NASCAR Busts: Sam Hornish Jr (Cup Series)

[@BlackFlagsMatter]

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[@threepea1151]

Can you please retitle the video to a Cup bust only

[@jagmodyoutube4264]

NASCAR busts: Darian Gillam

[@areasevenpro]

Coming soon on NASCAR Busts: Hailie Deegan Natalie Decker Quin Houff Harrison Burton Anthony Alfredo Jennifer Jo Cobb Kevin Lepage

[@TrevorPhipps-vw6kr]

If he did that then there would be a KZbinr bust black flags matter his KZbinr career would be over I mean it pretty much is already with how fake his videos are

[@sjs3469]

Same with Bubba Wallace, Brandon Jones and Riley Herbst

[@benwalter4842]

@@sjs3469And Harrison Burton

[@RileyHerbst98]

@@sjs3469 How is having 2 Nascar Cup series win a bust?

[@robbyeckmann7169]

Forgot Thad Moffitt

[@ST0NE_206]

loved his #77 scheme in the COT era

[@toyotafan7881]

Not a "bust" in Xfinity tho

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

I wish Darian was specific about his NASCAR career and say his Cup was a bust, but Nationwide/Xfinity was not

[@noahcoleman5556]

If that last caution at Homestead doesn't get extended, Hornish beats Dillon for the 2013 title.

[@Han1523yt]

​@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YTHe did

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

@@Han1523yt well, title-wise

[@Han1523yt]

@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT That's fair, and it's weird because he has in the past

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

I did grow up watching Sam’s NASCAR Career. Though his Cup career was bad, but honestly more NASCAR fans should focus on his Nationwide/Xfinity Series career. I also think more fans should look at his IndyCar career as well! Other than that, Sam was one of those drivers that was amazing in IndyCar, but didn’t do well in Stock Cars (well, Cup).

[@danielhenderson8316]

Hornish's IRL career was a flash in the pan. He benefitted from a high downforce formula car that raced exclusively ovals. He started falling back when more road courses and in a side note also got his dad kicked out of the pit lane after a fight with Tony Kanaan at Mid Ohio. He got out at the right time.

[@davidpeters2625]

Fun Fact: Sam Hornish also had a niece, Hope that was a part of the NASCAR drive for Diversity program, briefly in the 2010s

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

Nascar was in that early on that cringe?

[@WC7525-films.]

We got a Sam Hornish Bust video before GTA 6

[@awesomeeli8251]

In nascar, he didn't do too bad in Xfinity but the cup series was a whole different story

[@jareddiamond5133]

I think Sam Hornish Jr was a somewhat decent Nationwide/Xfinity Series driver. Sam Hornish, Jr's Nationwide/Xfinity Series Stats (2006 - 2017): In 120 Starts, Sam Hornish Jr got 5 Wins, 38 Top 5s, 64 Top 10s, 9 Poles, Led 1376 of 20096 Laps Ran, 81 Lead Lap Finishes, 17 DNFs, 2 DNQs, An Average Start of 9.3, An Average Finish of 13.7, and A Best Points Finish of 2nd in 2013. Win Percentage: 24.00% Top 5 Percentage: 31.66% Top 10 Percentage: 53.33% Pole Position Percentage: 7.50% Laps Led Percentage: 6.84% Lead Lap Finish Percentage: 67.50% DNF Percentage: 14.16% DNQ Percentage: 1.66%

[@thefranchise4698]

To be fair, Hornish was rushed way too early into Cup. He should've ran a couple of full time Xfinity seasons before jumping into Cup

[@michaelsorber7859]

I think the same thing. Had he ran maybe a few truck races and part time xfinity the first year then maybe 2 full years in xfinity with a few truck starts the first year really get a better understanding of the balance of the stock cars over a indy car. Then a few cup starts the 2nd year then move to cup but still run a few xfinity races especially at tracks both series run at for the extra track time he might have done better. Not a super star of cup but a decent career

[@parker838]

Probably should clarify Cup series bust. Almost won an xfinity series championship and won races in the xfinity series.

[@mag1cman777]

6:50 “Speed is beautiful”

[@john48spark48]

Love the GT4 music in the background. Absolute nostalgia! 🥲💙

[@zaymclovin4178]

Cup series? Yes, Xfinity? No way

[@jaxonjaxoff3291]

Hornish was one of only two drivers who was competitive in IRL before and after the CART teams (Penske, Ganassi, Andretti-Green, Rahal, Fernandez, Mo Nunn) and their drivers started coming over in 2002, 2003 and 2004. (The other driver was Scott Sharp.)

[@Denverbroncos87]

Are you sure about that? Hornish- yes Scott sharp- yes You forgot 2 others. Do research…. There’s 4 that were good before and after

[@samfryman9635]

That Penske Mobil 1 livery was always one of my personal favorites He should've been Xfinity champ in 2013 and even got a couple wins when he returned for a few races at Iowa and Mid-Ohio. A motorsports legend for sure, but an unquestionable Cup Series bust

[@chrisuncleahmad666]

Future video idea suggestion: Drivers that come so close to a championship one season but struggle big time the next year and don't come close to capturing form from the prior year (1991 Mark Martin, 1992 Bill Elliott, 2011 Denny Hamlin, 2012 Carl Edwards, 2014 Matt Kenseth)

[@RealisticFisHed]

To this day, the most heartbroken I've been as a NASCAR fan was when he lost the Nationwide championship in 2013 to Austin Dillon by just three points. I've had favorites that have come one spot short of winning championships since (Brad Keselowski in 2020 & Ben Rhodes in 2022) but that one really hurt.

[@gnnascarfan2410]

If we are talking Cup series? Sure. Xfinity, zero chance.

[@MatthewLittle]

Agreed; his Xfinity career was pretty decent but like a lot drivers over the years, he got pushed to Cup too quickly and paid for it. Then again, in an ideal world he would've stayed in IndyCar a few more years as he was definitely one of the top drivers in his time in IndyCar.

[@nascarfanatic2425]

​@@MatthewLittle In terms of his Xfinity Series career, he was only 3 points away from doing the same thing Tony Stewart did: win both an IndyCar championship, and a NASCAR Championship.

[@nascarsteve]

Another example of being rushed to Cup too quickly. He was so good in the Busch/Nationwide car, had he of stayed there another season he would have probably been ok in Cup. I'm glad you showed that clip from the fall Texas race that year, I was at that race and I think he was about half of the cautions in that race.

[@Alan_M00ch]

So... being a championship contender in the 2nd tier NASCAR series is now considered a bust? Really? THIS is how deciding what a bust is?

[@jacobrodrigueztx]

I don’t think you watched the video. He says that he is a bust in CUP not Nationwide

[@DERACODA]

@@jacobrodrigueztxyou didnt see where the original video title just said bust not cup bust he only changed it becuase he got flamed

[@AgentFortySeven47]

6:07 "Franchitti in the wall, and there's Sam Hornish" yep that just about sums up IndyCar drivers attempting NASCAR in the late 2000s.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Yep an as a Franchitti fan he should've focused on winning a 5th IndyCar title and breaking the most IRL championships tie before Scott Dixon.

[@stephenholloway6893]

Cup Series yes but arguably not so in the Xfinity Series.

[@palacios185]

I've been watching Black Flags for a while. Keep up the great content brother

[@natelecarde962]

How this guy never got at least an f1 test after he won his second irl championship I have no idea…

[@BoxOfKrabs]

Probably because IRL was an oval racing league and he was unproven on road courses

[@user-ed1yx2fq7l]

Oval racing and road course racing are completely different. Look at SVG

[@TheSlothNerd64]

In the Cup Series, yeah he was a bust. But in Xfinity, he was actually respectable, especially since 2011.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

He drove like a bust in his final year of the Xfinity series though.

[@TheSlothNerd64]

​@runrafarunthebestintheworld Not really. Of the 6 races he ran in 2017, Sure half of them were 31st or worse. But the other half, he was 1st, 2nd and 2nd.

[@AstroAzzy]

For Indycar busts I think we need to do a video on Marty Roth, Tom Blomqvist or Zach Veach

[@MarkOliveras215]

I remember the whole Open-Wheel drivers to NASCAR mumbo jumbo during the late prime to early twilight of my years in the Lenore House in Michigan. What a helluva time to be alive + one of them was my favorite driver after Kyle Petty retired that being Montoya and that was NOT fun! At least Hornish was good in Busch Grand National/Nationwide/Xfinity and that’s what most people should be focusing on and even as an Austin Dillon fan, I’m not afraid to admit as a regular viewer with the fanboy cap off that he should’ve been the champion in 2013 if NASCAR didn’t waste laps under yellow and actually red flagged the damn race + I met him the week of the August MIS race in 2008 at Bruce Campbell Dodge by where I lived at the time and he was very cool! Good video Darian! EDIT: I FORGOT about that 2015 Cup stint with the Pettys the 1st year I moved to Ridgeville in the Sandy Ridge House! Thanks for reminding me and bringing back so many memories!

[@zh2motorsports867]

Okay to be fair unlike the JJ Yeley, Reed Sorenson and Andy Houston videos I do agree with you on Sam Horny Jr being a bust Granted looking back on it the 77 clearly wasn't penske's priority probably because the 77 was originally Jasper Motorsports

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Yep for sure.

[@isaiahmarker407]

He didn't do much better in the 22 car though when he took over for Allmendinger part way through 2012. That's when they were back to a two car even (2, 22)

[@lucasblanton5203]

Do a bust vid on Colin Braun. I'm pretty sure he's a bust

[@AEMoreira81]

He’s a great endurance car driver though, which seems crazy…as those are long races. He actually won a Truck race.

[@lucasblanton5203]

@AEMoreira81 yes but he was bad in Nationwide for Roush

[@spd7693]

Sam Hornish Jr. and Dan Wheldon! The IndyCar rivalry I got few glimpses on when the IRL was broadcasted in my country. RIP Dan! People like these two got me into oval racing.

[@RazerHolic]

NASCAR Busts: Michael Mrucz

[@clipobserver]

Is Hailie Deegan next?

[@craiglindecamp9589]

I was really hoping that at least one of the Indy car guys from that 08-13 period would be a legit contender

[@e93sports80]

Championship Seasons: Jimmie Johnson 2007 Bad Seasons: Dale Jarrett 2003 Random Drivers: Lyndon Amick Gone Too Soon: John Nemechek ( Not JHN)

[@notiresjustgas9377]

Zane Smith- The rookie season from hell- coming soon to BFM

[@Denverbroncos87]

Austin Dillon and Harrison Burton are right there too

[@housesports000]

I still find it hilarious that despite his 2010 season being worse than 2009 he still scored more points in 2010 than he did in 2009

[@RazorSharp75426]

One of the best drivers racing a Pennzoil-sponsored cars

[@TimberWolfer63]

Hornish's birthplace of Archbold, Ohio is half an hour from where I live, and his current residence of Napoleon, Ohio is also half an hour away. His Mobil 1 paint schemes were great though. And im honestly amazed we got a Sam Hornish Jr bust video before Dario Franchitti

[@joegibbsfan6082]

NASCAR busts Patrick carpentier

[@Denverbroncos87]

Who? There’s a Patrick carpentier But no Patrick carpenter…. People who are known elsewhere who never raced clearly aren’t a Nascar bust 🤨

[@joegibbsfan6082]

I Spelled it wrong

[@danielhenderson8316]

​@@Denverbroncos87Everyone is a victim of autocorrect at some time.

[@connorbrown4011]

I don’t think he counts as a “bust”. Maybe as a Cup driver but he has 5 Xfinity Series wins and almost won a championship too. Think he barely beats the label.

[@jacobrodrigueztx]

He said it in the video that he is a bust in Cup not nationwide. He was pretty decent in Nationwide.

[@SonyArchivos_2011]

Hello Black Flags Matter, Maybe If You Remember Me, Because I Mentioned You In My Community, Thank You For The Greeting, I Also Greeting You From The Province Of Corrientes In Argentina,🇦🇷 Also good video, I loved it❤

[@marknicholasdavis]

I always wondered where the disconnect is with these IndyCar drivers struggling when they make the jump over. If I remember correctly, wasn't the last really successful one Tony Stewart?

[@V10ViperSRT]

Can we talk about how Nascar screwed him out of an Xfinity title and gave it to Dillon?

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

Cool series. I remember those days. I just assumed he would be solid in Nascar

[@speedtracker9556]

What is a NASCAR Bust? I don't know anything about this, but I wanna know why KZbin is recommending me this. Can someone explain to me what a NASCAR bust is?!

[@baxatakbaxatak2014]

Sam’s move to NASCAR made sense at the time. That man accomplished everything in IndyCar one possibly could. Had he started in Busch full time, he would have stood a chance in Cup.

[@danielhenderson8316]

And he wasn't going to accomplish any more because the Champ Car drivers like Will Power would drive out the IRL only drivers as the years went by.

[@SebastianWoodard]

Honestly, when I was a kid, he was my favorite nascar driver cuz NASCAR Inside Line, I thought there was a difference in how fast each o e would be. Then he had the most eye-catching paint out of the dodge cars. But I’d run Tony Stewart and Jamie McMurray, and Jimmie and Jeff. Cuz they all had my favorite looking cars.

[@handsomedevil4928]

Marty Robbins

[@BardelystheMagnificent]

Marty Robbins

[@evanwilliams6406]

@@handsomedevil4928 He drove for fun only. Marty never ran a full schedule.

[@handsomedevil4928]

@@evanwilliams6406 I know. I just comment his name on posts.

[@nolandavis9040]

I just bought his rookie diecast. 236/300 funny how this is the first video that comes out

[@beansballcardblog]

I love the "another open wheel driver that couldn't make it in NASCAR." You know, because all NASCAR drivers that go to open wheel are successful. Jimmie Johnson was a beast in Indycar!!!

[@RBMapleLeaf]

If there is one driver that i would recommend you cover in Gone Too Soon. Why not the 1963 Daytona 500 winner Tiny Lund? I felt like he couldve achieved more than what he got before his untimely death at Talladega in 1975. But if you don't see Tiny Lund as a driver that was gone too soon I feel like you should still cover him anyway because his story is rather interesting and one for the ages

[@chrisguardiano6143]

Sam Hornish's career could have gone on a different trajectory if he had the opportunity to enter F1 instead of remaining in the IRL in the early to mid 2000's as both BAR Honda & Jordan were interested in signing him but Panther Racing & then Penske refused to release him from his contract. Heck for their first F1 season in 2005, Red Bull (who had been the Jaguar team since 2000) wanted to sign him as a way of really promoting their team in the US. However the deal was nixed once team principal Christian Horner found out that the IRL only raced on ovals & that Hornish had little experience on road courses & decided to sign David Coulthard instead.

[@danielhenderson8316]

Hornish would never go anywhere in F1. He had difficulty adapting to the IRL when they brought road course back onto the schedule, much less competing against 20+ road racing experts in F1.

[@NTGSportsChannel2063]

11:29 i never knew my workplace sponsored the 9 car in 2015 for Sam Hornish Jr

[@joshleyva2249]

He probably needed to be brought along more slowly. His Nationwide/Xfinity success kind of proves it.

[@e93sports80]

I'd like to see you do à video about Dario Franchiti's brief run in NASCAR.

[@Denverbroncos87]

He already did….

[@e93sports80]

​@@Denverbroncos87 when?

[@Dat-Mudkip]

Part of the problem is that, like David Stremme, he ran for Penske when they were at the low point of the team's slump. (Luck didn't seem to be on his side either.) I think in almost any other full-time team he would have ran better, and his later career in Xfinity seems to back that theory.

[@AEMoreira81]

Some drivers are great in one series and not another. Colin Braun is another.

[@BSNFabricating]

At Fontana, Sam Hornish won the fastest race of any kind ever run on a closed course. The average speed was over 207 mph...for 400 miles. If I remember right, that was in 2003.

[@jonahperegoy4672]

Holy shit the bots are out in force.

[@ViperLemondemon]

Funny he was born in my hometown and raised in the town south of me, his father owns a massive trucking business and his wife is the heiress to archbold waste (waste management company). The least I heard he was a substitute teacher in Northwest Ohio for funsies and learning the hornish brothers trucking business

[@MatthewLeuck-Myers]

I seen him race in a xfinity car back in 2012 at Chicagoland

[@ruddgrandprix-speedrunraci8515]

It's it's one of those surf shark sponsorships this video is. He is one of those guys. Sure Sam Hornish Jr in IndyCar is one of the greats like Franchitti, Patrick, and the like. But when it comes to touching on NASCAR, it's supposed opposite. But SHJR stands above the rest in NASCAR Xfinity. But when touching on the world of the NASCAR Cup series, it's one of those Cup Series busts just like Danica Patrick.

[@kylitothemidcreator]

6:53 “speed is beautiful” How ironic

[@NASCARFAN93100]

At least Sam Hornish Jr has something Danica Patrick doesn't have and That's a Top 5 Finish (3 of Which) in the Cup Series

[@Wisconsin222]

It’s like when he called Steve Kinser a bust, yeah his NASCAR career wasn’t that great but I doubt anyone was challenging him 1v1 in a dirt sprint car race in his prime lol

[@evanwilliams6406]

@@Wisconsin222 some people are just better at one discipline and Kinser's one true place was Sprint cars. He returned there and never looked back!

[@evanwilliams6406]

In the Cup Series driving Jeremy Mayfield's old Mobil 1 scheme on the #77 no less!

[@leethecomedian]

Is gran turismo 5 menu music what im hearing?

[@HbombandFriends]

Ok. Here’s a racing “What If”. What if Hornish stayed in IndyCar? Does he challenge Scott Dixon’s dominance? How many more titles does he win? I would’ve loved to see an IndyCar era featuring Hornish, Dixon, & Montoya. That would’ve been some fun racing.

[@danielhenderson8316]

No. Like every other driver that started in the IRL, he started going backwards when more road and street courses were added. 2008 would likely be his last good year while the Champ Car drivers adapted to the IR08. His career would also likely get worse when ISC dropped IRL/IndyCar from the majority of their oval tracks when their 10 year deal expired.

[@pedroa.baptista4906]

Waiting for Hailie Deegan's one

[@ChrisSterner]

I met him he was a very nice guy At that time i was wearing an Philadelphia Eagles jacket he actually and chip Kelly (speaking about busts )just got hired He asked me how I felt about that and I told him I didn’t like it

[@BraunFarms-nm1mm]

Sam hornish Is a great guy just saying he's done a lot for his hometown

[@Austin_Windric]

Was insane in open wheel, goes straight to Cup in the worst Penske car during their worst time, then kills it in XFINITY, and never gets a fair chance in Cup again Ppl really don't know what a bust is and just throw that term around like candy

[@danielhenderson8316]

He was only "insane" in open wheel because each series had half the talent during the split.

[@SonyArchivos_2011]

6:50 Jajajaja, "La Velocidad Es Hermosa"

[@joaobaptista8377]

he could be considered as a What If in Nascar overall cuz he had good races and bad races

[@jkkellerj5]

Sam’s not as much of a bust as he was a late bloomer

[@RRaquello]

Always wondered why he never went back to Indy Cars after his lack of success right from the start in NASCAR. Franchitti did and had great success. Hornish threw away what could have been a great career. My guess was that he didn't want to go back to open wheel/open cockpit cars because they were too risky and NASCAR was safer. But that's just a guess.

[@danielhenderson8316]

1) Pay. I'm pretty sure he'd still get paid better in Xfinity just from 2x the number of races a season compared to IndyCar. 2) Hornish's strength was running high downforce cars on ovals. When the 10 deal with ISC ended, nearly every ISC oval dropped IndyCar from the schedule, and with the addition of more road and street courses, the older CART drivers and top Champ Car drivers became the top drivers in the sport with the IRL "homegrown" talent dropping out of the sport or just running the Indy 500.

[@CA_Don1181]

Waiting for the Hailie Deegan vid to drop. 🍿

[@stormkelleh]

I still liked him tbh despite the results

[@guyfaux3978]

SH jr generally finished lower than he qualified while in the Cup series. That ain't good.

[@RAID3R63]

He won some races in the Busch series so I can't really label him a bust in NASCAR in the cup series yes but not as a whole

[@Fabiamxx1998]

Next Hailie Deegan please, I need that video before I die

[@stephenrobert7987]

No mention of 06 team in 2007, making homestead and Phoenix?: bringing out caution at homestead too

[@drpildora8018]

Aj allmendinger 2012 vídeo!! like to see it

[@Dan24943]

You didn't mention the multiple wins at Iowa!

[@JGR4LIFE20]

To be fair that 77 was never a good Penske car so he isn’t a bust for me. Roger Penske put all of his eggs in Kurt Busch’s basket.

[@zh2motorsports867]

How to be fair the 77 wasn't originally Penske It was originally Jasper Motorsports but over time it became Penske

[@danielhenderson8316]

Didn't Penske kick Kurt Busch into a different team number and make him use his Champion's Provisional so Hornish could qualify for races?

[@stevejensen8874]

Yea he didn't do so hot In the cup series but I always thought there was something fishy going on behind the scenes because he would show speed but not results

[@jinglebell61]

Not A Bust: Sam Hornish Jr. Xfinity Series.

[@Lesposito25]

I’ve always thought he had the best COT paint scheme

[@TomLehockySVK]

Waiting for the "Nascar Busts: Hailie Deegan" since she lost the Xfinity ride.

[@TPM75108]

We need one for Kevin LePagr

[@chrisedgemon4943]

Only guys in modern era that came from open wheel to stock cars an had success off the the top of my head would be Tony Stewart, aj allmendinger, an robby Gordon say what you want about robby but he won 3 races in a couple years that's better then michael waltrip did in 20yrs

[@Jrh-rp7np]

Ahh yes the 2000s open wheel driver wanting to be a stock car driver era …

[@DC322]

Cup series can make you a star or get chew and spit out in an instant.

[@yoboihuffy3424]

Sam lives about 35 minutes from me now but does no racing that I know of. He has a whole wall of fame at the local BDubs.

[@RazorSharp75426]

Danica should've seen how Sam Hornish fumbled in NASCAR as a precaution so she didn't go to NASCAR. The premise of an Indy/CART pilot going stock car racing (post-Stewart) was all too familiar as they went to go bust. But she went there anyway and....... (At least Uncle Sam fared a bit better than Lady Danica)

[@danielhenderson8316]

The top IndyCar teams were tired of Danica playing diva and Andretti was not going to resign her. If she didn't go to NASCAR, she was going to a bottom half team. She also should have stayed in Nationwide/Xfinity for longer than she did and run a limited cup schedule to get more experience, but money talks until it runs out.

[@wevertonjarrel3978]

Indycar bust: Milka Duno

[@danielhenderson8316]

Someone did this a could months ago.

[@redneckgamers897]

Sam coulda been a xfinity champion fs

[@RebeckaBeatrice]

Completely unrelated to this video which was great, but why r u not on NWP? It’s been a few weeks without u and I was just curious

[@eduardclark]

Wasn’t a bust even in the cup series just because you don’t win doesn’t mean you’re a bust

[@jaxonjaxoff3291]

Oooh… yeah…