NASA Needs SpaceX To Destroy ISS, Space Suit Maker Gives Up - Deep Space Updates June 28th

Deep space updates for June 28th:
China Returns From Far Side of Moon
Firefly reveal new launch sites.
SpaceX slaps its booster.
Dreamchaser will have to wait until 2025.
ISS destruction duty to SpaceX
Collins Aerospace gets out of the space suit business.
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[@erikkrutoi]

I hope SpaceX calls the ISS deorbit vehicle "Untitled Space Craft".

[@erikkrutoi]

idk why I'm thinking this way

[@simontautorat1014]

I would sighn that petition

[@arjensmit6684]

I hope they will fit camera's to both the deorbit vehicle and the space station itself and broadcast the reentry of the station live on internet ! This is going to be so much more cool even than just 1 melting flap.

[@erikkrutoi]

@@arjensmit6684 yep, we are going full kerbal there

[@erikkrutoi]

@@arjensmit6684 like in /r/kspmemes the tom hanks post

[@edmontontangobar4991]

Sad to de-orbit the ISS, there's something comforting knowing there's folks up there from different countries successfully cooperating, doing science, learning to live in space and depending on each other.

[@Scanner9631]

The Chinese station will still be there and by then it might have Russians aboard not to mention North Koreans and Iranians.

[@lolmao500]

@@Scanner9631 So itll be the space station full of the worst people on the planet

[@gorilladisco9108]

2029, alien spaceship approach and board the ISS. The scheduled ISS retirement is postponed. And the alien agree to attach their ship onto ISS. It's the birth of City Of A Thousand Planets,

[@ernestcline2868]

The ISS doesn't do much science that requires a human crew, and most of that is done on the crew. Other than the PR value of human space flight, there's little justification for a manned space station at present.

[@rh906]

Freedom Station is a go! If Russia is the big bad evil, we shouldn't be cooperating in space.

[@joyl7842]

Please don't think all Europeans agree with what ESA is stating. Not investing in reusability has been an obvious mistake for many years now and whoever is in charge of continuing that train of thought is an absolute turd.

[@dphuntsman]

That would be the head of ESA Space Transportation, unfortunately.

[@M167A1]

It is a very European style political move though. They don't like troublemakers or disruptors.

[@Immanatum]

Who will pay for reusability? In the US Starlink investors are paying for reusability, in China - government(I won't be surprised if they will copypaste Starlink network just like anything else) . Europe doesn't need a vehicle with reusability option simply because there is nothing to launch so often.

[@jonahhekmatyar]

​@@Immanatummaybe europeans would have more stuff to launch if it was actually affordable. How many universities, private industry, smaller government payloads would benefit from an affordable ticket on a rocket? If every launch costs 150 million euros then the only satellites that ever get launched will be massive hundred million euro endeavors.

[@paulholmes672]

And the Unions (just like ULA) would go on strike if they couldn't build a multi-million dollar tube of disposable aluminum for the rest of time. Starlink is NOT paying for re-usability, but benefiting by it. Starlink users ARE paying for StarShip development.

[@rocketsocks]

For future reference: if you are witnessing a rocket trailing a red/orange cloud crashing to Earth, don't stop running away.

[@Hairintd]

afaik if you have smelled UDMH, you dead already

[@PetrPss]

I don't know. If it's not falling directly on your head, might be useful to measure wind direction first.

[@jeffbohmann5435]

​@@PetrPss yes you may want to confirm if you are "running down the train tracks" to escape the train.

[@TubbyJ420]

I went to china, and all i got was chewed up by escalators, ate poison food, and then a rocket fell onto my house made of fake crumbling concrete. But at least nothing bad happened at tiananmen square.

[@M167A1]

GAS GAS GAS

[@eddjordan2399]

i want rocket labs 60th launch to be called "we've run out of clever names"

[@thesolarfutureenthusiast1102]

The 61st should be called "We'll think of something soon" if the do that.

[@xodiaq]

#62 - It’s on the tip of our tongues…

[@meltysquirrel2919]

"We can't even think of a word that rhymes" 😂 Alice Cooper named it for them well in advance! 😛

[@Scanner9631]

Just call the their 60th launch "60 more than Blue Origin"

[@SubTroppo]

How about "Space-Trash-In-Waiting McTrash 1" and then just stop launching until "they" can actually do 'deep-space' and leave the Solar system.

[@private1177]

Boeing: can we have loose bolts? Starliner: Best i can do is Helium leak.

[@ralanham76]

Maybe star liner has explosive bolts we don’t know about 🤪

[@dzonikg]

Bolts are engineered to fall off during reentry

[@Tevon93]

@@dzonikgThey must use the same bolts for their aircraft.

[@cmdraftbrn]

and all i hear is the terran science vessel having a helium leak from sc1

[@ofrikirshen3071]

Can totally see boeing accidentally ordering explosive bolts ​@@ralanham76

[@AgileGeoff]

I can not get enough of those twin booster landings 🤩

[@MaximumMatador]

The original twin booster landing from 2018 is what got me into engineering

[@manuwilson4695]

When I first watched them it was like a science fiction movie...come true!!!😲

[@seasonallyferal1439]

It's insane that a Falcon 9 launching is just a normal day. Every other launch is a big deal and rare occurrence.

[@WDMtea]

Man I used to love watching those launches live, now I just catch on the news the next day. Hence why I am watch this vid

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

When I hear about it I just go “oh another one? Huh”

[@robertmiller9735]

That's how it ought to be. Until space launch is as routine as airliners taking off, there won't be a real space frontier.

[@rh906]

Only because people care about those other rockets for some reason.

[@OblivionNoMore]

Its because secretly people want to see them fail. Elon has all the kinks worked out so not much of a chance of that anymore

[@ReadTheShrill]

Regarding the decommissioning of the ISS: I was a kid of nine or ten when Skylab was deorbited (most of it) burned up on reentry. It was a big story. I know now that it was empty, of course, but at the time, no one ever explicitly told me, "the astronauts have all left Skylab, there's no one aboard." And what did I know? I was a kid. So at the back of my mind, I felt so sad and sorry for the astronauts who died onboard, and none of the adults were even talking about them - it was surreal. Honestly, it was a little psychologically scarring. I guess what I'm saying is, if you have a little kid who is into space stuff when the ISS comes down, and they take an interest in it, you should make it clear to them that no one is onboard, even if they don't ask.

[@DeepThought42]

I guess you're not Australian as I was a kid, too, so we knew all about it as it came down in our region with some debris falling in an uninhabited desert area. It was clear to me that no one was on board, so I guess you didn't get as much talk where you were as we did, given the risk of it falling on us!

[@marcogenovesi8570]

"most of it" is a bit of a lie but ok

[@Redact63Lluks]

You weren't that into space stuff if you thought that... Sounds like narrow minded tism issues.

[@ligmasack9038]

"You've unlocked a new Acheivement: Tism-Touch"!

[@msromike123]

Maybe you should have asked your parents about it?

[@michaelimbesi2314]

This rock return mission is actually pretty scientifically important. It’ll give us a lot of information that will give us an idea whether or not the Late Heavy Bombardment was real.

[@SumbluddyIdiut]

Or graphene.

[@robloggia]

I'm hoping it is. The problem is China doesn't have a good track record of sharing mission information.

[@TamagoHead]

The “Father” of Chinese Rocketry was US educated, and as an ally during WWII, he helped to analyze the V2. He was deported back to China due to communist fears, and someone notable said that his deportation was a stupid move.

[@felipel.r.637]

Yup, Asianometry videos rule

[@Neuttah]

Isn't he also the very ironic reason for ITAR?

[@tissuepaper9962]

"You know that guy that knows more about rockets and missiles and supersonic aerodynamics than *literally* any other person on the planet?" "Yeah." "Yeah, let's fuck with that guy's life and livelihood and then deliver him directly into the hands of our sworn enemy." "Brilliant!"

[@xponen]

China & Russia was an ally to US during WWII but betrayed due to communist fear. Also, V2 is German made rocket.

[@TheJustinJ]

Enemy of an enemy. Not an Ally. Japan attacked Perl Harbor because the US press was beginning to publicize the Japanese mistreatment of Chinese. The US was beginning to support China due to their misfortune. Unfortunately, after the War with Japan. There was a vacuum of power which dozens of warlords attempted to fight for. The most friendly to the US was Chaing Kai-Shek who had proven himself in WWII against Japan and have a very favorable opinion of the US. Unfortunately, Communist ideology swept through China, fueled by the USSR. Chinese wanted a radical change, and they got just that when they fought to promote Mao into power.

[@acanuck1679]

The "falling booster" video clip was unsettling. Frankly, the level of contempt exhibited by CNAS for the people living down range of Xichang is shocking.

[@lordgarion514]

China launches from deep inside their country for security reasons. Our government allows fossil fuel processing plants pollute so bad, we can the area around them are known as cancer alleys. But a lot of diseases happen at much higher rates. And our government allows it just so the companies can make more profit, and while taxpayers are paying for the medical costs.

[@potatofuryy]

Yeah I got some Intelsat 708 vibes. I wonder if that’s happened more times and we just don’t know about it.

[@rayjay848]

Yet unsurprising.

[@caldodge]

It's a rounding error, when compared to the tens of millions killed directly, or via insane policies.

[@xitheris1758]

They have no incentive to care. It's not like any Chinese official will lose re-election for not doing anything about it. All hail the Collective!

[@boblynch2802]

My dad worked at ILC when they were making the spacesuits (70s/80s ish). I met many of the folks who worked there. Great people all. They were very proud of what they and they took the approach that they them selves would have to wear those suits. There is an excellent documentary you must watch about ILC, it is called "Moon Machines - The Space Suit". Moon Machines - The Space Suit.

[@scottmerrow7617]

Could you please leave a link to U.S./ILC space suit vacuum chamber testing? I can't seem to find much testing when there have been hundreds of designs over the years.

[@alora_dsatalin6517]

I hope once SpaceX attaches the deorbiter they turn around to NASA and say "Jokes in you this is a orbit booster"

[@tetsujin_144]

and then instead of getting paid for the job they can be sued for messing it up

[@kain0m]

​@@tetsujin_144the memelord likes lawsuits, so that would fit him perfectly.

[@welcherg]

So basically For All Mankind Season 4

[@NullHand]

They could claim salvage???

[@Thefreakyfreek]

Dont ask for permission ask for forgiveness

[@muxiku]

Finally someone that doesn't exagerate on the Starliner situation, thanks Scott

[@LordFalconsword]

There's no need to exaggerate, it's a embarrassment and near disaster for Boeing. The astronauts are in no danger, as long as they don't try and come home in that kludge.

[@user-uo5eu6yk1b]

@@LordFalconsword "There's no need to exaggerate", followed by you yourself literally exaggerating.

[@SynchronizorVideos]

I did some engineering consulting for Boeing in the 2010s, and also have a brother who used to work for them as an engineer. I know Boeing is a mess. But it still really annoys me when the press takes every opportunity to blow every tiny thing out of proportion like with Starliner, or even blame them for things that are in no way Boeing’s fault. Awhile back an older 737’s engine cover blew off in flight because someone doing maintenance didn’t latch it. Of course all the headlines were along the lines of “Boeing engine falls apart mid-flight!”, even though it’s the airline who’s responsible for maintenance, and Boeing doesn’t even make those engines in the first place.

[@Shrouded_reaper]

​@@user-uo5eu6yk1b The craft rapidly developed more leaks from launch all the way to docking. Who's to say its not going to develop more on the way back? Or experience a catastrophic failure? Going to bat for this trash heap is embarrassing. Imagine the headlines if this was a SpaceX capsule...

[@robbybobbyhobbies]

Not normally given to conspiracy , but I'm beginning to wonder if some troll farm somewhere has been paid to flood the comments of all space-related channels with moronic mother's-basement-dwelling-knucklehead attacks on Boeing. It's a test flight for goodness' sake.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

0:52 the phrase internet of things is one I forgot about, dear lord no thank you

[@henningerhenningstone691]

Right? Since "AI" has become the new frontline buzzword, "IoT" has somewhat faded out of existence

[@tangydiesel1886]

The headline made me think of Professor Farnsworth shouting "Dooooom"

[@M167A1]

It's the end of the world, I always thought he would have a hand in it.

[@wangruochuan]

Bad news everyone! The helium tank we built used cheap Chinese titanium.

[@dosmastrify]

"oh yeees"

[@KidCorporate]

To shreds, you say?

[@andyyang5234]

If NASA is going to destroy the ISS anyways, can SpaceX try to bring pieces of it down by Starship before it goes? I mean, the worse that could happen is that it gets destroyed, no? Even if bringing down entire modules is impossible, I'd still think a few specific components could make interesting museum artifacts, such as the Canadarm, or the almost-named-Colbert space toilet.

[@AluminumOxide]

Starship can theoretically carry disassembled modules in its payload bay and return them to Earth for museum display.

[@RingingResonance]

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if the ISS gets more budget money to continue the mission and fix it up by replacing modules and de-orbiting old ones. I say this because you can't just budget for operations only until the the budget runs out. You have to budget for EVERYTHING including EOL de-orbit costs. If they get more money, then it will stay up longer. Right now it looks like the budget is set to end by ~2030 and thus that's it de-orbit date because you can't just let something like that sit up there due to uncontrolled de-orbit and debris coming down.

[@jonesrichardmr]

Starship probably won't be ready to carry any sort of reasonable payload by the time it's time to deorbit the ISS.

[@bluesteel8376]

@@RingingResonance A new space station is being built using the ISS right now. They are adding on new modules, which will eventually detach into a new station. The old station is not worth the maintenance headaches.

[@tangydiesel1886]

You could downmass small inside things in cargo dragon. But I think they pretty much max out volume/mass every time it returns just with experiments, unless they make extra trips. There's also a version of progress capable of reentry, but I think starliner has flown more than it had.

[@tjlastname5192]

Man, I’m so sick of the, “astronauts are stranded in space with only 45 days to be rescued,” headlines. Then I try to tell people that they aren’t stuck that they can take Dragon or Soyuz to get home if the other can’t do it. I got to be honest, I’d be nervous getting back into that thing with the problems it has had, but they aren’t stranded up there.

[@craigriddell1169]

Can the Boeing Starliner pressure suits plug into the Space X lifesupport system ? Are they easily compatible with standardized connections ?

[@joe92]

@@craigriddell1169 Not at all

[@philb5593]

Right, no big deal. Heck, not to long ago Frank Rubio actually moved his Soyuz seat into Dragon Crew-5 when MS-22 had that coolant leak. The Russians still would have rode MS-22 in an emergency, but Frank would have returned in Dragon as a 5th passenger in an emergency. If something was actually wrong the Boeing crew would shelter in Dragon.

[@tjlastname5192]

@@craigriddell1169 if this were truly an emergency, I don’t think they would be so worried about the suits. Also I would hope we learned our lesson on that after Apollo 13.

[@integralsuspect]

I honestly don't follow the ins-and-outs of the ISS that closely, but I do recall hearing that there's always (generally?) a Soyuz-TMA capsule docked as a lifeboat, which was increased to two capsules when the standard occupancy was doubled to 6 persons. The tl;dr: being that everyone has 1.5 to 2.0 seats available to them (on average) to ride home in an emergency. I don't understand why there is such drama over the leak, other than "hur hur Boeing".

[@charlescouncill]

“Hell, no!! I’m staying right here in the ISS. I’m not getting back in Starliner. Send a Dragon for me!”

[@colinmaynard2879]

Do you think when they bring the ISS down Starliner will still be attached? 🤫

[@bluesteel8376]

The max time Starliner will be at the ISS is 45 days.

[@jantjarks7946]

45 days is the operational limit, after it it should be undocked and burned up in the atmosphere for safety reasons alone. The crew would have to hitch a ride with something else, which is effectively limited to the Dragon capsule. But we will see if both astronauts can return with the Starliner itself.

[@tsufordman]

It's taking up a valuable docking station. It will be coming back one way or another.

[@dzonikg]

@@jantjarks7946 YOu are optimist when you say that detachment mechanism will work

[@jantjarks7946]

@@dzonikg I have no doubt that the ISS works.

[@daveoatway6126]

It is really nice that the Falcon 9 launches are so frequent and reliable that they are boring!

[@joe92]

FYI, the Shuttle suits were built by ILC and Hamilton Standard initially. ILC built the "soft goods" and HS built the PLSS. Hamilton Standard become Hamilton Sundstrand, then United Technologies Aerospace, then Collins Aerospace. I'm not surprised they backed out of the contract; my experience with them is that they can't seem to get out of their own way.

[@ba1717]

They're a supplier for us on a different space program & a complete disaster

[@scottmerrow7617]

Did either of those companies actually test their suits in real vacuum chambers? Got links?

[@HidingAllTheWay]

You don't seem to have mentioned it in your recent videos, but Stoke Space successfully test fired their new full-flow staged-combustion engine on a test stand on June 11th. It's really impressive for a new player to successfully produce such an ambitious design, especially since apparently the entire design and prototyping process took only 18 months. Combined with their combination actively cooled heatshied/semi-aerospike engine on the fully reusable second stage it promises to be an extremely interesting rocket from engineering perspective.

[@philofthefuture1570]

I'm excited for Stoke space.

[@AndrewBlucher]

I'm Stoked!

[@judet2992]

Russian satellite breakups giving me Gravity flashbacks:

[@AndrewBlucher]

It's ok, we can use our backpack thrusters to get to the Chinese space station!

[@guillermoelnino]

That movie was trash.

[@judet2992]

@@guillermoelnino bruh how

[@guillermoelnino]

@@judet2992 i'm not saying it wasn't entertaining. But it was trash. BRUH.

[@judet2992]

@@guillermoelnino how so? Definitely heart pounding, and I know all about the inaccuracies. The stations being that close would be hilarious even in KSP with how small Kerbin is, let alone compared to the sheer massiveness of Earth.

[@nokbeen3654]

No matter how many times I see it, I never get tired of watching those two boosters come down and land.

[@pauldorman]

I wish there was a designated museum orbit for historically important space artefacts like the ISS.

[@Goldengirl48]

Do you understand how BIG that thing is? The ISS was sent up in sections in the space shuttle cargo area. Then, the solar arays add width to it by hundreds, maybe even thousands of feet to the sides of the modules. It was never meant to return to earth.

[@jeremy-shepard]

​@@Goldengirl48 I think they mean a dedicated orbit where it stays forever so people could visit it many years from now. I don't think it's possible, but a cool thought.

[@pauldorman]

@@Goldengirl48 Why would you think I was suggesting it be returned to earth?

[@saiboogu]

The issue isn't a lack of place to put it --- the issue is a lack of ability to put it anyplace more stable than it is. A "museum orbit" would need to be far higher than ISS has ever been, and take far more resources than deorbiting it. And then it's still a huge complex machine that needs to be maintained so it doesn't break down (like batteries exploding, coolant circuits breaching, etc) and send debris out.

[@Lowkeh]

​​@@Goldengirl48 They're talking about moving it to a different orbit. Deorbiting the ISS reminds me of the "peace crimes" that were the scrapping of USS Enterprise (CV-6) and HMS Warspite instead of keeping them as museum ships. (So, I'm definitely a fan of OP's idea of having a specific museum orbit)

[@jimcabezola3051]

Sadly, International Rescue and Thunderbirds 3 and 5 can't fetch the people out of the ISS...

[@patrikhjorth3291]

Quick! Someone call Matt Lowne!

[@jimcabezola3051]

@@patrikhjorth3291 KSP forever!

[@johnbuchman4854]

IR could stage the rescue, but there would be strings attached...

[@jimcabezola3051]

@@johnbuchman4854 🤣🤣🤣 Shucks! Not even Captain Scarlet could untie THOSE knots!

[@thesolarfutureenthusiast1102]

Brains will think of something 🙂

[@chrishavel]

“Scott Manley: astronomer, hacker, gamer, and DJ.”

[@misdangered4326]

Sounds like a gravestone someone might uncover on the Moon in a few thousand years time…

[@HardRockMaster7577]

"Space Jam DJ"

[@budgiefriend]

And a pilot.

[@irri4662]

I think SpaceX needs to step up and make a proper external space suit. Its a hard problem. But , that's were SpaceX shines.

[@craigmoore8341]

I love that starlink launches are now boring. That itself is so impressive for space travel.

[@ThatOpalGuy]

Had RocketLab launched this they could have called the mission: Goes Crew Yourself

[@michaelwilliams2593]

Getting fully ready to leave the ISS must take many hours to do. Ouch

[@thesolarfutureenthusiast1102]

It should be pretty quick, they don't have much to pack or many choices of what to wear 🙂

[@EJ_WA]

Yeah not really, it's all going to burn up, well like 95% will burn up. The other 5% will crash in the ocean and give rise to Godzilla 🤞

[@Scanner9631]

@@EJ_WA It is supposed to land in the U.S. If it mostly achieves that target and crashes in the U.S. desert it should not create Godzilla but the Giant Gila Monster.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@EJ_WA the amount that will "burn up" is greatly exaggerated, it will break into many pieces but most of the wreckage will reach splashdown

[@marcogenovesi8570]

donning the suits in freefall is slow, some onboard systems must be thawed from a sleep mode that may or may not work at the first try (Soyuz looking at you), and all checks to make sure that nothing got broken while in orbit also take time.

[@thePronto]

The Chinese dumping toxic boosters on unsuspecting villagers is *really* not a good look. What happened to the notion of 'the collective good'?

[@Combatant5]

Welcome to Authoritarian regimes.

[@GregAbott-sl2bo]

The 'collective good' means....the good of the government. Not the people. Why would the CCCP care if a few dozen villagers are hurt, if it means China can advance its space tech.

[@TheOwenMajor]

Welcome to socialism. Where the means of production belong to the community, AKA you belong to the community, AKA you belong to the government. And you are replaceable.

[@PetrPss]

'The collective good' ? Wrong planet, mate.

[@danielpaulson8838]

They should learn from us and dump their toxic rocket waste in the ocean.

[@john_smithchiropractor3931]

Bird at 4:16 be like “What’s everyone looking at?”

[@radarmusen]

At 4:14 it looks like it’s flying behind the rocket flame. Maybe it was the bird from the The Giant Claw

[@erewnoh]

"The Business End" as the name for the SpaceX ship that deorbits the ISS or bust.

[@MCsCreations]

Thanks for the updates, Scott! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@aaronstarbird6239]

Love your content, can you please start providing chapters for each category for those times we are looking for a particular topic.

[@kristinabegail]

6:38 I think it’s high time for the Blunderbirds make its grand return :D Jk, but who else wants the Blunderbirds to come back?

[@TheChoyamoya]

Love these updates

[@GlennTillema]

@16:07 Cool to see the shadow of the Space Shuttle passing over the ISS, nice clip choice Scott!

[@deanhillsnexus]

Excellent update Scott and so much more meat than in the media releases - you manage to bring it all together with plenty of sober minded insights. Nice to get more factual information about China launches. Best of luck with tomorrow's presentation at the Chabot Space & Science Centre - Asteroid day. Dead certain your presentation is going to be excellent and would be great if you could post it up here! Looking forward to more news updates like this one.

[@Tincanham]

Instead of dream chaser, they should put up ham radio satellites

[@DrToddles]

SpaceX, "yeh nah, let's go to Mars, ISS"

[@AndrewBlucher]

Thanks, I really did LOL!

[@JZsBFF]

After all the trouble they went through to get that thing up there and considering the Mars ambition; one would expect that they would have decided to upgrade it... unless manned Mars is off the charts.

[@manythingslefttobuild]

Great update video Scott

[@DrTeddyMMM]

Thank you so very much, your comprehensive information is awesome!

[@davecurtis8833]

The Bennu news and images were amazing.

[@simontist]

"Dove" would be a good name for a Deorbit Vehicle.

[@privacyvalued4134]

Would be nice if NASA saved some part of the ISS for a museum. Not the whole thing, but maybe one of the labs and part of a solar panel. The ISS represents a fairly significant investment and it would kind of be terrible to just burn the whole thing up.

[@kirishima638]

The ISS is the greatest structure ever produced by mankind. It should be preserved.

[@blackterminal]

The Space Shuttle put a lot of work into building the ISS. Thanks for the video Scott.

[@michaelcomberiate2566]

Thanks to NASA contractors for joining SPACEX early on to enable the company to come this far so fast

[@lesliespeaker668]

Scott the Chinese are dumping their boosters into the country side a lot, that's the norm there. They don't give an F.

[@danielpaulson8838]

Where does everyone else’s go?

[@mskiptr]

@@danielpaulson8838 Into the ocean (or Kazakhstan | Siberia)

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​@@danielpaulson8838in the sea Where there arent people And no there havent been any cases of ships getting hit that i know of I do know of at least one case of a chinese rocket hitting a settelment (with video )

[@danielpaulson8838]

@@nikolaideianov5092 I like the whole planet. Not just parts I can see. Life is a little bigger than humans.

[@danielpaulson8838]

​@@nikolaideianov5092 Earth is why we are here.

[@BroDuke1]

Wonder how fast that guy that posted the Chinese rocket falling into a village disappeared

[@briandeschene8424]

Which guy? What post? What rocket? Nothing to see here, move along.

[@briandeschene8424]

Which guy? What village? What rocket? Nothing to see here, move along.

[@xixinan]

Probably slower than Boeing whistle blowers.

[@MicMc539]

Ask Julian Assange.

[@kneekoo]

6:46 To be fair, if a Dragon fails, SpaceX can send another Dragon even from another human-rated launch pad, on a rescue mission.

[@thomaspinklington7699]

Not sure NASA would be too comfortable with sending up a spacecraft which just had a critical failure to rescue the astronauts

[@kneekoo]

Not all failures are design failures. So if one Dragon has a leak, it can be some worn valve that has nothing to do with another capsule.

[@thomaspinklington7699]

@@kneekoo sure, but the nature of the failure and the cause thereof would need to be investigated before they would be comfortable with sending up another one, which takes time.

[@kneekoo]

@@thomaspinklington7699 There's a number of failures that are obvious and can even be fixed on the pad. Starliner flew to the ISS with a known issue, not everything halts the mission for a long time.

[@andrewparker318]

Excited to see you tomorrow at Chabot!

[@evanm6739]

Chabot cheese?

[@WebberAerialImaging]

I wouldn't be too cocky about that as SpaceX has boosters that have flown nearly 50% of their total launches 😂

[@737smartin]

Not to mention that SpaceX was blazing a new path with civilian orbital launches using a 70 meter tall rocket capable of 13 tons to orbit… while RocketLab is messing around with an 18 meter tall rocket, capable of bringing about 0.33 tons to orbit. Excuse me if I don’t seem enthusiastic about RL reaching 50 launches a few months faster than SpaceX. 😂

[@chiphappened]

Dream Chaser is a “bitter pill” But hoping things stay on new schedule! ☮️

[@Gloubi06]

Great one! thanks so much for that!

[@dionysus2006]

Scott. Your channel is my one stop shopping for space news ! Thanks !

[@Pa11en]

I took the opportunity to block many clickbait sources during the starliner issues. I do not miss them. There are plenty of neutral centered sources to get information from without anyone that just uses clickbait on ANY subject.

[@leonardbakers]

How stunning and brave!

[@lethargogpeterson4083]

Never thought of using events like this to winnow news sources in such a conscious way. Good idea.

[@tangydiesel1886]

It stinks how many news sources have about the same journalism skills as someone from the National Inquirer.

[@joe92]

(cough) Alpha Tech (cough)

[@CompanionCube]

just don‘t consume content from news agencies, simple

[@Amoraszune]

OK, been watching for years, huge fan and all that. But: you REALLY need to have a can of IRN-BRU in your background setup! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@phucknuts.7065]

He might be a Tizer guy.

[@NoNicknameAtAll210]

I like the creative chaos on your desk, your studio is the dream of every 12 year old!!! Keep up your passion and great work!

[@General12th]

Hi Scott! Fly safe!

[@abc-coleaks-info3180]

The Chinese launch site Chi-Chang always drops a booster into that area. There are something like 34-villages that have to duck and pray. At least one person (14-year old girl) did not survive one. Her father got paid something on the order of the US equivalent of $247.00

[@yumazster]

That bloody 'we have many people' attitude. Good grief.

[@potatofuryy]

The 1996 incident is also horrifying

[@modonohue9980]

Do you have a source for that story about the girl.

[@abc-coleaks-info3180]

@@modonohue9980 yes, of course. Almost all of the channels that report the news out of China here on KZbin have it a simple search to locate them. I would give you the exact channel that I watched but they have already had several of their reporters accosted, beaten and jailed. The report, including video footage of both the booster in the father’s yard and the interview (translated) were included. It was even covered by Radio Free Asia. They are definitely worth the search. Not just for this incident but to get an idea of just how bad the population there has it, how disgruntled and disenfranchised they have become with the CCP but especially their Premier. They also have no love for the people their own age who support the CCP and call them “Little Pinks”.

[@abc-coleaks-info3180]

@@modonohue9980 Believe it or not, my first reply which did not specifically name the source was deleted/blocked.

[@JeffBrazeel-fe4wc]

Kudos to Rocket Labs!

[@BhindiBhaji888]

Brilliant summary of all the interesting things going on at right now. Exciting times.

[@fullsenderman8291]

Love your videos scott always top tier

[@davidelang]

Elon did say that the tiles on the next flight would be twice as strong (half as likely to crack or break off) than the ones on IFT4

[@JohnSnowNW]

He's also known to exaggerate...to be fair.

[@davidelang]

@@JohnSnowNW that's true in terms of future plans and schedules, much less so in 'this is what we're doing now' But Scott said he thought the tiles would be the same as what were removed. They may not end up being 2x as good, but if they are expected to be ANY better, they aren't the same tiles.

[@BlackVoidAA]

As a Swede, I am super excited to maybe finally see an orbital rocket launch from Esrange!

[@thebluechurch6182]

Hey Scott - I just got back from a week-long training event and was able to see one of the GOES-U boosters landed at Cape Canaveral from on top of a Mercury-era blockhouse, since my training squadron took a trip over there. Incredible views of that massive thing sitting on four legs like a 16-story tall spider.

[@djohanson99]

Happy to hear successful launch of a Falcon Heavy. So happy😂

[@simontist]

Chopstick test: is that in real-time?!

[@MorzakEV]

It can’t be. I wondered what speed the footage was at. I’m guessing somewhere around 4x to 10x

[@Benaplus1]

You can see the convection in the background evolving much faster than real-time. I'd also guess about a 10x speed-up of the footage

[@simontist]

Just noticed the cable/string thing swinging below, definitely looks sped-up.

[@Grubbbee]

You've been a bad rocket...👋👋

[@AndrewBlucher]

Not, real time. It's a video that was recorded and then played back. It's not live either. And while we're discussing misused terms, no, it's not AI.

[@stanbrow]

Why was the Chinese booster trailing propellant? I would have thought it was all consumed.

[@tangydiesel1886]

One of the two propelants could of ran out before the other. Or the pressure was low enough that the engine shut down, but there still was some left. Or it reached its target altitude and simply shut down. Could even be something else. Rarely do rockets consume 100% of their propelant.

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​@@tangydiesel1886 everything rarely uses all of their fuel And spaciol equipment is needed to remove the rest The results could be seen in the tyhpoon cobra incident (Resulted in a CVE thats on fire and flooding at the same time)

[@brettwoodard167]

Thanks Scott, very interesting!

[@jamesgunn1606]

I was a furniture salesman in Las Cruses NM and was fortunate enough to be at White Sands and see a test flight of the DCX lander. Primitive now but cutting edge at the time

[@JamesArmstrong-fh4lt]

If it were necessary for a rescue of the Starliner astronauts would their current spacesuits be compatible with Dragon's systems?

[@imconsequetau5275]

No. The plumbing is different. The custom seats as well.

[@philb5593]

No, it’s not compatible, but a spacesuit is not necessary, space suits are only the backup system. Important to have but you can get away with it. Interestingly enough back when MS-22 had that coolant leak and they were waiting for MS-23 to replace it, NASA actually moved Frank Rubio’s Soyuz seat into Crew-5 Dragon in case of emergency.

[@sncy5303]

I hope NASA is slapping Collins with some hefty penalties for wasting the money they've already got for developing those suits.

[@tangydiesel1886]

Yeah, the whole point was for them to do it faster than they could.

[@watcherzero5256]

They actually agreed Collins had done enough development work to justify their paycheck (successfully completed ground testing) so it was a mutually agreed stop until fresh funds become available to restart with the final stage, in orbit testing.

[@frankgulla2335]

Scott, thanks for excellent summary of the world's space efforts.

[@daveangel2991]

Thank you for including the Falcon Heavy landing footage. I always find those incredible to watch.

[@danielpaulson8838]

GOES satellite. Geostationary, orbiting, environmental, satellite.

[@nolsp7240]

RID - Rapid intentional Disassembly. 😉

[@briandeschene8424]

Came here to type same comment but according to the plays-nice-with-others rules, you get dibs.

[@ralanham76]

Rapid international disassembly

[@AndrewBlucher]

Got RID of it!

[@SKYST0RY]

I love the Kerbal looking out the window of the rocket in the intro.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Great video, Scott...👍

[@SyntheticFuture]

The ISS being deorbited is surprisingly sad. Even though it's completely reasonable it's still sad. The most ambitious program that crossed borders for years. One of humanities greatest achievements. Just destroyed =(

[@FredsRandomFinds]

One I've been waiting for some time for an update on is Reaction Engine Sabre engine? Anyone heard anything on what is happening with that? Last I heard they were teaming up with various big name companies then it seems to have gone radio silent?

[@_starfiend]

Last I heard was they had gone bust.

[@thamiordragonheart8682]

I remember reading at some point that Flacon 9 has more payload at a lower cost with 10 flights per booster than Skylon with 200 flights per plane because the maintenance for the SABER engine would be so complex among other things. that was a while ago but I would bet the ratio has only gone more in Falcon 9's favor since. To manage SSTO performance the SABER engine is tuned the way you tune race car engines that have to be completely disassembled for maintainance after every race weekend, which makes reusability more expensive than a more traditional rocket. They're also trying to deal with two different oxidizers using the same injectors and combustion chamber. The heat exchanger is also inherently fragile because the walls have to be so thin to get the required heat transfer to cool the air by over 1000C when it's at Mach 5 at a viable weight. Skylon/SABER is so cool but the math just doesn't work out because the engine is so complex. If you want an SSTO, the most promising engine anyone's tested was probably the old Aerojet thrust augmented nozzle concept since it was sequential dual fuel and altitude compensating with effectively a variable throat and solid state thrust vectoring. That or the old RD-701 from the Russian MAKS spaceplane design, which was also sequential dual fuel.

[@AndrewBlucher]

​@@thamiordragonheart8682I have never done the math on SSTO, so I wonder how much Super Heavy would have to be scaled to get to orbit.

[@thamiordragonheart8682]

@@AndrewBlucher I've heard somewhere that the Falcon 9 booster can make it to orbit with no payload and a nose cone, and I believe that. I think Superheavy has a slightly lower staging velocity, but it's also bigger, which makes it inherently more mass-efficient and has lower drag, so I'm not sure. it definitely wouldn't manage it with much if any payload or reusability though. I was more talking math in the economics sense than the is it possible sense.

[@personpeoplepeoplepersons5722]

Axiom is working with Prada on the space suits😅😅😅

[@Mirimius]

I really hopes Starliner works, even if it's just for redundancy sake. It may seem unlikely now but if Crew Dragon fails for some reason, that's American out of the human spaceflight bussiness. Than it's only Russia and China with the capability to launch humas. Maybe India as well. That's fine and all, but imo America needs that capability for sure. Artemis might also fail and Dreamchaser and Starship are not ready yet for humans. Plus i don't want to see human spaceflight/spacecraft missions fail. Fingers crossed...

[@kevikiru]

Crew dragon is more reliable and has launched 12 times. 'If it fails then...' is far fetched!

[@HALLish-jl5mo]

​@@kevikiru The Space Shuttle flew 24 times before Challenger.

[@kevikiru]

@@HALLish-jl5mo All these are 'IFs'

[@HALLish-jl5mo]

@@kevikiru I made one statement, and it's a statement of historical fact. The Space Shuttle flew 24 missions before Challenger, no "if" about it.

[@CompanionCube]

if 1 crew dragon has an issue, the design is still fine and working. space shuttle was fundamentally flawed

[@marcusdirk]

The French are sending eclairs into space? Is that to give the astronauts "stuck" on the ISS a treat 😀

[@Umski]

As long as they’re not the Cadbury’s variety 😂

[@davesatxify]

awesome as always

[@jessiehill8392]

I'd like to see the catch arms lined with heavy duty airbags, deflated partially at the ends of the arms and fully inflated in the fork of the arms, super booster comes in, makes contact with the inner bags and they pass pressure to the end bags and they all settle around whatever the catch arms are catching

[@dragnflei]

Sad about the ISS 😢

[@ajaka002]

Starliner MAX when?

[@elmofeneken4364]

Scott, another jam-packed extravaganza into space the final frontier. So, you want to find out the latest in space, watch Scott Manley. Thanks for what you do.

[@CosmicVoyage5]

I love these videos

[@schawo2]

NASA needs SpaceX to destroy iss, NASA needs SpaceX to get a new suit, NASA needs SpaceX to get their astronauts home safe, NASA needs SpaceX to get to moon. NASA needs SpaceX.

[@biercenator]

Those are just budget allocation choices. The US has been steadily dismantling government capacity for a generation so, like, of course. The things to watch with contracting out are corruption in the bidding process and price gouging.

[@just_archan]

​@@biercenatorexactly. Too many gov contractors developed way to maximise profits out of inefficiency. Cost+ contracts. But this waste of money have to be well documented. One of reasons why Boeing can't get grip on starliner that is "fixed price". Simply they are now build to make delays and profit on them. Subcontractors, massive bureaucracy, separate team with managers etc for each system... SpaceX feels really good in fixed price niche. Probably sooner there will be other companies that knows how to deal in that marked. "Idiot Index", called that way by Musk is not so idiotic if it's allow to thrive and earn money in cost+ environment.

[@DB-zp9un]

But does spacex need NASA?

[@ralanham76]

​@@DB-zp9unyes they need some money for R&D and if they make a profit then they can reinvest it for new products.

[@just_archan]

@@DB-zp9un NASA is major customer for SpaceX. And NASA is responsible for lot of research. I am big fan of changes in NASA procedures that will leave behind NASA engineering as due to financial constraints (politicians decide about funding) they cannot make efficient procedures. They HAVE to nail things at first approach as "failures during development" are unacceptable politically, while delays or overgrown budgets are just minor problems.

[@Tilion462]

Yeah, I really kinda despise the ISS de-orbit option. Make the de-orbit vehicle just a booster and push the ISS out to a 'museum parking orbit' out of the way of current operational satellite orbits but somewhere humanity can return to in future and preserve as much of the ISS as possible for future generations.

[@7heHorror]

In case James Cameron wants to make a movie about it?

[@user-ro1ed8rt7s]

Yeah no thanks, we need to keep the orbit clean and the station is already falling apart.

[@beeble2003]

Did you watch the video? Pushing it higher means it becomes more likely to get hit by space junk and go all Kessler syndrome.

[@brandyballoon]

5:10 That never gets old!

[@EvelynNdenial]

id say raise the ISS up to like a 50 year lifetime, easier to reach with existing crewed rockets, lower delta-v required, still safe from debris so you can use the electric drives already on the thing and the time to boost it doesn't matter, and plenty of time for us to clean the higher orbits to put it up somewhere permanently.

[@For4Reel]

Add Ariane 6 you dont need reusability if the whole program is paied and booked. The whole ariane 6 lifecycle is paid for. Ariane Next will be reusable ;)

[@alquinn8576]

that doesn't make any sense -- sounds like something a europoor would write

[@For4Reel]

@@alquinn8576 yes i am from europe and yes it makes sence. ESA,EU and other European national Stakeholders have budgeted and funded the whole Ariane 6 program in advance. Each private lunch eg. from Amazon is a Bonus on top. Even without a single fligth the Ariane 6 is already profitable for Arianespace. Its not the goal to get a competetive launcher, the goal is to ensure europes indipendent access to space.The dont need to compete with privat companys because also Arianespace is owned by the ESA memberstates.

[@unclerojelio6320]

If it’s Boeing, we’re not going (home).