NAD M23 Amplifier: Class D Done Right!

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Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac

Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac

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@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
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@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Жыл бұрын
Does this mean you won't be out to my house this Friday to personally install the speakers I won and only had to pay shipping and sales tax on? I still have a few Amazon gift cards if you need a little more.
@gregoryfrassetti1276
@gregoryfrassetti1276 Жыл бұрын
So you're not stuck in a far away land without your passport and any money...phew I feel better now. I'm glad that Nigerian Prince decided to let you free.
@clementng7718
@clementng7718 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@williamr3840
@williamr3840 Жыл бұрын
Does this mean I won't be flown to New York to have lunch with Debbie Harry? :0/
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 7 ай бұрын
I love my Parasound 2125v2 but I want to upgrade and must be
@andersrynnel4203
@andersrynnel4203 Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, thanks for a great channel and great reviews. I think the D-amps with purify tech is really interesting. I own aNAD C298 and it’s really clean, pure and very balanced, no blend or coloration what so ever, just pure power. The speaker and the pre-amp I choose will add the sound coloration, not the power amp. Might sound boring, but I think the opposite. It’s just a new perspective and one ingredient less to take into account when pairing. If you really want to understand how a specific speaker sounds, then the NAD C298 is one step in that direction. It’s like drinking the 100% purest vodka with no blend, it’s what you blend it with that matters. Just a different perspective I wanted to share.
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 7 ай бұрын
I love my Parasound 2125v2 but I want to upgrade and must be
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 7 ай бұрын
To beautifully color the sound, I also use Cardas Parsec RCA cables. My video kzbin.info/www/bejne/bp7bgmV4fs-mrdU
@spacejaime
@spacejaime Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Using all your current speakers to find the true sound signature makes for a very informative review.
@Johnny5_Alive
@Johnny5_Alive Жыл бұрын
Steve, Thank you for teaching us about other music that is out there!! This is just as important as audio equipment.! I am also so glad you still get excited about reviewing everything!!! A closed mind is an empty mind and you are the exact opposite! And I love this NAD like no other amplifier!!!! There is incredible clean, clear and detailed sound coming from ALL of the speaker I have! You are right, it locks into speakers and just exhibits control like I have never heard before.
@SirMountainpass
@SirMountainpass 11 ай бұрын
I am looking at pairing it with the new M66 pre-amp - it should prove to be a great match 😊
@markblock8659
@markblock8659 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful amp. I like the industrial design. And from your description of the sonics, it seems like it checks all my boxes.
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 7 ай бұрын
I love my Parasound 2125v2 but I want to upgrade and must be
@rudolfappel7236
@rudolfappel7236 Жыл бұрын
The M33 houses the same Purifi Power amp modules and they sound amazing, I have not regretted that purchase. I drive Buchardt Audio S400 SE speakers, those need power and with the M33/M23 they sound amazing.
@cbalano
@cbalano Жыл бұрын
In August 2021 I purchased the NAD M28 amplifier, which is based on the same Purify Eigentakt modules. By far, the best multichannel amp I owned. Before I owned a 5 channels P5 from Anthem, which required 3000W of power and two electric cables. Now, I own a 7 channels amp that only consumes 1000W, if that. Also the size and the weight is reduced by 60% or so. Clearly, I am not going back to class A/B.
@ceescosijn5656
@ceescosijn5656 8 ай бұрын
You have the combo M33\23. That means you don’t use the poweramp of the M33 anymore? I also consider to buy this combo therefore my question.
@rudolfappel7236
@rudolfappel7236 8 ай бұрын
@@ceescosijn5656 I only own the M33, and am blown away by its performance. I wrote M33/M23 ad I expect/assume very similar performance. If you consider the separate M23 Power Amplifier, take a look at the new M66 separate Streaming/DAC/PreAmp.
@pauldemara7633
@pauldemara7633 Жыл бұрын
Great review Steve. As always, thanks for what you do. Sounds like "Class D" amps have come of age.
@Roof_Pizza
@Roof_Pizza Жыл бұрын
LOLZ. Only of you buy the technology from a third party and pay twice for the pleasure. What happens when the licensing agreement expires? After warranty service could prove to be problematic.
@peterhaydock7836
@peterhaydock7836 Жыл бұрын
As always... informative and entertaining...well done, Steve
@daveycrockett5738
@daveycrockett5738 Жыл бұрын
Every time I watch you Steve, it always makes me want to listen to more music again.. hah thanks Steve
@emilesprenger
@emilesprenger Жыл бұрын
Steve, Thants for the wonderful review. I have the NAD M22 V2 amp which has the previous generation Class D amps from Bruno. I love it!
@angi733
@angi733 10 ай бұрын
Me too, tempted to pick up a second M22 V2 and try Bridged mode, probably not necessary but hey!
@mpp9964
@mpp9964 Жыл бұрын
Have to wonder if this NAD paired with a tube pre could really lock into SG’s sensibilities
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
100% a tube preamp
@Staybrown11
@Staybrown11 Жыл бұрын
Yea…tubes…I’m thinking the same. Preamplifier
@petekutheis3822
@petekutheis3822 Жыл бұрын
Yes I have a French made Audiophonics Class D with the e purify modules. Excellent. It absolutely blows away my mc75 monoblocks. 400 watts, 4 ohms. 1200 bucks no vat no tax fast shipping. Yes, distortion free it seems, and hyper clear. Using with Sonusfaber Olympica 1s.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
Sounds yummy
@dilbyjones
@dilbyjones Жыл бұрын
@@stephencosta6814but what speakers you use when it “ blows away”
@milosdunjic8718
@milosdunjic8718 Жыл бұрын
I have class D AUDIOPHONICS LPA-S500NC Power Amplifier using Hypex NCore NC502MP integrated board and also Buckeye Purifi 1ET400A Amplifier, 2-channel class D … in the hi-gain Purify gain is perfect match for Hypex nc502mp and use them to biamp my Neat Motive 1 speakers.
@almcgowan5289
@almcgowan5289 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous job on the review of the M23... as always! I was hoping you would get a chance to review the NAD Master Series Amps and was wondering what your impressions would be of their class D module. I've been enjoying my M33 for two years now which uses the same amplifier modules. The system is paired with Ohm Walsh Tall 3000's and I have been super happy with that combination. I too felt like I was rediscovering my music collection with the M33 due to its resolution (clarity). Thank you again Steve for all the work you do on this channel, it's such a treat to see your reviews and to get exposed to new music and artists.
@robertbelknap
@robertbelknap Жыл бұрын
Al Mcgowan, Whats the soundstage like with the Ohm Walsh Tall 3000, I had some Bose 901's back in the late 80's and I swear no matter wear you stood it was huge stereo.
@almcgowan5289
@almcgowan5289 Жыл бұрын
@@robertbelknap sorry for the delay. The sound stage is wide and deep. My too is about 15’ x 40’ with 10’ ceilings. Honestly there is not a bad place to stand and not get great lighting imagining. The size of you room will determine if the size they recommend. I recall those Bose speakers but never owned a pair. I’ve been super happy with my 3000’s. The people T Ohm are great work. If you have questions you can the owner John very nice. Good luck.
@drplot1
@drplot1 Жыл бұрын
How do you think this amplifier compares with much higher cost Class AB amplifiers- Pass labs, Simaudio, Ayre, Mark Levinson, Dan Agostino etc. What is the tradeoff?
@patrickgeorge141
@patrickgeorge141 Жыл бұрын
Look forward to checking on out! Nice review as always, respect your perspective. I know bigger amplifiers are not needed yet always seem to draw me in, especially when heard at moderate to low levels. I will get the PS Audio M1200 at some point as well. Just add them to my growing collection. And yes I try and listen to them all. Thank you kind sir.
@dingdong2103
@dingdong2103 Жыл бұрын
The need for a bigger amplifier depends on your speaker sensitivity and the loudness you want to play with. If you have speakers that have a low impedance, a small amp may not be able to handle the load without distorting. There are many reasons to like big amps.
@bryonmollica
@bryonmollica Жыл бұрын
I moved up to M700 , 2 months ago It's absolutely a game changer
@jamesmuto2955
@jamesmuto2955 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding and very educational review, I greatly enjoy your experience and insights. Wow, thank you
@denniscolyn5435
@denniscolyn5435 Жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying my NAD 3125 with my Dahlquist DQ12's for 30 years.
@SuperMcgenius
@SuperMcgenius Жыл бұрын
I had a pair of Vandersteen 5s , went though many preamps and power amps, sumo, bryston , moon, clasae Krell , all great .My end game was a Aesthetix preamp and a VTL power amp, great match.
@robertwoodward9231
@robertwoodward9231 Жыл бұрын
Planet Waves is a great album probably put together in short time. He was having fun as you say. A just for the hell of it album that still blows most anything of the day, out of the water. This raw classic is in my top 10, no doubt.l
@RobWhittlestone
@RobWhittlestone Жыл бұрын
Great review, Steve. Makes me want to try an M23. One day my beloved Exposure will need replacing and I think my KEF Reference 3/4 would appreciate the extra power and control... All the best, Rob in Switzerland
@SastusBulbas1
@SastusBulbas1 3 ай бұрын
This amplifier's bass response and descriptions have me perplexed, is it accuracy? I have heard it has great dampening factor meaning great bass control, but a couple of reviews mentioned less weight impact from the lower end. Yet despite that curiosity it seems everyone is saying the same thing about the mid and high performance that its a great performer. I'm wondering if it would be a good replacement for an older Krell. Have you listened to the M66 which partners this? I have seen some reviews but not a lot regarding how if using Dirac it will take the phono signal and digitise it, yet actually do a great job, I love old analogue and class A A/B amps, plus valves, but modern streaming and room correction sounds worth looking into with modern housing and L shaped rooms. But there seems to be mixed opinions on digitising analogue.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac 3 ай бұрын
High damping factor leads to very tight highly defined bass. But that also means the base is not as full and Rich .
@robk5745
@robk5745 Жыл бұрын
This amplifier seems like a must have in the Arsenal! Looks amazing too!
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree, 100%
@jamienaquin3918
@jamienaquin3918 Жыл бұрын
As always, great review. I've heard nothing but rave reviews about the M23. Im very interested in the NAD M33 integrated amplifier/steamer. It uses pretty much this amp. I wonder how it would sound with Martin Logan Motion 40's?
@klxz79
@klxz79 Жыл бұрын
I think the M33 may be more similar to the C298, at least they share the same power supply which is slightly different than the M23’s power supply
@dilbyjones
@dilbyjones Жыл бұрын
Me either but if it’s popular in this climate. Who knows what will happen to the price.
@jamienaquin3918
@jamienaquin3918 Жыл бұрын
@klxz79 thanks for the clarification. @Tex I agree, unfortunately it's not a good time for me to drop that much money. Both the M23 and M33 are high on my list. Clarity and detail is what I'm looking for, but I may want 3 channel amplification.
@RFIDemocracy
@RFIDemocracy Жыл бұрын
@@klxz79 I believe that it is correct to state that the M23 is the very power amp from the M33
@jamesj9728
@jamesj9728 Жыл бұрын
Steve, I checked after this review and I have a chance to demo one, but one thing I didn't hear is if you think long listening sessions are possible? It's typical for me to burn out if there is too much information being thrown at me. Do you think 2-3 hour listening sessions would be enjoyable / engaging? I own the Accuphase A36, which is an all day, every day amp with zero fatigue. Thank you!
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
Try tube preamplifiers I think that’s where the magic will happen
@sbwlearning1372
@sbwlearning1372 Жыл бұрын
Agree !! Use a valve preamp with a monster class D power amp. Sounds delightful.
@jamesj9728
@jamesj9728 Жыл бұрын
@@sbwlearning1372 @Stephen Costa I have a tube pre - the Aesthetix Calypso line stage. :)
@sbwlearning1372
@sbwlearning1372 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesj9728 That is one gorgeous preamp. I'm a little further back in the food chain using a Doge 8 clarity
@mikegoddard7354
@mikegoddard7354 Жыл бұрын
Just bought this last year, my first brand new power amp. I have been skeptical of class D and honestly when I heard the M33 I was really impressed with multiple speakers. Everything is the same with the M23 but it's even better performance. It has a touch of warmth which is odd for a class D and takes away that class D edge that some people do not like. Closest performer at twice the price was the bel canto black, which only the plastic version is that cheap/lowest priced.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
I have the same thoughts I know this would be a fantastic device
@citytianyu
@citytianyu Жыл бұрын
This is also my first all new amp. Really like it. Looking for a better pre now.
@chebrubin
@chebrubin Жыл бұрын
I know it is a cringe. But can't we use DSP to simulate that thick Class A sound with purifi Class D? Gene from Audiholics loves the NAD too.
@mikegoddard7354
@mikegoddard7354 Жыл бұрын
@@chebrubin My first integrated was the NAD 326BEE which is a class A/B design and is honestly a great integrated. Really it's a power amp with a volume control which is extreme bare bones and great for a purist. Avoiding a lot of interference and all that extra stuff by jamming a whole bunch of crap into a box. Honestly I feel the M23 has just the right amount of warmth, even though I would like it a touch warmer. I have never owned real class D amps, basically just those texas instru 50-100 dollar ones and when not being bad it does lack what class A/B provides. The only thing I would say is a con for some and not huge mistake or incompetence in design is that the bass is far more timid. If you have a really bass heavy speaker this is great cause it balances out. But honestly I cant fault it, it's not that bad. If class A/B were 10/10 in the bass department this would be an 8 in my eyes vs other class D which is like a 4 or less
@mikegoddard7354
@mikegoddard7354 Жыл бұрын
@@citytianyu I use a topping pre90, solely for equal measurements. I believe a tube amp would be great. I am about to get a tube dac soon and I am certain that will really make the sound perfect. But a tube pre amp which is probably only using the tube as a buffer stage would be perfect to add a further touch of warmth. Like I said in my eyes it's basically leaning towards the warm side and you dont want to make it too warm.
@mitchlee2961
@mitchlee2961 9 ай бұрын
Hifi is really all about beauty and pleasure for me! It's a bit funny. I pretty much only like tube amps under 40 watts, especially under 20; or class D cheapies. Now I admit to liking some older Carvers, but then they are the exception that proves the rule. Currently I am playing with a Cayin A-50T, a Dyna Stereo 70, a SABAJ A5, a Reisong you recommended (thanks!), and a pile of little Nobsound, Aiyiam, AudioSource, and the like. If an amp is going to add a sound, then I want it to be sensuous and lovely! Otherwise, neutral is best. And even cheap class D amps can often be remarkably invisible. Generally I drive 1980 Klipsch Cornwalls, big early 60s EVs, and misc home-builts. My guilty pleasure is 4 Bose 901 VI hooked to a 70s Sansui quad receiver. Accuracy only matters if it's fun! It's really all about beauty and pleasure!
@Kami84
@Kami84 4 ай бұрын
There's no doubt that it's a thing of beauty
@Cujobob
@Cujobob Жыл бұрын
Purifi amplifiers are the truly high end amplifiers everyone should have. Everyone may not like hearing this far into the recording, but if you want to add some distortion in - just add a tube preamp.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
💯 percent
@Cujobob
@Cujobob Жыл бұрын
@@milosdunjic8718 nice, that’s the guy who was selling them on ASR, right? I have one already I’m fond of, I will probably wait a generation and get another.
@saint6563
@saint6563 Жыл бұрын
2000+ views in the 1st hour. Congrats Steve & thanks for "spreading the news"!
@vtkz
@vtkz Жыл бұрын
Does people still care about the Class of the Amplifier ? I use an complete Class D active setup (Neumann) and they sound phenomanal. Same as the Genelec. ATC use Class A and sounded also awesome. Its about the complete concept and setup and most important acoustics. When you buy high quality products the differences are soo small and minimal that an good room acoustic are way more influence the sound than the amp. Nowadays you can buy such good products way easyier and cheaper than nowadays where the selection is limited
@shannonwilliams6623
@shannonwilliams6623 4 ай бұрын
Hey Steve I'm interested in buying the M23, my question is I have yamaha AS2100 I wanted to know if you have had any time with this integrated or the 2200, does the NAD comparison is the NAD better in sound?
@edvedder7835
@edvedder7835 Жыл бұрын
Great review Steve. Thanks. I have the cheap man's version, the C298 paired with the Q Acoutics 50's and it sounds immaculate.
@richm4402
@richm4402 Жыл бұрын
Would you mind sharing what preamp you’re using with that C298? Thanks
@edvedder7835
@edvedder7835 Жыл бұрын
@@richm4402 nad 758v3 which is gonna be replaced soon.
@richm4402
@richm4402 Жыл бұрын
@@edvedder7835 Lol, that’s what I’m using too!
@edvedder7835
@edvedder7835 Жыл бұрын
@@richm4402 finding a replacement is not easy. The 778 has issues. Want dirac.
@richm4402
@richm4402 Жыл бұрын
@@edvedder7835 I’m thinking the C298 deserves a decent preamp with HT bypass. C658 seems to have issues too, hopefully they’ll come out with a version 2 .
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful product. Enjoyed their documentary on KZbin.
@rtbnyc
@rtbnyc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for including the Duet 15s in the review.
@DeAudiofilosyLocos
@DeAudiofilosyLocos Жыл бұрын
Looks great, I hope I get to try it 😊
@Darokkk
@Darokkk 8 ай бұрын
M23 have faston connectors from the power plug...you can move them with the finger which means no good connection (less deep sound stage)...once they are soldered this amp becomes a beast
@nebulusnebulus6503
@nebulusnebulus6503 Жыл бұрын
I want to pair this amp with a Primaluna Evo 400 pre-amp with my Pylon Amber Mk2 (97dB and double 12”) The damping factor of the Nad is about 700, I think.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@kunsliu
@kunsliu 2 ай бұрын
i d like to pair this amp with the freya plus. what do you think of my idea?
@rabit818
@rabit818 Жыл бұрын
You need a a solid Technics 1200 for the powerful NAD. I wonder how it compares to a lower power amp at low volume.
@aligrant6006
@aligrant6006 6 ай бұрын
MUSIC PRODUCERS BEWARE! It's is a great amp acoustically, I love it. I have the M33 but the problem with NAD amps no one is talking about is latency! If you want to play anything live, like putting the stylus on the record, the gap between action and sound is seconds! So when I try to play some ideas in my living room for music production for example, the latency makes its impossible to use. So its only good for Spotify streaming or digital listening, anything analog or music production it falls apart.... not sound wise but timing wise.
@lsaideOK
@lsaideOK Жыл бұрын
I recently picked up a pair of dirty weekends to some extent due to your very positive review. Have you tilted the speaker as you did the Zu soul? It is a short speaker. I think it probably needs the decoupling as the bass can rock my place. Finally, you really didn't share much in the way of negatives with the speaker but sort of hinted at some in this review. Any such critical thoughts now?
@gtric1466
@gtric1466 Жыл бұрын
I got my DW's just before they stopped making them. I would guess you have the Clarity caps and the high-fi footers. Mine are 3' from the front wall to the front of the speaker and a little over 2 from the side. Equal-lateral triangle toed-in just outside my shoulders. No need to tilt them back. They sound Amazing best if heard I had JBL's, Wharfedale's and others.. There are not analytical at all but will expose any weakness in your chain. Had to give up Spotify because I stream through an iPad and the conversation from OGG to ACC which I think was the issue made the upper vocals not bright but grainy. Now streaming Apple Music and it's Bliss. Also using a HSU sub for under 80HZ.
@lsaideOK
@lsaideOK Жыл бұрын
@@gtric1466 they stopped making them? I just got mine a couple weeks ago. Yes I got the first level upgrade and the house speaker cables. I didn't plan on getting footers until I noticed quite a bit of vibration from the speakers' bass output on certain songs. I tried SVS footers first but they didn't fit. Thinking about Herbie's now as they can glide. They have a 60-day free trial just like the speakers. I have them nine feet apart and I sit 12 ft from them. I Have them set out into the room as far as they can go. Less than 3 ft. I am still playing with the toe-in. From what you described to just straight on. I like them so far but I'm going to take my time with the full evaluation. I expect the sound will change somewhat after I get footers. I use them with vinyl, CDs, TV, and streaming with Google Chromecast. So about everything. At this point I don't think I need a subwoofer. Seems to go quite low
@gtric1466
@gtric1466 Жыл бұрын
@@lsaideOK Awesome Enjoy yes sound will change a bit even though they burn it the woofer. I believe you have the 6 mine where the 2nd generation of the originals when they started using new drivers at that time they were 999.00 without the Clarity caps and hi go footers. All in I was at 1,500 because I had to get Ghost Black Maple WAF., 😊
@lsaideOK
@lsaideOK Жыл бұрын
@@gtric1466 those were the days! 999! Mine was 1599 but I got the rustic hickory, the upgrade, and the house cables. So over $2,800! With footers It will approach 3000. Given the price, I think they should include the footers. In my brief listening, I think they are a necessity.
@gtric1466
@gtric1466 Жыл бұрын
@@lsaideOK yeah I hear you got mine the summer of 2021 was the next to last run during Covid waited 4 months
@kencoleman5686
@kencoleman5686 Жыл бұрын
I have the NAD M33 integrated streaming amplifier which has the same Purifi amplifier in it, and wonder how using the M23 with a great DAC and preamp compares to the NAD M33 which is an integrated all in one.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
The M 23 does not convert the signal digitally like the M m33. I prefer the M 23 with a good dac and preamp.
@kencoleman5686
@kencoleman5686 Жыл бұрын
@@stephencosta6814 i don’t do analogue so i want to compared to a digital source including streaming
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you understand what I’m saying any signal coming in here becomes digital so you’re actually converting it twice
@Revelator2025
@Revelator2025 Жыл бұрын
Once again another class D showing the absolutists that GREAT sound can come from class D done right. I have a pair of AGD Audion monos that are really fantastic little amps.
@histubeness
@histubeness Жыл бұрын
Did you get a good deal on your AGD Audions? Were they the mk.lll's? --I was quite impressed with Jay Iyagi's review of them. --But they're expensive.
@felipedantas4666
@felipedantas4666 Жыл бұрын
To your taste (off course). Is the NAD, at ~1,5x the price of the mytek, good enough to replace it?
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
I would definitely say yes
@ryanschipp8513
@ryanschipp8513 Жыл бұрын
Steve, you should check out Nuprime power amps. Excellent value that flies under the radar. Nuprime is owned by the old owner of Nuforce. Many, many years of making class D amps. Nuprime makes their own power modules. No taking someone else's idea and throwing it into a chassis. They start at about $1800.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan!
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 Жыл бұрын
John Rutan would agree about the Vandersteen's as well!
@theomindschrddr7983
@theomindschrddr7983 Жыл бұрын
I think i exchange my ML 532h for it, although Gato monobloks are also nice. Is it in the same gradation as the NAD?
@ethimself5064
@ethimself5064 Жыл бұрын
Off topic - Have you ever come across a Phase Linear Digital Time delay from the 70's and 80's? Or from other manufactures way back then? Thanks Steve
@davidcarr6831
@davidcarr6831 Жыл бұрын
Nice review! And a 3 year warranty on NAD Masters series
@connorduke4619
@connorduke4619 Жыл бұрын
Interesting analysis of the bass. For my own tastes, I dislike the bloaty typical bass of Pass Labs and would probably lean to NAD M23 on that score. An excellent comparison would be this NAD M23 Class D versus the Keces S300 Class AB for almost the identical price.
@buddyjenkins7188
@buddyjenkins7188 Жыл бұрын
How does this amplifier compare to the amp in the M33, is it identical?
@Roof_Pizza
@Roof_Pizza Жыл бұрын
2 year warranty? The shortest in the industry. What is it a sub plate amp or something?
@jovitosy5441
@jovitosy5441 Жыл бұрын
Hi!Steve. Would you mind giving us the right placement of each sound acoustic behind your back? I have'nt heard you tackle any of those sound acoustic.
@andymouse
@andymouse Жыл бұрын
You wouldn't like the sound of the M23 in the UK !...nice review......cheers.
@IHearEverythingDude
@IHearEverythingDude Жыл бұрын
Finally very good measuring stuff gets attention. Exactly how good measuring stuff sound like, extremly clean you can clearly hear whats inside the recording nothing is added. Meat on the bones is just noise and other kind of distortions that other stuff brings. If somebody likes that its okay I guess.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
We each choose our own way. You know it’s funny, when photography came in people still bought painted portraits!
@IHearEverythingDude
@IHearEverythingDude Жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac ye as I said, choose your poison.
@joenovak6393
@joenovak6393 Жыл бұрын
I view Class D to when Plasma TVs had enfolded too. Give it time this will develop into "WOW" then, audio technology moves on "OLED" then we continue this journey into Class XX? Enjoy your content Steve and I look forward to additional content.
@lillyrosemarykingofh
@lillyrosemarykingofh Жыл бұрын
off topic but headed to Tokyo … what listening rooms there are not-to-miss? … might also be an idea for an episode too … best
@carlitomelon4610
@carlitomelon4610 Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it can drive the LRS. Can't imagine how transparent that combo would be! Which preamp Steve? I use a Musical Paradise 701ii tube pre with Bryston amp for the LRS. It takes care of tonal beauty & 3D soundstage . 🎶☺️🎶
@carlitomelon4610
@carlitomelon4610 Жыл бұрын
PS Got it, a Pass SS preamp. 🎶🙄🎶
@gilbertovega9981
@gilbertovega9981 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone present here by chance had the opportunity to listen to both the M23 and the M33? If so, what conclusions did they reach? His thoughts on the matter would help me a lot, thanks in advance and good afternoon
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
From what I’ve read, the M 23 is the more pure amp the M 33 converts all the signals coming in into digital. I don’t like that very much you’re basically hearing a digital audio converter dac I would definitely go for the M 23 just my Thought
@gilbertovega9981
@gilbertovega9981 Жыл бұрын
@@stephencosta6814 Thanks for your answer, best regards!
@Aswaguespack
@Aswaguespack Жыл бұрын
I’ve not been a fan of the few Class D amps I’ve heard but with anything there’s always room for improvement and that usually means it escalates out of my affordability range.
@mikecoffee100
@mikecoffee100 Жыл бұрын
exactly
@sbwlearning1372
@sbwlearning1372 Жыл бұрын
Right now there are amp manufacturers who will provide you with a beautiful sounding class D amp around £800 for somewhere between 400/ 600 wpc Like NAD they get the boards ( icepower,hypex, purefi etc etc ) add power supplies RCA XLR ins / outs monoblock capabilities fancy output/ input buffers etc etc. But they are small operators. I drive mine with a Doge 8 clarity preamp. Hasn't been turned off in 5 years. Sounds gorgeous with analogue or digital.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
N A D 298 $2000. 90 percent of the same sound of the m 23 I would think
@gotham61
@gotham61 Жыл бұрын
@8.30 “ they put out as much sound from their rear end as they do from the front.” Some women have said the same thing about me.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@madcrabber1113
@madcrabber1113 Жыл бұрын
What work did you do at the recording session?
@scaryperson27
@scaryperson27 Жыл бұрын
A good album to listen to is The Mambo King soundtrack. Arturo Sandoval is in that one. Very nice.
@williamr3840
@williamr3840 Жыл бұрын
Bloomin' heck! Exactly how many makes of speakers are there? :0)
@PDCRed
@PDCRed Жыл бұрын
The Cyrus 200 class D amp is a masterpiece. Have owned for a few years. Nobody ever reviews Cyrus, shame. Great form factor and British made too.
@gokcenk
@gokcenk Жыл бұрын
Class D done right… Can you please get your hands on Aavik i280 or i180 and please review it? Thank you!!
@sportbikeguy9875
@sportbikeguy9875 7 ай бұрын
looking at the specs, im almost positive this is just a few texas instruments TPA3255 chips, which are worth just a few dollars a piece, some nice ADC's/DAC's and good brand name capacitors.. it might sound good, but its NOT WORTH $5000, probably less than $300 worth of parts in there lol
@SergeySedlovsky
@SergeySedlovsky Жыл бұрын
I've heard there is gonna be a problem with connecting with my May DAC, how is this gonna be possible?
@nikolay2687
@nikolay2687 9 ай бұрын
hello, tell me how it will be combined with pmc 5.21?
@annebokma4637
@annebokma4637 Жыл бұрын
Steve, don't do a spoiler before the first minute is done 🤣🤣🤣
@editorjuno
@editorjuno Жыл бұрын
Mazel tov, Steve! You've discovered an actual high fidelity -- meaning "great faithfulness" to the intentions of the folks behind the recording -- component rather than something merely "high end" or, for that matter, high-priced and pleasantly euphonic to your particular, heavily conditioned -- you can take the boy out of Sound by Singer, but it's much more difficult to take the Sound by Singer out of the boy -- preferences. That said, feature set and cosmetics aside, I'm willing to bet this thing performs 95 to 99 percent identically to the dozens of other -- and very likely far cheaper -- power amps using the same Purifi modules. The best thing a Purifi OEM can do is provide an input buffer that doesn't pollute the built-in near-perfection of Bruno's work -- so congrats to NAD for apparently accomplishng that and to you for noticing truly high fidelity!
@bertoray5497
@bertoray5497 Жыл бұрын
I too, love your job. 🙋
@tyeeslayer
@tyeeslayer Жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@martinkatz7639
@martinkatz7639 Жыл бұрын
Great review your video was very clear better than usual just thought I'd mention it . New camera? Hate the soul patch regardless still like your reviews.
@kingtrance307
@kingtrance307 Жыл бұрын
Nice review and amp but for that kind of money I still would much prefer a Parasound Halo A21.
@deputy3690
@deputy3690 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Steve said the price with a straight face! It looks like he almost lost it though
@barbaradee5191
@barbaradee5191 Жыл бұрын
I have a NAD integrated amp and a NAD CD player I like them both.,
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
The M 23 is on a whole different level
@stimpy1226
@stimpy1226 Жыл бұрын
Does it have maximum clarity and good harmonic structure at the same time? This is a question that I ask about every audio system. I find that when the sound is too clean, the harmonic structure of any instrument does not sound quite right.
@tg6373
@tg6373 Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely digging my Rogue Audio Dragon class D-ish amp. Power for days...
@SuperMcgenius
@SuperMcgenius Жыл бұрын
Only two years, Bryston does 20 years
@carlos2bass
@carlos2bass Жыл бұрын
Not only that, but Bryston is designed and made in Canada.
@jedknutson8373
@jedknutson8373 Жыл бұрын
i had the nad c298 same purifi module and heard zero difference as far as being better than my Rotel amp. yes, I know the m23 is better built blah blah, and a better power supply, etc but I just couldn't justify going the D route...
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
That’s OK I have a big heavy Macintosh and I’m going with this also
@Staybrown11
@Staybrown11 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what tubes will do with the M23? Tube phono pre? Even a tube preamp…might give that meat on the bones?
@8bitsago
@8bitsago Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. I love your channel. How can I contact you privately? I am a subscriber to your channel and I own a single ended triode running EL34 tubes with 35 watts per side. I am looking for a set of speakers to compliment the amp and my taste. And since you seem to love Klipsch as much as I do I was hoping you could point mein the right direction. I own a set of klipsch rp 150m bookshelves. And they thrill and move me more than my sonus Fabers and the dynaudios I had before them. The Klipsch chisel out I strumenta so well when connected to me amp. Is there something that does this (sharp imaging with air and space in between) a little better than the very affordable klipsch RP range? Cheers and keep up the good work. -Adam.
@geraldschrader8511
@geraldschrader8511 Жыл бұрын
Become a Patreon member at the right price level and you can have a monthly private phone call with Steve.
@klaverro
@klaverro Жыл бұрын
Very good review Steve. I agree with your findings. It’s clean, transparent and fast sounding but I found that too fatigue for doing long listening sessions. It’s that meat on the bones and a lack of natural sound (IMO, it doesn't flow enough) that I am missing in the sound of the NAD. Mola Mola is doing a better job with D-class amplification (although that's another price league too...).
@delkat123
@delkat123 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Bruno do the Mola Mola D class amps too?
@klaverro
@klaverro Жыл бұрын
@@delkat123 Yep. Still a different interpretation and sound.
@Geeko-vd9ld
@Geeko-vd9ld Жыл бұрын
Didnt know Jessie Pinkman designed amplifiers now
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 Жыл бұрын
If the world goes renewable , they may outlaw class AB amps. Class D may be in all of our futures.
@scottyo64
@scottyo64 Жыл бұрын
Is the man going to come take my class a/b amps?
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64yes 😢😢😢 😂😂😂😂
@bryanherr1093
@bryanherr1093 Жыл бұрын
If the world is renewable then you can use whatever you want.
@crazyprayingmantis5596
@crazyprayingmantis5596 Жыл бұрын
Nuclear is renewable
@user-ex9zm7bg3x
@user-ex9zm7bg3x Жыл бұрын
what's renewable about class D?
@maxpower78-15
@maxpower78-15 Жыл бұрын
This thing has pretty cool styling
@tomhohum4275
@tomhohum4275 Жыл бұрын
We’ll, being retired and on a fixed income I guess I’ll have to stick with my M22. Rats🤣!!
@RumblestripDotNet
@RumblestripDotNet Жыл бұрын
Needs a good tube pre amp?
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
I'm working on that.
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq Жыл бұрын
Get the right preamp. If it happens to be tube, then that's what you should get.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac please work faster we need to know lol
@angi733
@angi733 Жыл бұрын
Not quite the same but for three years I have been enjoying my NAD M22V2 Power and M12 Pre Amp with Bluos streaming; it sounds fantastic and offered great value for money over and above some bigger and more expensive Naim brands.
@alexpal1495
@alexpal1495 Жыл бұрын
Price in Europe?
@carlsitler9071
@carlsitler9071 Жыл бұрын
Why stop at $4000? Might as well get a McIntosh MC451.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
I already have Macintosh and I’m still getting this one
@77dharmabum
@77dharmabum Жыл бұрын
The euphoria of even Eigentakt eventually dissapears, Yes the analogy of "no meat on the bones" is fitting, there is some musicality that is lost with this technology. Personally i am not putting my music under the microscope and i don't need a "tool", i need emotion and the euphoria remains for all eternity with something like a coda continuum no.8 or a First watt j2 with the right speaker.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, but everybody’s looking to play the audio game in different ways. This is one of them!
@markcomisky7106
@markcomisky7106 Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve are you going to do your system under 500 dollars and 1000 dollars ect...
@banjop84
@banjop84 Жыл бұрын
Bridge this is not a good idea. You have to make sure your speakers do not drop below 5-6 ohm.
@SweatLaserXP
@SweatLaserXP Жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the Parasound Halo A21+? It has a 5 year warranty (parts and labor), it's a conventional class AB circuit, and it's a little bit more affordable.
@klxz79
@klxz79 Жыл бұрын
I upgraded from a Parasound Halo A23+ to the NAD M23 and I've been loving it. I assumed that my Parasound wasn't the weak spot in my system and that the Marantz preamp was, I was pleasantly surprised when that assumption was wrong. I heard a lot more detail in the M23, much better imaging, and soundstage was much deeper.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
M23 blows this out of the water
@kingtrance307
@kingtrance307 Жыл бұрын
@@stephencosta6814 - I would think so it’s built like a tank and has much more current amperage to drive anything. Grunt and balls…
@richardelliott8352
@richardelliott8352 Жыл бұрын
Another nice informative review, always appreciated. I wonder if some of the impressions were from power that the reviewer is simply not used to. I thought it clever to have a case that is both silver, and black, eliminating the need to manufacture two different cases for customers desiring one or the other basic color.. As a guy with power hungry speakers I was all in, until the spec, " made in china". As a man who has always worked for his income, anyplace with the real possibility of slave labor somewhere in the production chain is not my idea of a good product. I hope the technology spreads thoughout the industry, perhaps at $3000 a pop I might get something to support manufacturing in my economy., or someplace without documented labor abuse. I am well aware of the realities of trade in today's world, The computer I am using for this replay was made in china. But when there is a reasonable alternative, I'll seek those products.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard, I regularly review US and European made audio. Catch is it tends to be a lot more expensive.
@stephencosta6814
@stephencosta6814 Жыл бұрын
Can you stop with that? Made in China of BS already I don’t care if it’s freaking made on Mars the only things that matter is if it sounds good or not and obviously this sounds fantastic
@editorjuno
@editorjuno Жыл бұрын
For $3750 MSRP, it better tune up my car and paint my house. 🤑
@rudolfappel7236
@rudolfappel7236 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps car tuning and painting videos are the better choice for you.
@bizyz
@bizyz Жыл бұрын
the marantz player in this system makes all the difference.
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