Nahida EM vs DPS

[@alvintam8310]

I’m liking the recent direction they are taking with builds. Different stats can still contribute to damage. Its not just atk and crit values like the early days of genshin.

[@arigatameiwaku]

Meanwhile scaramouche Atk%/anemo dmg bonus/crit dmg. Even f2p without his signature weapon can easily go crit dmg hat cause he gets free crit rate when reacting with cryo.

[@Not_obligated2care]

@@arigatameiwaku which I was I like his kit, it reminds me of early Genshin lol

[@arigatameiwaku]

@@Not_obligated2care yeah all those different ass hp scaling em scaling er scaling and then boom normal type of wanted stats for a 5 star feels like a fresh air 🤤

[@overscore2097]

@@arigatameiwaku getting hp and EM artifacts is much easier than getting crit and dmg bonus ones, going back to finding that one in ten billion chance crit circlet isn’t going to be fun for me

[@DJSMedeiros]

yeah but on most teams its not Nahida who triggers the reactions so the "dps" build is slighlty better overall, specially for hyperbloom, burggeon and aggravate. So for some specific bloom teams the EM build is better

[@loushia16]

EM is better but finding a balance of both will take you farther than focusing on one. Substats are incredibly important in the end.

[@asoret]

Yes I would just do a mix with best substats, I like em em crit damage, as its the highest crit value posible. And she is that broken without weapon that I can have fun with prototype amber making her healer so she fits even more teams

[@naotonhan5253]

@@asoret you can still reach cap 1k EM with EM EM crit dmg circlet. My Nahida is using gilded dreams, sitting at 44%CR 210%CD, 600EM (without 4set passive). With full A1 buff from 1k EM Kazuha + 150 EM from gilded passive, 1k EM easily.

[@asoret]

@@naotonhan5253 Yes but I prefer deepwood to make sure everyone gets dendro res shred, and not forcing any on the team to use it, because I love playing her in all teams I get to 800 em not counting c4 I really saved a lot was worth it

[@oyaoya5200]

@@naotonhan5253 what weapon

[@naotonhan5253]

@@oyaoya5200 it's widsith

[@lonebunny537]

What i really like about Nahida is that you basically do not need to worry with her ER, her burst is so cheap (50 Energy) which is really nice

[@Comfy_Bed]

fr i was wondering why my 100%er nahida had her burst up almost at the same time as my 180%er yelan, then i went to her talents and was like "oh, oh ok that's why" 50energy on a burst so good is amazing.

[@goldyboi]

not to mention the 100% up time since its duration is longer than the cd

[@Alex_Fishman]

@@goldyboi more like 110% uptime

[@neochaositizen7490]

Ohhh this is whyy! I literally got her one day ago and she's only lvl 50 rn. I was wondering why her burst was up most of the time. This makes her even more powerful

[@monstertube6969]

And when you do any reaction with her flower it will generate particles

[@trevwright93]

One thing I enjoy about these kinds of videos is the visual representation. I can SEE the damage differences. People like Xlice (and this isn’t hate) explain things without a demonstration of what they’re talking about and the differences between things, I (personally) have a hard time visualizing things when they’re just talking about the percentage differences and so on. He says to build her EM but how my brain operates, I just took him at his word. Now I can see EM is universally stronger for her with the reactions Dendro has

[@callmemrdee]

Agreed. That’s why we have this content creators with shirk informative video. “Why not both?”

[@dominicdeguzman1712]

I agree! If I remember correctly, Xlice used to do this as well. However, for the sake of brevity and concision, he does not do it anymore.

[@callmemrdee]

@@dominicdeguzman1712 I mean sometimes I don’t want to watch 10-15 minutes video just to know something like in this video

[@dominicdeguzman1712]

@@callmemrdee Oh, I was replying to the main comment. Sorry for the confusion!

[@callmemrdee]

@@lratioyourmom5608 watching her as well

[@jfabz9654]

To summarize it: EM build better for elem reaction. Higher value output than dps

[@fomingera65]

bro

[@thecreator6065]

U can play nilou team and stack em on hydro character , and it does more dmg

[@jfabz9654]

@@thecreator6065 that's my team comp right now for spiral abyss. Kokofish, nahida, traveler, and nilou. I was shocked to have it cleared in less than 10 sec lol

[@fazk1623]

Even without reaction that buff nahida dmg her em should be at least 500 for dps or em build Also, the most important point that you can't play with nahida without reaction

[@baka3262]

@@fazk1623 Nahida is absolute trash without reactions though, I tried to build her dps, but it was pretty underhwling compared to an em build, (changed atk sand for em, and lost prayer to mappa mare) and it was considerably much better output. Ig when a dedicated dps dendro support comes out she could be viable without em, but youd still need one consistent hydro/electro applicator for her passive..

[@divinesan7786]

EM build is recommended because you will do reaction with her and that is where most of her damage comes from, compare to DPS build, you don’t run her alone. Nahida scales on EM anyways.

[@bruh-zn8ju]

forreal i read her kit when i got her and gave her 1k em off the bat with artifacts lol 😭 i spied on my friends' nahidas and they built her em-dendro-crit and i was like 'was i supposed to do that?' i didnt know how to rotate her properly on day 1 so she wasn't outputting much damage... i eventually settled for a balanced build and her em is still 780, she completes my electrocharged comp now i love her

[@divinesan7786]

@@bruh-zn8ju EM EM EM is for when you only use her solely for reaction and support. EM Dendro Crit is for Nahida main dps. Depends on what you need but sand has to be EM no matter what. Kuki Shinobu works very well with Nahida DPS

[@swapnil3990]

After a long time testing, I found this: Nahida will do more damage with ATK-DENDRO-CRIT as long as her burst is active, even in spread reaction. This damage, even of her E, will be much greater if you're using R5 widsith. Full EM build does most damage with R5 Mappa mare for F2P, however it still does less damage in every situation even if compared against Widsith's worst buff. Summary: Full DPS is better as long as you get superb substats, else go EM. My test was done with Kuki in team who already had 947 EM.

[@divinesan7786]

@@swapnil3990 I would just replace ATK to EM. One of her passive benefits from EM a lot. So not having EM either on weapon or sand is a downgrade.

[@swapnil3990]

@@divinesan7786 yeah that's fair. Tbh I don't need EM because I already have 75% crit rate on her If I switched to EM she would do less damage in average

[@Kazuha16]

Yeah, Nahida with lots of EM is more fun with just all crit. She scales highly with EM. And having her paired up with different elements like electro, Pyro, and hydro fits more better. I usually pair her up with Ei or Yae, which is electro team and I'm always shocked with her damage together with them. Soo fun!

[@MadaraUchiha18190]

Widsith is good or should I go with mappa mare or sac frag? Could you help since I don't know much about em and stuff

[@Kazuha16]

@@MadaraUchiha18190 Both are good to be honest. It actually depends on what you want her to be. But I suggest you go for more EM with Nahida. I use 2 piece set of gilded for added EM and 2 piece set of deepwood for dendro damage. Then pair her up with an electro, hydro, or Pyro characters and you'll be amazed at how much damage her EM gives your team. But of course, crit and attack are still important to her. So better choose artifacts that has those substats in it. Since it will also give a vital role with your Nahida. You can also use 4 set deepwood if you're team doesn't have a 4 set deepwood user. Or 4 set gilded for more reactions. If your artifacts for Nahida are more focused on EM, then you can use widsith as your weapon to get that added crit.

[@MadaraUchiha18190]

@@Kazuha16 thanks so much man. Appreciate you for putting so much time!

[@Kazuha16]

@@MadaraUchiha18190 anytime!

[@kaguya169]

My Nahida crit build can do much damage than EM build since her sands are EM she can pop upto 31k damage while full EM can do 27k or lesser 500 EM critbuild and 1k EM build, stats really matters

[@hopeblossoms5931]

It's about what I expected, tbh. The dps build gives her more personal damage, while the em build gives more damage to reactions/her teammates.

[@omowen6210]

Builds do similar dmg, honestly depends on subs (Em is more versatile tho)

[@lonebunny537]

EM also give the team a lot of buffs so overall is better

[@greaterlordkusanali]

If you are running hyper bloom with Raiden and Yelan/Xingqiu, DON'T build her full EM. She must be on field, and on field she gains 250 EM from Raiden (which should be built full EM 1000+). This allows you to run a dendro cup and if you have Solar Pearl, you can still use an EM circlet. Don't underestimate the dmg she can provide while generating blooms and applying dendro. My Nahida is constantly dealing 40k+ NA quickens while the blooms is around 34k and then there's the 20k+ tri karmas on top of that. It's insane! And she is still 6/8/6 and my SP is R3 rn!

[@SkillfulCurve]

I would use fischl instead of Raiden...I dunno but em Raiden seems an insult to me😂

[@johnmarkasprec7443]

Thanks. I'm using ZL, Xingqiu, Nahida, Kuki. And I I don't know if I should make Kuki on-field while Nahida's burst is on. Can you make a video, please? 🥺

[@TheSejiMan]

@@SkillfulCurve Its so good actually. Raiden can hit cores from range and with a wide AOE constantly. Fischl doesn't actually hit cores very well, and would loose MASSIVE damage from going EM as a hyperbloom proc.

[@SkillfulCurve]

@@TheSejiMan I see!!

[@croen]

THANK YOUUUU! This is the dilemma I'm currently in!

[@JacquesLuu]

It's a dilemma we all Genshin players are facing ATM. It depends on if she's the enabler or not, on field or support. Different playstyles

[@Joanna-jc8ni]

Mine is a hybrid-ish build with magic guide, em-em-crit and 730 em with 56/155 ratio and honestly i enjoy it quite a lot compared to pure dps or triple em build

[@denn2501]

Nahida directly scales with em, just like how mosy dps characters directly scales with atk, so having proper amount of em definitely help in maximizing her e damage. So i would say going for a hybrid build is the best option (500-800 em with decent crit stats). Only exception is if she's used in teams where her em matters the most, like burning/bloom where nahida is the trigger, or just as a support that applies dendro and shares em (aka low investment)

[@Kross_Vik]

Yep kinda of 2k difference depending of substats I will keep with EM cuz like that i get more crit rate so it's more consistent

[@HashMyth]

Best setup by far is +700EM, after that, focus on Crit ratio. 800EM is max all you need because of her passive that will boost EM during her burst will get it to 1000EM. She is very versatile in multiple team comps.

[@fili7476]

This is only true for on-field Nahida though. If you use her as an off-field sub-dps you can (and should) still go higher on your EM.

[@iamshadeslayer]

That's only for on-field

[@jus4455]

You need 1k em for full em buff

[@TheMirksta]

​​​​​​​@@jus4455 Depends on the team though, in hyperbloom my Kuki has ~800EM before buffs so Nahida doesn't really need to stack EM outside of personal damage. People don't appreciate how much damage Nahida's skill actually does. The times when you actually need to stack EM is if Nahida is the highest EM on the team and being used to buff, in Spread teams or Melt for example.

[@XerxesBreakSama]

Naida was designed to make badass over the top reaction based damage. EM for her is dope!!!

[@january7569]

if u want play nahida on-field, ofc dps build is better than em build but if u want play her as a powerful support, EM is outstanding

[@arminzakwan6579]

but in this video they didnt take advantage of nahida passive which give share em from her burst and crit rate, so i think em still far superior

[@january7569]

@@arminzakwan6579 i do same way, build nahida with 1000+EM, and now i can see big green damage every sec ;>

[@chaosinfernoid9008]

@@arminzakwan6579 Not only that, but E Skill has EM Scaling too (+ some Attack)

[@falco05]

actually my nahida is supposed to be Support, yet she somehow has 170 CD and 31 CR (gets increased with her 496 EM), I run her with two piece Gilded dreams, and 2 piece Deepwood Memories, and with Raiden in one team does between 1 and 20k per charged attack, if combined with her Burst.

[@kienphucnguyen2001]

I think building a good balance between dps and em is a nice idea for me.

[@sacrashin]

I'd argue that the best build for anything besides spread dps would be EM, EM, crit rate on gilded dreams. With that alone you'll have ~ 720 EM without EM weapon and 900+ EM if you use an EM weapon. The crit rate circlet offers far more crit value than you'll get through her passive and even the bonus damage from the passive isn't enough to compensate for that. Also, that's not even counting any possible EM substats on feather, flower and circlet. If you, like me, use her on teams where you have an Elegy holder she'll get another 100 EM so she'll easily be at 800+ ~ 1000 EM. Deepwood should always be used on the character that contributes the least damage to the team and if you use her with Zhongli, deepwood isn't even as necessary (technically Zhongli could hold and proc deepwood, but in most cases it's rather unreliable due to small aoe on pillars). Personally, I'm really enjoying an alteration of the "Archon team" (as the name suggest, all 4 currently available archons), where I use Nahida, Raiden, Zhongli and Yelan (instead of Venti). Not exactly f2p friendly, especially in my case with both Raiden and Nahida at c2 (the others c0 though), but for me it's really worth it. Raiden gets EM boosts from Nahida and Yelan (elegy) so you can build her like always and still get ~20k hyperblooms (with a chance to get 40k hyperblooms with Nahida c2). Additionally, both Raiden and Nahida c2 shred defense (not additive but multiplicative though, which still adds up to a total of 72% defense shred during Raiden ult), whereas Nahida's defense shred is universal as far as I know, so even Yelan's attacks benefit from it and while the initial hit of Raidens ult does not really benefit too much from aggravate, her NA and CA during burst get a decent boost. So on top of Raiden's decently boosted damage you also have decent damage contribution from both Nahida, Yelan and hyperblooms. Zhongli for multi element shred including dendro. All in all, the team damage is higher than hypercarry Raiden, thanks to Raiden still doing a lot of damage and several additional sources of damage. Not sure about Raiden National though, might be actually equally strong or maybe just slightly weaker, but at least for me way more enjoyable to play.

[@gilbertomarquezchavoya4381]

I feel so sad thinking about all the god EM + crit artifacts I burned 1 year ago, when em was "not necessary" only to get more flat defense 💀

[@myribstellmesheslying]

Nahida was just standing there while murdering a ruin guard. 😭😭😭

[@virus2339]

It depends on how you play her. If you gonna use her as an enabler, it's better to go full em. But I'm triple crowning her and using her on field a lot, so dps build it is.

[@serfeliztheng1053]

Finally a video about the difference of Em build and Dps build! Helps me a lot by deciding which artifacts that i wan to use!

[@xDORANBOLTx]

This is the type of content I like straight to the point god bless

[@EL_BANEADO-ChrystyanBee]

I have 2 build, i love build dps !! Em-Bdmg dendro-prob , the widsith r3, 58.7 prob/ 174.3dmgcrit, 566 EM 1252 atq

[@Mr_Di_ablik]

I have golden balance: ATK1250 EM750 (840 With passive sign) CR RATE 61 CR DMG 167

[@Bangdikur]

Nahida's talent is 10, 10, 10. You must be on a private server.

[@HaddBradd]

I think doing a hybrid build with Nahida makes the most sense since she only actually needs 600em which is reachable with only 2em pieces (even 1 piece assuming em weapon), Sucrose/C2 Kazuha add 200em to Nahida, then she'll be at 800 then you use Nahida burst and she'll be at 1000em; meaning you'll always have 450em buff on teammates (200 if you don't snapshot correctly or the teammate isn't active) and Nahida's passives will be capped Basically even if it's an off-field Nahida it's worth building her somewhat like an on-field with 2 (sometimes 1) em piece; I think it's definitely worth changing goblet to Dendro but circlets seem to be very similar in damage so you should do your own testing in that case (likely just the best substats wins but crit damage usually has the highest damage ceiling) Edit: Keep in mind there's other ways to boost the team's em like Dendro resonance (don't recommend in Nahida teams), instructor (only really used on Kuki, possibly em Raiden) and Nahida's signature; then for Nahida only em boosts, Gilded dreams (rarely recommended on Nahida), 2 piece em sets (highly don't recommend on Nahida)

[@flainn6464]

Just remember, Nahida talent 1 passive only give bonus EM to "active character" not for the whole team like sucrose and kazuha C2 Also all %EM increasing effect cannot snapshot, It always use base EM of said characters. So, you need 800 EM Nahida for consistent total 1000 EM

[@ars-br1ms]

you didn't show charged attacks but it's fine, just by looking at normal attacks the result is obvious, actually i really like using dps nahida, balanced em and atk with full wanderer's troupe feels really nice considering that her charges are very quick, so please, don't underestimate her dps potential

[@urbanshadowgaming3559]

in other words, the difference is so minimal that it doesn't matter anyways

[@israeloliveira2083]

The team gains lots of EM , she gains CR and ad DMG ... no way DPS build be better ✌️

[@Shadow33rg]

@@israeloliveira2083 what you mean? Should i go full Elementak mastery?

[@Shadow33rg]

@@israeloliveira2083 brooo tell me DPS or full Elemantal mastery?

[@dreplummer5118]

@@Shadow33rg ele. Just off this. Damage is min right. But the em boost she gives to teammates is waaaay better on em. So go em.

[@reyesle6709]

@@Shadow33rg if she’s triggering a crap ton of reactions, then EM may be better, as well as it offers more utility to her team in some form Maybe roll for offensive substats on her EM pieces

[@caramello7745]

What program did you use? An offline/private server genshin? Please kindly share. Triple crowned is impossible as the weekly boss just introduced last week.

[@nazwauzytkownika8217]

Thats why my Nahida have 700 em and crit stats 49,7:190 💁‍♀️

[@yubi-kun958]

It's literally such a dilemma to choose between EM and dps build for me lmao

[@aiwakun3370]

Better for em,,cuz its benefit to all char than forcing nahida to be dps.deepwood is recomend for lots enemy like abyss

[@shinymew1213]

it seems like em is better in ever situation for consistency. the dps loss on your normals isnt worth the disparity in the e dmg. u lose 7k per tik on the e when on dps and lose like 4k total dps from normals ( if we are being generous) on normals if your doing autos which you would still spread the last one in chain (the biggest dmg multiplier) in the string if u run em with spread. the buuuff from ur ult is also going to help you mroe if you run em. the crit rate is lower on em build so thats definetly a concern but over all I think em build is more beneficial for consistency. there are few comps where building crit will get you a good enough dmg increase to justify building for it. if u built crit then its not going to be awful but your missing a lot. im thinking about going crit but im not sure yet. edit: im buildign 2 sets just in case.

[@Kage_69]

the best nahida build is 4pc deepwood with 45/130-150 crit and 800-1000 em. It deals 50k+ E dmg with aggravate and her own Q buff

[@classicmemes8790]

I'm using on field dps Nahida in crit ratio 58/196 with 600 EM Maybe for Nilou I should go for full EM ?🤔

[@Diwaystation]

If you have nilou signature, 600 is enough. Nahida will get 1000 em.

[@classicmemes8790]

@@Diwaystation unfortunately I don't have Nilou's signature

[@somewhereonlyleeknow]

ik it's from genshin but does anyone know the title of the song that starts at raw damage and if it's a cover? it just really sounds so beautiful it starts at 1:34

[@Lord_Xeon]

It's one of the aranara songs and I think it's a cover

[@AgentSephiroth]

I'd like to point out this is great info, but also not the entire story. I wonder how the comparison fares with specific weapons, Gilded Dreams instead of Deepwood, and different complete team comps.

[@SaikeeKonosukeLuc]

the DOT does more dmg on EM build, notably a 30K vs 22K , however when 'applying' E.Skill or doing some normal attack( which is irrelevant) or when Tri-Karma procs then Crit values most. Crit build seems to do a minor 3K above when applying skill now you also need to fact in that EM gives more EM to your main dps as well but also gives C.Rate I'd say IT DEPENDS on 3 things : Your main dps, your playstyle and your stats , if you're using another EM max character like Kazuha. Do you have those 120-ER to keep Nahida burst up and running, can you afford to swap her to do her burst during your rotation? Does your main dps scale off EM, is he already cap at 1000, does his set focus on reaction dmg? Do you have 40-50 CV artifact, 100EM with some CV and ER on them. I'd say the sweet spot is between 700 EM , 45-50ish C.Rate and 180-200% C.dmg if your main dps is a Hu Tao with 200-300 EM and CV build. If your main dps is a Nilou , Cyno or Yae Miko, then you'd want to have 1000 EM on Nida or around to max out your main dps if your rotation is too tight, and you can't afford to swap to nahida to get those 250 EM, then focus on building her crit dmg cause then

[@Ryusakiiii]

I don't have but i already farmed everything for her after giving all estimated build should be like this: 62 cr 150 cd 700-800 em

[@kombatluffy3424]

EM, EM, Crit Rate is the way I'm going. I would've gone triple EM but I got a crazy Deepwood Crit Rate circlet that just has to be used on the Dendro archon

[@borneoenthusiast3341]

Em - dendro - Em.....here 🙋🏻 mappa mare Em 635 - 33/135 - 1.2k attack Lvl 70/80 1-8-8

[@gummiemonkey2022]

Now that my em has got over 1k I might swap out my em circlet for a crit dmg one. Might try to balence out the stats, hoping to increase her dmg

[@Spicyup]

If she's off field then em is good, but I mostly used her as on field, so dps is good. But kinda want to balance em and dps after watching this

[@PeachtreeCorners]

I’ve been debating this so hard. I have c2 with thousand dreams, and currently a good dendro piece because I lack an em for her sand piece. So either I can switch in a crit rate piece for her (once I have a good one) or an em sands (again once I have one).

[@ubaidmohamed3956]

If you have her signature weapon go for em sands, Dandreo goblet, em circlet. You can manage 900+ em that way. And if you can switch to a crit circlet and still manage to be 900+ em (by team buffs), you can switch to crit. Im going with the first one. Ps. I just got nahida C0, so if im making a mistake building her like this, any advic/corrections areappreciated. Thanks in advance.

[@noalt4028]

@@ubaidmohamed3956 Leveling em over 1k is not recommended because that would mean she has max cr and bonus damage for tri-karma from her talent, I say crit damage or crit rate from a head piece, and dendro damage if you have her signature. i have 775 em, 35.3 cr, 162 cd with the gilded dreams 4 piece at level 89 and needless to say, nahida is insanely strong with support, otherwise she does 225 no crit and 1200 crit, but bloom sprouts do 10k, burgeon does 12k, aggravate and spread do 30k, and burning does 1.4k per hit marker. This is done with sac frags, rank 5 level 90, talent 7 for all schemes, talent 4 for illusory heart, and level 2+1 with normal attacks because of childe's passive, and at Constellation 0.

[@PeachtreeCorners]

First person I’ve heard say that… most say EM/EM/Crit instead. I calculated without team buffs she’ll be 870 if I leave her with the Dendro sands. If I give her a dendro teammate that does put her over 1000 (100 for resonance, 32 for bonus from the weapon), but thusfar have avoided that.

[@chapal7927]

I was thinking to about a build Em/ dendro/ Em I don’t know if it’s good

[@PeachtreeCorners]

Dunno, I am curious where people are assuming 1K EM while maintaining non-EM on 2 artis. Maybe they assume she is mostly on-field damage support so she gets her own buff? Again, with sig weapon and a 61 substat arti I barely hit the 1K otherwise, and that is with full EM artis.

[@buffchicken8201]

Of course it's solar pearl for dps :(

[@1000regine]

I have a full EM build with really good substats like cr:45 cd:170+ and she hits like a truck. So fun to play!

[@Chunchunmaru23]

Do you think it would be a good idea to put, memories of the sacrifice, mastery clock, chalice of dendro damage bonus and mastery?

[@deezmodsonly1497]

how do you already have her on 10 10 10...

[@Fely521]

Hmm, you're measuring a lot of the reactions completely wrong. Bountiful core dmg is based solely on Nilou's Max HP, not Nilou's EM or any other character's EM. Normal dendro core dmg is based on the EM of the triggering character. Spread reactions happen when you apply Dentro TO Electro (you applied it backwards which took into account Kuki's EM, not Nahida's). Transformative reactions take into account the triggering character's Level and EM, if you trigger a reaction with a 200 EM character instead of a 900 EM Nahida, you will be dealing way less damage, since Nahida wasn't the one who triggered the reaction, thus the other character's attributes would be used to calculate the reaction damage. Taking into account that Transformative Reactions like Hyperbloom, Bloom, Burgeon, Bountiful cores and Burn don't crit and scale off EM, building crit for these types of reactions will only affect Nahida's attack damage, not the damage of the reactions she creates, so it is not optimal at all to bring Crit Rate/DMG to these reactions since there is no a single multiplier related to Crit in the formula for those reaction. However Quickened based reactions CAN crit, both Aggravate and Spread can strike critical hits, building Crit Rate for these reactions alone is optimal. Funny fact is that Quickened based reactions can crit and bot scale the same as transformative reactions, with EM, you might consider this a "mini" reaction to each attack. I would advise reading about reactions and being a bit more knowledgeable about the game before posting a video like this.

[@valawilde3927]

My nahida has 21% Prob and 50% Crit, i think im good 😃 💀

[@isthisayoutubechannel2277]

Should have been: "Nahida EM vs ATK+CRIT" (since both of them can deal quite a lot damage) The word "DPS" somehow being wrongly overused for a very long time by this community.

[@yozakuramiji9]

the stats of the dps build in the video seems a bit off tho... my dps build have 45 crit rate with 243 crit dmg and 800 EM and that's what u can call as a dps build

[@InAtlasAtLast]

How much did that cost?

[@yozakuramiji9]

@@InAtlasAtLast didnt spent money lol i just have some good artifacts and gave her Kagura Veridy cuz ye I got the weapon and I'm not pulling for yae miko

[@inferius3389]

Or you can do boths. My Nahida has 700 em and 60/160 crit. With party buffs she has 1200 em

[@AanAntheroNo1]

U can build Nahida with basicly anything and she will be OP

[@kmwgaming4526]

Have gone with 1000 em DW to maximize her support capabilities. Definitely lower dmg than dps nahida but when burst is out to support the team I believe the team dps would be higher.

[@knr3501]

Maximum boost for skill only 1000em, burst make up maximum about 200em more so I think about 800em total enough. 1 more art probably can goes to cr/cd. Correct me if wrong.

[@kmwgaming4526]

@@knr3501 Her burst would provide up to 250em scaling off of 25% of her own EM

[@ginichimaruan3572]

She needs both basically. You can't ignore EM. But building EM only without any crits will also not work as well.

[@TaylorONEism93]

I love how it’s really up to your discretion how you build this character. Also these crit %’s and EM seem like very minimal %’s EM and the damage is absolutely phenomenal.

[@1NabbinatoR]

yeah what about if you have her C4 that increase EM by 100 or more based on enemy and also her signature weapon, also another dendro in team for her burst and that character or someone in the team also posses something like freedom sworn. at that point you overcap on EM no? like over 800 for sure maybe even 100 and is worth going with the dps build

[@Ayumu31]

still haven't been able to get a good em goblet so am using em dendro em for now n it's working fine thus far .

[@Kimmih]

TLDW: EM for bigger reaction damage DPS for Nahida Active most of the time on field

[@Glauden95]

3 Elemental mastery artifacts and two artifacts with the right amount of crit damage and crit rate will make her perfect

[@victordominguez3363]

it might change with her ult activated, when her ult is on field she gets around 25% of the EM (up to 250) of the character with the highest EM on the team, so maybe it changes the difference between EM and dps build

[@FunTimeGhz]

It all depends on your team, your team weapons and artifacts. My Nahida is atk, dendro and crit. However, her em exceeded 1000 em during battles.

[@Zombeh]

EM is better cuz its taking more advantage of her Ascension passive that grants crit rate and dmg based on EM

[@ghostblob8283]

If you build nahida as off field get 1000 em bit if you go dps then go for like 700em max 800 then go all crit

[@s3ungr1v0lvot3]

she GOD Support. not recommend for dps. 😓 but iam happy have her.... Good for farming and use EM from her soo fun... 😺😺😺

[@thatkidontheblock2921]

it's better to build her based on my experience if you have her signature weapon EM/EM/CRIT with a 4pc Deepwood

[@SensorProximity]

Both things: Look at all this damage! I'm hitting easy 50k+ spreads with only 24 crit rate + 24 from the ascension passive and 130 CDamage. Once I unleash Temple of Maya, I'm getting to 1,100 EM. She's so broken and I'm still going to go for C2 hopefully.

[@jetty_19]

any tips on building chars? planning to use diona c6, fischl, beidou, nahida 500 em (600 em if 4pc glided takes effect) r1 lost prayer 40/160 4pc gilded

[@dane0252]

Balance of high em with solid ratio and substates is better than focusing on one

[@tsuuuno]

How can u 10/10/10 for the talent nahida ?

[@izarjessonclaudio3085]

Should dps build be doing NAs coz they’re on field? Esp for aggravate teams.

[@ilyes5560]

Which of the artifact sets is better tho?

[@chutknee]

no ruin guards were hurted while filming this video

[@rifkyakhmadf7872]

What is the Conclusion???

[@tryintech839]

are you using Gilded Dreams or Deep Woods set with this build? EDIT: nvm just had to keep watching lol. thanks for the showcase. currently building her and can't wait until I get her leveled. the crit rate/crit damage is very achievable with the EM build. also Magic Guide or Mappa Mare are very good F2P friendly substitutes for Sacrificial Fragments for the EM build.

[@Sergmanny46]

I thought it was pretty obvious Kusanali em is the way to build her, not dps. Even when she's on field doing the damage (main dps) she does more damage WITHOUT a dps build because her em scaling is that good.

[@sanjeevkaler3201]

How do you get triple crown on her talent?

[@Ironxcrk11]

My DPS Nahida have +600 EM and 1400 Atk with 60/120 crit ratio with talents on 6 is doing the same damage of that DPS Nahida on the video with talents on 10. Nahida needs EM and the DPS one lacks of it.

[@meagodgod6373]

Lucky you coz you haver her signature weapon , much more if you have c2 on her

[@FictionalAquila]

Nice video! To the point while still very informative 👏🏻 I am curious tho, how can you already triple crown her talents? I mean even with my best luck, usually i just got 3 talent up matts, so 2x facing Scara is really not enough for me lol.

[@Purplorr]

Beta build probably

[@FictionalAquila]

@@Purplorr ahh i see, you probably right.

[@MarcosAndre-de2fu]

How the hell is she 10, 10, 10?

[@luxus20]

Truuee might be an advanced server or beta tester player

[@gens_]

Yes for now. very imposible to make her triple crown

[@Sen2Jr]

@@gens_ why is it impossible?

[@enrageplayz4011]

@@Sen2Jr you need scaramouch mats for her talent which is a weekly boss

[@gens_]

@@Sen2Jr we need material from god scara so much, and genshin only give us 2 or 3 material from god scara every week. Thats mean u need 6 or 9 week to make her triple crown.

[@basilrodriguez6019]

Here’s my testing results For Support EM EM Crit Solo Dendro Deepwood - 38:181 753EM (39k tri karma) 2 Dendro Deepwood - 38:181 835EM (42k tri karma) For DPS EM Dendro Crit Solo Dendro Gilded with DP user - 36:184 646EM (48k per tri karma) 2 Dendro Gilded with DP user - 36:184 728EM (49.5k tri karma) This my end game stats 2 Dendro Gilded with DP user - 33:202 728 EM (53k tri karma)

[@dottorekisser2]

wdym by 2 dendro gilded?

[@basilrodriguez6019]

@@dottorekisser2 2 Dendro Nahida on gilded

[@ilhamMrizki]

bro can u make it wandering evenstar comparison video with nahida?

[@CDJaramillo92]

I have my Nahida triple EM with 50/108 godlike pieces with her signature for a total of 1000EM is pretty good for my Alhaitham and burgeon teams.

[@gutembergdealmeida3192]

This is the video that I want! 🥹 I was in doubt between full EM and DPS Build. Thanks for the conclusion, bro: "Forget DPS Build and focus in Elemental Mastery (EM)."

[@adamritton5820]

Except the dps build is better. He's only showing what a crit/non crit hit for not how often. The dps build hits for less but crits more often giving more damage over a longer period of time. If you play on field then dps build does even more damage vs. em.

[@MarcoSax94]

It's not simple to have 900 EM and also 135 crit DMG...

[@Abyss-Will]

I'm running her with a widsith and attack sands and she's great, 236 EM, 62 CR, 167 CD and 1555 attack and she works great

[@donrueben92]

It's not fair to compare Nahida builds without specifying her role in a team and the artifacts and weapon she is using. Better have both builds for flexibility.

[@pandaescarlate7268]

From what I've tested myself after 400 to 500 em the damage increase lowers A lot

[@NFYT]

making her a dps doesn't mean deleting all her EM, you basically have NO EM, you getr 180 or 200+ from gilded dreams and 115 fron ascention, you need to get more em, bc her kit is based on EM, thus her "dps build" is an EM build, just dont try getting her triple EM it can work but only for her skill, try EM sands, and EM substats and an EM weapon

[@more3016]

then if you're taking her as a dps how much em would be nice?? 🤔

[@NFYT]

@@more3016 she really gets a lot of EM just by existing, ideally with her BiS you would want something between 500-800, and 500 is little in my opinion so 600-800, gilded dreams set gives A LOT of EM, and then she scales of EM, her weapon gives her a lot of EM (if not sac fragments is a great option too), with weapon + ascention stats + an EM sands with a couple substats you can reach it perfectly, without sacrificing the others main stats like dendro DMG bonus or crit DMG ofc the best to go is 1K, you can reach that with your supports, if you run her in a team with kazuha, sucrose or C6 diona it will be done, if you run instructor set it will also reach 1K, its very hard only with artifacts without doing triple EM, you might also do double EM

[@Moon-hp3nm]

@@NFYT 800 is enough for her, without support too

[@NFYT]

@@Moon-hp3nm it’s more than enough, you always can get more EM from other sources (diona by example), anyways still the thing is plenty of her teams are with kazuha (specially burgeon or hyperbloom), so you basically don’t even explicitly need to build EM on her on certain teams (but it is recommended)

[@Scaramouchex22]

Ur daily reminder that building a character as a dps is basically building them based on what their dmg scales of so dps nahida = em nahida bc u will use spread reaction for nahida dmg

[@Mick4yD0nald]

What about both?

[@panjimartiandaru3081]

Does Nahida still want 50 or more crit dmg with EM build? I have trouble to get decent crate with triple EM build

[@batatapalha1241]

It's good, since a Triple Em without EM weapon and in lvl 90 will give u 14% of crit rate for her tri-karma (Without her EM boost when inside the Burst). So, 40-45% its alredy ok for a off field Nahida. But If u Wanna use her on field, yeah, 50 or more

[@panjimartiandaru3081]

With triple EM my crate is only 18 😭

[@batatapalha1241]

@@panjimartiandaru3081 I have a dual EM with 40 crit rate (She still dont have ant clock), but If u have a good build with EM/Dendro/Crit u can use a EM weapon and Will be pretty close to triple Em (Maybe even stronger on field), the only down grade is less EM for the character on field, but still

[@panjimartiandaru3081]

@@batatapalha1241 currently I'm using crate em em with sac frag, totalling at 711 EM with 50 crate 120 cdmg. I will go with this I guess.

[@batatapalha1241]

@@panjimartiandaru3081 It's pretty good, i think that's enough

[@_ketyx9302]

I have a question I have her weapon soo I can make her dps or elm without changing the weapon right ??

[@hankaaineffvble6847]

idk if its late to ask but i was wondering if i should focus on only em or only atk crit. my current nahida has 750em 40/150 crit ratio with 1400atk. should i focus on only one or no?

[@TheMirksta]

That's pretty much the sweet spot for Nahida in most teams. You want around 800EM with a good crit ratio, which (factoring in her passive boost to skill crit rate based on EM) you have both of. You may prefer 50/130 ratio with that much CV but the difference is negligible. If you plan on using her as an EM buffer, you might want to get closer to 1k, but overall your nahida will do great buffs and personal damage anyway.

[@tofayelahmed3966]

I'm using EM/EM/CR and that's the best for all situation for my artifacts

[@k-BlazeWuthringwaves30]

You can build a hybrid nahida Dps lol 2pc glided 2pc Wonderers troupe Weapon : withsith Em 550 Crit circlet Atk sands with EM substats Or crit substats Em goblet lol Just slot a kazuha or sucrose on the back for more Em boost Make sure kazuha and sucrose has the highest em

[@creolur]

Only Kazuha C2 can boost EM by his power alone

[@aamirbayad2043]

80 em set 700 em + 150 from reaction 850 em 43-182 ratio 46% dendro DMG bonus my build is amazing even at 9 skill 33k and if i use dendro 4 pc set on other characters for 30% dendro res it can go up to 38k