The Emergence of Islam

[@MythVisionPodcast]

Learning about the rise of Islam in history is like uncovering a hidden treasure trove of knowledge. It's not just about understanding the past, but also gaining insight into the present and shaping a better future. So buckle up and get ready to embark on an enlightening journey through time and culture! Correction: I misspelled Dr. Reynolds last name in his first appearance on the video.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Turns out its just a scuffed plagiarism of judaism n christianity/zoroasters stuff

[@ncroc]

You should get Dan Gibson on the show too.

[@OdonLafontaine]

@@ncroc He should get Dr. Robert Martin Kerr!!!!

[@manbearpig3507]

do u ever watch Kings and Generals youtube channel they have an amazing series on early Muslim expansion and 1 episode on pre Islamic Arabia

[@ncroc]

@@manbearpig3507 I do but their videos are based on classical Islamic sources. You should watch Dan Gibson's youtube videos or his movie the Sacred City.

[@HHasan-of2vi]

Thanks Derek for frequently bringing Islamic topics, people are curious to know more about Islam, Quran, Ahadeeth and Biography of Prophet Muhammad.

[@stevenv6463]

Dr. Reynolds's yt channel has a lot of good videos on the academic study of Islam Also Derek's questions here are so much more well informed on the academic conversation on Islam than when he started. Looking forward to more content on Islam.

[@Magx451]

The new set up with multiple camera angles is amazing! Also a good video.

[@matthewpopp1054]

Just subscribed to his channel. I’ve seen his stuff before and knew he’d be on here sooner than later. By the way you guys were so simpatico

[@zdzislawmeglicki2262]

It's hard to escape the impression that Islam is a form of Arian heresy. In spite of Constantinople's pressure Arianism was alive and well, especially in North Africa that was still dominated by Visigoths at the time even if conquered somewhat earlier by Belisarius on behalf of emperor Justinian. Could it be that the ease with which Arab Muslims spread throughout North Africa was due to Arians of that region seeing their own beliefs in Islam and thus the liberation from the yoke of Constantinople?

[@Apkaa]

Is that the reason bible still support There is only one GOD not three in one or one in three with all their might and power they can't remove it

[@zdzislawmeglicki2262]

@@Apkaa Although the concept of the Holy Trinity became officially the formal canon of Christianity at the Council of Nicaea in 325CE, and embedded in the Nicaean "Credo" (statement of faith), there are many statements in the Old and New Testaments that can be interpreted as suggestive of it. If you're interested, see a Wikipedia article on "Trinity" for a thorough discussion of the concept, its history, and indeed Biblical references that can be interpreted as "Trinitarian." The important point to keep in mind is that the Bible is so large, and so rich, and so ambiguous in places that you can infer from it anything you want.

[@tsaoh5572]

Yes, yes, and yes. Add to this that both the Sassanids and the Romans made extensive use of Arab mercenaries for many centuries prior to the rise of islam, to the extent that local Arab mercenary warlords had practically taken over much of the Middle East prior to the rise of islam, and the image appears that Muhammad was nothing more than a deified local warlord used to legtimise an Arian heresy and a new empire based on Arab, rather than Persian or Roman supremacy. And, in all likelihood, much of this centered around Palestine or Jordan in its early origins, not the Hejaz.

[@ayyoubes-sejjary6014]

😊😊

[@nazmulbhuiyan1982]

I think the reason Mecca doesn't register as a trading centre because Westerners always view trade to be from South or East Asia to Arabia. But what I believe is that Meccan traders were involved in trading with East Africa, and I believe evidence of Meccan trade should be looked into East Africa and not other parts of Asia. When the Quraish went against Prophet Mohammed the place he took refuge to was Abyssinia, present day Ethiopia.

[@king_halcyon]

Interesting observation

[@Robert-n4h]

There is no water there and no port. That's why the Sauds are concreting over the city. There is no evidence before the mid 700's. The kiblas point to Petra before 720's.

[@taqwatrucking]

Quran is not the words of Muhammad. Just to let non Muslims people know this

[@ummzaynul370]

Muhammed peace be upon him.

[@Robert-n4h]

Correct it is actually corruption of old Christian Aramaic psalms, mostly anti-trinitarian

[@Robert-n4h]

​@ummzaynul370 Mohammed did not exist when and where SIN (Standard Islamic Narrative) said he did. Mecca did not exist in the 600's and is not found on any map of the day. Which of the 37 known Qua'rans is the correct one? Over 90,000 conflicts in meaning between the versions.

[@ummzaynul370]

@Robert-n4h And your an Expert in the Qur'aan and Muhammad peace be upon him?

[@ummzaynul370]

@Robert-n4h go study the bibles and read this: Isaiah 42 11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices; let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice. Let the people of Sela sing for joy; let them shout from the mountaintops. It's only been happening in makkah for 1455 AH year.

[@nomanor7987]

The truth is so much more interesting than the myth. Wow!

[@inquisitivemind007]

Muhammad's goal was the Holy Land Q5:21 which he was facing for 17/18 months before the qibla changed to Mecca. Towards the end of his life he engaged in Zionist activities to capture the Holy Land Q5:21 as shown in the Stephen Shoemaker interview - that's why the Jews thought Muhammad was the Messiah as reported in Theopanes 817AD and why someone in the Jewish community in the mid 8th century wrote in The Secrets of Rabbi Šim‘on ben Yohai "...He shall raise up over them a prophet [Muhammad] in accordance with His will, and He will subdue the land [Israel] for them; and they shall come and restore it with grandeur..."

[@nomanor7987]

@@inquisitivemind007 but he failed to conquer the Holy Land.

[@inquisitivemind007]

@@nomanor7987 yes Umar was the one who captured Jerusalem and was given the title Faruq (Redeemer) and started riding on a donkey like the Messaih - Muhammad attempted but failed.

[@shahidachoudhury6925]

@@nomanor7987 For you not for Muslims. For us the blessed/ Holy land is Makkah . Secondly Madina ,3rd holy one is Masjidul Aqsa . No He (SAW) didn’t do it but he successor did this .

[@hiview44]

Horus is a huge fan and follower of both your channel and Dr. Reynold's. I owe you guys so mush for the knowledge and joy learning valuable and insightful academic information about Islam and the Quran. So many thanks regards to both of you.

[@js1423]

Keep it up with the great work!

[@Jay_in_Japan]

You know someone's a serious scholar on Islam and/ or Arabic when their bookshelves look like that. Cool to see a Western scholar having those kinds of books, you don't see that often

[@ConservativeArabNet]

Almost all authors of Hadith are from non Arab region from south Russia today !!

[@jesonchase2233]

Not really. They are from persian empire region

[@8_bit_Geek]

There is also a scholar who said the real Mecca was at Petra and had videos showing how the verses matched with the area and how the early mosques all faced Jerusalem or Petra and the later ones Mecca

[@pakiman47]

Nonsense. There's a Christian polemecist whose methodology has been thoroughly refuted who came up with that nonsense

[@nmkzf]

There is no interruption to Hajj to Mecca from the time of Ibrahim till today, even when some installed idols in and on top of al-Kabah, the prophet Mhammad birth place Qureshi tribe around Kabba, The exiled of Hajer and Ismael to the wilderness of mecca, Where Petra was well established city and it is the Caravans route.

[@shahidachoudhury6925]

He was trying to establish garbage. name of that so called scholars last name is Gibson .

[@fatma3238]

There is also an interesting you tube video that mount sinai is in Saudi Arabia. Search it on you tube, I now believe that mount sinai is in Saudi Arabia.

[@nosmokejazwinski6297]

He is not a scholar nor does he have any actual credentials. He’s just a man that came up with a story that’s very interesting and appealing if you ignore all history and countless flaws and contradictions in the story

[@gazikhan3668]

Excellent analysis. No words are adequate to express the feelings with our limited knowledge. Constant study many open up our hearts to establish this very heavenly but realistic development of God's presentation.

[@AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen]

👏🙂 Very Interesting I just subscribed to Dr. Gabriel Said Reynolds. Great video

[@8_bit_Geek]

Best explanations I’ve heard for Islam were that Christians who fled the Roman Empire settled east of the empire and were free to practice their religion. Many of the early Christians didn’t believe in the divinity of Christ. After the war the Nabateans were fired by both sides and they decided to conquer their old employers but many of those early Muslims considered themselves Christians and Jews and were considered heretics by Catholics and orthodox.

[@omarrasman]

That's an excellent historical / critical explanation. I think Turkish scholar Mustafa Akyol states as such in his book "The Islamic Jesus."

[@Jay_in_Japan]

Honestly something like that would explain a great deal about Islam. The stories it shares with apocryphal Christian writings, shared beliefs with early heterodox Christian groups, etc.

[@oceanmachine1906]

"but many of those early Muslims considered themselves Christians and Jews" "Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he submitted in all uprightness and was not a muskrik. Indeed, those who have the best claim to Abraham are his followers, this Prophet, and the believers. And Allah is the Guardian of those who believe." - Qur'an, Surah 3:67-68 The Qur'an never identifies with Jews or Christians, there isn't a single instance.

[@deadcaliph6414]

I think the understanding so far, is that Aramaic-speaking non-Trinitarian Christians converted a lot of Arabs to their fold, the Arabs gained leadership after taking advantage of the weakened empires, and they started reading the Aramaic scripture, which were more or less words written for a church sermon, but thought they were reading it in Arabic. Because its a similar language with the same wirting script. This is why in tafsirs they explain many possible explanations for certain words, its because its not an Arabic word.

[@oceanmachine1906]

@@deadcaliph6414 [ This is why in tafsirs they explain many possible explanations for certain words ] No it's because the language of Arabic is one of the most complex languages, which is something you wouldn't know because you don't read it.

[@radwanabu-issa4350]

The near end is prominent in Islam and Muslims should believe so as a permanent spiritual state keeping the believer in an allert state for healthy faith. This should be the case 14 hundred years ago and a 100 thousand years from now!

[@groundzero5708]

lol not

[@khanofcaledonia6413]

Quran was rearranged by the prophet as instructed by God. So, some verses revealed in Madina may become part of meccan suras based on the applicability for the future followers. It would be good to know which verse Gabriel is exactly talking about.

[@obaidulhaque7687]

AGREED , TOTAL QURAN INSCRIPTION AND WRITING AND RE ARRANGE BY PROPHET HIMSELF, HE WAS DEFINITELY LITERATE PERSON , BUT QURAISHI MAKE A LIE HE WAS ILLITERATE ,

[@hamadalkhalifa2323]

​@@obaidulhaque7687No ignorant. Prophet Muhammad SAW was illiterate. He couldn't read and write. Angel Gabriel instruct where to put the verse orally.

[@tulpas93]

That's adorable! It's amazing what people will believe.

[@peaceandlove5214]

Islam is a holy evil former Muslim here.

[@kamskas6226]

Thanks

[@MythVisionPodcast]

Thank you so much for your support. I seriously appreciate you.

[@kamskas6226]

@@MythVisionPodcast I must say you asked brilliant questions. Hopefully, you could get Ahmad AlJallad and Emran ElBadawi as guests soon.

[@danielharrison1065]

Ex Christian and Muslim Alhamdulillah from UK 😇☝️☪️

[@thenun1846]

Arab ex Muslim here. May Allah misguide us all🤲

[@AbdulazizKider]

​@@thenun1846 I pray that you come to your senses, and Allah(s.w) guides you to the straight path.

[@thenun1846]

@@AbdulazizKider no thanks. I'm happy that Al-lah misguided me. May he misguide you too 🤲

[@KalliAbdoury]

أنت عربي فعلا؟​@@thenun1846

[@mosaadghoneim2117]

شكرا جزيلا.

[@السرطاوي-د9ب]

salam from Dallas Texas great job young man but listen there is the missing link that iwithout it Islam can not be fathomed. you need to discuss why Quran in arabic. without answering this question things would be scattered all over.

[@anissa9304]

True

[@asattar973]

Dr. Ali Ataei. Scholar of Greek Hebrew and Arabic... Perfect person for topic

[@johndutchman]

Excellent episode . thank you

[@dirkcampbell5847]

Love to hear Gabriel (Jewish angel) Saïd (descendant of Muhammad ) Reynolds (old German 'powerful ruler') deal with the question of Muhammad's birthplace described in the Qur'an in a way that cannot refer to Mecca. Lots of scholars think it describes Petra.

[@rashidaquil5284]

Petra doesn't have original arabic language

[@dirkcampbell5847]

​@@rashidaquil5284 Well yes, that would be one of the factors to discuss! How can we know exactly what form of Arabic the Nabataeans spoke or wrote?

[@user-nf6ot5di4o]

​@@dirkcampbell5847 indeed was arabic predating, hebrew?

[@dirkcampbell5847]

@@user-nf6ot5di4o I don't know B. Is that relevant?

[@IbnAlHimyari]

It Can’t be. The language of the Quran does not represent that milieu. The Hijazi locale of the Quran remains the standard. The place of worship of the Muslims mentioned by early chroniclers is clearly described as being a place far away and isolated from the boundaries of the Roman Empire at that time. A lot of rituals and practices are mentioned in the Quran that are found in southern Arabia and Hejaz and not in northern Arabia.

[@newintellectual.]

I am an atheist and a secularist, but this Mythvision guy is stupidly ignorant about the violent nature of Islam. You can read Mein Kamph "alone" and you will sympathize with the "human emotion" of hate that he wanted to portray. Beautiful, isn't it?

[@s55417]

Haha you are making claims about Islam without giving any proof and then you are describing Hitler‘s book who was most likely Atheist. Make some sense 😂

[@rashidrahman9673]

Abraham settled his wife and son in Makkha around 3,800 years ago, zamzam well was known throughout Arabia,

[@Yeshua_is_YHWH]

What evidence do you have for this?

[@groundzero5708]

zamzam . water is put on to mineral containers . and it was purified by modern science

[@Yeshua_is_YHWH]

@@groundzero5708 Evidence... what evidence do you have for this? Or are you just making stuff up?

[@Fundamental_Islam.]

Power, fame, money? 😢no no no! Aisha reported: The family of Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, never ate to their fill of wheat bread for three consecutive nights, ever since they had come to Medina, until he passed away. Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6089, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2970

[@OrdoMallius]

23:20 what could be responsible is Abd Al Maliks language reform that took place. Could be a case of lost in translation.

[@MR_Money_Bags]

Thanks🎉

[@BT-sc6lu]

Really glad Mythvision is talking about Islam with scholars from an academic standpoint. I know it can turn into islamphobia and just polemics when it comes to studying/talking about Islam (like that hack Woods).

[@bewareofcults]

No such thing as " islamophobia". Utter cringe made up word to stifle legitimate criticism of Islam. Is this channel that mainly focuses on Christianity " Christianophobe"? NO. SO stop the non sense word " Islamophobia".

[@Hastenforthedawm]

@@bewareofcults your comment is even funnier given your username. But we should remove "homophobia" and "transphobia" too because those are more BS postmodern myths. These words are used to legalize practices and deem anyone who disagrees a bigot, even though this facade of legalizing it has only for the first time in history happened in just the last 50 years in the West That said the term "Islamophobia" while a left-wing term, does describe a legitimate problem rooted in Christian culture (which spills into secular atheist culture) very similar in nature as the phenomenon we call "antisemitism" (even though that's a poor choice of words too). Becoming secular doesn't instantly change anything, and one only needs to look towards popular public opinion (and the way it is portrayed in the media) of westerners towards the middle east and Asia to see that it is not just a "made up" phenomenon, that the west has some very dangerous views towards Islam and the middle eastern and Asian cultures.

[@AizenIsKubo]

Stop with that BS "Islamophobia" narrative. Why are you Western atheists such Islamic d suckers? Seriously?

[@user-nf6ot5di4o]

​@@bewareofcults indeed these doubled standard people

[@Hastenforthedawm]

@@AizenIsKubo stop with the BS "homophobia" narrative

[@rajeshsyal9269]

During last of 6th century and beginning of 7th century nabetian's fought against Iranian rulers . Movement of momins followers of issa ibne mariyam ( Rasoolallah) in Hajaj Arabia was joined by them .

[@Pax-Africana]

The question you raise at 22:47 mn is right on the spot. Muhammad is indeed a Messianic title imported from the Hebraic protocols to honor affectuously the Messiah(Christ), like someone would say today "His Majesty" to address the king. Jesus being said to be the rejected Messiah(Christ), rejected by His own people the Jews and being now rejected by the Children of Ismael for being a Jew... "We want our own Arabian Messiah, our own book in our Arabian tongue, and our own qibla not Jerusalem, the Qibla for the Jews our enemies...! This is the complaint that is recurrent throughout the Reminder aka Qur'an. As we know from Deuteronomy 18:15-19, Messiah(Christ) is a Prophet like Moses. Even though on the ground Abu Quasim looks more like Moses than Jesus does. What is needed in this situation is a placeholder to step in to make the Messiah(Christ) accepted by the Arabian nation. "O you who is covered in the mantle..." or you who covers like with a mantle..." The one who covers is Abu Quasim by birth. This is the simile the Author of the surats alluded to. If there is someone called Mohammad by birth, then it would no longer be a simile as the author claimed. But If Mohammad is used as a euphemism to avoid saying "Messiah(Christ)" then the simile makes sense as a marketing plot ! And the one being marketed to the Arabs is Jesus the Messiah(Christ) announced in the Torah by Moses but rejected by his own tribe, the Jews just as the Qureish were rejecting the Gospel by rejecting their own Evangelist.

[@oceanmachine1906]

[ "We want our own Arabian Messiah, our own book in our Arabian tongue, and our own qibla not Jerusalem, the Qibla for the Jews our enemies...! This is the complaint that is recurrent throughout the Reminder aka Qur'an. ] Muhammad never claims to be the Messiah and the Qur'an reaffirms that Jesus was this role. The Qur'an just calls Muhammad a Prophet and "Messenger of Allah". [ As we know from Deuteronomy 18:15-19, Messiah(Christ) is a Prophet like Moses. ] Deuteronomy 18 doesn't describe anything Messianic, it only describes some future Prophet.

[@Pax-Africana]

@@oceanmachine1906 Abu Quasim never claimed to be Mohammad by name, you should say. Arab supremacists did! He said Muhammad is euphemism for Messiah(Christ). Since Jesus is said to be that Messiah(Christ), then Jesus is Muhammad. Now, If you don't know what euphemism is, then check the dictionary.

[@Pax-Africana]

@@oceanmachine1906 Deuteronomy 18: 15-19 was quoted as a Messianic prophecy by Jesus in Luc 24, by Peter in Acts 3:22-24; by Stephen in Acts 7:1-49; by the woman at the well by John 4:24-25, even in Surat Mariam...

[@oceanmachine1906]

@@Pax-Africana the Qur'an never equates or confuses Muhammad with Isa.

[@oceanmachine1906]

@@Pax-Africana how Deuteronomy 18 is quoted in the New Testament is irrelevant to the intentions of the writer of Deuteronomy, which is clearly not a Messianic prophecy.

[@baran1170]

Great conversation Thanks

[@cheps76]

I’m halfway, and this guy doesn’t explain his view. I’m sorry but the interview goes in many ways. What is the emergence of Islam? I’ll try another video

[@rafiisaat8708]

Read the Asbabun Nuzul of the Quran i.e. The explanation of the revelation.

[@emodyhasan4443]

"How can Allah be the name of the monotheistic god if Mohommad's (PBUH) father's name was Abdullah which means servant of Allah (God), since Muhammad's father was a pagan worshipper before Islam was spread? Does that mean that Allah is a pagan name?" A very good question indeed. This was also something I was researching when I started practicing my faith. Where shall I start? let’s start with Prophet Ibrahim(pbuh) or other wise known as Abraham the father of prophets. Prophet Ibrahim(pbuh) had two sons Isaac(PBUH) and Ishmael(PBUH). The Arabs are descendants of Prophet Ibrahim(PBUH) via Ishmael(PBUH). The Jews were descendants via Isaac(PBUH). As such the Arabs knew about Prophet Ibrahim and his monotheistic God. When the Arabs started developing their own Semitic language arabic, the word they used to refer to the unseen God of Prophet Ibrahim was “Allah”. Which was why, way before Islam, Arabic speaking Christians and Jews were using the word Allah in their Arabic bible. Since Arabs and Jews have a common history via Prophet Ibrahim(PBUH), you will find that they had a lot of similar traditions too, even before Islam. Traditions such as circumcising (it’s a tradition which started from Prophet Ibrahim). Now during pre-Islamic Mecca the pagan arabs were not pagans in the sense that they were worshipping a different God. They still acknowledged the supreme unseen God Allah. As time passed, the worship of the one God alone became almost non existent among the pagan arab culture. The Arabs also attributed 3 daughter deities to the one God, quiet similar to how the Christians attributed a literal Son to the one God. They named them Al-Lat, Manat and Al-‘Uzzá and made idols of them (which was included among the 360 idols). Which was why the Prophet’s father’s name was Abdullah. But Allah corrects them in the Quran quran.com/53/19-23 So, Name Allah is means a supreme unseen good. But I will recommend you to see what is the defination of Allah in Quran. See sura Ikhlas. quran.com/112

[@nakeebissadeen1606]

Gospels in Old Testament are the mixture of 3 things. One, Injeel which is the word of God, two, what Jesus said and three what others saw in Jesus. It's a third party account of the above three. In Islam, Quran is the revelation from God. Hadeeth is what prophet Mohammed (pbuh) said and Seerah is the historical details of the prophet and his companions. Quran has the highest accuracy of preservation, Hadeeth is only accepted if authentic narrative is confirmed by reliable sources and Seerah is taken only at the historical context.

[@pakiman47]

Why would there be pre quranic literature about the events surrounding the quran? That makes no sense

[@kilianklaiber6367]

No conspiracy theory is necessary. The scholar admits that the Quran is quite obscure and that narrations in the sira and hadith were invented in order to make sense of the quran. Thus, the original title for Jesus in the quran, the praised one, which is also a title for Jesus in the bible, namely benedictus, was misinterpreted to mean the Muhammed of Islam. So it's not an evil conspiracy but just human error.

[@Aliali-vc3pk]

What bullshit nonsense paganism bullshit 😅

[@king_halcyon]

​@@Aliali-vc3pkur life is bullsh*t

[@baba.volanath]

I am already a follower

[@farmuhqas]

Also as we give the Quran for free for anyone who wants to learn can I get a free copy of Mr Gabriel Said' s book pls.

[@rashidrahman9673]

Makkah was the first, capitalist city in the world, they brought goods from East African coast, Ethiopia, western coast of India and also Sri Lanka, took these goods to Syria and Iraq...

[@dougreed9843]

I guess my question to this is that my understanding is that Western Rome wrote the Bible and Eastern Roman empire wrote the Quran either way it was Roman scribes writing both books is my understanding I may be wrong in that but that would be in Constantinople road the Quran or at least put it together the same way they did with the Bible in Rome in the canonization of the Bible if this is part of it if this can be part of the discussion

[@islamicthinkingtv9985]

These are verses 84 and 85 from chapter 3 of the Quran: SAHIH INTERNATIONAL: And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. SAHIH INTERNATIONAL: Say, “We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him.”

[@ahsanrubel2869]

You people didn't give emphasis on the very basic question. Why did christology was discussed in Quran in the first place. Jesus is not universeally accepted prophet.Most of the Jews simply rejected the idea of messiah in the form of Jesus.

[@uniqueglow9541]

Here is an explanation of the "emergence of Islam". There are periodicities and regularities happening in human historical events. Important historical events, ideas, religions and currents of thoughts last for a maximum period of two thousand years, after which they are replaced, succeeded or superseded by new, similar, more encompassing ideas and currents of thought. Anyone noticed that prophet Muhammad came almost exactly 2000 years after Moses? Muhammad can be regarded as a person analogous to Moses who came two millennia after Moses and founded a new, strictly monotheistic religion that succeeded the ancient biblical monotheistic religion and reached many more people. In any case, many Muslims and also non Muslims consider that Muhammad is very comparable with Moses among the prophets.

[@groundzero5708]

they also became arab larpers

[@drbbyb]

Ahmed Muhammed Mahmud are from the same root - HMD - means " to appreciate" not to praise. His name is Ahmed and Muhammed - so far I understand - means to become "ahmed" likwise Mahmud 17,79 is a higher makam - Rank. "Muhammed" as a name does not appear in the koran. The word muhammedun, muhammedin as I said is not a name. His "worldy" name was Ebu Kasim or Kasem...

[@taqwatrucking]

If you want to say some about Islam ask a Muslim simple no ifs or buts or o think check your facts before you speak

[@griffindault]

Would you apply this to all other religions?

[@martoweche536]

@@griffindault nop he won't

[@griffindault]

@@martoweche536 well yeah thats what I figured but thought the point would be made better by having him admit it rather than accuse him of it.

[@martoweche536]

@@griffindault they want him to bring somebody who praises Islam

[@griffindault]

@@martoweche536 the comment meant more than just that. Not just they should do an episode with a practicing Muslim but that this was the only way to get accurate information about the religion. Only someone heavily indoctrinated in a group would say the 2nd part. To them it is a completely reasonable stance since they have been taught their whole lives that heathens, heretics, and apostates are inherently dishonest and can't be believed. This is massively amplified when the subject is the belief system itself.

[@thenun1846]

Excellent interview!

[@inquisitivemind007]

Have you seen the new one by Robert Hoyland called "Was Umar the Messiah?"

[@thenun1846]

@@inquisitivemind007 yea that was brilliant!

[@inquisitivemind007]

@@thenun1846 I didn't see you in the comments section slapping the Muslim Apologists like you do 🙂

[@thenun1846]

@@inquisitivemind007 haha been busy my guy. Giving my hand a rest from all the slapping

[@swimmingmantis22]

If the idea of Muhammad being ahistorical is fringe…. Just show historical people writing to him and getting communication from him. Show people who can give validation to this character. This is wild.

[@hichamsayegh8636]

It’s such a pity how little informed western scholars about Roman Levant, repeating the same mistake again and again, Syrian Roman provinces are not Syriac, are not Aramaic coming from eastern Euphrates, please get some Latin and Greek languages education and go to the historic sources in its original language, you will realize the terrible mistake of mixing syriac with syrian/ Sorian .

[@ibmatlore]

It is a shame how you and so call experts try to promote false information on Islam. I guess you are scare to invite real scholars.

[@fatemashah]

You say how Jesus was created?? You are talking about Lord of the Worlds. In Quran Allah S.W.T say look at the universe how they have created flawlessly and moving in orbit. And you question how a small little human can be created without sex.. seriously u need to quran properly.

[@NordinPumbaya]

The only problem with this Mythvision is that it doesn't touch on the basics of the topic. If Derick had read the Quran or listened to a Muslim academic scholar then he avoids asking elementary questions or questions that could easily be answered from an Islamic viewpoint. I mean the guest is scratching his head because he is not grounded on the mainstream stand of Islam on a particular topic whether it is regional or universal or the question of why in Arabic!

[@kkKey-py7lk]

Syriac is ASSYRIAN

[@zeulim309]

The message is the same but with different prophet, legislations and languages to remind and call back the whole world despite their country, race and language to worship God alone, the true path, and all messengers was calling on their people with the same message, most of them were prosecuted and fought against, and corrupt the message but Islam managed to reveal the true message away from large empires and authorities - We (God Almighty) revealed the Quran to you in arabic that ye may understand (recognise o people of mecca)12:2. - We (God Almighty) sent you as a mercy (guider to the rightful path) to the worlds (peoples). 21:107. O Prophet! We have sent thee as a witness and a missionary of good tidings, and warner - And as a summoner unto God by His welling, and as a lantern that giveth light (revealer of truth to world gone astray). 26:45-46.

[@zaahedsultan3103]

Please look for THE ORIGINAL INJEEL GIVEN TO JESUS PBUH.

[@sharpshot6111]

Wow, all that islam accomplished based on some hallucinations? Really?

[@iieneyy]

Log khte h quran terrorism ko promote krta h but ye log quran ko study krte h lekin terrorist nhi bante but accept Islam...... Isn't that concerning?😊😊

[@eliseti688]

354 lunar Babylonian Calendar. Islam is older than people think.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Christianity stole from Judaism and Islam stole from Christianity.

[@nmkzf]

GOD is the same one, HE is the same author, for the all the previous books from God for human kind, hence many common topics and issues, Similarities are yet another proof of the messages from the same GOD.

[@trevinowens70]

This is stupid. Jesus was a Jew so how could Christianity stole from Judaism?

[@anaskpalmalaki8804]

Islam deny that God a triune God and also deny Jesus was the begotten son of God. So tell me what was copied from Christianity?

[@Jay_in_Japan]

9:56 There are many things between Egypt and Southeast Asia, lmao. Did you mean to say something else?

[@Galiuros]

I would have liked to have heard your guest's opinion on the assassination of Rashad Khalifa, an Egyptian-American biochemist who lived in Tucson, Arizona and who founded the Masjid (Mosque) of Tucson. He also researched the theory that the "Quran, unlike the Hadith, was incorruptible because it contained a mathematical structure based on the number 19, namely the Quran code or known as Code 19" (Wikipedia). Because of his belief and publications, he was assassinated in Tucson on January 31, 1990. I pass by the building where he was assassinated every day. Glen Cusford Francis was caught on April 28, 2009, by the Calgary Police Services of Canada. He was 52 years old and a citizen of Trinidad and Tobago. He was sentenced in December 2012 to life in prison for Khalifa's murder.

[@fromtheashes2555]

The Quran is copied from Christian hymns and sermons combined with stories from the Jewish Talmud. Whole pages of the Quran are copied from hymns and poetry written by Christian Saint Ephraim centuries earlier

[@lordblenkinsopp1537]

@@fromtheashes2555care to give an example?

[@AliAli-mw9fk]

Worst hour of my life spent. All this talk is like shooting and moving the target to hit. Listen, Mecca was not a shopping center, so how do you not understand that it is not Wall Street, but nomadic tribes. Then, according to you, the Arabs were engaged in agriculture in the DESERT if they were not traders or at least as excellent experts of the desert they were in charge of transporting goods across the desert... Really what is called a SCIENTIST today. Further inserted verses in the Koran, subsequently written expanded, etc... Hello, the Bible was corresponded, edited, Reformed for a thousand years, the result of all this is 3000 big contradictions. You don't have that in the Koran, leave the hadiths, history and find one contradiction in the Koran. You won't find it, that's why you pour it from empty to empty!!! Find one contradiction and you are done with Islam, come on scientists...

[@pheeel17]

I need translator for all the gibberish you just said

[@sal6783]

The birth name of the prophet is Muhammad

[@abdikanjaded9149]

So far listening to this guy about quran and Muhammad (SAW) I'm just SMH

[@able763]

Think you know Islam? Here are some choice quotes from notable mainstream Muslims of today: 1. (On child marriage) It's not rape if there's parental consent. (Daniel Haqiqatjou) 2. Islam & human rights are in 100% agreement. We only differ on who is to do the (wife) beating. (Daniel Haqiqatjou) 3. (On the Quran's perfect preservation) The standard narrative has holes in it. (Sheikh Dr Yasir Qadhi, PhD Yale) 4. (When Muslims invade, when we are strong in 40-50 years' time) We give you two good options (convert to Islam or pay the jizya tax) and live under sharia law. If you refuse, **neck slitting sounds** (Sheikh Assim Al-Hakeem) (Note: This only applies to Jews and Christians. Pagans don't have the jizya tax option. They either convert or die.) 5. Yes, I do believe in miracles (like the flying donkey & moon splitting). (Mehdi Hasan, MSNBC broadcast journalist) 6. (According to the Quran, you can marry a girl) even if she's 5 years old. (Mohammed Hijab) 7. In a Muslim country, apostrophe (he means "apostasy") is dealt with with the death penalty. (Dr Muhamad Mukadam) 8. Without the death penalty for apostasy, Islam would have collapsed the day the Prophet died. (Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi) 9. Hundreds of young boys & girls aged 13 to 18 have openly declared their apostasy to me. They are hafiz, leading prayers at the masjid & engaged in madrassa. This problem is dramatic and large. They cannot talk to their parents. (Dr Asadullah Ali Al-Andalusi) 10. Nobody saw the moon split because most people were asleep at night. (Farid Responds) 11. There are various benefits for the human being in drinking camel's urine. (Dr Zakir Naik, "Medical Doctor") 12. Camel's urine contains potassium, and albuminous protein. It also contains traces of uric acid. And sodium. As well as creatine (he means "creatinine"). (Note: This is the urine composition from any animal) (Dr Zakir Naik, "Medical Doctor") As you can see, Muslims today as just as coervice, violent, destructive and nonsensical as Muslims 1400 years ago.

[@yucafries7681]

Historicity & Islam are mutually exclusive concepts

[@vicmath1005]

@Yuca Fries Agree. After the time of the Umayyads (when Abbasids took over the 'Islamic' territories), the Abbasids took away the rights of the Nazarene priests over the uneducated masses. So, no more Nazarene priests from about 760 CE. They continued being judges, however, using the Quranic (=Mosaic/Torah) sharia. But, over the following century, there was the development of Hadiths, and then the introduction of the new (Abbasid) sharia which was almost entirely based on the fictional Hadiths. There is virtually nothing of the Mosaic law in the Abbasid sharia. If the priests had continued to function, the Mosaic sharia would have remained intact and we would have access to some real history. Of course, the Islam would have been almost identical to Judaism (plus 'Isa bin Maryam as the Messenger of Allah).

[@user-nf6ot5di4o]

Better believe it

[@krisc3371]

@@vicmath1005 but acc to you were would Muhammad be in the picture if the Abassids took not those territories, i mean the Umayyads already believed that Muhammad was the last prophet of Allah right?

[@yucafries7681]

@@krisc3371 Jesus was the original « most praised one » ☝️

[@vicmath1005]

@@krisc3371 The Umayyads built the Dome of the Rock - Grand Temple on the Temple Mount. This was their Kaaba. This Kaaba in Jerusalem (Dome of the Rock) has inscriptions explaining that Jesus was "Muhammad", the "praised one". The sacrifices and rituals were handled by the Nazarene priests. Read the works of Amikam Elad (the Hebrew University of Jerusalem) for more information on the Temple Mount priests. Abd-Allah ibn al-Zubayr tried to re-establish the rival Kaaba at Makkah (Petra) , but was killed by the Umayyads. When Abbasids started ruling, they developed new ideas. Now the religion shed the priests, shed Jesus as the lead character, shed any role for the priests in handling the pilgrims' sacrifices. Abbasids, keen to erase Umayyads, would have moved the Kaaba (from Jerusalem) to Makkah (Petra) c. 760 CE. Then the Kaaba moved again c. 800 CE: from Makkah (Petra) to Makkah (Saudi).

[@sal6783]

He seems hate Islam it shows. All what he said it’s some truth and mix it with lies.

[@andanandan6061]

You must check your guest carefully next time. Make sure they are really expert in this field. Last time your video with the so called Harvard Quranic Expert was a mess. Guest made many simple basic mistakes led to people think you were bias agaisnt Islam when the truth was your guest was not a real expert. I'm not Hater btw. Like your video. Just suggest to pick a good guest especially when it comes to Islam. We are not Christian and Jews with limited primary source. We are pretty well backed up compared with other abrahamic Faith.

[@ummzaynul370]

Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu`ba: "The sun eclipsed in the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) on the day when (his son) Ibrahim died. So the people said that the sun had eclipsed because of the death of Ibrahim. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The sun and the moon do not eclipse because of the death or life (i.e. birth) of someone. When you see the eclipse pray and invoke Allah." Sahih al-Bukhari 1043

[@tulpas93]

So what? Why would anyone who is not already Muslim give a crap about what so and so allegedly said to so and so hundreds of years ago? ...or are you just commenting to support and boost the reach and ratings of this channel?

[@ummzaynul370]

@tulpas93 Whether one accepts the message or not it's their choice, your accountable for your actions and deeds, which you will answer for on the day of judgement. This life is not for fun and games. This life is a test. Indeed, those who do not expect the meeting with Us and are satisfied with the life of this world and feel secure therein and those who are heedless of Our signs Surah 10: 7-9

[@muhammadusmanrahim3944]

Unbelievable evil truth how the author Fabricated the bible shame on those Christian who say your beloved prophet Muhammad (PBUH) Copied from the bible OLD TESTAMENT GENESIS 50:26.So Joseph died at the age of a hundred and ten. And after they embalmed him, he was placed in a coffin in Egypt. NEW TESTAMENT MATTHEW CHAPTER 1 This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham: 2. Abraham was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob, Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3. Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar, Perez the father of Hezron, Hezron the father of Ram, (OLD TESTAMENT pls read GENESIS CHAPTER 38 Judah the father in law who Commit incest with tamar daughter in-law) 4.Ram the father of Amminadab, Amminadab the father of Nahshon, Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5. Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab (OLD TESTAMENT JOSHUA CHAPTER 2 PLS ENTIRE VERSE of who is Rahab 1.Then Joshua son of Nun secretly sent two spies from Shittim. “Go, look over the land,” he said, “especially Jericho.” So they went and entered the house of a prostitute named Rahab and stayed there ) Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth, Obed the father of Jesse, 6. and Jesse the father of King David. David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife, OLD TESTAMENT 2 SAMUEL Chapter 11:2-5 (Evil Bible say our pious & righteous prophet David (PBUH) Commit adultery ) 2.one evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, 3 and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, "Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?" 4 Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then [1] she went back home. 5 The woman conceived and sent word to David, saying, "I am pregnant) 16. and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah. 18. This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about : His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. 19. Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. 20. But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21. She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins. [OLD TESTAMENT GENESIS 50:26.So Joseph died at the age of a hundred and ten. And after they embalmed him, he was placed in a coffin in Egypt. How it's a possible that Joseph (PBUH) Became father of Jesus (PBUH) in the old Testament Joseph died & buried in the land of Egpyt how is in the New Testament Joseph became father Jesus the life history of Joseph is 1700BC and prophet Moses is 1300BC obviously Jesus 3 BC its impossible. one of miracle of Jesus (PBUH) we muslim know Jesus was born without father only mother known as Virgin birth if we read the entire Quran there is no women name is mentioned Except pious mother Mary. Pls read Chapter Mary in Quran] CONTRADICTION OF JESUS (PBUH) GENEALOGY Generation of Jesus (PEACE BE UPON HIM) MATTHEW 1:16-2 LUKE 3:23-38 MATTHEW LUKE 1 Jesus Jesus 2 Joseph Joseph 3 Jacob Heli 4 Matthan Matthat 5 Eleazar Levi 6 Eliud Melchi 7 Achim Janna 8 Sadoc Joseph 9 Azor Mattathias 10 Eliakim Amos 11 Abiud Naum 12 Zorobabel Esli 13 Salathiel Nagge 14 Jechonias Maath 15 Josias Mattathias 16 Amon Semei 17 Manasses Joseph 18 Ezekias Juda 19 Achaz Joanna 20 Joatham Rhesa 21 Ozias Zorobabel 22 Joram Salathiel 23 Josaphat Neri 24 Asa Melchi 25 Abia Abdi 26 Roboam Cosam 27 Solomon Elmodam 28 David Er 29 Jesse Jose 30 Obed Eliezer 31 Booz Jorim 32 Salmon Matthat 33 Naasson Levi 34 Aminadab Simeon 35 Aram Juda 36 Esrom Joseph 37 Phares Jonan 38 Judas Eliakim 39 Jacob Melea 40 Isaac Menan 41 Abraham Mattatha 42 Nathan 43 David 44 Jesse 45 Obed 46 Booz 47 Salmon 48 Naasson 49 Aminadab 50 Aram 51 Esrom 52 Phares 53 Juda 54 Jacob 55 Isaac 56 Abraham 57 Thara 58 Nachor 59 Saruch 60 Ragau 61 Phalec 62 Heber 63 Sala 64 Cainan 65 Arphaxad 66 Sem 67 Noe 68 Lamech 69 Mathusala 70 Enoch 71 Jared 72 Maleleel 73 Cainan 74 Enos 75 Seth 76 Adam 77 God CONCLUSION : I think Matthew & Luke might have born for several penis because Matthew say the ancestor of Jesus is 41 but Luke say 77 obviously God is not in the genealogy of matthew if we read OLD TESTAMENT GENESIS CHAPTER 50:26 So Joseph died being at age 110 year how is in the In the new Testament Joseph (PBUH) Became of Jesus (PBUH) ....... JOHN 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. CONCLUSION:The books of Moses (PBUH) are Genesis.Exodus.leviticus.Number.Deuteronomy. Apart from these 5 books of Moses (PBUH) there is not a single verses in the old testament where Jesus not is mentioned which mean the author lied again 2 TIMOTHY:3 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 So that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work CONCLUSION: there are so many contradiction in bible but author Timothy saying that the Bible reveal word of God which is helpful for teaching No 👎 👎 👎 👎.... it's helpful for Christian priest.0Christian missionary. Reverend.who are the Victim the follower of Christianity 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎.. Say, ‘O People of the Book! (Jews & Christian) exceed not the limits in (the matter of) your religion unjustly, nor follow the evil inclinations of a people who went astray before and caused many to go astray, and (who) have strayed away from the right path. ( Holy Quran 5: 77) CONCLUSION Did you know why Allah curse on the jewish QURAN 4:156 And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander QURAN warn those jews & Christian 2:78 And among them are unlettered ones who do not know the Scripture except in wishful thinking, but they are only assuming. 79 So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn. 3:69 A faction of the people of the Scripture (Jews & Christian)wish they could mislead you. But they do not mislead except themselves, and they perceive [it] not. 70 O People of the Scripture, (Jews& Christian)why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while you witness [to their truth]? 71 O People of the Scripture(Jews & Christian), why do you confuse the truth with falsehood and conceal the truth while you know [it]? 77 Indeed, those who exchange the covenant of Allah and their [own] oaths for a small price will have no share in the Hereafter, and Allah will not speak to them or look at them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them; and they will have a painful punishment. 78 And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, "This is from Allah," but it is not from Allah. And they speak untruth about Allah while they know

[@patterns7953]

Muhammad was called Nabi because he belonged to the Nabatiyan tribe of Petra, Jordan.

[@Hastenforthedawm]

Nabi means Prophet in Arabic. Nabi is not a tribe.

[@inquisitivemind007]

Muhammad's goal was the Holy Land Q5:21 which he was facing for 17/18 months before the qibla changed to Mecca. Towards the end of his life he engaged in Zionist activities to capture the Holy Land Q5:21 - as shown in the Stephen Shoemaker interview - as some Jews thought Muhammad was the Messiah as reported in Theopanes 817AD. When he failed to capture it, his attempt was edited out of biographies as this would invalidate him being the Messaih and he was seen just as a Prophet sent to the Arabs as shown by someone in the Jewish community in the mid 8th century who wrote in The Secrets of Rabbi Šim‘on ben Yohai "...He shall raise up over them a prophet [Muhammad] in accordance with His will, and He [God] will subdue the land [Israel] for them; and they shall come and restore it with grandeur..."

[@andanandan6061]

@@inquisitivemind007 and none of this source met him didn't they ?

[@inquisitivemind007]

@Andan Andan no but the chain of reporting that goes back have - just like on hadiths.

[@andanandan6061]

@@inquisitivemind007 Goes back to who ?

[@Alpha-gw5ws]

Mohammed, " the praised one" = Allah. Mohammed equals himself with God? I think only God is to be praised..

[@Simsam-b1d]

A linguistic miracle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Drawingssolution]

So like you guys how can you approve the pants how grow 🪴? itself who is controling sun moon at to z ?if we can't reply then someone is there who is controling this universe,who wil be he,?from where he came?

[@richlisola1]

Ah Islam! The world’s fastest growing myth

[@anonymous14649]

Truth*

[@noneoftheabove666]

And also the most dangerous 💥💥

[@toharpyo]

😂 Keep fearing you have to lost finally

[@ethanstiles948]

This was a great interview. Excellent questions and very informative answers. I hope Dr. Reynolds returns for another conversation soon, he was an great guest. Definitely up there with the greats like Dr. Steve Mason

[@fay1298]

Dr Reynolds is an amazingly gracious and humble academic who makes scholarly material available to everyone. Thank you for interviewing him Derek. His KZbin channel is really underrated.

[@AJansenNL]

I've been waiting for Dr Reynolds to appear on your channel. Great convo!

[@imranbasit8276]

Peace / Salam / Shalom/ Om… kindly have interview with Professor Angelika Neuwirth on Bible n Quran and how Quran interacts with both old n new testaments. She is an elderly lady and may not be able to hold one long session, may need 2-3 sessions. Thank you.

[@kamskas6226]

Finally, you invited Professor Gabriel. He is one of my favourites.

[@IpsissimusPrime]

That was awesome! I have to agree about Dr Reynolds’ channel! Currently going through as many videos as I can there, so I wound up here after the fact (seeing several comments stating “I am here from MythVision” on his channel) LOL. I am receiving two books of his today(“Allah: God in the Qur’an” , as well as his more magisterial “The Qur’an & The Bible”). Psyched to start those although I’m going to go much slower with the 2nd for sure. Hopefully you and he can get together for another episode this year. I can do 90 minutes if you can!

[@br1qbat]

Subbed to his channel. Can't wait to learn more about early Islam

[@nsbd90now]

People might not know, and the captions are translating it variously, but the guest is talking about the "Seerah"-- connected with hadith and Sunnah-- having to do with the biographical stories of Muhammad.

[@OdonLafontaine]

Another great scholar on this great channel. As an "ultra-revisionist" myself, close to the Inarâh Institute that Dr. Reynolds mentioned, I would like to point out that the historical existence of a man who was nicknamed Muhammad is not in doubt. The question is not there but on the actual role that this Muhammad played. Was he the "prophet of Islam"? Did he reveal the Koran? I believe he was a Christian Arab connected to a Jewish sect that preached the imminent coming of the end times and the return of Jesus - and since he did not return (and since Muhammad died), his Judeo-Christian teaching evolved into Islam. The return of Jesus was postponed to another end time, and Islam emerged from its Judeo-Christian background as the religion of the new caliphal empire, as a utilitarian form of religion so as to form the backbone of the empire (like every empire) and to give legitimicay to the divine power claimed by the caliphs.

[@Zarghaam12]

Read the first line and new the rest would be rubbish! Nickname Mohammad? That's a name, his name, so how goofy can you get. the rest is waffle, as expected!

[@vicmath1005]

@@Zarghaam12 Before calling others goofy... You are not an Arabic-speaking person. You are from Afghanstan. In the 7th-8th century Arabic, whatever writings we have (including Quran), a person's NAME is written followed by the patronymic. That is, BIN something or the other. For example, Quran mentions: 'Isa BIN Maryam, etc. But the word MUHAMMAD does not have a patronymic. This means, MUHAMMAD of the Quran was not a NAME, but a TITLE. It was only during the Abbasid times did the non-Arab writers ADDED a patronymic for this person. So the expression became Muhammad BIN ABDULLAH. Learn some Quranic Arabic and then prove me wrong.

[@yucafries7681]

There is no doubt that anachronistic « sources » provide lots of evidence of a man for which there is basically zero historicity. If you start from the assumption that the man existed, there’s no room for other conclusions. I’ve never seen a single piece of evidence that is contemporary with the so-called prophet of Islam

[@vicmath1005]

@@inquisitivemind007 It is still a TITLE. What was his real name? And where was 'Mecca' in the 7th century? It was at Petra. The Mecca you are talking about is an Abbasid story.

[@oceanmachine1906]

@@vicmath1005 you are not an Arabic-speaking person, you're from California. "But the word MUHAMMAD does not have a patronymic. This means, MUHAMMAD of the Quran was not a NAME, but a TITLE." "Muḥammad is the Messenger of Allah. And those with him are firm with the disbelievers and compassionate with one another......." - Qur'an, Surah 48:29 That verse alone completely throws that out of the park. The Quranic title for Muhammad is "Messenger of Allah" and it is the most common term used to reference him, not only in the Quran but in Hadith as well. In the minimal direct references of his name, the Qur'an never once indicates that "Muhammad" is a title. Mecca was not Petra, that is a comedic fable from Tom Holland.

[@pradeenkrishnag2368]

Very much awaited interview.

[@kkKey-py7lk]

Islam religion comes from eastern Christianity mahamd he were bishops of church

[@taqwatrucking]

How comes a man that was illiterate has 2plus billion following in today's world and his message hasn't even reached its peak yet. All I can tell you is read his biography without being biased and with open minded

[@amrbensalem7715]

🤦‍♂

[@miguelsureda9762]

He will go the way Osiris Zeus and the great gugu pfthe mountains went,,, in the garbage bin ,except for the history lessons about fables.

[@shahidachoudhury6925]

@@miguelsureda9762 Than ask you Creator sincerely(if you believe that there is Creator for all) to guide toward the truth . Nothing better I can say than that. Try .

[@miguelsureda9762]

@@shahidachoudhury6925 no daddy in the sky. Don't be lazy.You will have to think on you own !

[@pandawandas]

@@shahidachoudhury6925I did that many times

[@yeahehtheseguyseh3703]

Get SHAYKH HAMZA YUSUF HANSON

[@tala4746]

I am from muslim family and I believe that not all hadeeth true.

[@Yahman1969]

I am Muslim and I disregard them all together as I do parts of the Quran. There are mistakes in it that cannot be explained

[@centi50s]

Hadith is a corrupt book

[@s55417]

@@Yahman1969 like what ??😂

[@Yahman1969]

@@s55417 your apparent lack of humility for a start

[@brokeboiacey5674]

@@Yahman1969you’re not Muslim if you reject the Quran

[@sal6783]

Surah AL-IKHLAS IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, THE BENEFICENT, THE MERCIFUL Say: He is Allah, the One! (1) Allah, the eternally Besought of all! (2) He begetteth not nor was begotten. (3) And there is none comparable unto Him. (4) سُوۡرَةُ الإخلاص بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ قُلۡ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ (١) ٱللَّهُ ٱلصَّمَدُ (٢) لَمۡ يَلِدۡ وَلَمۡ يُولَدۡ (٣) وَلَمۡ يَكُن لَّهُ ۥ ڪُفُوًا أَحَدٌ (٤)

[@aismail8321]

The level of detail and cohesion within the corpus of Early Islamic history makes it almost impossible to be made up from nothing. It's unfortunate that some Western academics can't think systemically. They have to compartmentalise Just the Qur'an, just tye hadith, just the seerah, just the history books.. And Muslims can only scream- "look at all of them together you idiot . What's wrong with you?"

[@mushrikun3029]

The level of detail and cohesion within the corpus of Early Islamic history is not there. There is only the quran, and nothing else. 200 years+ later (not early islam anymore) comes the rest.

[@supremercommonder]

Wrong the hadith where just unified in one book but they where there complied by each companion

[@joecurran2811]

The early Qu'ran's were burnt. This is not in dispute. The year 70 there is hardly anything for it.

[@nosmokejazwinski6297]

@@joecurran2811That’s factually wrong. Manuscripts were burned when Qur’an was compiled into a single book. So your claim contradicts itself as there was no compiled Qur’an to be burned before the Qur’an was compiled. Your claim is a paradox.

[@tulpas93]

Cohesion? You might want to look up that word as it seems you are using it incorrectly.

[@josephbarnabas1911]

The idea that mecca was the center of trade was true. The critical question is by whom? Many people erroneously assumed it is the center of trade of all people but it is not. Mecca is only the center of trade among the arabs because of the pilgrimage. Arabs converged in mecca for both pilgrimage and trade

[@inquisitivemind007]

You'll find the answer in the Robert Hoyland interview Derek did on Mecca.

[@miguelsureda9762]

Not 1 single archeologic proof.NOT ONE !!!, If i digg in my garden i will find more. Meccca in the Hejaz is a joke ! A scam !

[@MultiDarto]

the Quraish control it, the trading not jusst between Arab(Bedouin) but persian, indian, Africans, axum(yaman) jew kingdom, in facr in my country Indonesia there is a topoc now about descendants of the Muhammad from Yaman, we call them Habib, some habibs take a dna test, the arab gen only 0.6 , they have jews gen mostly, it so controversial now, but just make a point about the trading in mecca before Muhammed came, also Muhammad came from Hashim clan from Quraish, Hashim are guardians of the Kabah(cube), there is Abbas clan whom actually merchant/aristocraric clan and more

[@shahidachoudhury6925]

@@inquisitivemind007 The Arabs who lived in Makkah ,you think that they didn’t know what and how was Makkah rather than much much later westerner came to know better about Makkah 😂. Yea right people ask about Chinese history from the Mongolian 😅. What a great .

[@inquisitivemind007]

@shahidachoudhury6925 by the same token make sure you go to a Christian when you want to know the truth about Christianity and not Bart Ehrman

[@rajeshsyal9269]

Nabetian's were masters of deserts and trained fighters working with beniztian( Roman ) empire

[@khanofcaledonia6413]

End times is not understood in Islam as iminent. Hadeeth provides the details of events happening before the day of judgement. So without hadeeth there are so many things that won't make sense. So for example Quran talks about prayers but not the exact times, the procedure etc. So hadeeth and seerah is absolutely essential to understand Islam. Also we can't use implicit verses to reach a conclusion, Christians do that but it's not done in Islam.

[@HHasan-of2vi]

Brilliant and truthful minded people hear from both side but decide themselves being neutral and fair.