NASA 3D Printed Mars Habitat Challenge Phase 3 - Penn State - Virtual Construction Level 2

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Penn State DENatMARS

Penn State DENatMARS

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@Lexx2k
@Lexx2k 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like getting the printing system to Mars is the first big challenge. That thing looks huge.
@nikita424
@nikita424 4 жыл бұрын
the rovers that were already sent aren't small either. The printing system can be sent in pieces to be mounted by the first colonists/smaller robots
@Alignedtop
@Alignedtop 4 жыл бұрын
@@fabian9256 Yes they will be doing that.
@mmjnice97
@mmjnice97 4 жыл бұрын
Oh hell just live in spacex starship until the habit is built. Starship is such a game changer!!
@3gunslingers
@3gunslingers 4 жыл бұрын
@@mmjnice97 This concept seems hard to get for many people.
@UnaSheil
@UnaSheil 4 жыл бұрын
The idea of 3D printing is so we don't need any people on mars until the habitat is built! This design is not even feasible on Earth at the moment!
@theknave4415
@theknave4415 4 жыл бұрын
The next level: Location: Arctic/Antarctica. 3D print a Mars habitat on site. Immediately move into it. Live there for two years.
@crp9985
@crp9985 4 жыл бұрын
Good proof of concept.
@mischaangst
@mischaangst 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/joitXqZ7ZZ10ick
@wdd3141
@wdd3141 4 жыл бұрын
I think Kim Stanley Robinson, author of at least three novels dealing with Mars, considered Antarctica as a testing ground.
@joebloe1401
@joebloe1401 3 жыл бұрын
and then do it on the moon 2 years
@jacobdaniel3890
@jacobdaniel3890 Ай бұрын
It'd be cool to build 3d printed ice habitats out of snow
@messaoudkrioua5002
@messaoudkrioua5002 4 жыл бұрын
I think making caves is the best way to colonize mars
@Cortesevasive
@Cortesevasive 4 жыл бұрын
thermonuclear drills etc
@OneMeanArtist
@OneMeanArtist 4 жыл бұрын
5:16 People go to all the way to Mars and they're STILL on their gd cellphones...
@NicholasNerios
@NicholasNerios Жыл бұрын
Great plan.
@JonatanDanon
@JonatanDanon 4 жыл бұрын
The stairs should have fewer higher steps if you account for Mars gravity.
@lhtyeehaw1319
@lhtyeehaw1319 4 жыл бұрын
Our legs are still the same length as they were on earth
@Matt4412-j7o
@Matt4412-j7o 4 жыл бұрын
You would still be doing the same amount of work against gravity whether you have more or fewer steps.
@JonatanDanon
@JonatanDanon 4 жыл бұрын
@@lhtyeehaw1319 our legs length is not the binding restriction in the height choice, but the force you need to excert to climb each step. Most people can step on a chair but climbing a stair of several "chair seat height" steps would be too much on Earth. Also steps need a minimum detph for step security. Hence a shorter stair design with fewer higher steps sesms logical in an habitat on Mars where surface area is so limited.
@lhtyeehaw1319
@lhtyeehaw1319 4 жыл бұрын
@@JonatanDanon okay, makes sense
@Alignedtop
@Alignedtop 4 жыл бұрын
You haven't watched big bang theory then. The change in a steps height by only a few millimetres can cause a person to trip. Our minds are habitually trained to lift our foot a certain height. Gravity wont change that. It's foot eye co-ordination. But I understand the space requirements you mentioned and we might have to learn to step differently.
@gglendon
@gglendon 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see this technology used on terra firma like a desert location to confirm long term structural integrity with earth's own erosion before attempting this off planet. The gradation of glass to concrete is a beautiful concept.
@matthewjacobs141
@matthewjacobs141 Жыл бұрын
IMO...they need to test everything in low gravity as found on Mars...For instance ...how will the printed slurry settle under less gravity...will the plumbing get clogged up in the printer, what happens if the printer takes a time-out and all the slurry starts to set-up...What can go wrong will go wrong
@adynaba
@adynaba 4 жыл бұрын
An advantage of this construction method is that the habitats can be constructed with almost no human intervention. So they can be constructed and tested before the population gets to Mars. Construction by hand would need lots of workers and where would they stay while constructing?
@xivok
@xivok 4 жыл бұрын
I think we should have a design that doesnt use much 3d printing and take advantage of Martian Cave systems
@canobenitez
@canobenitez 3 жыл бұрын
why not both
@koolerpure
@koolerpure 4 жыл бұрын
if we start on mars we need to go underground first. they'd have ever expanding tunneling and it'll provide safety from those planet wide sand storms and if they had starship launch from a subsurface cargo bay humanity would thrive long enough to start building on the surface. this current idea is cool but so much can go wrong with the robotic printing since the ground has to be level and im sure the wind could be problematic even with a machine that large, at least underground the worst you can get is the structure collapsing but i doubt it would plus you'd already have the materials to build on the surface with actual engineers
@UnaSheil
@UnaSheil 4 жыл бұрын
Your onto something there. It's a lot more feasible to use a digging and tunneling method. We would need that machinery in the first place to mine the materials necessary to build any of these structures via 3D printing. Going underground would be better for the radiation levels and sand storms like you say. The idea of getting that giant machine to Mars along with all the other massive machines to mine and process the materials before you even start is idiotic. Just makes more sense to start with the easiest method to get a foothold on the planet
@fairysox221
@fairysox221 4 жыл бұрын
Or we could take a Boring machine and live underground, just got to find a guy with a rocket company and a Boring company...
@nicholaspatton1742
@nicholaspatton1742 4 жыл бұрын
Just don't let the AIs kill us all. We need to elongate humanities time window to own cyber trucks.
@jagdpanzer6689
@jagdpanzer6689 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaspatton1742 AI today is quite getting scarier, take a look at Alphastar Deepmind AI in Starcraft. Imagine this kind of AI tech applied in Martian Robots. XD
@UnaSheil
@UnaSheil 4 жыл бұрын
How exactly were you planning on getting that monolithic machine to Mars to print those habitats?
@OneMeanArtist
@OneMeanArtist 4 жыл бұрын
By wagon.
@Juxtaposed_IRL
@Juxtaposed_IRL 3 жыл бұрын
@@OneMeanArtist Lmao omg
@johndliz
@johndliz 4 жыл бұрын
OUT OF CURIOSITY CAN THIS BE ADAPTED AND MODIFIED TO CREATING UNDERWATER HABITATS?
@francoismorin8721
@francoismorin8721 4 жыл бұрын
Very good. People like you make us dream some more, and sometimes make them come true! Good work! RObots should be sent frist to build shelters and other amenities. Walking androids and other robots are almost ready. So logically we could colonize Mars between 2040 and 2050 if we wish for it. A moon station to begin with and simplify cargo would be a smart move.
@francoismorin8721
@francoismorin8721 4 жыл бұрын
@MrFr0stycave I don't think the main problem will be dust has our smartphones and smart watches are already equipted with water and dust resistance. The problems will be on the side of landing on Mars, but because there is a Carbon Gaz based atmosphere on Mars, cargos should be sent first before any living humans. THey are already testing parachutes for mars. See this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5SkmKGHbrBqi7s We should build a base on the Moon to better prepare those cargos. now I don't know if the Moon can be mined for minerals like metals. That would help greatly.
@timothycrystal2623
@timothycrystal2623 4 жыл бұрын
They should build a working demo in Antarctic to prove the concept
@frankhoffman3566
@frankhoffman3566 4 жыл бұрын
To truly make it work, we need to send almost sentient robots to Mars. They would be tasked with finding these indigenous materials, and constructing villages in advance of human visits.
@jacobbosley2425
@jacobbosley2425 4 жыл бұрын
China has a ship that is the precursor for the system that will probably actually be used to build habitats. Not just on Mars.
@MrPhife333
@MrPhife333 4 жыл бұрын
I want one of these to be built on Earth. And then I want to live in it.
@HoskARTStudio
@HoskARTStudio 5 жыл бұрын
Well thought out design. Best one I have seen so far. Question would be mining or extracting the raw materials from the surface and delivery to the printers storage facility.
@JoseDuarte-zv2xx
@JoseDuarte-zv2xx 5 жыл бұрын
That's right. NASA has another challenge to address that problem.
@genemyers17
@genemyers17 5 жыл бұрын
Ready for Mars, but can't even fix downtown L.A.
@taplawillwillpicture4more449
@taplawillwillpicture4more449 5 жыл бұрын
On the real
@chadgdry3938
@chadgdry3938 4 жыл бұрын
Have they considered the differential pressure inside and outside the habitat. Too lazy to google the ground level pressure of Mars, but i am under the impression the Martian atmosphere is at a much lower pressure than that of Earth at ocean level.
@somemagellanic
@somemagellanic 4 жыл бұрын
probably
@supermojo9672
@supermojo9672 4 жыл бұрын
How did you not win the challenge???!!! This idea is brillant!
@perrysmith4676
@perrysmith4676 3 жыл бұрын
Just rent a couple of caves from the Martians.
@the20thDoctor
@the20thDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
There sure was a distinct lack of automated mining equipment in this presentation...and a whole lot of moving parts. Are they gonna send a maintenance crew as well?
@3gunslingers
@3gunslingers 4 жыл бұрын
There will be a population of 100 - 200 people on Mars, before they can think about printing habitats. The first settlers on Mars will live in SpaceX Starships. These ships will be either in vertical or horizontal position.
@Anrwi
@Anrwi 5 жыл бұрын
Can these be built here cheaply to help with housing shortages?
@JoseDuarte-zv2xx
@JoseDuarte-zv2xx 5 жыл бұрын
That is the orginal goal of the research that we continue working on.
@wodenoftheangles3339
@wodenoftheangles3339 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoseDuarte-zv2xx Already happening in Russia.
@Muuip
@Muuip 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned it! Creating synergy between supporting humanity on earth and space shall have the greater results. Building habitats in all extreme environments on earth will raise the quality of life on earth and teach us how to live on other planets.
@Alignedtop
@Alignedtop 4 жыл бұрын
Ya man, we'll get that house done for your mum as soon as we can. Regards NASA
@Cortesevasive
@Cortesevasive 4 жыл бұрын
There are more than enough housing , just get money first
@texasbassranger
@texasbassranger Жыл бұрын
So for now, we've got dancing robots. I believe it's going to take decades, if not a generation to develop the AI and robotics to accomplish this task. I am encouraged by the planning, but until the robotics are fully developed, we're going to be stuck in lava tubes. But again, how long until we have the robotics necessary to even explore and map them out?
@plinkbottle
@plinkbottle 4 жыл бұрын
Upside down flower pots on mars baked by the climate, but where is the water to wet the clay and make the pots.
@philallsopp42
@philallsopp42 3 жыл бұрын
Great...only concern is the thus far evidence free archibabble about how uplifting these structures will be. What kind of systematic research has been done to assess the relationships between these habitats & human responses to them? The concept is, however sound. Just wish the typical archibabble at the end of this video had been left out.
@zaneal-amood5474
@zaneal-amood5474 4 жыл бұрын
This looks like something SpaceX starship could lift easily
@Glathgrundel
@Glathgrundel 2 жыл бұрын
The surface of Mars is subjected to huge amounts of radiation … is this a potential source of energy for a fledgling colony?
@WilliamKing-hf8lc
@WilliamKing-hf8lc 4 жыл бұрын
They fail to realize the flaw in their design... Cork Trees are a protected species on Mars!
@mjk9388
@mjk9388 4 жыл бұрын
Better idea. Step 1: Find lava tubes large enough to hold housing and thick enough to block radiation. Step 2: Inflate pre-fab housing built and tested on earth (and then the moon) inside lava tubes. This would give radiation, meteor and dust storm protection while keeping the costs of the first settlement "relatively" low. I don't disagree with the approach in the video, it's just not really needed for the first settlement.
@crp9985
@crp9985 4 жыл бұрын
Moon doesn't have lava tubes.
@mjk9388
@mjk9388 4 жыл бұрын
CRP en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_lava_tube. I understand though that not all rocky planets will have lava tubes.
@geeterjityumnam6648
@geeterjityumnam6648 4 жыл бұрын
It would take around 10 to 15 years to make this kind of mega machine to launch.
@ksd593
@ksd593 4 жыл бұрын
Will this hold inside air pressure. If it doesn't, then 3d printing of buildings on Mars seems overcomplicated. Much simpler is pouring gravel over pressurised vessels placed in dugouts.
@jagdpanzer6689
@jagdpanzer6689 4 жыл бұрын
If you know the atmospheric *pressure of Mars, then you will have an idea how much internal pressure should be applied for that kind of structure to maintain an equilibrium, so it does not crack. Further, closed and controlled environment have leakage allowance for good reason.
@drmosfet
@drmosfet 4 жыл бұрын
Did they mention, if they tried this 3D printing in the same conditions as Mars? Thin air and low temperature, except for gravity they should be able to do a good earth bound simulation. If you could show us that it would be a lot less "pie in the sky"
@nonegone7170
@nonegone7170 4 жыл бұрын
Did they mention, if they tried this 3D printing in the same conditions as Mars? Congratulations, you've just asked a question without it being a real question. Good job.
@city8742
@city8742 5 жыл бұрын
It looks like as 3 google home speakers
@hamarana
@hamarana 3 жыл бұрын
I think it looks small for a life of at leat 2 years in only 4 modules... I guess there should be ways to have a continuous construction of new modules.. just the perspective of having a new module built some time ahead will garantee the sanity of everyone on board. People confined to a planet in which they can´t go outside and play might no be very healthy mentally! Being confined here on Earth as an experiment, there is a garantee in the back of the subjets´ heads that they can break free at any moment.. this is a total different perspective.
@desmonddwyer
@desmonddwyer 4 жыл бұрын
The thing to remember is that machine has to get to mars and that not going to happen. A blowup with interlocking tiles on top. hand made tiles,,
@Matt4412-j7o
@Matt4412-j7o 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what houses would look like on earth if we approached designing them in the same way people are designing habitats on places like mars. Efficient, low cost, functional and so on...
@Cortesevasive
@Cortesevasive 4 жыл бұрын
cardboard and glue in usa , Brick and mortar in EU
@brushesbits7120
@brushesbits7120 3 жыл бұрын
This is a massive project. Very ambitious and it would be a true engineering marvel, if they were able to build and prototype it here on earth. But that’s just it, isn’t it. You not only have to construct and test this vehicle (witch looks to be around the size of a large mining dump truck) but then you have to launch it on multiple rocks. There’s no way one star ship can handle this payload. This project from my prospective needs stream lining maybe have the printing arm be the only thing tracking along out there, and have a hoses to the material storage. I dont know it just seems like they are thinking the red planet is more of an ideal place to build than it actually is.
@Corvaire
@Corvaire 2 жыл бұрын
Just 3D print some brick molds and send some Masons over there. ;O)-
@stephaneboyer4286
@stephaneboyer4286 4 жыл бұрын
Your 3d printer vehicle seems to be too big to be send to mars
@starsky956
@starsky956 4 жыл бұрын
He’s saying leisure like leesure
@drizzt5110
@drizzt5110 5 жыл бұрын
i like it but how does the printer test out when printing in a -32* temp because the nozzle and air around it wouldnt it freeze up and or not layer bond well
@joebloe1401
@joebloe1401 3 жыл бұрын
not much air?
@giszTube
@giszTube 4 жыл бұрын
Have you considered how much power would be need for this?
@lhtyeehaw1319
@lhtyeehaw1319 4 жыл бұрын
We could probably meet the requirements tbh
@terabyte8262
@terabyte8262 4 жыл бұрын
No planet can replace earth becuz it was gifted by our god and we move free on earth But other planet we don't have freedom
@rongants6082
@rongants6082 4 жыл бұрын
When a small part on your Rube Goldberg printer fails and, suddenly, you've got an extremely expensive pile of useless junk 40 million miles from Earth.
@GriceldaAlma
@GriceldaAlma 4 жыл бұрын
Do it
@the_jcbone
@the_jcbone 4 жыл бұрын
Strong Astroneer vibes…
@shankylion5764
@shankylion5764 4 жыл бұрын
The question is can we make fully sustainable homes here in earth which can last at least a year without help then we can think of such prototypes on Mars
@lhtyeehaw1319
@lhtyeehaw1319 4 жыл бұрын
Earth has a thicker atmosphere, the house would have more pressure on it
@Alignedtop
@Alignedtop 4 жыл бұрын
@@lhtyeehaw1319 They tested it on earth, it was fine. To the initial commenter, ingenuity has results that can be copied on earth. Not the other way around. Poor people have no money for design and tech specs I'm afraid.. So first Mars then we'll build your mum a house
@lhtyeehaw1319
@lhtyeehaw1319 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alignedtop I dont think you understood what I was saying, if it can stand earth's atmosphere, than it can definitely handle anything less
@GhostNade
@GhostNade 4 жыл бұрын
As part of the innovation, I recommend you to undesign it.
@justrosy2635
@justrosy2635 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck 3D printing those stairs though...
@Crazylaika
@Crazylaika 5 жыл бұрын
Marscrete™
@Gnefitisis
@Gnefitisis 5 жыл бұрын
So, this design seems very well thought out and designed. Other than the necessity for water in the curing process, what were the critieria in which ths design failed relative to AI Spacefactory?
@elcadaver
@elcadaver 3 жыл бұрын
The next great leap for human kind is learning how to clean up after ourselves, not shit the bed and stop breaking things. Human kind is a 4 year old at best.
@SolarizeYourLife
@SolarizeYourLife 4 жыл бұрын
Eliminate the stairs and use brass pole and a lifting pad...or at least use a captain ladder...
@tristenbenneyy2037
@tristenbenneyy2037 4 жыл бұрын
Why not the moon?
@TheOriginalFreak
@TheOriginalFreak 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Those silos have to be almost 50 feet tall. Those would be thousands of pounds if designed for the same use on Earth so imagine the cost of creating them of materials light enough to be affordably sent to Mars. Is this really the best design for the limited resources that will be used to set up colonies on Mars? Personally, I like the competing team's idea of swarmbots that can be combined like legos to form the multitude of machinery needed for large earth-pod like structures on Mars. It is fortunate the materials needed for a useful form of concrete are available on Mars, my question on the point is, just how easy is this material to harvest? This would apply to any team as it is clear, be it through direct of indirect requirements created by the bid documents, any system will need to use Martian sourced materials. There is a reason miners on Earth are either basically slave labor or are very highly paid. Not only is mining typically dangerous for both man and machine, it is invariably wrought with unexpected obstacles left and right regardless of how much science you throw at it while trying to get a perfect picture of your work site. Now magnify this through the lens of the mining site being located on another planet. A planet that most likely lacks any form of human labor during the construction phase, with an environment more inhospitable to machines than any mine site on Earth, and now you have a real problem to solve. A problem it seems no team so far has directly addressed and one I hope the people spending our tax dollars are carefully contemplating when reviewing this team proposals.
@TheOriginalFreak
@TheOriginalFreak 4 жыл бұрын
What are the chances the winning teams system will be able to a) locate, b) reach, c) harvest, d) transport, e) refine, f) store, g) maintain equipment, h) replace equipment, etc. etc. etc.? Even with my limited experience at working in a mine, (mind you this was a very shallow lead mine from the 19th century or so which had been restored as part of a museum decades before I began employ there) it takes a LOT of critical thinking skills to overcome the seemingly endless supply of suprises you encounter digging, be it on the surface or underground. Even with current and near-future technology, it strikes me that even with the data we do and will have on the surface of Mars and the immediate subsurface, these are only samples. Remember the 2016 Presidential election polls? Ya, that could happen on Mars. By all means please try, I think it will work, I am just curious from a logistical standpoint given the knowledge and experiences I have had with harvesting natural resources, constructing in non-traditional environments, etc.
@TechTipsUSA
@TechTipsUSA 4 жыл бұрын
Build one on earth and see if it works cut off all the air and supplies
@Marade
@Marade 4 жыл бұрын
kind of hard to cut of someone's air on earth lol
@kerboy5397
@kerboy5397 4 жыл бұрын
isnt earth similar to earth
@tonyduncan9852
@tonyduncan9852 4 жыл бұрын
Normally.
@tonyduncan9852
@tonyduncan9852 4 жыл бұрын
@Alexander Markland You first. I'm busy dealing with my age.
@kerboy5397
@kerboy5397 4 жыл бұрын
@Alexander Markland not what I meant
@DStripeM
@DStripeM 4 жыл бұрын
Why not make it in pyramid shape, it's a solid shape and blocks of radiation
@wodenoftheangles3339
@wodenoftheangles3339 5 жыл бұрын
When can I move in?
@nicholasthien5515
@nicholasthien5515 4 жыл бұрын
if we can buil a colony on earth in the desert with limited resources than transfer the to Mars
@donstash4295
@donstash4295 4 жыл бұрын
Water is big problem for making concrete of any kind. Water needed is big problem for all of these ideas.
@certifyme1003xs
@certifyme1003xs 5 жыл бұрын
Something is up with this exodus to Planet Mars🤔🤔
@IemonIime
@IemonIime 5 жыл бұрын
Tell me your thoughts
@MrAnritco
@MrAnritco 4 жыл бұрын
Oxygen Not Included in real life
@bryanhead2670
@bryanhead2670 4 жыл бұрын
Bedroom needs to be large,,small single bed is no good if intertaining!
@KevinHuegel
@KevinHuegel Жыл бұрын
Another pie-in-the-sky, ridiculous, impractical, expensive scheme designed to make some company rich. When the Pilgrams came here from Europe they didn't bring along a 3d printer and some computer driven robot dune buggies. They brought some whiskey and beer, along with axes and guns, and built houses from natural resources that were already here. That's the kind of solution needed- build from resources already there with simple tools and good old imagination. And some whiskey and beer wouldn't hurt either!
@rookwood4175
@rookwood4175 4 жыл бұрын
We should probably figure out how to live on this planet successfully before we spread to another planet.
@jamesburleson1916
@jamesburleson1916 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the last 25,000 years have demonstrated that humans are quite capable of surviving on Earth. If you were hoping to solve the world's problems before heading off to Mars, then we'll never get there. There are too many petty, vindictive, and downright cruel people in this world to ever properly "fix" it. There is also the consideration that others might not agree with your ideas of a perfect Earth. There is far more to gain by learning how to thrive in an environment more hostile than anything on Earth, then there is by trying to solve world hunger or end war here on Earth before exploring the wider universe.
@akinnon2000
@akinnon2000 4 жыл бұрын
We need aquaponics not hydroponics...
@ManuelBTC21
@ManuelBTC21 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't consider this viable before we have robots that can do all of this on earth, starting from materials gathering all the way until the whole habitat is constructed without a single human intervention.
@guiltazaour2871
@guiltazaour2871 4 жыл бұрын
gravity btw
@konushomes
@konushomes 4 жыл бұрын
Book and bed on mars??? give me this money (transport) and im sleep on the floor and read e-tech instruction.
@15DjjC13
@15DjjC13 4 жыл бұрын
This feels like a highschool science project... The equipment needed to make this work is hundreds of times heavier then just sending a prefab habitat... What they failed to mention in this video is all of the equipment needed to extract the resources from the martian soils. This would entail a huge factory worth of equipment... The next hurdle is getting this thing sealed and pressure ready. I can't imagine this being air tight let alone be able to be pressurized. The idea that you can print the structure then have people add in the furniture and alliances later simply wont work.... try building a house without opening a door or window ... ever .... Just no...
@alexanderfl-ts3171
@alexanderfl-ts3171 4 жыл бұрын
Concrete are bad idea, it is not airtight, it is even not fully watertight - water soak into concrete like into sponge. To make it sealed need plastic binder, need a lot of plastic. Thats first issue i see.
@mischaangst
@mischaangst 4 жыл бұрын
I think you are wrong in all points. Hollow criticism is all I can read from your text.
@15DjjC13
@15DjjC13 4 жыл бұрын
@@mischaangst I'm a mechanical engineer with years in the aerospace industry and have over 5 years of 3d printing experience. I own 3 printers. From my knowledge of the field at hand this feels half cooked...
@mischaangst
@mischaangst 4 жыл бұрын
@@15DjjC13 seems to be not enough. In addition as a mech engineer you should be widely more open in more multisectoral disciplines then you show up here. What I ask you for is just think then speak. I try the same. First proof highly possible failure, then speak your mind. I own myself 3D printers I built them and I'm a systems engineer. I think you are just jealous it wasn't you who solved their problem. Difficulties don't mean unsolvable.
@15DjjC13
@15DjjC13 4 жыл бұрын
@@mischaangst Mischa I have thought about this problem, and I stand by what I have said here. I do have an open mind for many disciplines... Including materials engineering, industrial engineering and physics. I'm really not sure what I said to have you jumping down my throat about this. A concrete type substance is exactly opposite of the ideal material for any pressure vessel. These materials are normally optimal in a compression type application. Tension is their weakest attribute. There is a reason pressure vessels are made from metals or composites. Not ceramic... If you look at the printer rover, you will not convince me that that is the most elegant solution. It looks like a series of grabcad models glued together. If you can think of a mechanical way of joining the printed sections in an air tight fashion, with the non uniform longitudinal layer lines complicating things to the point of obsurdity, let me know. The quary needed to gather the materials from the soil would be a engineering nightmare on its own. Most material treatment and separation we do on earth involves the use of water. This couldn't be done on Mars as it would freeze or boil off due to lack of pressure. So you would need to invent a new way of separating the elements of the soil mechanically. Again not impossible but obsurd at scale. And to cap it off they are talking about this entire thing being completely autonomous. Another layer of complexity that would make all these tasks exponentially harder to solve. The best engineers find a way to accomplish their task by making the solution elegant and simple. Form follows function when it comes to a life support system. It doesn't need to look like cute gnome homes that look good on a clickbait screen cap. For the imidiate future I see prefab modules being landed and assembled. For the future a better solution would be to send a rover that has tunneling equipment onboard, you could have a polymer material and catalyst. This could be used to reinforce the interior of the excavation with a expanding foam / epoxy type material, this would be air tight. The ground around the tunnel would support the air pressure within. The small rover could easily create huge amounts of space underground that would be easier to heat, cool, and pressurize. All with a minimal of equipment being landed on Mars. I am not jealous of these people at all. I stand by everything I said and I think you are being a hypocrite. I have backed up everything I have said yet you have not given anything to defend their claims.
@ВладимирГр-э5ъ
@ВладимирГр-э5ъ 4 жыл бұрын
Нахуя такие сложности не проще ли З А К А П Ы В А Т Ь С Я под марсианский грунт в надувных жилищах????????????
@lhtyeehaw1319
@lhtyeehaw1319 4 жыл бұрын
Гугл переводчик?
@nicholasthien5515
@nicholasthien5515 4 жыл бұрын
All this explanation is useless unless we build a prototype of this city on earth . To check the pro on con of it results
@lrdnalrd
@lrdnalrd 5 жыл бұрын
i thought venus was more earth like.
@blurryflag6466
@blurryflag6466 5 жыл бұрын
Venus is more hell like
@TheWheels1965
@TheWheels1965 4 жыл бұрын
More BS and wasting more money! Wake people! look around you!
@jacobbosley2425
@jacobbosley2425 4 жыл бұрын
Too complex, heavy, and reliant on materials from off planet.
@shannonlove4328
@shannonlove4328 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be the most artsy, overly complicated system I could think off. It must have dozens of failure points that can only be repaired in earth. A nuclear furnace to bake bricks would be simple and they could be stacked by hand if necessary.
@joebloe1401
@joebloe1401 3 жыл бұрын
and don't forget print me some blow-up dolls--which should inflate automatically
@Derived_One
@Derived_One 4 жыл бұрын
What bothers me, Mars doesn't have flowing water. In other words, digging and using compressed soil would probably make a little more sense. Dig deep enough and Geo-thermal heat could be utilized.
@UnaSheil
@UnaSheil 4 жыл бұрын
Your right about the digging but the core of mars is way cooler than ours that's why she is a dead planet
@aha9283
@aha9283 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use all the plastic here on earth to build home on mars?
@willcabamba8262
@willcabamba8262 4 жыл бұрын
I have an idea that I have been pondering for years and wondered if this would work in 0 g space. Make a doubled walled tent made of whatever material that would hold up well in space. Ok, picture a doubled wall tent with about a 2" gap between the two walls of the tent, and put small nylon or any other material cords randomly through out the structure to keep the two walls the same with apart from each other. Now fill this gap between the two walls with spray fome insulation so that it will form a polystyrene wall inside the two layers of the tent.The little ropes between the two layers will direct the foam to expand laterally within the two walls and make the walls somewhat even size.Small hollow tubes could run between the two walls with little holes in the sides of the tubes to distribute the foam more evenly. This would be also useful here on earth as well,as easy structures that may be in hard to reach locations, What does any one think? Could this work? .
@EaglePicking
@EaglePicking 4 жыл бұрын
It could work. But it's far more efficiënt to use as much surface material as possible.
@the20thDoctor
@the20thDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
There's a company called Bigelow Aerospace, you should check 'em out. Edit: here ya go! kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5-oZIiFZtCkrJI
@crp9985
@crp9985 4 жыл бұрын
Bigelow.....the problem has already been solved.
@3gunslingers
@3gunslingers 4 жыл бұрын
Will Even before Bigelow there was this idea: app.box.com/s/jix7zu3wbp03a6gdc8k1qcei00oa29xb an expandable habitat for the Apollo lander.
@jagdpanzer6689
@jagdpanzer6689 4 жыл бұрын
When I read it, I remember my cleanroom design project, I don't know if that's what you mean but I did doubled-wall for an air space and polyesterene material but no nylon thing on it plus cleanroom is pressurized and had comfort temperature of 25 degree celsius. Not quite sure if we we're doing it right. That's what comes to my mind in what you said. And cleanroom is used to manufacturing spacecraft and electronics to avoid dust and microparticles.
@matthewjacobs141
@matthewjacobs141 Жыл бұрын
Looking good for a second or even third-generation habitat...If you have ever spent time on a construction site, machines are constantly breaking down, equipment isn't working, and parts don't fit....to build this complicated a design IMO will need Humans on site. Again IMO I'm a big believer in the KISS method as whatever can go wrong ...WILL GO WRONG
@AdrianDucao
@AdrianDucao 2 жыл бұрын
lol you can't even put housing on those smuck in California and New York
@Glathgrundel
@Glathgrundel 2 жыл бұрын
I think any colony would have to have substantial underground facilities, especially if lava tubes can be located near a water ice source. Larger underground bases, connected to above ground buildings would have the radiation shielding and ability to expand easily, plus the risk of depressurisation would be manageable. A subterranean transport system, connecting several surface stations would make travelling between various facilities safer, less resource hungry and less vulnerable to weather and road/rail obscuration due to sandstorms. Vast lava tubes are thought to exist on Mars, and their benefits should not be neglected by humans used to living above ground.
@ShadowPuppet3001
@ShadowPuppet3001 4 жыл бұрын
looks livable pick me to go to mars :)
@jacobdaniel3890
@jacobdaniel3890 Ай бұрын
That rover is unnecessary big
@wdd3141
@wdd3141 4 жыл бұрын
Pardon my naïveté, but for Mars and several other bodies in the solar system I'd prefer subterranean construction, as in lava tubes on Earth's Moon, to protect from the outer environment. If we were to build on the surface, I'd prefer a structure reminiscent of an iceberg, where most of the ice is below the surface of the water -- that is, most floors of the building would be below ground level, again as protection from the outer environment. I like the idea of printed habitats, but I'd like to see the gathering of regolith for building material done partly as excavation to make room for the underground floors.
@JamesRobertSmith
@JamesRobertSmith 3 жыл бұрын
Way cool video for something that will never happen.
@Caktusdud.
@Caktusdud. 4 жыл бұрын
oh and you guys and AI space factory need to come together then space x to get you guys there i see potential as as a three one can focus on habitat, transportation and the mission itself. the materials selected are good this how i see it happening, space x gets you there, you guys get the a massive main shell printed about 600mm thick, AI space factory creates the interior at the same time after a level of the main shell has been printed, then the combined logistics arrive and then a super habitat has been created.
@garyszanko
@garyszanko 4 жыл бұрын
There is not a lot of room for bringing paper books over... just as nasa shifted towards digital uploads of movies to ISS instead of bringing up DVDs.
@dudaduda271
@dudaduda271 11 ай бұрын
Come out builning and death
@thomasucc
@thomasucc 4 жыл бұрын
Well the humans in this look almost suicidal
@Windows11Guy798
@Windows11Guy798 4 жыл бұрын
MY BRAIN IT HURTS FROM ALL THIS INFORMATION!
@pyclan5
@pyclan5 4 жыл бұрын
the first big thing is how to survive the journey, especially radiation. then you can plan whatever bull is in this video. I bet nothing is going to happen in the near future. Make one on the Moon first and try to survive couple of years then we can talk Mars. And it's not endurance but endeavor crater. And yeah cork will protect you against radiation lmao. Nice presentation animation, but show us the real thing. I bet it's 10 times harder in reality then what you're showing us here.
@Alignedtop
@Alignedtop 4 жыл бұрын
You bet a lot. I bet no one cares about your pessimism. Heres the link for it being done in real life Dumbass. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6nRpn-bpa-onNU
@rodney73991
@rodney73991 4 жыл бұрын
so much greek look city on mars all look coil coffee mug from hight school art class. witch class how people mad clay pots before potting wheels. was consider primitive way do it.
@rodney73991
@rodney73991 4 жыл бұрын
still hold hope stone art carvers make cool red sculptures in stone.
@thebritishjay955
@thebritishjay955 4 жыл бұрын
mulitpule things one is the seals how can they be fully sealed when they are put in lst one worng movement of them being put in could case strutural failure and more problems later on in the structures life, another is how do you find and mine the materials and how do you process the differnt grains of the dirt to the correct size for proper printing as if the peice is to big it could clog up the system making it inoperable
@3gunslingers
@3gunslingers 4 жыл бұрын
You are good at finding problems. But you are not good at thinking about solutions or formulating proper sentences.
@thebritishjay955
@thebritishjay955 4 жыл бұрын
@@3gunslingers im dyslexic mate also i havent got a single idea of how they could fix it, im just pointing out a possible problem that they could improve on
@3gunslingers
@3gunslingers 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebritishjay955 _" im dyslexic mate"_ I'm sorry to hear that. Punctuation would help for a start.
@prestonbuckner4300
@prestonbuckner4300 2 жыл бұрын
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