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We've built several crazy multi-gamer virtualization setups over the years, but we've never tried to actually put them into production. Today, that changes, as we endeavour to build a 5 gamers 1 CPU setup that will actually be deployed in my new house!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Concept
1:41 The LAN Center & How It Will Work When Deployed
2:45 The Problem With Full-Size PCs
3:45 The Parts & Building The Rig
9:26 It Boots!
10:28 The Storage
10:52 Some VMs!
12:30 Fixing One of the GPUs
13:51 ALL THE VMs!
14:18 Installing Games and GAMING! wooooo!

[@CreatedTech]

Good to see father and son working on some more tech projects together. Doe Yvonne know that Jake is living in the cupboard under the stairs yet?

[@vhenriquez240277]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mrNLRay]

🤣

[@tempest031]

😂😂😂

[@douglas8568]

Jake used the bathroom more times than Linus and Yvonne right now in their new home

[@DoctorORBiT]

@@douglas8568 Jake Potter!

[@thexgamer8240]

It’s so nice to see Yvonne’s husband and his husband working together.

[@TheXshot]

I like your name

[@TechOrdinance]

ive been suspecting that they may be poly for a while now

[@KingsNJenssons]

@@TechOrdinance based on them being basically best friends?

[@omegaPhix]

@@KingsNJenssons best friends as in married??

[@elevul]

@@KingsNJenssons i assume the constant sexual jokes, including about threesomes

[@KrytopsyX]

Man, this feels just like home. Having fun with the boys messing with tech, overclocking, pushing the hardware and the softwares to do cool things. I'm so thankful LMG has been a part in my life and the life of so many people for so many years now.

[@Gamer-df9xt]

Yvonne: Linus, you promised. Linus: I had my wires crossed.

[@stonetheforbidden]

Y'know, it's really nice that Linus and Jake are letting Yvonne live in their house.

[@guy_autordie]

With her children too.

[@AfroMidwestern]

😆

[@jonathans175]

A few things I've learned from running VMs on AMD Zen... 1. Pin the virtual CPUs to physical cores. Pin QEMU's IOThreads and emulator thread to a certain CCX as well. That one should be obvious. 2. Never, under any circumstances, let a VM use cores from different CCXes. They'll just fall over and die with random latency spikes because of InfinityFabric. 3. Don't assign hyperthreads to VMs. Windows can't deal with it. Performance dies if you do that. 4. Apply the "performance" CPUFreq governor on the host system. 5. Configure the VM's threads to use the realtime (FIFO) scheduler. (Only do this when the threads are already pinned.) 6. Expose the host CPU model (host-passthrough) and its various CPUID features that are normally masked (especially hardware vulnerability mitigation flags such as mds-no). 7. Important emulated CPU features: invtsc (invariant timestamp counter; games will hate you due to timer jitter / latency if you don't enable it), pdpe1gb (huge pages), mds-no ("no meltdown vuln" flag), and other vulnerability-related flags (check the QEMU docs for which ones you need) 8. Expose native TSC for fast RDTSC (games love that instruction), disable HPET 9. Use the virtio-scsi controller for attaching disks (needs special Windows drivers); the default SATA one is insanely slow. And while you're at it, set discard=unmap for all disks so TRIM works and Windows automatically shrinks the VM image when you delete files from the VM's filesystem. Note that virtio-scsi currently has a bug that makes it peg a CPU core at 100% but a patch is already on the mailing list. (Edit: The bug has now been fixed at least in Debian Testing and possibly in other distros too.) 10. Replicate the GPU's function-level PCIe device numbering inside of the VM (multifunction device) 11. Use the virtio ethernet device (needs drivers) 12. If you want Windows 11, use swtpm to get Secure Boot; no "No TPM Win11" patch needed 13. memballoon model=none

[@applicablerobot]

Maybe this already exists, but I would donate a decent bit to a centralized guide/tip source to this level of virtualization

[@chadhowell1328]

Quality information that should be recognized.

[@zeromant80]

This guy VM’s

[@kman1898]

Any chance you could help me on this? I’ve been trying to get my AMD VM system up and running for months and still can’t do it.

[@MaxUgly]

This should be etched into a stone tablet!

[@Momo1285_]

I swear Linus has a document with every sponsor segway he's ever used so that he doesn't duplicate any

[@marcodoe4690]

I bet he has an eidetic memory about his sponsor segways.

[@pkennethv]

"...like how I would need to duplicate myself if it wasn't for our sponsor, SmartDeploy, simple & fast imaging software..."

[@bonamin]

I've gone the VM way myself. We used to have 2 computers for gaming. Me and my wife. Now I've made 1 single PC with beefy hardware, and two GPUs. Unraid is SO amazing. Our kid is a little too young to be playing games, (just 42 days old :D) but in the future, this will most likely be our setup too. Amazing stuff. Saves on energy too.

[@volargergo1284]

16:30 "We should've just bought CS:GO..." Who is gonna tell them guys?

[@rolandkertesz4196]

Same thing. LMAO

[@ManunKanava]

Yeahhhhhh

[@timplett1]

Would've blown the budget lol

[@kalanaSNK]

Scrolled all the way down to see am i the only one who noticed it...lol

[@theisaacpigg27_32]

Somehow I had to scroll for a good minute or two before someone brought this up

[@ensuredchaos8098]

All Linus has to tell Yvonne is that the PC doubles as a portable space heater which will cut down on electricity costs, can't argue with savings.

[@GameCyborgCh]

problem is the space heater is located in the server room

[@MahiraSeikh]

Yes

[@ShieTar_]

She might argue with your definition of "portable" though. Have you ever tried to lift a full rack?

[@si2foo]

@@ShieTar_ welll install wheels on it which are good heavy load ones and should be pushable by a toddler

[@vinstaal0]

especially with the current prices

[@ryanwollum6744]

For whatever reason this keeps getting attempted over the years, it's really cool to slowly watch the technology catch up to an idea

[@kishascape]

Actually this is just backwards faddish is and is going the opposite direction. It hasn’t been “attempted” it’s how early computing w@s done and is still done to this day. Just with actual mainframes instead of consoomer fad technology

[@thebaum64]

So glad there is more and more house content, legit can't get enough of it. I get so excited every time there is a new one lmao

[@tydavis.3.1]

So, I know this is a long while away, but I'm getting pumped for a glorious hour-long full house tour video when it's done.... that is gonna happen, right?

[@maxdeathlore]

In a year probably

[@MakeOrBreakSociety]

It had better. Just make it a WAN show with no other topics. Just house and merch messages

[@AdrianVM19]

More like a 3-parter full house tour series :P The house has to pay for itself at some point!

[@TheIrishAlchemist205]

@@AdrianVM19 That's the real answer!!

[@3vIl3aGl3]

@@AdrianVM19 one part better be exclusively on the paint

[@Neoxon619]

I wouldn’t assume that a spouse isn’t there just because Yvonne isn’t present. Jake is in the room with you.

[@amicloud_yt]

tbf they said "Wife not present", not "Husband not present"

[@miladhaghpanah7986]

I knew it from the beginning 🤣

[@her3tic67]

But Jake's their adoptive son... AYO

[@Neoxon619]

@@amicloud_yt That is true, he was more specific.

[@michaelf.2449]

@@amicloud_yt you assuming Jake's gender?

[@partyroekel9426]

I remember watching your old 5 gamers 1 CPU videos and its incredible how much easier its become

[@reyalPRON]

Fun to see that you guys still have the drive to put out quality content regularly. Long time fan from norway. Good job guys This has become an institution.

[@svenkleinplarre9461]

"We can give the kids 16 and use the rest for something else" These 5 year olds have more computing power than what I ever had.

[@wileymonair]

I remember upgrading from 1gb ram to 2 just to run windows 7 without chugging in its beta release lol I got my first SSD 5 years ago. I was amazed.

[@satyarsh665]

i still use 8gb of ram on my thinkpad t410 running Linux lmao

[@dy7296]

yea fr

[@excalligator5529]

@@satyarsh665 old thinkpads for life

[@Riko_KP]

Replaced my i5 2500K and RX 570 with a Ryzen 5 5600 and RX 6600 XT a couple weeks back. I still can't believe this is actually mine, the speed is amazing.

[@conscience_cat1146]

Linus you REALLY need to look into UNRAID emulation thread pinning. You'd be better off giving 5 CPU's to each machine and pinning the emulation overhead to a single CPU core per VM that's separate to the gaming cores (you could also get away with one thread per VM). It will cut down the inter-core latencies and the VM will perform at around 95% of bear metal performance, even when CPU bound. I run a similar setup at home and once I pinned the Emulation threads to separate cores from my gaming cores my FPS shot up in CPU bound games. It also has a positive effect on 1% and .1% lows when not CPU bound. There are multiple UNRAID forum threads discussing this topic.

[@EggsTeaSea]

UNRAID is such a cheat code for getting performance out of your VM's it's absolutely ridiculous. Definitely try it Linus!

[@skybike89]

You sound like you know what you're talking about so I agree.

[@branchprediction9923]

@@skybike89 same xD

[@chiciu]

@@skybike89 exactly my thoughts

[@s.i.m.c.a]

its some ridiculous bullshit, pinning is just that you "pin", as name suggest, specific cores to specific VM's. It only makes sense if you find out, which cores are sitting on one amd chiplet to not use cross-chiplet connection. For Intel this is totally useless. And i even don't know....if it will give any real performance boost, taking into account that main purpose are the gaming and GPU are more important

[@Sythemn]

A few years back, a server manufacturer we do business with ran out of PCI bus numbers on a CPU (256 of which, in this case split into 64 x 4 bus numbers across CPU's) via risers with bridges connecting to truely absurd numbers of devices that required UEFI changes to resolve. The server stuff has already been stress tested beyond anything you could do without specialty hardware.

[@gareth4348]

This compared with some of the other similar videos is insane, glad the hardware and software has come so far

[@TheMx5Channel]

I'm glad Linus keeps trying to piss off Yvonne by getting "nice" stuff :D And jake is like the little kid asking him to do so. God, I love LTT.

[@loveago305]

Makes the channel more fun🤣🤣✔

[@realtonysolo]

She knows bro.

[@suntzu1409]

@@realtonysolo 👁️👄👁️

[@Aristo12]

Since the machine has some resources left: adding another VM which acts as a Steam download cache/proxy would help with so many gaming instances. :D

[@j33pguy]

Lancache for the win!! Been using it for years now to do steam and all my other updates.

[@kaukospots]

it really wouldn't, the bottleneck is storage speed, not internet speed

[@konzo5942]

@@kaukospots you mean the single core decompression on Steam

[@ZaHandle]

@@kaukospots Local network speeds tend to be better than internet speed

[@holeinthesest]

Would be better to just have a shared scsi drive tbh.

[@Carnage8]

Always love these large and powerful virtualized setups so cool!!

[@xGaLoSx]

Jake and Linus def the best LTT duo. Love these home vids so much!

[@MisterBloodBunny]

It would be nice if you'd also talk about games that you can't run on this setup: Game devs that prevent or even BAN people that run their games in a virtualized env.

[@Bogeyatyour6YT]

This would be actually a nice subject for enthusiasts that might want to do a similar project like this one.

[@airgeadlamh]

You can enable Hyper-V and not even windows will detect it is in a virtual machine

[@MisterBloodBunny]

@@airgeadlamh Well it won't work on Valorant as far I can tell, so that's one.

[@chrisd.141]

There are workarounds, but you effectively have to go as far as tricking the OS into thinking it’s bare metal, and is a pain in the ass. Definitely a subject I’d like to see LTT cover.

[@drsupergood8978]

@@airgeadlamh With sensible software that is the case since a developer has absolutely no need to know or even care if it is running in a virtual machine. However considering we are talking about games that unpatched refused to run on any Intel 12th generation processor with both P and E cores present, these games are not sensible software... The anti cheat and DRM solutions used by such games look for irregularities of virtual machines that are difficult to mask. For example if the processor advertised does not match the expected specification, if the processing cores seem to behave inconsistently (P core vs E core), if some operations show virtualisation latency overhead, e.t.c. These are hardware and platform specific hacks to detect virtualisation which is why something like Intel coming along with a hybrid core processor can cause the games to stop working on legitimate hardware. The reason why a game developer wants to detect and block virtualisation is that there is a lack of trust in the hypervisor integrity by the very nature of it being a hypervisor. A well behaved hypervisor should not be eavesdropping on the memory content of the virtual machines it is running. Cheaters do not use well behaved hypervisors... Instead their hypervisor's entire point is to read the content of the game memory inside the virtual machine for features such as wall hacks, or to modify the games memory inside the virtual machine for features such as speed hacks and aim bots. Conventional detection techniques cannot stop this since the hypervisor can detect such checks and replace everything to make it look normal. This was needed after untrusted operating systems started to be blocked (why such games do not work on Linux) as those can do similar. This is not just a problem for game developers. Compromised hypervisors is a major consideration for cloud computing and is why there is a large movement towards TPM, secure boot and even hardware support for virtual machines to run code and store data in a way that hypervisors cannot intercept or tamper with it. Hopefully in the future we will see anti cheat and DRM solutions support virtual machines using these features.

[@Dragonmastersservant]

I've come to the conclusion that LTT spawned entirely from Linus' desire to build his dream home

[@solidsnakeandgrayfox]

This is underrated.

[@Endercass]

bALLS

[@iwatchwithnoads7480]

I bought monitor and wireless mouse keyboard, and wrote them off as business expense (mixed use at home). I felt guilty so then I watched Linus's house videos.

[@talonaskelson9450]

@@iwatchwithnoads7480 watch with ads

[@CeilingOven.]

sick pfp

[@TheTimtam112]

17:42 The pizza lmao. Usually I just skip through the ads but that caught my eye. I will say that it should have been a hot pocket for the memes.

[@nathantron]

Did you know you can share a network share between all the VM's and run your games off that, simultaneously? It's awesome. When downloading games though, make sure you don't download at the same time on multiple machines though.

[@ionstorm66]

You need the full x16 slot on the USB cards to get the full 66 watts of 12v from the socket. Anything less than X16 is limited to 25 watts of 12v. They likely need the 66 watts to power the PCI-E switch and the 4 controllers, plus 2.5 watts per port.

[@TheEpicAppleEater01]

This guy USBs

[@pp3v42_g3h]

Check the pci-e pinout, all the 12V and 3.3V pins are on the front side. Source: I repair GPUs all the time :D You could saw off all the pins and just leave the 1x part and even a 3090 would run just fine.

[@ionstorm66]

@@TheEpicAppleEater01 more like PCI-E's lol. Sonnet makes great products, if a bit pricey. That extra prices goes into over-engineering everything. So instead of making it a x8 card with external port, they made it x16 with no power, because almost every consumer x8 slot is physical x16 anyway. Also on a consumer level board you could run a PCI-E 4.0 GPU at x8 for only 1-2% loss in performance, and run this card at full speed in the other x16 slot.

[@AniviaS]

Bullshit, you can pull 75w even with pcie x1

[@ionstorm66]

@@pp3v42_g3h That may be possible, but that isn't up to PCI-E specifications, and Sonnet isn't going to release a hacky product like that. You need to have a physical x16 device to go into x16 "high power device" mode, anything less than that only gets the x1 "high power device" mode at 25W of 12V. This is so that a main-board manufacture has the correct power delivery. If you look on boards with 3+ x16 slots they generally have extra power connectors just for the PCI-E power, as the ATX 24 pin can only provide 144W of 12V. The EPS 12V connectors are generally on a separate power plane for CPU and memory, so the PCI-E slots draw only from the ATX 24pin.

[@marts8465]

I would love to see the energy statistics behind this. benchmarking the setup as a whole for average watts VS having separate machines and work out the performance per watt. Could it be better on power usage, even with it running 24/7 factoring in idle / use time.

[@D3nn1s]

Honestly during use its most certainly more power efficient and im not convinced it would be powered on 24/7. Or if it is linus will probably install some idle miner

[@fightingfalconfan]

these are on 24/7. Unraid can be quarky with Windows VM's so it's best to just leave it running all the time.

[@D3nn1s]

@Roberto Ramos where are yiu from?

[@D3nn1s]

@Roberto Ramos not sure what owning a pc has to do with media sickness, but since im from europe myself i indeed know where poland is :D

[@urtwietii]

I love your enthusiasm man. You deserve every ounce of success, congratulations and love your happiness Linus! Jake seems like he loves his job, you've done a hell of a job!

[@OfficialSamuelC]

Linus & Jake combo always works so well. Jake always impresses me with his knowledge.

[@yimyom]

Linus finally did it. he sacrificed his wife to the PC gods for a Blessing for us all.

[@allansh828]

it's just a GPU mining rig

[@XTR_NEELAN]

His son is there

[@Edf4m3]

I'd honeslty like to see a channel dedicated to Jake explaining how to set this, the virtualizations and resource management, of this projects! :D

[@nikoh4591]

It would propably be Jake watching tutorials and reading technical documentation

[@Edf4m3]

@@nikoh4591 not that part, the part in-between where he explains what he set up and how (not full detail but a bit more than in this video)

[@hoofhearted4]

​@@Edf4m3 i would like that too. in fact most of this house series would be nice to have that. its so cool to see everything being done, but HOW is it done. I'm personally not familiar with AV stuff, so more on that side would be very interesting. And also, what is possible on a non LTT budget.

[@Edf4m3]

@@hoofhearted4 I really agree that it could be very helpful for most of the fellow nerds and enthusiasts

[@ashtonhershberger1197]

At 11:33 Linus slaps the monitor right when the input notification disappears, it’s stupid but I love it

[@yeetedingo]

15:47 the sight of 5 g pro superlights just sitting there gives me life

[@sougol248]

7:12. “For the kids we got rtx 3060ies” I feel fucking broken

[@PhilfreezeCH]

As a side note, you can actually fit two mini-ITX boards into one 19“ rack, so you could actually easily have two PCs per rack. So assuming 4U per rack you could fit 5 entire PCs into 12 U rack space which isn‘t all that bad. I think if you plan it properly you could probably even fit three mini-ITX boards into one rack (the boards themself fit but you might have to stagger them because the cards are longer; you would have the arranged in an L-shape with the PSU in the ‚hole‘). So that lowers it to 8U.

[@Taylormade2350]

Yeah well where's the fun in that when you can run all 5 on 1.

[@phillipmbise23]

But then you've got to run too many splitters for the motherboard, or multiple PSU...I think one motherboard is the better option

[@brazenh2836]

Yes but what's the comparison in cost. Also for maintenance (considering the current hardware optimizations) managing "1" machine is easier no?

[@Igor_servant_of_Philemon]

I never thought about that but yeah. Just put 5 ITX or micro-ATX boards into the rack. Maybe make some homemade holding plates to screw them into. Then use 5 colour coded PCIe riser cables and put the GPUs next to each other similarly to the mining test setup they did in the video. I'm not entirely sure about sizes but i'd say it sounds realistic.

[@pcmasterracetechgod5660]

Another side note, CSGO is free lol, they could've ran it on his wifes account

[@gruphius]

This is probably the most satisfying tech video I ever saw, since everything just worked...

[@ChristopherWoods]

One of the best videos in AGES 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 loved this, loved the banter, loved the tech experimentation, loved the end result.

[@siriusaltieri]

"No Wives detected" implies a possibilty of there being more than 1 wife.

[@saccaed]

I sincerely hope that everyone involved in error 43 at nvidia is cursed with ants no matter where they go. More than a decade of fighting error 43 just to setup a simple Windows VM through linux and friends doing the same. Remove the account login BS requirement for using shadowplay and I will actually compliment the company and products.

[@ThePiprian]

They just made their linux drivers open source so it seems everything is possible.

[@myrealusername2193]

@@ThePiprian really? That’s actually great! Hopefully someone will be able to develop a Mac version from that soon.

[@guy_autordie]

@@myrealusername2193 Jeff geerling just made a video this morning.

[@nyairobi]

They didn't actually make their drivers foss. They just opened up the kernel module which is a step in the right direction but the real interesting parts remain closed

[@raracool6531]

@@nyairobi yes, but it means a lot of the workload is taken off of Nouveau, the actual people making an open source Nvidia driver. Correct me if I’m wrong, but this completely eliminates Nouveau’s problem of not being able to utilise the entire card? They can now focus on getting things like NVENC or ray tracing to work. Besides, many people’s issue with Nvidia being closed source is that it “tainted” the kernel, which is important when doing Linux from scratch. Even though it’s not entirely FOSS, there are still applications where this solves a lot of problems. It’s a start.

[@GaryTuohy]

I love the dynamic between these two!

[@MrMichaeldwatson]

I would love to see a deeper dive into the set up and core allocation you used for this set up. Great video!!!!

[@paweskarzynski8068]

it's not great because it does not provide any good information or even a starting point as you mentioned.

[@jortand]

If we don't get a full 3-hour long house tour in like 3 years when Linus finally moves in, I will be slightly annoyed.

[@Lyonsvideos112]

The most frustrating part of this video is that CSGO is free 😐

[@RicardoJunqueira]

There was so much tech lingo in this video, of which I couldn't understand no more than 5% (at best), that I watched it as a dog would. I was just somewhat happy to be a part of it. And oh, Jake... I bet his amazing at what he does. Like, other companies try to steal him out all the time. Fricking dude is so knowledgeable and friendly.

[@EmeraldWitch]

Once you can use ZFS you can dedupe the storage to save a bunch of space since the VMs will largely be mirrors of each other and multiple installs of the same games will all just point to the same locations. Just make sure you are using a large enough raid pool so the speeds can keep up.

[@InterFelix]

Actually, IPMI doesn't take long to boot at all. It's pretty much instant. The reason why Server boards take so long to boot is all the self-tests, memory training etc. Also, most of the time server boot time doesn't matter at all, so optimizing it isn't development time well spent, so nobody does it.

[@kaldo_kaldo]

I would argue that it's fairly important. Servers are almost always on, the goal is extreme uptime. So then if the server needs to go down for maintenance, you want it back up as fast as possible, right?

[@InterFelix]

@@kaldo_kaldo true, but once there needs to be downtime, usually there are other factors that weigh in much more than the server boot time. Like hardware maintenance tasks or something like that. Plain reboots without any tasks between shutdown and boot are rare once a server has reached production.

[@beemo1579]

@@kaldo_kaldo Since most server hardware runs in clusters, losing a node for a minute of booting, is not generally a big deal. Maybe in cloud or datacentre scale those numbers might add up, but for normal enterprise gear it's not generally very important.

[@tearsintherain6311]

I love how Linus found a way to monetize his new house by showing it to us with the most mundane of tech curiosities… AND WE LOVE IT

[@Cornelius87]

lol, hey at least he's keeping the videos tech related. I've seen other tech youtubers monetize their home remodeling videos when all they're doing is installing flooring or adding walls.

[@TheCh4nc3]

The house has really paid for itself 😂😂😂

[@dxg999]

@@TheCh4nc3 Think of all the tax deductables!

[@thomasphillips885]

Mundane tech curiosities? Running 5 gaming VMs off one board is hardly mundane

[@tearsintherain6311]

@@thomasphillips885 i meant it not as simple but as in, i don't think most people here clicked because they wondered how to do this, more like because we love linus content

[@saadsarnaik]

Very interesting video. Definitely interested in a follow up video

[@ksp1278]

I have a main gaming PC, not a VM, and also a server PC running unraid. The unraid server runs my home lab (I am a software engineer) but also I have some VMs for gaming. I have a Windows XP VM for running my older games that don't work on Win10. I pass through a USB controller, and a GTX 750 Ti and it works great. I use a Creative X-Fi USB sound card to get EAX support. I also have a couple of VMs for my flight sim (XPlane) to run extra screens. I did try running my main gaming system in Unraid, and it worked fine but to be honest I just felt like having a real PC was giving me a smoother experience. There were minor micro-stutters on VMs , expecially if the server was running other VMs. I did all the usual stuff on pinning cores, isolating cores from unraid and pinning the I/O to a non VM Core.

[@DJSammy69.]

Jake & Linus together is always pure happiness! Enjoyment off the scale!

[@harbl99]

11:58 -- Jake channels his inner Labrador.

[@paulorodolfo4029]

Loved this video!! Super fans from Madeira Island Portugal! Cheers

[@AustenHilton]

The House series has been my favorite ongoing series on the channel

[@philipquenault5102]

Linus: Wife's not here so she can't object. Also Linus: Records and uploads the evidence to youtube. Yvonne's defence at murder trial: You see I had no choice.

[@sebastianjost]

Also uploads that video to an accounnt of a company that Yvonne owns 50% of.

[@Lem_On_Lime]

@@sebastianjost *49%

[@sebastianjost]

@@Lem_On_Lime didn't Linus want to change that for the next few years, so she owns 51% and he owns 49%?

[@balduin_b4334]

„Klick Start Mining dogecoin!“ lul 10:57

[@numa_kai]

cant wait to see the finished product

[@youtubecommenter4069]

I personally believe this was a very great video and a great trendsetter in resource-sharing and workflow automation and Linus didn't break or drop anything. Good job LTT!

[@Mike80528]

Unraid just requires the USB as their dongle for licensing (as the boot drive). It only reads from the USB at boot and writes the infrequent updates. Just use one of the internal USM ports on the MoBo to keep the USB out of sight.

[@copperfront]

This. Unraid loads the OS to RAM on startup after auth + system checks.

[@DanKaschel]

It's still pretty annoying.

[@fortayseven]

SSD's have serial numbers. *shocked pikachu face*

[@alexweeks9707]

@@fortayseven but why use a full SSD for an OS that is MAYBE 8GB.

[@copperfront]

@@alexweeks9707 also the OS 512mb anyways. Agree with you.

[@AgentLokVokun]

12:22 Jake is so excited because he didn't know if it would work :)

[@jonashoho8603]

hi Linus team, love those VM setups and did build one myself. i was just really annoyed by the sleep and hybernate function of a VM (wouldn't wake up via USB device) has this improved? Setup seemed way easier now, awesome love it.

[@boltsky1]

Any idea what they're using to manage KVM? I've usually used cockpit when I want a UI

[@Stw6m]

Linus develops a special talent by trolling his wife

[@MrSongib]

I think you can get that talent aswell if you pick at the right levels. XD

[@jacob_90s]

Oh I can't wait to see the video in a year where this backfires horribly. Actually he probably won't make a video; just an off the cuff remark on the WAN show where he says he had to scrap it.

[@MrGamingpixelz]

a setup like this is actually a double edged sword, on one hand you can't really play games that use anticheat software that doesn't allow VMs, but on the other hand because he is running regular windows and not windows server any serious malware that his kids will download will also see it is a VM, it will think that it is a malware analyst trying to analyze it and it will not run (this is actually a thing, a lot of malware these days come will a kill switch if they detect it is a virtual machine) but yes, not being a sysadmin and trying to run stuff like that could result in some problems. on the one hand he is using unraid which is a little bit more easy I would guess from esxi or proxmox but then again it is mostly made for NAS usage and some light VMs, he really need to invest some time to setup a proper hypervisor if he plans to do stuff like that.

[@drearyplane8259]

That's the LTT secret - the video recoups at least some of the cost of hardware so it's fine even if it fails

[@ewenchan1239]

There are definitely some pros and cons to this kind of a setup.

[@herrlindner]

Oh gosh I LOVE these two. So many common places 😍

[@Etemuss]

I always imagine that they have a meeting where they talk about upcoming videos and while Ivone is sitting at the table one just says "What about the "my wife is going to kill me" video linus?"

[@DuyNguyen-yx2vd]

And someone at the table is gonna have to be like "You're gonna have to be more specific"

[@ahuca117]

It would be super cool if you can somehow make use of the heat coming from the server room. Provided that there is a central HVAC system, maybe. Imagine the satisfaction when you fire up your server room and the HVAC can mix the warm air coming from it and reduce the airflow needed from the main heater. Might be a worthwhile investment if it's mostly cold over there.

[@dsilvermane_]

This is such a cool concept. Especially if I think about the good old LAN party days - run one PC for 4 players. Or whatever

[@davidschaub7965]

It would be interesting to see the power, price, and price/performance breakdown for this setup vs just using 5 boxes?

[@scottyvan]

These two together are absolutely electric. I die laughing every time 😂

[@sokifin01]

"I promised my wife that we were not going to do it this way but... I don't see her" That's exactly how i reach my conclusion if i'm going to do something i shouldn't. Only difference being that i don't even have a wife

[@transatlant1c]

I’m sure someone else has already mentioned but; unraid doesn’t really run ‘off’ the USB - it boots off it then loads most things into memory. Yes some config is written back to the USB occasionally but only a small amount.

[@tannerdavisr]

I always love these episodes of The House that Jake Built

[@Mr.Morden]

8:53 I used the paperclip method for years on an old PC. The GPU had a separate PSU from the rest of the system, never had a problem.

[@shrijandubey3549]

I JUST LOVE THE JOURNEY OF LINUS BUILDING HIS HOUSE FILLED WITH GAMING AND ENTERTAINMENT HARDWARE

[@imellor711]

Nice vid and solutution. But what SW did you use to host the virtual machines, Vmware ESXi or Microsoft Hypervisor?

[@DH-rt3fk]

I basically do this with my consoles. PS5 and Series X stay in the bedroom and I have some long HDMI cables running to the office. Keeps me nice and cool

[@TenEXP]

Immediate problem: Getting games with kernel-level anti-cheats to work will be a pain.

[@imgonnafindyourfamily3364]

What games have that other than valorant

[@JSTheAnonymousOne]

And nothing of value was lost

[@peperoni_slayer8918]

@@imgonnafindyourfamily3364 valorant 2

[@KontrolStyle]

@@imgonnafindyourfamily3364 warzone

[@AniviaS]

That has nothing to do with whether or not it's kernel level anticheat. Kernel level anticheat would still work on this setup, but if the anticheat detects and blocks VMs then it's gonna be a problem

[@PeacelordApropos]

I would have never guessed I would be so interested In tech going into a house - all of which I can never afford But this is awsome Watching you and your house elf work

[@onecleangti]

Lol don’t give jake a sock!

[@Matoro2002]

I've been going back and watching some of the videos in the linus's new house series, and so far one of the funniest parts is the benefit of hindsight, because half of these projects break because of hardware and software issues, and have since been replaced or required a lot of hours to fix (the living room audio and wi-fi array? borked by interference. the super elaborate virtual systems running on processors with tons of cores? thwarted by anti-cheat. the smart light system? screwed over by buggy firmware that he couldn't get replaced until he caused a scene on a livestream and finally got the company to send him an update. temperature sensor array and in-home heating? a ridiculous amount of wires that he later replaced with batteries. smart garage door? phone auto-connecting to the wrong Access point and failing to connect without him being right in front of the door, making an old remote garage door more usable. etc., etc., etc.)

[@bryce2113]

2022 = One 18 minute video on virtualization that took ~2012 Linus 4-6 videos to accomplish. Love to see it.

[@neighborhoodtechgeek2954]

I've been running me and my wife's Gaming VMs on my unraid NAS Threadripper for the past 4 Years. (Originally running only single Gaming vm on a 4790K... But then once I upgraded to Threadripper 2950x I was able to consolidate her Gaming PC into a VM..) Only complaint was that certain games that have anticheat software such as tom clancy's rainbow six siege, as well as some other games will not allow to play multiplayer with other people or won't launch since the anti cheat software detects you are inside of a VM. Other than that it has been really solid. My wife loves the ultra quiet at her desk thanks to the NAS being somewhere else and I've been using USB 3.0 active fiber optic extension cables & Display port active fiber optic cable... She loves it and it keeps the heat elsewhere.

[@SlothTechTV]

If i had to guess I would bet this will become more and more common (anticheat not working inside vms once the hypervisor is detected) .. How many games have you had this kind of problem with?

[@DanKaschel]

@@SlothTechTV I would have thought the opposite. Why should running on a VM trigger anti-cheat?

[@Elmiond]

@@DanKaschel The host machine has full access to the memory of the vm's so it can be used for cheating, some of which would be next to impossible to detect. Some anticheat will just ban anything that looks like it is running in a vm to avoid that, and while it's possible to hide that you are running in a vm the detection methods change and the workarounds usually come with some performance hit :/ It's what pushed me to build a separate leisure machine instead of piggybacking it alongside my work vm's, kept worrying about keeping up to date so I wouldn't lose my account/games/progress..

[@neighborhoodtechgeek2954]

@@SlothTechTV So far I want to say 3 or 4 games. However, I don't play much competitive multiplayer games a lot only with friends. The majority of the games I play were single player games which haven't had issues with. List of games I had issues with: - Tom Clancy's rainbow six siege (Can run game and do single player stuff against AI but won't let you join lobby with other people. Even if the lobby is you and your friends against AI) - Dead by daylight (Either wouldn't launch or wouldn't allow to enter lobby) - The Sims (Couldn't really find anything why but it wouldn't launch in my VM... The moment I put it on a physical PC outside of a VM it worked just fine.) Its been a while but I believe there were a few other games. Didn't have any issues with these games: League of Legends Overwatch Final Fantasy XIV CS:GO

[@neighborhoodtechgeek2954]

@@Elmiond I just made a Living room PC on bare metal with 3090 connected up to a 4k HDR 120hz tv. Majority of the games I play are on the living room PC but my work VM & wife's VM are both on my unraid still. Realized since I created the living room PC I haven't wanted to play much games on my gaming VM in the office since the living room setup was way better display and GPU. Once you've experienced 3090 on 4k tv with 120hz with gsync support it is hard to go back to play a game on a non-4k non-hdr non-gsync monitor with lower GPU.....

[@Mantris100]

Quick question, since all these Windows instances are running in VMs, wouldn’t that trip up Anticheat software?

[@MARUKU]

It definitely would. RIP to playing basically any game that requires some deeper anti-cheat than VAC. R6 is one of them iirc.

[@dangurney5317]

some do, like battle-eye and vanguard, whereas EAC seems to be ok with it

[@thebeatconnect1]

Yes, unless you do some configuration. You can enable hyper-v and windows will basically boot inside a virtual machine. So it will be a virtual machine inside a virtual machine. Hyper V will basically protect you from kernal level anticheat checking if you are in a VM. I basically done this and so far no bans at all

[@yasashii_koe]

Can't play most games with anticheat, significantly increased latency for inputs...This isn't it chief.

[@kaldo_kaldo]

@@yasashii_koe Oh, did you try his setup? How many ms was the latency over baremetal?

[@Onivfx]

Those segways make my day

[@xorkatoss]

16:52 LMAOOOO Linus smooth af!

[@Tikomer]

My favourite series on this channel. The chemistry between Linus and Jake is very fun to watch.

[@CD3MC]

I'd love to see a full house setup playlist, as it's kinda hard to find the videos that belong in this series.

[@123fearfreak]

With copyright protection Microsoft protects game storage on game pass, denuvo used hardware Id. I've had issues with windows 10 locking out game pass instance after a game crash because another service integral to game pass did not crash with the game and won't 'restart' until new system boot. With hardware virtualization I can see the same issue may be present and that is why halo infinite will not boot. I am aware it is steam launcher but just like with ea play it launches additional launcher with game boot. EDIT: did not see this is an old video and he figured out the same thing I deduced.

[@JJC1138]

As much as I love this concept, one game not booting (according to another comment because the anticheat doesn't like running in a VM) and one of the machines running at 30fps for unknown reasons sounds more like a world of pain than ready-for-primetime to me?

[@sillywabbit]

Jake has the best job, gets to mess around with all the cool concepts with out having to pay for them xD

[@tyler0]

This is a genius series of videos and it is my absolute favorite. I'm going to be super bummed when your actual "home" is finished but I have an "LTT" feeling that going to take a while to finalize lol

[@xGaLoSx]

I feel you man. Hopefully it takes them years to move in 😂😂

[@Prowisss]

I can’t wait to see them pull all this apart to upgrade it in a few years

[@howdoiplaydis8460]

HOUSE PROJECTS AND OFFICE UPGRADES ARE MY FAVORITE! MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK. WHY AM I SCREAMING

[@Hobbles_]

I'm honestly surprised at how seamless that was!! It makes me want to do something similar, even though I truly have no reason to do so XD

[@wasir3703]

LOL. Great timing. NVIDIA just open sourced their virtualization kernel drivers for linux today. Maybe they did it as the hackers already had the drivers and threatened to leak it or AMD was getting too ahead of them. Either way, better still keep doing 11:47 or they will pull some other crap yet.

[@coreywagar3890]

Yep i envy the bromance, the bickering is top notch amusement lol.

[@MichaelArthur4eva]

With 4 boys at home this is my dream setup. Been trying to go the proton path(running elementary OS) but a lot of my old games just don't work under wine/steam sadly and also nfs sharing doesn't work like it does under windows causing problems I just can't be bothered fixing.