My Top Performer Hates His Job (Should I Fire Him?)

[@Cohen.the.Worrier]

Our benefits package? We love our people. Sure, we'll fire you after 15 years of being a top performer when you're feeling a bit down, but we love out people. Yeah, that's our benefits package baby ! ! ! 😂 😂 😂

[@UmmahUnified]

Was he feeling down? Or is he truly miserable? Not all people are strong enough to make the decision

[@osu33089]

Yea this is why you don’t get close and personal with your employer. He dug his own grave by not holding his cards. Let it go if the guy performs . Can him if he’s no longer productive, but otherwise, let the guy work out his personal problems. He’s likely dealing with depression or other mental problems that probably have nothing to do with the job. It’s just carrying over. Don’t trust your employer with your thoughts and feelings ever.

[@truthtransistorradio6716]

Say what? If he is still performing, let him stay! If he hates the job, either offer him a promotion, or let him quit on his own terms! I disagree with Dave on this.

[@BusyBodyVisa]

He'll spread his dislike for the job to the other team members.

[@truthtransistorradio6716]

@@BusyBodyVisa Maybe. That's on them.

[@treasurewuji8740]

I have no idea why these two don’t even consider asking how they can help.

[@programaticLearning]

He's been there 15 years and is a top performer? No better opportunities within the company you could find for your 15 year long top performer? Think you and Dave misheard him.

[@stennishampton4625]

Yeah, the correct response should of been "Is there another position here that you think you could be Great at and enjoy". Top Performs are hard to come by, it is a lot of sorry employees out here who love failing everyday.. Promote Good talent, the employee in my opinion was just saying it is so much more he could be doing for the company. That is what I heard.

[@LukePowerstancedUp]

💀imagine being a hard worker and open with your boss and he hits you with a fire date 💀💀

[@darrinlester1566]

This is exactly why you don't tell your boss what you feel.

[@adoe2305]

Yes 🤣🤣🤣 If you want to keep the job you're miserable at, don't tell your boss you're miserable Common sense.

[@DaniCalifornia44]

I don’t get the point of remaining in a position where you hate to be. It is truly miserable for this person when his boss is caring more about his wellbeing than he himself. So in fact, being open serves yourself better than keeping your mouth shut.

[@DaniCalifornia44]

@Planet of the Idiots can you elaborate please?

[@DaniCalifornia44]

@Planet of the Idiots okay, but the important question is can you find a better place of work in your circumstances?

[@therevoman]

@@DaniCalifornia44 if you are a top earner as well as being a top performer, finding a new position isn't always as simple as phoneing up another employer

[@ahoneyman]

Reason #95 of why you don't tell anyone at work about how you feel about anything.

[@DBS472]

Firing an admitted top performer without cause? Cya in court

[@tswagg504]

Legally they can fire you because it rained that day.

[@chrisandsneaky2453]

@@tswagg504 Not really. I was a manager at Walgreens in Indiana years ago. Indiana is an 'at will' employment state, so technically someone can be fired for any reason. Here's what I was told by the store manager I worked for as a management trainee when I first started there: "There is no such thing as 'at will employment,' no matter what the law says. You never, ever, EVER fire an employee without extensively documented cause because if you do, they will sue our company and we will lose. Even if the jury decides in our favor, (and there is no guarantee that they will), we will spend tens of thousands of dollars on legal fees for that win, and it is not worth it."

[@maryricketts7337]

There was a time I was really unhappy with my job, but had a husband with terminal cancer and two sons to care for. There’s no way I could have taken losing my job, no matter how unhappy I was there. My job was the least of my stresses, even if I had to vent my feelings.

[@vaportrails7943]

Who knows, but I suspect what this guy was really trying to communicate is that he felt unappreciated, and wanted a promotion or at least a raise. He would only feel like he wasted those years if he was expecting something that didn’t happen.

[@Crijoe]

Whole heartedly agree

[@Heisrisin3]

The worst damn advice I’ve ever hear Dave Ramsey give. This guy is a great worker. He’s always on time he doesn’t spread grief throughout the other workers or the workplace you better just keep him. And cut out the virtue signaling BS that you’d be letting him go for his own good. Maybe there’s something else going on in his life he just isn’t comfortable talking about.

[@taylorkurtz9749]

My husband is in sales. It’s so stressful! He also hates his job, but it provides for his family. What a devastating blow. Dave…come on!

[@navyseal4000]

The ironic thing is the better you treat your people, the better they work for you and the more returns they tend to produce.

[@JaguarDevice]

In which way is that ironic?

[@adoe2305]

Thanks Captain

[@NaughtyKlaus]

Firing someone after 15 years because they hate their job is a real slap in the face. If I worked somewhere for so long, I'd do it because I know that there isn't anything for me that is financially better than where I'm at, and at that point, it doesn't matter if I hate the work.

[@financialfreedom1991]

If the employee is still performing, let him stay....most don't love theie job but doesn't mean to say that they want to leave. fire him only if and only if he's not productive.

[@sglacf]

Some love their job but don't perform

[@brianh7085]

Dave is very right of corporate America. I worked in it for the past 11 years and just got sick and tired of being sick and tired and dropped out of it. It is scary to make changes but I think it will be worth it.

[@taylorkurtz9749]

My husband is in sales. It’s so stressful! He also hates his job, but it provides for his family and he’s man enough to serve in that way, even if it’s hard. What a devastating blow. Dave…come on!

[@bookwarmthisweek1714]

I was the victim of office politics a few years ago. But I strived and survived. When you trust someone and they leave u under the bus (my case, especially, your own boss) and let you down, it feels like Dave described " feeling the stomach on the throat. No word can explain, just feel something stuck in the throat." I didn't have any similar story as his but I adore the word " stomach in the throat"🤣😂.

[@Greg_Chase]

This worker's comment "I feel like I've wasted the past 15 years of my life in this job" That sounds like depression. I've got family members in the health field and extended family members who suffer depression. Very few people will keep doing anything for 15 years if they dislike it. They usually change quickly (not 15 years). As an owner/operator or someone with direct reports, when you hear "I feel like I've wasted the past 15 years of my life in this job" it can be worthwhile to dig deeper because depression creates feelings like that. Loss of a loved one (a child? divorce? parent? etc) can be a shock to people. Or a health issue in a loved one, or a personal health issue. Waking up one day and telling anyone that "I've wasted 15 years of my life" - I'd have him talk to a health professional, bigtime. I would probe for a recent personal loss and then ask them to go speak to my pastor, and/or a psychologist or get them a referral to a psychiatrist. It could be a temporary thing. No one builds a 15 year career of success (he was a top performer) then tells someone "I've wasted 15 years of my life" Give the top performer a chance by setting them up with a professional for help first. .

[@mleezy930]

What you should do?…leave him alone as long as he performs

[@maxwellhill4754]

Offer a leave of absense, do not fire someone without cause

[@Rich-7021]

Your fired, it’s an act of love

[@adamcampbell7878]

Modern day pharasee. Ole Dave would have been a money changer at the temple

[@RandJ1996]

There is no emotion or feelings in business (love or whatever). And job is a job for a reason, you are doing something you don't want to do to get paid. Sure it's something within the ball park of what people like, but let's face it ANYTHING I have ever done that I love gets stale and old.

[@istvanpraha]

Manage him out over time, don't just fire him. I'm this dude but I will not say I wasted time. But you do hit the wall with certain jobs. And sometimes it's hard to switch jobs when you're working 50 hours a week + commute and under constant stress.

[@mikeanderson9478]

If he’s still the top performer he’s doing something right obviously if his attitudes a little down on his achievement level well that’s on him as long as he’s not bad mouthing the company or dragging others down: and why would he get let go for being your highest achiever in performance. Let’s start from the bottom down with the people who aren’t performing and get rid of them I’ll take a high performer any day that has a chance to change his attitude versus a non-performer that comes to work smiling every day not performing: start with working a four day week w him so he has a free day to go out and have adventure or to create new challenges for himself let alone having the weekends off with his family that might just change his attitude. Hell half America hates their job what do you just quit or get fired bad advice. Fire your top performer cause he’s not jumping up and down and loves his job- that’s hilarious:

[@porterosbournejr.5083]

I would find out why he feels that way. It may be because he doesn’t feel like he has any kind of ownership. If you can use more capital and have a plan for that capital offer him an equity position.

[@michaelcarter266]

I had to listen to at least the first 1min of this to make sure that this wasn’t about me.

[@fauxbro1983]

Is there any other role for the guy or maybe he can manage a sales team with the company.

[@the_expidition427]

A job is a job do your job do it well as that's whats expected from everyone

[@grapeape1968]

The question Dave should have asked is why he feels this way ? Also what is the company is there a different role he could move into?

[@jimperry4420]

It is a gut punch when someone like family leaves. My nephew worked for me for three years and quit because I disciplined him for his attendance.

[@navyseal4000]

As tough as that is, it's for the best. If he doesn't have the strength of character to face that small amount of scrutiny, he won't have the strength necessary to face real scrutiny.

[@adoe2305]

I'm sure there's more to the story, but you go ahead and put the blame on other people.

[@shadeekamendez1743]

*I love this guy on the ph. THAT IS WHAT A BOSS SHOULD SAY ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYEES. love. HE WANT'S BEST FOR HIS EMPLOYEE* *I LOVE THIS*

[@marshalltille7770]

DONT FIRE HIM.

[@cesarcalderon7042]

You are right layoffs is the first thing they do for the bottom line corporate America

[@TangomanX2008]

This is disturbing. Maybe the guy just needs a vacation or a little counseling.

[@Haldaemon]

How is it the employer’s business how an employee is feeling? Let him handle his own emotions. If he wants to leave he can leave. If he doesn’t, let him make that choice. This is such a massive overstep. Exactly why you never tell your employer what you’re feeling. It’s not a family. It’s a business.

[@DarrenJohn10X]

This hits me hard.

[@KyleSorenti]

6:18 pause 😂

[@pearlbubbles6885]

Dave, 😊you were wrong on this one😊

[@shitzgiggles6456]

You failed your employee to feel welcomed at a place of work. LEARN FROM IT! dont treat hard workers so terrible.. if your company is doing well encourage growth.. if you want loyalty from employees it goes both ways but in reality no ways.. just another number...

[@ChadCath]

I must be missing something… is no one asking this employee WHY he is upset?? All I heard was that he felt he has wasted 15 years and he’s down on himself… WHY does he feel like that? I have been in sales my whole professional life, and sometimes your top preformers get down on themselves because their rate of improvement slows down. When your first start, you’re learning and making adjustments and you see your sales numbers increase quickly if you are good at your job, which is very exciting. When you reach a certain threshold, however, you don’t see the same growth and it becomes more about sustaining because percentages always even out, which can be disheartening. This employee may be feeling unfulfilled, but no one is seeming to ask what would help him feel fulfilled? Would training and mentoring new salesmen for extra pay help? I honestly feel like this employee is a go-getter and just needs a new challenge in front of him. Or, you know, you could just fire your top performer the moment he says he’s unhappy.

[@sarabeckman4762]

Preach!

[@FedkaSlovanich]

Our top maintenance guy got cheated on and our plant fired him because he wasn’t talkative to corporate, hes the only guy that can keep the 170 million dollar machine running so for half a year we lost 500K a day in production due to it. we lost half of our contracts and corporate then decided to fire more maintenance to make payroll less. which lost us more money.

[@maxpendley4357]

Dave just bashed corporate American then went on to basically advise a nice way of doing what corporate America would have done. He’s basically telling him to fire the guy for lack of buy in and saying “it’s you, not me”. Also, it’s not up to the employer to decide what’s best for your employee.

[@the_expidition427]

Not working the team environment bullshit

[@tywebbcaddyshack]

Dave and this guy are wrong. This guy is a top performer. How do u fire him for being honest. He is still a top performer and still adding value. If he is not hurting the culture , leave him be. “Entre Leadership”….?

[@trevorcrozier3172]

everyone hates their job, not a reason to fire

[@irong105]

If he says he wasted 15 years of his life, he was expecting something that did not come to fruition

[@vaportrails7943]

Yep. That’s what I thought.

[@JacobsNews]

Dave skips that because he has done it to others. Most companies are built on lying to employees' false promises and then replacing them for less money

[@sarabeckman4762]

Yep! I’ve spent over ten years training to replace my boss and now that the succession plan time has come, they don’t want to pull the trigger and name me (or anyone else for that matter) so I 100% feel that I’ve wasted the last ten years. I’ll be moving on.

[@kevinsantos5050]

​@@sarabeckman4762 it is not wasted my friend you got to learn new skills thst will help you in your new job Its their lost

[@cubanito48]

People can have a bad day and say something they don’t mean or change their minds. You are gonna fire him because he hurted your feelings, lol. Another reason to never trust your employer. ✅

[@adoe2305]

I understand bad days. "I've wasted the last 15 years of my life in your company." Is a very meaningful comment. Doesn't sound like the employee came back later to explain, so he obviously means it. Yes. Don't trust that your employer won't let you go if you tell them to their face you've wasted your entire life with them. Sorry soyboy. You're not a helpless victim.

[@cubanito48]

@@adoe2305 sure buddy, bet you are a momma’s boy.

[@adoe2305]

@Planet of the Idiots It's sad you see exploitation everywhere you go ):

[@adoe2305]

@@cubanito48 I'm a mommas boy because I'm not a victim. Okayyyy buddy

[@ProCoach2373]

It's not unusual for a top salesperson to be unhappy, unfulfilled, and hate their job at times. Dave's got a bunch of them, he's just not aware. If he's still performing well and he's representing the company well, I don't see why he leaves unless he's impacting the culture. With them being close, I think that has to be a consideration. The guy is baring his chest. In 22 years in the real estate business, there were many many times I hated my job, but it didn't stop me from performing at a high level.

[@JerryStevens]

I agree. I was a salesperson, and then a sales manager, and then a general manager. I was miserable the entire time but I was able to support my family which was all I cared about. Fortunately, I never told anyone. I made, saved and invested enough to retire. I'm fine.

[@ProCoach2373]

@@JerryStevens Congrats Jerry! I've found something I really enjoy, now I just need to find a way to make some reasonable money at it! LOL It will come....

[@adoe2305]

@@JerryStevens Did you tell your boss you wasted the last 10 years of your life?

[@JerryStevens]

​@@adoe2305I've been retired for ten years, living comfortably on the money I made in a job I hated. I could have pursued personal happiness, to the detriment of my family, and we'd be living in poverty now. In my culture, taking care of family is a higher priority than pursuing pleasure in a job. I delayed gratification, and I'm glad I did. ​

[@adoe2305]

@Jerry Stevens it's not an either or bro. I guess.. You either make moves to improve your life or you don't, then pretend to be heroic and then bitch about it on youtube. Don't blame your unhappiness and laziness on your family bro. That's pathetic.

[@Jelly._.cat._.1]

Lessened learned for us workers. Keep your mouth shut and continue to look for another job while you work at the job that is making you miserable. Don’t tell management “I’m miserable here”🥴

[@vtvincent4893]

Why not? Bosses are great... Papa Dave will just take you out back if you tell him you're not completely happy!

[@adoe2305]

Lesson learned? Common fking sense. It was a cry for help

[@adoe2305]

@vtvincent how dumb are you that you think "I've wasted the last 10 years of my life" is the same as "I'm not completely happy."

[@dnycebushton5008]

ikr...shhh

[@ZBM-jj1xr]

Actually don't keep your mouth shut, but do communicate in a different way than this. If you're truly a top performer and you know your boss wants to retain you, then you can talk to your boss about this. Just don't do it in this way by presenting them with a problem and leaving it at that. It's much better to present it in a more positive way and with a solution, for instance: I've been noticing needing a new challenge in my work. I appreciate working here and I would like to make a difference in this way . That way you're not only presenting your boss with a solution instead of just a problem, but you're also guiding the situation to what you want. If it's about just not wanting to be there anymore in any position, then yes, your suggestion would be best. A lot of employers don't take kindly to being fired.

[@Dwights_trash_can]

This is nothing like "putting down a pet with cancer" that pet has no life after being put down. This man is about to lose his lively hood. Most people don't like their job but isn't Dave the same guy who tells ppl to work whatever job they can gain wealth?

[@michaelcarter266]

Yeah good point.

[@adoe2305]

So we continue giving a heroin addict heroin because he'll feel worse than death before he comes out the other side in a much better position?

[@adoe2305]

@@michaelcarter266 it's actually a terrible point. Enabling is not helpful.

[@Dwights_trash_can]

@A DOE the difference between a job and heroin is that you need one to live. Terrible analogy considering one will literally kill you. Bit extreme ya think?

[@treasurewuji8740]

I have no clue why not ask that person what the employer can do to help

[@loganthorp5327]

why would you fire him? makes no sense

[@austinthomas2732]

you’re firing someone who has not done anything wrong? In fact, he’s a high performer? You don’t think there is a reason he has stayed? When did employer start becoming parent to kicking him out the nest?

[@adoe2305]

He stayed because he's scared of risk and comfortably numb. The workplace is not a nest. I think it would be exploitation to not fire him. He expressed he's unhappy. He's crying for help. To ignore that and continue to profit off his unhappiness would be morally wrong. Imo

[@TheJpep2424]

The guy doesnt want to be there. If you care about your employee you help him do whatever makes him happy even if its letting him go.

[@vtvincent4893]

@@adoe2305 Wouldn't a better option be to figure out why he's unhappy and see if there's a better position or role in the company? Kinda seems like there should be a middle ground between letting him suffer and "taking him out back" as Dave suggested. :-/

[@adoe2305]

@vtvincent Not with comments as strong as I've wasted my life. No matter what you do for him, in 10 years, he'll say he wasted the last 10 years of his life, and now you're responsible because you didn't let him go. It'll be okay. Don't worry. If he's a top employee, he'll have no problem finding another job. We're not victims

[@Immigrantlovesamerica]

You are missing the point. His sadness gave his relationship with his work an expiration date. Either he leaves or he stays long enough to go from the best to the worst employee. Better to end it on a high note and motivate him in life, rather than let his sadness destroy their relationship.

[@tammyschilling5362]

Firing a top performer for being unhappy? So wrong. Leave him alone, mind your own business. Please, stop trying to help people, if this is what you think is help. You're not his mother. He's not a baby bird. You don't need to "push him out of the nest." He performs, you pay him. That's it.

[@brentayers3132]

Gotta disagree. I don’t love my job. I do it for the paycheck. But if I were him, I’d hit up the competitor and eat this company’s lunch. If I’m a high performer, I’m going to use that skill. Dave downs corporate America for layoffs, but he wants him to fire a dude who was honest and said he does it for the paycheck and just isn’t motivated to do something else. He didn’t say this guy was toxic, just that he had a private conversation where the guy was honest.

[@USMCAllTheWay]

You can always suggest, or even pay for a few counseling sessions just to confirm he's not dealing with a session of depression, etc. Especially with a top performer.

[@Trezker]

This resonates with me, I was the employee. It's not that I hated the job, but I was miserable. I could not adjust my mindset to start enjoying it and it just got worse over time. But I knew my boss would never fire me, I was a good employee and hard to replace. So eventually I pulled the trigger and let myself go.

[@frankcb11]

If you let him go. Give him good severance of put something good in front of him. Say you have 6 months, you will get a good high bonus at the end of it. He will train the next man up and you two both win.

[@supposedlycollectable4220]

If he has really helped your business and helped you make lots of money I think you should give him a full paid week off out of your account NOT his vacation time And tell him to relax spend time with his family and look for another job if thats what he wants to do. Tell him to let you know on Monday when he gets back if he still wants to work there. He's depressed about his life situation its not personal towards you. Its a feeling of trapped in the 9-5 He "Waisted his life" Because he gave it all to your company instead of building his own. As retirement gets closer he realizes how little he has to live on in the Future

[@SS-lg7hq]

Wow, this guy helped your company thrive for a long time as a top performer. One bad day and you want to strip him of his livelihood. That’s a bit harsh.

[@scaracci24]

That's not what's he's saying. He doesn't want to be the reason the guy hates getting up in the morning. The caller wants his friend to thrive and be fulfilled.

[@adoe2305]

Sounds like it's been 15 years of bad days...

[@adoe2305]

@@scaracci24 these people always find a reason to be a victim.

[@rnt45t1]

This is why you DO NOT talk to your manager, boss, or HR about hating your job. I think firing people is Dave's wet dream.

[@michaelcarter266]

Sometimes you let your real thoughts come out.

[@adoe2305]

Common sense. It was obviously a cry for help and wants to be fired. Probably doesn't want to quit so he can get severance. Relax dude

[@Spladoinkal]

Another thing to consider too, is once the employee HAS set his own date for leaving the company, be sure to give him some leniency so he's able to take days to interview without fear of repercussion.

[@austinduke8876]

"My high performing employee said it feels like he wasted the last 15 years of his life [working for me] and it felt like a gut punch." Dude said that with a straight face. Man spent the last 15 years making this caller bank and when it finally clicks for that guy that he wasted his time to enrich the caller the caller feels like it was a gut punch.....how narcissistic to you have to be to feel that way? I don't disagree with letting the guy go but damn man; feeling like you got hurt just because the pleasure of working for you doesn't cut it is some arrogance.

[@adoe2305]

Wow. /whoosh

[@taylorkurtz9749]

Terrible advice! Please don’t fire this poor man!

[@danpietila6555]

Majority of people hate their jobs the more i here ramseys advice the more i think he is an asshsat

[@cashway0420]

that was his way of asking for a raise, now he's getting fired lol

[@adoe2305]

What a terrible way to ask for a raise. Dave has other videos on how to ask for a raise. Hopefully, the guy comes across them so he won't make that mistake twice.

[@JacobsNews]

​@@adoe2305we don't know the context of the conversation because we're getting it from the boss who didn't even start the company he just took over his dad's company😂 I once asked for a raise, I was being underpaid for 2 years the boss took that as I hated my job and fired me a week later . I was so irreplaceable they called me for 6 months to come back, but I already had another job

[@johnwilliams1091]

Dave screwed this up.

[@waterbottle4782]

The employer should do two things before firing the job hater: a) ask him exactly what he and the company can do in order to get him to enjoy his job or b) is the job hater willing to just accept the job and suck it up in order to support himself and his family.

[@sfappetrupavelandrei]

I find so funny the beginning. Dave rants about corporate America is bad because it is not like this dude and immediately after, he tells him to fire him. 😂😂😂

[@ricardosmythe2548]

If hes been the companies top performer whos work has helped to allow the buisness owner to become set for life surley its owed to him to ask him if there is any other more senior position he would be happier in?

[@go5582]

Hi all, this is what i would do, i would increase his pay, increase his vacation time. I would recommend that the employee diversifies his savings into crypto buy XRP token. I would not leave my job.

[@anti-socialprogramming2203]

You're gonna fire this mans for having feelings? Lol wow

[@LAZERZ-OP]

Maybe Griffin is out of touch but most employees hate their job. I wouldn't have been honest if I was the employee because it puts a target on your back.

[@sgg17003]

It's good to keep a bridge open and reward the top performer by encouraging him to move on, and letting him know he's important to them.

[@treasurewuji8740]

It has never occurred to either of these two that asking if that person needs help first? Props for the employer for noticing it though

[@titolovely8237]

i mean you cant just fire someone without cause, and i find it insane that just because someone says they hate their job that means they should be let go?? even when theyre a top performer?!?!? lol wat? for sure he should have a sit down with the guy and talk about it. honestly the problem is probably just burnout. the guys been doing the same thing for 15 years, and is probably bored with it. extra pay generally doesnt help ameliorate this. what he likely needs is a new set of responsibilities to keep his job feeling demanding and fresh.

[@DanielRicany]

Perfect example of why you shouldn’t do your best at a job. Guy puts in 15 years of top performing work and gets thrown out into the street with nothing to catch because this employer is kicking him out before he is ready. Unbelievable.

[@Rich-7021]

Dave bashing corporate America then advises to do what corporate America does

[@richthepup]

The only thing that’s going to be hurt is your business because you refused to align with your key stakeholders. Now you go make the sales or find someone else to take your sucker deal.

[@adoe2305]

Please elaborate on "align with your key stakeholders" Sounds like your bitter and jealous from your own past experiences.

[@victorcelmare]

Ok boomer

[@bonehelm]

He has tenure, is a top performer, and you're going to fire him cause he's expressed his job sucks? Wtf? Maybe give him something to strive for? Create a special position which displays his performance to the world, like "senior sales rep". Recognize his performance in front of the company. Make him a team lead. Offer an even higher commission percent if he reaches a certain level. Give him a freakin goal to achieve meaning with, not fire him.

[@istvanpraha]

It's not just expressing it. 100% of the time it's endless drama and complaining. You can manage them out with severance, not just fire them. Everyone in the comments is acting like he made one little comment when it's most likely a series of events in addition to what he said.

[@markirvine8040]

I hope they are paying their 15 year long time top performing employee well. At anytime that 15 year employee could quit and go start his own company and be his old bosses competitors one day. Seen that numeous times over the years. So the boss may want to rethink his stand on this. Sounds like the 15 year long time employee may need a paid vacation.

[@jlr4434]

So, revenge?

[@loganbrantley7216]

This is horrible advise

[@bryanpaton4651]

So Dave’s thoughts were I love you too much to let you deteriorate, but not enough to help you heal. Oh and by the way, if the business was seasonal, Dave would take advantage of his high performance in the high sales season and fire him after. What’s happening for your employees at home? Do you love them enough to know?

[@anniehope8651]

This man might be suffering from depression and gets fired for being (mentally) ill, although he's still performing. This is corporate America at its finest. In many other countries this is highly illegal and immoral.

[@natedogg319]

I still don’t get where this myth came from that we should all be happy with our work. If you work in a field that you are truly passionate about everyone finds a reason not to pay you.

[@adoe2305]

There's a difference between not being happy, and feeling like you've wasted the last 15 years of your life ........

[@thezonemtb]

No discussion as to why he isn't happy. What could change to make it better? No opening up the discussion to what else may be going on with this guy's life? I hope this guy didn't take this STUPID advice.

[@dnycebushton5008]

15yrs...no where to go in the company...& the boss' feelings are hurt! Make it make sense...bawhahaha

[@fishman649]

Out culture is we fire you if you are sad

[@TempeSoldier123]

Or depressed or feeling unfulfilled.

[@mikeandreas6858]

I wonder if Dave looks back on this and regrets the way he responded. Aside from 99% of the comments here disagreeing with him entirely, I suspect Dave realizes he would have benefitted from taking a few more moments to think about the situation and to encourage the caller to ask the question as to "why" the guy was unhappy, at a deep level. It doesn't seem like a very Christian thing to do put someone on the street without showing him love by helping the guy work through any issues. I know this is unheard of in corporate America but if Dave is going to tout the benefits of a family run business, this extra effort in helping the employee should be one of them. I get the impression that if an employee (within Ramsey for example) in unhappy, even if he/she is a great performer, that Dave takes it personally as something Dave did wrong, thus the move to off-ramp. I really hope the caller didn't follow Dave's advice, certainly not without making an extra (loving) effort.

[@Astral100]

You are missing the point. The salesperson is weak, and needs the decision to be done for him. It is actually a good thing for salesperson to be switching jobs after 15 years.

[@keazy1983]

That's why you should never tell your boss about your personal feelings.

[@adoe2305]

Atleast if it's I've wasted the last 15 years of my life on you. Common sense

[@CalebAstle]

Is the Ribs in the Applebee's commercial that makes Dave cry? Or that clean B roll of the wings?

[@cashway0420]

Dave keeps his headset on when he goes to Apple Bees

[@TeKnoVKNG23]

Maybe talk to him and figure out what he needs to motivate him or what he's looking for to make him happier? Odd you would go right to firing him without even trying to figure out why. You're not a good leader or boss at all, lol. A good boss would do his best to find out what is bothering his top guy and figure out a way to make it work out before going to the nuclear option. This is also a good reminder of why you should keep your mouth shut at work as an employee.

[@mr.lad-detailingtricksntip]

Those Applebees commercials are something else man

[@rosec8101]

The employee should have went to his boss and explained how he felt. Asked for a new opportunity in the company. Even asking to sales once or twice a week during transition.

[@carolcole570]

I disagree with Dave. The boss would have never known that his employee was miserable except for the fact that he told Griffin. If he had not told Griffin, as far as Griffin is concerned, the guy is a top performer, always at work, and on time. I believe that Griffin should have lent his shoulder to him, but after that…….it is up to the man himself to make his own decision. If he is afraid, go take an assertiveness course. But, never ever ever should his boss straight out fire him…..just to FORCE him into leaving. Dave put Griffin into the place of being this man’s Mother. He will not have learned anything by being fired. And LEARNING and DOING is what it is all about.

[@ericallen371]

This show is fascinating to me as someone who is transferring from worker bee to owner.

[@adoe2305]

You can tell who in the comment section ran a business and have had employees, and who hasn't.

[@dustinadair7893]

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[@lilsamantha1]

Wow the most straight up ish ive ever heard