Breville Barista Pro vs Barista Express Impress

[@LifestyleLab_]

Barista Pro: geni.us/VG0XE Barista Express Impress: geni.us/tMsC (As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases)

[@przemysaw124]

ok, just my question if the portafilter in these mentioned machines is delivered exactly the same

[@Genji9000]

I got myself an express impress two weeks ago. The main reason I like it is that I'm able to make a consistent high quality expresso in no time without making a mess. I don't really care about acquiring the master barista skill level, so the express impress is a good choice for me. As a side note for anyone who consider getting one, you can adjust grinding in two ways : the external "roulette" on the side, but there's also another setting inside the grinder itself. With the coffee I'm using, factory default was not fine enough and I got no pressure and a bad quality expresso. After some experiments and adjustments, I now have a great quality shot every time. There are some good videos about it on KZbin check them out.

[@mikemiller2633]

I bought the Impress, as I am new to expresso machine ownership. You are completely correct about throwing out a lot of shots when you first try it and dial it in. A con of the machine is remembering the button combinations you have to push to change most of the settings, instead of having a dedicated button or adjustment. I made a cheat sheet of the button combinations. It took me about a whole 12oz bag to dial it in, then I bought a different bag and had to start over. It is great once you get over the learning curve. I also chose the Impress since it would give me consistent dosing and tamping, so a few variables I didn't have to worry about as far as consistency or something I was doing wrong. Since buying the machine I have visited a local coffee roaster and tried different things and they even roasted me a custom bag, most of the customers there don't have an expresso machine, mainly pour over and coffee maker customers. I have been keeping a notebook about my settings for each different bag of coffee. The heating up time is not really that big of a deal. I turn it on, let the dogs outside, grind my beans, get my milk, and get everything in place and it is ready. As far as saving money since I have my own machine, I think it may take a few years for that to be realized. It is very nice though just making a latte whenever I want instead of going to the coffee shop, which is 20 minutes away. Also I did call Breville tech service, the hold time was pretty long but there is option to leave a call back number. They called me back about an hour later and were very helpful and also explained the different portafilter baskets and when to use each one and they also sent me a free bag of freshly roasted coffee. Overall it has been a fun experience and something you can really nerd out over.

[@frankazzuri8984]

Can you share you settings?

[@johnnywalker4857]

Your videos have been extremely helpful to me both before and after I purchased my Barista Pro. Appreciate you taking the time to make these informative videos for us.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Glad they’re helpful :)

[@andyskotnicki7862]

I had the Impress for almost a month. It was very convenient but I soon started to fiddle with the grounds, WDT, distributing, and manually tamping. Sure it’s more work but it’s also a challenge. I personally need challenges to overcome so it was a no-brainer to switch over to the Pro as my new first machine. I’m still dialing in the Pro after watching the video and noticed the Pro goes through MUCH less water than the Impress. I had to empty the drip tray after 3-4 drinks with the Impress. Anyway, hope to move up to a higher quality machine when it makes sense. Cortados are my new favorite drink! Thanks for the great info and will subscribe.

[@kennethduffy5671]

You did a really great job explaining the differences here. I really appreciate your hard work here.

[@Chrischin99]

That was a great analogy with the bikes. My parents had a barista express and I used and did pretty well with it, I think now that I moved out I can move up to the pro instead of getting the impress, although the impress would be nice for my wife to make easy espresso

[@tarek307]

The pressure gauge to me is a visual necessity , it just looks good like the old school machines,

[@singularity844]

How do you know to adjust your grind size If if you don’t need to look at the pressure gauge?

[@LifestyleLab_]

By the flow rate of the espresso into the cup.

[@singularity844]

@@LifestyleLab_ where is the sensor/dial for that? Are you talking about watching the liquid run out and guessing?

[@LifestyleLab_]

No guessing at all. This is standard practice. Any cafe you go to will dial in every morning, and they’re not looking at the pressure gauge to do it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/el7Fh2egYr9gqbc

[@tarek307]

@@singularity844 I bought a Jura Ena 4 , no more worrying about any of this stuff, but still get an excellent fresh cup of cafe

[@rimbank]

Thanks for the video. I'm going for the Impress only because different family members make the coffee in our house and it gives a consistent coffee and controls others who don't want to learn how to do it right. If it was just me making the coffees I would certainly go for the PRO due to the 3 second heat up and the 3 second transition which is awesome. Thanks for helping me make the right choice in choosing our next coffee machine.

[@christopherknotts4415]

I am brand new to espresso making and more importantly, I wanted my daughter to be able to make her own espresso. I chose the Impress under the circumstances and am glad I did.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Absolutely perfect scenario for that machine 👍

[@Masterrunescapeer]

Have the Barista Pro, coming from never having had an espresso machine, took like an hour of looking at videos and then about ten shots before good enough to consistently have a good espresso. Basically if you have a light roast, go with an 8, if it's medium to dark, it's around 11-14 mark, depending, play around with it. In terms of how many beans each time, just use a dosing cup with a scale, pre-measure the bean and throw it in, now it's easy to also flip the coffee into the portafilter, and use a distributor to flatten it. Adds like 5s maybe and coffee is consistent. Single shot (if you can actually get a good one, heavily dependent on beans) is ~10.2g mark, double 18.2g. Wouldn't be able to do the Express as I keep swapping beans, and I definitely would not wait 75s to steam milk, that's way too long. Cappuccino should take

[@Maciej_Rajewski]

And that's why Barista Pro is called "PRO". A certain level of knowledge and experience is required. But it comes quickly. Thanks for the comparison, I've been waiting for it. I am consistently delighted with the Barista Pro machine. Do you remember? I bought it thanks to your recommendation :-) But here, in Europe, it is known as Sage Barista Pro.

[@BoldBrandFlakes]

I chose the Pro over the Impress. Both are excellent machines but the 3 second heating time and more options of grinding is awesome for me. I am somewhat jealous of the tamping feature of the Impress though since it would make things cleaner but ultimately I’m glad I chose the Pro.

[@RichardoBrit]

Great comparison. I think the point about family being over or others in the household being able to use the Impress is a great point and a strong advantage. I got the Touch as it was on sale for less than the Pro. No regrets so far.

[@dvox0418]

May I ask where did you get The Touch when it was on sale less than The Pro??

[@RichardoBrit]

@@dvox0418 it was a national sale in the US - Amazon, Williams Sonoma (etc) had it

[@Velcrochicken1]

Just bought the impress. Currently using a separate machine and grinder and honestly sick of having to help everyone each morning, not to mention the extra clean up of separate grinders and manual tamping. I think the impress is a good trade off, you get some automation but close enough to the quality of buying a grinder and manual machine.

[@Alesini100]

Amazing video. Clear and concise information. Thank you so much! :D

[@markdecalmer2252]

Absolutly excellent reviews, thanks heaps for all the information.

[@TheEzgiRN]

I just got my Pro and I am new to Espresso making. It is very frustrating and now I am thinking of returning and getting the impress so it would be easier.. however I also want to learn how to make a nice Espresso. Thank you for the informative videos :))

[@OLG3]

Leaning toward the Impress because of the ease of use (and the cleanliness most importantly) for quick mornings and occasional guest use but I do also have the Smart Grinder Pro for my Precision Brewer. Thought process is that I mainly use the Impress for day to day use and as I inevitably go through the rabbit hole I can then transfer over to the Smart Grinder Pro for dosing and tamping if it ever got to that point.

[@jose09841]

Can you make a video comparing the Barista Touch Impress versus the Barista Pro. I heard the Touch Impress now has the Baratza grinder gears which are far superior to the ones in the Pro and it has a touch screen as well.

[@ghassab8026]

I ordered the pro last week thanks to your reviews. My main reason why is that it has OPV and fast heating

[@LifestyleLab_]

Enjoy the new machine!!

[@ghassab8026]

@@LifestyleLab_ sure I’ll once it arrives 😁

[@martingray8350]

Thank you so much for this video I’m new to coffee machines and this has made my decision making so much easier now much appreciated. Off to get the machine with trainer wheels

[@pacmanlives]

This was super helpful for me deciding on which unit to buy! I was leaning towards the Impress at first but having experience in making espresso's prior and wanting to play around and maybe upgrade to the Rocket or a similar machine a few years down the line I think the Pro is the best choice for me. Thank you!

[@zxcqweful]

Nice video! I have chabged my default internal grind size. What is default number.

[@Zoozahh]

So I have the impress but I'm thinking about getting the pro now. But I also kind of wanna go up to a profitec go? How much better is the next tier of espresso machines like the profitec go etc?

[@LifestyleLab_]

All depends on what grinder you pair with it Grinder > machine

[@alfredovazquez7857]

Love your explanations on the Barista machine. I have 2 questions: 1.- What kind of coffee you use that creates lot of brown crema on top?. 2.- I noticed that when steaming the milk for a prolong time the steam will stop flowing and milk won't be really hot.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Crema has very little to do with bean type and everything to do with freshness. Find a local roaster and buy beans that are two weeks or less off of roast and you’ll get piles of crema. Never buy coffee from the grocery store.

[@MrBaarszczu]

Great video, I like your style :) I have a general question as I'm starting with espresso machine (switching from automated Delonghi). You started your journey with Breville Barista Express. Over time you learned a lot and upgraded, also tested many machines. How would you compare espresso quality from Barista Expres or Pro to other prosumer machines with standalone grinder? Is the difference noticable for "normal human being"? I wonder if it is worth to jump directly to higher-end machine and grinder so not to juggle the equipmemnt. I want thermoblock machine and end of day what counts is simple workflow and great espresso. My choice for now is steup of Ascaso Steel PID with Fiorenzato Allground, but just wonder how much more of quality will I get of this setup in comparison to All in One Breville Barista Pro. Would it be like taking to another level or rather adding additional 10-20% to quality. I'm looking for a set-up for years (I know there is learning curve) and don't want to make equipment changes after 1 year. At the begining I'm sure I will play with brewing, but longterm I think I'll be just doing a quick coffee with regular workflow (not single dosing, no scale use, just as easy as in cafe - grind, tamp, brew). I hope you can help with comment on your experience.

[@LucaxTellex]

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[@karim2589]

Hi, my wife is a beginner, do you think she will be able to use the barista pro after I set it up for her for daily espresso/cappuchino use?

[@LifestyleLab_]

If she’s will to learn a little bit of puck prep and tamping. If not, the Impress may be the better option

[@lukebradica4042]

I just watched your video on dialling in the Breville Barista Pro and it helped a lot but then I got a little confused when reading the comments. You mentioned in the comments that the video doesn't apply for pre-infusion shots but aren't all Breville Barista Pro shots pre-infusion?

[@LifestyleLab_]

How to Time Espresso Shots | Button Push or First Drip? kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2qwmqSFf8mqhsU

[@noemibravo3130]

I am a beginner in wanting to learn how to make good coffee. I am debating with which one to get. I am willing to learn the nitty gritty to get the shot right. I will not just use the machine for myself, but I always have friends and family over who look forward to coffee. What would be the best one?

[@LifestyleLab_]

If you’re willing to learn proper puck prep and use WDT, I’d go with the Pro

[@noemibravo3130]

@@LifestyleLab_ one question then in that case, what is better? Express or Pro?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Pro, as it has much superior steaming performance, more grind steps, and updated build quality

[@noemibravo3130]

@@LifestyleLab_ thank you so much!!

[@ZomBeatBrainZ]

I’m a sucker for the pressure gauge. It would be nice to have it on the pro or some kind of indicator on the screen.

[@adi2082]

Could you do a video about dialling in a light roast on the Barista Pro?

[@OneIdeaTooMany]

I guess we'll have to wait for the Breville Barista Express Impress Pro for more features. They really need better naming

[@belavet]

I wish the express impress allowed for manual tamping if you wanted to. As it stands, you'd need a separate grinder. We have had the pro almost three years and LOVE it. My mom lives with us now and isn't confident doing all the tamping, but the self tamping deal would work really well for her.

[@LifestyleLab_]

An Express Impress without the built in tamper is just the base Barista Express :)

[@aldeen1982]

The barista pro is a really capeable machine! Looks nice and produces good tasting espresso and the steam wand is way better!!! Please go for the Barista Pro. Its an totally easy to use machine, and once you got the ideal grind size, its really easy. But attention here: The grinder on the barista pro (and I´m sure its almost the same on the new barista express) is not that good. The variation from shot to shot is to big.

[@rajpatel4542]

Doesn't the Breville Pro also have auto grind & dose? Besides the built-in tamping feature on the Impress, how does it have an advantage on dosing if the Pro also has an automatic option?

[@LifestyleLab_]

All grinders will have timed grind adjustment. The problem with timed adjustment is that your dose can vary from shot to shot based on how full the hopper is, and what grind setting you’re at. This system on the Impress actively checks each shot to avoid these inconsistencies, as well as the added tamping help

[@rajpatel4542]

@@LifestyleLab_ Oh I see, thank you!

[@riteshkhandelwal5129]

Hi, thanks for your great reviews! Any thoughts on Sage Oracle vs DeLonghi La Specialista Maestro? The Maestro comes with a fast cold brew option which I find attractive but not sure how it compares with coffee quality, ready to brew time etc., of the Oracle

[@LifestyleLab_]

Oracle is head and shoulders above the La Specialista Maestro in terms of espresso quality and steaming quality. No contest

[@coachsaurav]

Thanks for the detailed comparison. But considering all things equal would the Pro pull a better espresso shot than the impress?

[@LifestyleLab_]

With proper puck prep, yes, due to the improved burrs in the grinder and smaller grind steps

[@live_emulator]

if you're making good consistent espresso in the impress, how much better can your espresso taste with the perfect dial in the pro?

[@LifestyleLab_]

The benefit in the Pro is the better burrs in the grinder. So better quality from that and if you do proper puck prep could be noticeable with a straight shot of espresso. Mixed with milk? Probably not

[@unimetrica]

I got the Pro, but the power cord is not retractable unlike what’s shown here. Did I miss anything? Or is there some tricks that need to be done to make the cord retractable? 🤔

[@anthonytorgerson4175]

Great video. Still trying to decide what machine to get for my fist espresso machine. I am considering one of these 2, the Diletta Mio, or Flair 58. I do have a milk frother. It will just be for me, most likely on the weekends till I learn how to make my own shots. Which machine would you recommend for someone like me. Thanks.

[@LifestyleLab_]

For just espresso, and if you have a very capable grinder, go with the Flair. If you’re going to be making any lattes though (frother or not) go with the Mio. No frother can beat real silky steamed milk :)

[@anthonytorgerson4175]

@LifestyleLab_ Thanks. So both of these are better then the breville? I am willing to learn and love my coffee. Would the new 1zpresso ultra hand grinder work for just a single person espresso grinder?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes, better than a Breville assuming you pair with a great grinder as well. The 1ZPresso can do it, just be aware that hand grinding for espresso is a LOT of work

[@anthonytorgerson4175]

@@LifestyleLab_ What would you recommend for a good grinder for just me to pair with the Flair 58?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Niche Zero’s conicals are a good match, or something like a DF64. Nothing crazy low-fines

[@alastairclarke]

Really good video. Very clear. Great explanations. Love the bike analogy! THUMBS UP!

[@gailoakley4010]

Great comparison review. Thank you!

[@Nyny_en]

Thank you so much for the explanation Bro👍

[@ThePrestoul]

Thank you for this great video! Helps me make the right decision

[@ntprofman]

Another excellent review. Your shirt matches the Barista Pro. Subliminal messaging?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Aha, always need to pay attention to the shirts ;)

[@kimbridge5592]

can you still use the express impress manually. if you want to play around with your coffee or add a little more.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yup :) The grind can be put in manual dosing mode, and I have a video on how to do your own puck prep etc if you like

[@ArneVanhove]

I saw somewhere that you could buy a accessory for the impress that you are still able to make a manual espresso. Any idea? It made it possible to remove the puck without spilling the coffee you just grinded.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Puck Prep on Breville Impress Machines! kzbin.info/www/bejne/boq4mZubmtZ4b8U

[@ArneVanhove]

@@LifestyleLab_ wow, thanks for your quick response! This gives me options!

[@LimitedWard]

Does the impress come with the upgraded grinder of the pro?

[@LifestyleLab_]

It has more grind steps than the Express, but still not quite as many as the Pro

[@Ninjaxdemi09]

What is grind amount and how does that affect the shot you pull? The main factors is dose, grind size and time but the grind amount is really throwing me up and it’s only the breville that has that setting.

[@kezby2k]

Can I ask please how you’d rate the impress vs the touch for a newbie? I’m willing to learn, but there’s pros and cons for both. Impress makes things simple for the assisted tamping, but slower heat up and less customisation puts me off. The touch seems like it has so much more in the way of features but is an older model, right? One is on sale where I live, so the difference in price isn’t so steep (impress and pro = 740 dollars, touch = 920 dollars). I keep changing my mind between them!

[@LifestyleLab_]

The difference between the Impress and the Touch will be almost identical to this video. The Touch has the fast heating system from the Pro, but also with some added programmability and automatic milk texturing

[@kezby2k]

Thanks - so would you recommend the touch? Ordinarily the price difference would make my mind up alone! Is the touch ok for beginners with some time to devote to it?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Breville Barista Touch Review | Do you need a screen? kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXfQqWiVo7OqrMk

[@jasonmountjoy9969]

Great video!! Thank you

[@fotospatinaje]

Your video was very helpful Thank you 🙏

[@robertebob]

My starter machine was the regular Barista Express. I now have the Pro. There was no assisted dosing/tamping when I began home brewing. You had to learn. With so many reviews and ‘how to’ videos I think it’s best to get the Pro. You going to make newbie mistakes on either one so get the better machine.

[@VincentAmari]

Do you miss the pressure gauge?

[@robertebob]

@@VincentAmari I thought I would but now I’m comfortable with timing and weighing the shot. So I’m good with 25-30 second shots for 36 grams with 18 gram dose. I only do manual shots. I don’t like using the volumetric buttons.

[@emmacao3166]

Does it mean the pressure is good if your coffee flow speed looks not too fast or too slow given that Pro doesn’t have a way to check on the pressure?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes, flow rate is a much better indicator than pressure. Always dial in to taste

[@ZomBeatBrainZ]

Hoping it goes on sale for BF or CM

[@163andyc]

Heating up time is really not important as the machines should be left for longer to get everything warmed up, at least that's what I've learned watching videos here. I have an Impress and I'm pleased with it.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Unfortunately leaving the newer thermojet Brevilles on does not warm up the group head. So blank shots are required.

[@exploration_coffee]

Great comparison! Thanks!

[@FandyMSaputra]

is it worth $400-500 diffrence price upgrade? or save it for better grinder?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Only real difference is the convenience, and the faster steaming of the Pro. Need to decide what your priority is :)

[@fernandomanrique5406]

Just what I wanted to know. Let's go for the mountain bike. Thank you!

[@arge12]

You did not mentioned anything in regards to the grinders? does the pro have a better grinder ?

[@ghassab8026]

Same grinder but the pro has more steps in between the grind settings

[@arge12]

@@ghassab8026 how does it compared to the breville smart grinder pro? Trying to decide wether to go with a barista pro or a breville infuser with the smart grinder pro

[@ghassab8026]

@@arge12 i believe that the smart grinder is close to the pro if not the same. but id recommend you to get the pro since it has 9 bar extraction, preprogrammed pre-infusion and heats up faster. it has these advantages over the infuser, express and express impress.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Grinders are the same. I did mention this briefly, but didn’t go into details because, well, they’re the same :)

[@johnradford2258]

Very succinct and clearly helpful analysis. Much appreciated!

[@dnk770]

thoughts on leveled calibrated tampers? cyber monday i got a breville baristo pro - the gear I'm aiming for is dosing funnel WDT tool and I'm stuck between palm tamper, or the new style leveling calibrated tamper I find i am bad at leveling, but if i have a WDT tool, do i need both a distributer AND calibrated tamper? or can i skip the distributer?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Skip the distributor, WDT is far far more useful and distributes at the same time. Calibrated vs palm tampers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqGZmYemo5xla5o

[@walthervanstipriaan818]

Trying to find any reviews that compares noise levels. I have the Express bought 3-4 years ago and that thing is LOUD. If you make coffee at 5am this thing is crazy. Like earthquake crazy… When I saw the Breville Oracle in action and how quiet it was I knew I needed a diff Breville, so I am trying to find a diff Breville with much less noise. And maybe not $2500,- Can anybody please help me? Many thanks..

[@LifestyleLab_]

Unfortunately the noise levels of all the grinders are pretty much the same. That will go for almost all grinders under I’d say $500

[@walthervanstipriaan818]

@@LifestyleLab_ thank you! If I want to buy basically a bean to coffee / espresso machine and make the milk seperate. Which machine would you advise with low noise levels? Great channel!

[@LifestyleLab_]

Bean to cup is a tough thing. If you go to a super automatic, you sacrifice a lot of quality. The Oracle walks the line of convenience and quality, but is super expensive. Invest in something like a Niche Zero grinder and Diletta Mio and you’ll be very happy you did

[@walthervanstipriaan818]

@@LifestyleLab_ thank you very much.. Sorry last question. If the quality isn’t the most important (we make latte’s), what machine would you choose with low noise levels?

[@LifestyleLab_]

A Breville Bambino Plus and pre-ground coffee, haha The grinding is what is loud on cheaper units, not the machine itself. Eventually you can invest in a quiet grinder, or just continue with pre-ground coffee if you’re happy with the quality

[@javieralba3]

Can you recommend a machine half the size that can be compare to Brville pro please

[@LifestyleLab_]

That doesn’t really exist. Breville’s Bambino machines are fantastic and very slim, but you’ll then require an external grinder

[@hansloes1601]

@Lifestyle Lab Iwas wondering the same though. A Bambino plus and a niche grinder would end up at a similar price point. Or would recommend a different machine then (or still stick with a pro)?

[@StreakFreeOrDie]

Great videos! Do you have a video on your favorite machines in this price point? Breville is big name in the game, but what other machines do you recommend?

[@LifestyleLab_]

In terms of an all in one with a built in grinder, Breville can’t really be beat at the moment. If you want to buy a separate espresso grinder, machines like the Gaggia Classic Pro, or Profitec GO are my go to recommendations

[@ThorMaxx]

So I wonder, if they came out with the barista express impress, I wonder if Breville will release a barista pro impress. Something to think about…

[@LifestyleLab_]

I have no idea, but my gut says that’s not a machine they’ll put out. It would cannibalize both the Express Impress and Pro

[@dannymcneal]

Excellent comparison! I had my eye on the Impress (though I’m not fond of that shiny plastic cover) because it was newer, but this video convinced me to drool over the Pro. Question: I know that Breville makes a brushed stainless steel version, but what is the skin of the blue version made of? It looks like plastic. Thank you!!

[@LifestyleLab_]

It is a painted finish. Still a metal shell

[@dannymcneal]

@@LifestyleLab_ - Thank you, sir! I just ordered the blue version.

[@rajpatel4542]

@@dannymcneal Do you think the Pro is a better machine for the long-run compared to the impress? Having trouble deciding especially because the prices are so similar right now.

[@ibrahimboshihri1385]

I want to ask does the express has pre infusion?

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes it does

[@ibrahimboshihri1385]

@@LifestyleLab_ thank you for your help .. I will order it now

[@parkaros6980]

Great video! I’m a new subscriber and have been watching a lot of Your videos on machine comparisons because I am in the market for an entry level machine. Love all the information you’ve provided and also your style of Very clearly explaining everything! Quick question: in terms of shot quality only .. how would you compare the Barista express/infuser to the Flair 58 ? I’ve watched your videos on both machines and I know you love the flair and speak highly of the Barista 8 series in general. But In a direct comparison for just espresso quality .. How would you rate them ? Can the express produce a very good quality shot in your opinion - one that might compare to the flair 58? I have a very good hand grinder so that’s not something I have to worry about. And I plan to equip either of the machines with the same after market accessories such as tampers, VST/IMS baskets , etc. PS: the GCP is a great Option too based on your reviews, but I’m hesitant because of the amount of modding that is required compared to the breville (PID, pre infusion, etc). Cheers !

[@LifestyleLab_]

If you JUST want espresso, the Flair 58 cannot be beat for the price. End of story for me. If you want a fully functioning espresso machine (steaming, programmable shots, etc) the ones you’ve mentioned are all good options :)

[@parkaros6980]

@@LifestyleLab_ thank you for the quick reply ! I primarily care about JUST espresso but the steam functionality is a minor consideration. If the espresso is atleast comparable between the Flair and the Barista, I’d probably go with the Express just because I have the option to steam. However, If the espresso quality on the Flair is on another level altogether then I’ll go Flair. So keeping that in mind.. do you think the Barista compares to the Flair 58 in terms of Espresso quality?

[@LifestyleLab_]

It compares, but there is a noticeable difference from a lever system. Just something you can’t achieve on a pump machine. Also keep in mind, the 58 requires you to grind very fine, even finer than a standard espresso machine, so this might be a tough ask of your hand grinder… If any steaming is desired, go with the Barista. I’ve seen many people say they’ll get a stovetop steamer or something to go with the Flair, but end up being unhappy with the workflow and regret the decision

[@parkaros6980]

@@LifestyleLab_ okay that helps a LOT! Thank you so much for the help and the super quick reply. I’ve been trying to read and watch videos to understand the differences between these machines specifically, but the way you put it above has been the most helpful so thank you :) Looking forward to more content !

[@afmg52]

Thanks a lot for the video! I wanted to buy an espresso machine and ended up buying a bike, lol

[@ergilspronk7886]

Not the same grinder, pro had an update

[@LifestyleLab_]

Only later on in production years. At launch and even up to recently, the Pro was shipping with the same burrs.

[@VincentAmari]

Shame that they don't also include pressure within the LCD display.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Once you learn about espresso, you realize that a pressure gauge is not a critical component whatsoever, unless your machine has adjustable pressure or flow control. (Which these do not)

[@VincentAmari]

@@LifestyleLab_ sure, I get that, but even so many agree it is a useful and immediate visual indicator that helps understand what's happening. 🤔😊

[@HenryFederer]

the advantage of Impress to most of ppl is probably the disadvantage since dialing in your espresso machine is a big fun, I believe. Very good video and I learnt a lot watching all videos here.

[@quiettornado1970]

What about the shutting it off?

[@LifestyleLab_]

I’m not sure I understand the question

[@donaldlippert6374]

The color of your T-shirt may be an unconscious tip toward the mountain bike!! 😂😂

[@LifestyleLab_]

Or was it conscious? 😏

[@elqord.1118]

If the pro came with a pressure gauge instead of the lcd display I’d buy it in a heart beat

[@LifestyleLab_]

A brew pressure gauge serves very little purpose. Maybe professional machines don’t have them either. The pump will always operate at a fixed flow rate and pressure as determined by the OPV. A completely choked shot or a good shot will look identical on a pressure gauge. Dialling in and determination of a good shot should be done through flow rate, and of course, taste!

[@elqord.1118]

@@LifestyleLab_ 100% understood, thank you for that detailed reply. For me however there is also an aesthetic factor. That display looks cheap and makes it look much more like some kitchen appliances. The Express has a much more timeless look and yes the pressure gauge is a huge contributor to that

[@LifestyleLab_]

@elqord.1118 can’t argue with that! Love me an analog gauge

[@eliyahoubenaim7973]

How would you qualify the built-in grinder? I am looking into the pro, but have read reviews that the grinder isn't great. I am considering also getting a separate semi automatic + grinder combo ( like a gcp/rancilio + turin/eureka) ? Thank you

[@the_viper_leo]

Not sure where you are in the espresso world, but I had the same thoughts as you (except back then there was no Turin!). I was deciding on the pro or the rancilio+eureka specialita. Eventually, I got the Pro and subsequently upgraded my grinder to Atom 75. I can't say from experience but I've been watching/reading a lot of other reviews and I would say I'm glad I got the Pro. This is due to the most important factor on how quick it is to transition from brew to steam, almost instantly - this is a game changer. I make milk-based drinks for a few family members so I find that important. I think the GCP, rancilio have a long wait time but I also know it is a faster steamer but I've seen comparisons of time and the Pro is still quicker overall start to finish steaming. tbh, I'm not sure what else would beat the Pro at this price point though I now have a redundant built-in grinder.

[@eliyahoubenaim7973]

@@the_viper_leo I actually never had an espresso machine and I am thinking of buying my first one now. The only reasoning I have is that I would probably like to keep it for some time and have something of quality. not sure yet of the bet option thanks for your input

[@eliyahoubenaim7973]

the other option, is to get a smaller breville (like a bambino) and a good separate grinder. So many options, I don't know what would be most efficient and good in the long run

[@alexandraengland3274]

@@eliyahoubenaim7973 you'll almost certainly want a separate grinder eventually. Whether you feel like getting the built-in grinder to start is up to you.

[@the_viper_leo]

@@eliyahoubenaim7973 I also had that in mind but I thought that the bambino might not be built as well as the pro but I understand that the insides are very similar.

[@vandnasaini4661]

Nice presentation

[@SunJao]

Breville just announced the the Barista Touch Impress is coming soon to the U.S., which has been available in Australia for a few months at least. Would you be able to do a review of the newest Barista offering? I'm wondering how it stacks up! Thank you!

[@LifestyleLab_]

Stay tuned! It will be the same as our comparison between the Barista Pro and Barista Touch, except with the tamping system from the Impress :) So it will have the faster steaming, and automatic steaming found on the Touch (which we also have a video on)

[@estershintar3538]

obviously they’re not 50k machines like Starbucks or other coffee places have but they are good coffee machines and make good coffee in general.

[@Imabanana847]

No thermojet on the Impress is disappointing. That 3-second heat-up time absolutely slaps when you're in a bit of a morning rush before work.

[@LifestyleLab_]

Agreed, a very odd decision from Breville for a new machine to not use the newest heating system

[@dentonarthur2315]

3 seconds is not life changing🤣

[@LifestyleLab_]

The steaming transition speed and steaming power is though

[@kaiweitze5899]

I had bought the impress weeks ago. Dialing in was a pain, i can't get a decend shot.... Always sour. I tried a lot and bought a bottomless portafilter. Using this i became aware of the channeling the impress produces. It's due to the direct tamping after the grinding without beeing able to level the coffee in the basket. I haven't found a solution for this problem and had always channeling, so i returned the impress and bought the Pro. So now i'm able to prep my puck by myself and get much better results as with the impress.... Also the much better steaming on the Pro is quite a big argument and makes it much easier to steam the milk!

[@Zoozahh]

So you like the pro better? I just got an impress last week and have time to exchange still.

[@Zoozahh]

Can't you just manual grind on the impress as well?

[@kaiweitze5899]

@@Zoozahh for me the PRO is working much better! I have full control with my own puck prep. I'm able to use the wdt tool, a distributor and my own tamper to make my puck even and polished. Tamping directly after grinding on the impress produced channelling as i said. Also steaming is a lot more easier with the Pro imo...!

[@Zoozahh]

@@kaiweitze5899 yeah I think I'm gonna swap out my impress for the pro tomorrow. Awesome thanks for input!

[@Zoozahh]

@@kaiweitze5899 can you tell what kind of pressure bars are pushing out on the pro?

[@singularity844]

"Pressure gauge not neccesity" 4:50 WTF 🤣. It's literally everything. It'll literally tell you whether you're going to get crema or brown water.

[@LifestyleLab_]

You can get the exact same information from the flow rate of the shot. Many very high end machines don’t have pump pressure readings… it’s not a necessity at all.

[@singularity844]

@@LifestyleLab_ the flow rate doesn’t have a dial on my barista express

[@LifestyleLab_]

Flow rate is determined by the grind size :)

[@singularity844]

@@LifestyleLab_ but pressure has a gauge. And based on what you see you adjust the grind size and/or puck quantity. Which correlates exactly with espresso quality. You’re not making any sense

[@singularity844]

@@LifestyleLab_ also drip coffee have a low flow rate but don’t produce good espresso. Pod coffee has a high flow rate, but also have shit espresso. I think this is a hint that it’s about pressure.

[@estershintar3538]

Ya and the digital is an issue for some people because it is digital will break faster and will have more issues

[@denardiente2050]

So the Breville Barista Pro is good for start up coffee shop right?

[@TheOneLin3]

Thanks for the good video's every time 🙏 Barista pro or profitec go ? It's been 6 months now that I stoped buying nespresso pads (been ordering nespresso for 30y now), and completely switched over to only bialetti. To start the learning curve off grinding (that was also lots of coffee in the drain), learning to brew slowly with it, then the use of putting a paper filter to it.... So now it's time to move up... The barista express, is like you said... Easy in the beginning, but boring when you want to put some effort in to it. Coffee making is like cooking, you put love in to it. So I'm looking at Barista pro and the profitec go... (never use a steamer, machine is pure for espresso making) 🤔 Greets from Belgium 🙏

[@LifestyleLab_]

If you can afford an excellent grinder and the Profitec GO that will be a great combo that would outclass this, as it should for the price. However, you will be giving up a lot of “convenience” features like the water spout, programmable shot volumes, etc… The Barista Pro as an overall package is considerably cheaper when you take into account a grinder to go with the Profitec.

[@TheOneLin3]

@@LifestyleLab_ thanks for your answer. The grinder I have, not the most conventional one (the one from 'kitchenaid') but with more then 70 size choices... Think I'm OK here 😉 Think the profitec is the winner 🙈

[@LifestyleLab_]

You'll want to upgrade that grinder eventually to do the Profitec justice, but glad you've decided on a starting point. Enjoy!!

[@MsMonterrey2]

Why am I watching this if I have NO plans to buy one anytime soon 😂

[@LifestyleLab_]

Probably for the handsome host?

[@REMY.C.]

Nice comparison. I still prefer a separate grinder/machine setup. I had the Breville/Sage grinder and the Infuser and I learned so much with those.

[@deant6627]

I guess if your busting for a dump in the morning that extra 1min of steaming time could feel like an hour 😁

[@Paul_1927]

Still with the impress I get uneven extraction because I can’t really wdt. It just tamps as it falls in the basket so that’s pretty bad. And it hangs so low that u can’t even get a cup underneath

[@LifestyleLab_]

Interesting, I never had an issue with shot consistency (which surprised me)

[@PAD32]

The Barista Pro looks like a clear winner to me. A super automatic machine will have all the listed advantages of the Impress, but it will be even easier to use, you don't need to clean the portafilter, etc.. That make me wonder who is the target for the Impress, I don't really see the point of this machine

[@LifestyleLab_]

A super automatic will not be able to produce the quality of shot you can get from the Barista Express Impress. The machine is meant for those who want CLOSE to the convenience of a super auto, but better shot quality and steaming

[@erebuxy]

lol I just know my machine has retractable cord. So amazing

[@Gavin-Emma]

Great review - Thanks! Just a quick question for anyone that knows: Is the Sage Barista Pro EXACTLY the same as the Breville version? I live in Europe so I can only get Sage here. Thank you in advance!

[@LifestyleLab_]

Yes, exact same company

[@Gavin-Emma]

@@LifestyleLab_ Thank you!

[@cjlopAfe]

I decided my machine by “bike” analogy; I never used assisting wheels so I am prepared to fall flat on my face 😅

[@mryoyo7741]

Is the group head has heating ?

[@LifestyleLab_]

No, only the Dual Boiler and Oracle group heads are actively heated.

[@VodkaRLG]

Never again buying a breville of any kind... Only over a year of use the inner screws that tighten the collar became lose and there's no one yo fix that...

[@Andrew-wp1bz]

I’m not waiting 45 seconds for my machine to heat up.

[@LifestyleLab_]

That would be ABSURD!

[@sweetslasherart]

❤

[@johnnybernhardpedersen6172]

Of course it is sponsered!

[@LifestyleLab_]

How

[@willpoeppelmeyer2063]

Don’t be so biased with choice of shirt!