n vs n-1. Why are there 2 formulas for the standard deviation?

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MrNystrom

MrNystrom

7 жыл бұрын

I hope to help you understand why there are 2 formulas for the SD. They are bith trying to do the same thing..

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@SamirMishra6174
@SamirMishra6174 6 жыл бұрын
the passion that you have, makes me want to learn
@tumsum6945
@tumsum6945 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this guys enthusiasm is infectious. The world needs more teachers like this guy.
@jolyoncaplin747
@jolyoncaplin747 4 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant... answering a question I had never had properly explained for years. Cheerful examples are the best way :)
@kevinseeam4849
@kevinseeam4849 2 жыл бұрын
I have never seen such a better teacher in my whole life
@sharanjhaveri6324
@sharanjhaveri6324 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, Youre a legend . This was by far the best explanation of this nitty gritty concept Ive seen. You rock man.
@altairjb
@altairjb 7 жыл бұрын
I had to check when you posted the last video, because I didn't remember when I watched one of your videos the last time. No longer taking stats but it's impossible not to watch. You are simply awesome explaining this stuff.
@oddshi
@oddshi 7 жыл бұрын
Joel Batista exact same thing as me
@oxalategaming3379
@oxalategaming3379 7 жыл бұрын
Joel Batista haha same here I still watch this guy even after finishing the course
@TripleIProductions
@TripleIProductions 6 жыл бұрын
same
@mehtubbhai9709
@mehtubbhai9709 11 ай бұрын
Wish I had you as my statistics teacher in school. Like so many others here have commented, you provided a very intuitive answer to something I have been wondering abt for a long long time. Thx Mr. Nystrom and please keep more maths videos coming!👍👍
@erazor20001
@erazor20001 4 жыл бұрын
The clearest way to explain this! Well done Sir!
@excitedaboutlearning1639
@excitedaboutlearning1639 3 жыл бұрын
The reason you're so good at teaching is because you're focused on interaction, understanding and thinking: Instead of writing the answer right away, you ask us, the viewers, to think. Then you explain why we're thinking, and at the end, we understand. Thank you very much.
@bernardo013
@bernardo013 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an in-depth video on degrees of freedom. Happy to have you back!
@mattkriese7170
@mattkriese7170 Жыл бұрын
This was awesome. Started an intro course for pob/stats two weeks ago and this was exactly what I needed. Love the energy!
@dheeraj3945
@dheeraj3945 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best video that was able to explain why n-1 in sample SD makes sense by far
@stuarnott
@stuarnott 6 жыл бұрын
Man, that got me over a huge mental block! You're the first person to explain that in a way I understood. Thank you so much!!!
@samsschool3639
@samsschool3639 7 жыл бұрын
Dude that saved my grades way back in the day is back!! Lots of love man!
@MrGlewYouTubeChangedMyHandle
@MrGlewYouTubeChangedMyHandle 6 жыл бұрын
Mate. You are my hero. If mathematics was taught mainstream the way you teach it, we would have colonised the galaxy by now.
@MrGlewYouTubeChangedMyHandle
@MrGlewYouTubeChangedMyHandle 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not even taking the piss.
@danyvarlet7843
@danyvarlet7843 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Great video again. I would love also to have an in depth explanation on the degrees of freedom. An explanation between the normal distribution and the Chebyshev distribution would be great too! Thanks again !
@janetguevara1045
@janetguevara1045 5 жыл бұрын
I am helping my son with this, and I found you...❤❤❤❤❤ it's like watch Steve Irwin talk about crocs or better yet, watching Steve on Blues Clues!!! Thank you for all your energy!!!
@alishaokeeffe7574
@alishaokeeffe7574 6 жыл бұрын
You are such a great teacher! I just asked this exact question on your other video explaining standard deviation whoops! Really appreciate the way you break things down and explain why everything is the way it is in the formulas. Great teaching style and personality:)
@vishnukrishna8407
@vishnukrishna8407 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best explanations out there. Crystal clear. Good job buddy.
@BeeHappyBec
@BeeHappyBec 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! My stats lecturer glossed over this and I've been worried all week... looks like I'll be following your channel all throughout university!
@edwardparsons1927
@edwardparsons1927 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the short class on N-1. You are the first one to make it make sense!
@ideas11
@ideas11 6 жыл бұрын
You are freaking amazing . For several years I had this question and now i am so so so happy . You are freaking genius dude.
@redglasses4502
@redglasses4502 7 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few different teachers on KZbin but I leave still feeling confused, your really good at explaining! Thank you! Keep doing what your doing!
@hyperegg2363
@hyperegg2363 6 жыл бұрын
I am straight up addicted to your videos. Your amazing at explaining this stuff!
@imad_uddin
@imad_uddin 3 жыл бұрын
SUCH A WELL THOUGHT OUT EXPLANATION. I came here after watching: Statquest: where he explains this n-1 thing using derivative of variance formula Dave Your Tutor: who explains using degrees of freedom Knan Academy: where Sal explains this using a simulation. Your video summed it all up so well...
@sasankadowarah3323
@sasankadowarah3323 Жыл бұрын
This is the best video I have found that explains the n vs n-1.
@joshTjensen
@joshTjensen 7 жыл бұрын
I just started my stats class, but I don't even bother with the textbook because you explain things so much better!
@amysaya6566
@amysaya6566 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! You just maybe my savior to getting through Prob and Stats this semester!
@jhsoup4393
@jhsoup4393 7 ай бұрын
you are the goat man, your explanation was soo frikin clear it will stay in my memory forever
@truckersagainsttrafficking7550
@truckersagainsttrafficking7550 6 жыл бұрын
Your awesome man. Keep up the good work. I do have a suggestion Keep letting loose & be yourself. Your passion & love of statistics is infectious. Hold nothing back, the craziervypu are, the more memorable
@mikehenry2742
@mikehenry2742 5 жыл бұрын
Good God...you are a math angel...that shit has puzzled the docket s outta me for too long......may peace and prosperity be upon your children's children ...thank you my brother..
@kavitakulkarni9584
@kavitakulkarni9584 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect , brilliant .This helped to find why n-1 not n-2 with your example of proportion of 5/5 ,10/10 and so on. Thanks a lot.
@vrushalibhise7375
@vrushalibhise7375 3 жыл бұрын
I got this video recommended on Google and thought it would be absolutely unjust if I didn't hit the like button! Because this video is just sooo perfect! On point!! 👍👍
@user-zf1op6ru9f
@user-zf1op6ru9f Жыл бұрын
This is such a good and logical explanation I have ever heard about n-1 denominator. I love the way you teach.
@lexparsimoniae2107
@lexparsimoniae2107 6 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, that made perfect sense! Thank you for your continuous effort to spread good education.
@ricardoortizpozo
@ricardoortizpozo 3 жыл бұрын
Just awesome, you just explained exactly what I needed. Currently, I am facing several problems trying to know which formula to use for different statistical parameters. You just helped me understand one of them, thank you very much.
@cesar.vasconcelos
@cesar.vasconcelos 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you're back!
@utkarshpandita4645
@utkarshpandita4645 2 жыл бұрын
This thing was messing with my brain for 1 week. After one day of crying and scratching my head i found your video Thank You
@arvindag
@arvindag 7 жыл бұрын
Mr Nystrom , You are a legend!, Your videos helped me to clear my Machine learning exam, Please do continue posting the videos.
@robynimc9527
@robynimc9527 6 жыл бұрын
You make stats understandable and fun. Thank you!
@VanessaKlinger
@VanessaKlinger 6 жыл бұрын
You need to have all of your videos aired in every school in the world! I am 50 years old and I took statistics and earned an A from watching you and other videos.. Mainly yours... It just makes sense when you teach it. I applaud you!!!! #teacherofthecentury!!!1
@pratiknbagaria
@pratiknbagaria 5 жыл бұрын
Finally I understood the reason for n-1!! I got so irritated everytime I used n-1 without understanding the reason. Thanks for the simple and lively video.
@kamemugg1280
@kamemugg1280 6 жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks from Michigan! Your passion is infectious.
@chc159
@chc159 5 жыл бұрын
Thx! It`s really vivid and clear explaination. I`d like to add on why n-1. Since it can be n+1. quote from wikipedia "In statistics, Bessel's correction is the use of n − 1 instead of n in the formula for the sample variance and sample standard deviation, where n is the number of observations in a sample. This method corrects the bias in the estimation of the population variance. It also partially corrects the bias in the estimation of the population standard deviation. However, the correction often increases the mean squared error in these estimations. This technique is named after Friedrich Bessel. "
@goncaloveiga
@goncaloveiga 6 жыл бұрын
Damn you're the best! That fraction example to explain how to correct for the bias is awesome.
@krzysztoflechowski5745
@krzysztoflechowski5745 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolute genius explaining these things.
@QuadirAliblaize
@QuadirAliblaize 2 жыл бұрын
this makes me enjoy learning stats more and always an inspiration to watch you teach and spread the knowledge.
@doyowan
@doyowan 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, that made lots of sense and finally explains it for me. I'm not even studying stats or maths but just enjoy the topic and your videos are very clear and fun to watch. Keep it up!
@ivandeetlefs
@ivandeetlefs 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation for someone who needs deeper understanding!!! And entertaining :)
@dammydas4350
@dammydas4350 4 жыл бұрын
My professor explained it to me and it went right over - this video made complete sense. I can now explain this to anybody.
@trucksd1
@trucksd1 7 жыл бұрын
You'r videos helped me pass my Stat class, i am grateful.
@jiwonshin6434
@jiwonshin6434 4 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing!! I have my Algebra 2 quiz tomorrow and this is answering all of my questions!!! I love it!
@workingstiff19
@workingstiff19 7 жыл бұрын
Mr. Nystrom, YES it did make a TON of sense! I am re-learning statistics on my own. My book (by John Freund) explains what the sample standard deviation is for but doesn't go into all the detail that you do here. (1) The purpose of the sample is to get an unbiased picture of the population, and (2) the bigger the sample, the lesser the correction. BEAUTIFUL! Thank you!
@ZeroTwoTwoFive
@ZeroTwoTwoFive 7 жыл бұрын
MrNystrom your lessons are amazing, explanations are intuitive. Keep up the good work. Also looking forward to your new videos.
@SuperShotia
@SuperShotia 6 жыл бұрын
Now I find hope again and I think I'll pass my stats course this year for sure. Thank you. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Universities should not be accepting any less professors than you, for real:))
@FalconFlyer75
@FalconFlyer75 3 жыл бұрын
why aren't your my statistics professor, you may be the first one that actually taught me something
@MG-ks5pt
@MG-ks5pt 5 жыл бұрын
wooow you are an amazing teacher....with great teaching skills.... I completely understand the whole concept
@soundgoesdown
@soundgoesdown 4 жыл бұрын
They should introduce a Nobel Prize for Passion. You'll be the first winner. Bravo! 👏🏻
@michaelwood2292
@michaelwood2292 7 жыл бұрын
I'll be 59 this year (2017)... and I'm still learning through your videos. Than you sir.
@biplabroy1406
@biplabroy1406 3 жыл бұрын
After seeing around 5-6 videos, finally I understood here. Thank you.
@user-lm3wn5ux3s
@user-lm3wn5ux3s Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video, It is so helpful I wish I had educators like you
@senorastevens1023
@senorastevens1023 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful explanation and very clearly put. Thanks!
@Ropeka
@Ropeka 2 жыл бұрын
Its easy to understand your explanation. Good work
@noelnewlon
@noelnewlon Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, simply brilliant. Can't be overstated.
@benjaminferland4251
@benjaminferland4251 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and effort on these, I am using them!
@thosu1461
@thosu1461 7 жыл бұрын
As in your other vids you explain it so one can really get the idea behind the thing. Awesome teacher! and fun to watch :)
@sarthakgarg35
@sarthakgarg35 2 жыл бұрын
The best 12 minutes of my life so far ❤️❤️ thanks a ton for the amazing explanation
@MugenTJ
@MugenTJ 7 жыл бұрын
Finally, I understood this. My fault for never asking, but I'm equally shock none of my professors explained this.
@amyyu3072
@amyyu3072 6 жыл бұрын
You are amazing!!! I hope our professor would have had half of your teaching skill.
@numericalmethodsguy
@numericalmethodsguy Жыл бұрын
Another way to look at is as follows. Does calculating the standard deviation of a sample with n=1 make sense? Also when one is calculating s, one uses xbar. So if you have n values, and you know (n-1) values and the average of n values, your nth value is not independent anymore.
@syedirshaan3005
@syedirshaan3005 7 жыл бұрын
I like the way you explain with pretty cool nature cracking jokes. You made stat not only easy but also funny. Thanks a lot
@hanadiam8910
@hanadiam8910 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see all your playlists
@thecraftywitch510
@thecraftywitch510 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks this was just great. Not having a math background at all....and sitting exam next week for social science freaked me out....have to say you done more in these lessons than the lecturer done in 4 weeks! Blessings from Scotland.
@vbbarnes16
@vbbarnes16 4 жыл бұрын
Great clarity in this presentation for standard deviation.
@Skitles125
@Skitles125 7 жыл бұрын
The best teacher at BHS hands down
@ziqiguo9758
@ziqiguo9758 5 жыл бұрын
This is a totally excellent video!!!! I love you sooooo much dear mr Nystrom !
@PunkerNinetySix
@PunkerNinetySix 7 жыл бұрын
He's back! The legend returns!
@Alex-fk3ni
@Alex-fk3ni 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought Aston Kutcher is so smart!!! Thank you!
@dhruvenkalpeshkumarparvati4874
@dhruvenkalpeshkumarparvati4874 3 жыл бұрын
Finallly i understood after watching so many videos !!!!!!!!! THANKSSS
@midwestchau
@midwestchau 5 ай бұрын
Wow! Crystal clear explanation.
@raghavnandyal
@raghavnandyal 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation! I enjoyed it very much.
@jacques8290
@jacques8290 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation, thanks man!
@axelportebois1675
@axelportebois1675 6 жыл бұрын
So if in a TP of chemistry I measure the PH of my solution 6 times and I do a mean, must I use the Bessel correction to calculate the standard deviation? I mean, have I a sample in this case, or a population?
@alijabori7942
@alijabori7942 6 ай бұрын
great explanation! really allows for an intuitive understanding
@remyalatis2265
@remyalatis2265 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful explanation....Thank you so much
@fsetor1
@fsetor1 10 ай бұрын
Excellent. I wish I saw this 35 years ago.
@ankushthakare9748
@ankushthakare9748 3 жыл бұрын
On spot.... keep it up💥💥💥💥💥💥
@SOBIESKI_freedom
@SOBIESKI_freedom 6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, buddy. Learning a lot from you. 😃
@sabitedward
@sabitedward 11 ай бұрын
You are great. Enjoyed your explanation
@benschamberger8933
@benschamberger8933 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation!
@JaqulinePrabu76
@JaqulinePrabu76 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent description....thanks 👍🏽
@jr07toujoursj
@jr07toujoursj 4 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE AMAZING!!! When I first found the video I thought there's no way Imma spend 12 minutes to find out why I came across two formulas for the standard deviation. Yet here I am more excited than ever about stats! thanks so much! And btw, could your or anybody reading these comments tell me the difference between the standard error and the standard deviation of the sample? Thanks a lot!
@penelope9788
@penelope9788 6 жыл бұрын
you are one of my top 5 favourite people of all time. i wish you'd make more videos on stats :)
@linnmacdonald2246
@linnmacdonald2246 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mr. Nystrom!
@nonamenoname1942
@nonamenoname1942 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, good lively explanation!
@abdullahfaizurrahman6486
@abdullahfaizurrahman6486 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a good video, thanks man
@nguyenthanhnhon2723
@nguyenthanhnhon2723 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video! It help me a lot.
@BobBeatski71
@BobBeatski71 6 жыл бұрын
That was a bloody good description. :)
@elenemasterovoy4740
@elenemasterovoy4740 5 жыл бұрын
I love you videos and way you explain ! Thank you a lot!
@paulmcinerney6245
@paulmcinerney6245 4 жыл бұрын
love this presentation....at 10:46 you want to square those deviations from the mean :) .... great teaching!
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