The VESSEL Vs. Kris

[@krisspychissp]

The fact that they made this in scratch is the most surprising thing about this fangame

[@morpheus0675]

Thank you!

[@_SparkHere]

Don't underestimate the simple kids programming language.

[@morpheus0675]

@@_SparkHere It's not about the tool. It's about how you decide to use it. You can have the best tool in the market, but that's worth nothin' if you can't use it, am I right?

[@morpheus0675]

@@goldeningot Yeah, that's my point.

[@EvilGnarp]

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[@morpheus0675]

I see it, yet I do not believe it. My hands tremble as I type this. I CANNOT thank you enough for playing my game. Really. I put my very SOUL into this little concept that had been flyin' around in my mind for a while, and I still cannot believe that people have played it. I truly did not expect you to play it, too. Thanks. Bit off-topic, but I also think your theories are pretty cool, and they make a lot sense.

[@morpheus0675]

Also, I might/might not be working on something new... Except I might not be alone this time. Won't say much, but it could/could not be my take on future events.

[@morpheus0675]

@Chiara Salutations.

[@averagegenzguy2751]

@@morpheus0675 nice

[@ginniegill1026]

!!!!!!

[@Rubiish_Axel]

This game was awesome! In Scratch too?? WOW!! I really wanna write more but, I don’t know what to write. I’ve made my point.

[@krisspychissp]

kris: you’re going to die! kris’ attacks at the beginning: … extremely eazy

[@Dark_Slayer3000]

At least more complicated than a _singular slash_ wich darkners somehow can't dodge 😂.

[@mishagaming1075]

@@Dark_Slayer3000 They don't have a soul though, maybe the SOUL gives the ability to dodge?

[@TruthfullPain]

@@mishagaming1075sans can dodge but doesn’t have a soul.

[@eeee2364]

@@TruthfullPain what

[@TruthfullPain]

@@eeee2364 holy god damn it, I had to be drunk when saying that because sans has a monster soul I’m so god damn dumb

[@n0dash18]

I think it most messed up thing you could do is play through the Weird Route version, proceed right up until the Vessel holds up their sword, and then pick “Do Not.” That is the single biggest “screw you” they could possibly give to Kris. You shrug off their impassioned yelling about how you’ve ruined their friends’ lives, beat them about an inch away from death, made them beg for their life complete with tears, and then just… silently and disinterestedly walk away. Like a cat that broke a mouse’s spine and decided it wasn’t hungry. It’s like saying “Yeah, I’m not possessing you anymore, but that doesn’t mean you’re in control at all, and it doesn’t make you matter any more than you did before. Honestly, you’re expendable now.” I do wonder what Kris would do after that. Hell, what would the Vessel do? They’re basically a god with their RESET abilities, and with no Kris or Chara-like entity to inhibit them in any way (although maybe Gaster might hold some influence over them), they’re absolutely free to turn the world into their own consequence-free playpen. That is, depending on what happens to them in the Light World, since best-case scenario, they become some random gray teenager that literally appeared from nowhere. And has a voice that would sound familiar to anyone Kris has spoken to (particularly Noelle).

[@Dark_Slayer3000]

There's always a way to be more cruel... I love seeing more creativity on the pacifist storylines though, much more uplifting and less messed up :) ❤

[@pustota7254]

Saying what will vessel do is quite stupid, since we control it..

[@pustota7254]

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[@dwerical]

This is such a unique fan game honestly. I do believe that in the near future we will encounter our creation since it makes no sense that after such a long process of creating the vessel it just gets discarded just for us to learn a painful lesson. It could be possible that one day we might get to use the vessel since it is a possibility that Kris might be able to resist our control one day

[@CheddarCheeseRebirthed]

"After such a long process of creating" This is bob, he is bald and has phase 5 cancer, his favorite taste is pain and he's selfish. I pressed Z rapidly to make him

[@athens5664]

@@CheddarCheeseRebirthed For real, lmao. I think it would make more sense if we as the player spent any significant amount of time with it, but as it is, you spend MAYBE 15-ish minutes in the character creator (and that's only if you're playing day 1 or otherwise didn't know Gaster/whoever throws your OC in the trash). Hardly a "long process" imho

[@childeofepickness]

totally a theory I just came up with on the spot and it probably doesn’t have any validity to it, but what if the knight is our vessel?

[@thepurpleperson3765]

I honestly think this will happen, since the game saves the vessel we make, but what I’m not sure about is why the game doesn’t make us make a vessel when we start a save from chapter 2, it just asks for ‘your own name’.

[@thepurpleperson3765]

@@TheGrammarNazi123 ik lol it’s just the only point of evidence that the vessel will come into play later on (if you don’t count the thrash machine potentially being kind of a ‘practice project’ to get used to coding special attacks and dialouge for a customizable enemy, but that’s just my personal theory)

[@morpheus0675]

Totally forgot to say, if you have any questions about the lore surrounding this fangame, please do ask! You have got no idea how hard it is to actually talk to people about DELTARUNE where I'm from. Here's a hint: impossible, for literally no one has played it, so I'm kinda pumped.

[@gabrote42]

I liked that PLAYER took the stance they did. Have you read The Determinators' Tumblr? I use it as my main source on things, and it's very complete.

[@morpheus0675]

@@gabrote42 No and you've just discovered me something wonderful. I'll take a look at it in a couple minutes time. Thanks bucko.

[@gabrote42]

@@morpheus0675 Happy to help, good sir. If you want highlights I have a doc that spans back 100 or so pages, otherwise enjoy reading (I recommend you pick a spot like 90 pages back and read forwardsif you want the latest in Kris characterization and friendship awareness). Have an amazing day, dude :D

[@morpheus0675]

@@gabrote42 Thanks. Same for you, buddo.

[@jaccrabtree5019]

What chapter is this meant to take place in?

[@cheres_strn]

This game is amazing, I like that part when the text says "E" during the fight lmao

[@morpheus0675]

I dunno why that happens.

[@kri4412]

@@morpheus0675 keep it there but make it just a one in 129m chance to get it lmao

[@morpheus0675]

@@kri4412 I tried to directly eliminate it, but it seems to be an engine problem.

[@khyen]

Maybe you're hitting the 300 clone limit? ​@@morpheus0675

[@CuteRedPanda64]

Hope in the game we either see our vessels and fight them, or play as our vessels.

[@childeofepickness]

I hope our vessel will at least be mentioned in some way or hinted at

[@vevesumi]

its neat seeing the ghostly companions moving and reacting to you. noelle's little glance down as she helps kris attack for example.

[@nocaps2763]

21:10 Relax, the Vessel is just making sure Kris’ lifeless corpse doesn’t come back for a phase 2

[@timetraveler_from_2012]

Kris's dead body starts to rise while "An Enigmatic Encounter" plays "Now it's time for me to get serious." *teleports behind you "nothing personell kid" Then begins a fight so attrociously difficult that you need TAS software to finish it, ending with an attack which kills you if you get any number except for 32 on a random percentage generator

[@Stoopid420]

​@@timetraveler_from_2012 Sans: *wipes tear* I'm so proud

[@youraveragemobileundertale2371]

​@@Stoopid420chara from siblings redemption:

[@maila319]

69 likes wow

[@Unknown2Stuff]

Ending 1, Acceptance Ending 2, Power Ending 3, Betreyal Ending 4, Dominace. (Listed in order of how he did it.)

[@maila319]

How is ending 4 dominance though?

[@Mrsir529]

@@maila319you just beat Kris within an inch of their life and walked away like nothing happened

[@Spamkromite]

Well, that was an interesting well written script nonetheless. It's pretty well done actually. The fandom is sometimes kind of surprising with the things it can do, but I like the good surprises over the awful stuff. Ah, how much long till Chapter 3, 4 and 5?

[@morpheus0675]

A while. Until then, I'll be workin' sporadically on my fun, little, takes on DT's future.

[@MAXIMUMPOWER42]

@@morpheus0675 Wanna hear one of my takes? I think that every secret boss item like jevilstail and dealmaker with be very useful in the final secret boss.

[@morpheus0675]

@@MAXIMUMPOWER42 That actually seems pretty interesting. I'll be honest, I'm certain we're gonna need all of those sweet armor and weaponry later in the game. Just think of it as a Chekhov's Gun.

[@mihaitavraciu2248]

​@@MAXIMUMPOWER42 What you just said made me realise something, you know how CH7 is the last chapter, and there's 6 other chapters, much like how we can have 6 armour slots at one time (2 per party member)? Yeah well I think the final secret boss fight will involve each of our party members needing to have 2 of the 6 armors we'd get by SPAREing the 6 secret bosses.

[@PokemonRebornFan]

Some fangames that have red attacks, as you stated either instakill or more damage, but there's a few that take away your max HP

[@pugsriel]

"Side B" Is the ingame name for the snowgrave route.

[@morpheus0675]

Exactly, that was the in-game name for it, if I am correct.

[@Vikt-vg8nz]

aka weird route

[@Holy-Tiramisu]

For her side special, noelle use snowgrave

[@okey664]

​@@Holy-Tiramisu"Watch what happens when i cast a spell i don't know" 🐦🧊

[@orionplayz69]

you should see if anything happens where you raise the sword up to kris, about to strike him, and then choose “do not.” it might be something interesting.

[@CAT-astrophical]

Thwts what i tough. It could be called the guilt route or something

[@CoolBlades525]

Toby should make the vessel the final boss in chapter 7 and they posses all possible attacks from every enemy and depending on the stuff you chose in chapter 1 for the vessel makes it easier or harder. For example, if you chose pain as it’s favorite food, every time you get hit the vessel gains the amount of damage you took as health.

[@TheAdvertisement]

While I'm not quite sure if this is how they'll act, I really like the idea of Kris being pissed off at the player and attacking once they manifest outside of Kris's body, and having to convince them to stop by telling them you didn't have a choice.

[@eruditonaranja27]

Just by skimming into this I was reminded of a head canon I was a lot into before. That Arthur (the name of my vessel) showed up before Kris as a warrior in red outfit and two thin swords. And he basically despises Kris for being a "weak" hero, yet gaining recognition; and, secretly, because he lost his only loved one, his grandmother, on a disaster, which hardened his heart greatly. This was surely based in that "vs the Fun Gang" fangame

[@allaniadall9686]

I made this story where three kids were playing a game and were so surprised when they realized that wasn't their vessel. Player two wrote a song to explain that his world was a video game.

[@TheAdvertisement]

That proceed scene is genuinely terrifying.

[@morpheus0675]

Thanks.

[@TheAdvertisement]

@@morpheus0675 Oh yo- didn't realize who you were at first lol, yw!

[@gabrote42]

5:13 I wonder if the dialogue will address all the measures Kris takes to make you say what they want in CH2. Or how they modify their tone 6:52 INTEGER OVERFLOW 9:20 OK, PLAYER read the archived tumblr posts. Lovely. Yes, pick Susie on the carnival dialog, not prank Noelle, give eggs, etc.

[@Scaryland42]

This is made in scratch? Impressive

[@morpheus0675]

Thank ye, thank ye.

[@hollowknightenjoyer]

I hate when people use the fact a game was made in scratch as criticism but cool vid

[@brawlfan]

love how max HP is 155/150. Hope they keep that for the sequel

[@morpheus0675]

...who knows with that dude? Boy, just look at the kinda sh*t they make. They probably outta their mind.

[@kri4412]

@@morpheus0675 aint you the creator 💀

[@morpheus0675]

@@kri4412 I am.

[@KirbY-su9yn]

In the proceed ending, the vessel should have ripped the players soul out and threw it into Kris.

[@dr.samuelsson3423]

Why? The Vessel is a far better vessel than Kris could ever be (at least for genociding).

[@morpekokid4262]

this is actually impressive cause programming undertale in scratch is really hard i once made a pretty short papyrus fight in scratch

[@TJ-gn4py]

banger thumbnail

[@Hutchgold]

I think this is a great idea , considering the teory that the roaring knight is the kris you wont control at the en of the chapters, in the final bátlle we would need the one who acts maybe the ves el would take the place of kris in a form at the end

[@KetsubanZero]

Side B is one of the official names of the snowgrave (weird) route

[@YearoYT]

I didn't even know this was made in Scratch until 5:26 That's hella impressive!

[@juiceice]

Y'know, I never thought the Vessel would be such a good battle!

[@user-dq4fz4vs9e]

ralsei: hey kris i have a gun. kris: no use a f*cking knife! susie: in my defense i already died. berdly: (muffeld screaming) lancer: guys.... SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!

[@OTFTYT]

seeing kris cry makes me feel empty and sad i literally cant

[@Mazerwolf]

I remember having a personal theory that the vessel is Chara or related to Chara, i don’t remember though

[@Unethical2023]

Same!

[@n0dash18]

Personally, I think they might be Frisk. While Frisk doesn’t perfectly fit the mold for a “blank slate” protagonist, they come pretty close, and with their lack of resistance in Undertale when it came to our actions, it would make sense if they were the original body intended to house the SOUL. Although this goes a bit into crack theory territory. I just think it’s interesting.

[@gavinff]

In the betrayal ending I had flashbacks of the alternate/Hikikomori route of OMORI

[@madchendernacht4155]

I think, that side B does mean route B, like another round instead of the main one and that fits the weird route

[@ceserslover8828]

At the end, where the vessel was holding the blade while walking 😂

[@emiliavalentino7226]

Had already seen this one some time ago,but i think it's good you played it too.

[@epiclucasgamer]

oh, you played this fangame nice

[@user-eu8tp2jo5b]

19:09 dude the teardrop made me upset and guilty

[@FROG_LORD14]

I hope the secret boss of chapter 7 is the vessel

[@ToonyPixl]

It's true that Kris had a life before the vessel came, and the reason why Kris takes possession of the vessel (player) at some points is because it'll prevent the player/vessel from controlling the main character.

[@jaxpot7775]

155/150 HP? Noice.

[@Lumberjack_king]

I really liked the ending of the pacifist ending here

[@sahilhossain8204]

Lore of The VESSEL Vs. Kris momentum 100

[@dendyxyz]

New theory - League of Legends, and how it connects to, "Beardley"

[@user-er6om3ul8v]

As a scratch coder I can tell you, this would take 2-3 months of coding and a few days of graphics and concept stuff

[@sunrise1077]

Amazing game! Sorry Mystic, I couldn't bring myself to watch the whole thing TwT, I just watched you play the pacifist route and said "Welp, that's all I need to see, no need to see the other endings yes, of course okay goodbye now!"

[@KuroUltJanembaGod]

Imagine this ends up being canon when Toby releases the last chapter of the Deltarune game? Considering, that Kris is self-aware that the soul thing is not his/her acting but the player

[@salimmusaoglu2033]

14:40 bro just said nuh uh to taking dmg and gained free tp 💀

[@ranting2daMAX]

This is actually INCREDIBLE for something made in scratch of all things. It is a little edgy, but I think that’s because we know little to nothing about Kris, so the creator just made something up.

[@morpheus0675]

Correct. Just to clear something up, I actually think Kris would act like that due to the situation they are in. Normally they wouldn't be that edgy.

[@arloklenczon6811]

anyone notice that how before you save, it's kris 's save file but when you save, it says PLAYER

[@morpheus0675]

Neat detail, dont'cha think?

[@No_oneasked109]

I have a theory about this fan game The reason why kris isn’t talking in deltarune is because while the outside world is happening these two (the vessel and kris) are fighting over who controls the body and while the vessel is fighting kris they are controlling kris too so after chapter one when this fight is done that’s the reason kris throws out the vessel (which is the heart/soul that you are controlling) and starts taking control of his own body (I just made something up because I wanted to and I wanted to try and make a theory)

[@kayplaya86]

I've seen in some fangames the red attacks take away from your max health (I believe only for the battle but it also might've been a single fight fangame so idk) which seems like a really cool concept because it's damage that you can't heal

[@allaniadall9686]

Kris: explain this two me! Player one: how do we explain that this world is a video game? Player two: I got an idea. Do you still have that guitar, three? Player three: plays a guitar. Player two: your world's a video game. Your world's a video game. Your world's a video game and this is how we have played. We didn't know that you were conscious. We thought you were our character. But still, I apologize at the bottom of my... ( and then something comes and hits her cutting her off)

[@morpheus0675]

Why's this thing so funny?

[@allaniadall9686]

@@morpheus0675 What thing? The video or the comment?

[@morpheus0675]

@@allaniadall9686 The comment. The video still makes me nervous to look at. Your comment's really good.

[@allaniadall9686]

@@morpheus0675 Thank you.

[@morpheus0675]

@@allaniadall9686 You're welcome.

[@boomgirlbucko]

What happens if you say "Do Not" _just_ before slicing Kris?

[@akanosakame]

Ironically, there are three ways to kill Kris and only one way to spare them and at the same time, it is even difficult to decide which of these methods of killing is the most cruel, because here you can: Attack the whole fight and eventually finish off approaching Kris while they are trying to somehow dissuade you, attack the whole fight and eventually leave them to slowly die of bleeding, the whole fight to gain confidence and eventually inflict the strongest attack while they are exhausted

[@georginaspence9105]

I think that the vessel is the knight we have made a body for the knight

[@floweytheflower5261]

Best Kris mugshot

[@Hyperboid]

0:40 I have never seen someone refer to the weird route as "Side B" aside from when talking about a certain file i forget the name of (that ends in _sideb)

[@fabitocreativito432]

21:00 bro pulled a Deltatraveler section 2 obli route

[@progCan]

8:03 nah i actually like those keyboard clacks, it is satisfying, idunno i think that call it "ASMR" or something? anyway, i like those keyboard clacks bro.

[@kayplaya86]

It'd be cool if they added the ability to customize the vessel to add some attacks (like how [SPOILER ALERT] the thrash machine gives you special attacks in the last fight)

[@Antiuttpsgdka]

ROULX KAARD SAY THIS IS APPROVED

[@Tweezers-]

i wonder what happens if in the side b run you proceed until the end but instead of killing kris you just press do not

[@rawquikh0ney710]

You can actually make good games with scratch. That's if the coding actually works and not bugs out with some things xd

[@morpheus0675]

You tellin' ME.

[@termicrafteron2794]

i am SEVERELY pissed, at the fact people don't know that the "weird route" is LITERALLY called Side B in the code, yet everyone still calls it that

[@Sansmann]

there is a fangame where you play as the vessel vs the fun gang

[@RAMOBUS]

i realized that it is not a bad hitbox for that first attack, the stars that it leaves can also damage you

[@anormalmonkey9702]

The keyboard is louder then the entire vid

[@vikizaruko6081]

Maybe we will Fight with Vessel in the Future

[@amogus2117]

Gaster son

[@darkspine6710]

there was another vessel vs kris but it got deleted by the creator (it was in kyf)

[@gamingrainbowandothers293]

Deltatravelwr Section 2 Obliteration Route be like (When he kills Kris after attacking)

[@-1_void]

Red attacks = Kris doing combo attack on you

[@florianabel5969]

In this Fangame you don't play as the Vessel. You Play on your own. The Player.

[@someoneontheinternet40]

Idk, but I feel like the Vessel we made is actually the player, or at least a part of us. I mean, why else would Kris literally look like the vessel we made? (Or heck maybe Kris is the vessel, which I can see that as an obvious one)

[@bradthompson5562]

The end could be a dark fountain because Kris is in his dark form

[@octaviusdrive]

i completely forgot that the vessel exists. is there a fan theory that the vessel could be the knight?

[@morpheus0675]

As a matter of fact, there is. I ain't familiar with it, though.

[@Ghosty2098]

I would say that Kris is your vessel ur the heart that's why when Kris rips it out you can't controll him

[@GUG3X]

Vessel Is YOU. The character(Vessel) in game is created by YOU. YOU control Kris. YOU make their choice. YOU ruin HIS and his FRIENDS' life.

[@XXisotopeXX]

Not if you do everything pacifist

[@nikolajthepig]

I really liked pacifist tho. Cus its so relatable. We came to "escape" from our world. Every time i play indie games like these i always feel more relaxed than ever. Its si nice to "escape" from school, work, my friends, my family and just everything and play some adventure games at night. I bet many other people can relate too.

[@Happyworldshark]

-then You find one of the secret bosses then you wanna throw your Nintendo switch

[@BC-CUTZ95]

I believe the Vessel is the knight, no joke.

[@pustota7254]

no the knight is Rouxlshiufvysuoail Kaaaardzfqwfiug or however his name is spelled

[@BC-CUTZ95]

@@pustota7254 You were close to spelling it, it's- FEARTH NOTETH MY LITTLE WORM, my great nameth is pretty difficulteth to many. But luckily for thou, I can helpeth thou. It's Rouxls - *GOD* *DAMNIT* THEY DIDN'T GIVETH ME ENOUGH ROOMETH TO SAYETH IT!!!

[@IcyBlueberry09]

I love this new vid!

[@epicstar86]

Soon you shall play CUSE when it gets released

[@zymen33]

hm, seems like a fun concept

[@KyleGK01]

I like the one where kris walks through a mirror better

[@Anime_catgirl_UWU]

holup vessel has 155/150 2:30

[@morpheus0675]

*damn you strong.

[@skeletonlover3214]

Seems pretty cool

[@Lumberjack_king]

Someone should make a fan game where the vessel was never discarded and kris was never controlled

[@lonecabin]

What if you choose do not at the last second

[@legacy5gd]

Bro summoned the gd community

[@perfectheartrainhadeles709]

"a useless vessel" couldn't imagine a better term for kris i really hope that at some point in deltarune we'll be able to abandon kris and use the vessel i don't like kris's rebelliousness

[@EloyKraYT]

5:59 be like: R u s h E

[@SammukaGames09]

That was amazing

[@TheBloodyHax]

scratch 😭

[@Makithe2nd]

Health at the beginning was 155/150

[@mariourielriosmontero9098]

I Wonder Toby fox add some of this great idea in the future :3

[@tpayne2807]

The edgy dialogue works here since it's just 2 kids trying to intimidate each other

[@porterbrown836]

it's side b because of scratch's stupid guidelines

[@TheImmortalMushroom]

Nah cause if the vessel has a sword like that I'm legally taking the development of this game, make Kris break free and be evil so that the vessel can be party leader with his EPIK pointy sword