Narrated Thought Duels - Pike - Elden Ring

[@NikFlyer]

God I love these narrated videos. Brings so many memories of the old dark souls days.

[@pinip_f_werty1382]

That was like the golden age of souls

[@bloozism]

The only reason I subscribe to this channel

[@hospitalbomber91]

do you remember martyrsbrigade lmao

[@Neronlive]

Yes

[@jjortiz7504]

Feels like yesterday when I used to watch these type of vids from DS3

[@anothernamelessundead]

that 'ye' guy is my fav kind of souls player. unique setup, unusual attack patterns, fire parry, dude is on his own wavelength

[@Pepe-pq3om]

Not dark souls

[@Comicus_]

23:10 He didn't really poise through stomp here, he had the Physick that stops him from being staggered by anything

[@ScottJund]

oh look at that, youre right.

[@ashens0ul]

I like that the pike is actually the longest spear in elden ring. In all the other games it says it's the longest spear in the description but then it's not lol.

[@hhlptf]

I was also impressed when i equipped it and despite its underwhelming nature it is really long which is its sole purpose so its got that

[@stockingsstuffer6302]

@Cert i think pate's longspear was longer, lul.

[@thelocdesiringentryintoyou3686]

@@stockingsstuffer6302 Important to consider how the character grips it though. Even if pates may be longer, is it’s effective range longer? Spear length has always been weird in these games with your character pretty much wasting half the length of most of them

[@stockingsstuffer6302]

@@thelocdesiringentryintoyou3686 you are talking to 2000 hours of dsII man, I can almost promise you pates was longer everything taken into consideration

[@thelocdesiringentryintoyou3686]

@@stockingsstuffer6302 same I just don’t know on this honestly. I should check the actual hit box data on it. Doesn’t pates just outright do more damage as well?

[@yesididitverywell]

There's something so satisfying about that armor with that weapon, looks clean af

[@snipetysniper]

The helmet (Pretty much an open face Burgonet) is THE quintessential pikeman helmet

[@Longsword.]

@@snipetysniper So that's what it's called. thanks :)

[@darylhall3858]

Ghosts and Goblins vibe

[@SahnigReingeloetet]

Would be one of my favorite armor sets if not for the prickly scales

[@sonork]

I bet the guy at the end drank his HP flask then was like... "oh wait this is a duel, i fucked up" Then proceeded to try and leave/kill them self.

[@dylanairey8492]

Storm stomp into R2 might be a timing issue too. The time the combo worked it looked like the opponent got caught by the tail end of the lingering hitbox, while the other times they were hit earlier in the stomp.

[@ScottJund]

yeah i noticed that watching it again, seems kinda latency and inconsistent based

[@ReavenM1911A1]

@@ScottJund based on what

[@taculo3231]

@@ReavenM1911A1 based on my balls

[@Arclor]

@Scott Jund probably latency-based. The storm stomp-R2 combo is likely at the very edge of what's a true combo with zero latency, so just 5-10 frames of latency is all it takes

[@superceilingfan9741]

@@Arclor seems to be the same case as with Flaming Strike. Landing a delayed hit gets the true combo, so you get hella reward for using it when they approach. Probably true combos regardless on 0 lat tho- if Glintstone pebble is a true combo, the others should be too

[@thomaskopv2366]

I enjoy this much more than poise builds. Makes it feel like a tradition fighting game a little

[@Veilyn]

you realize he is a poise build right? anything about 50 poise is enough to poise everything - edit by everythingI mean anything below greatsword archtype

[@ScottJund]

@@Veilyn thats not even remotely true. with 50 poise pretty much the only hit you can poise through is a 1h sword or dagger

[@wollsmoth69]

@@Veilyn "by everything I actually meant pretty much nothing, same thing"

[@Filet_Mignon22]

@@wollsmoth69 well at 58 poise he can tank 1 curve sword , dagger , straight sword , katana , and some ashes of war a decent amount of weapons

[@main_rouge]

@@Filet_Mignon22 Only one handed for most of them

[@luisalberto-st8bn]

thanks for dueling at this grace, the first step sucks for duels

[@619masterful]

what grace is this

[@rustyvent]

@@619masterful Don't know the name exactly, but it is right outside Raya Lucaria, near one of the warps

[@619masterful]

@@rustyvent it’s the main academy gate i’m pretty sure, just remembered

[@sonicsucks2961]

If only that grace was active on xbox :(

[@619masterful]

@@sonicsucks2961 it is

[@MrHerbert1129]

Hey, I fought you in this! @14:08 good fight man, love your videos

[@blazeknight4120]

That was a cool battle man. May I ask how the "pocket whip" strat has been working out for you?

[@TopBurger239]

YOU STOLE MY EXACT DRIP

[@MrHerbert1129]

@@blazeknight4120 Its great for interrupting lighter weapons, especially katana running attacks so I get a fair bit of use out of it. Also having the range is nice, you can force people to close in or force them away depending on how you use it. Overall, its a nice addition and light enough that most builds can take it, without sacrificing carry weight.

[@MrHerbert1129]

@@TopBurger239 We are now bling brothers

[@blazeknight4120]

@@MrHerbert1129 Thanks for sharing. 🙂

[@ironicits]

Finally, more Scott talking about stuff he's doing in video games with the occasional sigh. Music to my ears.

[@V2ULTRAKill]

Thanks for pointing this out, i was worried that my thrust weapon setup with fashion souls was gonna suffer because no poise Now i can use my naginatas and other long thrusting toys with no fear

[@thenoblepoptart]

Blood naginatas is definitely in the top 5 most overpowered builds, especially with seppuku. Insane blood damage and pretty quick with great range.

[@V2ULTRAKill]

@@thenoblepoptart i run frost for invade and keen with flame grease for duels Bleed is filthy and i will not touch it in its current state

[@thenoblepoptart]

@@V2ULTRAKill fire and ice, sweet build

[@guyguy7002]

Dual naginatas + bloodflame build + flame grant me strength is my build, crazy damage and the bloodflame is great for people that like to run and heal since they cant avoid the bleed procs like that

[@V1_JFN]

I love listening to these as I'm just casually grinding runes for mats or exploring

[@blizzthecasul364]

13:27 Scott you fucking legend, that's literally the best tip I've ever heard, everyone should know that !

[@stewrat0420]

lol your profile name fits this comment so well.

[@Longsword.]

i recommend you watch Chasethebro's old Dark souls 3 invasion videos :) he's an amazing invader and you should check him out!

[@w.a.o.a.w]

Turns out running in circles is preeeeeetty gooood.

[@miklor646]

Easily became one of my favorite content creators. Love your simplicity!!!! Small distinguishes go a long way.

[@NoSignalConspiracy]

12:00 Ive found that jumping over the greatshield guys (not being locked on) and doing a 180 heavy jump attack works pretty good. they usually cant turn fast enough

[@Sinisphere]

Such a simple weapon but you can't argue with the results. Well played. Nice dueling area.

[@iPokeStuffwastaken]

I missed these kind of videos from you. Really happy to see you back to PVPing in these kind of games. You rock! Very informative!

[@Xoilen]

Rivers of blood has been an absolute terror to play against in invasions

[@saintsword23]

They need to halve the range, keep the damage...then it would still be good but not completely broken like it currently is.

[@sephie1343]

by far my favorite weapon, so simple and yet so effective. I find myself just using 5 of these things with different AoWs and i havent gotten bored of them yet.

[@ungobungo7986]

Which different aow have you tried on them? So far I've only duped for two and just alternate between my storm stomp and sword dance one

[@humblehomunculus2722]

The word you're looking for that determines the multiplier of the attack x AR is motion value.

[@Thunder_Brand_]

pretty sure the reason the storm stomp was combing into R2 only sometimes is related to what frame they're getting hit on, if you hit someone on the very tail end of the active frames then the hitstun lasts long enough to combo in to R2, but if they get hit too early, the combo will drop before you get through the startup of R2. Not super familiar with the minutiae souls PvP so I might be missing something that contradicts that idea, but it's a pretty common situation in fighting games.

[@Abc123rage]

Gotta hit the meaty stormstomp eh?

[@andresleon6102]

The best non bs weapon reviewer from back in the day is back u taught me everything Ik

[@ruinmaniac1411]

it's possible that the storm stomp only combo'd into the heavy due to the lingering hitbox catching them late

[@ryell0913]

That point about blocking to avoid pivoting is gold. Thanks man!

[@morzorkatvfm]

I studied the Pike in DS3 and it’s served me well in Elden Ring too. My go-to pvp weapon.

[@Mo_sty]

Modifiers are called Motion Values

[@NomoregoodnamesD8]

Storm Stomp > R2 might only be a combo when stomp hits late into its active frames. So basically, R2 confirm on the roll catch, R1 confirm on the interrupt

[@ItsCASTYS]

I love these videos cause they remind me of the old Oro’s Arsenal videos. Keep it going, man!

[@JimHoxworth]

Oh Scott I actually just remembered I figured something out, Co-Op players can drop Ashes of War so if you can’t get Blade Dance someone can drop it for you.

[@xReifox]

I fucking love this format of videos, please keep posting them, I really love to discover builds I didn't try yet.

[@Vurzey]

Loving the content Scott, keep it up!!

[@ethantsai8261]

Hey Scott, the reason your storm stomp comboed into a charge attack/R2 is because you caught him at the end of your stomp animation recovery since he rolled through the first part into active frames. If you hit them with the initial part of storm stomp then they can recover from the stagger before you can get the R2 out.

[@ethantsai8261]

Might also be a latency thing if I'm wrong.

[@XxChancex]

Love these videos, keep em coming! I would love to see you make videos where you are the “meta” build; and then come up with a counter build after knowing the ins and outs of it.

[@Arenur2k7]

For the storm stomp - > R2 combo: I think the guy just got hit by stomp very late during its lingering hitbox because he was rolling at the time, so relative to the start of the stomp stun, the R2 came out faster

[@Lionbug]

Damn loved that parry by the greatsword guy

[@thecrusader5379]

Dude idk what it is about these videos but they’re awesome. Keep up the good work bro💪

[@lewislogan9883]

I loved straight sword duels in ds3, whoever had proper spacing won the fight. You should have poise if you’re deep into an attack with a Heavy weapon…

[@Shukentenable]

The Storm Stomp into R2 only combos if it hits the enemy late in the Storm Stomp animation. Since it has a lingering hitbox, if it hits late into the hitbox's life, you can combo into things that otherwise don't work

[@splaartflunterklufn9797]

Haha, the gargoyle flanespear was the ooold dark souls 3 meta, times have definitely changed and it’s not really what it used to be, just like the ccs in that regard, but it used to be very crazy. It was replaced by the saints bident, four pronged plow and ringed knight spear.

[@Senerith]

Lothric war banner was better than any of those because its dumb low stamina cost, as long as you are good at landing normal r1, absolute spacing and using you enhanced stamina consumption for mindgaming.

[@-snek.]

Woo! I dunno if my comment influenced choosing the pike for this, but I'm gonna say thank you anyway, just in case.

[@Brawneteer]

Dagger talisman on that guy who parried you wouldn't have killed. It only adds like 10% damage to criticals.

[@ScottJund]

i thought it was 15%

[@Brawneteer]

@@ScottJund it's a small increase either way. Much weaker in Elden Ring compared to the Hornet Ring and the 30% it provided

[@Tilyaf]

I really wanna see the heavy thrusting swords. The running R2 looks really goofy with how far it takes your character.

[@moose8337]

Alternative title "Dummy long boi sticks his head in everyone"

[@FadedVIsage]

IDK if Dark Souls is just not using fighting game terms properly but you did not describe a Counter Hit you described a Whiff Punish. A Counter Hit is when you hit someone during the Startup of their attack. That is generally when CH state is applied, as far as my understanding, this is how Dark Souls applies CH as well but I could be wrong. I was not aware you got any bonus for whiff punishing (Hitting an opponent after the active frames but during the recovery frames of their attack. As you described)

[@isaacyglesias4717]

Dark souls/Elden Ring has a term with the same name that only applies to piercing damage. As far as I know, it has been a thing since dark souls 1 but It just happens to be called counter-strike damage. Small Edit: I don’t really know why they decided to call it counter-strikes but it’s what all the rings claim so it might be a translation thing turned colloquialism

[@FadedVIsage]

@@isaacyglesias4717 OMG well that um wow that's kinda insane and explains some things. I have never used a spear in my almost 10 years of playing these games so I genuinely didn't know that.

[@apolloniuspergus9295]

Some weapons/ashes of war are good for fingerprint users: - Coded Sword - Impaling thrust (AoW) - Piercing Fang (AoW) - Black Knife

[@K40005]

Coded impaling and piercing lose on damage trade but the best way to deal with them is straight up bait and parry

[@Trusty_Elric]

If you're running (direction + circle obviously) just let go of the stick, and you can instantly change directions

[@VoidEternal]

There's another way to avoid Pivoting. Briefly let go of the direction you're going in before you start up another direction and you'll avoid the pivot animation while still maintaining your speed.

[@ReavenM1911A1]

You can also crouch and instant 180 too

[@AdmiralA]

Yeah you can just roll the stick too

[@Sky-lc8vq]

Can we all agree as a community that the frozen lake is the prettiest place for fight club

[@vladspellbinder]

4:38 They've got an astronaut helmet on, of course they goes balls in. Thanks for the video Scott.

[@Sarsaparillamann]

Thanks for explaining the spear talisman. It says counterattacks which in the tutorial is an R2 after a weapon bounces off and I was so confused why it wasn’t doing anything I thought it was bugged. Had no idea about the pierce debuff after attack

[@CreatingShane]

How are u geting so many duals? I can’t find any anywhere

[@Autumnmobile1]

You do still take counter damage when pivoting in this game, found it out the hard way the other day against a boss

[@hefezopf6015]

The gargoyle flamespear of Elden ring

[@robbiekinsey1337]

Missed this brother. Thank you

[@ChaoticNox]

That's a simple yet oddly interesting build, I haven't tried spears yet.

[@skippitybop6281]

that pivoting tip is so useful ty

[@Kizen.]

"Movement? Modifiers?" Multipliers, Scott.

[@TupacalipseT96]

Motion Value was the dark souls word he was looking for

[@chungohumongo6622]

Haha I was Wretched Chungus in this video and had no idea about the blocking to prevent pivoting thing lol. Thanks for the tip

[@A.L.E.X.T]

Hey Scott, about greatshield stability 12:00. Actually, you don't need infinite stability. I have a lvl 125 build with haligtree greatshield + cleanrot knight rapier (it's good for STR build). Shield without skill and rapier with parry. Not using any glitches or exploits, unless you consider greatshield expoit. Yes, I'm losing stamina from blocking, but it's not a problem at all, you just manage it. I won very many duels and was guard broken only a few times, due to running while chasing low hp opponent. I can trade at least 1 hit with anything, including colossal weapons, and then just dodge / regen stamina. I abandoned that build, it became too easy, not interesting. PS Good strat against great shield is horizontal jumping attacks, they often hit behind the shield.

[@monkeyflip2025]

The thirty nine and a half foot pole nobody would touch the grinch with

[@Cat-sampo]

I think Harkos was just doing the Burger King cosplay, and honestly, about the greatshields, you have a Parry shield if you figure out their rythm you can do a running attack into parry and thats super effective against those builds

[@sanjuel3463]

The new arena reminds me of the Undead Arena, which is cool. I do kind of miss the grassy plains of the old fight area though.

[@furiousbanana]

Wut arena tf where

[@stewrat0420]

@@furiousbanana lmao it's the pvp arena in dark souls 3.

[@furiousbanana]

@@stewrat0420 what no i mean theres an arena in er?

[@stewrat0420]

@@furiousbanana no there's no dedicated arena yet. He was just referring to the first step grace site, which is a pvp hotspot currently alongside the academy main gate grace where Scott is in this video

[@furiousbanana]

@@stewrat0420 :(

[@Yzaias15]

I like the pike a lot but the 1 handed moveset is better since you get to keep the poke for your rolling attack. I know for heavy pike that's bad but I wonder if there's a good affinity for 1 handed spears?

[@bigboi1265]

The saucing from the parry was kind of a flex

[@Emperiak]

21:55 seems the R2 connected because the stomp caught him coming out of his roll towards the end of the storm animation then he was hit with the full stun while you were already winding up the R2

[@x_Avelyn_x]

Did testing, 100 poise is enough to get through a storm stomp. Storm stomp also resets poise while endure doesn’t. So if you see a beefy boi, r1 first then stomp.

[@Reverie_xo]

HOLY SHIT MY FAVORITE SERIES IS BACK LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO

[@yesindeed5811]

Visions of DS1 darkwood grain silver knight spear build. Gives me conniptions

[@VoidEternal]

Oro did a shout out for Main Gate Academy. So you should be getting more duels there soon.

[@cokeMONSTERps3]

I never even thought about pivoting. Good to know.

[@Horrible_Failure]

double pikes at low levels is amazing. and it does pair very well with storm stomp

[@Summon_Aery]

That Stormstomp R2 was nice, looked like you needed to hit with the lingering hitbox to land it though? I don't think you'd get it if they were hit by the initial stomp, that's what it looked like anyway. Any chance you could give the Sword of Milos a go? I think it's pretty interesting.

[@itsSmiv]

I'd love to see a Bloody Helice duels vid; the weapon art on it is really fun to use and the running r2 on it is absolutely nuts.

[@omarbojang2602]

Could you do a melee caster hybrid build with sorceries

[@snipetysniper]

Im pretty sure the Saint Bident was slightly longer than Gargoyle’s but with way less damage

[@SahnigReingeloetet]

Yeah in DS3 the Gargoyle Flame Spear used to be the longest spear, but Fromsoft nerfed it for honestly no reason similar to the Black Knight Glaive (to push the Splitleaf I guess). After that it was the Saint Bident but the Four Pronged Plow was more popular; Comparable range but with a wider hitbox for chase-downs. Oh and the term you were looking for was motion value.

[@LineArck]

there is a 4 people limit in a world only 2 of them can be furled finger / duelist so this can't be a fight club area since we all have to kill rennala in order to respec (the bridge in Altus plateau fit the criteria) close to a grave upper area to watch the fight etc)

[@TheSm1thers]

6:52 Frostbleed whips are a very fun build. Very nice range and damage.

[@Pharthrax]

The name for damage calculation multipliers you were looking for was ‘motion values’.

[@team3d180]

Motion values? I don't remember what they're called either. 🤷‍♂️

[@lukefisher8417]

Oh shit thanks for the pivot tip. I already knew I don’t block enough even when two handing a single weapon now even more reason to practice it

[@zeporion6091]

Is the party shield just for show? Da da da danananna-

[@ZarytheMovies]

I'd love to see duels in the Divine bridge area of Leyndell since it has great performance for even low end PC's. Sadly the area gets instanced once you (SPOILER) burn the erdtree so theres two versions of the area (Pre burning and after). I would love for it to be the main area though it's practically perfect for duels

[@fishfillet9355]

does the dagger talisman in this game give the alternate riposte animation like it did in DS3? I always thought those looked so cool, especially the fist one.

[@rippie___]

glad u got some main gate duels

[@skypie427]

Since the sorcery buff ive returned to pure mage and i found that a buckler shield on the offhand gives you some nice security when they rush you down to stop stars of ruin c:

[@philipfahy9658]

Wouldn't the trick against the dual bleed spear build be to parry them? I mean easier said than done, but at least their moveset is fairly predictable.

[@TSE_WOODY]

Hey Scott, love the videos Do you have any thoughts on the current selection of fist weapons? They seem to scale well and absolutely destroy posture while applying statuses relatively quickly due to their attack speed, obvious downside being a lack of range. Would love to see you do a video on them and the whips, since they’re more niche weapons that you’re unlikely to see often

[@Veik_Reikis]

Only counter I've found to the Fingerprint sheild is using Waterfowl dance when they're fairly close, unlocking, and trying to make it go off behind them. Can get them stuck in the block animation the wrong way then lock on behind them. It sometimes works but eh.. what else can you do.

[@saintsword23]

Piercing Strike and status effect damage. Done and done. Options for enchants: Blackflame Weapon (17 Faith) - doesn't do status effect damage, but will burn through the shield I believe. Bloodflame Weapon (12 Faith) Frozen Weapon (15 Intelligence) You can also parry their pokes. So, keep a thrust weapon with Piercing Strike or a parry shield in your inventory to deal with it. Fingerprint is really easy to counter tbh.

[@milkopilko]

when you said the sword dance scarab doesn't spawn for you for some reason, it might be because you are way above its spot. did you go down the narrow ledge below?

[@Talulah_Artorius]

Against fingerprint shield even split damage is worthless, that thing has almost 90 in every single absorption stat, you even by doing say 600 magic damage they only receive like... 20, the only thing that maybe works a little bit are status effects, fingerprint shield is stupid

[@edward9674]

Although it leaves very little to be worn with it. But yes i agree it needs adjustment.

[@jacoboliver3966]

you think the impaling thrust ash of war works well with it? I have that on one of my spears in case I run into one

[@Talulah_Artorius]

@@jacoboliver3966 oh yeah, anything that ignores shields works against it, reapers, coded sword and the fist one work too... Only real counters, but if they 2 hand the shield they can poise break you with it and prevent the attacks

[@Talulah_Artorius]

@@edward9674 I mean, even if you are naked, taking 60 damage out of a 600 damage attack and not losing stamina at all is still not fair

[@Juggs009]

@@Talulah_Artorius Also, a lot of those weapons skills are heavily telegraphed, so they could just dodge them until you run out of FP. Best thing is something like a scythe that ignores shields partially from attacks, but that's about it other than certain rare weapon skills that cause aoe that ignores shields like Godwyns Axe.

[@bobbobby475]

This is why you should make a beginner guide to combat. I didnt know about guard pivoting at all

[@TheDoomlord7]

Hey not sure if you know about this bug but a killbox was accidentally put in the tree drop down where the dragoncrest shield talisman is. Some people don’t think it is a bug but in all honesty it is pretty obvious it is. It is on the second tree going to the next, not sure if you are interested if you wanna try to find a workaround. I tried a few ways myself nothing works.

[@kronickmasturbater5226]

The word is "Motion value" iirc, In case you were still wondering

[@TheReaperOfChess]

What about scythes? lol 20:28 what weapon is that the guy is using it looks close to a nagato build or something

[@Detric_Murray]

Yeah I don’t have a lot of poise on my Godslayer Ronin build spacing is so key fighting high poise opponents. Great stuff!

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

I feel like an idiot for doing a playtrough with the Short Spear. Actual pain!

[@dubiousdevil9572]

Can you do a whip build?

[@penapickle]

Why 1 spear when you could power stance? Is 2 spears too slow? And why not go halberds? Is it just cuz spears are longer/faster?