamatBux genuinely not having a go, what is there to praise?

[@thewhoaddicts]

Well. Said. Wingy. 👏

[@William34456]

At the moment I am re-watchng David Tennants and Matt Smiths series and Oh my gosh compared to this era they feel like Heaven. I must admit the acting wasn't to terrible but what the actors had to work with to act as there characters gave them a hard job and the end only said the lines because it was what Chinball wrote for them to say. I am very excited for the next era. Hopefully some improvement.

[@God-xd1wr]

I really tried to treat Jodie’s Doctor as actually the Doctor but it just didn’t feel like Doctor Who

[@vorebiz]

I think that, unironically, the only really good thing about this era of the show is how well everyone seems to be getting along behind the scenes. Whatever may be said about Chibnall he has steered a happy ship and when it comes to cast and crew being looked after it's been impeccable, they all genuinely seem as tight-knit as the Unit Family in the 70s behind the lens and there's something in that. On-screen though, yeah... I'm just looking forward to see what can be done to sort things out and hopefully the show can get some relevancy again. Squid Game, Stranger things etc have been recently making the waves in Pop Culture that Doctor Who USED to be making only a few years ago, and it's going to be a huge mountain to climb back up, if it can even be done.

[@joeespin4377]

the only good thing about this era is that it is O V E R. it never should have existed.

[@BuddhaAtheist29]

Of course they get along they all think the same, it's kind of like being in a cult. If you do have any different opinions you better keep it to yourself or you lose your job. When you fill a room full of yes people of course they're going to get along.

[@purefoldnz3070]

the Tardis fam will always be the darkest timeline

[@CableFF7Forever]

The most ironic thing about this era if how Jodie is so focused on making it for a kids and setting a great example yet she is the poster child for how it turned a character that is exponentially a good force in the universe that could be anyone into a "Chosen One" archetype, pretty much saying to kids everywhere "U have to be special in order to do good" and yet she stands by what she has done. Bloody mind boggling

[@Futurebound_jpg]

Why do you say that like she’s the one who wrote the series?

[@lunaluckie6737]

As a girl i am embarrassed to have 13 as the first female doctor. She's genuinely stupid and tries so hard to be quirky but it always falls flat on its face. She's always scared or stressed, and doesn't know what to do. That's not very #girlboss of her. Don't even get me started on the "socially awkward" fiasco

[@f-zilla7347]

Chris Chibnall did the impossible and made Doctor Who not fun for me. Today is the last day of this 5 year torture, may that clown never, fucking ever, touch Doctor Who again.

[@AmbivalentMind]

13:04 the best example of this is in Flux where that one Dog alien was just casually told that his entire race has just been eliminated - off camera

[@gigglehertz]

I'd like if it were revealed that this entire line from the timeless child to Whittaker took place in e-space or alternate universe

[@Firellius]

I gave it a try, but outside of all the aforementioned issues, I just couldn't get past the utilitarian writing. You touched on it with the remark about how the viewer needs to be told outright that Yaz is an amazing person, but those kinds of scenes were just so jarring. It was very immersion-breaking to have such a clearly defined 'Character moment now' scene. It's said that good writing is like good puppeteering: You can't see the strings. I couldn't see the show for all the strings that were blatantly in my face.

[@joshuacurphey3242]

There was once a KZbinr called CentreLeft who did a video stating his opinions about the 13th Doctor's era where stated that he didn't want to watch the show anymore (which is how I feel) and that people who said they didn't like it would be accused of being sexist or racist when they're not. I also never watched The Chase before the 13th Doctor's time and only did because I had seen bits of a Celebrity episode (though you're right that it's kind of hard to separate Graham from Walsh).

[@dxctr_master]

I really recommend reading some of the Thirteenth Doctor era books if you ever have time, especially for Yaz, she has so much more to do and her being a police officer actually gets brought up and is relevant to her character, main recommendations are the books by David Solomons and also The Wonderful Doctor of Oz

[@MrPaulmorris7777]

They stopped after 3, then over 4 years brought out 2. Wasted opportunity.

[@dxctr_master]

@@MrPaulmorris7777 frrrr I really hope we get more in the future

[@MrPaulmorris7777]

@@dxctr_master You won't. She is gone!

[@dxctr_master]

@@MrPaulmorris7777 Books about a doctor aren’t usually limited to if they’re currently the main doctor I don’t believe, ik Tennant has books released when his time as The Doctor was done

[@MrPaulmorris7777]

@@dxctr_master They're not even writing 13th Doctor era books, now.

[@LexMarch1507]

To be honest I've really tried with this era and I've gotten very little out of it. There's so little going on here in terms of imagination or storytelling, despite the actors all trying their best and some really great production design and effects. It's just felt like Who on autopilot, giving us simply what we expect instead of daring to be creative or challenging which even the worst of Moffat's era managed to achieve (I'm looking at you Series 7 and 9)

[@jakeisthedoctor2308]

I swear I’ve seen that second paragraph before, like you copied it or something

[@JJfromPhilly67]

Talking about the lack of development of Ryan and how so much which could have been done with his character, it occurred to me that the companions in the "Sarah Jane Adventures" were far better developed than Yaz, Graham, or Ryan put together and multiplied by 10.

[@Problembeing]

"It's not going to be five hours long" - I loved that subtle little dig LOL

[@one_smol_duck]

I like the ideas Chibnal brought to Doctor Who tbh. People don't talk enough about how bad of a place Moffat left the show. He had tried to up the stakes and outdo himself every season, while jamming in so many old enemies and tired tropes that the show stagnated. I like a lot from Moffat's era (Capaldi is my favorite Doctor) but he didn't leave the show any room to grow. Chibnal saw that and tried to take the show in a distinctly different direction, which was the only way to keep it alive. Unfortunately he was just really bad at executing any of the ideas he had and we were left with a mess.

[@mayotango1317]

No really, the show feel more alive, fresh and new in Series 10 that the Jodie era.

[@anthonypride1946]

In regards to the storytelling, most of the writers in this era never work in a sci-fi/fantasy genre. And most of the writers were not fans or following Doctor Who. Some of the writer also wrote plays which is a different way to storytell a screenplay. It takes a special kind of imagination to tell a sci-fi story. It takes years of honing that craft to do it at a high level. I think it was unfair to ask these people to write on a show that they were not following in a medium that they weren't accustom and expect them to tell a good story on the international scene. It's particularly tragic for them when all eyes was tuning in to see the 1st female Doctor in franchise history. The writing need to be spot on and it failed. I get why they chose these people. But there should have been someone who was a fan of the show at the very least or Sci-fi.

[@SR-yl8hu]

God I wish you had a seat at the writers table. If not to write or propose new ideas, but to edit/veto the bad ones, and to point out why they're bad. Your comments re the Doctor being the 'timeless child'...could not agree more. As for regenerating Cybermen with Timelord collars...

[@christiangarza8122]

I maintain the Renegade Doctor should have been a villain, and her pre Hartnell ones as well. It would have created a new theme that played with how the Doctor is this monster with so many rules to keep it from destroying everything. It would have made the Master mind breaking her feel so much more powerful, with her seeing her atrocities she doesn’t remember, and then the ones she does. Replay the burning of Galifrey, the talk down from Good Man Goes to War, Timelord Victorious, torturing the Dalek, trying to kill the caveman as 1. Then the story becomes about becoming better, which btw was the first doctor’s story arc. It all culminates when during the finale, yeah she doesn’t find her arch till her regeneration story, she has to choose from stifling her guilt by finding out the why to what she did, or rushing to save the world. She chooses to save the world, and the chameleon arch is destroyed. We cut off her past, while still giving the screenwriters an out on how to give the doctor more regenerations.

[@kurathchibicrystalkitty5146]

"Not going to be five hours long--" Is that a reference to Jay Exci's five hour video on Jodi's era? 😄 Either way, a great discussion, and thank you for making this video.

[@kurathchibicrystalkitty5146]

As an aside, I struggled through series 11, and Kerblam was the moment when I almost stopped watching, to the point where I still consider it one of my least favourite episodes, joining the likes of The Idiot's Lantern, Kill The Moon, Fear Her, and Hell Bent, among others. I made it to the last episode, the Battle of...Random Astronomical Contrivances, or whatever it's called [it's one of my least favourite episodes now, too]. But what actually made me stop watching wasn't the sheer unbelievable narrative driven coincidence that Tim Shaw ended up on the one planet where he matches up perfectly with the whole godhood thing, it was the idea that leaving Tim Shaw in what is essentially a living hell, forever, is the 'moral' or 'right' or 'humane' thing to do, rather than killing him...that was it for me. I'm so glad that I didn't watch anymore; I'm worn out and frustrated by the Timeless Child debacle as it is, just from hearing people talk about it. I really don't know whether to be cautiously optimistic about series 14, honestly. I want to be. As someone who started watching way back in 2013, and poured so much time and energy and enjoyment into this series...I want to believe that the show can recover from this. But, I don't know. I guess I'll just wait and see. [Sorry for rambling so much. I haven't had much of a chance to really articulate how I feel about all of this until now. I do feel better for it.]

[@BuddhaAtheist29]

I agree with everything he said. I don't have a problem with a female Doctor, I have a problem with the motivation. The motivation was obvious in the writing. I also don't see a person that has regenerating for thousands of years into a male after male after male to all the sudden jump to a female, needs a good writer to make that make sense.

[@paulharries9558]

I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately made Doctor Who bland so they could claim the "You hate Doctor Who because they're a woman, ohmygogyoursexist!!!!", ala "Ghostbusters" 2016.

[@AiRsTrIkExXzZ]

I like how there are pretty much 20 different characters played by one actor just that the characters are in different episodes and have the same names

[@tylerherr4288]

previous doctors would of given graham something to ENSURE his cancer never came back matt certainly would of and Capaldi's doctor gave that kid a cybernetic leg for crying out loud

[@xelntchancechance2466]

I'm glad to see the end of the Chibnall era. I'm looking forward to the return of RTD, who is someone that loves and cares about the show and can write a good story.

[@okankyoto]

At least when RTD writes bad Doctor Who, it tends to be so campy its entertaining!

[@mayotango1317]

Ha ha ha ha

[@maureenc174]

I completely agree! After Jodie's first season, my family stopped watching and that is so sad. I was actually hoping DW would just get dropped and better writers would pick it up again in 10 or 20 years and make it all new again.

[@90sArchive]

The fandom is toxic from either side, it seems to be implied that you think it's mainly the people who are defensive about the show who are toxic but I might've just gotten the wrong end of the stick there. Also while I don't think people who dislike this era should automatically be called bigots, there are a lot of genuine bigots like Bowlestrek and Nerdrotic etc who taint the fandom with their gross views.

[@JanRademan]

To be fair, they tried the "The Doctor is much more that a Timelord" thing in Sylvester McCoy's run. It's probably for the best the cancellation happened before they could get that fully cooked.

[@davidagnew6191]

I agree with your criticisms, in particular the way that the Doctor is written to be the opposite of what the character should be. My pet hate is the bad science. This may seem odd because the central character has a machine that can go backwards in time and is larger on the inside. But Doctor Who used to pretend to be sci-fi. Now it doesn't bother, it is pure fantasy: the sonic screwdriver as magic wand is particularly irritating. The technobabble is gobbledygook, which doesn't advance the plot and the actor can't deliver convincingly. Why do the Sea Devils want to flip the magnetic poles? This happens naturally and has no effect. Why do they want to flood the planet? The Earth wasn't more watery in their age. How do they get the stars to move? Why doesn't the Doctor use Time Lord technology to cure Graham's cancer? The history is bad too. Why are early 19th century Chinese pirates wearing trainers? The writers of the awful scene where the Doctor changes the Master's colour seem to be unaware that the Third Reich had an Indian legion. Because Chibnall's Who is awful across the board, it is easier to pick out the bits that were good - the cinematography and some of the design (but not the Doctor's costume or the Tardis interior).

[@joshuacurphey3242]

"This is the era of Doctor Who where I switched off". Well said. I wish I did that, and didn't bother. I've also been bashed somewhat about my dislike of it, by both my mum and sister (who also has Dyspraxia, like Ryan). My dad also tried to get me to like the Timeless Child, seeing that it changes everything that we know about The Doctor, but I knew what it actually was. By the way, the episode you were thinking of was Can You Hear Me? and I agree that it was completely out of character for The Doctor to act that way in that episode and Arachnids in the UK. I also agree on what you said about Chibnall not bringing back any old enemies of The Doctor for Series 11 (Seasons 7, 13 and 16 A.K.A. the Key to Time season didn't do so and introduced some notable enemies), but it also didn't bring back any familiar faces to the show (not just enemies but former companions, old friends like Kate and Osgood or neutral races like the Ood) and we instead got a few meagre references. Also, we got the Skithra from Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror (which is an episode considered good by fans) but that's still a long way away from original antagonists as opposed to returning ones. We could also count Zellin, but there's most definitely a 100% chance he was an Eternal (the race The Fifth Doctor met in Enlightenment, so a possible old enemy but not confirmed). I also really hate the Timeless Child since it was The Doctor (maybe Rassilon was a more worthy candidate than that if a non-original character is going to be used). Also, that story you were thinking of was The Ribos Operation and what Romana said was that he scraped at 51% on his second try. That Time Lord messenger from Terror of the Autons also said about how much better The Master did than The Doctor in Cosmic Science, while The Doctor claimed he was a late developer.

[@MoonBoots1980AD]

Completely agree. After being a fan of the show my entire life, I switched off. Similarly I very rarely share my opinion publicly because of the labels that you get given - bigot etc (which isn’t the case). The lore changes are horrifying - someone really should’ve said “no” and stopped them at the ideas stage for me. I’ve been struggling to enjoy Who during this time, and my interest arguably rocketed during the wilderness years. My other social media Who page makes zero reference to the current era, but again keep opinions about it to myself - I don’t need that kind of cr*p tbh. Always great and balanced vid though Wingy! Always love your explanations, as you can back up with your reasons. Keep up the cracking work 🤩😎

[@fadikhoory5350]

Arachnids in the UK and I'm like 'where is Capaldi?' S12 had episodes 5-7 be co-written by Chris Chibnall. No, the stories would have been better if he didn't co-write those episodes. Sacha should have been the Doctor, end of. Chibs just made Doctor Who feel like a kid's show with the you-are-awesome-but-you-did-nothing, show don't tell, heavy dialogue, chosen people etc. It didn't feel like a family show.

[@Scrummy64]

IMO the main highs and lows of the era: *PROS* - It proved within minutes that the Doctor can be female; I had my doubts but they were quickly disspelled by Whittaker's talents - It brought back a level of accessibility that Moffat had somewhat hindered with his emphasis on heavy story arcs - Historical episodes were consistent highlights - It did try one or two interesting things that the rebooted show hadn't done before, e.g. a fully-serialised series (Flux) - It had fun with classic characters and monsters, and not just the big three villains; I loved how huge the Sontarans were in S13 and that someone finally did something with the goddamn Sea Devils *CONS* - I just don't feel like Chibnall is a good fit for sci-fi, at least not in such a big capacity; he either didn't have enough imagination, or when he did it just felt like he was tossing ideas at the wall without properly developing them - Pretty much none of the characters were particularly well-written, which I find weird because Chibnall's characters were always a strong point in his previous works (e.g. Broadchurch) - It didn't really respect anything the show had done since the reboot; destroying Gallifrey was such an anti-climactic idea considering the journey it took to bring it back to begin with - On a similar note, Thirteen herself felt shallow after Doctors Nine through Twelve were all so well-developed and went through so much growth (I actually think she would've fit in better during the classic series) - I was a little disappointed by Akinola's work on the score; aside from the Doctor's and Master's themes there were only one or two memorable pieces, and his variation on the main theme wasn't strong enough to warrant keeping it for the entire era

[@peterd788]

My abiding impression of this era is that the lead writer and the lead actress were never trying. It just came across as so passionless. There was no dotting of the "I"s and crossing of the "T"s. Stuff was put on screen and no one cared about any of it except the crew who mostly tried their best with shit material, shit performances and mostly shit directors.

[@seanm1955]

"Don't worry it's not gonna be 5 hours long" Yeah I like Jay Exci but that was overkill

[@not_enough_space]

The 'Who Cares?' podcast/youtube channel just did almost nine hours on Yaz alone. So, that maybe puts Jay's coverage of the era into a different perspective.

[@Problembeing]

I caught that too lol

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

For the most part I feel like this era is very much going through the motions, stuff that we'd typically see in the past few seasons though is done more out of obligation than creative intent, specifically Chibnall's scripts in s11/12. There aren't any stories I'd call bad, mostly just frustratingly mediocre, stories we've seen before without much new. It's a shame as the guest writers have otherwise given us some pretty good stories, especially the historicals. Also, while Flux was a bit of a mess, it does feel like Chibnall seems to be having more fun I'll take a fun mess over a decent but dull story like Arachnids in the UK.

[@MrPaulmorris7777]

I have no idea what that word salad meant.

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

This era is mostly average with occasional highlights. Lot of ideas already explored plenty of times over most seasons done out of tradition.

[@tomious4257]

One word to sum up the Whittaker era: Consistency It never got better than itself, but it could have gone in worse directions. It's enjoyably flawed

[@thatbloodypanda6989]

I've quite enjoyed it personally. I have, however, found myself revisiting Classic Who and the RTD Era more often, which is a good thing really. I've been able to find enjoyment in most of this era's stories but I am looking forward to hopefully some better storytelling in RTD's next era.

[@tardistime6857]

Fair enough

[@mayotango1317]

RTD now ruin the show.

[@nalaka3488]

Think about ho many times there was a timer, or a countdown. Chipnall loves timers, even before he became show runner

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

I have always said that Series 11 should have just been The Doctor and Yaz, and Ryan and Graham should have been like Jackie and Mickey in Series 1 and 2.

[@RipeWatermelon]

While I understand (and even agree) with a lot of your points, I can’t bring myself to dislike the era, I have enjoyed close to every episode (with 2 major exceptions being “Orphan 55” & “The Legend Of The Sea Devils”). My main gripe with the era (and, to an extent, fandom in general) is that it’s become popular to hate people for not liking something that you do. With Doctor Who, Thasmin was something created by the fandom with very little basis other than the fact that anyone can get two characters and say “The way they look at each other…” and believe that they’re in love. I somewhat believe that “The Legend Of The Sea Devils” would have been a more fleshed out story had Chris Chibnall ignored the fandom’s desperation for Thasmin.

[@iHuzza]

I doubt “Legend” would have been much better if they changed the thasmin stuff tbh. It was the first draft of the script, was written in only 3 days and had a pretty inexperienced director. There is no way that could not end badly 🤣🤣🤣

[@Mowingthefrontlawn]

The 4 episodes with original enemies after Series 11 are Orphan 55 Nikola Tesla’s Night of Terror Praxeus Can You Hear Me? (Finger Man)

[@CarlB_1962]

“Cesspit of sh*t…” Best description of Twitter I’ve ever heard.

[@poisonpotion5460]

Just one more thing. I love missy, she is a my favourite version of master, Michele Gomez did a astounding job. It really hurts how they just don’t even bother to explain this version. Is it pre-missy or post-missy? Both makes no sense. And it is sad to see canceling of huge character development to do “timeless child”…😢😢😢

[@floydian2007]

Yup. Well said. 100% right . I agree with everything you’ve said. 👏👏👏

[@410seven]

I did not nor will I watch a single episode. When a gender swap or race swap occurs in a show I refuse to watch, because it is always in the name of inclusion, that means that in the mind of the people making the swap it was not ment for anyone but the people who looked like the protagonist , so there for the changes are purposely made to exclude people. Because you can't swap for inclusion with out exclusion, only adding will ever truly represent inclusion.

[@armoghetto]

You made some good points with some great supporting details. I have enjoyed Jodi’s era, but some of the missteps have definitely plagued it. The scene were she blows off Graham’s cancer conversation is beyond jarring. Socially awkward does not mean rude and apathetic. Unfortunately, classic who left a lot on the table with companion development such as not really exploring Nyssa’s trauma over the Master wearing her dad’s body or mourning Adria, but it did touchnonnTefan’s trauma or after effects of being possessed& Ace was the first to really be developed (Leela grew some). I agree that the series could’ve benefited from an arc of searching for the Tardis which may have allowe for more character moments. I really wish themes such as the Time Lords are back & out there somewhere, the Fugitive Doctor, and the Timeless child we’re giving more gravity and not just picked back up randomly. If thenDoctor is the Timeless child or curious about what the Timeless Child is, this is a being who has the time and resources as well as networks with enough myriad beings to figure this out without waiting for the answers to simply find him/her.

[@okankyoto]

The biggest enemy of any Doctor is bad writing.

[@Tejiknasten]

I think this era has been a mixed bag. On the positive note: The Master, the historical episodes and making the Daleks scary again. On the negative note: Mixed messages in the writing, trying to do big story plots that doesn't hold together and finally, deliver so few episodes in such a long time.

[@joeespin4377]

in the case of the doctor not comforting graham when he needed it there was no time left in the episode to do it and plus there really are no words to properly allay his fears. it might have been better if they would have had the next episode be where graham learned that what he expected of the doctor is almost an impossible thing to do.

[@leoj2439]

the reception of jodies first season made me feel like chibnalls regeneration retcon was just pure spite lol

[@Ajmorrison2002]

I’m not too critical of this era, but mainly because I don’t think I’m a critical person. This era has been a vibe, but I completely understand where you’re coming from. It had a very promising start, but seemed to peter out after a few episodes in series 11. I turned off after that point. Chibnall improved with every series IMO, lore changes aside, which I think does deserve highlighting.

[@dnavanzat1]

I agree with you 100%

[@gajacome1]

You said what a lot of people are thinking. Thank you for this

[@NelsonStJames]

Writers use returning villains and nostalgia when the new stuff they're attempting isn't working, the reason it gets boring is because they generally don't write better stuff when they are using established characters than they do when they're trying to be original; a bad writer is a bad writer.

[@davidharding1299]

That scene between the Doctor and Graham bugs the heck out of me... even now. The Chibnall/Whittaker era changed "Companion" to "Fam"... which I have always assumed was short for "Family". But when Graham confesses to the Doctor that he's afraid his cancer might be coming back, she can't spare a comforting, reassuring or sympathetic word for him??? For a member of her "Fam"? Come on.

[@or8m8]

Spot on mate, think i might just pretend its some time in the 2010s and this all doesn’t exist

[@candoentertainment9118]

I did reviews on Jody's first season. By the end of it I just didn't care. It didn't feel like the same character or the same show to me so I stopped. But in the earlier video I made when the announcement came out of Jodi Whitaker taking over the role the very thing I said was as long as we get good stories I don't care. And I just kind of disagree on your idea that if Jodi had been given the same material that David Tennant had she would be just as popular because I don't think she has the charisma or the acting ability that David Tennant has.

[@ftumschk]

Excellent video, and I agree with much of what you say. The only thing I don't see is the old chestnut of Jodie basing her Doctor on Smith and Tennant, but for me she has none of Ten's confidence, nor the adolescent swagger of Eleven. I think the issue isn't so much in Jodie's interpretation, but in the fact that Thirteen being a hare-brained chatterbox is baked into her (often badly-written) dialogue. This Doctor is self-consciously written as "dippy", and there are only so many ways for an actor to play that, so I don't blame Jodie. What characterisation she _does_ manage to bring to the role strikes me as pure Jodie Whittaker, judging by her real-life persona in interviews and panels. Rather than copying anyone in particular, my take on it is that she's largely playing the role as herself, albeit within the severe constraints of Thirteen's character as written on the page.

[@Quantum1769]

Please review the 2022 Specials!

[@timleopardxolo]

Can't disagree with a word of that, mate.

[@Problembeing]

It's been five years of absolute Hell. Jodie stans wishing death on people, trolling, othering, calling anyone critical every name under the sun, it's been insufferable. Now they're going after Tennant and RTD. It's really tedious. I do not blame you at all for steering clear.

[@IsaacWhittakerDakin]

And now you're going after RTD for casting trans people and a drag queen and I'm sat here laughing that you thought RTD was gonna save Doctor Who from wokeness!

[@Coffeebibber]

My thoughts exactly. Jodie’s just been doing a poor imitation of Tennant and Smith, and the stories have been unforgivable. Honestly, I’m not real hopeful of the RTD2 era. Great video!

[@tardistime6857]

She brought nothing new the role

[@atomicaaron6720]

I rlly enjoyed this master tbh.

[@MSDOSProject]

The Graham scene where he confides in the doctor and then she just goes "ah I'm socially awkward" pissed me off so much. I can't think of a single previous doctor who wouldn't have say there and comforted their companion. I started to kinda like Graham and so this really made me mad.

[@niebo3179]

There are so many things I dislike of this era apart from the ones you mention: - There are two kind of resolutions for every threat or cliffhanger: A) Somebody else helps (the spaceship appears when they are stranded in space, Captain Jack rescued her for the spacd jail, the weeping angels decided to turn her back to herself, etc.) Or B) she points out her sonic screwdriver to a machine and that's it, she changes that weapon, or return the enemy to its spaceship, etc. There is no clever solution like Eleven using the moon landing video to defeat the Silence. Not even remotely closed. - All the companions not only lack personality, they all agree with The Doctor. Except that time Graham wanted to kill the Teeth alien for killing his wife, 99% of the dialogue is basicaly the companions pointing out something weird, The Doctor explaining it and all of them trying to solve it. Interesting and complex relationships like Rose and Nine, The Ponds and Eleven, Ten and Donna, Twelve and Clara? Nothing like that at all. - The TARDIS is not longer a magical and mysterious place where good drama happens. It's just al elevator for this Doctor that uses to go from one place to the next one. - Chibnall was more focused in delivering the social message that he hired writers that were activists in that matter. He didn't give a fuck about hiring great scifi writers. He was more interested in giving us stories so superfitial about racism, mental health, homophobia, capitalism... than a good fun and creative scifi adventure.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

The Tardis is shafted almost as much as it was in the McCoy Era when it barely appears!

[@DoctorVision]

Yeah some of the cringy dialogue has tarnished many episodes for me. My personal highlight was Resolution which despite being a reasonably good episode, was ruined for me by 13's pathetic attempts at threatening the Dalek in a "doctor-y" manner: "This planet is protected by me and my mates" - I found so cringeworthy I would have commended the Dalek if he had shot them all dead there and then. With Chibnall finally gone, I am looking forward to some properly written, heartfelt dialogue again.

[@thomaslucock8066]

For me, it was an era of ups and downs, like all of the others for me. Every showrunner and producer/script editor combo has had these in all of their eras. But it was more pronounced here. I think the main issue with this one was the writing. It was horrendously uneven. For me, there was utter crap like Arachnids, Tsuranga Conundrum, Battle of whats-it-called (can't remember it, can't be arsed to look at it, it was shit), Orphan 55, Praxeus, Timeless Children (NOT for the canon changes, I personally didn't mind the ideas, but because it was effectively a powerpoint presentation showing how big Chibnall's brain is, and yes, I stole that from Stubagful), Vanquishers and Legend of the Sea Devils. But it also had Rosa, Demons of the Punjab, It Takes You Away, Resolution, Spyfall (dodgy bit with the Master aside), Fugitive of the Judoon, Haunting of Villa Diodati, War of the Sontarans, Village of the Angels and The Power of the Doctor (story was shit, but as a celebration of the show as a whole, it was a masterpiece). Demons, Haunting and Village have very quickly been cemented as top 30 stories for me For *that* scene in Can You Hear Me?... I can see what they were trying to do... my friend was scared because he had cancer, I just didn't have the words to say, because I was scared as well, I've been in that situation. How I would have done that scene differently? Have the Doctor at least hug Graham and say something like "always here for you, you'll get through this, with me next to you". Why? That what I did (or words to that effect). Show, don't tell. That's been the biggest issue with this era for me. I'm ok with some of it (we do NOT need to see the lynching of Emmett Till in Rosa, no I'm not going to point out why that should be bloody obvious), but it was a massive issue here. We should have at least seen other Lupari other than Karvanista being massacred by the Sontarans (or at least their ships being raided). I liked Jodie, she bought some warmth and child-like excitement to the role, and enjoyed quite a lot of her performances. The companions, yeah they weren't the best. Mandip Gill, Bradley Walsh and John Bishop were highly likeable as Yas, Graham and Dan, but I think Tosin Cole really struggled with what he was given. But they were all given traits, not characters. Overall, I don't think I'm gonna miss this era that much. I'm oddly gonna miss all the secrecy (you have no idea how pissed I was when the Mondasian Cybermen and John Simm's Master got leaked/revealed for World Enough and Time months ahead of the airdate), not really gonna miss Chibbers being in charge, but I'm gonna miss Jodie.

[@MidnightChimey]

Twitter will always be a cesspool of shit regardless, but yeah Doctor Who fandom toxicity has really peaked in this era. There are people who are just hating on the show because they are bigoted and hate women and so on, they absolutely do exist, but that doesn't mean the show is exempt from criticism

[@animalian01]

I have watched Dr Who since John Pertwee, I loved the reboot Dr Who but when it got to 13 I just couldn't do it, and not because they changed the sex, it was just because it was not done for the story, it was done for political correctness and feminism, It went exactly where I thought it would, a feminist lecture man hater every week

[@Thomas-hz8jn]

It was the worst era in Who history. It was badly scripted poorly acted boring tedious , incoherent in storytelling contradictory within its own plot lines. Not entertaining or exciting. The production values were low. Direction bad camera work bad. It wasn't Dr Who it was a woke soap opera with a sci fi background. Whittaker couldn't act and seemed to have no interest in the show or love of the character she was playing, she was politically motivated and disliked the history of the show and came across as despising a large group of the traditional fan's. Chibnail was worse if such a thing is possible he appeared to deliberately employ people with no talent to write the stories and he confused the traditional idea of Dr who which is good Vs evil with politics left Vs right and caused immense damage to the series. He lost the traditional fan base and pandered to minority tastes at the expense of the majority. He confused entertainment with lecturing endlessly without any subtlety . Apart from provoking the audience in a bad way he lacked creativity and imagination. I don't know if Dr who can recover from the vandalism he and whitticker have collectively achieved on an iconic franchise probably not in my opinion. Dr who didn't die a natural death it was murdered by indifference and apathy driven by the personal obsession's of those involved and on the altar of their own vanity. I doubt it can regenerate this time. RIP Dr who 1963-2022AD. T

[@robertbooth9633]

I'm in my 60s and followed the series from day one. I had a bit of a downer in the classic series when Sylvester came on board. Having said that in comparison the last 3 classic series were Shakesperean by comparison. No character development, exposition around a cafe table made me feel I was watching East Enders. No plot, no ideas and very preachy. Say that on line and you will be told that it's always been full of current affairs. But it's been more subtle (yes even including giant maggots) and not beaten over the head with misandrist comments and white characters being bad. I was looking forward to a female Doctor too ! The problem was that the writers had no idea about Sci-Fi and tried to cram Coronation Street scripts into a fantasy show.

[@timereaper7877]

I really appreciate your channel. While I’m a fan of the Chibnall era myself, I understand that you’re not, and instead of you going on and on about how much you hate it and just fuelling the negativity of the fandom, you instead talk about the parts of the show that you do like. I’ve just started the video so I’m sure it might be more negative than usual, but I think that at least one video with your thoughts on this era are deserved, and I’d certainly be interested into seeing what parts I enjoyed that you didn’t, and maybe vice versa.

[@zoebarcott9493]

I feel like jo Martin was a prime example on why Jodie didn’t work.. Jo was in 3 episode and felt more like the doctor and clicked, like yeah that’s the doctor and I never felt like that with Jodie.

[@TheMastermind729]

Like no, the doctor isn’t a woman.

[@1rtricky]

I remember being so excited about a female doctor. The intro of Jodi in the woods gave me chills. Now self disclaimer I tend to love the current doctor and I do start to warm up to the new one gradually. The first episode came and the villain I felt was transparent and not a villain at all. To not show the new Tardis in the first episode gave me a glimpse of what’s to come. I was so angered. How can you make us wait like that? Then a few episodes down the line I was so displeased. Making her own sonic was hard to digest but ok go with the flow. Then came the frog and I was done. Jodi I feel like you could had been (in my opinion) the best doctor out there and was handed bad stories. Now the new era. I love David Tennant and I am glad he’s back however am I the only one who feels a little awkward? This is Ncuti’s era and I feel like that in away is now taken from him. I know we at this time don’t know what direction this is taking but I feel like it would’ve been better if we had Ncuti first.

[@kamakazeyt]

See this is the thing, many concerned fans said them making a female Doctor was just to fulfill a PC agenda and feed the fanbase with lessons on morality. They could've proved everyone wrong, they could've made the people worried about the show's future happy and excited to see the series continue. Unfortunately instead they proved the worried fans right, and then ruined the expectations of those excited for a female Doctor. Instead of just simply writing good stories, with good villains, good character growth and good lore they shoved a PC agenda down everyone's throats. If anyone complains about this? They just throw in the age old excuse of "you're a bigot." Thing is though, if everyone complaining was such a bigot, why was Missy received so fucking well? Why was Missy many people's favorite incarnation of The Master? It's just a bullshit excuse, throwing sexism as an excuse for their lazy writing, which is honestly more offensive considering there are people across the world who actually experience sexism day in, day out. Lying about sexist fans because your show got a bad rating is disgusting.

[@rosswilson4906]

Yeah I wished Tennant returned as the 10th doctor and not become the 14th doctor (which should have been Ncuti). To me, it feels like Tennant has stolen Ncuti's moment (I hated how Ncuti's first appearance in the show was in a bloody trailer) and it's painfully obvious that RTD brought Tennant back to try to save the show.

[@cianhudder7499]

@@rosswilson4906I’ve heard theories that the specials could be a multi-doctor story with both Ncuti kind of like day of the doctor. If RTD does do this and also does a good job with it, I think it could be an amazing intro to the new doctor as well as a cool story showing the doctor interacting with himself. If he does it poorly though it’ll appear super desperate and could really affect how Ncuti is perceived (kinda like how capaldi was hated because of his first episode). All we can do is wait and hope.

[@rosswilson4906]

@@cianhudder7499 That would be cool but I'm worried that Ncuti would get overshadowed by Tennant and the other doctors if any returned

[@cianhudder7499]

@@rosswilson4906 yeah maybe (probably). The best thing we can hope for imo is a good transition from Tennant to Ncuti and a good first series for him. I wouldn’t mind if we saw him taking a more supportive role in helping his former self accept regeneration and easing the pain/regret/nerves of 14 if he then then comes back in his own series as the focus. If he comes back in time as a fully formed incarnation we could still have the episode of regeneration sickness and have all the character development leading up to the specials, it could be really neat and an interesting way of showcasing what we have to look forward to in Ncuti’s era. It all really just depends on how it plays out. Just my opinion though, here’s hoping for a good set of specials and a good new series!

[@jacobgaunt2438]

Personally feel there were positives and negatives in this era too. Some storylines had me intrigued but some left me feel so bored that I just switched off. Don’t hate Jodie either, I just feel that it is just wasted potential. I hope she gets a chance to explore big finish and really show her character but again it’s too little too late.

[@cyberemperor1435]

I hated the Graham/ doctor cancer scene, no other doctor would act like that, the doctor is called the doctor because she helps people ,and knows what to say if her friends are feeling down

[@malcolmhope]

Good to have you talking about current Who again, Wingy, I have missed it! I can’t disagree about the writing, acting and lore changes in this era but I can’t say I haven’t enjoyed it all the same as I’ve still found a lot of it entertaining. I’m looking forward to seeing what comes next… “Still, the future lies this way” ⬆️

[@floppymoonfish4882]

Well said man

[@neddystark3351]

I hated the 13th Doctor era.....until I saw the 60th anniversary specials! I'll hand it to this show, they find so many ways to disappoint.

[@lawrencestalbow-best2317]

This era was horrendous. I'm the most optimistic of fans, forgiving of so many failings of the show (hell, Warriors Of The Deep is my second favourite episode ever). But even I felt that this whole era was a struggle to wade through. Chris Chibnall utterly ruined the feel and structure of my favourite TV show.

[@coyotehater]

There has been only one episode that I enjoyed, Fugitive of the Judoon. It’s the only episode I can actually remember. The rest, nothing.

[@andrewroberts4736]

Thanks for this Wingy. I watched every episode as scheduled as I have been a fan since 1975. This era has been very poor. I have not enjoyed it as it was too political , badly written and in parts, badly acted. I agree with what Wingy said about the real problem being the writing. Jodie would have been a brilliant Doctor with good writing. Fingers crossed for Sunday.

[@TK3477]

First not a fan of Jodie as a whole. Saw her in Attack the block and Broadchurch, and when she was announced for DW, I was seriously disappointed. That said, I don't hate her... I just don't think she's a good actor. I want to push back on Graham being like the other two. In the first story, his wife dies. So he felt more like he was traveling to get revenge which they forgot all the way til the end. Still though, he had a reason to go. The other two? Still no clue. Also you mentioned the old monsters but there were no old monster in her first season by design. They felt they didn't need them but then tried to course correct as the backlash got intense quick. Jodie's run was plagued by bad writing. Her Doctor died the death of 1,000 bad ideas and by disrespecting the fanbase. As such I was not sorry to see her go.

[@conallhomer453]

I despise it. An absolute travesty! The worst doctor who has ever been and I cannot for the life of me understand why there are people out there who like it. It’s not Jodie Whittaker’s fault though as it’s all on Chibnall as the writing was tragically bad. I think I have almost lost my love for the show completely now. So sad. It had potential but it was absolutely diabolical. Terrible acting, the companions were dreadful and were so 1 dimensional, absolutely no redeeming qualities about them as characters, not relatable, they were like robots on the set. They never should’ve changed what they did. If the doctor was originally a woman then I’d still be saying the same thing which proves I’m not sexist. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. The capaldi era wasn’t perfect by any means but at least the doctor had an identity and he really was the doctor we all knew and loved. I could go on but I won’t enough said.

[@hazbomusic]

i think it’s an ok era, i don’t like the lore changes that you mentioned, they go against everything that makes the character special, and the exposition at times can be way too much. but i do think they’re is more to Graham than just ‘Bradley Walsh’ losing the woman he loves and trying to win over Ryan in opinion was an interesting arc, and I do think Jodie did try her best in the role, but it must hard for her to deliver lines that sound like a child wrote them.

[@Classic80sFanboy]

Some great observations there Wingy, and I too, have felt disappointed (and sometimes preached at) every Series of 13ths run.

[@samharris266]

YES! I'm not the only one who always mixes 'It takes you Away' with 'Can You Hear Me'.

[@ottopenquist5545]

I had been a fan since 1974. After Season 11, I gave up on it. Almost every episode was a bore fest and, as an American, I knew all the historical inaccuracies of Rosa. I will tune in when RTD takes over and see if he fixes it.

[@brentwaid4397]

I get a lot of what your saying. I didn’t like a lot of the Whitaker era the shortened season by far was my favorite maybe because it was shorter the story had to be more streamlined instead of bloated other than the lore change which still boggles my mind

[@dxctr_master]

Really hope this doesn’t go too much into Jodie as an actor 😬 I feel the quality of writing could have been massively improved for her Doctor and her era overall with it in areas missing the mark massively, for me I was a lot younger when the era began so for me I really enjoyed it upon first watch, I think it’s about what you look for in TV and for me it was something where I could have fun for around 45 minutes and enjoy more of the actors/characters, but I do think it went down quite a bit for series 12, after around Fugetive of the Judoon, ngl whilst series 11 can be seen as a bit boring with not much going on, at least it didn’t anger as many fans. That being said I do think Chibnall’s era was really good with casting, besides Tosin Cole who’s performance I saw as quite flat most of the time, although with there being multiple companions nobody gets enough time to shine, but Jodie and Mandip especially have been really great ambassadors for the show and I always think they gave 100%, looking forward to the video when it comes out and I hope u find enjoyment out of Power of The Doctor

[@martinmorles1]

I think the issue is that RTD and Moffat had set a particular format for so long , that when Chibnal came and made of buch of changes many didn't give it a change. I think If had bought someone like Bill a lot sooner and maybe experimented with newer monsters it would have helped the transition.

[@Problembeing]

So - After all that canon busting Gormless Child nonsense, Chibnall lost his nerve or had the BBC pull it from underneath him and no resolution to it whatsoever. Totally p!ssed over canon and for what? Nothing. Same with the 'Thasmin' gay-baiting. Chibnall tried to satiate a very vocal minority in this fandom to the exclusion of everyone else, fans and general public alike, and in the end, only succeeded is p!ssing EVERYONE off. I couldn't face/palm long enough. Would be very interested in your thoughts on all that.

[@IsaacWhittakerDakin]

Yeah but Wingy Media isn't a bigot like you, he talks about stuff in Doctor Who that actually happens, he doesn't make shit up about the creatives "insulting the fanbase"

[@zillaquazar]

I'm watching it for thr first time and everything you said is exactly what I feel. She doesn't act like the doctor, I don't remember anything about any episode as soon as they finnish. They have some good idea but that's it, the companions are useless. It's just shite and hollow

[@allenrhys844]

Oh my God! The incredible venom you would have/I've been through. It's not been fun watching or being a part of this fandom for over five years now. I'm bitter the show took such a dive in quality, and yet if long time fans mentioned it we were bigots, haters of all women, and scum.

[@MsCallofdutyblackops]

Wingy can you do a review on the power of the doctor for your next video

[@brotherurth1625]

Spot on. I genuinely feel sorry for Jodie I really do.

[@wjec1970]

Great video - you randomly came up in my suggestions!

[@colinhogg7867]

Think you made some fair points. Tried to like Jodie' s Doctor but she never really convinced me. Jo Martin nailed the part for me. Too much exposition, wasted opportunities, poor characterisation and plots, heavy handed preachiness. Glad the Chibnall era is gone and we can be excited again at RTD' s return.