You see the beard of laziness, but I appreciate the click all the same.
@GortFromAltier43 жыл бұрын
Great channel, very informative. Currently I'm torn between the RT85 and the pro ject carbon evo. I do like that pro ject has multiple options on their site for upgrades too. Most likely going with them. Thanks for the great content!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@GortFromAltier4 I'm glad you're enjoying the channel.
@iulian90722 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack 😁🤭
@Captain058 Жыл бұрын
Smooth bald head is +10 credibility, then the beard adds another +10. Starting the advice with "here's what not to buy ever" sold me for good. 👍
@darbecue3 жыл бұрын
your opening message about crosley, victrola, etc. is unbelievably kind and helpful when compared to most other creators. it is so hard for people getting into vinyl-especially young people-to find useful information from someone who isn’t condescending. i wish i would have found your channel 6 years ago lol.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I've found throughout the years that coming down harshly on inferior products right out of the gate doesn't do much to get people to listen. Lots of people have those players but mainly because they don't know any better. I'd rather be polite and try to share some knowledge than be dismissive or judgemental.
@devilzdandruff9199 Жыл бұрын
I know a few people that play their vinyl on Crosleys and they love them! No issues. No scratched up/damaged vinyl like some say. It’s also quite a jump in price between a Crosley and say an ATLP120. Some people can’t afford a $400 record player and opt to get one for less than $100. I say go for it. It gets them into the hobby and it puts a smile on their faces. Nothing wrong there.
@jonmccauley6490 Жыл бұрын
@@devilzdandruff9199 Agreed. Some people just want to play their old records. If they're looking at those $50-100 players, then there's a reason why they're not also looking at the $200+ ones. They just want an easy way to listen to them! Also don't agree they'll damage them.
@richardcline1337 Жыл бұрын
@@jonmccauley6490, playing the Devil's advocate here, there have been tests run on the el cheapo Crosley Cruisers and the unbelievable knockoffs using old tried and true names such as Philco, Fisher and such. Yes, they are cheap junk, no getting past that and the speakers that are mounted in them sound almost as bad as the old transistor radios of the early 60's. BUT, and I am going by many different test results that have been pushed, these turntables can do the job but with one thing needed.....frequent stylus (needle) changes. These generally come with a sapphire needle and those last almost long enough to play one record before starting to wear. IF you have one of these Crosley's, do yourself a huge favor and immediately swap out that needle for a good quality diamond. As a guide, a diamond stylus (needle) should be replaced after 800 to 1,000 hours of playing time. Do this often and the el cheapo can give many hours of listening pleasure with minimal damage to your records.
@Discocrunk3 жыл бұрын
THIS is how you do a review! Spectacular content man - getting a record player for someone special to me, and your warning about ruining records by purchasing a cheap player was a fantastic call out. Appreciate you!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@sickasiam50243 жыл бұрын
Doing the exact same thing, and I was searching someone as good as him!
@roxisalas2113 жыл бұрын
Which one did you decide to go with?
@sickasiam50243 жыл бұрын
@@roxisalas211 ProJect Carbon Evo for me :)
@DougMcDave2 жыл бұрын
@@sickasiam5024 The Carbon may be my upgrade, later on.
@chrisdash13 жыл бұрын
I looked at a number of turntables including all of the ones in the video and the Orbit Special but ended up buying the Debut Carbon Evo with the walnut finish. It arrived yesterday and I could not be happier with my choice. This is a game changer in sound, even with my lower end preamp. Easy setup and great build. It looks and sounds amazing!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
What you get for that money is really quiet impressive. I'm glad you're happy with it.
@DougMcDave2 жыл бұрын
Santa just gave us an Audio technica AT-LPGO-BT (Wal-Mart renaming of the AT-LP60XBT). It's the best turntable they sell. I was able to get it with my employee discount for about $150. It's my return to listening to vinyl LPs for the first time since the 1980's, plus it isn't one of those El-cheapos you mentioned! So far, I'm pleased. If my mother or I want to play our records, just place the record on the platter and press the start button, and that's it. The player takes care of everything else. I'm just getting started, and find the sound acceptable for now.
@jw69822 жыл бұрын
This makes me love my $100 Technics SL-Q2 even more.
@jasonalaimo17273 жыл бұрын
I love the Fluance line. I did purchase the RT 85, and it comes with an Acrylic platter and Ortofon 2M Blue cartridge. Sounds fantastic. Easy set up. I’m a fan of black, and the piano finish is gorgeous.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
They make a fine table.
@RawKnee11113 жыл бұрын
I too am happy with my Fluance. I got the Rt84. The only difference in the 2 is the Acrylic platter.
@Dysl3xicDog2 жыл бұрын
Rt85 vs pro-ject carbon?
@wylieroth3145 Жыл бұрын
Got that one myself. It's a fine table for the $.
@rihonnascoggins27405 ай бұрын
I just want to say, I have watched about 10 similar videos in the past few days to narrow my choices down and you explained everything in such a clear concise way that I can say I've learned more from this one video than all of the others combined. Thank you for making this!
@thevinylattack5 ай бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful.
@MikeBertelsenDK Жыл бұрын
I search for "what vinyl player to buy " and I saw this dude... I always trust a man with a nice long beard. It's a sign of wisdom. I don't regret clicking the video!
@lobstame9 ай бұрын
The last time I purchased a new turntable was around 1985. I purchased a Denon with a servo arm, AT-130e cart etc. around $450.00 just knocked me out. I gave it away by mistake. I just purchased a new TT since that grievous loss/mistake. I purchased a U-Turn Theory, 3 year warranty Ortofon Bronze for about $1,000.00 and it is a great sounding manual belt drive. It sounds very good and looks almost great as well. Cris, you might look at the U-Turn line sometime as you build your own and warranty can’t be beat, customer service is spot on and quick. They are out of Massachusetts.
@brianconneranweig17723 жыл бұрын
I recently upgraded my TT from the AT60XBT to the Fluance RT83 and wow, what a difference it made! I paired it with the Project Phono box MM into Jamo 801 powered speakers with a Yamaha sub. Just getting back into vinyl after 30+ years and loving it. Love your channel and I look forward to more of your content.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
You may consider buying the acrylic platter down the line as they sell it separately on the Fluance website.
@jaeshellz2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the time you put into this. I just picked up the audio-technica 60!
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help.
@davidgena26673 жыл бұрын
Love both my Fluance RT83 and RT85 turntables. Beautiful tables that sound great.
@richJimZ8882 жыл бұрын
Great review! The Carbon EVO for Father's Day and I am so happy! This is my 1st turntable in a long time and couldn't be happier with the gift from my family. I have rediscovered vinyl and now my off days are consumed with record shop exploration.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@felipefernandomendes42732 ай бұрын
wich speakers brand are u using?
@thomaslytle55193 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention: the Fluance RT-85 which comes with the Ortifon 2m Blue and acrylic platter. The best under $500 imo in looks, build quality and sound.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It's a very good table.
@Drivehead103 Жыл бұрын
1998 Technics sl-1200 MK5.... Game over! I purchased one in 2016 and absolutely love it with ortofon 2m black mounted in sumiko headshell and run through project tube box s with audioquest interconnect.
@TheGlotz693 жыл бұрын
These are great recommends and at the level of knowledge a beginner needs. Killer job. Keep your table true and on a sturdy surface. Think about additional vibration control, even DIY.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful.
@nelsono43152 жыл бұрын
excellent video! A few years back I got myself the Pro-Ject Carbon Debut turntable. It came with the Ortofon 2M Red cartridge but I since have replaced that with the 2M Blue. I got it for $499 and I could not be happier with this table. I got the high gloss red and it looks real nice. I did also recently invest in the Schitt Mani. I go way back with vinyl records and I am beyond happy that I kept my collection all these years. I play my records regularly and love not only the sound of vinyl but the whole process. Love your channel!
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it's working out well for you. I'm glad to hear it.
@shaunjp22112 жыл бұрын
Brit , can agree about the Rega P1 and it sounds fantastic. Although I have added a couple of things like an acrylic platter and a Audio-technica AT VM95E cartridge. TT is connected to Musical Fidelity V90 LPS and Musical Fidelity M2si.
@CameronPriceJ2 жыл бұрын
Hey there, How much better did you find the AT VM95E?
@shaunjp22112 жыл бұрын
@@CameronPriceJ Hi for the money it’s a massive improvement over the Carbon. But am thinking of fitting Elys 2 as I’m being told that’ll be a huge hike in performance..
@CameronPriceJ2 жыл бұрын
@@shaunjp2211 thank you :)
@charlesschwamb37582 ай бұрын
I found this video after I made a purchase of a new turntable. Had been loving music for over 55 years and conclude I not a very smart person. I have gone the route of vinyl to CD and now digital on my I phone. Spent a good amount of money looking for the best method and now closing in at being 70 yrs old decided I had it already in vinyl. I thought my record collection was junk and went to digital years back. Somehow I got smart, bought a vinyl record cleaning kit and a new turn table. I need to toss a few albums but most of my collection plays great and the sound to me is better. I feel the turntable was a big influence and is the Pro Ject Debut model.
@kirkyorg76543 жыл бұрын
still have my vintage pioneer pl 200 from the eighties still works like a charm
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
If it ain't broke...
@billpemberton39823 жыл бұрын
Still have my PL-12D from when I was 17 and the SX-424 receiver. Never give them up.
@maxbg Жыл бұрын
I am using the AT-LP60X-USB to archive my records into lossless digital files for playing when on the go.
@tryingtracy93293 жыл бұрын
Ordered my project evo today. Looked at so many reviews then found this after I ordered. Think i will be happy. Great review 👌
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Be sure to drop back by and let us know how you like it.
@tryingtracy93293 жыл бұрын
Well. I think I am obsessed. Love my Evo. Worth the money. Looks so stylish. Easy to set up ( biggest issue was getting it flat 😎).
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@tryingtracy9329 I'm glad to hear it!
@JonathanHiller3 жыл бұрын
Pro-Ject makes very solid turntables. Good choice.
@sloan4953 жыл бұрын
Just got the Fir Green Debut Carbon Evo 4 days ago. Upgraded from an AT LP120, which I'm passing down to our son. I love the Evo, sounds and looks great.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I bet it looks sharp in person.
@alexanderleatherman3 жыл бұрын
almost thought about buying one of those little vinyl destroyers! thank you! I grew up listening to CDs and in high school you either had an ipod or still loved your cds. I absolutely noticed cheap players resulted in CD scratches, so im not dumbfounded but it makes absolute sense vinyl is able to be damaged. as you can tell, very new here.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Everyone starts somewhere. I'm glad you found the video helpful.
@AnthonyLGreen-cz9wy Жыл бұрын
I have had an ATLP60BT since COVID started. I wanted to upgrade it so I just purchased the AT LP120xBT. It sounds so much better and I think I have more leeway to upgrade things on it vs the LP60. I hope to keep this for a few years and maybe upgrade again if the hobby love is still there, LOL
@strataca2 жыл бұрын
Any plans on releasing a 2022 update? Prices seem to have exploded recently in the US, knocking your top 2 out of the sub-500 price range. I’m curious if that change would have you include the fluance 85, variants of the uturn orbit, or lower tier models from Pro-ject. Big fan of your channel. The content is incredible and the production value is superb.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely on my mind.
@lucachiarotto04222 жыл бұрын
I have a REGA P1 plus in RSD limited edition (it have a pre amp integrated) and I'm very happy. I will probably change the cartige with a Bias2 to increase the sound quality.
@stevesstuff14502 жыл бұрын
Don't know if you've changed cartridge yet...if not, don't be in too much of a hurry! The 'Carbon' that comes supplied may be a re-badged Audio Technica AT91 (NOT the 3600L) cartridge, but it rivals and betters many cartridges up over the £200-ish range, just in it's subtlety and ease of bass, it's dynamics, and overall smooth tone, with a lovely sheen on the top-end; cymbals sound like REAL cymbals!! Many cartridges can't do that! The arm it's attached to helps it too.... that Rega RB110 arm is a very high quality tonearm; it may be lowest of the Rega range, but that doesn't mean it's no good; it's better than most arms on turntables currently available under a £1000... just feel the silky-smooth bearings as you move and use it! Quality! The only way to improve on that is to change to a P2 or P3, etc.... The Carbon cartridge just works in that arm, and sounds sublime! I have the slightly older RP1 turntable with the RB101 tonearm, that includes Bias/Anti-Skate adjustment, and have considered many times upgrading the Carbon, but then changing my mind; it just sounds so good with this deck!! :-D
@geepee2803 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, like your approach, well done, good luck.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@Tmfirestone Жыл бұрын
Want to thank you for the suggestions. I have a Project Debut EVO coming today. Boy am I excited!
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
I imagine so. Let us know how you like it.
@anthonyf39572 жыл бұрын
The AT-LP3 is a similar, but superior option to the AT-LP60. Still fully-automatic and belt-driven, it comes with a better cartridge and a removeable headshell for easy future upgrades. It also has a manual counterweight and tracking. There is also a switch that allows you to use MM as well as MC cartridges, although buying an expensive MC cartridge to use with this particular turntable seems counterproductive to me; you would probably be better off buying a higher-end turntable. Basically it fits in between the LP60 and LP120X in the Audio-Technica lineup. Honestly, I think it is a better starter table than either one.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
It's also $100 more than the LP60 and some people just can't swing that.
@onefatstratcat2 жыл бұрын
The Fluance 82 for the same money is a better sounding table.. automatic turntables are for pussies :)
@421CentralIowa3 жыл бұрын
I had a Pro-Ject Debut III leave a bad taste in my mouth about 10 years ago. I had it upgraded with the acrylic platter and Ortofon 2M red. At about 500 bucks it had a disappointing hum from the motor. You either send the vibrations into the record, which came over the speakers or bolted the motor to the plinth with leather washers and sent the vibration into the plinth which you could just hear in the room as it resonated quietly. I just bought a U-Turn Orbit special with the solid walnut plinth for 500 bucks this fall. So far, so good. No annoying mechanical noises to deal with, but it's not perfect because it picks up the slightest interference in the tonearm or undercarriage guts from something nearby (power supply, the xBox, etc...) However, I like that it's made in the USA and I would recommend it to anyone wanting a nice first turntable that's good enough to last for years and not damage LPs. It frustrates me how cheaply the lid hinges are made and that it has a plastic spindle, both things that probably don't matter. But it still wasn't made in China or elsewhere overseas which is a factor for me. Finally, U-Turn the company is really good about getting you squared away if you have issues with them.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
U-Turn definitely have some solid products available.
@somdfishing46523 жыл бұрын
Great video and a great new channel. The fluance rt series is fantastic 👍🏻
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input. I agree, those Fluance tables are hard to beat at that price range.
@viggozing5982 жыл бұрын
Well done, Chris! And I like your final, "There's an age old adage, not only do you listen with your ears, but also with your eyes. A good looking product make you want to play it!"
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
I've found it to be accurate over the years.
@ericgarza32393 жыл бұрын
I was told that the LP12 Klimax was the best but then looked at price 😯 So I’m thinking your number 5 choice seems like a good choice 👍🏼
@TheErikBallew2 жыл бұрын
I have the ATLP120X. With a Grado black. I love it! ❤️
@EskWIRED2 жыл бұрын
I just bought one for my son. Did the cartridge upgrade make a big difference?
@TheErikBallew2 жыл бұрын
@@EskWIRED It really did. The one that came with it isn't bad, but just putting a Grado Black on it made a big difference.
@quikspecv4d3 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded from the Fluance RT81 to the Debut Carbon Evo with the acrylic platter upgrade. It gets delivered tomorrow. I can’t wait. I will be swapping my upgraded Ortofon 2m blue from my RT81 to the Debut and vice versa. I’m not ready to upgrade my Schmitt Mani yet though as it sounds epic paired with my Swan M3A powered speakers. If you haven’t heard the M3A’s, I highly recommend them. They are the best speakers I have heard anywhere near the price. I’m talking phenomenal sound. They are probably the best hidden gem in audio right now. Also, great video!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard them actually. I'll see if I can't get my hands on some for a demo. Thanks for the heads up.
@joeymartinez89773 жыл бұрын
Upgrading your Schiit Mani to what? If I may ask.
@quikspecv4d3 жыл бұрын
@@joeymartinez8977 I upgraded to a Vincent PH-701 tube preamp and rolled the tube. Don’t remember the tube at the moment. It’s pretty great. I also moved my 2M blue back to the RT81/Mani after upgrading my Debut Carbon Evo to the 2M Bronze.
@larrysmacАй бұрын
"Thermoplastic elastomer" I see that you had to think about that as you said it. But don't worry, I can assure you that it only gets worse with age. 😉 But seriously-great review! I purchased an AT-LP120XUSB a couple of years ago because it had good reviews, and slightly resembled the design of an old Technics SL-D2 that I regrettably gave away. I plan on upgrading, but until then, I'm quite happy with the AT.
@kcad19743 жыл бұрын
Great video with lots of great info. Keep up the good work. I have the Fluance RT-85 which took me just slightly over the $500 mark after tax but I really liked the upgrades of the acrylic platter and the 2m blue cartridge...and I love it!!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Fluance tables really fly under the radar. You get a lot for your money.
@jonathanreich63603 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack I've been staring at that deal as well. Where would that fit on your list? I understand the blue cartridge is worth a lot by itself.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanreich6360 I'd put the 85 right around the Rega mark. Personally I'd still go with the Evo. The 2M blue is a fine cart, but the better build of the Evo leans me that way.
@jonathanreich63603 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Thanks for taking the time to respond. Appreciate the information and the time you took putting the video together.
@nanchanger3 жыл бұрын
Don't buy made in China...
@jori739811 ай бұрын
Thannnnk you! You saved me 250 smackers on the Angels thingy-and educated me about what will be great over the years. I’m feeling good about the last model. Happy holidays!
@thevinylattack11 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@martinmerino32723 жыл бұрын
You’re a natural! Looking forward to more videos.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the kind words. More to come soon!
@paw452 жыл бұрын
When I was much younger. Reel to reel, Vinyl and 8 track cartridges were state of the art. Today pressings of new vinyl are very affordable, considering the fact that that in 1970. It took a couple of hours worth of my then low wages. Just to buy one vinyl LP.
@jeremyr7223 жыл бұрын
I just bought myself an Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit. It sounds great and looks great. The anti-skate could be better but overall I’m quite happy. It has a much smoother top end than my old Pro-Ject Elemental, which is good as I’m quite sensitive to treble
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Pro-Ject is killing it with the affordable mid-tier tables these days. The platter on that Esprit is a really nice upgrade to combat resonance.
@johnholmes912 Жыл бұрын
I have one and have upgraded the cartridge, subplatter and power supply and use the ground-it platform; this transformed a good deck into a great one!
@iamenergizer9766 Жыл бұрын
Im new just starting to get into the Hobby, and i gotta say! you have the best review out there right now! I was getting so lost in what to even look for, How much i should be spending! and youre video hit it right on the head! kinda solidified my option of the Pro-ject carbon evo! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful.
@Oldbugssy3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I just subbed! I never thought getting back into vinyl would happen again after a long hiatus from it. I have a plan and thanks to your real reviews I now have direction.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear it. Be sure to drop by now and then and tell us how you're coming along.
@thecatgyp68502 жыл бұрын
My daily driver is a Pioneer PL117D with an Audio-Technica AT-VMN95ML - using the ART Pro Audio DJ PRE II Phono Preamplifier connected to a DBX 3BX Series II, the Behringer Ultragraph Pro FBQ3102 and my Pioneer VSX 933 - strictly for playing my vinyl collection -
@philipadams33253 жыл бұрын
Ugggh! I feel like I am deep in the weeds trying to pick out a turntable in the 500 or less realm. Your review was most substantial I have found.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I hope it was able to help narrow down some decisions for you.
@philipadams33253 жыл бұрын
@@thevinylattack Yes, some good thoughts. I have had a AT-LP140X in my cart for a week or two trying to decide. I know you did not review it specifically, but what you said about 120 combined with what I've read are positive.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@philipadams3325 Sounds like you're well on your way with the research.
@philipadams33253 жыл бұрын
Well after forever trying to decide I bought a Fluance RT85.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
@@philipadams3325 I'm sure you'll enjoy it for years to come. Well done.
@Christina_Bodmer2 жыл бұрын
Wow! You’re so knowledgeable! Thank you for making this video!
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MrDraven373 жыл бұрын
Love seeing the Rega make the list, it's usually left out for being too 'pricey' but you do get what you pay for. I have a P1 (running through a cambridge audio AXA35 integrated amp and cambridge audio SX50 bookshelf speakers) and absolutely love it. If/when I upgrade, it's going to be to a P3, just love Rega so much.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@johnholmes9123 жыл бұрын
te lower end regas suffer from being supplied with poor-quality cartrdges, go for the rp3 as your minimum standard
@MrDraven373 жыл бұрын
The P1 works fine for me and the sound is better than a Debut Carbon with an Ortofon Red. When I do upgrade in a few years time, it will be to a P6.
@jamesthomastomanders3 жыл бұрын
@@johnholmes912 RP1 bias 2 upgrade 🔥
@MrDraven373 жыл бұрын
@Iron Reagan I haven't changed the stylus on my P1, I've been happy with what it came with.
@JamesSmith-bv3uh4 ай бұрын
Your hiding videos are extremely helpful. Thank you!
@IonicApple3 жыл бұрын
Fire video! Just getting into playing vinyl, and I've been doing a lot of research and this video was super helpful!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad to hear it.
@oswaldcobblebot10 ай бұрын
Excellent advice! Thank you, sir! also - your beard styling is amazing if I'm allowed to say so. As a bearded man myself, I recognize the greatness!
@jenniferkumnick55613 жыл бұрын
Getting back into vinyl and looking get reacquainted with my neglected collection. The Evo is so appealing and it's really the one I want but if I'm honest with myself, one of the fluance TTs is probably a better fit for me since they stop turning at the end of the record. I keep researching thinking something is going to pop up that will make me finally make a decision. But I'm still waffling. I'd kind of decided on the Fluance 85 but coming across your video this evening has brought me back to analysis paralysis.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
You'll not go wrong with the Fluance. If that fits your lifestyle better, I can assure you it'll be money well spent.
@nimahamidnia30372 жыл бұрын
Hi jennifer did you end up getting a fluance because I'm in the same boat and not sure
@russhaven15752 жыл бұрын
Great review and overview of top contenders. Synthesized a lot of information and provided reasonable judgments without hyperbole.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@kwd-kwd3 жыл бұрын
the older Japanese direct drive turntables have MUCH better wow and flutter specs. The reason Rega ( and even companies like Thorens), do not post the W&F spec because they hope you won't find out how far off the speed accuracy is. If you have never had a direct drive turntable you may not notice, but if you do get a DD table you will notice a differece.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
All the quality tables that I've checked out in recent years have listed wow and flutter. The lower end models might not, but I don't think that's a big surprise.
@MidnightBanshi Жыл бұрын
I purchased the AT-LP120XUSB a couple of weeks ago, because I wanted a direct-drive turntable, and I must say I am not disappointed at all!
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
It's a strong buy at that price point. I'm glad you like it.
@elCaxi19713 жыл бұрын
My Bang&Olufsen RX2 is celebrating it´s (at least) 30th birthday this very month :D Long live Vintage !
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to hear that.
@ashlvs Жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful video, thanks for this TVA! I was on the fence, but you sold me on the Fluance RT83.
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
I'm just happy you found it helpful.
@CliffForster3 жыл бұрын
I have the Fluance and upgraded it with the Audio Technica AT-VM95ML. What a massive upgrade. It basically eliminates any inner groove distortion and to my ears it eliminates this slight smearing that I hear on the Ortofon. If someone picks up the Fluance I totally recommend picking up that microline stylus.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It's a good table to experiment on with upgrades.
@blakebruner6173 Жыл бұрын
You went from a $99 Ortofon 2M Red cartridge to a $67 VM95E? Interesting that you're more pleased. But we each hear differently. I want to hear the Sumiko Olympia cartridge @ $199. Have read great things about it's quality. Supposedly better than Ortofon 2M Blue $239.
@CliffForster Жыл бұрын
@@blakebruner6173 i actually upgraded to the microline but the audio technica elliptical also sounds better than that dreadful 2M Red. The 2M Red tracks poorly to a point that the last track on every side sounds distorted. I have tried it in four different tables, aligning it, trying to adjust the tracking force to see if that would fix it, that cartridge to me is just flawed. The audio technica cheap conical actually tracks better. The microline though, night and day for a few dollars more.
@dille2492 жыл бұрын
I ended up buying the Project Debut Carbon based on your rec! It gets here Friday. Thanks for the advice!
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Let us know how you like it.
@Izobretenik2 жыл бұрын
I love the pace, the atmosphere and the perfectly clear explanations that go with every turntable you introduce. Thanks for this amazing review. I have watched this video a few times over the pas few weeks, so I could make the right choice... The thing is, I'm in Japan, and the only turntable that's actually affordable (meaning, no insanely high shipping and import fees from the UK or the US) is the Planar 1 MK2. I really made a lot of research because I love the look of the Fluance RT (83 or 85) or the Pro-Ject Debut, but these two are just impossible to find at the right price in Japan. Right now, I'm thinking about setting up the Planar 1 MK2 with the Denon PMA600NE and Q-Acoustics speakers (3020i or 3030i?). Not sure it is the right combination yet but every time I dig more about turntables, I'm completely lost and feel I have to start all over again :D Any opinion on this set up is welcome!
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
If you're in Japan you might simply look at used Technics SL 1200's. They're everywhere over there and they're really affordable.
@t.c.b47223 жыл бұрын
Love my lp60X. It's cheap, no nonsense, and sounds great.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have a great fit. Nice.
@marklamutt3 жыл бұрын
I also love my new Fluance RT-85. Been listening to it almost non-stop since getting it 3 weeks ago!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It's a quality table that I'm sure you'll enjoy for years.
@bulldozer96003 жыл бұрын
That’s the table I’m planning to get myself. Right now I’m using one I was given by my dad. A Nikko/Transonic P50. Made somewhere in the 70’s, with a nagaoka 110
@billpemberton39823 жыл бұрын
Bought the RT85 last month also.
@footballlife1729Ай бұрын
Gotta love the price gouging on the lp120 now being one of the best for the money around it’s nearly doubled in sale price
@radio13423 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I really like that Fluance TT. Maybe that will be my next one (that bamboo looks cool). Currently I have the AT-LP120USB (not the current model). I have had mine since about 2012/13. Have never had an issue out of it and we used it almost every day. Pretty solid. I did swap out the AT-95E for an AT-100E (which is no longer made) and it sounds even better. I just keep the 95E as backup. Have never really been disappointed in my decision for an Audio-Technica (I know some people call them Hanpin crap but I've gotten a ton of play time out of it). I also like the U-Turn Orbit. It's always fun to look around but I just don't have the need for more than one TT. Ok, off to check your link for Fluance so I can get a better look and "window shop".
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're happy with your setup and that's truly all that matters.
@eugenebear18723 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on the fence for a long time to jump into the vinyl world and Watched lots of videos but after watching this one I’m comfortable making a good entry investment. I’m going with the 3rd option with the preamp. Thanks!
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it. Enjoy!
@alexandermikhailov24813 жыл бұрын
Greeting from MI! Nice review. I would also add used 1980s Japanese direct drive tables: you can buy one in a very good condition for around $300.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
The only reason I didn't it because the used market is a completely different topic. I appreciate the suggestion!
@KZ-xb8fi3 жыл бұрын
I agree, just picked up a late 70's Sanyo plus series Q50 2 motor Quartz all drive turntable for 70 bucks.. in near mint condition... i love it!!!!!
@svenschwingel86323 жыл бұрын
I still own a 1978 SL-1700. That thing just refuses to die 🤣
@alexandermikhailov24813 жыл бұрын
@@svenschwingel8632 congrats! 🤘 I bought a JVC QL-A51 new in 1984 and it has been my main TT ever since. Here we are in 2021 and it looks and runs like new.
@svenschwingel86323 жыл бұрын
@@alexandermikhailov2481 it seems like low tech always beats high tech in terms of longetivity :D
@scottburgess10352 жыл бұрын
You rock man, thank you for your review. About to do some online shopping...
@joelmsolomon3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! Thanks for this great top 5 under $500(ish). Out of curiosity, I see you have the Fluance RT83 in the list, but not the RT85. How do you feel the RT85 stacks up against the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon EVO? I’ve seen a few YT vids out there by others, but trust your point of view.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
With the cost of the Evo rising about $500 these days, the 85 might be the very best choice at that range.
@MikeB-sp6gp2 жыл бұрын
Mostly mumbo-jumbo to me. Except one thing-- You seem really expert and trustworthy. Thank you for the great advice.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
If you have questions, feel free to ask.
@user-qr7ee2cp4y3 жыл бұрын
Great video! How about a best players 500 - 1000?
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It's something I've put on the list, thanks!
@joet_swbo1013 жыл бұрын
For $499, I'd go with the audio technica lp-1240. Though replace the stock cartridge with an ortofon Blue. Unfortunately, that puts you way over the $500 mark. The 1240 has a 3 pole brushless super OEM motor, very solid. As someone who used to own an old SL2000 MK2, this is as close are you're going to get. Though you can't go wrong with any of the ones suggested here. A for me, I own the LP - 120, first thing that I did (at the time) was to replace the stock cart with a Shure m97x. I also have the LP 1240, with the ortofon Blue
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
All very solid options, thanks for dropping by.
@grn68rt2 жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend against the ATLP60. The lack of anti skate made all of my records skip. It worked well for a week and then I couldn’t get anything to play through.
@surfraptor Жыл бұрын
Bought the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Evo ... love it. Since I'm in Europe (Holland) I got the Ortofon 2M Red. Might upscale to the Blue one. Thanks.
@nighmeansnear3 жыл бұрын
I've never been in a bigger hurry to get rid a piece of stereo gear than with that AT120. I found it to be atrociously poor, with many deal-breaking flaws. I even exchanged it because I thought it must've been defective, but the replacement had the same exact issues. The LP60 is actually a way better turntable IMO, but any of the other three are a much better choice. I really wanted to love it, but it was just straight up horrendous. Buyer beware.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
It'd definitely tough to find a decent table at that cost.
@gopalakrishnasrinivasan1162 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, This is Gopal from Mumbai India. I just started watching your videos and I find them crisp, to the point and VERY useful. Thanks for putting up these videos. Regards Gopala
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@thegood93 жыл бұрын
Great list, btw. I’ll add that the Music Hall Classic, with its’ fine included and aligned MM cart on a P-mount and its semi-auto lift is a STEAL, even at $599…yes that’s 100 over your budget, but, it’s worth the extra 99 over anything on this list, as good as this list is!
@sean84702 жыл бұрын
best table under 300 hands down is the RT81 from Fluance- buy it folks!!!
@lilibear622 жыл бұрын
Thank you! My daughter asked for a turntable for her birthday and yes, too many choices! I would like something mid-range that doesn't need additional equipment, but that doesn't ruin records either. Also blue-tooth and headphones jacks are a must since she's in a shared space.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
If a turntable has Bluetooth, you can just use Bluetooth headphones. One less thing to worry about.
@MichaelLivingston-me3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your choices, even to the point where I purchased a Pro-ject turntable before I saw this video. Your observations confirm what I've learned about budget turntables.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it.
@kyraa10652 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the debut carbon evo (piano white) and this just made me feel more confident in my choice. It's my first TT so I'm excited!
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Let us know how you like it.
@paulreed1142 Жыл бұрын
I chose a Pro Ject Debut Carbon several years ago and have upgraded it with the new aluminum sub platter, the acrylic main platter, the 2M Blue stylus and better inter connects. I wish the feet were adjustable for leveling purposes.
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're just about ready to step it up to the next level. Nicely done.
@jamesmcmillan63503 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video was surprised that you didn't have everyone's darling the Fluance RT85.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
At that price, I just feel the Pro-Ject is a better buy. But, that's just my opinion...
@robertvanzella71063 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. From Victoria BC and New to your channel. So far so good. You sure know your stuff and its a pleasure to here what you have to say. I have the Project Carbon. Unfortunately I have it in my shop and pop vinyl in it every so often so I don't get the benefit as others do. I'm a diy'er and have made and restored multiple speakers for people. One day I'll have a great listening room to experience what I know I'm missing. Thanks for all the info.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@greatpix Жыл бұрын
I just started following your channel and find you're doing excellent reviews, PLUS, going by the shirt you're wearing you're almost in the same neighborhood I grew up in back in the '50s, Redford off Plymouth and Inkster. I wish I were in good enough health to make the trip back there to see what's changed and what hasn't in 60 years.
@thevinylattack Жыл бұрын
It's changed quite a bit.
@SonicHoosier3 ай бұрын
I too have the Debut Carbon Evo and I love it.
@JRiffle_HeaveHoStudio2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I leveled up after watching this. Thanks for the tips.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@MrDoc553 жыл бұрын
Very organized and professional presentation. Informative too. I have the Pro-Ject. I have a powerful 12 in sub and was worried that I might have some feedback or skipping issues when I cranked the volume. To my delight, there were no such issues.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. It's good to hear the sub isn't causing issues. Placement is usually key in that situation.
@edzeljereza82342 жыл бұрын
I have a Crosley but it's not a suitcase. Their top-tier C10 made by Pro-Ject with a Pro-Ject tone arm and the lower tier Ortofon OM5e cart. Right up their with higher-end brand's entry level offerings for $399. It's basically a Pro-Ject Debut with a Crosley badge on it.
@TheHSIHP3 жыл бұрын
I'm all about thrifting for used decks. I just picked up a Dual 604 for 20 bucks at Goodwill. Put new cables and a new dust cover on it. Paid less than 200 for it overall.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that. You can save a ton and end up with some really great stuff.
@jaynayyar97113 жыл бұрын
I got a 1byone turntable red gloss as a Xmas gift last dec. really love mine and glad to get back to listening to records again as I did with my family as a kid in the 80s
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@patrickvdh2 жыл бұрын
Got the Pro-ject debut carbon Evo - thanks for the help and recommendation.
@thevinylattack2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help.
@TBNTX3 ай бұрын
I've owned and enjoyed my RT-85T for three years. In my opinion, nothing is better.
@RedSinter3 жыл бұрын
That times old adage applies to well prepared and served food. A Feast for the Eyes as well as the Palette. Your Platte and Milage may very.
@johnnyflamini84563 жыл бұрын
I'm also looking at the Fluance but the RT85 as you get an acrylic platter w/it. Thanks for the tip on a decent pre-amp. That's another solid piece of advice here as you get some traction in this hobby you will almost certainly need one at some point and could easily be another video review! Well done and thanks for posting this here :)
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
The RT 85 is a nice table as well.
@markwilding38283 жыл бұрын
All useful info. No filler.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so.
@hmrowland61143 жыл бұрын
just added the Evo because of the 78 belt and will replace the cartridge with Ortofon Mono. This will be my third Pro-Ject Debut, couldn't be more pleased with these tables for the price. I run a Sony PS 505 ( the name sake of Play Station) with blue Ortofon, a Carbon with blue. Tradied in a Carbon for the Evo..
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a solid group.
@TexTom1981 Жыл бұрын
If you need a phono pre, go with NAD. Long established great phono stages and the PP 2e gives you MM and MC options. I've got the PP 1 and it's one of those "from my cold dead hands" kinda commitments.
@iix233 жыл бұрын
Great watch. I am thinking of going back to vinyl after a 30 year break. I just can't do the MP3 format anymore. We have have come a long way from having 10 TT available back then when. Thanks for the info.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful.
@GiveUsMusic3 жыл бұрын
I have the AT-LP 60XHP, which is the Audio-Technica headphone variant. It’s a good table, the phono amp is a bit weak in volume supply, but the headphone amp is polar opposite with ample gain. The table will need some speed adjustment out of the box (most likely), but is maybe 0.5-1.0 cents off. I’m enjoying it for over a year, but I’ll be honest, I’m itching for an upgrade in the next few months. No complaints though, would buy it again if I didn’t have disposable income to get an upgrade.
@thevinylattack3 жыл бұрын
A year seems to be a standard amount of time before people start looking for upgrades. I'm glad it's working out either way though.