MYTHS, LEGENDS, AND GODS - Terrible Writing Advice

[@thekaticorn99]

"No romance author alive has ever topped the ridiculous love triangles found in mythology" Love him or hate him, he's speaking straight fax

[@allisonwallace4022]

KT Zone this sounds like a challenge...

[@synflwr]

Loki had a child with a male 8 legged horse.

[@mobeenkhan824]

Moon-Vo!d He was raped, I doubt that was part of his plan.

[@Soridan]

@@mobeenkhan824 Who knows what plans a man playing tug of war with his balls tied to a goat's beard would come up with. Loki is loco.

[@shosty575]

@@Soridan true😂😂😂

[@alef-0]

Zeus is pretty much the love polygon itself.

[@NIHIL_EGO]

Nigga's a love galaxy.

[@azureblaze8318]

Then he complains about betrayal from his lovers and crap. Oh look a new war over the horizon.

[@baltofarlander2618]

Zeus is scumbag, but ignorant authors always present him as good guy in opposition to his brother Hades being evil (while actual Hades was more good guy with scary job)

[@funninoriginal6054]

Zeus is a love black hole.

[@scottmantooth8785]

must be a summer thing

[@ZombieFighter95]

You know, seeing how the Greeks had some minor unknown god for every minor feeling (that you've probably never heard of, because in the stories, they only ever mention the major Olympians), if they had known about the periodic table, they definitely would have created a god for every single damn element.

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

they had a type of nymph for every enviornemnt imaginable too

[@ccaffie1231]

don't forget Zeus' unending supply of demigod spawn

[@SlapstickGenius23]

@@roguepsykerhaaker4813 do you mean every environment imaginable in Greece, the Mediterranean and the known world?

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

@@SlapstickGenius23 yes, I suppose I do

[@juniperrodley9843]

Yeah, minor deities were always cool... Psyche, Hypnos, Metis, Nike, Balerion....

[@MAX-xd4uz]

"You look like a renaissance fair got raided by anarcho-communists!" This got me

[@Graknorke]

Turns out that olde days combat tactics are useful in riots actually. The art of getting into formation to hit people with sticks never gets old.

[@ayindephulgence4950]

Graknorke humans just developed better sticks, think about it guns are just sticks that throw rocks really fast

[@danthompson9966]

@@ayindephulgence4950 yeah this is big brain

[@DavidLopez-pc7yg]

@@ayindephulgence4950 fantastic analogy

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

Low-casualty melee combat tactics don’t really get better than formations of heavily armored guys with blunt objects and shields.

[@set9034]

Oh boy I can't wait to hear about the gods of light and darkness for the umpteenth time

[@Ahsoka_Hyrule]

Set *cough* RWBY *cough*

[@alphadragon601_9]

I want there to be a story with the god of like, mildly heavy rain

[@Gamebuilder2000]

I don't get those gods, by definition, if you control Light, you also control Darkness and vice versa

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

@@Gamebuilder2000 Think of it like "God Of The Letter.And Number Keys" and "The God Of Backspace". In essence, the Light God can only up the brightness, not drop it, and the reverse for Darkness God.

[@undeadwolf5844]

@@youtubeuniversity3638 Don't Forget his other Domain of delete button for deleting the forward letters.

[@RequiemPoete]

"Who are you?" "I am Choklita. Goddess of Hotel Mints."

[@Fluffkitscripts]

And dead memes. Can’t forget dead memes.

[@1tzm3hh11]

@@Fluffkitscripts Um, his name is shrek get it right. XD

[@1tzm3hh11]

@@Fluffkitscripts oh my god. I just realized, your name... MAH HEART MAH SOUL!!!!

[@benjamincole8164]

+RequiemPoete I love it! I want to use Choklita in my book that I'm writing! May I? I know it's a stupid joke, but I'd still like to ask first before I just write her in.

[@benjamincole8164]

Let me specify. I want to use her name. The concept is probably free realestate, but you came up with the name. So, can I use this name for the hotel mint goddess in my story?

[@theodoraramsey1290]

Where is the god of the LOVE TRIANGLE, mate?!

[@chongjunxiang3002]

Yeah, but even Cupid cannot eacape the love triangle, even if that is his power. I guess Cupid enjoy the process of being cucked.

[@IceQueen975]

One day I'll make one for a fanfic for funsies.

[@jonsnor4313]

No one less than the terriying JP, even chuthulu is under his cruel clutches.

[@stephenking9114]

It was the fourth god jp talked about. He just forgot to mention that aspect of him.

[@TheSomewareMan]

The love triangle IS god!

[@crazyeeveelady3636]

Some JRPG: The Goddesses of LIGHT and DARKNESS... HAD A FIGHT Me: **Gasp** No!

[@whatisupmyfellowamericans8808]

So, two goddesses started duking it out? ...does this qualify as a cat fight?

[@patrickbuckley7259]

@@whatisupmyfellowamericans8808 Only if they are hot, so I put odds on yes.

[@hariman7727]

90% of other RPGs: God's the villain, his church is corrupt, and you'll kill him by the end. Also 87% likely to be an expy of Christianity. .000000001%... actual good lone God of a world.

[@Janoha17]

@@hariman7727 Japan does not have a good history with Christianity..

[@Graknorke]

Wait, there's more!

[@Ashlett337]

The Goddes of Corruption should have "Notably Absent Dominions: Clothes"

[@scottmantooth8785]

the Kardashinites

[@exocakes4587]

Their motto for armor: "Bikinis, take it or leave it."

[@enderjed2523]

Then again, Slaanesh is basically what their beholders see, so they could be either prawnhub premium stuffs, offbrand, or deviantart.

[@Superstar5_]

Perfect for R34 so that people can retain their interest in something long after its relevance.

[@rdsasuke1]

You're a bad person.

[@mutantmaster1]

"No love story can top the ones made by mythology" *looks over at all the kids Zeus made because he's also the god of one night stands* Yeah, fair point

[@real_nosferatu]

Love triangle*

[@романзырянов-ф3ф]

@@real_nosferatu traingle? Love FREACIN DODECAHEDRON sounds way closer to Zeus ambitions)

[@sineadthomas2024]

lord over Love Triangles don’t have 46 sides

[@lexi3981]

Zeus isn't in a "love triangle" he IS the triangle

[@varia2354]

He's the god of rape.

[@WillcraftAnimations]

When making gods for my D&D campaign I ironically got so caught up making the fertility goddess and fleshing out her religion with rituals, holidays and behavioural guidelines for followers that I had troubles topping it when working on gods that the players are more likely to actually care about. What can I say, I'm a sucker for coming up with my own seasonal festivities...

[@eibonrasseru5549]

D and D campaign Make good story tellers when they get caught up in the game plus you can cash it out

[@gadielgonzalez2755]

You could've solved that by just having a monotheistic pantheon/religion centered around your fertility goddess.

[@mistermoon9305]

Wait a minute... I remember you! I hope you are getting better, your new vids are great man.

[@cadenwerner3930]

In my campaign I wanted to have a set of psychopomps for flavor if someone died, I decided to make the goddess of seasons, fertility, the harvest, and such things act as an impartial psychopomp. The one who allows the weather to freeze life over should also be the one who reaps the souls whose mortal coils where killed by the frost and hunger of the winter.

[@stanard_bearer]

I did that with my War God and Nature God, neither are what you'd expect. Then one of my players wanted to worship the God of light... and all the others were atheists. I put so much work into that, eventually they engaged with what I made and the campaign later ended. (I fleshed the rest out through game time) one of the players sat in the DM seat for a new campaign and just used my pantheon. Glad he liked it.

[@ЕгорМалыгин-з7и]

I have a better advice: "Just steal everything from Tolkien". Works every time!

[@tariqahmad1371]

The Great War inspired it

[@seandewell9319]

@mozamioo _ Well tonnes of it was inspired by history and Norse mythology. I'm more impressed with him creating languages.

[@kingmaoh5566]

@@seandewell9319 Anybody can create a langauge just based it off a real language and just slightly make it different

[@tldoesntlikebread]

@@seandewell9319 languages can be inspired by other languages too. and tbh we do have several constructed languages like Na'vi, Klingon, Toki Pona, Esperanto.

[@seandewell9319]

@@tldoesntlikebread Still impressive making a functioning language

[@MisterTutor2010]

Gods for each element of the Periodic Table would make sense in a culture ruled by chemists :)

[@notstorm208]

That would be such a sick idea with elementary particles as like elder gods or something

[@madcinder257]

or where the gods are actual beings inside the rules of the universe and are subject to the confines of matter.

[@pretzelbomb6105]

1d4chan made a periodic table of dragons. It’s a pretty fun read.

[@SeismicHammer]

Using the German names? All hail Wasserstoff!

[@majorblitz3846]

Hmmm, how about there is a set of gods that shift over a generation. The second generation of god were chosen to unscrew the mistake previous group did, it works but only problem is Isekai is now politically unstable so they get the MC to do a hitman job for them instead.

[@thevoidlookspretty7079]

Why is the god of death always evil? I’d figure that Death’d be chill. Why should death care about anything? He/she’ll win in the end.

[@RacingSnails64]

The Void Looks Pretty that'd be really cool actually

[@notstorm208]

Read Sandman bro death is just a cute goth chick

[@thevoidlookspretty7079]

notstorm that’s fair.

[@IceQueen975]

More then that: he/she is just doing their job.

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

@@notstorm208 Marvel's death is a hot skeleton lady

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

I'm actually mildly interested in a Periodic Table theology system now. Major elements can be gods/goddesses while more complex elements can be demigods.

[@scottmantooth8785]

and explain why particular elements are never invited to the really important cosmic deity mixers as they are just too unstable or react violently when in close proximity with others due to long standing arguments that have festered for eons

[@Hyzentley]

Damn yeah. Hydrogen as the great cosmic creator who is weak on themselves but really powerful with any other god? Lithium as goddess of electric storage but also patron goddess of people with bipolar disorder? Carbon as the incredibly variable trickster but ultimately benvolent? Just my few ideas as chemistry student

[@coldmossonarock7743]

I imagine the pantheon of non-metals as lusty gods that give birth to powerful aberrations they use in war. While metals have more raw power but are less versatile and sometimes have hybrids with the first pantheon. Unwanted by everyone but being the key to many important reactions. These hybrids are hunted in an inquisition disguised as evil-puryfing but actually is a resource gathering.

[@fantasyshadows3207]

Plutonium farted loudly everyone died the end

[@nebulaentertainment3404]

Oh my gosh. That's really cool.

[@SmartAlec1]

Make sure you make these unstoppable gods be treated like just another enemy that the hero can simply power up to defeat just like all his previous foes, which does not give the title a hollow meaning.

[@literallyglados]

Dont forget to regret killing the death God causing nothing to die! (Causing nothing to die alongside the regret that comes from that is optional)

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

Did you say *God of War?*

[@ADADEL1]

Strangely, that is real world myth accurate. Odin and Loki were defeated and captured by two brothers in the Fafnir story (the brothers are described as either normal or wizards depending on which you read), and Jacob was smacking around either Yahweh or an angel so badly that it had to punch him in "the hollow of the thigh" out of panic. Diomedes badly injures both Aphrodite and Ares in the Illiad just by stabbing them.

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

There also was that one greek story where some asshole locked Thanos (the ferryman guy, not the Purple People Deleter) and then tricked Hades to let him back out the first time by forcing his wife to just toss his corpse outside... Damn my memory of names >,

[@ADADEL1]

@@gratuitouslurking8610 Sisyphus

[@isabellelaurie1021]

'no romance author alive has ever topped the ridiculous love triangles found in mythology' ...is that a challenge, JP? also imagine going to camp half-blood and finding out your dad is the god of chocolate mints in hotels

[@IceQueen975]

Oh dude I'd be SO excited tbh. Love those things.

[@ViridianForests]

If that means you can eat them endlessly and not get fat or heartburn from that count me down my man, that sounds perfect

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

*ZUES WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*

[@Laff700]

What if a god of hatred got imprisoned by a love dodecahedron made of gods?

[@696190]

@@Laff700 and them having to maintain it in order to keep said god imprisoned. and the war that breaks out after the dodecahedron gets broken. you would then however have to explain why the god of hatred is powerful enough to need to get sealed away, but whatevs

[@AtaMarKat]

Best Creation Lore: “In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” Best explanation of deities: “Our gods are dead. Ancient Klingon warriors slew them a millennia ago. They were more trouble than they were worth.”

[@violet999ab]

The second one’s from Star Trek, right? May I ask where the first one is from?

[@purplecatloverrandompizza]

Kane Chronicles basically but they're like Wait no we need the goods help don't kill us were saving you

[@florenceb1031]

With all the groups who have misused religion to justify evil since religion was invented, I'm starting to think the Klingons had the right idea.

[@mirrond44]

​@@florenceb1031 Technically, yes. But the 20th Century kinda showed that the opposite standing does exactly the same thing (on a bigger scale), so misusing atheism to justify evil is just as common it seems.

[@florenceb1031]

@@mirrond44 You do realize it was a joke, right?

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Forge Deity who doesn't *use* a forge, but *is* a forge. The literal forge itself is the deity, not the user of it!

[@evies.1018]

Maybe the _real_ forge is the deity we worshipped along the way!

[@flexprime2010]

the omnissiah?

[@festethephule7553]

@@flexprime2010 *Praise the machine god!*

[@tach5884]

But you can't make a forge without an anvil, and you can't make an anvil without an anvil...

@@tach5884 how was the first anvil made

[@mistertwister2000]

Don’t forget that the Goddess of Light (because the good guy’s God is always female or their dad, no in betweens) is juuuust powerful enough to give the hero advice/help but not powerful enough to do anything herself with *no explanation whatsoever*

[@LeriHunter]

Had a counter example in what internet called an "art" media. To summarize, try imagining how someone would be if they could directly intervene to protect their creation against what's evil. Good, but don't forget since SHE's the goddess of light, she defines what's evil.

[@KeertikaAndFallenTree]

"The goddess is weakened, she needs a hero to vanquish the dark god of destruction (which for some reason has 90% of being male), a guy born in a lost town forgotten by everyone and who, through only his will and strength (cough* godly power ups *cough* ridiculous legendary weapons just lying there for him to pick them *cough* power of friendship *cough* antagonist who let him live for no reason when he was a baby while slaughtering is entire family *cough* probably one resurrection *cough*) will be able to do it" Seriously I hate the plot armor abuse. That's why I like Berserk. You never feel like the protagonist is "chosen" or has insane luck or blessing. That's how those stories should be written.

[@UmbraMan1]

Raava from LoK

[@akezhantoleukhan2510]

MisterTwister TES has pretty decent explanation- good Gods used up much of their energy in process of creating the world, while darker ones were chilling

[@podemosurss8316]

And why can't the good guys'god be both female AND their dad?

[@serbianslav5494]

Unrelated joke: Imagine you and your colleagues spending your entire lives building giant pyramids only for people from future to think it was some creatures from outer space to build said pyramids.

[@JM-mh1pp]

I will give you one better - All rejoice for I Urgh have invented a plow. This will change the future of civilisation itself and all future generations will speak name Urgh with reverence till the end of all time One year later - Thank the gods for the plow! - Wait...what?

[@lqu]

@@JM-mh1pp ... wtf's a plow?

[@eatingr0]

@@lqu kinda like a farming thing

[@jadendafinger]

I wonder if creatures from outer space did at one point come here.

[@concept5631]

SerbianSlav And thinking you were slaves to boot.

[@coryman125]

Actually... I kinda really like the idea of every chemical element having a new god. "Noble gases, you get back here! Quit ignoring everyone." "Ugh, Hydrogen and Oxygen are together again. Don't let Carbon know or we'll have another planet with life." "Who's this? Moscovium who? Oh, those pesky humans made another element...."

[@grahamtpeterson]

Has this been an anime yet? Sounds like it would have been

[@coryman125]

@@grahamtpeterson closest I've seen was a very bizarre video in like grade 8 chemistry. I genuinely could see this being one now you mention it though

[@PengyDraws]

@@coryman125 The plot would be about trying to stop some cult from creating their own god by adding more protons and neutrons together so they can... I dunno, get irradiated?

[@thejurassicwarewolf3300]

@@PengyDraws maybe it's an experiment to see if there is a connection between the number of protons/neutrons an element has and the power of that element's god?

[@ionpanther9782]

The complicated science is the reason why nobody has done this

[@inciaradible7144]

“Why have a good story when you can have... the mystery box?!” - J. J. Abrams, probably

[@killgriffinnow]

'What are stories BUT mystery boxes?' -JJ Abrams actually said this

[@inciaradible7144]

@@killgriffinnow Yep. It's such a stupid stance.

[@MegaGlassguy]

@@inciaradible7144 Well it depends how you see it. Whenever you pick up a story, even after a short synopsis, you don't necessarily know how it's gonna turn out. Some stories sounds great but turn out to be disappointing while others you decide to read because you've got nothing better turns out to be much better than you expected. It's all about how the story is developed over time. Does it start to stagnate? Does it follow in a different but logical direction? You don't know until you read it so yeah, I can sort of see what he meant when he said that. Doesn't excuse shitty writing though.

[@MegaGlassguy]

@Chase Moore Hence why it's no excuse for what he does.

[@scottmantooth8785]

nothing like a mystery box...LOVE TRIANGLE!!!!

[@birdiejett3163]

“Thoughtful critique of organized religion is pretty rare in fiction.” FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

[@LeriHunter]

They're also pretty rare in our reality.

[@iksskan9147]

@@LeriHunter lets be real whenever there is thoughtful critique of religion, it's banned no matter which religion it is

[@JM-mh1pp]

Pratchett small gods- I am sorry but I exist...

[@SomeAsian]

Fire Emblem Three Houses had such a refreshing view on religion overall which is nice.

[@iexist1300]

@@iksskan9147 it's usualy banned if it's thoughtful, but not if its callous and 1 sided.

[@festethephule7553]

Well, the bubonic plague is theorized to have traveled down the silk road. The silk road was a trade route (actually a series of trade routes, but, you know). Given how it was a traderoute, it would've included ads. So there.

[@temporaneo617]

Also the tartars that were besieging kaffa could have sent "please surrender" ads attached to infected bodies. Then the genoans ran back in italy, and the rest is history

[@marthofaltea1751]

Didn't the Scottish bring the Bubonic Plague home after having the brilliant idea of attacking Plague weakened Britain, sounds like the dubious work of ads in my opinion... I mean what else would tip off the Scots?

[@mezz09smezzanine]

@@temporaneo617 Isn't... all of it history?

[@temporaneo617]

@@mezz09smezzanine shit you got me!😲

[@Deity1]

There are are only three things that are certain about life: death, taxes, and advertisements.

[@jaminjames2517]

Where's the hero of legend that ascended to God hood and may or may not be an ancestor of the current protagonist

[@plaidpvcpipe3792]

Damn faithless Imperials.

[@jamesschmitt2203]

@@plaidpvcpipe3792 We all serve Talos!

[@EnrocaLaRoca]

@@plaidpvcpipe3792 Don't let your hate towards the empire distract you from the fact that the true enemy is the Aldmeri Dominion.

[@CheeseOfMasters]

Shht, I'm gonna use that.

[@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933]

ELVEN SUPREMACY IS THE ONLY TRUTH!!!

[@plasmawolf7960]

I’m writing a book called “The Elves That Died for Constantinople”. It’s self-explanatory.

[@meatiest1989]

Lmao

[@oncreativemode5486]

im super sorry but this title gives off the same energy as "the hated child that became a princess"

[@plasmawolf7960]

@@oncreativemode5486 I mean ur not wrong. I gave up on it awhile ago

[@mangle9143]

Istanbul is constantinople, istanbul is constantinople, the elves know why but they're deadddd

[@SingingSealRiana]

Sounds amazing!!!

[@mr.cup6yearsago211]

Ah, perfect timing! Just when I was having an existential crisis due to my crippling boredom and loneliness!

[@legendarytat8278]

Perfectly relatable

[@VaqueroCoyote]

Don't worry it'll arise again when the video ends.

[@mr.cup6yearsago211]

MountainFox51 sadly, you were correct.

[@walker5653]

STOP CLIMBING MY FUCKING CHAT-BUILDING

[@ragimm.1143]

Literally me, I thought I was alone

[@fukyomammason]

I rolled a 9 and 11 on my Build-A-God Workshop, so basically my god is just a meme necromancer.

[@brandonvelde5774]

Truly, a benevolent god.

[@killgriffinnow]

He can bring back dead memes like trololo, nyan cat, THIS IS SPARTA and rage comics with ease

[@ChaosRayZero]

.☻/ This is Bob. Bob wants to be resurrected. / ▌ Copy and paste him in every comment section . /\ you see to help him take over KZbin!

[@fantasyshadows3207]

Nice This is a wait Why does my character sounds vaguely like yours? My character is a sorcerer who thinks he’s a wizard but somehow can only do death magic also he likes memes

[@DzinkyDzink]

Nice, now make him the benevolent type that guides your protagonists. Maybe by ressurecting them after they fail.

[@axiomostanes]

"The pantheon of the periodic table of elements would be way too big" Shinto gods: Are we a joke to you?

[@axiomostanes]

(Supposedly there are 8 million of them)

[@zyanego3170]

@@axiomostanes I heard the Hindus have 31 Million Gods

[@mvalthegamer2450]

@@zyanego3170 330 million actually

[@mvalthegamer2450]

@@axiomostanes Hinduism: Pathetic

[@zyanego3170]

@@mvalthegamer2450 Wow!

[@etcetera1995]

Remember, my fellow hack authors. We aren't J. R. R. Tolkein, no matter how much we want to rip him off. And I see what you did there, placing the fertility goddess in a triangle with the gods of war and the forge.

[@92JazzQueen]

Mythology nod.

[@deadaccount9220]

This hurts so much, but it is the fact

[@CryosisOfficial]

Who the hell would want to be J.R.R. Tolkein in the first place? His stories suck and are a horrible template.

[@owlblocksdavid4955]

@@CryosisOfficial Have you ever read the Silmarillion?

[@CryosisOfficial]

@@owlblocksdavid4955 No and I never will.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

BEHOLD! My GOD OF LOVE! *triangle descends from Heavens*

[@bard5865]

Ah, it burns!!!!

[@ezelfrancisco1349]

No audience is safe. We must all hide until the Mary Sue became the chosen one.

[@kingchickenwing4887]

How do you always end up in the top commenta even when you aren't pinned and don't have a bunch of likes? Are people just searching through the entire comments section until they find your comment?

[@aceyspud551]

When are you gonna do a crossover with Justin Y?

[@Rainbowthewindsage]

How are you everywhere?

[@LordVVar]

Albert: Miss Leela I have a question Leela: Yes Albert? Albert: That story was bad Leela: That really wasn't a question Albert: That really wasn't a story

[@solowingborders3239]

Zeus has you beat, he was in a love nebula.

[@hariman7727]

@Alex Smith It's not a question of who Zeus slept with. It's a question who DIDN'T he sleep with.

[@mutantmaster1]

Zeus can count on one hand the number of women/animals he hasn't slept with He's working on getting it down to 0

[@hariman7727]

@@mutantmaster1 *Returns from checking a knock on his door.* Damnit. Zeus only caught me at a glance, and thought I was a woman. Had to disabuse him of that notion.

[@alysondavy2485]

@@hariman7727 Given how Zeus is, i don't think you being a man would make him stop.

[@adrianmcbride1666]

@@alysondavy2485 it wouldn't.

[@mimisaur5000]

"Personality: Absent as it was replaced by honor" "Personality: Hates goodness, has evil laugh, thinks Undertale is overrated" oh my god these are great!!

[@ikagura]

Undertale is overrated tho

[@rigel555]

@@ikagura it deserved the praise but it's overexposure drove some people away

[@wjzav1971]

And make sure that the god of death is always the EVIL god, despite the fact that in Antiquity, the gods of death were usually quite revered and popular and seen as generous hosts who would welcome your soul after your passing.

[@giovannigennaro9732]

It's all because modern society refuses to except the inevitability of death.

[@wjzav1971]

@@giovannigennaro9732 Memento mori Unus

[@Pancasilaist8752]

@@giovannigennaro9732 Yes, most people in modern times want to live for a thousand years or more or even immortal. No wonder they think the god of death is evil even though the truth is that every living thing will die someday

[@subhamraj5365]

Yamraj is the god of death AND justice

[@dereenaldoambun9158]

Well, duhhh! Some ppl wants to live forever. Some ppl want their pets & loving family to stay with them forever. Death is like a departure, an ending to their current life. That's why death is often potrayed as 'evil', because it bring changes that some people dislike.

[@missmorbid1439]

Can we take the time to appreciate how the evil AI overlord was somehow able to leave the room, despite being literally tied to it

[@PengyDraws]

can we have a god of justice that's literally just an AI that read every single court recording?

[@catbatrat1760]

@@PengyDraws I know this is late, but... that is GENIUS!!!! :D Y'know, come to think of it, being a god of justice would be pretty darn boring...

[@ccaffie1231]

The Knights of Artistic Integrity's monologue was long enough for the AI to redesign it's hardware for mobility

[@lordfawful9469]

He just hopped to a different server.

[@applebrush7600]

The power of ads, man. The power of ads.

[@asalways1504]

In other words always use the Greco-Roman, Egyptian and or Norse pantheon as default. It's not like other mythologies exsist. -Celtic, Maya and Aztec, Babylonian, Assyrian, Slavic-

[@IceQueen975]

Never forget Americans can't think beyond 3rd grade history X-x

[@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283]

Please, Smite and SMT are the only things that care about those things, and even smite doesn't care! XD

[@jonsnor4313]

Dont dare to use a godess with more domains like war fertility, justice, political power and love in one. Or as interesting, two gods being rivals in the same domain, that totally didnt exist in the greek-roman pantheon.

[@IceQueen975]

@houseofjax’s Animations My dude, I lost faith in humanity a long-ass time ago. Cheers.

[@Goodmanperson55]

Greco-Roman, Norse, Celtic and all these European mythologies are all cut from the same Indo-European pantheon, anyways.

[@mattyboi7491]

The percy Jackson books break most of these tropes and even they aren't free of the love triangle

[@sonicspider5415]

Are we still good? Sure, YES

[@f.i.r.e.5119]

UGH, that love triangle still irks me.

[@nikoladedic6623]

If you go with Greek mythology, you better have some love triangles. That's bare minimum.

[@kalabooo4238]

Didn't Percy had 4 or 5 love triangles

[@mattyboi7491]

@@kalabooo4238 yessir

[@DaddyDynastic]

I never understood why nature is always depicted as something peaceful and gentle when the entire point of nature is survival of the fittest

[@fantasyshadows3207]

NO ONE SUSPECTS DEATH BY GRASS OVERLORD

[@vladprus4019]

Then you have Warhammer where the closest thing to the god of nature is Nurgle who loves spreading plagues, decay and death, becouse from destruction of one life, a new emerges (like bacteria or flies)

[@giovannigennaro9732]

Yay. It's because nature gods are pretty much always female because it's the way weave done it since as far back as myths seem to go. The problem is this means feminity is ascribed to nature, which makes it vulnerable to a cultures perception of feminity, and even (and particularly) those in western society who claim to champion women as more then elegant princesses still perceive them as such. Such people aught to remember the quote "hell hath no fire like a woman scorned". Just as an aside Roman myth actually had an interesting take on such things, Venus, of instance despite being a goddess of love, beauty, and sex was also (to a minor extent) a war goddess. Basically the idea is love includes love of country, and beauty includes the beauty of Roma (and lets be honest theirs something attractive about female rage, that reads in an odd way, but I digress).

[@lanceocana9059]

yeah its just the *rules of nature*

[@applebrush7600]

Because nature can be gentle and serene. That sunny glen full of bunnies and wildflowers is a real thing after all. Sure, it might also hide hawks that could tear apart one of the bunnies. Or a nest of rattlesnakes. The point is... Nature has many moods and demands respect. Even when it's full of flowers, rainbows and cute baby critters.

[@velf1527]

"Goddess of fertility, birth, cultivation and ladyness." You made me snort my coffee.

[@hb712]

I really like Rick Riordan’s mythology... he’s not claiming to write his own mythology, so he’s not plagiarizing god archetypes. However, he modifies his mythology to fit the modern day (Hermes being a UPS driver, the Mist, monsters, etc). He takes these archetypes and modernizes them, which is really refreshing and interesting.

[@SingingSealRiana]

Also he does not fall into the pit of turning the moral complex gods all good or all evil

[@KaiserAfini]

6:40 Zeus: Love triangle? Meh, I just look down and take the first thing I see, makes for great stories.

[@iandick1364]

You have captured the essence of Zeus.

[@navilluscire2567]

E-eh...your not wrong. Or rather what comes after that is what generated some of the greatest tales of myth. And all because one God couldn't keep it on his toga!

[@jasarigames4481]

A love decahedron

[@drhaxx7425]

@Supreme Snek Isn't that just Percy Jackson, except that all the other gods get in on it too?

[@yeahkeen2905]

I literally just watched the latest Miscellaneous Myths and then this pops up in my notifications.

[@conservaduck7298]

Alex Smith god of spoken word would cover videos and singing

[@jasonlewis4438]

Terrible Writing Advice and Overly Sarcastic Productions *need* to do a crossover!

[@azarishere6442]

Master Boss xD same

[@moistteeth7179]

Alex Smith she’s calliope in disguise

[@gabeskai]

I would PAY for a crossover

[@Grey_Warden_Invasion]

Damn, just started with a new story and already made my first mistake. Instead of me, the author, just dumping legends into the prologue I let one of the local main characters talk about one of their legends to a traveller and planned to mention more myths and legends just bit by bit over the course of the story. Quick, I need a way how to solve this issue or at least draw attention away from it! Uh... uh... love triangle! With the local, the traveller and ... the author since I don't have any third character yet!

[@aurorastorm442]

A love triangle with the narrator sounds interesting.

[@missizette7017]

Me too but change that to the main character/narrator's governess , bits from diary entries and a conversation she had over tea with a very important character (though a few decades older than they were during the main portion of the book)

[@sanskaripatrick7191]

Well at least you realised and now are changing it. That's the first step to greatness. Good luck brother 👍

[@SamGlaze]

I need Gods because my edgy lone wolf needs somewhere to get his powers to overthrow the evil empire

[@meowtherainbowx4163]

I don’t need society’s approval, but I do need the blessings of dozens of literal forces of nature in the campiest possible human forms!

[@literallyglados]

@@meowtherainbowx4163 also a hippie tree

[@SamGlaze]

MeowTheRainbowX of course! Although, he probably needs an entire 2 chapters of half-assedly trying to refuse the power that’s been bestowed upon him until he finally capitulates to their will well before the halfway mark

[@freetoplayking7362]

either rip off the greeks/romans or make them up (like the diety of edge or rock or metal)

[@PengyDraws]

Wow, it's like you read arifureta!

[@vAqeii]

Good writing advice? Nah that's just a myth

[@Ahalaya]

Oh, good. I was afraid that I'd seen it under my bed the other night. No more nightmares for me!

[@inspectorjavert8443]

Yeah but she's MY Miss (cookie to whoever gets this obscure reference)

[@GeanAmiraku]

I rolled "The God of Death and Obscure, hyper-violent 80s anime" That was surprisingly fitting

[@PantherCat64]

Terrible Writing Advice is the only youtube channel in all of the known universe that does sponsorships right

[@niallreid7664]

Honestly, I think he does it wrong. It goes on forever and when he does it in a villain's voice I can't understand what he's saying and just leave.

[@iamnotinvolved1309]

Internet Comment Etiquette does some amazing ads

[@miamackenzie9946]

Lol, it started out as a funny joke but I’m sorta invested now all the characters have been introduced... maybe

[@connorschultz380]

I also think this is great

[@PantherCat64]

@@miamackenzie9946 Exactly.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

God of Evil and Goddess of Corruption who are chefs in their spare time, happily in love, and who use their powers not to create evil, but to mark that which already exists at being it. (I.E. "Hey, y'know that guy who just killed half a country? What he did is evil, and also he's evil. Do with that what you will.")

[@christiangreff5764]

Reminiscent of Terry Pratchett's character DEATH: He does not kill you, he's just there to bring you to the other side so you don't have to walk alone. Quite nice if you think about it, actually.

[@JaharNarishma]

That's the sad story of prophetic travellers, wandering around and warns about incoming disaster (which they get the blame for bringing). The static proclaimer of evil is less used as a superhuman.

[@christiangreff5764]

@@JaharNarishma Or the story of the highest judges of a world. You could use that for a kind of "redemption" story: the main character is proclaimed evil and has to perform the long, dangerous journey to the realm of the gods to argue his or her case and convince the God of Evil that what he/she did was, in fact, not evil. Or in variation: starting out convinced he/she acted right but then learns on the journey that the action was in fact evil. Finishes the journey anyways to thank said God for showing them the error of his/her ways and then get the label of evil removed because he/she repented.

[@grahamtpeterson]

Bureaucratic style - the Drug Enforcement Agency doesn't force people to take drugs. "Here's our new czar of evil to keep tabs on and recommend policy regarding reported evils."

[@christiangreff5764]

@@StormgemThunder I'd love to see that concept implemented. What's the name of your story?

[@psionicsknight6651]

Don’t forget another of the big ones; Always make the gods-*especially* ones based off real world mythologies and religions-such unlikeable jackasses, it’s really a wonder why people choose to worship them. Especially if said gods *need* worship to exist period. Why do mortals worship such abusive, maybe even monstrous deities? Could it be because, despite their flaws, the gods still have good sides to them? Could there be complex theological arguments that state what humans might see as bad is actually good in the end? Do the gods and there worshippers provide a mutual purpose to one another and therefore justify each other’s existence? Of course not! The worshippers worship the gods... because of power or because the story says so! At least, you know, until the heroes decide to commit divine genocide against the pantheon in the name of “freeing humans from the gods.”

[@mr.cup6yearsago211]

PsionicsKnight in all fairness, the Greek gods, according to most myths, are just, the biggest assholes. Prometheus is the real MVP of Greek mythology.

[@purplecatloverrandompizza]

Percy Jackson But Luke's prospective

[@Overlordough1201]

Humanity: We killed the Gods! Beings who governed all things beyond Mortal reach and kept nearly all mythical creatures like dragons and demons and cosmic horrors in check! **Reality starts warping, Hell and Heaven collapse into the Material plane, Azzothoth shows up, and chocolate starts eating people** Humanity: 👁👄👁

[@BLZ231]

The thing is, Yahweh is in fact an extremely abusive and monstrous deity if you actually read the Bible. (all of it, not just the nice parts) And yet, countless people still believe in and worship Yahweh because they think he’s good. The truth is that humans often can and do believe in irrational things for irrational reasons. Also, if something can be killed by humans, then does it really deserve to be called a God?

[@dragohammer6937]

@@BLZ231 the status of god is more a combination of power and worship than anything else really, so much so that many cultures have their leaders being worshiped as gods. As long as gods have power, and they are worshiped for whatever reason, that's all they need to... be. one way to think about it is to say that when a mortal kills a god, all they really did was destroy the current incarnation of that god. if given enough time(which might for example be seconds for a god whose worship is extremely widespread but centuries for one that is almost completely unknown outside a specific place) a new incarnation of that god would simply come to be. Whether that new incarnation is the same "person"(air quotes since most of the time gods aren't really people) with the same memories and personality or a completely different entity is another question. Maybe it's dependent on how people remember them(since they are powered by worship, in this case), so if all of their core myths and legends are still remembered the same way they where before the god died(perhaps again because the god only stayed dead for a few seconds due to massive worship) they reincarnate the same "person" with the same memories, but the longer it takes more and more is lost as legends are changed and forgotten and the cultural context in which the god originally existed slowly changes or fades away, until after some point the new god of X is a completely different entity. there's also a really easy way to justify people worshiping gods in any setting where magic is a thing(and if there's gods but no magic then WTF): worshiping a god might give you access to divine magic(like the clerics of D&D), so even if you don't agree with your good of choice at everything, it might be a matter of life and death to have enought people that worship whatever god gifts healing magic around so a single pandemic doesn't kill everyone or whatever else.

[@merrittanimation7721]

I legitimately love the design you have for the Trickster God.

[@CountVine]

He reminds me of Nethys

[@NaskaRudd]

@@CountVine Hey glad I wasn't the only one reminded of old Nethy

[@Ralndrath]

Reminds me of an Eldar Harlequin from 40k.

[@VictoriousBard]

Olidamarra, anyone?

[@aristocrocseerofaeons8268]

No religion is complete without one.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

Wait, you mean people DON'T smother their food in Cayenne pepper until it tastes like nothing else? Shit, I've been doing it wrong then

[@ultimatecorgi3392]

I've never really seen an interesting fantasy god that wasn't a power-limited antagonist or Greek-style god who messed around and occasionally helped people. The closest I've found is The Banner Saga, or perhaps The Elder Scrolls (although they always bugged me, since their quests are like a fairground ride that exists in a vacuum.) As a Dungeon Master I've found it's easier and more believable to make them distant, flawed, and limited in power. Otherwise you fall into the pitfall of "why aren't the gods sorting this quest out?" or "whence cometh evil?" If you need to construct a detailed cosmology, my best advice is: 1. Have a basic idea of how the universe came to be, and the history of the world. Were the gods born as vast, unintelligent cosmic beasts that had to figure everything out themselves? Did a single overgod create everything? Have they always existed, or perhaps formed out of universal constants? Don't go into the fine details, but return to this idea for inspiration and consistency. A kernel of origin to help shape the theme and grow them as characters rather than obligatory Dungeon Master fodder. Example: "If all the gods are nature based and the world itself is a great tree, then why is there a machine god? Perhaps he is an extra dimensional invader, or perhaps a manifestation of mankind's desire for control? If that is the case, does that mean his occurrence is natural? Is the natural course of evolution to be supplanted by machines? Are machines an evil parasite, or the next phase of life? Should we fear them? Can we ascend to become them?" 2. Make rules for how power works. What can the gods clearly do, and cannot do? If you want them to be able to break those rules, craft it into the story. Example: "A god cannot kill another god at the Grand Meeting Hall at the End of Time, and so I sent the protagonist to crash the party." Form an explanation to yourself for how the gods haven't destroyed the universe yet, and why the current paradigm stands with mortals having the freedom to do what they want. Is it a perpetual duel between good and evil? Is the world resetting in an apocalypse every few hundred years? Is there a compact or rule among the gods that they must stay in balance? Alternatively, perhaps the paradigm balance has shifted, and now the world is 99% evil? Or 99% good? What would such worlds look like? Is it possible evil would change it's mind, or there could be too much of a good thing? This is why it is good for the gods to be distant, weak, busy, apathetic, or otherwise unable to step in. This is probably the hardest step in creating a cosmology- it's tempting to make gods powerful, but that can ruin the plot. 3. Make your gods specific, emphatic, and interactive. Don't just say "Marcus, the god of smiths." Add meaningful details that will impact the story, or remove them entirely!" Example: "Marcus, the god of mad smiths. It was he who taught mankind how to make bronze, thus bringing about the dawning of the Third Age. It was his tools that felled the last of the dinosaurs, and drove the dragons into hiding behind the mountains at the end of the world. The death wrought by his weapons haunts him, and nearly every maker of weapons finds themselves struck by mental illness grown from his guilt sooner or later in their lives. This is why mindless crafting golems are so critical for war efforts, and we have Zillion the Magnificent to thank for their invention. Some worship Marcus for hopes of metallurgy or gainful work, yet madmen pry apart victims in his name to create ever crueler and effective weapons. Wherever murder is found, a weapon of Marcus is sure to be found also." Another example: "Shrines to Elbion dot the more deserted places of the world. A charitable shy goddess who manifests as a silver doe in the dead of night; one can always find needed medicine at her shrines, but they must go the journey alone else find nothing at all. Pilgrimages to Elbion's shrines in times of plague have been a coming of age story for many young sages, and the demise of ten times their number." 4. Try to avoid cliche gods if you can help it. They're crutches, and you'll find that when you use your imagination rather than fall back on a template, it's easier to grow them into more-interesting characters. Think more about gods that interact with humans in a more meaningful way such as gods of greed, prisons, or charity rather than "the life god, the death god, and the justice god." Try to explore unlikely avenues for gods. "Samrex the Baker is the god of pastries and kindness. A protective, fierce father and patron saint of stable civilizations and stocked larders. Bread rises with his permission, and festivals flourish under his blessing. Samrex feeds the poor but shuns armies- no general would dare bring bread to the battlefield, lest they find it full of rot and maggots the moment it is exposed to the warmth of an oven. Bakers in the greater cities find life easier when they act in good faith and charity to all who need it, and wherever one can find flour, they will find peace and a warm fire. Samrex is welcomed in the divine homes of many a god and has made many friends, but work eternal beckons him to strive alone to feed the future."

[@manmoy4104]

ik this is very late but your bread god Samrex is by far the most creative fictional deity I've ever seen

[@alformodoritos2076]

I didn't expect for TWA to continue his KZbin Cinematic Universe. Now all we need is an Avengers-esque special video. 😂

[@IceQueen975]

Right? I am oddly invested in it.

[@OokamiKageGinGetsu]

Complete with a skybeam and a portal to an alien dimension.

[@Ahalaya]

The video on how to write a massive crossover.

[@theomegajuice8660]

It's also imporant to remember that myths and legends are always 100% factually accurate rather than a symbolic and poetic way of explaining facts of nature and existence in a way that is intuitive to a pre-scientific culture. They are also consistent across cultures within the same world and never get re-contextualised to fit an evolving or branching set of societal norms.

[@maxmcdonald7798]

And for all cultures in the fictional world to have polytheistic religions and for them to be the correct religion in the fictional world.

[@morgantherat]

As it has been for millennia

[@navilluscire2567]

I actually don't mide this sort of thing one bit, in fact I love such settings. Now you say worlds were their mythology is 100% correct but I ask *which version of the myths is correct?* Yes that's right for every classic tale from the myths we're familiar with there's often dozens if not more versions of these stories, ranging from minor difference in details or even completely different key plot points. Heck the version of the myths that most mortals know may in fact be propaganda by some of the gods, there's curnals of truth to them and can even be mostly right but the true tales may differ on a few important details. That is to say the gods may tell a version of their own stories that makes them seem the most good in the eyes of mortals and even other gods! That's not to say all the gods are evil liars but more like it's for PR or sometimes even benevolent gods have to make difficult choices and so certain things might be omitted or altered for the wellbeing of others. (they don't need to know and it won't hurt them if they never find out) Again that's to say the myths can still be like 90% right on most details of the stories, just with a few creative liberties implemented.

[@navilluscire2567]

@@maxmcdonald7798 I actually like the idea of all myths are true settings because that's basically how a lot of cultures thought things worked with gods of different religions. *Many cultures had no problem acknowledging the existence of other gods from other realms and cultures,* heck they might even take to adopting some gods from other regions into their own pantheons or orders of gods.

[@storyteller5215]

I'm still fascinated by "Kumo desu ga, nani ka"'s take on game fantasy genre. It's an awful template(stuck in another world), but it is done really well. And one of their religions, consider the voice that announces that you just leveled up as a God and their main goal is to level up to hear Gods voice again.

[@Redimus]

"We can't have the gods of hydrogen or chlorine wandering about because a pantheon of the periodic table of elements would be way to big." ~begins typing furiously~

[@fantasyshadows3207]

Oxygen: *holding hands with Hydrogen* nah I’m good

[@BobSmith-cg2ek]

Anyone at all: Insults Carbon Carbon: Yeah you don't get to alive anymore, and your entire village will be blighted with poor steel for the rest of days.

[@steelseraph7413]

Why stop there? Have 118 gods for the elements and then include even more gods embodying basic building blocks of reality outside of atoms. Have gods representing quarks, energy, and motion.

[@majorblitz3846]

God of Sodium smite people with kidney condition for eating his sacrifice offering mineral too much.

[@mvalthegamer2450]

@@steelseraph7413 And end up with a religion about as complex as Hinduism

[@kingcrimson1467]

God of Evil 'thinks Undertale is overrated' lol

[@doesntmatter2467]

Plot twist he was the God of Unity, until he mentioned that Undertale was only alright and was immediately sealed deep within the earth, by the other gods, who were as it so happens uber obnoxious Undertale fans.

[@cdru515]

A few years from now, I suppose we'll eventually see "Thinks Deltarune is overrated"

[@JLMetak]

I mean it kind of is, and that's coming from someone who loves the game. THE GAME. Not everything around it.

[@shandaniel2999]

Undertale is now under rated now because people hate it for the fandom. I’ve never seen a toxic fan of Undertale, only people complaining about the fandom.

[@kingcrimson1467]

Shan Daniel I guess you can say the same for Rick and Marty, although that's still loved by a lot of people

[@MariktheGunslinger]

The Lord of the Rings may have frontloaded itself with a creation story, but it was only what was relevant to the plot. The world itself felt bigger because it didn't explain everything, and instead _conveyed_ the strange and mythological aspects of the world as just as scary or fascinating to its characters as well as the audience.

[@baguettegott3409]

Yes, and the thing is Tolkien was really dang good at worldbuilding. That's why people actually care about all the heavy lore from the Silmarillion and stuff. But, as all fantasy writers should remember, they aren't Tolkien. If they wrote a novel like that it would most likely fall fantastically flat because they just assumed that anything that worked for Tolkien must also work for them without putting any further thought into it,

[@libbybollinger5901]

Baguette Gott Tolkien wrote Lord of the Rings to justify his world building, while his imitators all do it the other way around.

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

@@libbybollinger5901 if I ever get around to writing anything, and it's a fantasy story I assure you, It will be because I fell in love with a world I built

[@Cityweaver]

Also, never ever have long term consequences for your gods, the notable exception bring from the backstory, of course. A god can be imprisoned for 1,000 year for a crime in their backstory, but a human-loving god who betrays his/her family to give humans a fighting chance will literally have their crimes ignored within the story---you're gonna need them in the same position of power next book/season to do the same DEM again.

[@brianfrommars]

You've forgotten about the strongest God there is... *THE GOD OF LOVE TRIANGLES* (Dun Dun Duuunnnn)!!!

[@jacobbenns6090]

Aphrodite...

[@hariman7727]

@@jacobbenns6090 I thought she was the goddess of putting out.

[@BonaparteBardithion]

@@hariman7727 She's definitely also the Goddess of Shipping.

[@TheRezro]

And what else is Goddess of Corruption?

[@jacobbenns6090]

@@hariman7727 fair nuff...

[@ScorbunGame]

Goddess of Fertility could also be the Goddess of Nature, just make her the Queen of the Fey and then proceed to do nothing with the fact that fairys exist except when you need them to heal someone. That's TOTALLY what the Fey were like in English Mithlolgy, it's not like they were cruel tricksters or something!

[@SingingSealRiana]

Well some of them where, they have the capability to be good or evil just like everyone else

[@globin3477]

You know, now that I think about it, wasn't Ishtar a goddess of War and Fertility?

[@fantasyshadows3207]

Yeah *_RUN_*

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

and love too. I mean she was the inspiration for the goddess that inspired aphrodite (who also started out as a war goddess, but only in sparta of course) and liked gender nonbinary people so she's inclusive too

[@SingingSealRiana]

Yes and she was not the only one with that combo by fare. It is commen as hell

[@salsaroja9740]

“You look like a renaissance fair got raided by Anarcho-Communists.” What a wonderful burn.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

God of Justice who acts like Internal Affairs for the whole freaking pantheon! (For better or for worse!)

[@lordlames1496]

That's actually a pretty cool idea.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

@@lordlames1496 Thank you!

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

@Christopher Stanley Sounds like a question of whether he's approved of by the actual texts or not. Which could be a matter of who in the world you're asking.

[@incognitoburrito6020]

@Christopher Stanley Either way, if he ever disappears the whole pantheon will be on fire within the week

[@powerist209]

Lhankor Mhy from Dragonpass has interesting aspect. You can file a lawsuit against the ghost to stop haunting a house.

[@jamjar1726]

and remember NEVER put gods in a sci fi setting, NEVER make it questionable as to wether they exist or not and NEVER EVER EVER create false idols in an otherwise 100% genuine pantheon.

[@Tokomaris_Hex]

Dang. Guess all my alien species gods and rituals just gotta go then. Bye my effort. It was nice knowing ya

[@mvpuppy5396]

I actually rolled a 12-sided die and got this. The god of those little chocolate mints in hotels and obscure, hyper-violent 80s anime. I want to live in that universe.

[@iandick1364]

80s anime has a certain... aesthetic appeal to it. Great stuff though.

[@DarkArtistKaiser]

"Thoughtful critique of organized religion is pretty rare in fiction. Usually its one extreme or the other." THANK YOU. I get so tired of this. I can't tell you how annoying it is in media where gods or organized religion is viewed as wholly evil with no redeemable qualities.

[@ravenn2631]

Interestingly enough, militant atheism does not have much differences with fundamentalist religions. Both operate on blind faith, a need to push other people into their beliefs and also have certain strict expectations on how to live a good life with no openness to criticism. It’s just that with militant atheism, logic and reason is their God. Of course that’s also important but too much logic removes any sort of need for compassion or service to others in the process. Honestly, I like the animation Castlevania on adding more nuanced perspectives on religion, where there are both priests who have ulterior motives that actually triggered the vampires to fight against them in the first and also priests or holy sorcerors who help create holy water and such to help fight against the demons fighting under the vampires rather than believing that God will just solve and do everything for them. Honestly, whether you are a theist or not, many enjoy that scene where the demons start ripping out the blood and guts of certain “holy” priests even if they’re supposed to be the villains of this show.

[@howdyimhowdy]

@@ravenn2631 i really don't understand how can someone compare something like atheism to a religion, what are the "strict expectations", rules or dogma that apparently can't be criticized and how can "logic and reason be our god" no really how is that comparable to a literal sentient being which according to some holy book used to interact directly with humanity all the time, but now never does it?not to mention that trying to convince people that trying to belive something which has no evidence is no way "militant",it's almost like their completely different, but one side has to try to bring the other to their level by claiming the same and thus equally posible

[@podemosurss8316]

VlaDDrakkeN Two sagas I'm reading subvert this: How a realist hero rebuilt the kingdom and Arifuretta

[@ziggymoondust2281]

@@howdyimhowdy Let people believe in what they want as long as they don't harm others, is this such a hard concept to grasp?

[@howdyimhowdy]

@@ziggymoondust2281 when people are allowed to belive something, not because it's true, but through faith, leads to thing like organic oils "natural remedies", and the fact that at least a portion of them are going to believe in the more damaging parts of the bible, it hurts people because of how they are gonna act on those beliefs which may harm them or others while having the best intentions

[@omegabet3912]

The Greek mythology isn't even a Love Triangle, it's a goddamn Love Four-dimensional whatever.

[@baguettiregretti1961]

A Love complicated flow chart

[@blakeking1125]

I ran a dnd game once where all magic came from an eldritch abomination who was effectively a tear in reality. The idea was if yoy control it, you are the de facto god of magic. Of course, the players lost interest in the mystery two sessions in.

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Blake King that sounds like 40k with a twist

[@blakeking1125]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 maybe? Never really got into 40k

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Blake King in 40k there’s a chaos god that came from a tear in reality

[@blakeking1125]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 huh. I actually got the idea from the gamer chyoa edition. There's an outsider that becomes important, but not in the same way

[@maxmcdonald7798]

@@blakeking1125 Was"yoy"supposed to be the word You?

[@thongusthetrain4032]

I can’t tell what the artistic integrity knight’s accent is... Maybe a New Yorker with a lisp?

[@scaper8]

I was was thinking, like, bad Chinese? I don't know, but I love it!

[@wasteoftime5848]

It's a speach impediment but I'm not sure what it's called. A 'W' shows up a lot to varying degrees. Especially when it should be an 'R'.

[@Rainbowthewindsage]

It reminds me of a slightly more comprehensible version of Darts from Yugioh Abridged.

[@dustycrustyhomelessman1648]

he swowmds wike he sez uwu awot

[@JackDuripper]

It's a less exaggerated nerd from Robot Chicken

[@pixelpudding3914]

Also don’t forget about the kid god Dominions: Animals, candy, toys, shorts, knee high socks and blazers Notably Absent Dominions: Usefulness, intelligence, Personality: Either annoying/overly innocent and sweet Story role: Friends with some kid version of a monster (50%), disguised as a normal kid (30%), gets the group into trouble (80%), twins with some weird gimmick (65%), loli/shota fetish (200%),

[@thelevel5goblin971]

The goddess of corruption reminded me of Eris form Sinbad.

[@MTdaBlacking]

Eris at least had better animation.

[@oboretaiwritingch.2077]

Don't forget that when hijacking gods and mythological figures from real mythology that you don't have any actual knowledge on them beyond the first 2 paragraphs of Wikipedia, then make them into anime girls and haphazardly throw her into the harem of other mundane girls. Because the important thing when ripping something off isn't presenting why said archetype has been iconic for thousands of years, but because readers can't be bothered to evaluate the value of each character beyond how bangable they are! And oh don't worry if the others call your work stupid or shallow. Just show them your dictionary's worth of convoluted proper nouns no one(not even yourself) bothered to remember! That will show them how "complex" and "deep" your lore is! (Fate series in a nutshell)

[@deadaccount2968]

Reito Shizaki In all fairness, there’s a decent amount of thought put into Fate heroes. But I agree that there is still a lot to be desired... except for Gilgamesh. He is perfect.

[@piririn5052]

OK but also DanMachi

[@kingchickenwing4887]

If only DanMachi actually had the characters be similar to the goddesses they are based off of... (I say "goddesses" because the goddesses aren't really like their mythology counterparts, while most of the gods actually are)

[@whatisupmyfellowamericans8808]

Harsh but fair.

[@TheRezro]

@@deadaccount2968 Fate do it deliberately.

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

One of my biggest pet peeves is when they make one god good and the other evil. It’s such a weird oversimplification of an interesting concept. In many religions, gods aren’t inherently good or bad; even the Christian God, whom is praised for being patient and loving, did some pretty messed up stuff to those he deemed enemies of his people in the Bible. Being good doesn’t necessarily mean being soft or dainty. Gods are not so much entities of either pure sweetness or pure malice, but are like forces of nature. You can control what a God does as much as you can control a hurricane or a sunny day. For some reason, I see this in Greek myth interpretations. It kinda takes away from how complex the stories become. It was one of my problems with the Blood Of Zeus.

[@quintustheophilus9550]

My two cents on the matter: Whether you admit it or not, anyone who lives in the Americas, Europe and parts of Oceania was/is brought up under a christian-influenced culture. It may be a simplifcation to have a god of good and god of evil but you need to remember that's how most people see God and Satan, one shouldering everything that is holy and pure against one that represents sin and death. Consequently, writers apply this logic to other myths, particularly Greco-Roman stories, and that's how we get Hercules/Perseus/Zeus against the forces of Hades.

[@lord_ozymandias]

plus christian’s mostly back then but also today tend to see other gods as just being satan in disguise (ie “pagan” religions, native american ones etc). so ergo “evil gods” wasn’t a foreign concept to them, they’d already made it up (even if it is just satan in a trench coat)

[@colbyhill-nixon6815]

Remember; if something is ancient and/or mythological, then it has enough power to take over the world with. It's not like being ancient has had any affect on this objects amount of power or anything.

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

and nothing ever hapened recently. Every curse, entity and race is ancient. Can't have an antiquated world suddenly have something new (perhaps something less tropey just to bring it full circle) shake things up. Imagine a world of elves dwarves and humans suddenly getting sentient bipedal winged spiders as neighbours, that'd be fun

[@maxthepaladin2147]

@@roguepsykerhaaker4813 And then winged spiders arrived!

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

God of Magic accidentally breaks magic and contracts the heroes to help fix it.

[@IceQueen975]

I'd read it.

[@Janoha17]

Or the villain becomes the God of Magic and killing him makes all magic disappear.

[@killgriffinnow]

@@Janoha17 You know that is the plot of The Lord Of The Rings? This is why the elves have to go away from Middle Earth.

[@Janoha17]

@@killgriffinnow I was actually referring to Final Fantasy VI.

[@adrianmcbride1666]

@@killgriffinnow I am fairly certain that Sauron is not the god of magic, particularly in that he isn't really a god. Regardless from what I gather it is more a case of elves just not coexisting well in the world made flawed by Melkor.

[@AlssyaMacki]

I love how the Cthulhu Cult is just chilling with their donuts, even after everyone else ran off.

[@iexist1300]

They're more interested in recruits than sponsorships

[@12677789]

What was the source of magic? Aliens I guess. Did someone say Naruto?

[@johnwotek3816]

not sure if it is a ref to the manga itself or the area 51 meme

[@DarkEdge1231]

@@johnwotek3816 The actual manga. Basically by the end of the series it's all revealed that all the ninja magic stuff was the result of aliens. Yup Naruto was about dimension hopping aliens this entire time.

[@johnwotek3816]

@@DarkEdge1231 yeah yeah, i know, i was just pointing out the double sense

[@TheRezro]

@@DarkEdge1231 It is in fact whole genre... it strain from Third Clarke's Law.

[@hll4393]

@@DarkEdge1231 excuse me? It's been a while since I read the begenning of the naruto manga but they explained the ninja abilities like this??

[@lukasnovella9001]

You forgot the 2 types of pantheons 1- the one where there’s a number of God’s of General Things. Point is, you could have them all in a room and name them all 2- the Pantheon where there’s a god for EVERYTHING. We’re got the fire god, the water god, the god of putting bugs in people’s bed, the god of dogs scares by lighting, the god of terrible writing advice. Etc.

[@IceQueen975]

#2 is the Greek pantheon, you can say it XD

[@ViridianForests]

The "Pantheon" if you can even call it that at this point of the world I'm creating is one where every word, every concept and such that people know of is translated into a god or goddess. Goddess of Trampolines? Yes. Goddess of the word "yes", yes. Pointy things, fluffy things, staring, speaking, typing, when your leg pumps up and down while you're sitting and it just goes on and on, when your toast falls with the side covered with stuff face down on the ground and so on. Every concept! Idea and thing that has, could or will happen. And Greek Pantheon-style can just show up on Earth whenever they want to. There is nobody who isn't somehow related to the gods by this point I guess.

[@jonsnor4313]

isnt 2 shintoism with various random lesser gods?

[@Rainbowthewindsage]

@@ViridianForests sounds kinda like my spirit world. I have the top gods that embody broad concepts. And then the spirits that embody more specific things.

[@kingchickenwing4887]

@@ViridianForests Question: Why is there a god for every single thing in your story?

[@theeshyguy]

"An impenetrable wall of proper nouns" is such a raw line

[@scottmantooth8785]

or in my case an over abundance of compound superlatives and greatly exaggerated ramblings of hyperbole' and run on sentences of epic proportions

[@nottherealpaulsmith]

has anyone ever done a fantasy balkans where there are several clashing groups/religions that all hate each other?

[@burritowyrm6530]

Paul Smith dude high fantasy hundred years war would be amazing

[@aristocrocseerofaeons8268]

Yup. Have an area in my Fantasy world based around ancient-era Balkans, with cultures similar to the ancient Thracians, Dacians, and Illyrians duking it out impressively...

[@nidohime6233]

Is called real life.

[@SepulchureValen]

@@burritowyrm6530 You have Berserk, which kinda does a Hundred year war thing. Although we don't actually see 100 years of it. And it's Dark fantasy and not High Fantasy.

[@AureliusLaurentius1099]

Fantasy Vietnam

[@TheWampam]

And don't forget that Polytheism is just like multiple monotheistic churches next to each other.

[@SMT-ks8yp]

And call people who worship evil gods (which is a crime because of antisocial practices) HERETICS because HERESY sounds cool and surely does not mean a wrong way to practice the same religion.

[@khaosctrlb47]

Don't forget to tell everyone that your society is polythestic but make everyone act henothestic

[@cephalonorcan4256]

How could you forget sexy elf lady who only wears leaves and stuff for the nature god

[@SlapstickGenius23]

A naiad or a dryad?

[@canaisyoung3601]

I thought those were nymphs. Or are they the human women who dress like that in worship of a naiad or dryad?

[@marvalice3455]

Fun fact; I usually put the goddess of nature as my "evil" deity because she has no real morality, and only cares about expanding her domain without any care about the future (remember the Great Dying? That was 100% natural) or those in her preview

[@deadaccount2968]

If we’re going by DnD terms a nature god would probably be true neutral. Nature creates and destroys many things, but it is ultimately indifferent unless you’re actively threatening it. Then it drops a tree on your grandchildren.

[@marvalice3455]

@@deadaccount2968 in forgotten realms sure. I did put quotes around evil for a reason though. Its not really evil if they were never going to do anything else. The goddess of nature is as caring as a warm summer day, as generous as a tsunami and as loving as the arctic ice. Take from that ad you will ;)

[@patrickbuckley7259]

@@marvalice3455 She Protec, She Attac, but most importantly... She will do either in equal abundance to anyone based on her whims, regardless of whether or not it benefits or hinders her because mother nature isn't a bitch, she just insane.

[@sofaris576]

One of my favourite goddesses is the Nature goddess Viridi. She is basicly a eco terrorist and a cartoon villain. But a pretty awesome one. She is funny, bad ass and intimidating. And she has the best villain introduction ever. Simple yet effective.

[@ungureanubogdan2398]

So poison ivy on steroids ?

[@aname848]

we call it the "Skip cutscene" button, unfortunately not every story has invented it yet

[@sayrus01]

I've zoned out for pages upon pages of lore in fantasy books. Pretty sure that's the equivalent.

[@venlajunnikkala2938]

"nature godesses are usually just these motherly beings" *demigods have war flashbacks*

[@aguywithalotofopinions412]

I’m not sure if this whole video is shaming Rick Riordan or praising him

[@MPHJackson7]

The answer is: yes

[@ЗояКалайджиева]

@@MPHJackson7 agree - both

[@akhazane6922]

I think..... Shpramnig

[@CH4R0N_TH3_SP1D3R]

I LOVE HIS TRIALS OF APOLLO BOOK MY MOM OR DAD READS THE BOOKS TO ME I AM SO EXCITED FOR THE NEW BOOK!

[@akhazane6922]

@@CH4R0N_TH3_SP1D3R Its being released in October sometime

[@Sigmaairav]

I've been building a world to write a story on for about 17 years now...I'm at the stage where I've finished creating the physics in which the universe will operate. Short version: 9 types of particles collectively called mana particles that function as fundamental particles that influence the interactions of all other, larger particles that make up atoms and whatnot. Mana in this universe responds to each individual's will and allows one to manipulate aspects of reality as they see fit dependent on individual traits and other factors. I wrote a few prototype versions of a story revolving around a universe of mana in my teens and eventually refined the background information to the point that I can start writing again. I drew heaps of concept art for fauna, flora, locations, weapons, armor, spell-circles, maps, written original languages etc. I composed music that reflects some of the settings everything takes place in. I've developed an original spoken language I call Via. I've developed several timelines based on various in lore characters and planned out a rough story path for events in this universe to take place in...What I have yet to develop are the actual cultures, politics, and religions to populate the world and this is the part I kinda became stuck on. I have all this stuff developed and yet have not gotten past the third chapter in one of my two novels in the making. I also plan to completely rewrite the original unfinished novel I started in my teens once my current project is FINALLY done. This video strikes a chord with me regarding lore dumps because I am at this point in which I am trying to figure out how my protagonist is going to learn about things and at what pace and in a way that is somewhat believable. My protagonist is a human who got consumed by a hole in the air encountered while walking home from college in the mundane non-mana based universe, presumably dies, only to awaken with selective amnesia in the middle of a crater in a forest. The story is written in first person and is supposed to let the reader learn about this world at the same pace as the protagonist from this limited perspective. This is where it becomes rather tricky because I don't want to and cannot conceivably dump all the lore upon the reader or protagonist all at once. There's just too much of it, I've made something that is on a multiversal scale with lots of nuances that can only be learned about over a period of time through experiences. At this point I'm considering writing discovery style and developing the rest as I go using what I already made as a guide in order to facilitate the learning experiences of the protagonist and iron out any kinks later. At any rate, these Terrible Writing Advice videos do help give me some perspective with my own writing endeavors. I appreciate these videos existence as a result, so thank you for making them ^-^

[@mr.scarytheterry5039]

You might want to hold off on the overwhelming world building.

[@carbonado3905]

this is a bit late but i would try to have a side character give bits and pieces about the traditions and mythology, as that seems to be a more natural way of getring info then just a big ol "heres a bunch of lore thst feels forced and has no actual impact besides a chapter where it takes the main foucus and will later be disregarded"

[@axios4702]

So you spent 17 years making a world... wow... I'm trying to write something myself and I doubt I would ever have the dedication or mind power to device a world up to its very atoms like you. I'm more of a discovery writer. This is character X who is in situation Y with characters W and Z. Lets see what happens! I have a general idea of the world but dont adress stuff, until they are important. I'm rambling incoherently now, but the point is you've picked my interest. Is there any project name or something I can google in the future to read it when you are done?

[@Sigmaairav]

@@axios4702 I'm posting my stuff to World Anvil as I publish my writing. I procrastinate frequently so progress is unavoidably slow on my updates however, I have published an article. Look up World anvil Mana Horristoné and it should show up in results. Furthermore, I make music which you can find by looking up Sigma Airav on either musicoin.com or reverbnation.com

[@KP3droflxp]

Just hint at most of the stuff except for the basics and let people figure it out on their own, gives the story more depth. Maybe even shoe some subtly wrong explanations because its always annoying when you meet people who know everything all the time

[@synflwr]

So me and my friends were coming up with crack Gods for our roleplay and we got some crazy things... Brie, the Goddess of Cheese and her girlfriend the Goddess of Goats were some of my favourites. Not to mention how one of them was called Voldemort, the God of Death. This is the best roleplay I’ve done.

[@platinumchromee3191]

I gotta say roleplay on crack is the best one

[@ndhart3213]

I got one, Luka or Ervin which is the god of magic

[@LOBricksAndSecrets]

"Skip Lore button" sounds like something video games would charge microtransactions for

[@ahniandfriends123]

I remember a computer game that would give you a pop-up message telling you that by skipping the cutscene, you will miss out on the story (or lose important information), whenever you clicked anywhere in the cutscene. That game was made back in the 90s.

[@Leivve]

*Rolled chart* God of Time and dead memes How appropriate actually....

[@coldmossonarock7743]

Bronos: he who has seen countless pepes bloom and wither in a time meaningless to his existance.

[@Abominatrix650]

Please make it so that Rage Comics are fresh, relevant and good again. I miss them. Simpler times

[@rainbowthedragoncat6768]

1:15 made me think of how to subvert this, and now I have a story idea. A story about the gods creating the universe, and they actually debate stuff and have their own ideas on how the world should be. Eventually two of the gods get in a REALLY heated argument, while the other gods are populating the place, and later both of the two gods race to gather followers from the newly created people. Then the other gods find out and are SUPER pissed at them. Boom, god war.

[@rubixcube4467]

One of the best ways I’ve seen this done was one super powerful but very crazy god make the world just for kicks, and then leave it to go toy with something else. The gods of all the smaller worlds then basically do everything in their power to keep from getting noticed by said crazy god. Also gives a reason why the gods don’t do much; they’re too busy trying to make the world seem like a boring blip in the creators eyes.

[@almostirrelevant9181]

I have to say, this is the only channel where I see that the ad at the end is three minutes long and I get excited.

[@coldmossonarock7743]

The ad is introduced so smoothly with the rest of the video that i most of the time fall for it, and end up watching it.

[@KingOpenReview]

"Nature gods and goddesses tend to emphisize the good parts of nature." *Peryite has entered the chat.*

[@dafoex]

Those lore stones could fit into some sort of glove or gauntlet that enables the wearer to wield unlimited power over the universe! You could call it... The Unlimited Gauntlet!

[@connordarvall8482]

6:46 I'm guessing you read some Greek mythology recently, didn't you?

[@AchiBellarosa464]

The odd timing of this when I was literally thinking of this very topic regarding a universe my sister and I have been building for over ten years.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

Zeus: "Love triangle? That sounds boring? Love dodecahedron, now that's my kind of party."

[@MrDj232]

As a lore junkie, I actually approve of heaping lore on like cayenne pepper and including huge exposition dumps early on.

[@SingingSealRiana]

I am a sucker for some mythical exposition in the prologue ^^