Narmer: The First King of Upper and Lower Egypt?

[@jameskirk8274]

Professor Silverman has a lot a lot of great info, I just wish I was hearing him speak like 10 years ago, the number of sentences he didn't finish and little things bugged me much

[@erikprank4611]

Wasn't there some kind of early list of kings in the tomb of pharaoh Den, that included the name of Narmer?

[@erikprank4611]

found a Wikipedia link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den_seal_impressions

[@jrockland4057]

You'll find a list of pre-dynastic Kings on the Palermo Stone which is in the Regional Archeological Museum Antonio Salinas in the city of Palermo, Italy. The pre-dynastic kings of lower Egypt listed on the Palermo Stone are as follows: Imikhet, Wenegbu, Niheb, Tiu, Itjiesh, Khaiu, and Seka.

[@jameskirk8274]

I think that's like dynasty 0 or prior, now considered

[@keithpayne9687]

At about 1:01 you mention a former student who is now at the MET, in particular you reference an artcle she has written about Narmer's Kilt and the bead work. But you never meention her or the paper by name. Could please do one or the other or both. I am very interested to here what she has to say about Narmer's kilt. Thank you in advace, an very inspiring presentation, I learned much.

[@keithpayne9687]

Which post and I will gladly make good.

[@lamarlemmons9122]

Who are those people under foot on Narmer’s tablet and where are they from?

[@vecvan]

well, that time of poorly recorded audio from tele-presentations is hopefully gone now..

[@arturovelarde7560]

Nice.

[@jasonbyrum5648]

Lord Byron pharaoh Egyptian king I am

[@jamiewilson1817]

WOW!!¡!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ChillVanille]

What a great topic and to have it destroyed with a horrible lecturer and even worse audio.

[@leob.venzen1153]

when Narmer united the Two Lands, egypt did Not exist! However, Kmt did!! If, you are going to tell any part of the story of Afrika, tell It right!! Asante sana!

[@eugenemartone7023]

Don’t be silly! We use the modern name of countries when talking about history all the time, and Km.t is pretty analogous to modern Egypt in terms of geography. Changing the name of a land or city depending on what period we’re talking about is just needlessly complicated and confusing, while serving next to no purpose. Maybe all talks about Egypt should be held in ancient egyptian or rather coptic as we’re not really sure how the first is pronounced (including the word Km.t)?

[@eugenemartone7023]

@Dragon Of The West Not much of a point then.

[@keeperoftruth5951]

Wez wuz kangz

[@lamarlemmons9122]

When we were Kings!

[@conceitedperson78]

we... know. we know it was Khmet, that was Egypt. We don't call them by their reigning names, and we don't say they're in the Dwat, we say they're dead. It's ok, you live in 2023, you're guessing as well as us.

[@matthiasstrunz1343]

Sometimes its better to let someone speak who can acutally speak 🤦🏻

[@daveandhelenkirkland6898]

Or actually spell

[@jrockland4057]

The information these so-called scholars are working with is very scant... very, very, very scant. This leads to wild imaginings. A few found scribbles here and there add up to pretty much nothing.

[@russellmillar7132]

This is usually the case with prehistoric investigations where there are no written records. The excavations that this fellow takes us through (painstakingly) which show context for the imaginings you mention are real structures that have been sifted through for the most minute scrap of artifact to put the puzzle together. This is challenging work. It requires attention to the smallest detail being that, as you said, the physical evidence they have is scant. He points out, honestly, that due to the propensity of various compilers of the king's list to omit or delete certain rulers, for political/personal reasons, they have to admit a healthy level of uncertainty in claiming that Narmer was the 1st. It is fortunate that there were later written records that, once translated, have given some chance at tracing dynastic lineage.

[@vecvan]

the presentations assume a more constructive stance of course and they tend to know what they don't know so to speak. there is a wealth of information that is widely dispersed and the way the piece it together can be quite amazing. incomplete? Yes.As it were the perspective lies in the eyes of the beholder.

[@ketchupcommander]

Your expert David P. Silverman, Ph.D., is completely incorrect about everything he said. EVERYTHING.

[@SPQR748]

The Narmer Pallet shows Narmer harvesting adrenaline to drink from the head of a drugged enemy

[@rhetoric5173]

where is the evidence that these are borrowings? Perhap's the presenter's ethnic bias is at play.

[@georgecoyte7247]

Upper Egypt is America

[@Antea13]

Where is that wonderful school you graduated?

[@ryananthony4840]

Upper America is in India

[@georgecoyte7247]

The cobra and the vulture the vulture is a symbol of America

[@kgspvgsp7569]

That voice, ur dying?