What I'm Learning About Orchestral Writing (both MIDI and LIVE)

[@user-qy3uu3ky2o]

I think there is no other person on youtube, who does something like this. It feel like magic. Please, go on. You are brilliant!!!!!!!!!!

[@NahreSol]

Wow, thank you for the compliment! I appreciate it!!

[@seancloser]

She s one of a kind

[@leif1075]

@@NahreSol Hey Nahre, I hope you can respond to my message about how you come up with new musical ideas especially melodies and harmonies when you have a chance. Thanks very much.

[@RaptorT1V]

Рад, что русские тоже смотрят этот чудесный канал!

[@SimpleBach]

Nahre Sol Yes! I think you are brave as sh*t. I’ll waste days trying to perfect a single Bach Goldberg Variation, telling myself I’ll create a meaningful video (often with unique musical/extra-musical ideas) to post for my FAMILY on FACEBOOK. I may come up with something acceptable, or even great (rare with my standards), and then just trash the idea anyway. Seeing you be this open about your musical JOURNEY is really inspiring. Not to mention the level at which you compose/perform is very high and only seems to be moving up! Thank you 🙏🏻, I am looking forward to hearing hearing this piece performed soon. -Phil

[@frankfarklesberry]

Nahre: As an ignorant but appreciative non-musician, I found this video fascinating. I learn so much, and gain so much more appreciation of the knowledge and skill that musicians have. As I watched, I wondered about the minds of great composers - their familiarity with all the instruments, its capabililties, the abilities of the musicians, and whether the composers collaborated like you with the people who are going to eventually play it. Loved it.

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!! I really feel the same - I wonder how the great composers used to work with musicians.... have a great weekend!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@brucedavis191]

@@NahreSol can I state the obvious but I'd reach out to david bruce he can give a bit of insight as well

[@yesloow]

Four things that make your videos wonderful: 1) Your absolute joy in music and in learning about music. You are clearly very accomplished and are creating beautiful music, but you have an insatiable curiosity and the grace to know you have so much more to learn. You are always humble and listen to fellow musicians. You show a side of the creative process and how artists learn from each other and help each other develop...I don't think most people who appreciate music see this and you show it in real time. You set a great example of how to approach learning more about your own craft, 2) The artistic cut-aways. You break up your videos to give the viewer both aural and visual breaks, and they are always surprising, delightful, and perfectly timed. That cut to the waterfall gave the video a grander ambiance and a natural context, 3) Massively insightful information that has something for every level of viewer. Even my 11 year old daughter who is just starting piano can take away some things from your videos, and 4) Beautiful music, sounds, soothing voice, and pacing. Well done! I'm so excited to see and hear more from you!

[@NahreSol]

Wow, thank you so much for such wonderfully kind, insightful, and generous words. I am not a professional video editor so I always just follow my intuition or I just do what I can from video to video. So to hear these things is so nice for me, and I really cannot thank you enough for all the kind compliments about my approach, etc. Means a lot to me! 🙏

[@ElliottMilesMcKinley69]

The orchestra and MIDI are completely different beasts as you demonstrate and to be honest, it takes a lifetime to really know the orchestra as an instrument :) - Anyway, great video Nahre!

[@NahreSol]

Yes!! Elliott I must get you on the channel for a video where you can share your expertise!

[@RohannvanRensburg]

Would you say mastery of the latter requires some degree of mastery of the former? I generally find composers that go for MIDI first without learning orchestral idioms tend to miss the mark when it comes to something that's actually playable with an orchestra.

[@ElliottMilesMcKinley69]

@@RohannvanRensburg this is certainly a big subject. Many of my students get a bit intoxicated by what the computer can do (vs what humans can) and then are either surprised or downright disappointed when they get performances with actual musicians. It takes a LOT of listening to the repertoire, instruments, and even, when possible, trying to make sound with the acoustic instruments to get a feel for how they physically make sound. And this process takes a while...

[@RohannvanRensburg]

@@ElliottMilesMcKinley69 I agree. I actually thinking handing newbies (myself very much included at the time) a virtual orchestra is probably not a good thing, frankly. If I had simply started with i.e. just a string library and learned to pay attention to and write for strings, I'd probably be better off today in my composition. I spent way too much time messing around with trying to mix, create templates etc. No composing great started out with the tools before the skills and unfortunately what many people end up with is a lack of direction, a lack of anchoring the listener and a painful amount of vertical development to try and make a piece sound "epic".

[@martifingers]

This is quite dizzying.. here we have a world class musician sharing her creative process with the performers ( and us!) with no discernible presence of ego. What we can begin to hear in the music is what many of us, I think are beginning to recognise as her distinctive voice. This indeed enlightening and not just in terms of the music - I am sure many us will be waiting eagerly for the next episode.

[@NahreSol]

Wow, thank you so much!!! I really appreciate it 🙏

[@BeatleJWOL]

9:02 You have here the "A Day In The Life" problem. :) Paul McCartney wanted two large orchestral sweeps in the Beatles' now-classic record, all improvised from lowest to highest note. George Martin felt that the orchestra wouldn't respond very well to that, and as always, translated the Fabs' wishes to the outside players: George Martin: "I had to instruct them. ‘We’re going to start very very quietly and end up very very loud. We’re to start very low in pitch and end up very high. You’ve got to make your own way up there, as slidey as possible so that the clarinets slurp, trombones gliss, violins slide without fingering any notes. And whatever you do, don’t listen to the fellow next to you because I don’t want you to be doing the same thing.’ Of course they all looked at me as though I was mad… " Paul McCartney: "It was interesting because I saw the orchestra’s characters. The strings were like sheep - they all looked at each other: ‘Are you going up? I am!’ and they’d all go up together, the leader would take them all up. The trumpeters were much wilder. The jazz guys, they liked the brief. The musicians with the more conventional instruments would behave more conventionally. " quotes from www.beatlesbible.com/songs/a-day-in-the-life/2/ Of course now in [current year] you're dealing with a more modern orchestra with less, uh, hangups, clearly. :D But still, you heard the same thing: some sections need a little structure, some can just go nuts. Loving the piece and also the presentation of material. I've had the wild idea to try my hand at rearranging Queen's "Good Company" as a jazz band instead of, well, a guitar orchestra. This gives me some things to think about.

[@jelanisurpriscomposer]

Yo can tell she approaches minimalism a great deal in the piano part but then maintains form in a less synthesized manner. Super cool. Definately sounds a bit like john adams piano concerto!

[@NahreSol]

Thank you!!!

[@MickBenjamins]

So insightful! Can’t wait to hear the full piece!

[@NahreSol]

Thank you SO much Mick!!! We couldn’t have done this without your help!!!

[@CristianMunoz-wb3rv]

Nahre, the first few measures of your composition left my mouth wide open. That was seriously some of the most beautiful work I've every heard for this orchestration, and it's truly beyond what words can describe. Your skill at painting emotional chord progressions are incredibly powerful. I'll be listening to these clips over and over until you release the rest next year. It really comes at a very coincidental time for me, because I am in the middle of writing a piano concerto for myself to perform with my high school symphony class. I understand the difficulties in writing for so many instruments, and this video comes at a time I most needed it. To be honest, my reference when it comes to writing the chord progressions for my composition has been you. I've been trying to go for a more exotic range of harmonies, and want to do something very different. When I am stuck, I listen back to your music, which pushes me to keep going. Nahre, your ambition truly pays off, and it inspires me to be like you. Thanks again for this video! 😁

[@NahreSol]

Wow, thank you so much!!! I can't tell how much all of this means to me. 🙏🙏🙏

[@soundtreks]

MIDI orchestration is as much a skill as traditional orchestration, and both are actually somewhat mutually exclusive. Trying to force samples into performing a phrase that would work on real instruments is always an exercise in frustration. I've been at this for 30 years and it takes a lot of hard work, determination but mostly good ears. Knowing the orchestra definitely helps, especially if the mock up will ultimately be performed by a real group. Great video! It's very educational and will help a lot of fledgling MIDI composers! :)

[@NahreSol]

Yes, David!! Such amazing points -- thanks so much for this comment!! And thank you!!!

[@soundtreks]

@@NahreSol oh I forgot to say how much I love how the piece sounds! What lovely writing! And of course those sumptuous harmonies. being a former jazzer vertical writing really knocks my socks off... or should I say headphones to keep the metaphor consistent? LOL.

[@redeemer665]

Thanks for your insight too, David 🙂

[@Afghamistam]

For me, the next game changer after solving the puzzle of CC numbers, was the breath controller. Especially if you want to go down the road of attempting to sequence solo instruments. When I got mine, it was with the intention of laying down brass section tracks, but it didn't take me long to realise that they obviously work brilliantly for writing string parts as well. It's not simply that they make the job of recording that automation information 10x easier, but there's nothing like when you're actually recording the track and having the movement of your head and your breath itself affect the notes that are being played. That's when things move from "labourious transcription" to "actual performance". We're getting closer to the holy grail... of making actual instrumentalists unemployed.

[@revdeandawg]

@@Afghamistam Insightful comments. Thanks for sharing. Oh, by the way, instrumentalists are already unemployed. 😏

[@Packbat]

I'm not even a violinist but the pizzicato anecdotes at 13:47 had me *dying* 🤣

[@NahreSol]

😁😁😁

[@truecuckoo]

You’re the best. I really appreciate this. 🙏🏼

[@DRSwain1988]

Fantastically informative video, Nahre! I am currently writing a ballet score for orchestra, but I'm doing it all "from scratch" in Sibelius. It was therefore really interesting to learn more about how MIDI orchestral writing works, as it's something I know woefully little about!

[@dosgos]

These tips from the MCO were awesome. Learned so much!

[@NahreSol]

So glad, thank you!!

[@uhhhclem]

Nothing does more for music education than allowing people to see how normal it is to suck when you don't know how to do something yet. It's really important for people learning music to see and hear what the process of going from bad to good is like, because most of our experience as listeners and students is with everyone's best work, and most of our experience as instrumentalists is with our own worst work.

[@matheusrocha8731]

I like how it combines impressionism, serialism and minimalism.

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!!! 🙏

[@maxalaintwo3578]

so many -isms I can't keep track!

[@rblcoles]

I live in Manitoba. I will DIE if I hear this live. Can't wait!!!

[@ManitobaChamberOrchestra]

[@prmft94123]

Oh Nahre! This is brilliant! Just the taste of this work leaves me hungry for the full concerto . . . impressions of French and American sounds, evocative of creating a whole world of the imagination. I love your collaboration with the other musicians, truly a democratic effort. A wonderful departure from another kind of composer who might tyrannically insist on his/her vision. I am one of your most appreciative fans, and I so love your generosity of spirit in sharing your personal journey with us like you do! Patricia

[@NahreSol]

Hi Patricia! So wonderful to see your comment, and thank you SO much for your kind words. I hope all is well with you and that you are enjoying the weekend! All best, Nahre

[@prmft94123]

@@NahreSol A good weekend that you just made better! xo/p

[@williamlembke7828]

I saw the notification pop up on my phone and I got so excited and I had no idea that it would be such a jam packed video. I love you're content and please continue to share your journey 💝☺️

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much, I appreciate it!!! 🙏

[@prasshanthvp1082]

Thank you Nahre for the 18.36 mins, learnt a lot today. ❤️

[@NahreSol]

Thank you back!!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@raquelgomezem4108]

I didn't understand most of the things that were talked about here, but I found it very nice. Good Joob !!!

[@NahreSol]

Thank you!!!

[@pianomusic2010]

I was listening to your album at work about a week or so ago and thought to myself how cool it would be to see you compose a piece for piano and orchestra, and now here this is! It sounds incredible so far, and this video was stellar, as always! So excited to hear the finished product.

[@manu-singh]

I am amazed that people here love you so much that they like and comment before even watching your video

[@palbrekke9455]

Patreon members see some videos before they are publicly available on KZbin. Thus comments and likes can happen before videos premiere on YT.

[@sandscribbler]

That was fantastic! I especially enjoyed the gracious way in which each expert contributed to the piece. It looked like a model of collaboration.

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!!

[@andrewwunrow]

This was super interesting! I consider myself to be very proficient in MIDI orchestration, but sometimes I have trouble translating it to sheet music, as I don’t have anyone to play it. This was very informative, and quite interesting to watch!

[@simonillouz3295]

Your video editing skills and production value has always been good but I feel like they have still recently improved. Super engaging style

[@NahreSol]

Wow, thank you so much!!! 🙏

[@KiranManoharan]

Great job Nahre loved the piece. And also this video was so helpful.

[@robertjones9598]

It's so crazy to me that you're so astoundingly accomplished as a musician yet knew little about the MIDI stuff. I wanted to create essentially symphonic metal songs so I plunged into playing with orchestral sample library mock-ups a few years back, with only a meagre understanding of diatonic modes. I'm still learning about orchestral instrumentation and articulations, started to dip my toe further into classical as a result. Chopin and Debussy are pure magic to me at the moment. Your videos are very inspriring and a great source of knowledge, I appreciate your analysis of different composers' styles, their application of theory, the plethora of thematic ideas all running concurrently, music is really the ultimate art form. Anyway, yeah, thanks

[@JamesHunterRoss]

Too much fun... this has been a GREAT 18 minutes. I had no idea midi commands working with the specific the sample library could allow that level of expression. Who knew? It does seem like a ton of work, but it sounded amazing. Musicians are so interesting when talking about what they do. (A live performance in June? I expect a video...)

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!!! 🙏

[@fmontpetit]

That was super interesting and useful! Can't wait for that project with Julius. I hope we get to hear the final result, too!

[@CrypticPulsar]

Your videos and content are so heartwarming and intellectually engaging at the same time that I really can’t compare it to any other experience.. I watch your happy birthday videos over and over and sometimes even with my 4 month old daughter.. I watch your videos sometimes when I’m down or I had a fight with my wife, just to find piece and happiness.. it’s like a cat leaking his wound.. and then again I consume your content to learn about music and as warming tool to start watching g my math and computer science contents.. you and your beautiful voice and your friends and your content is such a blessing.. thank you a million times and please never stop, like ever!! Love Ron and baby Leana!

[@robertfraser485]

@Nahre Sol this is wonderful!! I'm so happy you get to work with the Manitoba Chamber Orchestra - I was born and raised in Manitoba and I know all of these musicians! They all have a huge amount of experience working one-on-one with living composers - I look forward to the premiere!

[@SamStormsKBD]

I simply loved it! Bring more of this. Love your vids

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!!

[@dooleyfussle8634]

Oh wow, Nahre, every time I watch you top yourself! What an incredible experience. Listening to the piano parts I said to myself (aloud) 'that's Nahre Sol alright...'

[@keiser6656]

I don't have words to say how much your work is inspiring for a begginer musician and composer. You touch so many things with curiosity and humility and keep digging in deeper to increase the potential things you could do and last but not least, you do it. So, I just want to thank you for that and I hope you'll keep going for a few moment. Thank you.

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!!! 🙏

[@zerksari]

Great to see you brainstorm, keep up the journey.

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!!! 🙏

[@Michaelist_music]

legitimately got chills during the section around 11:00, really loved the impressions here, and the samples do a great job conveying it

[@orbitalsounds6239]

From a practical learning perspective probably the best Video for starting MIDI composing for an Orchestra so far

[@danobrien9925]

This is such a beautiful piece of music, really divine and deeply moving.

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much !!!

[@Varvitski]

My feelings entirely. I had to listen to it again straight away. There seems to be something in my eye ....

[@unkykun]

You are just too good, there's no need for words at this point, every single of your videos is gold

[@mienaikoe]

This sounds like something straight out of Final Fantasy. Tells a story in just a moment. Good on you for seeking feedback from the orchestra who will be playing your piece. Some popular composers wouldn't even think to build a rapport with their performers.

[@jpdj2715]

Floored, you had me with the demo samples. Wow. What a breath of fresh air, the conversation with the musicians. (And I see one risk of talking with them showcasing all their tricks - you might use them all.)

[@somniavitasunt]

Watching this channel gives me a general feeling of how much there is to know & understand. (...and to what great extend I really don't know & understand) Edit: Part 3 had a strong Ravel feel to it

[@peaceofkake1085]

I'm not surprised about the amount of work it takes to put together an orchestra piece but I still find it overwhelming the amount of artistry that goes into it. I understand that there's no absolute right or wrong but there are just so many directions you can go and many considerations you must go through when you pick a direction.

[@C4rdboardgun]

I feel like I learned so much. As a producer/engineer going to school; we don't really get instruction for this kind of thing; so it's super cool, you taking us through the process with orchestral professionals. Also, dope score!

[@selmosian]

Some parts of this feels like if someone asked Hiromi to write orchestral music. You are a fantastic Piano player and composer. Inspiring!

[@meganrmarshall]

Having just finished composition studies myself the opportunity to work with an orchestra is just the dream - congrats!! Loved the cello and percussion insights and rather jealous of your midi orchestrations - I'm just stuck with sibelius sounds! Would love to see more about the midi orchestration - your way of explaining it was far more clear and understandable than a lot of what I've heard in class! And the piece sounds great, I love your ideas and some improv could be really cool, and the first movement is beautiful!!

[@JYH20]

Woah this is amazing! Always love watching your videos! I'm college freshman starting my major in composition, and your videos have been very helpful and inspiring! :)

[@NahreSol]

So cool!! Thank you so much!!!

[@saldogbed6773]

Your videos are so informative, and go into the detail that no one else seems to.

[@AnnaKhomichkoPianist]

I totally agree, I love that about Nahre’s channel as well

[@Lynkevmusic]

Thank you Nahre, it's generous of you to share a part of your process. I'm grateful to watch your video as a beginner composer. I have started working in Sibelius and it's frustrating but fun too. Your piece sounds amazing, I like that you are interested in the atmospheric and the detail and I could feel the sense of being with nature in the subtlety of the music. Best of luck with your composition journey, Kevin.

[@trevorrogers9276]

Okay they were tryna be useful, because that first part was absolutely gorgeous. It got me *there*. You know that place you always want music to take you. Chills, a floaty feeling like you're flying, slightly raised eyebrows, warmth in the chest....I don't know, maybe it just really fit my taste, but that first part is so FUCKING underrated since I've scrolled down and haven't seen comments about it. I'm really looking forward to hearing the final product!

[@thezxcv1234898]

Hey Nahre, thanks for sharing what you've been doing! I am also learning composition now bits by bits. I'm thankful for how generously you're sharing what you're learning and making!

[@sallylee4924]

This video is absolutely wonderful. It's so interesting to hear from all the musicians and see the "behind the scenes" of orchestration.

[@williamledbetter2223]

This was so insightful - both in terms of what's going on between your ears creatively, and in terms of the discoveries we watched you make in your conversations. Definitely, that MIDI really gave a fantastic feel for the breath within the musical line - so important for demonstrating your first movement.

[@RegalState]

Nahre, as someone who's analysed music conceptually for years now, it's extremely refreshing to see someone of your professional calibre be humble, and more importantly, have that constant hunger to learn and therefore grow. Please keep this mindset for decades to come, so that more people who watch you can invoke this mindset in their own lives, for whatever passions they may have. Much love from a fellow music aficionado ♥️

[@tomtimelord7876]

I love your piece, especially all the open fifths and fourths. They really capture the sound of open plains.

[@kath_img]

this video has moved me a lot! always so inspiring. Thank you so much Nahre

[@NahreSol]

Thank you back!!! 🙏

[@leonardoross8133]

I can't wait to hear the piece, amazing video nahre!

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!!

[@callactm14]

I like the prepared piano part. And the whole lot

[@SullieBurgess]

Thank you Nahre - I've been arranging with midi for a few years now but this stuff was still stupidly useful! They should just play this to students for midi arranging for orchestra 101

[@zomologorg]

If you don't have one yet I recommend buying a Midi controller that has faders on it. Map these to modulation and you'll be able to play the music with the right hand while controlling the modulation/automation with the left hand and record it all at once. Faders work really really well with this compared to knobs and mod wheels. Highly recommended! Also, in my opinion Spitfire has the best orchestral libraries.

[@NahreSol]

On my radar, don’t know about the fader world yet!!

[@zomologorg]

@@NahreSol It feels really good to move faders up and down for modulation on string libraries. Really enables you to feel what you're doing to the sound if you get what I mean. It's a bit like moving the bow itself! Love your videos!

[@robertbrown1778]

Yes, I was going to suggest a hardware controller. You might find it less tedious than constantly grabbing a mouse and using it to grab virtual dials, knobs and faders.

[@redeemer665]

I believe you could map your existing MIDI keyboard's knobs to control your DAW-system and VST instruments (just get someone else to do it for you so) or do like me and buy a Korg NanoKontrol 2 or similar. NK2 is small enough to fit anywhere, easy to set up and gets you in the control 🙂

[@zomologorg]

@@redeemer665 Yes you can, my point was that faders feel a lot more intuitive for modulation of string libraries because they're really tactile and visual.

[@BakerPeter]

I don't know if you've heard of Jeremy Soule, but he pioneered a lot of the technology that goes into advanced midi synthesis, and all of his music is midi, almost exclusively - it's what he prefers. He also happens to be a very famous video game music composer, but in my opinion, that should be secondary to his music. In any case, your first section is very reminiscent of his work, and I love how gentle and flowing it sounds. Thank you for sharing so early in the process.

[@dcbernman]

I'm making my first attempt at an orchestral piece and it's been spinning out into two experiences. When I approach it with the mindset of play, exploration, and experimentation, it's joyful and exciting. Pretty much any other mindset just spirals out into panic and anxiety though. I definitely enjoyed this video, working on orchestral music in a DAW has been another challenge I hope to overcome. Thanks for the inspiration!

[@kikoflauta]

Thank you Nahre! This is a wonderful insight on the world of music. You are an excellent educator/musician/composer!!!

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much !!

[@GordSellar]

It's really cool that orchestra members were happy to sit down and talk with you about these issues! I briefly studied composition ages ago as an undergrad, and multiple profs told me explicitly cautionary tales stories about showing up for orchestra rehearsals, and the musicians being hostile to the point of playing their parts wrong on purpose, as a kind of passive-aggressive "competency test" for the composer. (I suspect the reaction probably had something to do with the fact they tended to write more atonal or overtly avant-garde work, I'm not sure. Like, "Eh, this isn't real harmony, I bet I can make stuff up and the composer won't even notice.") Oh, and the little samples you shared are lovely. Were Winnipeg were only six hours away for me (as it was twenty years ago), I'd be tempted to make the drive out to hear it. (In the absence of COVID, I don't think I'd even hesitate. Alas, I'm on the other side of the world, so I'll have to settle for an eventual recording...) Best of luck with the project!

[@rajorand3792]

It’s extraordinary you are constantly searching and learning new things. This is really inspiring. Thank you

[@haiderriaz1885]

Thank you so much for your incredible content! I learn a tremendous amount from every video you put up, and your music is just so beautiful at the same time (been obsessed with Solitude for a while). This is a super helpful video for musicians and non-musicians alike, without being pedantic or overbearing. Looking forward to all you put out and compose in the future!

[@patrickk.3755]

I read midi Orchester and was interested but the Video was far more insightful and it's very unique. Always wanted to know how it works to write for Orchester altough I need to learn to compose of piano at first :D thank you!

[@emmanouela1141]

thank you for this!! I study film music and I just started using Logic and orchestrating and I am struggling a lot with it D:

[@NahreSol]

Oh, so glad! Thank you so much!!!

[@dinosyr]

I would definitely look into expression controllers, there is some really cool products that help you map out your automation much more naturally and smoothly.

[@emmanouela1141]

@@dinosyr thanks!

[@PrinceWesterburg]

Sooooo informative to me - how to make MIDI instruments come alive. I use EWQL Hollywood Orchestra and the BBC SO libraries and they sound great but where missing something. Oh and as a guitarist, pizzicato is my life! Crescendo - whats that?! :o)

[@devoid5377]

Really enjoyed this video

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!!! 🙏

[@CJ-ck6kk]

Great video Nahre. Truly looking forward to hearing the piece played. I am personally also drawn to the type of textures and colors, and the piano part (as suspected, you being the pianist you are) with it's strong rhythmical element are truly inventive. On a side note, Ravel's string quartet was also my first favorite, especially the pizzicato elements he so beautifully utilized. I really appreciate you connecting directly to the musicians and ask for feedback. Keep it up!

[@MrShagification]

I really like when Nahre does those syncopated grooves like at 11:20.

[@JoelBoissonneault]

Loved this. What a surprise to see our local MCO featured. Cant' wait for more.

[@thomaskrenn3808]

i am speachless

[@NahreSol]

🙏🙏🙏

[@davec1]

Sounds great, would love to hear a recording of the full piece performed by them when it's done! Also, as a (hobbyist) guitar player, hammer-ons and pull-offs are basically standard articulations on my instrument, yet as a (hobbyist) midi composer it weirdly never occurred to me that violin & co. could of course do the same thing and aren't just limited to regular pizzicato. :D I guess it goes to show how much the perception of an instrument can be limited/warped, if your main frame of reference is whatever articulations come with the sample libraries you own (and a very classical repertoire of music that doesn't tend to include a lot of extended techniques)...

[@whitwrk1]

Excellent! I needed all of this. Particularly helpful were the questions on how to notate special effects and/or articulations. Going beyond the note is always interesting and exciting.

[@josephlavecchia8069]

Nahre, the piece sounds wonderful so far. I can't wait to hear it in its later iterations.

[@GregLassalle2015]

I thoroughly enjoyed this video Nahre. Your joy and positive energy throughout are contagious. Beautiful work!!

[@jonathanrossmusic2509]

I’m in the middle of making an album with all MIDI instruments (because C ovid), and with me on guitars, so this is extremely helpful!

[@NahreSol]

So glad!! Good luck with the album!!!

[@kingdomking224]

Hearing 6:30 my eyes started to well up. I love your sound I love the feeling of darkness and chaos in the second sharing and how it transitions to a more uniform, wondrous configuration in 11:20

[@vmcelvis]

SO cool to be in the back seat of the unfolding a work in progress. SO many great textures and moods in your composition. Nice coif also

[@jessicabelle6163]

I admire you very much Nahre. You've motivated a lot of musicians, especially me, to continue in this art of music, you've taken your time to share with us your processes and practice notes , and I love you for that. As a young musician, you've inspired me and I'm learning a lot from you. Thank you!

[@kens.5095]

These videos are great! Informative, detailed, yet still very entertaining. And the music is fantastic. You definitely have both your right and left brains in sync. Thanks! Oh, and you don't need an orchestra. You ARE the orchestra!

[@BrokenBaton]

I’ve recently finally started working on DAW orchestration that I’ve been putting off for two years. This was very inspiring and helpful.

[@andrewsanders1643]

1. My cat woke up when she started showing off what the cello could do lol 2. I feel like we are watching a future Ravel. Love it.

[@dabeamer42]

As an old (ex)cellist and sometime composer of trivialities, I recognize some of those extended techniques (like the cellist was demonstrating). My primary suggestion is that some of those techniques are so quiet that they're virtually inaudible. If your MIDI library has the sounds (not a certainty), you could run into the problem of having an unreasonable volume in the score, which could never happen in real life. But I'll echo some of the other comments here -- this was an excellent, fascinating and educational video. Thanks, Nahre!

[@wosc]

This is such a fascinating insight into how music is created, thank you for sharing!

[@JSRLPadre]

Listened to the video first without actually watching. The funny thing for me: The MIDI instruments in isolation felt blatantly synth. But when mixed together, it felt like I was listening to a live orchestra. In its current rough state, I think your composition sounds fantastic. I can't wait to discover what refinements you and your team of musicians bring to the final piece. I hope you release a recording of it in the future.

[@KP-xl6rs]

This was a short video! It went by so fast and I learned a lot. Though, most of the midi stuff went over my head still. I'm excited to hear the final composition, what a beautiful melody!

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!!! 🙏

[@jihwoanahn]

I'm going to watch this video multiple times - can't get enough it. Thanks! 나래솔님 영상 너무 좋아요. 감사합니다 :)

[@kronoscapes806]

This was great!! I remember in college how we would dream about having musicians willing to play our pieces, so we could listen to them in a real scenario (and get this kinds of insights that only musicians have in their own experience). Impressive work, Nahre!

[@monsthyness4616]

Brilliant video, awesome-sounding piece!

[@NahreSol]

Thank you so much!!!

[@FreakieFan]

If you want realistic MIDI mockups and don’t want to bother with DAWs and MIDI orchestrating (which is an art in itself that takes years to master), I suggest to take a look at StaffPad. Especially since you are classically trained and fluent in notation, that should be a no brainer for you. If you invest in some of the expanded orchestral libraries it offers (I suggest the Berlin Orchestral Tools series) you will get tremendously authentic audio renderings of your hand-written notation, straight from the app. I can guarantee it will streamline and quicken your process a lot.

[@revdeandawg]

I’ll check into StaffPad. Thanks Guido!

[@nimjayawardhana8973]

Such a delightful group of people! Magic!

[@CyanPhoenix_]

as a violinist, i'm always impressed with percussion players and how much they can do. I'm over here just pizzing away while they're running around, playing 7 different instruments at the same time absolutely perfectly, and running across the stage not missing a beat. can't wait to hear the full piece, sounds absolutely amazing so far!

[@skemsen]

From 6:27 - so beautiful!!!! Reminded me of (to me genious) filmcomposer Michael Convertino. I'm dying to know if you know of him/have heard any of his work. Also I loved this video being a composer working with midi myself. I learned so much from this and could watch hours of more detail - especially thrilling to be able to watch the process and reactions from the musicians in the orchestra you're working with. What a ride! Thank you so much and best of luck with the project.

[@redeemer665]

Thank you sooo much for sharing this all! Invaluable insight, demystifying orchestration, what you should be aiming at in the general. Your composition also sounds really interesting, surprising and fresh 🙂 I'll be waiting for the final "product"!

[@MrFn65]

It’s great to show your collaboration with other musicians, your learning of software and writing process! Wonderful work!

[@danielberlien3680]

Thank you so much for sharing! So much useful information on working with other musicians, composing and producing. Your song is beautiful and intriguing, just like the scene you described of your inspiration. I particularly enjoy the rhythmic feel of your piece and music.