The video is a demonstration of the unique Nakamichi Dragon-CT turntable, which corrects for out of round records, allowing you to both see it work and hear the difference it makes.
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@svenschwingel86325 жыл бұрын
Those developers at Nakamichi were pretty ingenious. They offered top-notch quality in every field they worked in. I just had to recall their DAT-1000/DAC-1000P combo. Too bad they went out of business. There is almost no place for their kind of works anymore these days. A sad reality, that is.
@LogiForce864 жыл бұрын
Yeah, go into a any hardware store and you can't even find full component Hi-fi racks anymore. The best thing on offer are Bluetooth speakers and sound bars.
@svenschwingel86324 жыл бұрын
@@LogiForce86 yes, it is a sad reality. All the more important that we keep what we have well-maintained.
@AlexKarasev2 жыл бұрын
@@LogiForce86 A perfect match for what passes for music nowadays.
@peterregorsek1504 Жыл бұрын
@@LogiForce86 They sell what people want to consume most. You can still find small specialized hi-fi stores, where dealer knows what you are looking for.
@theschof962 жыл бұрын
Nakamichi truly were the epitomes of Japanese audio engineering. Technology and sound quality worth every penny.
@vinyllpcare36193 жыл бұрын
It is a mystery why this technology has not been adopted or licenced for use in modern high end turntables. When you consider the cost of modern high performance turntables from the likes of TechDas, SAT, Dohman, SME, VPI, Linn, Caliburn and a slew of others, it seems to me to be a significant omission not to have this or a similar facility in modern turntables costing five and six figure sums. Many brand new and used records have 'off centre' spindle holes that need correction. The round file diy system seem to be the only 'solution' that we have at present? There would be an additional cost of course, but if you are aiming at the absolute high end such a 'centring system' ought to be part of the design. It is ironic though that Japanese engineers (presumably) designed this system back in the day when 'off centre' records were probably extremely rare or perhaps non-existent from the domestic Japanese pressing plants, if our experience is anything to go by?
@naradaian Жыл бұрын
Its the cost which is prohibitive even for the ultra hi end - remember the whole heavy platter is being moved every rotation and at increasing frequency....they were on another plane these Nakamichis
@vwestlife7 жыл бұрын
You sound like John Davis of MotorWeek.
@DM-ns3vb5 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOOO THIS JUST MADE MY DAY
@rochditidjani6 жыл бұрын
When I first heard of this feature on the Nakamichi turntable I thought it was just a gimmick. However your video proved me wrong. This feature does make a difference in sound despite the heavy digitized compression through You Tube.
@ColocasiaCorm4 жыл бұрын
Would you shut up about the 'heavy digitized compression through You Tube.' Just shut up already. Please.
@RUfromthe40s3 жыл бұрын
it´s a really atractive feature but i can tell you that if it as a problem the repair would be expensive and sure to happen ,it´s the problem of some nakamichi features
@trevor245 Жыл бұрын
I personally can't hear any difference at all but the theory is somewhat sound, if probably a non issue. And even if did believe that this video showcased an audible difference, digital compression doesnt have any impact on wobbling notes of an instrument so it's either there or not wouldn't matter if it's digitized or analog. Still a very cool feature though.
@naradaian Жыл бұрын
Yes the clarity is almost beyond cd and certainly nicer...i have a linn and a garrard 401 and this is way way beyond them...but repairs on these are for millionaires
@rochditidjani Жыл бұрын
@@naradaian Yes I agree. I could never afford this table. Enjoy your Linn and Garrard.
@qualin19744 жыл бұрын
Back in the mid 80's, the retail price for this turntable was about $2200. That's roughly $5700 in today's dollars. I find it extremely irritating that today, in 2020, there are turntables selling for this price that positively primitive in comparison to this. (In some cases, they don't even have a speed control, you move a belt from one pulley to another.) There's no reason in my mind that for $6000, a turntable like this could be manufactured again combined with the highly advanced Sony Biotracer system, without selling for some absolutely absurd price. I guess these never had much of a market demand. All of the patents to these unique systems should have all expired by now.
@dwindeyer3 жыл бұрын
I think a turntable like this could easily be manufactured for far less than $6000 today. As well as being faster and smarter with the use of modern processors, sensors and actuators to move the turntable instead of the piston that this table uses. I think if one was to ignore the fluff and focus on technical achievement, 2000 USD would be doable. Sadly, any gear that goes a certain price point turns into a purity test and anything electronic or digital is rejected outright.
@HP_____2 жыл бұрын
There should be a separate device like an accessory that allows the centering system done on a customized stiff platter mat before placing it on the platter to play the record. If we can have a fancy record cleaning machine next to a turntable, we can have a centering machine next to it too! This way you don't have to change your favorite turntable. Yes, I do agree that turntables cost more than a small house should include this feature! PS, obviously turntables with a vacuum system would present a problem.
@agustinfernandogarciapicaz51833 жыл бұрын
Niro Nakamichi san, he's a genius
@manolokonosko594 Жыл бұрын
Why don't they make this anymore? It blows those $10K+ turntables out of the water.
@QoraxAudio5 жыл бұрын
Nice mechanism, more modern than 99% of modern turntables. I hope some day an engineer will start revolutionizing turntables again.
@Baerchenization4 жыл бұрын
There is a company reinventing the turntable every month.
@Gigidag778 ай бұрын
I wish this caught on. I have so many records that are off-center...
@SinnerSince19622 жыл бұрын
Great table if you have 6-8 grand to spend.
@daryleharris10215 жыл бұрын
Well, I wish this were available today. I am just getting back into vinyl and this would be an incredible improvement! Thanks for sharing.
@RUfromthe40s3 жыл бұрын
you just dodged a bullet there are better and will provide good sound for a living ,regards
@naradaian Жыл бұрын
I doubt 1% of the hifi owners on the planet could locate a service for these turntables let alone buy or pay the regular service bills
@georgeanastasopoulos58655 жыл бұрын
The Nakamichi Dragon in reincarnated into a turntable! Glorious.
@RUfromthe40s4 жыл бұрын
the dragon to cassetes isn´t nothing, the zx-9 is nuch better while recording cassettes but the dragon as a problem it´s auto -reverse function is far from keepings head centered or the azimuth alignement works a lot to keep it aligned far from comparing this turntable to others as perfect aligment
@rustymixer28863 жыл бұрын
Ever hear dragon slater by 🇬🇧 company?
@ColocasiaCorm Жыл бұрын
It doesnt fix out of round. It fixes off center. Nothing i know of has fixed out of round
@stevebennett97504 жыл бұрын
Nakamichi made two models that centered the record automatically. The Dragon CT and the TX-1000
@ggergm5804 жыл бұрын
You are right. The TX-1000, which was an auto-centering platter and a base with no arm, was the handbuilt, test-of-concept prototype. The Dragon-CT was the production model and actually manufactured to Nakamichi's specifications by Micro-Seiki, which made turntables for many companies back when. It's unknown how many TX-1000 platters were constructed and even more problematic, are still working today. I've only ever seen one for sale and that was decades ago.
@VRGRPK3 жыл бұрын
@@ggergm580 you are wrong! The TX-1000 was a production model that preceded the much less costly DRAGON CT. It incorporated a faster and slicker mechanism for 'Centre Search'.
@HP_____2 жыл бұрын
@@VRGRPK You are right!
@HerecomestheCalavera5 жыл бұрын
Why can't a high quality device like this be made today? In the 1980s there was some very high quality audio equipment. Yet now much of the audio equipment is junk
@Schlipperschlopper5 жыл бұрын
Because today everything has to be made in China or Bangladesh and these idiots cant manufacture functioning HQ gear so they keep it simple, not to say primitive...
@svenschwingel86325 жыл бұрын
Simple answer: planned obsolescence, coupled with the addiction of getting everything as cheap as possible.
@HerecomestheCalavera5 жыл бұрын
@@svenschwingel8632 Planned obsolescence is the biggest bunch of bullshit. It is amazing to me how many dead flatscreens there are. Yet just about any CRT TV from the 80s still works fine. I once found an RCA CRT from the 80s that had been sitting outside for over 10 years getting rained and snowed on. It was horribly dirty. I took it home and cleaned it up a bit and plugged it in and what do you know it powered on just fine! To be fair the colors were a bit off but for all I know that could have been the reason the original owners sat it outside. A friend of mine had a similar experience when he bought an old pickup truck that had a CRT TV in the bed that had been there for years and years. It also worked just fine, no problems at all with that one.
@Schlipperschlopper5 жыл бұрын
@@svenschwingel8632 Customers without brain and taste buying crap only
@svenschwingel86325 жыл бұрын
@@HerecomestheCalavera so true. Those old Sony CRTs worked like forever. Can't say that about their new flatscreens, though. Some of them won't even reach their MRSP rating. When you open them up, you'll find out that the manufacturer cut all kinds of corners with product quality (concerning longetivity), like using el-cheapo switches, insufficient heatsinks and whatnot. But hey: you gotta somehow drain that hard-earned currency from your customer's wallets, right?
@TechCrazy Жыл бұрын
Amazing engineering and precision.
@markstewart18073 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing incredible machine and great solution to coommon problem that no one ales as far as I know has addressed,they only concern is long term reliability and finding someone to fix if it goes wrong.
@yogi96312 жыл бұрын
Just a stunning machine.👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍
@ggergm5807 жыл бұрын
The cartridge is as old as the turntable. It's a Monster Cable Alpha 2, which was a low output moving coil made by Accuphase.
@RUfromthe40s4 жыл бұрын
well ,it´s good today as it was then, that was never improved ,from 1980 towards today evrything about hi-fi decreased only cd players get better as the c.e.c (chuodenki) beltdriven cd player that was incredible as anything made by chuodenki, but i think it wasn´t by the belt-driven unique in the world cd player but something else as when one listen to a 300€ cd player in early 90´s or a 1200€ cd player, mine only the laser after 25 years of use everyday and for a lot of years everyday and part of the night,cost me in germany 300€, because i live in portugal and they weren´t available there for 10 years, regards
@RUfromthe40s4 жыл бұрын
accuphase is very high quality brand that i only know a old integrated amplifier that my father bought in 1972 or 3 i´m not sure but i own it now ,when my father left us i received is high-fidelity system as is colection of records and reels all are jazz but incredible ones, my father and my greatparents were already in the 60´s fan´s of high-fidelity, i received 3 high-end systems one of them mono but still today as a great clean and detailed sound, and also have records that can´t be played with a diamond stylus it as a proper turntable with 2 speakers it sounds from another world, i did enjoy to see the turntable because i know the 70´s catalogs from nakamichi but nobody else that i know when talk about nakamichi they reply that they thought they only had cassette decks ,regards
@ColocasiaCorm2 жыл бұрын
do u do voiceovers for a living???
@louisgreen39152 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable. And I just saw one on ebay for £8000. If I had the money I wouldn't hesitate.
@ggergm5802 жыл бұрын
I saw that listing. It looks to be a superb example for sale but the price is double what I’ve seen a perfect Dragon-CT turntable sell for in the past. But who knows? I wish the seller good luck.
@robh90796 жыл бұрын
this has made the simplicity of the turntable a whole lot more complicated - though it is a very real problem and one it seems only addressed by Nakamichi...
@franimal0072 жыл бұрын
Not sure but Kyrocera may have shared that TT with their name on it.
@subbytights37095 жыл бұрын
Always suffered with massive amounts of noise, great turntable though.
@TheIwanttoapologize4 жыл бұрын
This very turntable can be seen paired with McIntosh equipment in 9 1/2 Weeks in Mickey Rourke's apartment. Beautiful turntable.
@dednside52294 жыл бұрын
This is a badass Table The problem with it is the existence Is other Japanese tables like the Sony PX-9 Kenwood L-07D Or micro Seiki , Which seems at these prices to make the auto centering just a hat trick
@TexTom198125 күн бұрын
I got to watch one of these tables work once...the dealer had an LP that was pretty out of round from the factory...it wasn't a Nak demo disk of any kind. To watch it measure and solve the rotational inaccuracies was amazing. And sonicaly? A fantastic piece of equipment. Just a marvel of engineering.
@paulpavlou92943 жыл бұрын
Great to see this table demo, thanks for putting the video up to share. I have the Nakamichi MC1000 reference pick up which is my favourite cartridge.
@AudioElectronicsChicago9 ай бұрын
Masterpiece 😍😍
@pcallas667 жыл бұрын
I do hear a slight deviation in the first part. If you didn't mention it, I may not have paid much attention to it. That cartridge sounds amazing, too. What is it? Thank you for sharing.
@robburnside66364 жыл бұрын
Never would have thought there was a difference, until I heard it here.
@Darrylizer12 жыл бұрын
One can find these on eBay for a reasonable 8000 US. Cough, cough.
@farleytaylor54939 ай бұрын
Correction reveals more treble and surface noise. That's good news.
@jaydunstan16184 жыл бұрын
Incredible, thank you for sharing!
@stingray72754 жыл бұрын
die hatten damals die genialsten Ideen, um aus Tonträger die Musik praziser herauszuholen, schade, das es die nicht mehr gibt.
@randyscott33865 жыл бұрын
Yeah , I asked my dog and he said it made a huge difference .
@TheChuvachishe5 жыл бұрын
ooouuu maza fukaaaaaaaa
@colloidalsilverwater15ppm882 жыл бұрын
Well, even me couldn't do it better and wiser.
@AshtonKishАй бұрын
Jesus christ, that's beautiful.
@I.T.C.K.L.M4 жыл бұрын
it's Excellent turntable!😍😍😍
@AlainHubert4 жыл бұрын
ALL turntables today should have this feature.
@RUfromthe40s3 жыл бұрын
today the have the less possible, kind of LEGO turntable, you need to buy everything that should be sold with the TT from the store, this even as quartz lock
@AlainHubert3 жыл бұрын
@@RUfromthe40s Yeah. But if vinyl records were pressed perfectly centered in the first place there wouldn't be a need for this centering feature anyway.
@RUfromthe40s3 жыл бұрын
@@AlainHubert yes but i´ve not had any problem with that because the needle goes where the groove is ,no problem in the sound they have tolerance for this kind of problem, maybe certain types of TT´s have problems with this but since the 70´s never heard a problem because the record is not 100% centered ,the problem is if the user doesn´t know how to tune the needle perfectely to read the grooves no matter if it dances a litle on top of the record,the angle where the tip of the needle is ,needs to be acurate not if the record is not at a 100% centered, there´s more to worrie if using this new wave of badly built turntables that cost real money as the PRO-JECT, and others from the same type
@RUfromthe40s3 жыл бұрын
@@AlainHubert yes it´s true but that´s how things go, they never worrie about correcting that, but it´s not a big problem ,doesn´t affect the quality of sound, regards
@RUfromthe40s3 жыл бұрын
and i own a dragon ct, the last turntable i bought but today i´m using a technics bought by my father in 76, it says all, regards
@andrewgardner83308 ай бұрын
Hi I didn't know Nakamichi made a turntable.. probably the best sound...👍
@kresimir73275 жыл бұрын
Not the only one. There is also the Nakamichi TX-1000.
@franimal0072 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong, but I think Kyocera also shared that turntable and had that also....very cool gimmick but I wonder, what came first the record that was "made" out of round at the factory, or did the record become out of round after purchasing it?
@taranagnew43611 ай бұрын
does it have bt/auracast?
@cosplay_hifi Жыл бұрын
very professional demo, great work, thz
@makyhsmakyhs67662 жыл бұрын
We need to know the deferences between that brand and the others because : its said that nakamitchi is class no. 1 in the Japanese audio technology.
@larryshaver35682 жыл бұрын
i CAN hear a difference
@bikeman7982Ай бұрын
That’s amazing.
@RobGordon352 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a table! Is it also a Nak. Cartridge on the arm? ~Peace
@paulrogers70672 жыл бұрын
Rega p10 kills it
@2521172 жыл бұрын
I have it. Super turntable. But it is malfunctioning. No one can service it. So disappointed
@ggergm5802 жыл бұрын
Talk to Chris at Pyramid Audio in Austin, TX. He repaired this one a few years ago.
@2521172 жыл бұрын
@@ggergm580 Many thanks. I live in Singapore. Kind of far.
@cosplay_hifi Жыл бұрын
Great Great Great demo , thankyou very much
@msvergara Жыл бұрын
AMAZING
@ledatech3 жыл бұрын
I want to know what has happened to those poor nautilui in the background
@berkahpowerindo88152 жыл бұрын
Luxurious Indexing table
@giuseppelavecchia7753 жыл бұрын
Un signor giradischi.suono perfetto!
@abrahamantoniosanchezrubio2664 жыл бұрын
El singular brazo del tornamesa Nakamichi dragón
@PIANOPICTURES3 жыл бұрын
I hear the pitch drifting.
@AB-hx9hs4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps I am missing something but I can't hear any difference and the record still looks to be off center while spinning which means the needle is tracking an off center record. Also, even if the record is slightly off center, doesn't the needle in the groove track and move along thus rendering this system as simply overkill and of no practical value ??
@JacobFrey4 жыл бұрын
You're seeing the LABEL moving around and thinking the record is off center. The arm is the part that should stay perfectly still and this system can accomplish that. The "needle" stays in the groove and tracks, but if you see the arm swaying side to side as the record turns, the pitch will go up and down because it's not tracking in a perfect circle - the circle gets bigger and smaller as the record rotates, which will mess with the pitch.
@akiusami79693 жыл бұрын
NaKamichl👍👍👍👍👍
@kimchee941126 жыл бұрын
Not known is how far it was off center. What was that at 2:11? Wife purchased that album on CD, played it a lot during the 80s in my truck with a portable CD player and power amp. That was before cars had CD players. Did anyone had a workable turntable in a moving car?
@jlsagely68925 жыл бұрын
Yes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWHLg617ns2miJY
@johnstark53246 жыл бұрын
Well I'll be damned! I have a Perl Jam 10 here that is needed on! You can see that sucker slinging the tone arm in and out and hear it as well!
@GradyWhite20076 жыл бұрын
If you only have a 200 dollar turntable...just light up a dubber...and pour a glass of wine or crack a beer...and the thing will sound just fine!
@SPAZZOID1006 жыл бұрын
Howard Mora ?????
@dwoodog6 жыл бұрын
amen brotha!
@DP-qp8wr4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant product. Thanks for posting it.
@stephen5794 жыл бұрын
Wow now that really is different
@jlsagely68925 жыл бұрын
But now, the controls will get dusty....
@paulomatematica99852 жыл бұрын
super!!!!
@twochaudiomg25784 жыл бұрын
it was never about the TT it was about the Dragon Cassette deck
@TheStorm13802 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@davidberkman4954 жыл бұрын
I owned one.
@bennsji15 жыл бұрын
Yess ... i can hear the difference before and after the correction of centre. Amaziiing turntable.
@chrismurphy73244 жыл бұрын
no you can not , centering will have no effect
@dwindeyer3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismurphy7324 I have to ask, on what basis do you say centering will have no effect? It's well known that off-center produces the "wow" speed variation and this turntable uses the locked groove as a reference to the original recording equipment, bypassing any off-center positioning in the production process.
@Manu_Nayar6 жыл бұрын
nice sound
@deandebone4 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@indigoTALKx6 жыл бұрын
cool ...
@swifty19696 жыл бұрын
what recording equipment did you use? it sounds incredible.
@ggergm5806 жыл бұрын
I used the basic mic in a cheap Canon camera. The stereo is a great one. That's what you're hearing.
@swifty19696 жыл бұрын
well! whatever mic Canon used, it's incredible. Please make dedicated lp recordings using the same mic.
@vindicari4 жыл бұрын
why do audiophiles always play crap music?
@massimilianolongo84187 жыл бұрын
HI please let me know the name of the album... thanks
@bl4ckh0lesun7 жыл бұрын
George Winston - December, Windham Hill Records, 1982
@cabasse_music6 жыл бұрын
love windham hill stuff. ira stein/russel walder, alex de grassi
@칸딘스키-m2v6 жыл бұрын
How much?
@Charlesb885 жыл бұрын
The Nakamichi Dragon-CT turntable is no longer manufactured so to get one you would have to buy one used. Currently there does not appear to be any being offered for sale at this moment, as they are somewhat rare, with an estimated 2,000 to 5,000 sold when they were still being manufactured. Original retail price of this turntable was $2000 in the U.S. so expect it to sell for twice as much as that on the used market (in 2016 one was being offered for $4500)
@viktor48605 жыл бұрын
silly 80´s gimmick
@fredbissnette31044 жыл бұрын
These would be great for djing long house music sets
@quelorepario5 жыл бұрын
For those who are still confused, compare the sound side to side: 1:53 and 3:53 If you still can't tell the difference, I am sorry but you are clinically deaf.
@VRGRPK3 жыл бұрын
This could be an excellent demonstration if you put the slightest care and respect for your viewers and used the same part on both playings. Instead the part after 'Center Search' started quite a while before the 1st part, and when it reached the first notes of the 1st part you just lifted the Tonearm!!!🙁 This made most people confused about the outcome...
@erichowarth74833 жыл бұрын
More pleasant comments from someone with too much time on their hands.
@Jammerk403 жыл бұрын
That is very cool! Who would ever thought of this? Well Nakamichi did!!
@RUfromthe40s3 жыл бұрын
a very bad job or their devices wouldn´t be constantelly out for repair ,if they ask a lot of money they should deliver better materials but they just care of making lot´s of money ,there are good brands who are expensive but they work properlly for a lot of years (a lifetime)those you never find them for sale ,why do you think that happens?regards and health
@coolmacho9755 жыл бұрын
Mega expensive and worthless turntable.
@xrdakis4 жыл бұрын
This record olayer has internal phono preamplifier, internal digitizer and usb?
@bgrimsle4 жыл бұрын
These were made in the mid 1980s, so USB was decades away from being invented. Of course no digitizer. Built in preamps existed but were very uncommon in turntables. This is vintage stuff.
@xrdakis4 жыл бұрын
@@bgrimsle This turntable is from 1980? This is in a style that looks modern.
@andrewpage63655 жыл бұрын
I want one 👍👍👍
@Ian_utero7 жыл бұрын
Hi- I just picked up one of these. The unit works as a record player but I'm not familiar with the centering aspect. After the centering arm goes out to the groove, is it all automatic after that? Or do you need to keep pushing buttons? Couldn't see in the video. Thanks!
@Ian_utero7 жыл бұрын
I should add after I push the reset button and then the center search button, the centering arm goes out and starts reading but does nothing else after that. So I suspect something isn't working right. My assumption is it should automatically center at that point? Any info would be great. Thanks.
@jakepurches91626 жыл бұрын
Yes. But if it isn't doing it its not working correctly. Try checking the power supply.
@VRGRPK3 жыл бұрын
You just bought a very expensive turntable without even knowing what it is and what it does? You either have bought it for an extremely low price for what it is or you may have so much money that 'throwing some way' it’s OK with you. And some advice: "Search the info you need to know at the Internet first, and if you can’t find what you need after a thorough search, then start asking people. Don’t waist people's time because you are lazy to find something out by yourself. Sorry 😞 for the tone, but I’m constantly meeting people like you who ask for info, help or advice, without trying first by themselves!
@erichowarth74833 жыл бұрын
@@VRGRPK Sorry for the tone? You sound like a real pleasant one. Of course I did a google search. I’ve owned record stores for the past 20 years and got one of these in a record collection buy...and asked a question over 3 years ago! The centering aspect ended up being broken but not being familiar or finding the info on a google search, I came to KZbin and asked. It’s not like technical info on this rare turntable was all over the web. I finally had a tech fix it and it found a good new home. Sorry for my tone. I’m just tired of people wasting (it’s spelled Waste not Waist btw) time by replying to comments from years ago without thinking through what someone may be asking about and why. You’re making a lot of assumptions in your reply which just makes you come across as a jerk and someone with too much time on their hands. So I wouldn’t be too worried about someone wasting your time. You didn’t even need to reply. 🤦🏻
@redl1ght14 жыл бұрын
Buy a technics ffs
@yuri0_1874 жыл бұрын
Nah I'd rather have a CT-DRAGON
@bohan99577 жыл бұрын
I hear zero differences
@joncan23486 жыл бұрын
Bo Han Some people are not able to hear nuances in sound.
@johnsweda29996 жыл бұрын
Bo Han play it again it takes the wobble out of the piano note
@redhotsonic6 жыл бұрын
To be perfectly honest, trying to hear a difference on KZbin isn't really going to work. You may hear a difference if he supplied 2 files for us to download; a before and after. But with KZbin's quality, I hear no difference either.
@jort93z6 жыл бұрын
There is a wobble, i agree. Might be hard to hear on youtube, make sure to use headphones. But it takes the wobble out for me. I mean, its not a great improvement, but you can tell.