NAFTA explained by avocados. And shoes.

[@vanizakMo]

But you can argue this both way. American farmers get corn subsidies and now they sell them to mexico tax free. Many mexican farmers were devestated by this so......it goes both ways.

[@jrobertofragoso6302]

That's the reason why immigration increased after NAFTA

[@arisini]

sry, the only one full of shit in the head is you.

[@ozzyherrera1027]

That's why some of us came to the us. Mostly illegally. The land we had and used to grew grains such as corn and beans became impossible to do at a profit, due to much better quality and cheapest US corn and beans. Not only is the weather better in the US, but also they have more advanced technologies and can produce more grains per square meter than a farmer in Mexico

[@KS-kb4zt]

Avocado is shit worth

[@mikecarone7320]

Americans lost good jobs most Truck parts are made in Mexico

[@urbanexpansion1357]

"Who really thinks about NAFTA every time they pick up an avocado at the grocery store?" Everyone who watched this video. Thanks.

[@TurnRacing]

hahaha seriously

[@edwardcurtisbennett3888]

So many people seem to not understand that avocado is just an analogy for 'Mexican products'

[@rustyshackelford6834]

I bought a belt from Mexico and it broke the next day. I will never buy anything built in Mexico again.

[@lynngraham2934]

American Patriot... Today I bought my 3rd electric shaver in less than a year, all made in China.

[@rustyshackelford6834]

Lynn Graham I quit buying Chinese products years ago.

[@fuckfannyfiddlefart]

So you never bought an American product that failed, or is this just rather your political opinion biasing your memory, honestly it is very disingenuous, by the way you forget to say how much cheaper it was because you were able to exploit lower wage workers!

[@holytrashify]

fuckfannyfiddlefart CONGRATULATIONS!!! you are the first person of this thread to have successfully projected your own biases, otherwise known as a "strawman". Thereby potentially starting a back and forth tit for tat "why i am right and you are wrong" argument leading to nowhere. Nobody ever mentioned how American products never fail, before your comment people were just sharing their personal experiences, one of mine is that Chinese products usually do tend to suck and break easily...also you should be happy then that Trump is moving all jobs back in order not to "exploit" those poor low wage workers.

[@edwardcurtisbennett3888]

It's the opposite in Canada. When NAFTA (called the FTA before Mexico joined) was signed in 1987 55% of Canadians voted for anti-FTA parties in '88. Liberal leader John Turner even said free trade would make Canada an American colony. Today, both the Liberals and Conservatives support NAFTA passionately, and even the socialist, anti-trade NDP prefers to just not talk about it.

[@electric6877]

Edward Curtis Bennett Yep! I guess I was right! For the US it might be harmful but for Canada it was beneficial. Unless I’m wrong but that’s what I had already figured.

[@fironfiron8843]

I think the main point of this video is that two countries with equal standards is a win-win. Two countries with not so equal standard is a loss. Canada won't cancel NAFTA because both Canada and America benefit. Our trade trade with Korea and EU has been beneficial as well despite the deficit,they have a lot of factories here in US. What needs to be is to fix Mexico with equal labor standards.

[@lynngraham2934]

Edward Curtis Bennett....Yes they all support free trade treaties, because regardless of what tag they give themselves, they are 100% for the ultra-wealthy.

[@Dr_Do-Little]

I was among the protestors against NAFTA in Québec city. Still what you might call a "socialist" but I changed my mind too. Somewhat. International trades are now an essential part of the modern and integrated economy. Like it or not.One thing they failed to mention. Probably on purpose. Is why the American have a much harder time coping with international trades than Canada or other similar economy. Because this is happening all over the world. NAFTA is just one of many "free trade" treaty. Sure we took a blow too. The neighbourhood I went thru dramatic changes. But we recovered. Canada and Montréal diversified their economy. We're now leader in optics electronics, AI developpement and so on. Other regions developed wind power technology. That's where the American economy failed. Sorry but shoes won't be made here or by you. Coal is in the past. Deal with it. Closing your border is something the communist tried and it didn't worked too well.

[@steveguild871]

Dr. Do-nothing. The communists closed their borders to keep people from escaping.

[@Quarter_Turn]

I’ve been watching a bunch of videos about NAFTA trying to understand it. This is the one that really helped. Thanks.

[@everpresent2443]

Glad to see someone doing research.

[@adminuser5810]

what this video didn't said in the corn example is that the US corn is subsidize and that kind of unfairness in the fields killed thousands of rural jobs and that's why they ended up in usa working as illegals.

[@America-First2024]

Right just like Cuba in the late 70’s.

[@anthonygonzalez9422]

Alchemica Blackwood citation needed buddy. Refill your prescription.

[@johnDoe-yt4bx]

@Alchemica Blackwood the fact most Americans have this exact mentality when it comes to the topic of latin american immigration says a lot.

[@ShortsHound]

Last I heard, NAFTA also included Canada ... and here, Avocados became more expensive ... because they were shipped though US distribution !

[@lynngraham2934]

They were about 4 for a dollar in the 1990's here, now they cost about 78 cent for one here,

[@ShortsHound]

They are about $1.50 each here or for a deal you can get 5 for $4.50 ... and yeah... in the 90's they were about .25 ea.

[@david0aloha]

Here in Alberta they're nearly $2.

[@Hakltz]

The US distribution system is the most efficient in the world. BY FAR. That anyone in any country can tell you.

[@mrbrainbob5320]

William Baksa maybe because Canada bought American avocados now it’s Mexican avocados.

[@carriebtc]

A few weeks ago, after a series of Trump's rants against Mexico's supposed 'unfair' trade deal, a group of friends and I decided to see if it was true. We took the task of counting the number of labels and tags with the words 'Made in Mexico' or 'Product of Mexico' in some of the most popular retail stores of NYC. A friend chose Bloomingdales, another one 99c Stores, another one Trader Joe's & WholeFoods and I picked up Macy's. Each about 200 labels per store. After 3 days of scouting in our stores for their labels and tags, we were shocked to see that about 75% of the countries of origin of most clothing, kitchenware, appliances, home decor, cosmetics, and toys were MADE IN CHINA. The following 10% 'Made in the US'. Another 10% more almost equally divided between Taiwan, Thailand, Malaysia, Honduras, El Salvador, Turkey, and Vietnam. The remainders 5%, between Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh, in that order. But the 'Made in Mexico' label was almost nonexistent in most Department Stores. Of about 1000 labels, we only found 3 labels in Macy's, 2 in Bloomingdale's, none in the 99c Stores and about 7 in Trader Joe's and 11 in Whole-Foods (these last two being from Avocadoes and other 'specialty' products -Mexican Avocados, Mexican Beers, Mexican Chillies, etc-). After watching this video I ask: WHERE ARE THOSE 'MEXICAN' PRODUCTS IN THE US part of the 'UNFAIR TRADE' ranted by TRUMP (and FOX, CNBC, etc)? If you have nothing to do, want to have some 'fun' and don't like to be manipulated by the media and your president, I invite you to do your own research. It can shed a great deal of real truth about which country we Americans depend on: CHINA. Ask yourself WHY TRUMP and his PANDERING MEDIA doesn't talk about that? You know why? BECAUSE THEY OWN US. The US Government has a 1.17 TRILLION DOLLARS DEBT to CHINA (as of Jan 2018. 19% of the total US debt to Foreign Countries). Debt that increases every year, every month and every day, since our Government continues borrowing money from the Chinese and only pays interests on the money. See why Mexico is USED as a DISTRACTION to cover up the REAL TRUTH...?! Cheers people. (by the way, the National Debt is of 21 TRILLION DOLLARS, mostly again to, guess who, CHINA).

[@Donthaveacowbra]

carriebtc that comes as a lack of understanding of government debt... The vast majority of which isn't held by China, its held by social security. Basically the money you pay into social security is used for future expenses and such it is ingested. A secure investment is treasurey bonds. Now whilst China does hold American debt, the reverse is also true. The reason why you don't hear about China is because they don't have anything to gain. No one likes cheap Chinese rip offs, which is why you don't have a free trade deal, and is why no one bitches about it. Nafta is one that some people hated so they used that anger, whether for good or bad.

[@joeh9814]

So Mexico already paid for the wall

[@phoenix5054]

carriebtc You deserve a like just for doing this.

[@ehex3]

Good post

[@luckymig1603]

There are not many Mexican products... few makes of cars, some produce, but name something that comes from Mexico- and the Chinese can make it cheaper, Korean and Japanese manufacturers can make it better. American industry is lacking from lack of investment domestically, and instead of Wall Street and the US government fixing the problem, they blame Mexico, because it has no consequences.

[@ApplePotato]

The problem is NAFTA created a lot high tech high paying jobs and a booming farm industry. Mean while low paying manufacturing jobs disappeared from the US. And it is these people that were impacted the most. To be honest even if we threw away nafta it won’t change a thing, besides higher prices. Young Americans just doesn’t want to work in factories or mining. Our culture just don’t values trades or factory workers as much as we use to.

[@vicenteacuna6747]

Most shoes don't come from Mexico they come from China,or Asia, Mexican shoes go to Europe, where consumers prefer quality over price, cars do come from Mexico because cost every to manufacture at the same price whatsoever in the whole world, that is so corporations can keep more money their pockets, but nothing new this is being done since 1960, maybe you just didn't know

[@brentonsiddons2406]

they are assembled in Mexico, the parts are all manufactured in the USA and Canada

[@vicenteacuna6747]

Brenton Siddons or China, it's all about making the most money at the least expense

[@America-First2024]

Consumer price didn’t go down for shoes. The profit margin went up for manufacturers!

[@stephen7938]

Resume: Avacado Expert

[@WestCoastR1der]

I was expecting the most biased video ever in favor of NAFTA but I gotta say I'm really pleased by what I saw. Good job

[@grumpyyellowfang3344]

It's so hard to find a political cooperation that isn't left

[@JamesMaximum]

@@grumpyyellowfang3344 You realize that leftists hate free trade right?

[@510tuber]

@@grumpyyellowfang3344 American liberal isn't leftist. And this video left out the imperial aspects lol. But by making the statement you did, I'm assuming you don't actually know much about history or politics.

[@grumpyyellowfang3344]

@@510tuber Left is a common term that has different meanings. The word left can mean different things in different contexts. In the english language you do not have to specific what specific meaning you are using because it can be implied based on context. In the United States (A country in north America), when talking about politics it is common to prefer to things left of the accepted political ideas as the left. It is a relative measurement not an absolute measurement.

[@lori5455]

With no mention of Canada in this report, it can hardly show the true picture.NAFTA is so much more than Mexican supply of fresh produce to U.S. Not really enough info to tell the real story on this complicated agreement. All three trading partners will feel the impact if NAFTA is cancelled. U.S. cars for instance will skyrocket cause most of THAT steel comes from Canada which has just been slammed with huge tariffs.

[@EliasBac]

Canada doesn't even have 40 Million inhabitants.The reason why Canada imposes some kind of tariffs on some US goods (Like dairies for example), is because Canadian companies would stand no chance against American companies with their massive gov. subsidies. Economically, Canada is like a fly compared to the US, How threatening do you think it can possibly be ? Educate yourself and stop blindly hating.

[@bleachorange]

You can't advocate for tariffs in one direction and not the other and expect people to seriously listen to you. The core issue with trade and tariffs is about fair competition. The reason the US uses tariffs is the same reason Canada does. To protect an economy against unfair trade practices. Canada does some of this as well as the US. The thing is, most of the United States' trade partners have actually been much more protectionist than they have over the last few decades, especially in realms the US competes well in such as food produce. You should really educate yourself more as well. Everyone can benefit from striving to improve their knowledge as much as they can.

[@SeanP7195]

From one oversimplification to another

[@SeanP7195]

So, the US should lose farms because you have less people. You don't have to buy anything, you don't have to sell anything. Problem is, when you sell you want it free of tariffs, but when you buy you say, well, we can't compete, thats a trade imbalance. And btw, that "fly" lives very good off its trade with the US.

[@SeanP7195]

And for the millionth time, the farm subsides of the US are a response to US farms being decimated by unfair trade. Its a tax paid from the America worker to keep farms afloat. Without the tariffs, it wouldn't exist.

[@chrispswann6825]

You guys forgot to mention the role that automation plays in why a lot of Americans lost their factory jobs

[@williamshaw2417]

Yes, It should have mentioned automation, but automation isn't what killed the American shoe manufactures. It was simply the use of CHEAP LABOR in Mexico. The whole reason for the wealthy in the US and Mexico to push and support NAFTA was to force the lowering of wages. NO TRADE AGREEMENT today should be based on lower wages as a country's competitive advantage.

[@RiotHouseLP]

You mean those jobs that are returning to the US, because most factory jobs are only partially automated with human labor doing the fine and tactile jobs. Most manufacturing that left the US, left because of piss poor trade deals to 3rd world countries so they could take advantage of slave like labor conditions and avoid regulations in the US.

[@fightfannerd2078]

@@RiotHouseLP ikr

[@moctezumaaleg2008]

@@williamshaw2417 ??? how so shoe manufactures and textiles in Mexico where killed because of imports from U.S.A , USA lost those to Asia not Mexico

[@beyondblesscrissy4063]

Thanks for avocado, Mexico. 🇺🇸 🇲🇽

[@Donthaveacowbra]

Free trade is a win win deal. Yes you will have focused changes in industries, but those industries were only successful because of lack of competition. Those shoe makers? Maybe they don't compete on price? But may they improve their quality. We can't expect high wage low skill jobs in a rich nation. Those voters who want to bring back manufacturing seem to not understand that brining it back brings you back. It's akin to the government stepping in to save tulle fledgling typewriter business. It's moronic.

[@Hakltz]

B C not true. As the video points out, if you are in the city, you are not as badly affected. If your factory closes down there’s bus driving, becoming an Uber driver etc .... if you live in small town USA?? Start packing and move to the city...???

[@SuperClearwood]

if you live in a small town you have to reinvent yourself. If you can't compete with cheap Mexican shoes you have to do something differently.

[@KSUser-0301]

Not true just look at Haiti

[@Mk_transmissions]

Shoes are made in china wtf

[@YPO6]

And Taiwan

[@lynngraham2934]

Cheaper and junkier, U S shoes will last at least 5 times longer.

[@YPO6]

Feleena Morihana somebody who is not like Imelda Marcos

[@nujackswing6370]

Walmart is China. To avoid Tariffs, some Samsung pros are made in Taiwan. Imelda Remedios Trinidad Romuaidez Marcos is 88 years old.. Is she still in RPI Congress..??? Termites ate up 3,000 pairs of her Shoes... Marcos offered PI, 13 Billion to allow him back... How much more did he have..?? Love Self, Peace...!!!

[@YPO6]

Didn't know Imelda is still alive, I wonder what she is collecting now?

[@pedrop2382]

you guys oversimplified a really complex issue and failed

[@glennv3176]

Video be like : This deal give us ghost ghost towns, rising unemployment and some green vegetable nobody really likes.

[@SolaceAndBane]

*fruit, not vegetable

[@Kunx990]

EVERYONE likes*

[@wereNeverToBeSeenAgain]

Maybe the only thing that is oversimplified is your brain. Just saying...

[@koibutsu]

Who would understand the complex problem with all products tied into it? Noone unless you were economicist

[@Gregverse]

Who's here because their teacher told them to watch a video ✌🏻👁👄👁✌🏻

[@totallypixel3056]

*Hello, there*

[@polaris7346]

hey... hehe

[@jaredb2377]

Canada has a lot of wood. US adds tariffs and claim we are dumping. US decides to protect steel industry and adds more tariffs to Canada. But that is not enough, US produces more dairy than it needs, so now it wants to force it down Canadian throats. (Essentially American taxes will be used so that Canadians can get cheaper cheese.) Tell you what, you want us to buy more dairy, then you can buy our wood.

[@jthyatt]

This video is stupid. Although it is indeed accurate, it tries to explain NAFTA around a few industries. US consumers have indeed benefited from Mexican agricultural imports as well as have Mexican consumers from American Midwestern staples. But to conclude that the agreement has had winners and losers in just these few industries in the United States is child's play. It's far more complicated that that. And as the video correctly points out, without NAFTA most of these manufacturing jobs would have gone to to Asia anyway. We need to have a serios conversation in the United States in regards to whether we will be a manufacturing economy or a service based economy with high tech manufacturing jobs as well. Such a conversation will not take place if we have people like Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders in the center of our national politics.

[@Ivan-jj3lh]

That's true Nafta keeps the wealth in the americas.

[@bendersenate8360]

We are given examples of two extremes and are left to determine the meaning. just like drumpf and burnie!

[@SergioSanchez-og7ms]

John Hyatt Avocados are very expensive in Mexico for Mexican salaries,

[@tavogoodgood]

Very true. I think Trumps vision of a middle class job is not focused on the future. This is a huge opportunity to make Noth America gain ground and be leaders in the world economy. Greetin from Mexico.

[@kerresft8745]

Do you know what the promises nafta made

[@Pablo-bo2ru]

guys, this is just a video to gain a basic understanding, and frankly I think they did a good job at it. I was reading my newspaper and I was confused, because I was not familiar with nafta, but now I have a basic understanding of what it is and what it did, and why there is re negotiations right now between US and Mexico

[@36742650885]

There was a shoe factory in my town before NAFTA. There was also an air compressor factory, that factory is in Mexico now. I had a career in the Drywall Trade for 30 years, that’s now gone after being overrun by immigrant labor. The whole industry is immigrant dependent now as well as roofers, brick layers, it’s sad, homes used to be built by family owned craftsmen. Who took pride in the homes they built. But over they’re built by profit driven corporations who don’t give 2 shits about anything other than making more profit at whatever cost

[@marymeyer9299]

Look who hired non-citizen workers?.....American Business Owners, and affluent people who hire folks to clean, yard, housework.. And no enforcement of hiring non-citizens. Instead: build ecosystem and watershed destroying hideous wall. Symbolic total waste. We can take photos of beetles crossing the border from space.

[@Eclipse-2024gofit]

Dell computers moved to Mexico for the Lowest labor, 4 dollars a day for 12 hrs of work for the Mexican people. That’s when quality of the product fell. Guess what if you build most of the computer in Mexico and then ship to USA for the final test and software now it was build in USA. Now Mexican meat markets can buy food from Mexico and sell it here making a profit since the product is picked in Mexico for $1 per 500lbs. for workers. the USA is on the death slide now

[@charlieeagler7639]

You guys tried to explain it very simple, but it is not that simple. It is true that every single deal has pros and cons. With NAFTA, Americans have access to fresher and cheaper vegetables all year around and it is not all bad for the USA as you guys have been told. Since you guys are using avocados I want to bring up a couple of things that you didnt mentioned. As today the avocado price in Mexico is 66 pesos per kg...which is 3.3383 dllrs per kg, every kilogramo is 2.20462 pounds which give you the price per pound 1.5142 per pound .... every pound might be about 2 avocados....lets say that a pound of avocados at a store might be about 3.00 dlls. Mexicans producers have an income per pound of 1.5 before freight. produce and administrative costs.... Americans traders have a gross income of 3.00 minus the cost of 1.50 = 1.50 before some freight and administrative costs (with no produce cost).... My point.... American traders get to keep their profit share that is a bit bigger then what mexican producers get, plus American freight companies and traders employee people to handle the product. Another thing... since NAFTA started, the american investment grow in Mexico, yeah they have created jobs in almost all type of industries (YEAH Cheap labor), but Mexico doesnt keep all their profit, since they are american companies, all their profit after taxes, comes back to the USA in a way or another. Honestly you guys think the USA had the worst part, but I can assure that there is another side of the story. When NAFTA began, it totally killed the base of the rural mexican economy....yeah USA's CORN hit was too hard the base of Mexico's economy, mexican corn producers could not compete with the american ones. That alone created a huge emigration wave to the USA. It is true that so many companies are opened for bussines in Mexico (Almost every big chain company) and yeah, they created job, but not for the agriculture kind of town, many of that people just couldnt adjust to the change..... Before NAFTA, Mexico was a pretty safe place to live at....after NAFTA and its effects it became a different Mexico.... To me, we were better before....at least the common people were better....Maybe it was a good change for the richer, but it was not the same for most of the rest..... My point.... NAFTA had damaged Mexico as well....so I would not care if they totally cancel it....

[@boostedmaniac]

It’s not so much Trump is against free trade. It’s that he wants Mexico and Canada to further open up their market and reduce their tariffs so that there is a smaller or no trade deficit. He’s imposing tariffs similar to the tariffs they apply to our goods. Once they are willing to lower theirs, Trump will reduce the US tariffs.

[@maf98m]

What they don't talk about in the video is what happened to the people that lost their jobs. Did they remain permanently unemployed? More than likely, they got another job. They may have had to move to get another job, but they got another job. In fact, most of the time, they got higher-paying jobs.

[@saydtg78ashd]

The foundation of NAFTA has led to the loss of massive jobs is completely normal in the world of the market. The market creates winners and losers in short term, in this case, is the USA and Mexico. Whoever have cheaper labor cost, higher quality products and lower prices will win the market and dominate its aspect. But in long term, everyone will get benefited. The competition of 2 markets can lower the price and create more quality productions. The USA can lose the jobs of making shoes, but they can specialize in planting corns and the same thing to Mexico buy focus on producing avocados. In short terms, there may be losses, like job losses for American shoemakers and Mexico corns farmers, but in long term, the country can increase trading their focus production, residents from both sides will all be benefited by the lower price and higher quality of the products, including the people who lost their jobs I mentioned. So in short term, people can lose jobs, but in long term, it is a win win for everyone.

[@joannmelanson]

This video does not say it properly . New England had lots of factories and a lot closed up and went to Southern States as the labor was cheaper. Each state makes it's own miminum wage as it does it taxes. What about all those jobs that were lost to southern states.

[@jitterball]

I've never, ever had Mexican shoes. I've had %99.9999 made in China! And no one likes to talk about that, yet Trump is being demonized for for taking stance on this issue.

[@user-cris.H]

everything is made in china

[@juanlambda27]

How about you explain the entire results of NAFTA, not just the US side. Many Mexicans also lost their jobs. NAFTA didn't benefit anyone except large corporations in all 3 countries. NAFTA isn't about borders, it was about making the rich richer, as always.

[@SMracingchannel]

It’ll trickle down

[@kaibilbalam-gonzalez9584]

But...but if it weren't for Nafta we wouldn't have cool 'Avocados From Mexico' SuperBowl commercials. So it's gotta be worth it.

[@carlos23mex]

Explanation: FAILED.

[@amobymonkey]

Spelling: FAILED.

[@officialspock]

Carl Mag you failed

[@tencruisezoreal8538]

This is not about explanation. This is about interrogation back to you.And you failed to answer.

[@mtolives]

It's not just you empbac. I scrutinized it for over 30 seconds and thought.....hmmmpf??

[@wereNeverToBeSeenAgain]

No, your brain FAILED. As always.

[@Game7King]

You know its bad when Trump, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie agree on something

[@jamesharns672]

I'm really glad we have more foods and drinks from other countries. Too bad I can't afford food anymore because I've been laid off from my factory job, I no longer have health insurance and my kids can't go to college. But hey we have 6 more pounds of AVACADOS...

[@colinschmitt6571]

So you want Americans to be taxed because your company sucks? Ok

[@nedwalport4426]

Not everyone was in love with NAFTA. As Ross Perot said during his presidential campaign, "there will be a great sucking sound as jobs fly south of the border," and he was right. Let's hope the American public has learned its lesson about the true consequences of Globalism.

[@Booze129]

God bless the avocado

[@bradowen8862]

that's globalization, it also happens in the US having trade with China. Some Americans lose their jobs but in return, more stuff are a lot cheaper for American consumers.

[@killwize]

I hate the things in NAFTA that have less to do with free trade and more to do with allowing cooperations *the right to sue North American countries directly!* (As it curently is under NAFTA, chapter 11.) I'm a proud United Statesian and a proud North American and I like the idea of keeping trade withing North America. We should allow greater trade within the American continent but also develop polices that makes it easer for workers to follow the jobs when they move. A supranational confederacy with the Mexican United States would be my pipe dream solution. (But NEVER an EU style union! We would have to insure that Mexico and the United States can still protect their sovereignty and national identity.)

[@protekdefense]

Not just some, but many people lost their jobs in the U.S.! Another great Clinton legacy!

[@cmnweb]

Talk about the Milk producers or corn producers in Us that his main buyer is Mexico and how this industries in Mexico collapse, here in Mexico back in 1994 the fear was can Mexican industries compete with the big industries of Us?..nope they disapear, just small gruop of companies like Bimbo that is the biggest bakery in the world take advantage of TLC (Nafta)..a lot of Mexican companies has gone, Mexico has the worst part of this deal and a i think Nafta need to end.

[@brandonh2123]

I live in Lumberton NC. We used to be known for our converse shoe factory. It shut down after nafta. Hundreds lost their jobs and the town never recovered we also lost a Pepsi factory. Today Lumberton is known for the lowest median income per household in the us because the only jobs left pay 7.25 minimum wage or slightly above. I have never eaten an avocado. What would you rather have a vegetable that makes another country money or a job that pays you a living wage?

[@jessechow5546]

Blame it on the hipsters and the vegans

[@fuckfannyfiddlefart]

It is no small irony that vegans get the blame for eating the Avocados, given the few vegans and massive consumption of Avocados they must thing that Vegans eat a diet of only Avocados and still manage to consume a hundred times more than they could possibly eat! Actually Avocados are one of the few plant sources of Saturated fat and are often eschewed by healthy vegans and it is the fat addicted animal eater that are feasting on them.

[@flamingruby5052]

We need both Canada & Mexico for war, food, car companies, taxes, & tuition fees. I'm Mexican-American & NAFTA is good, but it's familiarity that is causing NAFTA to be weak. Who agrees?

[@leong0091]

Jobs and dignity and technology shift over avocado, I rather eat less avocado

[@sagadegeminis9722]

Avocados is just an example. You will get more expensive cars, trucks and TVs. And Mexico will get more expensive integrated circuits, gas and computer accesories. But nowadays i prefer buy circuits to China. www.cmsadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ImportsExports.png

[@terrancethomas9792]

Factory jobs were vital to the South. Those jobs really lifted small southern towns. My town of 8,000 is SC had an extra grocery store. A new shopping center came to town. Car dealerships came in. Those jobs didn’t all go to Mexico. Two years after NAFTA, there were made in Bangladesh shirts. It crushed the economy of the small towns. 2,000 people left my town. I drive through and notice one new business but two left. In South Carolina, it’s horrible. These post-NAFTA towns are crime-ridden. Ross Perot who ran for president against Clinton, said they’re be a large “sucking sound” of jobs leaving. He wasn’t joking.

[@meh4770]

Who is your audience for this video? The simplification of the issues suggests you're presenting the arguments to a grade 4 student.

[@steveguild871]

And that is why you are here.

[@CC-sz9ze]

Which makes great propaganda.

[@brickstrike4926]

Okkkk but at the same time the US workforce is primarily Service based anyways because we live in a post-industrial nation. Some people lost their jobs, but we aren't the manufacturering super power we once were, simply because we don't want those jobs anymore. People want to get higher education and get better paying jobs using their brain to work rather than their body. That's the whole thing with cheap labor; we don't want to work for cheap, but Mexicans do. I feel like this video did an injustice in trying to explain the nuances NAFTA set out.

[@AlexToussiehChannel]

*Why do you only care if Southerners in the USA lost their jobs and don't talk about Mexicans as human beings too who made jobs and who also deserve to live? By the way, they are making much less money than those very same Southerners and now if you destroy NAFTA you want to take their jobs??? Just because they're Mexican? Why are you so nation centered? Is all you know about humanity the USA???*

[@steveguild871]

Oh, fuck. We got an open borders, globalist here. How much does Soros pay you to post comments to vidoes?

[@steveguild871]

taino20 - can you read English? I said that Alex is an open borders advocate. We don't have open borders at the moment during the present administration. We recently had open borders (essentially) under the prior administration. The border patrol and ICE are finally allowed to do their job.

[@Misendei]

what are you talking about dude we dont need NAFTA mexico would do so much better without it, they NEED OUR natural resources and if canada doesnt wanna deal with them then we should get with Canada. our stupid ass president agreed to trumps bullshit and that contract will last 16 yrs. mexico its like we have all the potential and tools, but wtf men. shitty ass goverment so stupid. we DO NOT benefit at all from NAFTA why the fuck we gotta need to send our food over there, we could gain from it here, its so much more expensive now. fuck if they dont care about mexico We need to care about Us and give two shits cus they obviously are fucking all reptitlians and have no human feelings lol dont ever bother asking an american why they dont care about other countries lol tf. theyre not humans

[@jwhite1337]

Nafta has made trade more free but is still a long way from being free trade. All the countries involved are guilty of trying to coerce the rules in the their favor.

[@steveguild871]

Exactly. There is little free trade going on with NAFTA. There are tariffs, non-monetary barriers and subsidies everywhere you look.

[@bob2901]

now for some education for the uneducated as well as what this left out. jobs (we'll use the shoes for example) were not solely lost to closing shoe stores. if you take the time to dig you will find automation to be the big job killer. this has always been a problem but republican terrorist party tax cuts makes it even more cost effected for business to automate. take a look at st. Reagan era , bush ear and trumpf tax cut. what has happen ? the business get big wind fall money from tax cuts which in turn the automate just a little more. for face it the company profits go up, their no employees to worry with, the machine never takes a sick day and its in the company power to work these machine 24/7 with out overtime pay, of course they wouldn't do that for if they did they could cut prices near in half which wouldn't set well with their greedy natures. so if you're going to spin a yarn tell all the facts.

[@steveguild871]

First, learn how to type English. You will look just slightly smarter. Second, you blame automation on tax cuts? Are you a moron? It's idiots like you pushing a nationwide $15/hour minimum wage that is pushing companies to automate further.

[@WayneDome-dm8iu]

NAFTA needs to be Equal to all parties involved. The Real Issue is Many Rich Americans Living in California An New York Pushed for NAFTA with Disregard out the outcome to other Americans. This was based on the Fact That they Knew Middle-class Americans could not Fight Back for a more equal deal, the Deal was lopsided from day one. That All Changes with Trump.

[@garettjames6349]

Trying to make it look 50/50? Lol. Do some basic research, trade is a massive positive.

[@JDC850]

Garett James exactly, it is a positive thing to do

[@pablo750]

Garett James , exactly many items manufactured in Mexico get branded in USA and exports all around the world, USA gets more of the profits

[@deepgee9214]

pavo750 n USA makes money ? Think about people who lose their job. So you are saying it's good deal to take the job from American people and makes it profitable for some number of companies who produce things in other countries and sell those items to jobless Americans and overseas. Some big companies make money by branding the products that are produced in other countries does not mean that USA makes money because those companies are not owned by government. It's stupidest thing to take the job from people and force them to live on welfare. The government has to fund the welfare not those companies who make profit out of this NAFTA deal.

[@izdatsumcp]

@@deepgee9214 People aren't doing the jobs they did 100 years ago. Even without NAFTA, a lot of these jobs will go due to automation. What's the difference?

[@emiliodiego3857]

​@@izdatsumcp what about Germany and Japan who kept their manufacturing industry so they are not in trade deficit.Automation is not as strong as you ​think. In​ fact most of the lost US jobs went to China

[@alanmacification]

The purpose of NAFTA was to secure Canadian strategic natural resources for US use. The idea is that American companies could own 100% of a Canadian resource company ( prior to NAFTA they could only have 49% ) ship those resources to American owed plants in Mexico, then ship the finished goods to American markets with no trade barriers. What Americans don't like about NAFTA is that it gives the same rights to Canadian and Mexican companies.

[@UsserError]

I don’t like avocados, but, I’d love to have our jobs back.

[@3rdwrldkid]

how many jobs did you loose?

[@fuckfannyfiddlefart]

The problem isn't loosing jobs, it's that they didn't make provision for creating new ones when they did the deal.

[@fuckfannyfiddlefart]

The peak of industry in WWII was obvious as production ramped up for the war, this is the great irony, if the government had a socialist agenda and used that productive capacity to fight the war for UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, INFRASTRUCTURE, GUARANTEED WORK and RETRAINING as a minimum all that productivity could return, instead we have kids working for half minimum wage selling crack on the street, people doing meaningless work that helps nobody and all to make the Capitalists wheels continue to turn to our doom.

[@Mk_transmissions]

Then go fucken work you shitbag troll wannabe trump supporter pea sized brain. They are hiring in the fields and in the warehouses everywhere... Go work there or tell your buddies who sit in the side of the street begging for money to work. Lmao what a bunch of maggots...

[@fuckfannyfiddlefart]

Socialism doesn't work? really!! In the UK where Marx worked we had UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE, Good Social Security, Union jobs that had benefits and a living wage and a government that could stand up to Capitalists (for a while until America attacked our economic and social policies) What do you have? how much tax do you pay for the Military-Industrial Complex that supports international aggression that motivates people to kill Americans, how much do you spend on putting poor people, disproportionately black into prison, Capitalists have even seized your government with Trump and his Oligarchy of supporters from the Koch Cabal to Putin, you bring shame on yourself with such a stupid comment Donald Trump, good name by the way, an idiot with another idiots name!

[@DPEART6475]

The unions didn't pass NAFTA or any of the other free trade agreements. The unions didn't give corporations incentives to move their means of production overseas. That was our government, our politicians that did that at the urging of corporate donors. Business interests want you to believe the falsehood that they can't operate in the U.S. if they have to pay a fair wage. America can have profitable companies and good jobs with a combination of fair trade laws and unions.

[@brousi]

yeah guise i think it was worth it.

[@Shirley-lock]

People were not excited about it. Corporations were excited about it. I do not even want to finish watching this.

[@ellarry5519]

The problem wasn't NAFTA, the problem was the " UNION'S "

[@cflo1386]

El LARRY Thank you

[@stubkar]

When the problem was with fine print and resulting trade deficits, it needed to get recalibrated. Mexico has also had stagnate economic growth, this wasn't foreseen at the time. We expected Mexico to buy more American products by now. Hasn't met expectations.

[@borpie]

I love avocados. so yes this tradeoff is worth it hahah

[@heraldomedrano6993]

Mousey Wowsey the are grown in Michoacan.

[@rustyshackelford6834]

They can also be grown in California.

[@jackflynn23]

So you would eat food from "liberal California"?

[@LegoSwordViedos]

Green house.

[@chanbokplayers9221]

Don't you USA people know than in Mexico and Latin America we eat a lot of your export products, snacks, drinks no mention fast food restaurant with all import menus for the USA that requires the ingredients most of it from the USA and we don't bitch about. Please People from USA try to understand that your president show no proof or facts of the trade war he is trying to start with your closest trade partners.

[@Sergio-yi8ro]

Missed to say that Mexican labor became so great that huge companies other than US companies simply want to install more and more plants there.

[@TruztNoI]

Nafta need to be more that eh...

[@ampclan4290]

Viewing this video changed my perspective of NAFTA by showing me the NAFTA was not all good. Also everything isn't all good. About it.

[@miyo7376]

Copying vox much?

[@dropmelon]

MiYo Vox is not one of the first channels to use the format.

[@neonlost]

I think BuzzFeed did this style first and it's cancer.

[@MrTheMiguelox]

I watched the entire video and just realized now it wasn't vox

[@_anthonyr]

I watched this video in my Grade 12 laws class back in 2018. Now it’s 2021 and I only came back to watch this video because I’m eating avocados lol.

[@steveguild871]

This video is definitely not balanced. They emphasize the benefits of avocados and minimize the # of jobs lost. The rise in consumption of avocados had mostly to do with the information of their benefit to health. W/o NAFTA, the avocado consumption would still have increased substantially.

[@francoischarbonneau9447]

If any Canadians are here, you will remember when the FTA was signed our dollar was somewhere around 0.62 cent US. Then all of a sudden we were hit with high interest rates, credit cards went to 24%, personal bank loans were 12-15% mortgage at 8%, our labour was $7.50 Can. while in the US was $5.50 US. Once the Bank of Canada interest rate went through the roof by Mulroney's finance minister Wilson and Bank of Canada's Crow, I think thats his name, our dollar went to $0.96 US and companies and businesses left Canada in droves for the US. Our countries had a very similar economy and lifestyle, why the US got Mexico involve in this free trade is beyond me?? Oh! almost forgot, it took Canada/US a year an a half to work out the agreement while it took only 6 months for Mexico, go figure??

[@oscarcrespo3313]

I think It's also important to mention that there a lot of the industries in Mexico that wen't broke after Nafta, since they couldn't compete with the capital and power of the US products, today the marked is full of American products.

[@mauriciocuatrobolas9306]

People want cheap stuff. But the real price is your job , because factories moves away to use near slave workers.

[@protekdefense]

Right! NAFTA Good for Mexico but bad for the U.S.! Ross Perot said it best “ when NAFTA gets signed, you will hear a big sucking noise of jobs moving from the U.S.”!

[@galiabm45]

Are you kidding?! How is it GOOD that avocado prices have skyrocketed in Mexico and corn, the most important native crop to Mexico, comes from the US? Avocados and corn, both native to the Mexicas and Aztecs, are imperative to Mexican cuisine. We have cultivated these two for centuries and because of NAFTA they have completely degraded in quality and become unaffordable because of f*ing avocado toast and mass monoculture. Our tortillas taste bad now, which is literally so sad considering their cultural importance in Mexico.

[@shawntravelstheworld911]

Nothing got cheaper, the profit margins just got bigger for corporations.

[@YehiaYMS]

As an economist I can tell you that this video does not draw a bigger picture of trade really works. For example, clothing is 80% cheaper now than pre NAFTA. Hence, people are richer and have more money to spend on other goods, which creates a lot of jobs as well.

[@jbflooring2616]

They lost their jobs not thanks to the greedy American manufacturers that moved their shops to Mexico to increase their profits and not their product price, that guy is a terrible economist.

[@RiotHouseLP]

NAFTA no longer exists. These agreements are not written in stone. Not sure why so many people wanted to conserve such a disaster of a trade deal. Long live the new USMCA and all of its newer, fairer, more even, more diverse, more inclusive, more economically correct trade practices.

[@Nevermore941012]

What people don’t seem to understand is that most of the Jonás lost were due to technological advancements, and we don’t wanna stop technology

[@tchevrier]

Having so many small towns dependent upon 1 industry is extremely risky. And its not just NAFTA that presents the risk, but free market competition in general. The real issue isn't addressing NAFTA but rather addressing single industry towns. NAFTA helped keep inflation and subsequently interest rates at all-time lows...

[@nononsensenorseman]

*What an amazingly oversimplified explanation of tariffs and trade under the NAFTA agreement.*

[@secondotranquilli3973]

Did you get that? Avocados were BANNED! The issue was the banning, not NAFTA. Mexico had a immense barriers for car manufacturing, that changed with NAFTA. Remove the barriers and tariffs. Selling items to Mexico is still very uneven.

[@loktom4068]

Buying made in Canada cars always cost more than we export to USA. But buying the same Made in Canada car by Canadian from USA at the lower USA retail price were forbidden even with the international exchange rates. Only the Canadian government and the tax subsidized corporations gets benefits.

[@erickrcisneros]

Trade is a highly sophisticated discussion. Just like this video illustrates trade can be a gamble. But as a nation becomes more wealthy industries shift from nation to nation, another thing people should notice as a nation becomes more wealthy birth rates drop.

[@jovanhayes1278]

great production quality, great writing

[@Josue-tr3eo]

It was worth it. Those people can get other jobs while we still enjoy cheap products.

[@martinsahagunsiles3513]

Same happened in Mexico, the Mexican agriculture is dead due to nafta and most of the Mexican migrants left the country after losing everything after nafta. Many small companies closed, they were not able to compete to us larger industries.

[@misaelcruz1663]

NAFTA is how the world supposed to work, that's the whole meaning of a free market and free trade.

[@YorickReturns]

Protectionism is glorified welfare.

[@delilahgalli4528]

Can we please make a video on the effects that Mexico suffered too?? Need more education in Spanish for the spanish speaking community!!! Very one sided video…

[@kgraebes88]

Correct me if im wrong or dont understand this quite right, but NAFTA seemed to be put in place for specific products that america wanted, but was not good at making... so why didnt they just specify the removal of tariffs of certain products like avacados, but keep the tariffs on things like shoes, so we didnt lose all those jobs??

[@TheBestWayOne]

Can't figure it out ? simple USA First, fair trade, like minded countries of fair wages, renegotiate better trade deals, legal immigration not illegal, a wall for better protecting America's borders from illegal activity. Jobs for all American Citizens of talents and abilities not all will or want to go to college. Have a livable wage not requiring food stamps, or competing with slave wage countries that do not trade fairly. Again negotiate fair trade and labor and wage practices. Hand up with a fair wage, instead of a handout to keep people quiet and pacified with welfare, food stamps, and earned income. This gets many companies off the hook (earned income) from paying a decent wage (in a sense corporate welfare) because if you make under a certain amount you then get a government bonus check (earned income) getting the companies off the hook from paying a fair wage and putting America more in debt. Why don't you hear about this from the media and many politicians on all sides ?

[@youcanthandletruth7340]

WHAT ABOUT PRICE GOUGING BY THESE INDUSTRIES INCLUDING THE GROCERY CHAIN STORES? AVACADOS IN PARTICULAR ARE WAY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN JUSTIFIABLE BY ANY MEASURE !

[@lynngraham2934]

YouCant HandleTruth.. Remember a few years back when our govt, doctors, etc. said that we needed at least 6 veggies and fruits (if not more) a day? All of the prices on these products have doubled. What a friggin racket!

[@idahobeef]

it wasnt just the south, and it WASNT just a small number of people....tens of millions lost their jobs all over, especially in the Midwest. Denver alone lost huge tire factories and the Samsonite factory, gutting the city for more than 2 decades.

[@gjinkalla7121]

NAFTA's benefits will show on the long term when Mexico's price levels rise close to US. Judging now is pointless, it was always expected that some industries would be hit.

[@marianafernandezdelcastill4673]

This doesn't even talk about the impact of NAFTA in immigration...

[@JohnSmith-ep4ui]

Did not safe any money. The last 5 leaders of Mexico take all the money and leave the workers more then poor. That is why if they come north they send all the money back. Trump talked about it a few times. He needs to hammer that home if the leaders are going to keep all the money give us the deal or give your workers the money. If they give the workers the money they will not have to come north of work.

[@madworld6801]

As a global world we are in twine with one another and the governments need to find a balance for everyone

[@jeanieallen8211]

You can't compare the avocados from Mexico to those grown in the wrong country that's a whole different taste I refuse to eat Mexican avocados

[@lunatik9696]

Adidas is using 3D printers to make shoes as a monolithic (one piece) item. Some 3D printer makers are using the same 3D printers to make more 3D printers. Technology is always changing, and guess what will happen when a robot can do your job?

[@seanwon3266]

On the other hand nafta also keeps Mexico away from high tech if we follow the same logic. Since US high tech is well developed and they can produced high quality low cost high tech services and Mexico lost tax as protection on their own high tech company so that they can only earn small money from shoes forever.

[@chloe-xp5bh]

Exactly what NAFTA was supposed to do take America down and help out other countries