Nairobi street scenes - late 60s - were you at the Thorn Tree that day?

Nairobi - street scenes in the late 1960s

[@regalherbsman5938]

The streets were sparkling clean back then, not the case today.

[@ksgrmdsdl2383]

It is interesting to note that Nairobi was bustling with a beehive of activity in the 60s as it is today in 2022. I have noticed that most of these clips were captured in the modern-day Nairobi CBD. Most of those old structures still exist, but nowadays the city has expanded and there are new districts with remarkable modern skyscrappers including Westlands, Upperhill, Kilimani etc.

[@hopanyow]

I lived in a house along Lower Kabete Road for four years and left Nairobi in 1967. I was in the EAMSC club and took many films of motor racing in Nakuru - very happy memories!

[@RB3565]

Kirûngii~Westland's, was always there and provided the first mordernised residential shopping center for those that initially worked and lived at Mûthangari Loreto parish but the center grew and expanded faster to accomodate the then latest residential areas of Parklands, Highridge, and the entire upper Kavete, Rûreesho (cable & wireless) Lower Kavete Gitathuro which was all stolen lands migûnda ya mbari ya Thairû which extended all the way from lower Gokambura extending further to the east Mûcatha then south east present Muthaiga and Vanga-ini.

[@florencekimotho887]

Created with Predatory loans!

[@senbailiedee]

Brought back so many happy memories. I first visited the Thorn Tree in 1973 and will be returning from Scotland to sit there again in September 41 years to the day after I firts flew into Nairobi with East African Airways. Thank you so much for posting.

[@marvinlibale9685]

senbailiedee welcome back precious friend

[@hopanyow]

Hope you enjoyed your return trip to Kenya and the Thorn Tree. So glad you enjoyed the post - many thanks.

[@thenikimags]

What fond memories of my childhood!! The early '70s pretty much looked the same. Only KICC was complete then. Thanks for ride down memory lane!

[@TenzinLundrup]

I was in Nairobi during those times.

[@johnnjuru2246]

sad to note, that those days Nairobi was Nairobi I would enjoy every visit today there is nothing celebrate.

[@annabelleolum1568]

john njuru really sad - i miss the Nairobi I grew up in.

[@sharonmigariza5603]

So our city was once this decent, I can now relate why my mum enjoyed her campus days at the city but now she can barely walk from one street to another

[@larswirmark4359]

Thank you for the upload! I was living in Nairobi 1970 - 1972. Wonderful time in my life. We went all the time to Thorn Three. There was also a place called Pop In, where the locals met. I liked both those places. So many memories.

[@hopanyow]

Thanks for reminding me of the Pop In, which I think was our other meeting place - Saturday was always the Thorn Tree and Long Bar. Thanks for the memories (1967-1971)

[@larswirmark4359]

@@hopanyow There were also some discos. Was one called Topaz? Now remember that it was also sometimes a disco at Wilson airport.

[@michaelandrew4812]

Brought back memories I was around Nairobi in the 1980s in my childhood and see buildings that are in the clip.Thanks for sharing.

[@Freeedy]

As a child growing up in Nairobi was so much fun back in the 60s. My family emigrated away to U.K. in 1966 and I haven’t been back since. I fear that those wonderful locked in childhood memories may be totally shattered by what I dread to think has happened to this once beautiful city. It was also so very safe back then.

[@tafari988]

Its safer more than American Cities, such as New York..🤷‍♂️

[@ksligh4893]

@@tafari988 yup. My cousin was stabbed in a busy south london street while the worst that has happened to me in Nairobi is being pick pocketed.

[@ksgrmdsdl2383]

You do not need to come back to Nairobi. Just live and die there in the UK because if you come back, you will quickly realize that Kenya ceased to be a colony as soon as you left the country in the 60s. And that Africans have since been ruling themselves here. Lol! No white privilegdes of white settlers anymore!!

[@jayokal5137]

and only white, the natives required to show identification to enter the city.

[@afriqiyyya]

You are not free to come back.

[@kenyanson151]

At this time Nairobi should be greatest city in africa

[@anselmgachukia6809]

Jo'burg at this time had trums Nairobi didn't ,but yer probably number one by this time, but look at the current leadership Nairobi went to the dogs

[@chellegreen6150]

Why I'm I seing this right now..and I prefer the old kenya than right now ..so clean and vintage look

[@robinhutton]

I was the guy chatting up the blond girl one minute in the film!

[@hopanyow]

Nice to chat to you Robin after all this time. Dick C.

[@ndegwawarukira2912]

So Nairobi was organized and clean, today it's like hell...poor leadership

[@afriqiyyya]

Yeah with a GDP per capita income of a whooping 99 dollars in 1960, Colonial Kenya must have been paradise!

[@rederatv]

Uhuru Kenyatta was president for 10 years and did absolutely nothing for Kenya. He has nothing to show for.

[@Buddhavibez]

Islam

[@Buddhavibez]

@@rederatv10 yrs wasn’t enough time. It takes time to build an economy

[@jsspang]

Fantastic footage! Thanks for sharing.

[@paulcofield5126]

Ha yes those were the day's ,lived in Nairobi as a child my father worked for the EAR&H.I went back to Nairobi to show my wife the way of life we had back then and do you know ,it was not the same.

[@happyh1751]

Snap! Ex EAR&H child too. Many a happy day by the pool at the Railway Club. Shame to see it on Google Earth today.

[@westmax8491]

@@happyh1751 you mean it is terrible?

[@beautifulkenya1039]

But all cities grow. U can't Also compare new York in 1960s and today

[@isaacmwangi7562]

Very glad to see Nairobi B4 KICC was complete. Wonderful and continue uploading more.

[@wallacemunywa2507]

Nairobi was good those days... Traffic was flowing freely no pedestrian interaption.someone give us our city back

[@lilac8794]

It means white people must be involved again

[@beingwambui729]

Its not called the Central Business District/CBD for nothing, that hustle and bustle it shows growth, so Nairobi has just not grown in terms of more people but also the structure, buildings etc

[@deerafmoha9852]

Wow so this is what Nairobi was like. goosshhh! ever since i was a kid i couldn't get around the dirt surrounding Nairobi. i now realise that we really do need to change how we live.

[@ethansamuel5671]

i wish i was a time traveler and just o back to those days

[@kelvinmwanza7674]

Same here. I wish I’d go back in time

[@reubenomwenga8039]

You would enjoy if you went back as white skinned

[@ARi-gp3cm]

Amazing to see how things functioned and brilliant weather...

[@m.goodengumman3941]

My father was in Kenya then, sadly passed away few years ago, but I was born in 1960 Nairobi and left Kenya in 1974 I remember how good it was then, paradise on earth.

[@Shiraz687]

Brought my old memories back.

[@MartinIDavies]

Ah yes.. the 'Thorn Tree Cafe' in the New Stanley.. possibly the coolest watering hole in Nairobi in the mid 60s for us young ones.. I recall walking over from the Norfolk Hotel were we used to stay one Saturday morning in early Jan 1966.. it was the day before I had to return to the prison that was the Duke of York school for boys after the Christmas holidays... I was 14 and meet a couple of Kenya's finest young ladies.. :-) we sat a sipped iced cold Sprites and Cokes through straws like the sophisticated cool teenagers we knew ourselves to be.. I wonder what became of the girls :-)

[@laisa158]

the big tree with notes of people around East Africa...Best time in my life !

[@COA319]

Cool🔥

[@hilarrytarus1200]

They became gengetone musicians

[@larswirmark4359]

Was one of the young ladies called Maria...?

[@mwangiirungu3670]

One is my granny 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cliffrossenrode7587]

Yes, had a few sodas, watching the girls go by, at the Thorn tree around '68. - Good days!

[@lisakibathi6434]

Wow! My dad was born in ‘68 😅… I long for the Nairobi I never got to experience…

[@yvekay5139]

It must have been a paradise before the came. I mean imagine Nairobi as this vast green land with all this rivers running through them. And at a close proximity. Like a fairytale garden. But whoever filmed this, did a good job. I can imagine the next century people being shown Nairobi as it is now.

[@sheilalalani9988]

I wonder where all these classic cars went to😮

[@hopanyow]

I sold my Triumph TR3A to a guy in Mombasa before I left in 1971

[@larciabella]

I wish I was at THE THORN TREE that day! Greetings the Time Traveler!

[@MainaGakere]

Amazing shots of Nairobi during my grandparents time. The lady at 4:06 though...haha. Thanks for the upload.

[@wanjirukarago9308]

The colonisers were really enjoying our land back then 😆😆

[@mwangiirungu3670]

Aki ...see their comments mazee .....

[@DARWINZOO]

Loved it! I was ages 6-17

[@jolandadubbeldam4720]

Brilliant! Very enjoyable, and rare to find this kind of "slice of life" of times gone by :-)

[@FidelMaithya]

i know right it seemed like a much simpler time...

[@m.goodengumman3941]

@@FidelMaithya peaceful, friendly and safe, paradise on earth it felt like, mazuri sana. Rafiki.

[@mwanikimwaniki6801]

@@m.goodengumman3941 When were you last here?

[@m.goodengumman3941]

@@mwanikimwaniki6801 1974

[@mwanikimwaniki6801]

@@m.goodengumman3941 Boy oh boy. Nairobi is a booming metropolis rynow. With all the good and bad that comes with it

[@regan2177]

Wonderful footage

[@nicholasomolo]

I wasn't even born and my dad was probably 10 or 11 years old but I feel a strange nostalgia haha!

[@hopanyow]

Pleasure to bring it to you. Happy New Year

[@nicholasomolo]

@@hopanyow Thank you, happy new year!

[@frankolwenda5128]

Interesting. My father was probably in his teens during that time period. He was still in the village though, So I doubt he was able to experience Nairobi until at least the 1970s.

[@fegow-farmland8399]

Exactly bro! My dad too

[@lisakibathi6434]

I feel the same way!

[@user-qu1ee2pp4c]

how i wish i could experience this kind of Nairobi. 2024

[@nida4509]

I lost my dad and such videos are therapeutic to watch

[@hopanyow]

So sorry to hear that, glad I could help.

[@mutuuramwangi1913]

I remember this Nairobi very well. I was here in my twenties oblivious of the beauty that was about to get extinct. Nairobi today is a " no go" area, crowded, congested, crime ridden and empty of tourists and foreigners, a dying city. So sad.

[@hopanyow]

We both enjoyed the best times. I was also there in my twenties. Happy safari days H

[@chrisgitaka2553]

Oh shut up, with that nonsense your white god is gone and gone for good. Good riddance, now its us blacks and us alone.

[@chrisgitaka2553]

Oh shut up, with that nonsense your white god is gone and gone for good. Good riddance, now its us blacks and us alone.

[@chrisgitaka2553]

Oh shut up, with that nonsense your white god is gone and gone for good. Good riddance, now its us blacks and us alone.

[@Ab-mm5yf]

Nairobi a dying City? You must be mistaking it with another ☻

[@panchalgaman3872]

I miss my mother land mama Kenya

[@stevewalters3878]

VERY nice footage, man.

[@hopanyow]

Thanks

[@bobware2863]

Remember watching such quality movies at school,when we had to cover the class windows with blankets, watching Safari rallies or some movie

[@SusieKelly]

Wonderful. Brings back so many happy memories.

[@adrianlarkins7259]

Jambo memshab, I'm now 72. Lived in Nairobi from 1952 to 1968. Memories, memories. Did you live there?

[@SusieKelly]

Jambo Bwana, Habari gani? You are a couple of years older than me, and we both lived in Nairobi around about the same time - we were there from 1953 to 1972. I wrote a book about my life there, some of the happiest days of my life. goo.gl/1t7qgj.

[@SusieKelly]

Did you know there is a Facebook group called Kenyan Friends Reunited? Lots of wonderful Kenya memories there.

[@adrianlarkins7259]

***** I went to St Mary's and later the POW. Were you at the Boma? I bet you hung around Woolworths on Sat mornings. We may well have gone to the same parties and have mutual friends. Just checked, Your YOUNG face is familiar.

[@SusieKelly]

I didn't go to the Boma - went to Delamere after expulsion from Loreto Convent Valley Road. Had a lovely boyfriend, I think his name was David Parry, or it may have been John Parry. His father was a judge. Boyfriend got done for 'borrowing' a car and load of cigarettes and driving to Mombasa. Never saw him again. Mostly I spent my time at the stables at Riverside Drive, where I kept my pony. Used to go to Saturday morning cinema in Nairobi.

[@frankolwenda5128]

So clean and orderly

[@joyceeagan2235]

Been to the thorn tree a few times havingacool glass of lion and castle with my husband we lived in zambia in 1973 and got married at the unitedchurch of zambia we will be married 50 yrs april 7 2023 my how time flies lovly memories and lovely people 💞

[@MercyMazmida]

Wow this is beautiful, Nairobi was do classic posh n beautiful..haha I was not even born yet ..I see some really posh cars .. Anyways people must know that nothing stays forever, those who r staying Nairobi has changed r sounding a bit naive coz everywhere in the world has changed n not the same way they were in 80s or all those many years ..Even I hear people saying how UK has changed alot..

[@frankolwenda5128]

Amazing Video! Many of these structures are still up today. The biggest difference is how clean the city was back then. Nowadays the city is super congested and the streets aren't as clean as they used to appear in this video. Must've been nice to be alive around that time period.

[@hopanyow]

We used to drive up to Nakuru for the motor racing, stopping at Lake Naivasha for refreshments. First time I went to Mombasa there was still 60 miles of murram and it was raining. If we had stopped, we would not have been able to get going again - great days!

[@hopanyow]

It was a brilliant time to be alive and to be able to drive a Triumph TR3A around in Nairobi and Nakuru with the sun shining was a bonus!

[@zamzamadan7453]

What a brilliant old is gold

[@blasiosefu3605]

Great Footage

[@hopanyow]

Thanks

[@mburukimani3247]

It is only fair for the current Governor to see the ''city in the sun'' in her former glory! Everything was in perfect order

[@surambaya]

We will have to elect another... This one is clueless, lazy and thieving.

[@nigelslade5276]

I remember the first traffic being installed lights in Nairobi

[@echofriendly3708]

Wow. Amazing clips. Brings back golden memories. I visited Nairobi back in 2016 after 46 years. I was very sad to see Nairobi is not the same. Heart broken 💔

[@MercyMazmida]

Everything changes even abroad has changed alot n nothing stays forever...

[@themadfarmer5207]

The native population will insist... Even if it is dirtier, it is nicer with an acceptable level of dirt

[@baroznoma2056]

@@themadfarmer5207 We natives are not dumb, we know what we're saying. Cities like Chicago and newyork are more dangerous than Nairobi

[@GingerBreadMan76]

​@@baroznoma2056issue isnt is Chicago or NYC safer. The topic os NAIROBI ISNT AS SAFE AS IT WAS. Why do people get so emotional about the truth. Wacheni umama

[@m.goodengumman3941]

Yes I was there 60,s 70,s father shop on River road, name was NEW KENYA FRUIT STORE, corner of Halie Salese road. 👍

[@hopanyow]

Some of the best days of my life!

[@m.goodengumman3941]

@pm yes River road was clean, safe for shopping, till 1972, then few bars opened, some Taxi rank offices, and lots of people started moving into Nairobi so the lack of jobs and housing pushed lots of youngsters into drink and crime rates started to rise. This was the stage when population growth rising at a fast rate. The roads got into disrepair big craters started to form and were left for time. The original properties around River road were built by many Indian and muslims who had been living in Kenya since early 1920s. We lost 2 fruit and veg shops by 1973 forcefully acquired by high ranking politicians. Our shop was on the corner of Halie slasie road, next to the butcher's belonging to mr Khan he was first to lose his shop and us next. We left Kenya regretfully with tears as we were Kenyan in our hearts and souls. We terrible miss the great country, people and the weather. I would love to visit as I'm nearly 60 .😄🙏🇬🇧

[@westmax8491]

@@m.goodengumman3941 don't do it. It's messy. Matatus make Nairobi unpleasant. Then there are so many con artists and extreme poverty everywhere

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

We visited our aunty I think once or twice from Uganda in the mid, late 1960's, this was on the EAR trains. It was a copy of London, Birmingham, Manchester or any city in the UK. The climate was also pleasant and cool. Eldoret, another town in Kenya, was established by Boer farmers from South Africa who started the very popular KCC dairy and their milk and butter was exported to Uganda. Happy memories.

[@wanjirukarago9308]

Its those cars for me 😍

[@andrewthacker114]

Looks prosperous.

[@challisjoe]

Damn..My city looked nice..

[@Dev.0191]

My parents are teenagers in Nairobi during these times, I wonder whats on their minds

[@321qazwsxedc123]

It was so vibrant. Stanley hotel is dead now

[@22RDS]

Those saying the city was clean, well it should be considering that the entire population of the country, I mean the "whole country" was around 8 million at the time. so I can guess the city held less than 1 million people unlike today where it holds population almost equal to the country's back then. At this time my mom was around 5 years, but her dad, my grandpa used to sell scrap metal "Wandefe" here in Nairobi. Wow, loved the video

[@mwanikimwaniki6801]

You're right. It had only a handful of inhabitants. In fact, Nairobi was designed for 250,000 people.

[@MillennialJesus]

population boom is not an excuse for dirty streets

[@ciirunderitu2528]

Should never be an excuse, cities like New York, LA, Houston, Chicago are clean despite millions of inhabitants. Poor leadership & grand corruption are Nbi's undoing

[@jesusforlife1728]

Men look at the mzungus everywhere in town . What a beautiful scene

[@chrisgitaka2553]

Oh please cant beleive ppo like you still roam the earth... Emancipate yourself from mental slavery...

[@philipfulu]

I acknowledge that the past had its share of good stuff, but let us not succumb to the illusion of NOSTALGIC PREFERENCE. For the majority of Nairobians, life today is better than it was (or could have been) in the past.

[@austinonyango5297]

na wazungu walikua wanakaa ni ka ni kwao🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@GladysMungai]

Exactly. 😢 Wako hapa posting "memories" zao

[@thewatchman1078]

My father was a game hunter in those days - knew George Adamson who would on occasion rock up outside the Thorntree with Elsa his lioness on top of the cab. He thought him mad as he said she would be down off that land rover in flash in hunting mode as a still very much wild animal.

[@m.goodengumman3941]

Yes I heard about this when I was young, we grew up around the corner from the Thorntree " 😀👍

[@hopanyow]

Great story, great country, thanks

[@hopanyow]

Wow! that must have been quite a sight. People these days don't realise just how vulnerable they really are sitting behind just a car window in a game park. I met game hunter John Boyce in the Long Bar one Saturday morning, but to have known the legend that was George Adamson and Elsa is real African history. A great story, many thanks for sharing.

[@hopanyow]

Must have been wonderful times.

[@lukaz254]

Awesome video....I'm just started doing vlogs of Garissa Town but I'm not as good as you..congrats

[@hopanyow]

Thanks - good luck with your vlogs - Africa's a great country - had really good times.

[@lukaz254]

@@hopanyow point of correction bro...Africa is not a country...it's a continent with more than 54 countries.

[@hopanyow]

L, I should have said Kenya's a great country and I was lucky enough to have lived there for four years, back in the early 60s. Many thanks for your interest. H

[@hopanyow]

Keep going, you will be glad you did your vlogs in the future when you look back in years to come. Good luck.

[@deejay_hazexxtatic]

MAHNNNNN MEMORIES

[@Bossmaneger]

Na hao watu naona hapo wengi ni ancestors

[@paulkipkoechbosuben3106]

The cars for me❤

[@Fellazora]

The cars were so beautiful

[@onyangojoel7220]

Manze

[@Fellazora]

@@onyangojoel7220 umecheki 💯💯😄

[@onyangojoel7220]

@@Fellazora noma sana

[@westmax8491]

Unlike today where you wonder why cars like probox exist?

[@hopanyow]

I paid £265 for my TR3A back in 1967, when I arrived in Nairobi.

[@GioiaShah]

Dear Hopanyow, I am archive manager for a documentary film and would like to track down the origins of this video. Would you be able to let me know where you got this from? Thank you!

[@hopanyow]

I filmed this while I was four years in Nairobi, from 1967

[@TheLifeEvents]

I am due to visit 27 Dec 2017, after 35 years. Can I saunter around the city as it was then?

[@jamesojey1471]

So much has changed, you can only enjoy a good walk in a few areas of the city.

[@thedeepend1348]

Curious how it was

[@mutuuramwangi1913]

Don't even think about it.

[@TheLifeEvents]

@@mutuuramwangi1913 Thanks, we hired a driver. Changed so much, but recognised many locations.

[@chrisgitaka2553]

Saunter to your hearts content, do noy beleive the nay sayers!

[@georgenyasudi4060]

Just seen the new Stanley hotel. So it's an old hotel.

[@millym7270]

Grew up in Machakos 68-73 going to Nairobi always big day out - I remember going to a supermarket that had kids playground on roof & the Norfolk hotel with aviaries in the courtyard, a big park & lunch at the Hilton - ham sandwiches :)

[@m.goodengumman3941]

Don't forget the WOOLWORTHS, IVE GOT PICTURE OF OLD NAIROBI, 1957.

[@hopanyow]

I remember the aviary.

[@kennzain4487]

Win 50,000. 50,000 was like a million in these error.

[@sheikhibrahimabdullahikeny1509]

They where singing mzungu arudi kwao - ona Sasa wamebaki wakiuana na kuibiana wenyewe kwa wenyewe na watoto wao wame jaa kwa streets ni chokora...... Mzungu amerudi what next

[@westmax8491]

Now Nairobi is filled with slums in every corner.

[@simplymoonchild3908]

WOW!! What happen???! 😳

[@wafulamasikaAbbottjesselove]

Win 50 k lotto sign? That money then could buy the entire Loresho ridge

[@alphyzqrw7222]

Zakayo caused all the problems

[@asa1973100]

Different world guys

[@marywairimu9995]

There were no traffic lights I can see a person in the middle of the road ....hizo enzi zaonekana zilikua sawa kabisa si mavazi,kutulia the place is not congested ....

[@georgenyasudi4060]

I was expecting to see him getting knocked down 😂😂😂

[@cliffmwenja4853]

A traffic officer in a special boath with an umbrella commanding traffic?. Those were the days😅

[@hopanyow]

A Nairobi icon.

[@whizzypro3932]

Huge respect to the traffic officer..,did you notice him?

[@hopanyow]

Kept the traffic flowing

[@redeemed66]

muzungo muzungo everywhere

[@neonomad1939]

It looks more like the early 70s. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[@kevinohola4783]

At 3:12 KICC was under construction

[@KindPhilosophy]

Explain to me how Kenya charity sweepstakes has survived for a millennium 😳😂

[@itgamingke]

Lol!! Khaligraph jones na Eric Omondi were promoting it

[@samwelmohochi8364]

These are the 1970's images

[@filangafree]

Kulikuwa wazungu mob tao sikuhizo...

[@lydiaotieno7592]

i c,and there were no chokoras seems evryone had a family

[@westmax8491]

@@lydiaotieno7592 today, Nairobi has slums in every corner. Some places smell like toilets. Nairobi downtown is not pleasant anymore

[@michaelkamau9538]

I was 69yrs at the time and everything ran smoothly!😢

[@jamesmwai5950]

Nimeona wasee wamesimama kama bunge la mwananchi. Niko sure hao walikuwa wanasema venye life imekuwa hard 1965. Ati 1926 kulikuwa na makazi 😂😂

[@saintkim3890]

Nimemuona pia waciuri akivuka kenyatta avenue

[@gabistan2007]

Nairobi was at colonialtime and after short years a nice clean town. But now...thugs thieves hawkers ...dirty ....polluted.

[@Bossmaneger]

Win 50000 betting ilianza kitambo acha saa hii tunakaziwa

[@lugwetunje3896]

I hope there were no thief's

[@nathankipsang5784]

Nairobi will remain after we all die.

[@pmashaa1116]

that's before the matatu madness culture took over the city

[@conradwawire]

4:05 is she running from the camera hehe

[@kenyanboy7627]

It's now over 60 years down,8i wonder if the people in the video are still alive

[@hopanyow]

Yes, some are as I have spoken to them since I posted on this clip on line.

[@sarajuttla9758]

Oh yes every saturday

[@kennzain4487]

Most of this people aren't there plus the one who took the video😂😂😂

[@hopanyow]

I'm still here and I hope to take/post a few more videos.

[@phinessanyangomcayieye7865]

🤔🤔🤔 If only we could turn back the hands of time

[@DJLOFTY]

What would happen

[@phinessanyangomcayieye7865]

@@DJLOFTY things would be so diffefent. We wouldn't be in this predicament we are in as a Country#MYTWOSENSE#

[@saintkim3890]

Nimemuona waitina

[@igw4729]

Much quieter

[@njiru_]

Na kwani riverroad ilikua aje.