Here's What a Tesla Model 3 Is Actually Like After 100,000 Miles

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Long-term Tesla Model 3 review after 4 years and 100,000 miles!
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0:00 Tesla Model 3 After 100K Miles
0:37 Model 3 Enjoyment
5:49 Model 3 Reliability
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9:49 Battery Life
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Even though it’s the slowest Tesla with just a single motor in the back, my Model 3 is still quicker than nearly every other car I come across while driving. I love only driving with one pedal for the majority of the time since the car automatically brakes when I let off the accelerator which not only helps feed energy back into the battery and improve range but it also prevents wear & tear. As much as I love software updates, as an owner I’m at the mercy of Tesla software engineers so the main downside is if a new software update changes things too much for my liking, there’s no way to revert back to the way it was. Autopilot (including automatic steering, accelerating & braking within its lane) have all been invaluable to me over the last few years since I drive way more than the average driver. Tesla Superchargers were one of the biggest reasons I bought a Model 3. That paired with Autopilot has made my Model 3 the best road trip car I’ve ever driven. My Model 3 battery has only lost about 2.2% of estimated range after almost 4 years and 100,000 miles which is incredible. For the same price I paid out of pocket, which was around $50,000, you can actually get a much better Model 3 now that has dual motor all wheel drive and about 50 miles more range than mine. Tesla has some of the safest cars ever made, and I’m a pretty safe driver so my cost for full coverage insurance is $125/month, and Tesla is rolling out their own insurance that is currently in a few states already. My local tire shop has given me free rotations as well so I’ve had good fortune with tires so far. There are certain things that mobile service cannot do, and it’s not uncommon for a Tesla owner like myself to have to travel 3 hours round trip just for service because currently Service centers are not as widespread as Superchargers. I love the Tesla mobile app which is so useful for controlling many aspects of the car and also seeing helpful information such as the current speed and location if someone else is driving the car. the Model 3 charge port door is the most finicky part of the car, and I wondered how well it would hold up over time especially in a climate that gets all 4 seasons like here in Louisville KY. I spent a total of $1,620 for all maintenance and repairs, and over half of that total cost was for an optional 2 year checkup and for something that all cars need at some point (tires). My off-peak electricity rate at home when I charge my car is 7 cents per kWh on average I’ll assume $60/year for Supercharging if I didn’t have free miles. If I didn’t have free Supercharging my total charging cost after 100,000 miles is just over $2,000, and it’s actually less than $1900 in reality. I’m saving about $10,000 every 4 years by avoiding gas and oil. And if I keep my Model 3 for 10 years, that comes to an estimated $25,000 in savings. As you can see, my Model 3’s cost of ownership is really attractive when compared to internal combustion engine vehicles.
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[@terryrodbourn2793]

You Should get the 2022 base Model 3 and trade your in to get it!

[@jaimeduncan6167]

I was expecting wear and tear of the interior. You did show some movement and one can see the status of some of the interior but a detail tour will be great. In any case, thanks for sharing pretty useful.

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

What are you on THAT BATTERY will go bad and have to be replaced at some point.. even if you don't drive it batteries degrade over time no matter what you do. I don't care about your mileage see me in 20/30 years and then talk shit..

[@DraftedByTheMan]

Andy. Please check out my reply to mullman. I’d like to know your thoughts on including depreciation in your number.

[@WalterNadeau]

@@marcasswellbmd6922 Fucking what? 20-30 YEARS? Are you driving a 30 year old car? And how much gas and oil do you pour into it? Battery replacement isn't even a thing, but even after 700,000 miles replacement would still be a bargain vs a gas car.

[@ampedampson5140]

Your battery is down 9.3%. Tesla, via a software update, added 15 miles to your car in 2019 to 325. 325 down to 303 is 9.3% degradation. Still an average degradation rate so not bad.

[@teslakiller6959]

Exactly this. This needs to be upvoted more.

[@ampedampson5140]

@@teslakiller6959 His misleading 2.2% degradation gets clicks and views. He won’t correct it. Even though he’s literally the only person with less than 5% degradation in a Tesla after 100k miles.

[@teslakiller6959]

@@ampedampson5140 Sad world we live in. Misinformation and stupidity is being honored...

[@mellowvalentine9354]

@Donald except he was replying to comments of the same age.

[@chad-33]

I wish the energy meter showed us how many kW were actually in the battery pack. I live in FL, RWD LR, mostly highway miles at 78-80mph, and can never get 240 actual miles comfortably.

[@petersjstedt6170]

I feel the same. I have a dual motor. almost 3 years old with 80.000 km. I live in Denmark and have had 2 trips to southend Europe. So smooth - and cheap. Also my best purchase : )

[@JM-kv2kn]

How do you feel about the battery decrease?

[@williamscoggin1509]

@@JM-kv2kn I know Jay Leno said he had had his for 7 years when he traded it for a new model and from what he could tell he only had 5% degradation. Said power output was the same as original just a few last miles.

[@PhilTheEar]

Skål!

[@fancyIOP]

@@williamscoggin1509 but was he actually driving it? That guy has a zillion cars I bet some cars don’t get his driving attention.

[@gabrielc5651]

Do you have any problems with the cold and the snow?!

[@ArchieAerokc16]

I dont want this to come off wrong (for the other reviews I’ve seen) bu this is by far the best review I’ve watched due to the fact you answered many questions that other missed, you’re shear humility & honesty, & the fact that you made every topic relatable. The other reviews I’ve seen have sounded like rich snobs complaining about every little detail when comparing it to other luxury vehicles & the topics they touched on were mostly in regards to things of that nature, which obviously is no real help lol thank you for this, I am now more interested in making the switch than I was before & its all thanks to your quality review 👍🏽

[@Mbjonesss]

This is honestly one of the most informative and enjoyable KZbin videos I’ve ever come across

[@richh650]

Very good video Andy. Probably one of the clearest and most concise ownership videos I have seen without it being sidetracked with non-important info. I must say this has changed my mind about Tesla ownership and I much appreciate your sharing of your experience over the years

[@michaeltheresa7895]

Excellent review, Andy. I think this is one of your more important video, because it shows how the Tesla is as it "ages". New car reviews are nice, but most cars are nice when they are brand new. The real proof of a car's quality and reliability is when the car has some years and mileage on it. Good work, Andy.

[@MrArcheopteryx]

Awesome Andy! I saw your first review. Your Tesla looks just as good as you do now. How is that possible? Love your review. You answer the most techy questions and deliver fairly what is a strength and what should be improved - something only a long term user, preferably in hot and cold climate, is able to answer. Priceless! I still have quite a few years of happy and busy life ahead of me, but I still fear (a bit) that your Tesla might outlive me. Looking forward to your next review. I give you a 10/10 as a review of your reviews! Cheers!

[@JL-xg7xb]

Great review Andy! I got my model 3 six months before you and like you I still absolutely love my car.

[@shawnbillings6591]

Thanks Andy! I watched a lot of your videos before I purchased my first Model 3 in March of 2021. So far I love it and don't regret my purchase at all.

[@Tbird761]

I bought a 2018 Model 3 LR AWD in early 2019. My real-world range on a full charge has been more like 265 miles. During winter, that is more like 210. Like the person in the video though, I've not seen any appreciable degradation from charge/discharge cycles. I've seen some other issues like my rear right tail light fogging up occasionally, something even my 28 year old Toyota doesn't do despite Tesla claiming that is normal. There is speaker grille in the front left that squeaks during driving. The control arms are starting to groan. There were multiple flaws in the paint such as debris trapped under it on the driver door and the rear right quarter panel not having had enough paint applied to it. They managed to dent the chrome trim above the driver door before delivery. The rear right passenger door is misaligned. The phone key feature is unreliable and will eventually leave you stranded if you don't keep a backup key card on you. The driver side window doesn't auto-up correctly. It goes up a couple inches and then back down, a process which repeats a variable number of times until eventually it goes up as expected. It's a misconception that these cars are heavy compared to gas cars, but the high torque does lead to quicker wear. My first set of tires wore out at about 25K miles, and from what I gather that is ballpark for what a lot of people tend to get. Those original tires had a tread wear life of 500 iirc. Service isn't that convenient if you don't live somewhere with a service center, and that is a problem since these things seem to almost universally have issues. The build quality in general is just not great and is more like what I'd expect from a $25K econobox than a $50K luxury sedan. I still like the car, but it makes me worry for the long term.

[@beningram-eiser6121]

cap

[@cyrusfurtado8113]

maybe had a fender bender on the rear right before delivery

[@dustyc324]

My dad does work with Tesla, his company sells them machines that produce some of their parts. . He says his biggest complaint is the build quality, materials used. These things should get better with time and experience, supplier relations, leverage, etc. The cost of ownership explained here almost negates the initial price difference in 4 years. If it goes a decade at the same rate, it's on par or better than the best automobiles ever built.

[@austinpowers1999]

Buy a Ford. They make great cares that last forever and problem free.

[@kevinsaint20]

Luxury brands are almost never reliable. It’s usually the opposite. A $20k Toyota Corolla has legendary reliability but almost every single $50k+ car has horrible reliability. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. all have abysmal reliability and always have (despite German engineering supposedly being superior to every other manufacturer).

[@hj-redravenheng3822]

Thanks Andy - this is a fantastic breakdown of the real cost of owning a Model3 over a longer period of time. Awesome, subscribed!

[@1942nn]

Excellent video. All three main aspects of owning a Tesla are presented here, no bias. I am glad I bought a Tesla 50 ... days ago. I really enjoy it with its autopilot, Traffic Awareness and Auto Steer. I only have near 300 miles on it total. Still learning on how to maximize its range. City driving at speed below 45 miles/hour seem to consume less battery energy than highway driving. the trip's reports are great to monitor this aspect. Blown tire on long trip when I am in no where location is a concern, so I bought a spare tire kit (weighting 50 lbs) to bring on long trip JUST IN CASE. That gives me peace of mind.

[@revamp8835]

From my understanding city will always be better than highway. Because highway driving, your regenerative braking won’t be used as much. You’ll be at a constant speed = using more power

[@guiseppehammer]

Really good content, well thought out, practical, and just well laid out - enjoyment, reliability and cost. Thanks Andy!!

[@aslye]

Thanks for watching!

[@eriknelson5585]

I think the barrier to entry for so many people is the very high initial cost when purchasing and EV of any kind. Especially if you are a younger person like myself in their early 20s where any vehicle above 10-15k is extremely unreasonable.

[@Arpedk]

Prices will come down, just try to drive as cheap as possible until then or even better avoid having a car if possible. We brought an old Hyundai when I was like 26/27 and a cheap apartment, 3 years later we had money for a Model 3. The Model 3 cost about half the price per mile as the Hyundai (not including devaluation). When used EV prices comes down owning a car will come way down in price.

[@BigBoss-kq8mb]

I definitely agree. The average person is not paying 50 K for a car.

[@Blueicyyy]

I’m 21 and paid off my Tesla model 3, yall just lazy

[@Project2457official]

@@Blueicyyy “y’all just lazy” nah you just have rich parents 😂 calling everyone lazy in such an awful housing and job market is wild.

[@Blueicyyy]

@@Project2457official Yeah me working 10’s 7 days a week is parents money bro yeah you got me 🤣🤣 Yall will do anything but work hard for what you want. Dont project you being a bum onto me ✌🏻

[@grantcivyt]

It's great you've had such a positive experience with your Tesla. Informative and interesting.

[@cxmhny]

That was by far the best 19 minutes I've spent on youtube in my life!

[@Ob1Love]

As always Andy, you are the best when it comes to Tesla. I am too old to get into the Model 3 as it sits too low for my back getting in and out. I have been waiting for the 4680 batteries before ordering a model Y. The prices increased so I held off and now they are back down a little so I may bite the bullet and just order one now and get it in August, hopefully from GIGA Texas. Thanks for all you do. I hope Tesla recognizes you and gives you a Model S Plaid!

[@aslye]

Thanks Dennis!

[@1lawnmowerfan362]

I think it’s awesome how much you’ve researched these cars. Most people I know above 50 won’t give Tesla the time of day

[@Ob1Love]

@@1lawnmowerfan362 If you reply was to me ... thanks. I am 71 and will be 72 this summer. I am a techno geek, retired Pilot and love gadgets!

[@1lawnmowerfan362]

@@Ob1Love it was! It sounds like you’ve had a fulfilling life thus far. I think you owe yourself a model Y or whatever dream car fits your budget! I’m taking delivery of my model 3 next Tuesday and couldn’t be more excited. Have a good one!

[@dporrasxtremeLS3]

@@aslye Andy this kind of advertising is so first level, and direct! Thanks for the tire tips! Our gas is 4.30 a gallon or more for regular gas. For transmission oil and filter changes are 300- 700$ every 40-50K. Don't forget timing belts for 600-1500 every 50-60K. Brakes 300-1200 every 60K plus depending on location and driving habits. Great review! Thanks!!!

[@sails180]

Great review. Best car ever! I’m in it for the long haul also with my 2018 (red) LR RWD Model 3. Picked it up April 15, 2018. My last two ICE cars made it for 20 years before I donated one to PAWS Chicago, still looked new, and replaced it with the Model 3. As of yesterday it had a max range of 315 miles so no battery degradation at this point. That said I only have 39,825 miles on it. Enjoy the ride and keep up the great videos! ❤️ Side note; I’m in the FSD beta program. One of the numerous reasons I got this car was I thought it would be smoothly driving me around the heart of the big city (Chicago) by now. I drove for the rich & famous for 36 years and knew I’d eventually need to be driven around. At age 67 it doesn’t look like I’ll live to experience that… My FSD beta experiences in the big city are anything but stellar. Who knows maybe a big tech jump will happen.

[@chaoticcollision3903]

Amazing breakdown. Great job breaking down all aspects of being a Tesla owner as well as covering pros and cons. Earned a sub and a like.

[@brianlee6849]

I just bought an almost identical 2023 model 3 Red rear drive black interior silver wheels. So far after 1 week we are very happy. Thank you 👍

[@Widdermaker]

Yep, the Supercharger network was what convinced me to buy a new Model S way back in March, 2014. I waited until over a year AFTER Elon announced his nationwide Supercharger network to make sure he was serious. When it became clear he WAS serious, I jumped in wholeheartedly. And I’m so glad I did. I’m currently driving a 2016 Model S P100DL. I bought it because my 2014 Model S P85 didn’t have dual-motor AWD (I live in snowy Michigan); and also because it was just before 2017 after which Elon had announced Tesla was ending free unlimited Supercharging for its cars. So, I got in just under that deadline. Ever since, wherever I drive in the US and Canada, I never have to pay for Supercharging. And the car still runs perfectly fine after 5 years and only 53,000 miles. It doesn’t get any better than that! My next car will definitely be another Tesla!

[@Smt_Glaive]

Awesome

[@domk2993]

The free supercharging is still on models up to 2017, right?

[@Widdermaker]

@@domk2993 Yes, but a couple big if’s: 1) The original car purchaser bought access to the Supercharger network when the car was first purchased. Access to the Tesla Supercharger was a $2,000 option for new Tesla S & X car purchases in the early 2012-2014 model years. Most bought it, but a few car buyers didn’t! And… 2) You buy your pre-2017 Model S or X from a someone other than Tesla. I think you should get the car with continued access to free unlimited Supercharging. For example, if I traded in my 2016 Model S in to Tesla, they may not pass on the free unlimited Supercharging benefit to the subsequent purchaser. The best thing to do is contact Tesla before you buy a Model S or X from a private seller and ask if the VIN # has and still qualifies for free, unlimited Supercharging - and get that answer in writing from Tesla.

[@Hallowsaw]

We will see if it can get to 200k like you know real cars can

[@shawnwise2458]

@@Hallowsaw there's always that negative guy in the comments.

[@nandrew75]

Thank you Andy! It’s good to hear from you who has owned the car for four years now. I got mine LR March last year. I also enjoy it very much and will not go back to gas car. I don’t have a house but live in an apartment. So, I have to rely on superchargers. Even this is not an issue for me. Thanks for continue to make video like this to share your experience. I did not buy FSD. I also drive a lot. About 70-135miles a day.

[@AllgoodthingsTv]

What a great review! Thanks for this helpful info.

[@brendanchan6044]

You thank him just Luke how your hoe kf a mum thanks me 😮

[@dovely82]

Your video caught my attention for a reason. It concerned me so much that the vehicle would be so expensive. The maintenance and being stuck on the side of the road was definitely a concern, but you did a great job of breaking down the car. You have inspired me to purchase this car for my birthday in September, thanks to this video.

[@tconc8594]

Don’t dude it’s cheap feeling trash

[@MrDance4meh]

One of the best vehicles you’ve purchased along with one of the best videos you’ve put out there! Awesome editing, story line & many rich details

[@martinharrington2163]

Great review. I’ve been driving my son in laws model S (all the extras), and have loved it, but felt that there were a few things that weren’t up to par for (in terms of price) a premium vehicle. You mentioned them in your review, I.e. road noise, sloppy Ill conceived manufacturing etc. but, with all that, I love it. I love driving it , looking at it and being in it.

[@aslye]

Thanks for sharing, Martin!

[@manoman0]

It's too expensive for what it is and its build quality is horrendous, however, I love the Model S.

[@leny7829]

1st time viewer and 1st time I've seen a video on a "old" Tesla. You're probably the first to make me actually feel more comfortable with the idea of owning an EV. I don't drive much now so may not be worth it but you gave me more to think about especially the repair costs.

[@Ultimateum23]

I leased a Tesla for a couple years, and now looking to buy one. Those two years completely converted me and I simply cannot go back to any other car, it's just a different animal. Held up so well, and really felt bad letting it go. Try the lease option if you're willing, that way you spend much less and see whether you would enjoy the car over a longer term.

[@leny7829]

@@Ultimateum23 Never leased before but something to think about. Probably would purchase if I really do convert. Now got to think about adding PV panels to the house.

[@fabfabcemoi]

Mine is almost 300000km, I got it in June 2019. It’s still very good ! Everyone is impressed when I tell them my mileage. It’s a Dual Motor Long Range. I’m French by the way.

[@dexterstanley4185]

Still have it?

[@fabfabcemoi]

@@dexterstanley4185 yes and now it’s 385000km. I’m changing it at the end of the year for a Volvo EX90. I also bought an EQV300 in October (I’m a private driver in the Champagne area).

[@dexterstanley4185]

Holy shit. That’s pretty good. Does it still have some life left? How’s the battery?

[@fabfabcemoi]

@@dexterstanley4185 The battery is fine, I think I lost 15%. Still can do long distance trip with no problem.

[@Birmingham_racing]

Never thought i would see a 100k review for at least for a few years. I don't own a Tesla but want one in the near future so this answers a lot of questions about used car ownership

[@Soh90]

I’m really happy that you’ve had a positive experience so far. I have a 2021 Model Y, although in a year I only put on 8,000 miles. Holy smokes you drive a lot! I watched your previous videos so I’ve been caring for my battery in the same way you’ve cared for yours (charging at home, taking it easy on the HVAC, and not charging past 80% for almost 99% of the current life of my car. Here’s to 200,000 miles to you! And as for me, here’s to maybe cracking 50,000 miles one day 😂😂

[@redshredder1021]

Thanks for the video. Very informative. Answered a lot of my questions.

[@amitnagpal1985]

Excellent content, as usual. You have such a calming presence and voice.

[@user-em5xk9sw2g]

Awesome video Andy! Thanks for sharing all that experience. I am on my 2nd Model 3 in the last two years, was lucky to exchange it for 0 cost to a now 21 model. But I love driving it and friends have had the same experience as you had. Sadly, here in Germany, we are really really lucky if we can charge below 25 Euro cents...on the road it is more like 50, at superchargers as well. So the actual driving cost here comes close to a gas car. And... With all the energy price hikes here... We will see what 22 brings. Hugs to Kentucky! Been there, love it 🤗

[@Sean-vh8pm]

Your range current range is amazing. My 2020 M3P was 310 now down to 275 miles estimated. But in the sub 10°C I'm lucky to reach 200 miles. Oh, and only 18,000 miles covered in 2 years.

[@MartinSage]

Haha I ride my Triumph 15,000/ yr

[@simonvalent]

well, looks like it's a temperature and how much time you keep it a high charge problem. It's a batteries characterstic not a tesla's.

[@Helloooooo]

Same with my car, I’m tempted to trade it in for a long range model 3.

[@johnnyvegas2015]

Great video, I am actually thinking of getting Model 3 soon....thanks for sharing your experience...cheers

[@filipturczynowicz-suszycki7728]

Straight to the point and comprehensive video. Great job!

[@good2go193]

I’ve had my LR over 40,000 miles with very few issues that were minor. The joy of driving the car far outweighs the issues. Got FSD when it was cheaper and very much enjoy being part of the future as a tester.

[@RealGodfromheaven]

I had my model 3 for 3 years and then just sold it

[@johnshera3935]

@@RealGodfromheaven can i ask why?

[@johnshera3935]

fsd will never happen

[@Pardis111]

@@johnshera3935 still takes some time. They wont start it off in crowded cities.

[@good2go193]

@@johnshera3935 Neither will returning a rocket to earth and landing it on a rolling ship.😂.

[@joshuamcallister3304]

And here I am with a 2021 M3 with 60,000 miles already in 10 months. The car is dual motor, and my battery is still reading 324 miles with a full charge. I charge up to about 88% to 90% everyday but will generally top it off right before I leave out, and I use the 48amp Tesla home charger. I use this car to drive anywhere from 150 to 400 miles a day, sometimes more. But average out to around 6k miles a month give or take. In the Winter at 10 to 20 degrees fahrenheit, I average about 210 to 220 miles of realistic mileage on a full charge, but last spring summer and fall, I had a few full charges actually got me more than 350 miles of range. ( That was at cruising speeds of around 70mph and normal driving habits) I removed the 19s for a set of artisa 18s and taller tires, roads where I live are terrible, and my 19s have been bent and repaired. Since going to the 18s, my efficiency has gone up, and ride quality went wayyy up, and better yet haven't bent a wheel!! So to anybody out there that don't think a electric car "has enough range" for what they do, take it from me, you should consider one because I do almost 6x the amount of driving to the average person. I'm paying .07 cents per kw on super off peak hours, so it costs me anywhere from 4 to 5 bucks for a full charge, and when you work out the math, it's like 140 to 200 extra to my electric bill each month. Hope this comment helps anyone!

[@Pomaufour]

Finally some real numbers. It is one thing to say your max range is that, because you never drop to 0% if you want to preserve your battery. I knew you'd have to charge only to 85% but you made a good point. You could top up to 100% just before you are heading out because - I think - staying at 100% hurts the battery only if it stays like that a long time. So driving right away would minimize the issue. So you could schedule it. Charge it to 85%, and 30min before heading out top up to 100%. Brilliant

[@joshuamcallister3304]

Yup and I'm also doing a full battery cycle too. Meaning doing that I'm nearly full charging it, but then I'll nearly drain the battery during my drive on that same day, versus letting the car sit there for a day or 2 at 85% then 2 days later it's at 50% then 2 more days it's nearly dead, needing a full charge. I put the car through full battery cycles daily, which is what those batteries were designed for, deep cycles.

[@joshuamcallister3304]

Little update, my battery now reads 330 miles at full charge and I'm at 71000 miles now

[@nthrixx2388]

I commute 90 miles round trip every single day plus personal driving and got a 2023 Model 3 long range and it has been a game changer since i also work for an electric company that has chargers at my office not superchargers but just like normal charge point chargers and its 100% free for employees i save 200+ a month on gas compared to my subaru and my commute is 99% 2 lane highway in a rural area and normal auto pilot works amazing.

[@peterlarocque2872]

Thank you for a great review, you did not waste one second of my time. full of facts and details that I was wondering about!

[@MrKyGuy]

That’s great that you mentioned the insurance costs for this vehicle. Something I’ve never quite thought about it. Thanks for the great review!

[@danwettlaufer6364]

Nice review. I think owners find they want to drive everywhere after purchasing the car, just so much fun! Autopilot plus amazing supercharger network makes me a habitual road tripper.. I have a 2021 Model 3, already several improvements and looking forward to 100K+ miles driving. Also, an owner of a Model S since 2014 - well over 100K miles and still going strong. Thanks for the content.

[@iio58]

Thanks for this. Most informative and helpful in deciding whether to change or not on relation to cost

[@bellboy951]

Great presentation and thank you for the electric vs ICE vehicle cost breakdown. Really puts it in to perspective. I’m taking delivery of my model 3 long range this Wednesday!

[@Get_yotted]

The best comparison is that you can fix your own ICE car, you got many cars pushing 200k, others going 300k and up to 1 million. Because you can buy the parts and fix them. You paid $50k to begin with, yes you’re not paying maintenance or gas, but at half the lifespan of reliable ICE car you’ll be shelling out either $5k for a new battery, or buy a new one at $50k. And the only maintenance you’re really saving on compared to ICE is oil changes every 6 mo which is $50-$100, and tune ups every once in a while.

[@Aitchfactor]

​​@@Get_yotted I feel like when people compare Tesla's to standard combustion engine vehicles they always it's fail to mention that you probably spent 20000 more up front and through the life of the payments versus getting a standard car. Saying that you're saving so much money on gas but spent $20000 more to do so doesn't seem like a win to me. Now if you are comparing someone who was buying say BMW or a Mercedes then now you have an apples to apples comparison.

[@December20th]

@@AitchfactorI have Mercedes and get tired of everytime at the dealership I have to pay 6 to 8k for repairs - makes me think to buy a Tesla

[@christopherfritsche5151]

Hey! Great video! I was already feeling great about my recent model Y purchase. This really help me put it in perspective as I start making payments. Keep doing what you're doing! I really enjoy the content.

[@integra1ish]

Andy, you nailed every single points from the best to the worse of the early adopters model 3. Great 👍 Job with video ! We purchased the exact same vehicle & colour back in 2018 in Canada and now has over 72,000km without any issues and counting, we still love the vehicle and would not give up for anything.

[@jlb7707]

Where in Canada are you? How is it holding up in the snow and cold?

[@integra1ish]

@@jlb7707 I am in southwestern Ontario which is about 125 miles from Detroit Michigan, I never had any issues in winter with a good set of winter tires,

[@Conceptsexplainedsimply]

Yesterday I got back from a road trip vacation to Michigan from my home of St Louis, Missouri. I went from STL all the way up to the top of Michigan in Mackinaw Island, and I spent only $218 for supercharging. I have a standard range model 3, so I really felt those extra 2-3 chargers I had to use since my range is only 224 miles on full. I second what Andy says about getting the most range you can, however rest assured, you can still easily make these trips, even in a standard range model 3.

[@noafproductions6144]

Super informative!! I know you posted this a while ago but it has really helped me decide what my dream car under 50k should be. I would love to get a model 3 performance, but I've also been considering a Kia Stinger GT2. While the GT2 usually comes with a great warranty it does seem to me that maintenance and fuel savings should be a lot higher with the Tesla, so I am leaning more and more in that direction thanks to your video and others. Appreciate your video thank you!

[@welcometothe7654]

I drove the Stinger and was so unimpressed. The Tesla is better value for money.

[@billwilson4859]

Great video. Thorough and informative. Amazing how much cheaper it is to operate and maintain. Also that your battery has seen little degradation.

[@SpawnPoiint]

Great long term review Andy 🙏

[@aslye]

Thanks! Hope you’re still enjoying yours as well 👍

[@philiplester1429]

Amazing vid. No filler. All useful info. Thank you 🙏

[@andy.billups]

Excellent video! I was very excited to see another Andy in Louisville! Glad to have you here and i am sure youre enjoying the in town service center now, although i gope youre not having to use it 2 years later.

[@TeslaNave]

You covered the 100,000 miles on point. When people ask me questions or start nagging, I’ll be telling them to watch this video. I also hate the update, removing the seat warmer buttons and defroster, feels dumb having to click here and there for pop up menus, also not making it easy to switch between FM radio and my phone.

[@petepenn1]

Winter kills the battery and these are not made for Cold Canadian winters. At -20C the power is 50% less if not in a heated garage. The batteries are Not Recycled. Green Dream ?

[@lengould9262]

@@petepenn1 references for claims?

[@atodaso1668]

@@lengould9262 that's how it works. Does your phone battery last the same if you leave it in the cold?

[@atodaso1668]

Its only 4 years old...

[@ronaldlenz5745]

Use voice commands.

[@rescuehelly271]

You explain pros and cons well, thx for that and the battery tech of Tesla should be still ahead a lot.

[@christiansariol5018]

Thank you for your time and information. Great vid!

[@jcsd]

Your videos are GREAT Andy! Keep up the good work!!

[@EngineeringPerspective]

100% agree that highway road noise is my biggest complaint with my 2018. Also, I have FSD Beta and it’s not worth $12k in its current implementation, fingers crossed for the future.

[@1620rx]

Not yet. I wish I could buy it now and buy my car later. 👀

[@andrewrossnagel9433]

I look at FSD as an investment. Yes its expensive but with most other manufacturers you will need to buy a whole new car for an updated system. Your model 3 will be state of the art of probably the next 10 years. Maybe longer

[@CrazyWeeMonkey]

@@andrewrossnagel9433 It's not an investment, you're getting conned if you think it is...

[@andrewrossnagel9433]

@CrazyWeeMonkey Thats an interesting outlook that I will surely consider

[@ezpoppy55]

Nicely done, Andy. Informative and comprehensive, minus all the hyperbole and breathless enthusiasm. Teslas are great, and don’t need to be overhyped - the facts, as you brilliantly lay out, are compelling on their own. I’m at nearly one year of ownership, and 10,640 miles (love that app!), so I’ve got a ways to go yet to 100,000 miles. But I too am looking forward to many miles of EV ownership! Keep up the great work!

[@laurendutton1840]

This is so encouraging! I just picked up my 2022 Model 3 a couple of weeks ago and of course I have been flooded with opinions of others about its long term reliability. Tires were my number one concern, so it’s nice to see you had such a good experience. I am doing everting as “by the book” as possible to extend the lifetime of the car as I also plan to own it for at least 10 years. Look forward to seeing future progress updates down the line!

[@thund3r94]

I know this is late but it’s been a year and I’m probably about to get a 2023 model 3, how has it been after a year? (Btw I’m getting it with 21k miles on it)

[@laurendutton1840]

It’s been good! About a month after pickup, my heat pump died, Tesla replaced for free. I did have to replace the tires last year, they didn’t blow out but they were cheaper quality and wore down pretty quickly. Discount Tire has a policy that if the tires don’t last the promised mileage (which I know they won’t because EVs are always going to burn through tires faster), I get some of the money back that I used to pay for them. So it’s pretty much a guaranteed return of some of my money. Other than that, the LTE connectivity board died last October so I had no internet outside of wifi. They replaced that for free since I’m still under warranty. I have some damage just due to where I live. Pole flew off a trailer and busted a headlight, which I ended up replacing myself with one I got off Ebay for about $200. It was not difficult to replace at all. No significant loss in battery capacity (like maybe 1-3%), no failures to any motorized functions within the car. I have noticed when it’s really cold, the windows don’t seal as well, but that happens with any car that has windows in that style. So no complaints, my annual inspection cost me a whopping $10. Texas hates EVs so I have to pay more for registration but it is what it is. I am very happy with my Model 3 and I hope you will be too!

[@thund3r94]

@@laurendutton1840 awesome thanks for the update! I live In Arizona so I should have no issues with cold weather, (lowest it gets is like 40 lmao) if I remember I’ll let you know how I like it 👍

[@bradentrice]

@@laurendutton1840are you in Houston? I’m thinking about purchasing a model three and wondering how it would do with the weather here and the potholes etcetera

[@laurendutton1840]

@@bradentrice I’m in Dallas. I deal with a ton of pot holes on my commute to work and feel every single one. Speed bumps are the worst. Idk if that’s a Tesla thing, or a sedan thing, I drove an Escape before and it wasn’t as bad. It deals with our weather very well. Battery loses some capacity when it drops below 45°, but thrives when it’s over 100°.

[@86309]

Really good video! I learned a lot I ddnt know about the Tesla , especially the savings over the miles, Great job pointing that out!

[@DirtyTesla]

Great video. I can't believe it's been 4 years. Wow. Still going great tho! And I can confirm, my 2021 Model Y is leagues quieter than my 2018 3 was.

[@metaljew4456]

Why doesn’t Tesla advertise their running changes to their cars? Sounds to me that the Model Y for instance has undergone many under the skin changes that are not visible but make a huge difference in driving dynamics and range! Tesla is not a stationary target like many people think they are. They might only offer a handful of car/crossover models but they sure do change and improve them over the years!

[@ken-mb5cp]

@@metaljew4456 Because the internet is full of Tesla owners saying this for free. Most people discount advertising anyway. I know I do.

[@rmkep]

Great summation of M3 SR @100K ownership Andy. Your videos have been a good resource for me and I have 2 Tesla's in the garage (MY LR and M3 SR) with a shared Wall Charger. Love both vehicles and your report matches my more limited Tesla experience. I also bought a Serial 1 ebike (Rush Cty Speed) that I saw you review and I agree with you take on that product as well. Keep up the good work! BTW, I think the road noise issue has been much improved for both the M3 and MY. We've done several longish road trips and find the Tesla's more comfortable than the Range Rover they replaced.

[@2binspired2]

My battery life on my 2016 MS is around 230; 245 new. Almost to 100K

[@philmastman2490]

Well done. My experience with my 2020 LR has been similar. I’m very pleased with my purchase.

[@johnvana1207]

Andy, loved the snapshot of you / your car and the 100K. It really caught my eye. Your coverage of this topic was great as to how solidly Teslas are built. 👍👍👍

[@johncain8564]

I'm right at 15k miles on my M3P. By far the best car I've ever owned. I agree with all of your points, excellent video.

[@polarberri]

Perfect breakdown! It was well-organized, informative, and interesting, without any annoying frills. I never thought I'd be convinced it's smarter purchase financially than a $20k gas car but you brought all the facts.

[@bodyshotjake7475]

The department of energy has the real stats on the cost difference between the 2. for the initial cost difference you would have to drive the EV nearly 400,000 miles before saving money. i.e. my ice gets 31mpg average = average cost per mile at $5.00 = $.16 a mile. EV is averaging $.08-.13 a mile per the Department of energy. Not worth it at all considering the power grid of every city and suburb in the country would need ~160% more electric energy bandwidth to charge them all. This would raise your taxes by a considerable amount and also raise everyone electric bill by more than 2x.

[@Aoeror98]

Why didnt you think it's a smarter investment than buying a 20,000$ car? What calculations did you do to come to your first conclusion?

[@ralphpal]

There are no more 20 k cars It's not 30 plus

[@Aoeror98]

@@ralphpal huh???

[@ralphpal]

@Atheistme I didn't know you wrote it so long ago Buy new Cara costvactually 30 k The 20 k car went out the window

[@scott_cp5902]

Hi Andy, Great video, I have watched it a few times over the past year. I have owned a 2021 LR Model 3 since Sept 21 and drive approximately 35,000 km per year. So far aside from a few minor issues that have been covered by warranty the car has performed well. I intend to keep this car atleast 8 yrs if possible, which puts me around 280,000 KM. Are you still driving your M3? If so, is it still holding up well? Thanks Scott

[@RandyBooker]

Great video Andy! I love my 2021 Tesla Model 3!

[@aslye]

Thanks for watching, Randy! That’s great to hear.

[@dr.projectx5142]

@@nxp22 I drive a 2017 bolt ev it driving good . Basic car and gets the job done. Currently at 52500 miles on it. And they can be bought for anywhere in between from 18k to 24k out the door. And 230 miles of range and 55kw on electrify America chargers.

[@jakedank2746]

Ev car buyers are mind children, Mind children are easily led - and easily misled.

[@crankyoldguy2]

@@jakedank2746 Well, Jake, let's just say that if we ARE mind children, we are smart enough to know a good thing when we find it. Right now, my 'gas mileage' is infinity. And, since I charge my Tesla with solar power, my co$t per mile is pennies for the power. What are you paying at the pump?

[@user-dd1bb4tw4r]

@@nxp22 $52,000 now. I got my Model 3 LR in December just in time before the price hike yesterday. Still spent $56,000 after taxes and stuff. Base price was $48 I think

[@TianarTruegard]

Thanks for putting the actual costs of ownership in your video, it really helps to understand the differences between an EV and ICE engine vehicle cost of ownership.

[@tyblaylock7817]

Beautiful video, lots of very useful and practical information.

[@Mari0o0o]

I have one of the famous “tent built” 2018 Model 3s at almost 70k miles. Only thing I’ve paid for out of pocket are new tires and cabin filter.

[@christianwilhite83]

2021 Model 3 owner here....great review and very on point. My one and only complaint is the phantom braking, which makes Autopilot mostly unusable on the two lane roads we drive (especially in low light conditions). I sure hope this gets resolved, or at least improved, through software updates. Glad to see how well your M3 has held up after 100k miles - thank you for sharing!!

[@teslakiller6959]

It is not as good as he points out. The real degradation is 8%.

[@fatal510]

@@teslakiller6959 no… it is as good as he pints out. That’s his experience.

[@teslakiller6959]

@@fatal510 No it is not. He is calculating wrong. His full rated range based on a specific constant is 325 miles. His odd 300 miles (because the gauge in the app is not accurate) gives him about 92% from the initial range. You can watch my channel to understand the math behind this...

[@chriss4739]

My '17 A4 also phantom breaks. Though I changed the settings from Early to Normal warning (also late available) and the problem went away.

[@claudemontezin911]

A very honest review. The next car I purchase will definitely be a Model 3. You're really good at this. Very smooth and informative. Looking for more from you.

[@RileyMonthule]

This was great. Take into account you’re also saving on all the other maintenance items. Most cars will need a timing belt replacement around 100k miles or chain inspection around then too. Then you have transmission services. Could easily add another 5k savings to your total.

[@alexandertecle]

I appreciate you touching on Autopilot vs FSD. My work commute is about 300mi/week and a big factor in considering a Model 3 for me is whether autopilot would be sufficient for for those long stretches of interstate. Sounds like it! Great review 👍🏾

[@kevinhu6961]

@Dude with Opinion the dude actually got fired for saying BS LOL

[@dirtysouthclimbing]

Autopilot does its best on the interstate. I use it all the time.

[@ikani1]

I tend to describe it as AP handles the boring parts of driving pretty well. It's not something I'm willing to take my attention away from for more than a few seconds at a time but it's nice to have it keep the car in the lane and keep with the flow of traffic. I have an 80 mile commute each way (so only drive it once a week) and it's great to have. I don't think I'd actually gain anything from FSD.

[@mystith]

@Dude with Opinion you don't understand how ai works

[@nuggetsaltshaker9520]

@Dude with Opinion I trust a computer more than I trust a person.

[@robertrigel9806]

Andy, I really enjoy your videos and am learning a lot about the Model 3. Q: After so many miles, your paint looks terrific - how do you keep it looking so good? Waxing or ceramic coating? Car wash or hand washing? Thanks for your reply, Bob

[@stevesanders4682]

I'm glad to have found your video Andy, as I'm about to get the same car in the same city. The only difference being that I'm getting it this year.

[@wisconsinfarmer4742]

I am completely comfortable driving a 1940 John Deere hand clutch, a real hands on mechanical do it yourself type. My second day of owning a '22 model 3, I have adapted to it and love it.

[@thomasjacques5286]

Thanks for this long-term owner's update. Our 2020 LR AWD with the Performance Boost UpgradeY is 18 months old with just 15K mils and it's been flawless. I didn't buy it to SAVE any money I just loved how they drive (my last vehicle was a 2014 Stingray). But any savings for me is just a bonus which I can confirm is REAL and CONSIDERABLE over any ICE vehicle in its category. My plan was to keep our Y for 3 years and by then Tesla would have made enough improvements to make that the sweet spot to trade UP. That's still my plan, I want a new Y from Austin with the 4680 batteries and the latest features/upgrades. I'll be 71 years old by then and that might be the Tesla we keep for a longer period of time as their manufacturing capability should be greatly improved, plus am hoping for some new paint/interior color options. Regarding the cost of FSD, I agree purchasing it OUTRIGHT is not a wise financial decision now that you can "RENT" it on a monthly basis for $200. We take 4 to 5 long road trips a year where we might try it out, but for us, basic AP works just fine. Cheers from southern Illinois.

[@gasbelle3420]

great recap of your 100k miles experience Andy. The battery degradation was particularly interesting as this is the first question I’m asked when someone inquires about my 2022 Y. Not sure why so many people are nervous about this. There are tons of people who have a lot of miles on their EVs with similar results as yours. My wife and I plan on driving our Y for at least 10 years and hope to get the same service as you have experienced. Thanks again! PS: I am one of the few people who was in the first wave of Ford F-150 Lightning reservation holders who got to convert to an order. Should get it around May (hopefully!). Will be interesting to see how it does as well! 👍🏼

[@brianlewis8320]

Congrats on the F150 lightning purchase, very intriguing EV and will be interested to see how it performs and holds up over time. I'm a tesla owner and love the car even with the shortcomings but it doesn't stop me from appreciating other EVS,

[@markfrantz4612]

I just ordered a 2020 red model 3 rear wheel drive standard plus that looks very similar to that. I'm so excited!

[@BosnaGazi8]

How u liking it so far?

[@flightguy32]

This was pretty informative, I wish other folks on KZbin spent time with their EVs before they gave an opinion instead of zipping around back roads for a couple of hours and then giving an opinion.

[@GavinScrimgeour]

That’s phenomenal! 2.2% deterioration after 100,000 miles. On average, I’d say my Nissan leaf will deteriorate 2.5% every year, however I suppose that’s relative to the battery. You must be very please with your car.

[@briannugent1557]

Hi, Andy! I'm in the same boat as you. 5/2018 M3 LR RWD, 106,000 miles, 304-ish miles rated range at 100% in the app. To be fair, though, we did get a 5% range boost as reported by Teslarati on 2/18/2019 to get us nominally up to 325 miles on a fresh battery by reducing the buffer size. So, It's physically closer to 7%, but 2% relative to what we bought. Couldn't be happier. And, yes, my 2013 24kWh Nissan Leaf is 9 years old with 99,800 miles and down to 78% SOH, so active cooling does make a big difference.

[@williamwilliam728]

That was an awesome analysis of your 4 years with the model 3. Thank you so much for the break down and honest concise information. If anybody is sitting on the fence about purchasing a Tesla, they shouldn't be now!

[@naps8906]

fake news. that computer is not truth. we need you to do actual live test. drive 303 miles and see if it lasts. that's how real tests are done.

[@jeffklenk9643]

Dumb iPhone car drive a v8 like an adult

[@joelshewey798]

Yep talked me right out of it

[@cythose4059]

@Yeah I’m sure i mean yeah, to charge an Ev its cheap now but i think that price will triple if more and more would buy Ev cars eventually, so if you would look gas price vs energy price right now its 100% worth it, also i would go for tesla for this reason, charging Ev car from where i am is around 40% cheaper than a ICE car

[@tnbrfller]

There is a lawsuit pending now, because a self driving Tesla has killed a Motorcycle rider.

[@I_dont_want_an_at]

I was into tesla when the model s was revealed. I watched live as they revealed the model 3 prototype and looked forward to the time they were common. Now I'm enjoying that time. One day I'll own one I don't doubt. Pick up a used one for 10k

[@benjamingreen9540]

It’s almost time, they’re selling for 20k now

[@pipersall6761]

Hello from across the river in Indiana! Great review and I would love to own a Tesla. They seem to be great cars and I know they will become more affordable as time goes on. Happy New Year and Happy Tesla!

[@rjr2jefe]

Thank you. Great report that I listened to over my lunch break. I bought a Y in September 2020. I’ve owned easily 30 cars. This one’s the best, for all the reasons you mentioned. But, my insurance is very expensive mostly because when first owning her, I was driving to the ramp in my parking garage and hit the left rear door as I turned too tight and the repair was super expensive and then my insurance increased dramatically. This was my first accident in 30 years. So, repair of the body is more expensive than I’ve been told comparable cars cost. And they recommend that you go to certified body shops.

[@bico1592]

My 2020 M3 had a similar situation. The big problem with Tesla's is repair time. It took 2+ months to repair a damaged rear fender. This is my only car and $1200 was spent on a rental vehicle (Insurance covers 30 days). From what I've read, 2 months is normal repair time on Tesla's. Also be warned, my M3 which is always parked in a garage, was left out in weather, under a tree, and with birds in that tree. Probably another $200+ to have it polished and I'm sure my insurance will go up.

[@AaronMcFarland]

Completely agree with all these items, after owning my Model 3 for nearly 30,000 miles.

[@AaronMcFarland]

But I am only at 295 miles on 2020 LR at 100% looking at the Tesla app at 28,332 miles.

[@siyuanzuo3750]

Top notch video! My Model 3 RWD is coming in a couple months(2023 model with LFP battery), super stoked

[@PassportGaming]

How do you like it?

[@siyuanzuo3750]

@@PassportGaming really enjoying it, it’s very hassle-free to own and drive!

[@cire06.]

well think i might pull the trigger now! excellent review thank you!

[@richardconrad698]

Great video overview, thank you! When I worked in automotive, we did a lot of Tesla work. It was impressive with how fast they move, but it also scared me because of traditional automakers' mindset. I assumed fast pace meant more errors. Yeah, there were still cosmetic issues(panel gaps) with Teslas, but I never saw frame issues! That said, I never buy first generation anything! So this video has really helped curb my fears with owning a Tesla. Well, and "It’s The Superchargers, Stupid | In Depth" video that explains the charging network. Definitely keeping this as an option for a good used vehicle in a few years. I'm not buying new! Good to know the batteries are still good at 100k miles, as I keep my vehicles well over 200k, and do maintenance myself. Swapping Prius cells is kind of a pain(time consuming but simple), i'm curious how DIY Tesla cells are?

[@zzzzzz...9902]

How hard is it to work on a Tesla? Are the parts available to the average joe who wants to fix a problem themselves assuming something is not covered under warranty?

[@funtimeproductions5121]

@@zzzzzz...9902 Now that is a hard question to answer...lol

[@richardconrad698]

@KZbin Account I guess it depends on your long term goals. They move fast and it is impressive, but they also work you a lot, from what i've heard. Starting out, absolutely if you can get into there!!! Personally, I'm thankful to be out of automotive! Currently in the Food Industry doing CAD/IT, and also doing financial services on the side, with a company that is paying for all of my licensing, can't beat that! Happy to chat with ya.

[@johnnyfounder951]

Great review, I love cars and watch all reviews. Not a single part of me wants a Tesla, but that’s the great thing about the choice we have today, I still think they are good cars.

[@toby9999]

I would like an EV. I like the concept but prices are still prohibitive. I think the cheapest locally is the Leaf at around $50,000

[@dymd3z]

My wife and I got our model 3 SR+ last summer, and even though it’s almost at 30,000km, we could sell it today used and make more money than what it cost us. It’s crazy how the prices of the vehicle fluctuate like that.

[@brandonanderson9885]

This review was great just got in the market to buy EV and you my friend helped with the decision great work 🤝

[@trueblue4l1f3]

Awesome video dude! I love my model 3 even more now! Did 16k miles in two years, absolutely no problems and going strong 😁

[@Kinghippi3]

It better lol. You haven’t even broke your tires in

[@mellowvalentine9354]

@@Kinghippi3 fr lol

[@tdtesla]

I love my M3 - the tech is incredible & it’s just so much FUN to drive!!

[@Dad_of_War]

M3 is a BMW

[@tdtesla]

@@Dad_of_War Done that too, but M3LR - better?

[@cju4300]

Thanks. I was planning to buy full electric car in a few years. You definitely cemented my decision.

[@lucianoUSA]

Thank you for the video, very informative.