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@ToastAndDonut3 жыл бұрын
I will join your discord soon
@SnoppleWopple3 жыл бұрын
pog
@kingoftanks16823 жыл бұрын
I have a question I live in Australia so valve doesn't sell the index or controllers I have the vive wands and I want to get valve index controllers if I was to get the index controllers imported from another country would I run into faults with the index controllers within a year of use. Also would you recommend the controllers in my case
@calvire83953 жыл бұрын
Yo, look into getting a split loom thread wire cover, it's like $10 and takes the brunt of the ware and tear off the cable, I've had my index for 8 months and besides a little dust my cable is still in pristine condition
@TommyVercettisGamingNews3 жыл бұрын
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@VadiumMusic3 жыл бұрын
I lost count of the amount of times he said "valve did replace it though"
@CakePrincessCelestia3 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time he does :D
@shawnedin36543 жыл бұрын
i like how he thinks they pay to fix everyone else index and they are hemorrhaging money due to it . when the reality is they know who he is and makes sure they cover it and everyone else can fuck off or pay
@VadiumMusic3 жыл бұрын
@@CakePrincessCelestia that my friend. Would be illegal
@TV-sm4mb3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnedin3654 I fucked my headset up by accidently releasing it to the sunlight for some time. They replaced it after I sent them a picture.
@BlackMesaEmployee3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnedin3654 no lol
@joshbrooks28273 жыл бұрын
This man won't stop until he has used up valves entire stock of headsets
@multiumbreon73 жыл бұрын
What stock?
@joshbrooks28273 жыл бұрын
@@multiumbreon7 that's a good point
@Markok19113 жыл бұрын
Now we know why there's no index stock, they send them as replacements to users who already bought one.. :P
@digitalstyx_est.20183 жыл бұрын
Well yeah because the truth is there is no other headset worth using nearly as much.
@joshbrooks28273 жыл бұрын
@@digitalstyx_est.2018 I have spent a good few hundred hours on a quest 1 it's not as good but perfectly usable for a long time
@atomicozzy89103 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've heard someone say 'valve indexes'.
@cookiecan103 жыл бұрын
You could probably technically call them 'valve indices' too
@outwit7963 жыл бұрын
@@cookiecan10 yes
@Nav4ro3 жыл бұрын
I think he's had multiple headsets
@epion333 жыл бұрын
Me with my quest 1 👁👄👁💦
@nathanupton9613 жыл бұрын
Im Getting the Quest 2
@musicdanielcockerill66873 жыл бұрын
Thrill “I use a pulley system” Seeker
@Professor_Bugs3 жыл бұрын
Music Daniel "I watch Joe Rogan" Cockerill
@kylefischer30133 жыл бұрын
@@Professor_Bugs I'd make fun of your name to keep this thread going, but i think you beat me to it
@Professor_Bugs3 жыл бұрын
@@kylefischer3013 Kyle "My name sounds like i work on a boat" Fischer.
@promonto3 жыл бұрын
creepy fact: At the exact time i read this comment he said in the video "I use a polly system" at 7:36
@sortabl3 жыл бұрын
And removed the fan
@Reper19833 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for "I used my Valve Index for one decade"
@JW-um5pg3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that'll never happen.
@jackman72863 жыл бұрын
This guy needs a girlfriend
@_robertas3 жыл бұрын
@@jackman7286 he will show her handstands and tell her i can do this in vr, while thinking plz dont break, while also anxiety kills him
@outwit7963 жыл бұрын
@@jackman7286 No one needs a girlfriend
@nuyo65693 жыл бұрын
@@outwit796 "needs" is hyperbole lol u need to chill. plus it's a random opinion u dont gotta stress over it
@captorraptor85773 жыл бұрын
They've added a second cable clip with newer models so that the first one wouldn't break.
@colie5773 жыл бұрын
Yeah, mine has two. I also reinforced both with cable ties, don't use a pully system, and have a clip on the cable that attaches to my belt so there's never any opportunity for strain on the headset. As long as you take care of your headset, there shouldn't most of these issues.
@matrading16773 жыл бұрын
May i see photo how they make it ?
@dergeneralfluff3 жыл бұрын
I got that second one at the back of the headset to break of for no real reason. I don't use a pully system, using a cable tie there now to hold it in place for comfort reasons, did not think this was a new addition as you otherwise get the cable to lay on your shoulder instead of running down your back (which the prior is rather annoying) About 3 months, 600-800h I guess, based on my nearly 2k hours in steam vr, and having broken the 1k still with the WMR.
@Alabud13 жыл бұрын
Already broke one of them lmfao
@sgas3 жыл бұрын
No way dude, where is it
@calebozley31023 жыл бұрын
This guy is gonna put valve out of business lmao
@sh4rksh4d0vv3 жыл бұрын
Valve is first and foremost a software company
@dashw3 жыл бұрын
@@sh4rksh4d0vv congrats! you missed the joke!
@yeboyecam84803 жыл бұрын
@@sh4rksh4d0vv woooosh
@steve_ire3213 жыл бұрын
And they'd deserve it for releasing expensive, shoddy made products. Leave it to proper hardware-producing companies in the future.
@repulsivegel36403 жыл бұрын
@@steve_ire321 I feel they make up for it in customer service.
@JW-um5pg3 жыл бұрын
I hope Valve watches your videos and takes it into consideration for the their next headset. None of this should be an issue for a $1000 headset.
@Burger199853 жыл бұрын
not many users fail handstands valve probs expected the headset to stay firmly away from the ground lol
@Wangan_W3 жыл бұрын
Na this is the extreme, the guy is pushing it to its limits.
@clientornaka4690 Жыл бұрын
@@Burger19985 Then you don't play VRChat. I know a ton of retards who fail handstands and fall on their asses while doing backflips lol
@papabones87533 жыл бұрын
I'm treating mine really, really well, still works nicely.
@JTF063 жыл бұрын
Ok, didnt ask
@papabones87533 жыл бұрын
@@JTF06 Ok, didn't ask you either. Buzz off.
@her08803 жыл бұрын
How long have you had it?
@papabones87533 жыл бұрын
@@her0880 Couple months. Nowhere near as used as 1k hours but still used a lot. I've only ever had issues with tracking and that was my own fault for not having the tracking stations at the right spot(I noticed after around 50 hours of play, fixed that and now it works pretty well).
@Lemonzify3 жыл бұрын
Shoulda spent 2000 hours breakdancing with your headset smh
@ephermerallyght5645 Жыл бұрын
Dude I got Index like 2 days ago, you're scaring me man.. I'm not even violent with my headset and I take it slow.. It's good that I saw this video first hand, tells me what to not put stress on too much
@TyTheTurtle3 жыл бұрын
Quick Reminder: despite the problems remember that he spends A LOT more time on the index than most people probably will for a long time. So while some things like the first cable failure and some of the early issues are a good point to look at, not all the problems will likely happen unless you're putting in hours and hours almost every day every week and putting stress on these objects more than the normal Index user.
@benkahn50633 жыл бұрын
I think it's a lot less the actual time he spends, it's the way he uses all the stuff. He's incredibly a violent with his headset. I'm not saying that using it like that should have these issues though, besides doing handstands which he has broken more than one index with.
@schoolhomevrtechnologyassi62863 жыл бұрын
@@benkahn5063 He does it all, so we don't have to!!!
@caseyhall23203 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is a good point. But personally, I'll be a very happy gamer once the Steam VR headset and it's equipment gets as durable as the Quest 2 and it's equipment. And durable enough that you could use it for as many hours of the day as a "hardcore gamer" would on their computer.
@benkahn50633 жыл бұрын
@@Gungamer32 that is the opposite of my experience with them
@gibgun3 жыл бұрын
So quick reminder for what he says on the video? Thanks
@apples30363 жыл бұрын
“I’m on my fourth index, my fifth controller, and my second base station.” I only have a quest. Not even quest 2, just quest. No PC, just quest
@itsgarytime27683 жыл бұрын
I only have psvr
@apples30363 жыл бұрын
I don’t even have PS4
@zakarypalacios76873 жыл бұрын
I only have a refurbished Windows MR headset
@owennelson643 жыл бұрын
@@apples3036 I don't have a playstation, xbox, or switch bro lol
@skkthegreat3 жыл бұрын
“just quest” i feel ya
@gamzeelmao11573 жыл бұрын
2022... “What Happened to my Valve Index After 3000 Hours”
@Andiramon3 жыл бұрын
gamzee pfp hi
@SnoppleWopple3 жыл бұрын
No shit
@gamzeelmao11573 жыл бұрын
@@Andiramon hi! (╹◡╹)
@LankyOwen3 жыл бұрын
Possibly
@Atrello3 жыл бұрын
More like march 2021
@crungler3 жыл бұрын
"what happened to my index after the heat death of the universe?"
@WisKy64VT3 жыл бұрын
Ive had mine for a few weeks and have been loving it
@darkserpent_bs70963 жыл бұрын
Same!
@Multinator3 жыл бұрын
I love the controller they are just sooo good.
@boost243 жыл бұрын
give it to me this is a robbery so you’re illegally forced to give it to me
@king_aeron3 жыл бұрын
@Sarcastic the best use ofc
@darkserpent_bs70963 жыл бұрын
@@boost24 oh god, I would never go against the law! take it take it all
@tesnkid823 жыл бұрын
valve: we finally released a new wave of headsets Thrill: ill take your entire stock
@-book3 жыл бұрын
I hope more thought will be put headsets’ durability in the future It must be really disappointing when the headset breaks, especially if you can’t get the part replaced
@minifishy71623 жыл бұрын
The quest 2 is great with durability- but I don't think amazing with quality control. Regardless, durability is top notch
@lau64383 жыл бұрын
@@minifishy7162 You can literally throw your controllers across the room, and it would be alright.
@minifishy71623 жыл бұрын
@@lau6438 yea, ik its great!
@lau64383 жыл бұрын
@@minifishy7162 Not that it's a function that gets used often (i hope😬)
@Zamn_daniel3 жыл бұрын
@@lau6438 unless if you throw it so f#cking hard the rings might break
@ninjaboy1913 жыл бұрын
I've spent 3-6 hours in vr a week since November 2019 and my index is still going strong! Even if it had issues I still don't see headsets with refresh rates and fov on par with the index. Plus the big brother facebook quest ecosystem is creepy.
@oculusquest24602 жыл бұрын
3-6 hrs a week?? Absolute rookie numbers.
@katekreamelmeyer99512 жыл бұрын
People do that a day and more. Lol
@alakazamo60973 жыл бұрын
Valve index: And I Took That Personally...
@gravity_mxk56633 жыл бұрын
ThrillSeeker: OMG my valve index keeps breaking!!! Also ThrillSeeker: 🤸🏼♂️ Lol
@invertedv12powerhouse773 жыл бұрын
Yeah, most people I've met have maybe went through one controller from smacking it hard against the wall or a new wire. I think he has himself to blame for the insane amount of failures lol.
@blackjack51673 жыл бұрын
@@invertedv12powerhouse77 how so was he like doing cartwheels while dancing?
@blackjack51673 жыл бұрын
@@invertedv12powerhouse77 never mind he was doing fucking handstands wtf??
@mashy7123 жыл бұрын
It’s still his baby. When his rift s broke once. He hated it and wanted it to go to hell lol.
@Spideryote3 жыл бұрын
No. I refuse to have that high pitch buzzing in my ear 24/7 from the base stations being on when I'm not using them Like if I can imagine what tinnitus is like; this is it Edit: if he's not talking about putting them in sleep mode then I'm dumb. In sleep mode I don't hear them at all. But leaving them fully active 24/7 like they were out of the box is absolutely not happening
@user-js1mf7gg8t3 жыл бұрын
@@JanyaAndromedaGalactic average person wastes over 1000 dollars a year on food. Its not being rich, its being smart with your money
@zyvics3 жыл бұрын
they shouldn't be buzzing? I have 1.0's that I barely cut off since Dec 2016, never heard them buzz, never had any issues with them.
@WhyIsEverythingTaken3 жыл бұрын
god i'm so jealous of people who don't have tinnitus
@cuptainreese3 жыл бұрын
@@WhyIsEverythingTaken You and me both.. It especially has gotten worse last month or so, and I can't call for an appointment even if I could afford to..
@TheMauwMa3 жыл бұрын
You can put them in to sleep mode. It won't buzzing at all
@ampinghard1113 жыл бұрын
Boy is the VR community lucky to have a dude like thrill making content. The comparison to a car startup while also clarifying that it's not a confirmed 1 to 1 comparison, sums up how insightful the homie is while style having integrity. Props to the homie.
@weebsters71813 жыл бұрын
Personally, I have had my valve index for a year, used it for 4057 hours of VR, and only ever had to replace my headset cable once, and my left controller once
@jackiecs81903 жыл бұрын
Damn dude, full-time job is only 2000 hours a year, you've been going hard!
@theeclipsemaster2 жыл бұрын
@@jackiecs8190 maybe he worked in it
@Gizmos_and_stuff2 жыл бұрын
that's an average of 11 hours a day, i fell like you may have no life, or are lying
@theeclipsemaster2 жыл бұрын
@@Gizmos_and_stuff most of us vr people have no life
@zergling26212 жыл бұрын
@@Gizmos_and_stuff says the minecraft profile picture
@World_Theory3 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea for preserving the cable on the Index… There's a type of plastic tubing used for cable management of computer desks. This tubing has a repeating rib structure, similar to an accordion, that allows it to be more flexible. The tubing is also slit open on one side along its entire length, which allows you to insert cables from the side, rather than feeding them into the tube to be pulled all along the length. I think that putting your headset cable(s) inside this kind of tubing, and anchoring the tubing to the headset (and the pulley system if you have one) instead of the cable itself, would take a lot of stress off the cable. Ideally though, I think it would be be good if the cable itself had a spring shape for about a third of a meter, or one foot, right at the end where it plugs into the headset. The same kind of spring shape seen on the cords for corded telephones, and small radio transmitters to connect the microphone to the rest of the equipment. These spring shapes are better suited to being moved around a lot, and even twisted. Because they can be twisted with much less stress, I think they would be a great choice for relieving mechanical stress right where it's needed most: close to the plug, where it must match the rotation and position of the headset cable socket exactly. For the remaining length of the cable, it can be the normal, straight shape, which should be anchored by a clip if the cable is deemed strong enough on its own, or encased in plastic tubing if it's not strong enough on its own, with the tubing being anchored to the headset instead of the cable. I think this could be done without having to replace the entire current stock of cables, by using a simple, short cable extension on the end of the current cables, which has the desired spring shape. If someone wants to let Valve know about this, be my guest! I'd rather stop everyone suffering than horde the idea to myself in the vain hope of wringing money out of it somehow. They can have the idea for free. Maybe it will encourage them to keep improving their hardware when they don't have to constantly send out replacements.
@BlatantlySwedishPGN3 жыл бұрын
Definitely gonna be interesting to see what you have you to show us! This is certainly a "true" representation of the durability, more than any torture test can ever be. Thanks for all the great content!
@ererbe3 жыл бұрын
My wall speaks in pain of my knuckle controllers, im my first 4 wekks of vr i punched my wall like 7 times. controllers still fine and now its nearly a year
@theresachacon11223 жыл бұрын
@@ererbe I got a quest 2 a couple of weeks ago and I can relate when it comes to hitting my wall with the controllers but those things are durable af.
@ererbe3 жыл бұрын
@@theresachacon1122 more durable than My Finger.. i have to say that im playing on 2x2m
@BlatantlySwedishPGN3 жыл бұрын
@@ererbe That's gonna be a yikes from me. Maybe get a bigger space to play in? lol
@ererbe3 жыл бұрын
@@BlatantlySwedishPGN My room is 11,5m². And the width ist 2m. Also i now have no problems with it and feel Like its definitly enough
@snoopyslr3 жыл бұрын
Well, now I know why I've been waiting for my Index to become available for 6 months and counting… This dude is getting them all.
@maxiball Жыл бұрын
So, have you gotten it yet?
@EpinephrinepenАй бұрын
@@maxiball probs not
@CplShephard13 жыл бұрын
Valve: How many Indexes do you want to test? ThrillSeeker: Yes
@decompilation3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that sees a “read more” option on your comment and then when I click it there’s nothing?
@sdmlol65533 жыл бұрын
@@decompilation me too
@decompilation3 жыл бұрын
@@sdrawkcabmiay I’m on an iPhone X, but not I don’t see it anymore, I’m so confused. Guess it was just a bug 🤷♂️
@pokerboy43953 жыл бұрын
Gman: Corpral shephard we meet at last "Helicopter noises"
@Krankenstein1053 жыл бұрын
480hours behind with my Valve Index and no breakage of cable here or any other problems. (Knocks on wood). I do use a pulley system but I am rather cautious with my equipment. However I did fling my right controller once across the room during a very intense Beat Saber session but it didn't break. Guess I dropped it "the right way". ;P I definitely power down my base stations. The high pitch noise (not very loud, but noticeable) they make is unbearable when you go to sleep and the house is quiet.
@bogeyboiplays45802 жыл бұрын
do the base stations wear out at all?
@onetrueone3 жыл бұрын
I believe it is just Thrillseeker being a KZbinr and also him brutally abusing it.
@benkahn50633 жыл бұрын
I have no clue what he does to his headset, I have nearly 800 hours in the index and the only issue that I've had was completely my fault, being a ripped out thumb stick that i caused which valve replaced for free
@freezer813 жыл бұрын
I mean he does stuff like failing handstands in vrchat, his headset sustains quite a bit of abuse
@andi3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it really also depends on how you treat it, he’s really more of a hardcore user
@johnekopy3 жыл бұрын
Was going to say the same, hundreds of hours on my headset, it looks brand new. I went through one controller they replaced for free.
@Burger199853 жыл бұрын
@@andi he treats his 1000$ headset like it kicked his cat and ate the last slice of pizza lmao
@caseyhall23203 жыл бұрын
Thank god. His review had me leaning away from the Index for a future purchase, haha.
@typhoontav53613 жыл бұрын
The sequel I wasn't expecting, but I'm glad happened. Also, finally got my quest an holy moly it's fun. I have always been an enthusiast in vr and now I'm spreading the fun with family and friends.
@Serlith3 жыл бұрын
I would keep the base stations on, but their whirring is so damn anoying.
@KiegKillsReality3 жыл бұрын
Idk why yours is so loud cuz I barely hear mine. I legit can only hear them if I am underneath them.
@NintyBuzz3 жыл бұрын
Same here... plus my Index is set up in my bedroom
@Krankenstein1053 жыл бұрын
@@KiegKillsReality Either your base stations are somehow quieter or your high frequency hearing is diminished. I've heard people have quiet base stations but all three of mine are "whiny"
@overthinking35733 жыл бұрын
@@Krankenstein105 if you're ballsy enough, pop them open and relubricate the moving parts.
@KiegKillsReality3 жыл бұрын
@@Krankenstein105 I’m 17 so my hearing isn’t gone yet lmao. I mean maybe the difference between me and other people is that I hear the whine but I just don’t care. Like I can deal with it, you know? Idk dude. Or maybe my base stations came faulty or something. Who knows.
@sultanofsick13 күн бұрын
One thing Valve did do to stop hemorrhaging RMA money is draw a hard line with the warranty at 1 year. It sounded like they gave you replacements more than a year out unless I misunderstood the times you were saying. I can confirm basically everything in this video. The cover on one of my speakers also popped off. Mostly cosmetic, but it was providing SOME structure and now the speaker tilts in a little more and sometimes brushes my ear. One instance of audio cutout that I had forgotten until watching this, solved by re-screwing it and never happened again. Left thumbstick (used for movement in most games, I clicked it a LOT in Pavlov) lasted about 2 years for me before it got loose and drifted. I looked up a repair video here on youtube and soldered on a new potentiometer successfully, but broke the grip sensor in the process (dropped the stupid strap adjustment spring down INTO the controller, having to break it all the way open, broke the ribbon cable connector on the mainboard). I also had the cable clip break, after I removed the plastic loop holding the cable that resulted in that nasty fraying/pinching. Those two combined killed the cable, and I scratched the lenses while trying to follow valve's troubleshooting, which is the one warranty replacement I got at, 9 months or so? When I contacted them again for scratches on the lens again, the first thing they asked for was serial number to verify warranty, and immediately said there was nothing they could do, including paid repairs, when it was > 1 year. Hell I can't even buy a single controller or just the half of the cord that I actually need, has to be the whole set for $270 or $120 respectively. I swear I'm not a shill or affiliated in any way, but I HIGHLY recommend Vr-wire for pulley system. It allows much more freedom of movement (actual pulleys on a track) and puts less stress on the cable, although it is still more than not using pulleys at all. Much less tug than the series of fixed retractors also. And they also have a nice silicone cable guide to serve the purpose of the zip tie in the video, but soft and won't fray the cable at all. Also using that VRcover (or whatever brand) cloth backstrap cover, and routing the cable through that first small run now instead of using that plastic clip that damages the cord.
@knowledge_leaf3 жыл бұрын
The Quest 2 has it's issues, but you gotta admit; *that thing durable*
@AstralPhnx2 жыл бұрын
Oh absolutely. Biggest thing with the Quest 2 is it's second gen quest hardware and it's god knows how many gen oculus hardware. Oculus has had A LOT of experience making headsets so in general they have a good idea of how to make a durable headset because of experience. Meanwhile the Index is Valve's first foray into VR and uhh.... It shows. It's great hardware but it ABSOLUTELY suffers from the "first generation hardware curse" and all the jank that entails
@DeadlySinner973 жыл бұрын
Okay QOTW: With amount of times you must have contacted them, how would you rate Valve's Customer Support in regards to the Index?
@lennytrick8213 жыл бұрын
I've only had to RMA one controller, and the people at valve were cool. I just contacted support, they asked what was wrong, and asked me to verify in the controller test thing that the left thumbstick would not work, and they gave me a shipping label to send the old one out, and at the same time they sent a new one. It only took about a few days, and I was back to playing games. Like thrill said it sucks that these problems exist, but valve does stand by their products by giving free RMAs as long as you're still in warranty.
@Burger199853 жыл бұрын
@@lennytrick821 valve support are such nice people huh no questions asked and they send a replacement
@andrewster61083 жыл бұрын
My experience was rather nice. I just submitted a help ticket for my issue, they ask for some form of verification, they give me shipping instructions, then all the sudden I have a new HMD
@nickpadgen24903 жыл бұрын
They're literally amazing. The fact that they've rmad his trash every time he breaks it should be a testimony to their support.
@digitalstyx_est.20183 жыл бұрын
I'm on my 3rd RMA that is being done three months out of warranty. I absolutely cannot complain. My first RMA was for a left Thumbstick...and a year later I have had no problems whatsoever with the new controller or my original right controller. My HMD issues have been relatively minor but still not something I'm happy to endure for the cost of the headset. Valve agrees I shouldn't have to, and they have taken care of me without any hassles whatsoever.
@brotatochip83963 жыл бұрын
The index seems so fragile compared to everything else, I’ve seen my friend throw his quest 1 into the wall 2 separate times when he gets mad, and it’s fine. I’m not saying you should throw your headset and that abuse isn’t bad, but still
@BsicalyLucifer3 жыл бұрын
ive dropped my index controllers knocked over my base stations and droppes my headset all on accident no orange lights not scratches tracking still works fine and everything results may vary tho
@brotatochip83963 жыл бұрын
@@BsicalyLucifer That’s great to hear, I don’t have an index it’s just from what I’ve heard from other people, but I guess I’ve been underestimating how durable it is
@Jonathan-ks6qc3 жыл бұрын
Yea agreed I don’t really rage but I dropped my quest controller a couple of and it’s perfectly fine
@BsicalyLucifer3 жыл бұрын
@@brotatochip8396 well like i said results may vary from my experience its been pretty strong
@TyTheTurtle3 жыл бұрын
I've hit my knuckles against my wall a few times because I got a bit too immersed and they still work perfectly fine. Thrill just goes a bit too hard on his equipment
@ToddLarsen3 жыл бұрын
I've came across my very first Valve Index issue and it's my left thumb stick drifting backwards if you press it to the rear at all it will make you walk in reverse, my solution was to just press forward very quickly after going backwards, I'm hoping it doesn't get much worse. I still love and enjoy the headset and bay stations with no issues there. Thanks for sharing and as always keep building👍
@z3ntropy3 жыл бұрын
I'd let my stations run all the time if they weren't so... Audible
@waterflame3213 жыл бұрын
Put sound proof boxes over them :p
@underflip23 жыл бұрын
I hear so many people say this. I have very good hearing and I have 4 of them on all the time and i never think about them
@Nimbkoll3 жыл бұрын
@@underflip2 maybe yours are quieter than most, or your hearing is worse than you thought.
@waterflame3213 жыл бұрын
@@underflip2 how old are you? The frequency they admit might be out of your hearable range? My set also run 24/7 with no hum issue
@hellterminator3 жыл бұрын
@@underflip2 Then your hearing isn't as good as you think.
@Arnide3 жыл бұрын
ive had my index for only a little bit shy of 2 months and while it still works just as good now as it has on day one, watching these videos stress me out LMAO i wanna keep this thing working for as long as possible
@LiamH18083 жыл бұрын
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey There lived a certain man in Russia long ago He was big and strong, in his eyes a flaming glow Most people looked at him with terror and with fear But to Moscow chicks he was such a lovely dear He could preach the Bible like a preacher Full of ecstasy and fire But he also was the kind of teacher Women would desire Ra ra Rasputin Lover of the Russian queen There was a cat that really was gone Ra ra Rasputin Russia's greatest love machine It was a shame how he carried on He ruled the Russian land and never mind the Czar But the kazachok he danced really wunderbar In all affairs of state he was the man to please But he was real great when he had a girl to squeeze For the queen he was no wheeler dealer Though she'd heard the things he'd done She believed he was a holy healer Who would heal her son Ra ra Rasputin Lover of the Russian queen There was a cat that really was gone Ra ra Rasputin Russia's greatest love machine It was a shame how he carried on But when his drinking and lusting And his hunger for power Became known to more and more people The demands to do something About this outrageous man Became louder and louder Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey "This man's just got to go", declared his enemies But the ladies begged, "Don't you try to do it, please" No doubt this Rasputin had lots of hidden charms Though he was a brute, they just fell into his arms Then one night some men of higher standing Set a trap, they're not to blame "Come to visit us", they kept demanding And he really came Ra ra Rasputin Lover of the Russian queen They put some poison into his wine Ra ra Rasputin Russia's greatest love machine He drank it all and said, "I feel fine" Ra ra Rasputin Lover of the Russian queen They didn't quit, they wanted his head Ra ra Rasputin Russia's greatest love machine And so they shot him 'til he was dead Oh, those Russians
@ELGG18943 жыл бұрын
I used to rule the world Chunks would load when I gave the word Now every night I go stow away Hide from the mobs I used to slay They once were terrified Every time I looked into their eyes Villagers would cheer my way For a hero I was, that's what they'd say One minute we had it all Next our world began to fall Away from all that it had once become They all cried for my help, but I stood there numb I gaze off into the boundless skyline Noteblock choirs playing in the sunshine Turn 'round pick up my sword and wield The blade that once forced evil mobs to yield And hope one day that this chaos and Destruction turns for the better Never a bow in hand That was when I ruled the land It was the creepers and Skeletons Blew down the doors and boxed us in Arrows whizzing by like streaks of light I tried all that I could to stay and fight As the undead roamed the street Families broken at my feet Life itself suspended by a thread Oh, why is it that I wasn't dead I gaze off into the boundless skyline Noteblock choirs playing in the sunshine Turn 'round pick up my sword and wield The blade that once forced evil mobs to yield If this battle should leave me slain I know Herobrine will call my name Better to take a stand That was when I ruled the land I gaze off into the boundless skyline Noteblock choirs playing in the sunshine Turn 'round pick up my sword and wield The blade that once forced evil mobs to yield If this battle should leave me slain I know Herobrine will call my name Better to take a stand That was when I ruled the land
@alexpiggy3 жыл бұрын
I've been using my Rift S for a very long time (around its release) and it's been surprisingly good. I really haven't had any issues with mine, though I also don't use it daily. EDIT: yeah, i can confirm that the controllers oculus makes are very sturdy compared to some of the other controllers i've seen and used
@JTF063 жыл бұрын
no one cares
@clumpus20123 жыл бұрын
@@JTF06 oh look at this big man going around being a dick for no reason
@alexpiggy3 жыл бұрын
@@JTF06 this man owns a PSVR and thinks it's the best headset around
@ianwagner36033 жыл бұрын
@@alexpiggy he probably doesn’t own VR at all. (Psvr is actually pretty good but the quest 2 is so much better now)
@johnsmithers2843 жыл бұрын
Based jonas making children seethe
@ajk-20243 жыл бұрын
I just ordered my valve index 2 days before you made this video.
@LordSanDisk3 жыл бұрын
"This is not OK" 5 seconds later "I do admit I'm rough with my headsets" Fucking melt.
@azerik923 жыл бұрын
And this is why I use the included wrist straps even though the Index controllers strap onto your hand directly. I never want these to drop. Even if the plastic holding the triggers in wasn't as fragile as they are, the nature of capacitive sensors for the finger tracking means that aspect of the controller was always bound to be fragile.
@jakeraines80463 жыл бұрын
Huh hearing this makes me feel lucky. I've had mine since early december 2019 and it still works fine. The only problems I have with it are the cord constantly turning into a noose and the trigger on my right hand remote started making a squeaking sound about a month into owning it but it still works perfectly.
@FoxGaming32 жыл бұрын
pulley system for the cable and clean the thumb stick slot
@scottjacobson66193 жыл бұрын
i have to admit I've been a lucky one. I've only had to replace one controller from stick drift and i had the stars problem once but rebooted my computer and it was fixed. Hearing your multiple horror stories reminds me that, even if i love this thing, I shouldn't fully praise it like i want to, it has it's cons.
@XavianJohnson3 жыл бұрын
Pro Tip: Use the touchpad. I've had my index controllers since December 2019 and have no issues with them since the transition to Touchpad movement. I also do not use pully system and just use Turn Signal for cable management. Been running my Pimax 8kx for 6 months with no issues thus far. Lastly, I have carpeting in my VR play space, helps for comfort since I play barefooted and prevents fatal controller drops.
@Makarov69203 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my index for 2 years and it still hasn’t failed me.
@lyonsdwyer53733 жыл бұрын
Really useful video. Also love the “Thrillseeker” at the end of the outro
@underflip23 жыл бұрын
Had my index from the release and have also logged over 2000 hours and nothing have failed for me. You go extremely hard on your headset my dude :-p
@wrongsuitnotie84273 жыл бұрын
I can feel the frustration in his voice when he talks about the inconviniences
@aquakat34003 жыл бұрын
just got my oculus quest 2 i’ve been watching u for a while u inspired me to get my quest thanks
@SkyF3ar3 жыл бұрын
Tip for Index users: Consider magnetic USB-C cables to charge the knuckles. Puts minimal stress on the connector that will snap into place. I have had the port break previously and was unable to recharge them.
@thepurespartanify3 жыл бұрын
This man literally break dances in VR just FYI Ive hit my wall and the HMD numerous times playing Thrill of the fight and I have cracked 1 controller after a genuine countless number of times. The controller actually retained full functionality but I RMAed it anyway. Consider as well I do real boxing so Im providing a full force punch and yet still not doing this kind of damage to my index. Ive truly never seen anyone break an index more than this guy
@80xdplays883 жыл бұрын
the BEST SERIES ON KZbin is back
@ReikoTennosaar2 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of damage ;D, glad that Valve replaces failed devices :). Thanks Gaben!
@TheAndreasMustola3 жыл бұрын
Tips is to put on the wrist straps and then put on the headset (avoid drops). The motor in the base stations are sensitive to heat, so I let my four 2.0 base stations power down (green light to blue light). Wait some seconds and then cut the power so they can cool down. But I only had them running for 9 months, will report back when more time has passed. I also wipe the controllers and headset after each use with a dry and smooth towel to remove sweat and oil that comes from your hands. As oil cause damage to plastic over time.
@Ivee. Жыл бұрын
Update me!
@TheAndreasMustola Жыл бұрын
@@Ivee. They still work fine.
@Ivee. Жыл бұрын
@@TheAndreasMustola I've been turning mine off for about a month with an app on my phone. Loving the upgrade from a rift s
@vbscript23 жыл бұрын
As an engineer, the issue with starting and stopping the base stations constantly causing extra wear actually does make perfect sense. People who manage servers will tell you the same thing about hard drives. They're way more likely to fail if you start and stop them than if you just let them run 24/7. This is true for nearly any time of engine or motor. There's a lot more force required to start and stop them than to just let them run. Depending on the type of engine or motor, starting and stopping them can also cause thermal expansion/contraction cycles that you won't have if you just let them run at the same speed all day long. As far as the pulley system is concerned... I use a pulley system, too, but I have mine set up where it puts relatively little force on the cable. Basically just enough to hold it up. While the spring tension in the pulleys themselves are not adjustable, I just have multiple pulleys daisy-chained off of each other. Granted, mine is coming from a higher height than most. The main pulley is mounted about 9 feet up off the floor (high ceiling room,) but I have 3 pulleys daisy chained on it. While it's strong enough to keep the cable up in the air, it doesn't put much tension on the cable. The next pulley it's connected to has 2 pulleys daisy-chained. In addition to keeping the stresses on the cable down, this setup also greatly expands the area around which I can freely move for room-scale VR.
@DJHeroMasta3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the CV1 days lol, I went through 3 HMDS, all covered by Oculus. But this kit is far more expensive. Kinda glad I’ve yet to get an Index. For now, I’ll continue playing my PC VR games wirelessly with my Quest. 🤗
@kno97223 жыл бұрын
I will not leave the base stations on and here is why: First, I have the 1.0 ones and they are emitting a very subtle beeping sound constantly. If my room is totally quiet it really bothers me because i then here it. Second, my remote control doesn't work when the base stations are on because it is infra red, too. Thanks for the cable tip, though. I use the reverb g2 with index controllers and have the same pulley system. I just fixed my cable similar to yours. :D As always, great video!!! Normally I'm more of a lurker than a comment writer, but keep up. I love the content you create.
@gamesandstuff77243 жыл бұрын
I mean, you got 2 hours for every dollar spent? That seems like a good deal...
@kamarukou36483 жыл бұрын
With effort. Going through an RMA process takes time to process and effort for your part to send and receive stuff. It can get annoying and for those living outside of the US and supported countries, it would actually cost you money to go through the RMA especially now with shipping rates going through the roof because of obvious reasons.
@Rainison243 жыл бұрын
bought a quest for 400. no issues at all really and has 3000+ hours clocked in.
@mac1991seth3 жыл бұрын
That's more than you get from going to a cinema.
@derrenknight17933 жыл бұрын
Bug now compare that to me spending 300hours on a quest 2 since christmas I already have an hour per dollar 🤣🤣 oculus are unbeatable 😂
@Gherkins2 жыл бұрын
@@derrenknight1793 my airlink doesn't work smoothly for no reason.
@ERWebster3 жыл бұрын
I do not like the whirring of the base stations at night when it is dead quiet, and it appears as though my cats don't like it either. Got to power down every time, regardless of consequences. Fingers crossed. 🤞
@moonorama22913 жыл бұрын
if you listen very carefully, you can hear thrills wallet crying
@DoubsGaming3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a joke but he said that most of the RMA's were free so it would be valves wallet that's crying not trill's.
@thwalesproductions3 жыл бұрын
Actually the wallets that are crying are not his or valves but those normal index users
@andi3 жыл бұрын
I literally just searched up valve index videos and did not expect see a new upload from you about it and to be this early! :D
@fanrath72523 жыл бұрын
6:28 the FAQ says: "SteamVR's Base Station Power Management feature is turned OFF by default. Turning this feature ON ensures that your Base Stations power off when not in use to reduce power usage and extend their lifespan."
@secton3 жыл бұрын
Your Index has a rad post apocalyptic look. Tape, springs, glue... One day we will have a hard-core user headset. Maybe it will be made of Kevlar.
@BagilicousG3 жыл бұрын
I wish o could afford an index but the quest 2 is my maximum limit
@raviskal80513 жыл бұрын
i can relate
@JTF063 жыл бұрын
No one cares
@BagilicousG3 жыл бұрын
@@JTF06 im not gonna say it im going to hold it back f it NO ONE ASKED U OF U CARED
@ianwagner36033 жыл бұрын
@@JTF06 you cared enough to ask him that
@lazydoesyoutube13523 жыл бұрын
Yep same and I hate that I have to admit
@BurstupTV3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Thrill, this is a great video! I've been in VR since the days of the DK1 in 2014. My Rift CV1 (5 years old) still works great today (used for thousands of hours), and so far I never had any problems with my Rift S (one and a half years old). WIth the Index I had one failing controller three months in (replaced by Valve within a week). The Index headset still works, but I am starting to wonder when it will show the first symptoms... Same as you, I love the Index though and am still recommending it.
@KaiSith_3 жыл бұрын
I dropped my quest controllers in the water and it worked -_- And I threw my quest of my roof and it was still fine, damn the stuff it’s made of
@jatoxo3 жыл бұрын
I went swimming and diving with my headset on, it was a great experience and it works perfectly
@ExecutionerDan3 жыл бұрын
@@jatoxo I went into the void of space with my headset on and it worked great. Only complaint is that it was really cold and hard to breathe.
@SkySweeperSyn2 жыл бұрын
im glad to hear Valve replaced the headset that the spring exploded on - mine just did this too so I am trying to RMA it currently, I hope it goes through they've been giving me trouble with the controllers.
@jordanmyers34893 жыл бұрын
Why do I keep doing this getting here really early
@SkylerLinux3 жыл бұрын
You clicked the bell.
@KitelessRex3 жыл бұрын
My Index experience so far. Got about 1000 hours on my Index. 850 hours of that is VRChat. I have a 3D printed clip on the back of my headset to help keeo the strain off the built in cable holder on the side. My cable holder is still in tact thankfully. My VR playspace is in my bedroom so I can't have the light houses (base stations) spinning all the time. The high pitched whine would drive me crazy. So mine spin up and down every day and have been fine so far. Had my Index since Launch, so it's all first run hardware. I did finally have to replace my controllers as like most my left stick started drifting badly. 18 months into ownership I was well past warranty and had to buy new ones. I still have the old ones. I can solder so going to try and replace the stick at least on the left one, maybe both, just to have a backup set. I'm as gentle on my Index hardware as I can be. Please keep up the great content Thrill!
@BaxtonVR3 жыл бұрын
My vive has lasted me 3 years without a single replacement. If I ever get a index. I am keeping my vive as a back up for sure lol
@omnic40513 жыл бұрын
I have a psvr as a backup, tbh though that thing is really bad after a couple years of use.
@XIxR3DEEM3RxIX3 жыл бұрын
I have no Valve Index. I'm a fresh owner of an Oculus Rift S. I like the thing very much! Sometimes it has some Software / Hardware issues. Nothing big in comparison. It makes me pretty angry sometimes. But it is healthy as far as it looks. I bought it used for about 300 Euros. Normal price is about 400 Euros. It is very much money for me but I had the chance to afford it. Now, because of the video I'm afraid my Rift S get some serious issues too early. If it lasts a few years it's okay. But not when something's broken or something's not working after some months or so. But for the index... wow! For more than 1000 Bucks I would really expect something what has really not such problems after a while. But at least you get some good support from Valve. I can really recommend everybody to buy VR Equipment. It's much money, but it's such a brutal experience. Completly different to normal gaming and absolutly not comparable.
@wolfytuent45413 жыл бұрын
We all know we are waiting for the quest review after 100 hours
@user-js1mf7gg8t3 жыл бұрын
Probably not gonna happen
@objectivemillennial21173 жыл бұрын
he hate oculus
@wolfytuent45413 жыл бұрын
@@objectivemillennial2117 I know but there is always the small chance
@rapha54933 жыл бұрын
@@wolfytuent4541 if he got sponsored once by oculus there is indeed a chance
@wolfytuent45413 жыл бұрын
@@rapha5493 ya for sure but there is suchsmall chance it would happen but who knows
@WinstonTheRedFoxLabrador2 жыл бұрын
My man has clocked in 83 days of on-screen time
@TrevorJones13 жыл бұрын
9:31 Y'all heard that? When Pimax releases their controllers Thrillseeker is switching.
@AtlanticPOG3 жыл бұрын
He doesnt like pimax bc of pimax software
@TrevorJones13 жыл бұрын
@@AtlanticPOG He must not have seen it recently. Its become quite spectacular. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWecm4uga8itpNE kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZasfKOsm8eUY7s
@AtlanticPOG3 жыл бұрын
@@TrevorJones1 oh wow thats impressive
@top_dawg_toby3 жыл бұрын
Oh lord, i have 2805 hours on mine, only broken a controller strap. Glad to know you can get repairs
@SecludedSoup3 жыл бұрын
I just got my valve index, and it’s beautifullllllll. I’ll be sad the day it stops smelling like a new car...:(
@AM1N4L3 жыл бұрын
Clean it on the reg with a slightly damp microfiber cloth and it will stay shiny :) I also recommend cleaning the lenses before every play session (circular, from the inside out slowly) if you keep them smushed up against your eyes. Sweat is the enemy of the glue moisture barrier seal under the lens rubber gaskets, be sure to air your headset out if you notice a sweat coming on. Removing the clear plastic faceplate when you jack in helps it stay cooler also.
@Begohan12343 жыл бұрын
@@AM1N4L agreed. I've been trying to tell people this and I wish thrill was more careful or at least made it known that his issues are due to gross mistreatment, and not the typical user who may treat it like they couldn't afford another. That glue doesn't just come out from being warm, it comes out from molesting the rubber gasket while cleaning the lenses, pushing your eyebrows against it while playing, and sweating in the headset. Did you see the giant sweat/water damage ring around thrills lenses? It's ridiculous.
@SuperPeteJames3 жыл бұрын
I am a moderate user and yes, you need to treat the controllers with care. The triggers are fragile and its human nature to mash down on them during tense moments. Unfortunately there are small plastic parts holding the whole thing together.
@jukkahurskainen51923 жыл бұрын
Hi, bmw owner here... I wanted to say you are absolutely correct. Carry on!
@reyluna03 жыл бұрын
Hey thrill! Any news on the Deca Gear team? I remember them saying you would receive a post production headset for review
@Apostasy_Plague2 жыл бұрын
thanks for saving me from buying a new vr setup. ive now decided to simply buy the knuckles, keep my vive and all included hardware as a backup, put my gearVR lenses into my vive, and wait for an index revision or perhaps an HTC competitor before buying anything else. thoroughly earned sub. ill be tuning in for more content.
@grantschubring34893 жыл бұрын
The valve index is like a gold pickaxe in Minecraft it is the best but breaks in 4 seconds
@Brownies-oz5pe3 жыл бұрын
I have had my vive base stations on nonstop for 2 years with no issue so that's pretty epic
@psycold3 жыл бұрын
Aren't you the guy who was doing handstands wearing a VR headset?
@PopLadd3 жыл бұрын
I have a Reverb G2, which I'm sure you're aware doesn't have the best cable clip, so that cable management tip will really come in handy for me. Especially since I just recently installed my super high-tech pulley system consisting of one (1) tiny metal hook screwed into the ceiling that I haphazardly drape the cable over.
@3d1stp3rs0n3 жыл бұрын
Do the base stations make noise when running (isn't there something spinning inside)? How much power do they consume?
@jatoxo3 жыл бұрын
Yes they make noise. Some people say it's annoying, some say they don't notice it. There was a thread that meantioned you can slightly change their operating frequency in Steam which can make the noise less annoying. Power draw should be around 5W each, at least that's what I found on the 1.0 lighthouses.
@underflip23 жыл бұрын
I never ever hear mine and i have 4 of them.
@Wangan_W3 жыл бұрын
The 1.0 yes the 2.0s not so much.
@mayhem16243 жыл бұрын
As the family tech person I am in charge of upkeep of our index and modding beat saber blah blah. After only having the index since late august with light usage (1-4 hours 5 days a week, No pulley system, nothing very active beyond beat saber) I have had to RMA the headset, a controller, and two base stations. The first headset repeatedly disconnected from any computer it was plugged into at seemingly random intervals. The right knuckle controller thumb-stick flicked by my pocket in use and ripped straight out taking a few traces with it surprisingly, while this was somewhat my fault its still impressive how easily and how violently it failed. Took four weeks for a replacement to come in non-advance. Straight through the holiday season. The two base stations are both just random failures. Both base stations are stably mounted but are shut off via Bluetooth. The first happened just a week or so into ownership and was replaced within a few days, would not track or spin up. The second base station one day started blinking red even though it was working perfectly fine and a rather annoying constant error window showed at every play session. I figured it was a basic software issue or something that could be debugged as the station still worked fine. Steam support simply recommended to check for updates and sent me a new one. I feel you defiantly get your moneys-worth in the warranty, and that's not a positive. Still a great experience when its not out for repairs or return.
@OrangeC73 жыл бұрын
I know it's a bit cliché to mention but I don't think I've ever gotten to start watching a video only 4 minutes after it was released
@Finkle763 жыл бұрын
Nice! I think the earliest I've gotten is 30 seconds. It was crazy tho bc I don't use post notifications at all for anyone
@vamsigagjew15353 жыл бұрын
Yeah watching videos early either means that you are lucky or you have no life
@smittyvanjagermanjenson1823 жыл бұрын
This has given me much to think about when upgrading from my Rift S in the future, thanks thrill. Hopefully another company steps up, or valve does a revision to the index that reinforces its weak points shown!
@TheLevitatingChin3 жыл бұрын
"Just game the RMA system" classy. And he wonders why this stuff is so expensive to begin with.
@jonathan03223 жыл бұрын
It's expensive because it comes with the RMA system. Not using it would be idiotic.
@TheLevitatingChin3 жыл бұрын
You don't understand what 'gaming' something means.
@nolomite39213 жыл бұрын
Well said. I've had to go through 6 RMAs with the Index controllers and now the my warranty is up they are not doing anything for me. I've figured out how to fix the thumbstick drift by actually replacing the thumbstick component. I'm going to be uploading a video soon explaining the process as well as possibly offering a service for anyone that needs thumbstick drift fixed in case they'd rather not do their own repairs.
@cfitzhark11403 жыл бұрын
_And here comes the onslaught of_ *"1st"*
@Flashny3 жыл бұрын
1st
@cfitzhark11403 жыл бұрын
@@Flashny you are dead to me
@AutisticYui3 жыл бұрын
As another multiple-thousand hour index user, I've actually had a very smooth experience. I've had to replace BOTH controllers due to drift and I do a lot of jumping in VRChat with the thumbsticks so that was probably the culprit. A rebind helped great. The glue melted in my headset but was easy as heck to get pull out. I put my base stations into "sleep mode" instead of powering them down and have never had an issue. You get the same noise reduction without potentially killing them.
@dan3a3 жыл бұрын
TL;DW : Good headset, but fragile as fuck
@InkBlitz3 жыл бұрын
Index user here! I've owned mine for about three months and I'd say that I have around 200 hours on it. Thus far I've had to RMA a controller for the thumbstick just... popping out one day. I tried to put it back in, but the capacitive cable that enabled capacitive touch snapped. I have no idea how it happened! But Valve replaced it within two weeks, no questions asked. Aside from that, I only get a minor sound issue with the right speaker, but I'm going to try the maintenance suggested in the vid and see if it fixes it. In terms of usage, I'd call myself a moderate user. I play a bit of Beat Saber and Phasmophobia, and do a lot of full body motion in VRChat plus dancing. But I've only recently gotten a pully system, so we'll see how that goes in a couple months.
@Splarkszter2 жыл бұрын
this dude house is hell for vr headsets. not good review video for normal use. this is extreme use. do not use this video as advice or to affect you purchase choices (at least on the bits that he broke the thing doing his dumb stunts).
@bird14762 жыл бұрын
My just broke from regular use. I’ve had to replace a base station and 3 controllers
@theo_407018 күн бұрын
i’ve had my quest 2 for 2 and a half years now and it still works perfectly
@NumbaOne3 жыл бұрын
So in simple terms...it's like a Mercedes Really nice but u don't want too own one out of warranty or you'll go bankrupt in repair costs