NAP Advancement

[@IGobzter]

I'm not even a chemist but I love watching your stuff. It's rare for someone to address their audience like they're actually intelligent, no disclaimers or other bullshit. Glad to have you on the internet with the rest of us Dug.

[@antherthalmhersser7239]

Dugpont out here advancing sciences

[@ShortFuseMan]

Every new *beautiful upload* from Dugan is a *priceless blessing* from *God Himself.* *_Hallelujah mf!_* ✊️😎

[@seanjarnigan8978]

The dmt filter is an interesting touch

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

It was so cool seeing the first batch of uNAP being made! I’ve been making energetics for years and I’ve never seen anything with the kind of performance that the NAP series has.

[@BearValleyPyro]

Is the nickel carbonyl a big concern?

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@BearValleyPyro I haven't noticed anything but I'm also not inhaling the smoke. Outside of small testing if you're close enough to breathe the smoke you've probably got bigger problems than nickel carbonyl.

[@BearValleyPyro]

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 cool, I made some but was nervous about using it because 3ppm is a deadly dose they say and that's not very much. But also that the halflife is 40 seconds so it doesn't stick around long. Thanks.

[@BearValleyPyro]

​@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 mostly all I do is small testing lately with the occasional big one, I'll just stay back a bit instead of immediately running up to see the results like normal.

[@normellow]

He’s back ! Praise sweet baby Jesus !

[@barrymayson2492]

Thank you for the work and time you put in on these videos especially this one. I have retired from amateur chemistry i am too old and can't move quick enough to dodge the mistakes.

[@unluggy9434]

The Johnny Sins of explosives

[@rofliheli8614]

Lmao

[@dr.radical3426]

Encore! Thank you for your diligence.

[@CutlassOutdoors]

The style looks like reviewing video logs from an abandoned bunker after the zombie apocalypse, trying to piece together the last entries to figure out what happened. 😆 Great info, Dugan. Thanks!

[@11kungfu11]

Thanks Dug. The knowledge you can pass on in 20min is awesome. I like the edits.

[@markniemi3924]

This is a highly desirable and effective KZbin channel, I'm blown away.

[@ishnifusmeadle]

Lord im simpleminded....i appreciated the starburst foil shot

[@DLDafterDark]

Dude that is a massive development with those two new variants. Impressive shit man. Keep it up.

[@hammerarmament]

Outstanding video,Dug. I appreciate the effort you’ve put into this. This can be a dry topic but I love the way you present the info. It’s incredibly interesting.

[@timesgonetech3057]

Very interesting update. I'm currently developing my own primer compound for black powder percussion caps using NAP and tetrazene (with a few other chemicals) and will be trying a batch of iNAP this weekend. I'm excited to see how it works! Keep it up!

[@duganashley1337]

It looks really good, great work

[@timesgonetech3057]

@@duganashley1337 I am curious if you know, does the perchlorate leave behind any chloride residue, like maybe nickel chloride? Example, potassium perchlorate leaves a little potassium chloride as a by product when it burns.

[@duganashley1337]

@@timesgonetech3057 Yes it is possible that nickel chloride is a product, chlorine can also go to hydrochloric acid (HCl), for Nickel chloride there is only one Ni atom in the complex so it may be quite minimal. With iNAP the percentage of nickel is even smaller than standard NAP. My suggestion is to simply test in volume and see what the effects are. Please do let me know if you find it to be corrosive.

[@Yaivenov]

Would you classify an NAP primer cap as corrosive then?

[@twirlyturd4364]

My man got Kletka in the back ground 😎

[@tql1209]

Kletka - excellent choice of music. Hello from Russia 😁. Excellent energetic as well.

[@phenethylamine21]

My favorite KZbinr

[@tonydavid6356]

I'm new to amateur energetics in your videos are the bomb literally I believe I'm going to cut my teeth on you nap. You videos are incredibly informative and your sense of humor is spot on. Keep up the amazing work your doing. Thanks.

[@KA54the]

ah yes, non aggression principle crystals

[@jamesg1367]

Absolutely fascinating!

[@joeharvell3819]

Cant believe I just found you, awesome job man. Kindred spirit

[@Nuovoswiss]

I've done a lot of work with (re)crystalization of organic compounds. Have you tried crashing (micro/nano)crystals out by adding a small amount of freezer-cold 91% isopropanol to the aqueous reaction mix after the initial reflux (and waste solid removal)? Might achieve the same result without need for sonication. Also a paste mix of small-crystal NAP and nitromethane would up the density (NM liq fills voids between crystals), and even out the oxygen balance (so no pesky Ni-carbonyl), though god only knows how unstable that paste would be.

[@BearValleyPyro]

Is the nickel carbonyl a huge concern when working with less than 100mg ? That would be the most I would set off at one time. I love this stuff but that is always in the back of my mind. Thanks

[@Nuovoswiss]

@@BearValleyPyro 100mg might be iffy in an enclosed space, especially with repeated exposure. I knew people that worked with Ni Carbonyl for research stuff and their running joke is that more than a few people know what nickel carbonyl smells like, but none have lived long enough to tell anyone else. Jokes aside, IIRC has some nasty carcinogenic properties so even with amounts that small I wouldn't want to set it off indoors.

[@BearValleyPyro]

@@Nuovoswiss Ok, I haven't done that It's been all amounts +-50mg which is plenty for what I use it for, always outdoors and I give it time for the smoke to drift away. I am interested in what you said about if you oxygen balance NAP then the Ni-carbonyl wouldn't be there ? Since it is oxygen negative would mixing an oxygen positive substance with it . . . Say ETN balance it out ? Thank you 👍

[@Nuovoswiss]

@@BearValleyPyro Huh, I'm thinking I misunderstood the oxygen balance. If the formula for NAP is CN4H6Ni(ClO4)2 , then detonation should produce CO2 + 3H2O + 2N2 + NiCl2 with 3 oxygen atoms left over , that's a fairly positive oxygen balance and so shouldn't produce any carbonyl?

[@BearValleyPyro]

@@Nuovoswiss that makes me feel better . . . I am not that smart. Thank you for doing that man, that was really nice of you. 👍 I really like NAP allot so I hope the math is right because it's fairly easy to make, it's flame sensitive and non hydroscopic and also storage stable. The one downside was that pesky Ni-carbonyl. Thanks again . . . I'll have to teach myself how to do those calculations.

[@derekturner3272]

Another small suggestion. Switching out the Ni salt for the acetate of equivilent molar weight in Isopropanol will delay crystalization until it cools below 50c or so. It would give you the opporunity to ultrasonicate the product as it crashes out to yield nearly 100% of a very fine product. In theory... Becuase I would never mess with stuff like this just to explore the science.

[@TrayW]

Bro yo explanations of the chemistry in your videos is great thank you I find the properties of energetics quite fascinating

[@jonballard4453]

Very interesting to see the effects of the ultrasonic treatment. I guess time will tell just how important frequencies actually are and the effects they potentially have on many many different things..beyond what has already been revealed. thanks.

[@seventeenshaun6424]

Right? I personally probably never would have guessed that using frequencies would help induce certain crystal formations, along with how fast the crystals form.

[@theinternetis7250]

Lookin good Dug, bald looks good on you

[@alllove1754]

I'm willing to bet you could explore the alcohols, given isopropanol. Methyl, ethyl, propyl, butyl, pentyl (sometimes called "amyl") and the reason I listed those is that that is that they are in numerical order by the amount of carbon in each alcohol. Methyl has one, ethyl 2 and so on. I'm willing to bet that each alcohol would express itself through the sensitivity of the substance. I believe meNAP would be more sensitive than iprNAP. Typically, also, the higher the size of each mono crystal the higher the sensitivity. Channel "reactivechem" explained that (if I remember). Thanks for an awesome video of a substance I haven't ever even heard of! ❤

[@duganashley1337]

That's a good thought. I had also considered this but I wasnt able to get it to complex with other alcohols. I also started testing alcohol amines, but gave up on it because the common dilute IPA is so widely available, and it works so well. What is interesting about the IPA, is that when the proportions are increased to 50 ml 90%IPA, the iNAP complex doesnt form, it is just a clear liquid, then standard NAP complex crystallizes over the next 24 hours. It is necessary that the ratios are specific, only about 35-40 ml IPA per g AGu ratio. Very particular for some reason.

[@alllove1754]

@duganashley1337 good to know, and thank you for responding and so fast. I guess this is a case of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and when I saw how safe the iNAP was vs the NAP (reminded me of those little pops naps in sensitivity, but dangerous instead). It would be cool to see the amyl alcohol version. And ita really cool that you tried the alkyl amines to see if they'd combine/complex. The perchlorate primaries are fairly scary in sensitivity but fun to watch.

[@duganashley1337]

@@alllove1754 I never really tested amines much at all. It could be a more desirable product for all I know. I didnt test a lot of alcohols. I would guess they would work too like you suggested. I just stuck with IPA due to it being over the counter.

[@alllove1754]

@duganashley1337 that's very understandable. That being said where im at they have two different alcohols available for rubbing alcohol, although home depot where I live isn't much farther and they have denatured (and probably a bunch of other stuff I don't know about). You are one of THE VERY FEW that knows some wild chemicals as the desired product. I enjoy your videos. You explain a lot more than I had previously known about how one could even KNOW about these obscure primaries. You could come up with one. Some of those tetrazoles could double as fertilizer and in years to come, triple as that and medicine as well. Won't be surprised.

[@duganashley1337]

@@alllove1754 I did try denatured alcohol. I found it acts as a solvent medium and slows down crystallization. I did not see any complexation with it.

[@grimbo692]

Great song

[@charleschidsey2831]

Oi mate. During your intro, I thought I was having a flashback to a ‘70’s purple sunshine acid trip.

[@Microwavingmetal]

It's great to see you back Dug.

[@TheGoodChap]

Waiting for explosions and fire to make NAP. And youre a serious enough chemist to have a good interview with hamilton

[@duganashley1337]

no thanks

[@NOBOX7]

Advanced studies have shown the proper aluminum particle size can increase the detonation velocity of some explosives . Just powdering up aluminum doesnt cut it , there are macroscopic events that promote an optimal particle size and distribution . In pottery , a potter may try 100 variations of a glaze on test coupon's at different fire rates and temps . Expect nothing less for perfection in this field . testing 40 to 50 batch variations is an absolute must to get good eyes on the situation . I cant try this stuff any more ... Try using a big clay witness block for testing very small samples for power , this way subtle increases or decreases in power are amplified by the soft clay body . Like 5 mg or something small on the clay .

[@CanadaGunTube]

Rifle primers come to mind.

[@xml7sxGaming]

oh boy... i need more Dug in my life

[@Reject_Modernity1776]

You look well Dug. Hope all is well man.

[@everythingballistic8812]

At what point is the energetics community going to have more advanced energetics than most militaries. Ik with some things we already do but it seams like the military's gave up on improvements once they found something that worked good enough.

[@ShortFuseMan]

We are already in the pertinent stages of surpassing standard-issue, international military energetic materials, and we are on the razor’s edge of next-generation primaries. Even I myself have created new coordination complex primary explosives based on nickel cores alone that meet as well as exeed the performance of Nickel Aminoguanadine Perchlorate, such as NSP ❲Nickel Semicarbazide Perchlorate❳, NCP ❲Nickel Carbohydrazide Perchlorate❳, NOP ❲Nickel Oxalyldihydrazide Perchlorate❳, NBP ❲Nickel Biurea Perchlorate❳, and AzoNAP ❲Nickel Azodicarbonamide Perchlorate❳.

[@everythingballistic8812]

@@ShortFuseMan How much knowledge of chemistry does one have to acquire to be able to do this? I think this would be a fun hobby but would not want to have to spend the next 5 years learning prerequisites.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@everythingballistic8812 to make a few of these? Barely any but I’d recommend watching a lot of KZbin chemistry videos and reading extensively on sciencemadness about the topic, then repeat to make sure you understand the dangers. The problem arises when you’re unable to see a possible bad interaction. We don’t get many mistakes with these compounds. Always work on a small scale, preferably around a gram or two for primaries which are more sensitive by their nature.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@ShortFuseMan I’ve done some reading on some of the semicarbazide and carbohydrazide primaries but getting the raw materials seems difficult. I can make aminoguanidine at home in a couple of different ways, can you point me towards syntheses for semicarbazide or carbohydrazide?

[@ShortFuseMan]

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 In recent years, I have procured various hydazines, obviously including the free base monohydrate and the material requiring treatment in this case, urea free base ❲widely avaliable and extremely inexpensive❳. Depending on the conditions and extent of your hydrazine treatment on urea, you can obtain both semicarbazide and carbohydrazide. The main issue is acquiring hydrazine, but thankfully, there are a couple of sources out there that can be exploited to obtain it in an acceptable manner.

[@floridanick]

Really cool stuff with the ultrasonics. Makes me wonder how other frequencies would react

[@nikoivan2580]

Great video and also archived

[@TargetShooterFun]

Is it Aminoguanidine hydrochloride or bicarbonate?

[@ShortFuseMan]

The bicarb salt is used ideally here.

[@thatoneguy454c]

Fan-fuckin-tastick. You are one of the of all time, that's for sure.

[@oleggozhenko1821]

Isopropyl nickel aminoguanidine perchlorate

[@johngotna]

Have you tried ultrasonic and isopropyl for synthesis? IUNAP?

[@_Kommissar_]

For in a blasting cap for RDX would you recommend iNap or uNap?

[@jwatterson69]

You're on the Cutting Edge

[@nikoivan2580]

Every video is archived

[@everythingballistic8812]

@@nikoivan2580 where?

[@whitephosphorus15]

@@everythingballistic8812 To my hard drive

[@everythingballistic8812]

@@whitephosphorus15 Oh, nice!!!

[@synth1002]

Please make video on HMX, Octogen.

[@rickt10]

Since the isopropyl method seemed more efficient, have you tried sonicating an iNAP batch?

[@wjbrooks19]

That intro/montage has NIN/Closer vibes.

[@two-six5756]

perfectly disorienting

[@HowItWorks]

Nice.

[@billcrowell5096]

Do you see any of these NAP variants becoming useful for ammunition primers as a replacement for lead azide and other materials? The nickel compounds would be much less toxic after firing than lead and mercury alternatives. It also appears that there is much less toxic liquors produced in this reaction as byproducts.

[@duganashley1337]

I dont think it would be the best choice for ammunition based on products. iNAP seems to be a very close replacement to lead azide in explosive applications. standard NAP seems too brisant.

[@billcrowell5096]

@@duganashley1337 Thanks for the reply. I was considering iNAP buffered with PTFE. I'm thinking of the Great Primer Shortage. I never thought that one would need to consider rebuilding primers...

[@bencapobianco2045]

Would it change much if you ultrasonicated the iNAP?

[@eagleshunter2975]

Your video is very informative

[@JaenEngineering]

Now I'm curious, what would the result be if you used the uNAP method with iNAP reagents...

[@guytech7310]

There is a small risk of ignition using IPA (or any flammable solvent) with an ultrasonic cleaner because of cavitation. Maybe if the IPA is diluted with water prior to ultrasonic.

[@JaenEngineering]

Don't think cavitation within the volume of the mixture is the issue, however there is a significant risk due to the emission of large amounts of flammable vapour from the surface. This is easily mitigated by keeping the area well ventilated and ensuring there's no sources of ignition nearby.

[@derekturner3272]

Seems to me there may be two different compounds. Using water as a solvent, you get bright and large crystals while the isopropyl proceedure yields amophous powder. I think I also saw the fact that a substantial amount of the Nickel salt remains unreacted using water. It's possible that in water, you have Ni Bis-aminoguanidine diperchlorate and the isopropyl allows for a smaller Ni Aminoguanidine diperchlorate. That may explain the differneces and the fact that so much nickel remains when produced in water.

[@duganashley1337]

They are definitely different complexes. It appears that there is either isopropyl group attached, It's possible to use IPA as a solvent to produce NAP in the normal way, rather than the other complex. It's also possible to drop out the iNAP complex and recompose into NAP. SO it appears it is likely a complexation with at least one isopropyl group. Im waiting on some professional research to analyze. No one is interested yet

[@derekturner3272]

@@duganashley1337 There is a channel called MooreAnalytical that popped up a while ago. I actually reached out to him on a compound and got a reply, buy no activity past that. Might be worth a ping. Great stuff. Love the content and the style. In the previous comment you spoke of recomposing. Have you cracked disolving the target and recrystalizing? I have yet to see anyone crack that in a compelling way. It would help to close the triangle and lend credence to one theory or the other. Thanks!

[@Yaivenov]

Have you tested combining the ultrasonication with the IPA substitution?

[@Michael-bn2nl]

Dug just a quick question dude is a chlorate version of this viable? Or perchlorate only.

[@duganashley1337]

I would be weary to attempt a chlorate analogue but imagine it is likely viable as a primary explosive. It would be lower power.

[@TargetShooterFun]

Can KCIO4 be used instead of NH4Cl04 ?

[@dannybell926]

What is the other hosting platform that isnt taking down these vids? I saw it mentioned in a video but cant remember which one. Was odyssey or something like that

[@GenoMartinez93]

Duger we need a shituation stream really bad man.

[@HateGoogie-ez5cf]

Awesome! Thanks for the publication of this research!

[@joetaylor486]

Excellent information Dug. I wonder if sonication has a broad utility in modifying crystallisation generally?

[@thisaccount7632ijn]

Special request. Could you go over your preferred method of nitric acid synthesis?

[@HowItWorks]

Hello Dug. I managed to synthesize uNAP. Thank you for this idea and video. After the ultrasonic bath I got a beautiful orange powder. But after that I ran into a problem. I had a deep glass and had to add distilled water to extract the powder. I poured the contents into a funnel made of filter paper and began to wait for the water to separate. After 10 minutes the water went away. But I noticed that the powder had partially turned black. What could have gone wrong? Why is the powder so unstable? Could you please help me figure this out? I tested the "dirty" powder without waiting for it to dry completely and it is still very powerful, but I am concerned about its instability.

[@HowItWorks]

In addition, I will say that I used pure chemicals with the exception of nickel carbonate. I made nickel carbonate myself because I couldn’t buy it. I used pure nickel nitrate and baking soda. The mixture was boiled until the carbon dioxide gone and washed a couple of times. Perhaps this substance was not pure enough. But what's strange. After the ultrasonic bath the substance was fine. It began to turn black when exposed to water on the filter paper. I do not know why.

[@duganashley1337]

​@@HowItWorks The reaction seems simple because of the simplicity of mixing stuff in water, in this method, but it 's not simple, just appears that way now due to simple instructions. People have been working on it for about five years. It is a sensitive balance. The complex reacts with water. If you see black it's because the breaking of complexation and decomposition of aminoguanidine. When water is loaded with the reagents in solution, it creates a stasis balance where the crystallization takes place with limitation to reactivity paths. If the material is removed from that and put in a new solvent, it will react with it.

[@HowItWorks]

@@duganashley1337 Yes. Looks like you're right. The concentration of substances in the solvent affects the process of complex formation. Any changes in concentration lead to disruption of the complex formation process. After the basic synthesis, I was left with two glasses with different liquids. One glass contains the mother liquor (without adding water), and the other glass contains the liquid after filtering. The next day I found black liquid in the glass of liquid after filtering. Everything was fine in the mother solution and an additional amount of substance was formed. I observed something similar with the CHP. The formation of the complex is not as simple as we would like. I wonder how stable this complex is? Perhaps over time it will lose its properties. Perhaps decomposition products will speed up the decomposition process.

[@duganashley1337]

@@HowItWorks Yes it can decompose if the complex isnt made correctly. There have only been samples being stored for a few years, so it's unknown storage longevity. So far two years, for NAP and iNAP. If made incorrectly, 6 months or less. It will begin to turn from red to brown and will start to exhibit deflagration instead of detonation. So it is simple to tell what is going on.

[@HowItWorks]

@@duganashley1337 Half a year is very little. I kept the HMTD for about the same amount of time without any visible changes. But I'm not a fan of peroxides. I also kept the LA for more than half a year. After half a year it became less active and less sensitive to fire.

[@Durkamoo]

Could you possibly do some testing using recovered spent rifle or pistol primers? I feel this has potential

[@ninja5672]

What happens if you used IPA as solvent for uNAP? Would it change crystal structure, or could you gain the quick dry time improvement with the same result?

[@DashVT]

Would you see any increase in iNAP yields by allowing the reaction mixture to stand overnight rather than filtering immediately after heating?

[@_Kommissar_]

Also what do you think of NHN?

[@clytle374]

Does anyone know which video he discusses a second place to find him?

[@NapalmZ88]

would the uNAP method work with lead azide to reduce crystal size? this would eliminate the need for advanced methods using dextrin.

[@tomoyaokazaki6021]

Quick download it before it goes down

[@PJHamann1]

How many lists did I end up on by watching the whole video?

[@colin351]

How do you know isopropanol is forming a complex and not simply acting as an antisolvent that forces a more amorphous powdery product to drop out?

[@duganashley1337]

It's possible to drop out the isopropyl groups, it then recomposes into the native NAP complex. It is also possible to produce the standard complex in IPA, simply increase the quantity of IPA to around 50 ml, iNAP will not form, but NAP will form on standing.

[@scruffy2629]

Great nap track :)

[@ZulersX]

can someone link up some reaserch on NAP? i cant find anything

[@duganashley1337]

This is the research

[@duganashley1337]

or on SM

[@ShortFuseMan]

Greetings, random Polish person. Dugan is correct about the aforementioned. The energetic compound known as NAP, its variations, and similarly related explosive coordination complexs are on the razor’s edge of advanced primary explosive developments and exhibit exceptional advantages capabilities. Due to the fact that they are very new and ill-explored, you will have a significantly hard time discovering papers on the subject without investing certain closed sources. This intriguing family of strategic energetic materials is very compelling, and there is truly no doubt that further research and experimentation are pertinently warranted.

[@thenorm8489]

love the intro

[@cheesescrust5399]

Dugan, what is the spray solvent at the end to get the remaining crop out of the vessel and onto the filter? Is that 91% IPA or is that Acetone? Thanks buddy!

[@duganashley1337]

It's just water

[@JW-zs9bk]

nap?🤔

[@ShortFuseMan]

▪︎ Никель (бис)аминогуанадиния (ди)перхлорат *››* _❲это вещество представляет собой недавно созданный чрезвычайно высокоэффективный энергетический материал первичного взрывчатого координационного комплекса❳_

[@HyperHyena88]

You are testing this stuff on concrete, Is this in a garage? Are you not worried about the carbonyl in these low amounts?-

[@duganashley1337]

I suspect Ni(CO)4 is not actually a product in normal circumstances.

[@anchopanchorancho]

I have access to a few papers about UNAP that have been submitted recently. Of course its ITAR restricted data so they arent hanging anything on the web.

[@privateassman8839]

Infinitely Twisted Ass Rape?

[@duganashley1337]

I would be really surprised. I published initial findings only a couple weeks ago.

[@normellow]

@@duganashley1337 Dug where are you buying your Amino from ? Everywhere I look it’s expensive!

[@ArtificialEquestrian]

​@@normellowDug simply creates it himself from his surplus of nitroguanadine via reduction if the nitroimine groups

[@ArtificialEquestrian]

​@@normellowThen he converts it to the bicarbonate salt so that it can react completely with ammonium perc. for the NAP synthesis protocols

[@Silver-bz1ss]

Why don't you use lead azide it's easy to get very powerful?

[@duganashley1337]

I use lead azide, silver azide, SADs, AgNTz and sometimes PbNATz.

[@武装韭菜]

what is NAP?

[@Lionman-rw7xb]

Dug have you ever tried to recrystalise NQ with ultrasonic?

[@duganashley1337]

I have not, It should work for any material. For NQ I would drip in water during crys. It should totally disrupt needle formation. SHould be dense.

[@duganashley1337]

I can try it tonight

[@duganashley1337]

I tried it, it does appear to work, but only with intense ultrasonication. If you had a large high wattage ultrasonic machine I think it would work well.

[@Lionman-rw7xb]

@@duganashley1337 Hmmm. Sounds interesting.

[@Lionman-rw7xb]

Most likely its sensitivity will increase by increasing its surface area

[@BearValleyPyro]

How big of a concern is the nickel carbonyl ? You mentioned it a little bit bu saying just don't detonate it in the trunk of a car and you should be fine or something like that . . . Or in your butthole 😂 I see your doing your impact and friction tests on concrete and you are close, does it not matter with that small of a quantity? Like less that 100mg, like what would be in a detonator ? That is the most ill probably ever set off. I love the stuff but this is always in the back of my head. Thanks

[@duganashley1337]

I don't think it is produced as a reaction product. Ni(CO)4 is dangerous, so it was a big deal because this one guy on science madness claimed it without data backing it up, so everyone has been operating under that assumption for safety. I'm just relaying to people the possible dangers. You assume your own risk. It is a higher risk field so if you are concerned about something and unprepared for it, you should always listen to your gut and not use it. There are people in this field that poison themselves to death in their labs. It has happened a few times to known people.

[@BearValleyPyro]

@@duganashley1337 thanks 👍 3ppm for 10 minutes is probably way more than can be produced by amounts of 50 mg or so for a cap, that is the most I do. The first time I didn't hear the 3ppm for TEN MINUTES part, I just heard 3ppm and got nervous. That would be hard to do, like you said you would have to be in a small space and stay there for a while to get that exposure. If your outside it shouldn't be that big of a deal with the amounts mentioned anyway. Thanks for the reply that made me feel better about it. 👍

[@NOBOX7]

dont you mean 200 F ? you keep saying extremely high temps . 200 c is like way hot for a reaction . I think you even said 270 c ? surly you cant heat this reaction to 200 c , its impossible ... Asking for a friend

[@duganashley1337]

hey no box, big fan. You just want to keep away from 270 C. It will detonate at that temp. There are no temp degradation tests so it's unknown how long it remains stable at various lower temps. If a person runs out of solvent on the hotplate, and cranks the hot plate, if it exceeds 270 C it will detonate. I just want to give people fair warning in case they hadnt considered this.

[@Dan-vq4pz]

Dug, I'm sorry I know you hate subscribers but my question from between the first NAP video and this second one is-it's supposed to get removed from water ASAP (in a few hours) per the first video, but in this one you say it's okay to let it sit and crystalize? I can't read German and I don't trust translation apps so I didn't consult the original source material (sorry)

[@duganashley1337]

The complex reacts with water. It was assumed that water would destroy the complex because thats what happens if you drop NAP into warm water. It's not the case. When the reaction proceeds, it has a protective mechanism which prevents this for a long time. 24 hours sitting in reaction water is no problem. It will yield additional product slowly.

[@Dan-vq4pz]

@@duganashley1337 I really appreciate your research and you getting back to me so quickly (kinda in the middle of something right now, I put a video up, lol), thanks dude.

[@Dan-vq4pz]

@@duganashley1337 I pitched an additional 0.25g of my pottery-grade NiCO3 after weighing my waste. Based on my experience I've been throwing away about that much dross when finishing my syntheses. I want to figure out how to purify this pottery-grade stuff to something that's quality. I'd like to use these as a single-constituent primer compound. I like the idea of uNAP (equipment on the way)

[@duganashley1337]

@@Dan-vq4pz If you metathesize it with another Ion then purify, then return it to carbonate, it will clean it up. There are many other ways of producing the complex. The use of the metal carbonate is not from the original patent, but part of the development to make the explosive easily accessible. The founding patent uses HClO4 and Ni(ClO4)2. The use of pottery grade NiCO3 can introduce impurities, depending on what's in it. The unreacted nickel carbonate is I believe the product of a delicately balanced complex, being low yield. It is extremely delicate. For instance, in iNAP complex, 35 ml IPA at one gram AGu gives excellent yield. The same proportions but 50 ml IPA doesnt proceed the same at all. It doesnt produce iNAP.

[@andrej552]

А какая у него гидролитическая устойчивость?

[@sellerguru-oq3ix]

Love i that this an amateur product

[@scorpiistar]

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[@briantw7096]

🦇💩nice work

[@tomoyaokazaki6021]

Is your camera broken?

[@andrewschneck4404]

Does it matter if you use 91% IPA vs 100% IPA?

[@airspaceincursion]

there is no 100% isopropanol, whatever semantics semantics who cares. but yeah use 99%. you can find it along side 91% most of the time.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

91% is cheap and easily available. It’s worked every time I’ve tried it.

[@darianballard2074]

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 I buy it as car dry gas. 😁

[@ShortFuseMan]

No, using fully anhydrous isopropanol makes little overall difference in these contexts. Though, you should note that classic 1-propranol and hot 𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘵-butyl alcohol are also acceptable matrixing solvents for augmentation of this energetic coordination complex.