My thoughts on the war within - World of warcraft

[@Verdis_deMosays]

I haven't bothered with PvP since I found the hard way that carry services premade the shuffles. Til blizz shuts down service sellers, I won't be back.

[@LvladenPvP]

We’re paying the cost on retail for faster expansions and multiple versions of WoW. Quality has gone down. I don’t necessarily think WoWs sub numbers are down. Everyone is just playing a different version. The same thing happened each time a new classic mode came out. People will come back eventually. But blizz needs to be ready with quality content for when that happens.

[@Tylerbo111]

Yeah i can agree with this theres just SOOOO many modes of wow even on retail we have solo shuffle bg blitz 2v2 3v3 rated bgs and all the randoms We also have classic for the millionth time now as well haha we soon weil have MOP classic as well people spread all over the place now

[@thomasj3421]

I love TWW. It's one of the best expansions, imo. I will definitely come back when season 2 starts.

[@g.g.2359]

I dont even play blitz due queues. I have like2 hrs per day and last time i had to wait 41 min Q to play for 15 and another 37 min Q for the second game😢 So i just play random bg's where i have 4-6 min Q's. Solo ahuffle queues are also between 18 to 25 min for me. Also i dont see difference between classes . For example queueing as ret or ww monk i get same long queues and yhose 2 classes have world difference in terms of representation. I dont see less Q times on least popular classes . If u check drustvar WW monks are like 4 times less than retri and i still wait the ssame. Its just nuts at this point. Helear role ahould vanish and all from pvp, alll helears revamped with proper dps spec and everyone should heal/peel on their own and may the best win. Also no farming gear and no leveling. Pure pvp mode realms , create max characters , dress them from a vendor for free and play qith less than a min Q. like every proper pvp game in 2024. Pvp does not need gear progression nor healers. Fast games, fast queue and super fast vendor gearing like tournament realms. Its all about the pvp not the jorney ...this is not pve. Get online, get dressed and start competing. I would pay ffor such realms on different subscription if i have to...what we have now is absolute garbage for pvp plaayer base. PS: sry for spelling, phone keyboard is killing me 😂

[@Tylerbo111]

@g.g.2359 yeah I have been in same boat I ended up going for 1800 for tmog but queues are so long I stick to normal bgs as they aren't as bad

[@kantace5198]

Honestly, the brawls just need to go and rnd BGs need to receive the BGB ruleset. Class balance is now in a decent spot and I am hopeful that queue times may be better again, once S2 comes around. Right now, the player numbers are just really low

[@Tylerbo111]

@@kantace5198 i love some of the brawls too much for them to leave so I can't agree there but I agree with your 2nd point for sure

[@thsevecha]

I only disagree about Dragonflight wpvp being better. That was the worst wpvp expansion by far because they introduced a thousand op buffs. People could click a food table and 1 shot people. I agree about follower dungeons queue abuse tho, but that was also available near the end of dragonflight lol

[@Tylerbo111]

Ye i didnt like df wpvp either i guess my point is both of them suck atm

[@thsevecha]

@@Tylerbo111 yep! hopefully blizz fix the follower queue thing

[@gregmashore4361]

This game honestly seems like it’s on life support

[@scottp7600]

They need to get rid of blow off abilities and engineering gadgets cc is bad enough

[@Tylerbo111]

Wait toys? thats something iv never heard before. No joke i think this game would completely not exist with how many things people say should be gone i think iv heard every thing should be gone at this point lol

[@scottp7600]

Sorry not toys but gadgets from engineering

[@scottp7600]

If you watch solitary pop and aluneth master mage god they use they all the time and so many other people too. I was playing my destro warlock in epic BG went for hangar to destroy the wall and I was nowhere near the cliff and got launched off all the way to the mid point where the tanks are. Seriously they ruin the game. Imo that is.

[@Tylerbo111]

@@scottp7600 Oh okay thats different got ya

[@Tylerbo111]

@@scottp7600 Yeah i get what u mean random bgs have always been like that at least with BG Blitz they arent useable so you can queue for those and not have to worry about that at least cant say the same for knock backs tho from classes like shaman with thunderstorm etc they have always been around

[@winyonzentrada]

I think WoW should drop the racial benefits, where it doesn't affect PvP or PvE where every race is at the same page.

[@akirameru675]

RPG. Role Playing Game. Stop trying to dumb down the game.

[@winyonzentrada]

@akirameru675 And? It's not dumbing down the game, of everyone is at the same page, where you can equally compete. Racials could be related to other stuff and you still get to choose your race, not based on how well a race performs in PvP or PvE. As of now, that is the case many do, rather than to choose the race you like, you are boxed into choosing the minmax benefits from said race, because why would you not want an edge. Frankly your argument is ridiculous.

[@akirameru675]

@@winyonzentrada you aren't boxed in at all. Racials are such a small part of the game its a joke to say anything but the top 0.1 percent of players need to min max them. Don't ruin my game making everything the exact same. It's gone far enough already. You pretending my argument is ridiculous is ridiculous. Nobody pays your subscription but you.