NASCAR Making Major Change to Race Coverage in 2025, and It's Bad News for Some of Its Core Fans

[@nunyabidnes7330]

In an economy where people are having to choose between food on the table or gas in their vehicle, a special subscription to enable them to watch a race is not a luxury everyone can choose. NASCAR is losing viewership because gimmicks & cookie cutter tracks don’t help an organization that values profit over its fan base

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

Fair.

[@rebelsoul5980]

Exactly!!

[@davidnovicki2416]

I here the crybaby teams talking about not making any money. That's BS as even a driver that can barely make a race like JJ Yaley has a net worth of a million and a half. And you can bet his owners are doing better than that.

[@angelwings3093]

@@davidnovicki2416 yeah I googled some of these drivers like JJ yeley who couldn't win a race if they were the last ones on the track and they do make millions I had no idea they made that much no wonder they stay racing 🙄🙈

[@toniavasseur9574]

Not really

[@jonah8990]

Whatever, I’ll just keep watching my 90s and early 2000s nascar race replays

[@Tcoker-9]

Real racing 🏁 💯👊

[@austinking9912]

At 3 am 😂😂😂 somehow they still have intensity even when you know the outcome.

[@paulhunter1735]

The day that Nascar goes to even one event that can only be viewed on a streaming app i'm done with it. I already pay for cable and internet with more channels than i need already. I'll be damned if i'll spend even more money to watch Nascar.

[@Tcottong]

Nascar appeasing this sort of old timer view on its media is why continuing its slow death WAS inevitable. Nobody uses cable anymore. In 15 years those that do will be dead or close enough to it they aren't helping nascar on fs1. Do we want nascar to have zero fans because they all died off due to failure at keeping up with how the world works? Short term ratings hurt, long term better.

[@cosmicdisaster02]

the time of cable television has come and gone. Nascar is making the smart play here

[@angelwings3093]

@@Tcottong gee thanks I'll send you an invitation to my funeral 😇

[@Tcottong]

@@angelwings3093 lmao apologies.

[@eddean6663]

I cut cable a year and half ago. Because it got too expensive. Watch KZbin and really don't follow Nascar that much since they closed Kentucky Speedway.

[@rickbarnett2088]

Bring NASCAR to regular TV like all the other flipping sports to where you don’t have to pay for it. It’s ridiculous what NASCAR’s doing

[@robertlloyd135]

Totally agree nascar goes streaming the will lose out big time they are too dumb to notice when they took it off regular tv they lost how many people they can kiss my ass I've been a fan for forty five years but I see it coming to a quick end !

[@dibroc8348]

You mean like the NBA Playoff on TNT and ESPN or Stanley Cup Play offs on TNT ?

[@jonah8990]

I mean we are all used to NASCAR making ridiculous decisions at this point…sucks, but that’s just how it is nowadays with this rollercoaster of a sport.

[@mattj6676]

@@dibroc8348 I agree to a point, but that's still basic cable for most folks. Most people do have that, but only about half the country has Amazon Prime, and I'm not sure what percentage of NASCAR fans are included in that.

[@frankm9721]

Oh you pay for it. Cable is expensive.

[@zt5547]

Either have everything on cable or everything on streaming. I'm not paying for both.

[@easyenetwork2023]

Peacock is free if you have any tv service and think it is cheap if you don’t, at like $49.99 a year.

[@tomchrisfield7348]

I agree. I pay my cable bill to watch the races I really want to see.when the race is over, they want me to buy live streaming to see the post race interviews, I don't and won't, when racing is no longer on the channels I get, I won't be watching any longer.

[@TheTN24]

As stated at the end - "fans can either accept it and go along for the ride or be left behind". Problem is it's not the fans being left behind but NASCAR being left behind by the fans. Regardless of streaming, mainstream, cable or a combo of all three, when your sport is getting smaller NASCAR needs to be as accessible as possible.

[@rebelsoul5980]

Common sense!! Nascar is destroying their product on purpose!

[@johnhaas2523]

False As a lot of fans would still watch and there might even be more new fans but all of you f****** old timers would be left behind Like you belong and you should have been left behind 10 years ago

[@populisttrope9385]

They want younger fans and young fans don't have cable tv.

[@IndependenceIron]

@@populisttrope9385 Hard to get younger fans when there is no excitement. Boring races with cars that struggle to pass the leader so races become a game of "Pit Strategy". Boring!! Might as well try signing young fans up to a Chess league.

[@the_keen_edge]

I guess it's time to let go. Goodbye NASCAR!

[@elaineluikart5459]

So what else is new. Nascar hasn't cared about nobody but the most vocal loud disgusting raucas fans for a long time. They don't care about advertisers, only where their direct $$$ comes from the TV broadcasters. The team owners get their $$$ from fans and advertisers so they couldn't give a crap

[@kevinkelley3906]

Harvick will be gone so I won't really have a reason to watch it.

[@CapstoneTider]

@Kevin Kelley At least he'll be in the booth. That's much better than just vanishing like the other 99%

[@raypencosky8296]

Watched Nascar all my life. I will not pay and additional money to a streaming service.

[@populisttrope9385]

Why not? NASCAR is awesome!

[@mikek749]

Was a huge sports fan growing up. Over the last couple years I have not watched a local hockey, basketball or baseball game because they want more money for exclusive viewing.

[@GeraldMorris-md8nq]

Just a few years ago NASCAR took down 1/3 of their seating at most of their tracks except Bristol. Sponsors did not want to look at empty seats. The only number that I remember now was Daytona took down 89,000 seats. Charlotte took down all of the new seating that had just been installed on turns 3 and 4 and also took down all seats on the back straight. Attendance is still falling off and then came BUBBA and the straw that broke the camel's back. The last issue with the Rebel Flag and OH BOY that went over like a lead balloon.

[@arthurtomczak8474]

Hope they can squeeze more commercials in and make the side by side even smaller.

[@garymckee8857]

👍😕☺️☺️☺️

[@populisttrope9385]

They won't need commercials if it's on streaming.

[@dannysrigid]

@@populisttrope9385 I remember when that was the case for cable TV. That didn't age well ;)

[@donjuan7428]

I agree something will be left behind. There’s a lot of folks just like us who don’t have the electronics needed to stream. We will be leaving nascar behind. R.I.P. nascar.

[@scottschmidt4460]

Can we just get them to show the finish of the race as the entire field crosses the finish line. The entire field was wrecking on the front straightaway at the end of the race yesterday and all they showed on TV was the pit crew high fiving and a closeup of the winning driver for about 20 seconds after he crossed the finish line.

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

Agreed.

[@bwproctor]

They WILL lose more viewership than they have now if Cup goes streaming.

[@johnhaas2523]

It's only six races they're talking about as far as the Cup series

[@stephenholloway6893]

10 counting the races that Max will simulcast with TNT.

[@mutantryeff]

I already have stopped watching the races, as I can get the highlights later. Saves me lots of time and doesn't require a subscription service.

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

Effectively the sports highlights we got on the television news for years. But actually a lot more choices to get info now.

[@toniavasseur9574]

That sucks

[@JDashRider]

Stopped watching as well. I don’t miss Nascar.

[@micahwilliams3795]

It’s not NASCAR that’s going way. It’s cable. Streaming is the future.

[@dconkey1]

Until streaming services make it easier to go from one platform to another, I won't buy in.

[@donstevenson2660]

Streaming, more like extortion. Squeeze more money out of a sport already on it's way out

[@jackfrost3254]

Until streaming (and cable/satellite) come down in prices NASCAR viewership is going to plummet when further

[@johnhaas2523]

​@@jackfrost3254 come down in price that's never happening

[@Bill757]

As with big business they know better and their loyalty is investors and their pockets. Risk/reward, numbers determine the direction they go. It's not surprising if this comes to fruition. Maybe the local small tracks can make a comeback? I'll be waiting at the gate.

[@NeedsLessWedge]

I haven't watched most races due to not having cable and not wanting to fool with an antenna. Also there are a lot of gear heads with prime, just for the sake of waiting 12+ months for some old fellas to come out with their Grand Tours. I am one of those guys who have prime just for this reason. Therefore having NASCAR races in prime would actually intrigue me to tune in on a platform that I already pay for and can watch from anywhere. I think it's a smart move for both sides. Piss in cable and cable packages, or overpriced NASCAR only streaming subscriptions. Sooner the better

[@richardhemenway7528]

Well Nascar just shot themselves in the ass.

[@johnhaas2523]

Act like NASCAR is getting away from TV completely when that is not even the truth. The Xfinity series yes but only six races for cup series

[@justinbray2773]

Where I use to live the internet was/is waaaaay to slow to watch anything live

[@LJRacing91]

It’s an interesting move, partially because NASCAR is saying things like they “haven’t forgotten their roots,” with things like the North Wilkesboro race (which generally consisted of rural areas with race tracks and fans from those rural areas), while now considering dumping a traditional way of broadcasting the sport for one that many of those rural fans won’t have access to due to a lack of high speed internet in many rural communities. I still think it’s the correct move all things considered, but they seem to be trying to talk out of both sides of their mouth. Best part of the idea is that it would help fund teams, since NASCAR has done their best to poach so many sponsors from teams for their own “the official toilet paper of NASCAR” kind of stuff.

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

Great comment!

[@angelwings3093]

@LJRacing91 Wow well said 👍👍👍🤗🤗😘😘

[@easyenetwork2023]

Ironically, the BBB plan would be better for NASCAR fans to watch streaming services and races on streaming services.

[@bradgriffith4231]

NASCAR couldn't care less about it's roots. Look at the way it has treated it's core audience, who've been fans for several generations, all in the name of diversity. In the way they treated Kyle Larson, who's half Japanese, over using a word that half the blacks in the country use in almost every sentence in what he thought was private. Compare this to the way they treat the halfrican bigot that 2 years later, still insists that a loop tied in a garage door pull was a noose, even after a dozen FBI agents investigated & refuted his claim!

[@angelwings3093]

I'm a senior and I don't mean high School I already pay extra for FS1 only for the races and no other sport and then they sometimes put the race on FS2 which my cable company doesn't have even if I wanted to pay even more!!! They don't care about the older viewers it's all about the new younger viewers and I can afford all that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@cosmicdisaster02]

Can you blame them? It's a business decision. They have to go way out of their way to cater to old fans because the business model required isn't profitable anymore. All the while catering to old fans doesn't grow the sport and in fact would kill it as the old fans die off. As a younger fan, I want the sport to be around long enough for me to gripe about its move to whatever new fangled medium they have in the future. That means they have to adapt to a sustainable business model now. Nascar isn't changing, the way humans consume media is. Nascar is just following suit

[@angelwings3093]

@@cosmicdisaster02 everything that you said I absolutely agree with you one hundred percent 👍

[@angelwings3093]

@@cosmicdisaster02 sorry I hit the wrong button I meant to say more 🙄 even though everything that you have said is true and I agree with you I truly do but I didn't get interested in racing until I lived in Florida and Dale senior died and I only watched it because I knew everybody was going to talk about but then I got hooked on it and it hurts that now I might not be able to afford to see the races ever again 😟

[@johnhaas2523]

If you've got internet you can always watch FS2 all you need is your cable account login

[@angelwings3093]

@@johnhaas2523 I don't have internet and even if I did my cable company does not offer it🙈🙄

[@subohioguy]

NO WAY am I PAYING to watch NASCAR ENYWHERE!!!!

[@handled99]

Big deal, everything is going to streaming. NASCAR is what its always been. I've been watching NASCAR on and off since 2002. Long time. And even back then people were complaining about all kinds of stuff about the car, the tracks. People were complaining when ESPN and CBS lost the broadcast rights to Fox in 2000. Saying, "this sucks" and NASCAR is abandoning its grass root fans. No more races on TNN Network etc. This type of stuff is nothing new. Same exact thing. Just different actors. Same plot.

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

Great points!

[@outlander330cc]

I'm all for streaming, just let me choose the deal I want. Let me watch races free with a ton of commercials, or let me pay extra for no commercials.

[@DRowdy865]

Nascar is like our Government,doing everything they can to destroy it own...

[@johnhaas2523]

Hahaha

[@richardabertzyk-bw4wc]

Nope, been watching sence 7 am 68 now I guess my ride is about to end. Sucks

[@davidnovicki2416]

Nascar is so interested in making money they are leaving out the poor who can't afford to obtain races on venues that don't cost money.

[@johnhaas2523]

NASCAR has to make money to survive and teams want more tv money from tv deal.

[@jackfrost3254]

Until streaming (and cable/satellite) come down in prices NASCAR viewership is going to plummet when further

[@johnhaas2523]

Streaming is never going to come down and cost It's only increased just like cable has

[@ClaremontClassicGarage]

I'll pick "left behind". NASCAR can pound sand.

[@GeraldMorris-md8nq]

How about the fans in the stands today at Richmond? No, I did not watch the race but did flip to the race to see how empty the stands were. Looked to be about 1/2 empty to me.

[@shanebrooks2013]

This is the world’s longest video to ever exist to simply say “NASCAR is going to its own streaming service. The end”

[@J27-usa]

I don’t buy from Amazon or Jeff bezos so I will not be buying anything nascar from them either even if it means I miss races I enjoy.

[@danlearned6199]

If I have to start paying to watch NASCAR races, I'll stop watching NASCAR races.

[@LonnyPayne]

I left when they started stage racing. Ruined it for me.

[@rodjackson6390]

If ya can't run with the big dogs....stay on the porch

[@daviddunn773]

Oh and watch A.J Allmendinger Kick Bubba's A$$

[@johncarrano9430]

I've been watching nascar every week for 41yrs ill never pay Amazon to watch races this will be the downfall of nascar if this happens RIP nascar

[@WarpandXeno88]

If my KZbin tv bill goes up one more time I'm cancelling anyway. Already getting up to where cable was.

[@sonliving]

It looks like NASCAR is going the cheapest viewing route. They were loosing they're shorts for a minute..seems to be rebounding with somewhat better racing less police action. Many fans were not having it and NASCAR felt it in the old pocket book. Adding all the new tracks and road coarses seemed to help bring back the old faithfuls. After all the criticism they received you have to tip the hat for at least trying to do something. It would have been nice if they had got on NBC (one of they're favorites) and said the simple words 'we hear ya we apologize' but to admit your wrong in any way is not the way we handle things. Yw 😁

[@oldhick9047]

Nearly everything NASCAR has done in the past few years has been bad news for it's core fans, they simply don't care.

[@1Curtis83]

Well, some of us will just have to deal with highlights. Like myself 🤷

[@mattj6676]

Except you won't. Once you can't see the races, you'll start to care less and less until you don't care at all. This is an incredibly bad idea if they go through with it.

[@pangaea6united]

They still gonna be free on PRN and MRN

[@DriftlessWarrior]

And PRN and MRN have much better camera work than Fox. ;D ;D ;D

[@dindog22]

the NASCAR app carries the radio broadcast as well. I don't understand why everyone turns their noses up at the radio broadcast. with the radio, you can be doing other things while listening. with tv, you have to sit there like a lump the entire time

[@DriftlessWarrior]

@@dindog22 I really enjoy doing my yard work and tending my plants while listening. A friend of mine started calling what I do "NASGARdening." :D

[@daviddunn773]

Everyone just tunes in to see Bubba cry or make an a$$ of his self And MJ too

[@mattj6676]

One thing that has been certain in the last two TV deals is that the leadership of NASCAR is very short sighted when it comes to contracts. Since it's all privately owned, the owners line their pockets with hundreds of millions of dollars, without worrying about what it will mean in 15 years. If this was such a great idea, how come the NFL doesn't do it? You can buy the Sunday Ticket, but that's to watch out of market games, something you can't get on TV. I'd agree with a pay service where you could stream in-car cameras and audio, stuff like that, but removing the viewing opportunity from hundreds of millions of Americans is simply stupid.

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

Hard to argue with this.

[@johnhaas2523]

This TV deal that we've got now was signed 10 years ago

[@mattj6676]

@@johnhaas2523 I didn't mean they were short contracts, they were short sighted. To maximize their profits, NASCAR ownership split the contract between NBC and FOX who at the time were both launching their own sports networks, NBCSN and FS1. They bought the NASCAR property as the main showcase of those channels. NASCAR never insisted their product be on TV where people actually had the channel. Ratings have been going down and down as more and more people don't want to pay for the "sports package" for 19 channels of table tennis and billiards and others are cutting the cable cord completely. But the owners put hundreds of millions into their own pockets, the short sighted part. Jeff Bezos will dangle billions in front of them again, and they'll take it without caring about what it looks like in 5 or 10 years, they'll have their cash so who cares?

[@johnseavey6622]

Nascar is doing everything it can to destroy itself.

[@cosmicdisaster02]

Remaining in their current unsustainable business model would be destroying themselves. this is the first smart thing they've done in a while. I empathize with the older fans who feel they can't keep up, but Nascar cant forego their future trying to hang on to the older demographic.

[@gregburkowski5019]

As more ans more sports (NASCAR included) the fewer events i watch.When rural areas have high speed internet available to them like urban areas i might be interested in streaming.

[@roymcdre9180]

Would suckkk if they stop putting it on youtube a few days after the race!

[@curtbauer9790]

They had better think this out as everyone can not afford to spend the money for a subscription! In others words, if You don't have the money, You can't watch!!!😢

[@johnhaas2523]

The Cup series is still going to be on TV other than maybe six races and I assume the truck series is going to stay on TV as well

[@johnnyecrr]

the CW already sign up check the Nascar offical app done deal

[@covetprice]

Amazon's version of Nascar. I can't wait. This video was exciting and scary the same time. 😮

[@mattj6676]

Now that I'm done with being "in my feelings" about this, I think the bigger picture problem with this is NASCAR's current problem is shrinking viewership and fan base. The instinct of the leadership should be to put it out in the most accessible format possible, not a limited one. They need to GROW their viewership, I don't see how Amazon Prime is going to be that vehicle. In contrast, if the NFL wanted to go full subscription, they could probably get away with it to a point, though even for that ratings would decline some. The NFL is probably the most valuable broadcast entity on the planet and has hundreds of millions of avid fans, and some of the highest rated sports broadcasts around. Yet they don't do this.

[@MrRoute661]

You are way to logical and practical for the thinking of current 3 stooges NASCAR leadership.

[@markrose1196]

Not a fan of Amazon… tooooo big and stifling competition!

[@Z64sports]

Streaming should just be an option. Everything that can be on TV should be on TV

[@charliekrause6787]

I wonder in 10 years how many streaming services people are going to have to pay for to watch all their sports/shows?

[@johnhaas2523]

It's really hard to say what streaming is going to look like in 2033 and cable might be dead by 2033

[@GT-43]

I remember when my direct TV got up to over hundred bucks a month. I canceled it because I'm not paying that much to watch TV. So I just subscribed to the streaming services I wanted and now I pay 300 bucks a month.

[@johnhaas2523]

You must have quite a few streaming services than

[@realrasher]

The only reason I have cableTV service is because of NASCAR. I pay almost $100 bucks a month just watch in 4k. I’d much rather pay for NASCAR streaming… especially if it could help subsidize sponsorships.

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

Wish more people thought like you. Thanks!

[@DavidLovesJesus]

Thanks!

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

Thanks man! Truly appreciate it!

[@irepairofpc31familykartrac51]

I’m out! Not paying to watch less of a product.

[@delanostrickland1761]

I will not be watching And I sure not going to pay for it. Been watching nascar since 1998 So count me up

[@joeyager8479]

By viewing some of the comments; the new broadcasting deal will not satisfy everyone. Some want it all over the air TV, some only cable and some only streaming. Some will be okay with a split. Fox switches to FS1 after the baseball season starts. NBC switches to USA after the football season starts. Bottom line is that baseball and football are better for their bottom lines or they'd stay on the major networks.

[@johnhaas2523]

NBC has races on USA long before football starts

[@jackfrost3254]

The day NASCAR goes streaming is the day i stop watching... GOODBYE

[@rebelsoul5980]

If Nascar moves away from cable, directv and dish network it will be the end of the sport!

[@johnhaas2523]

NASCAR is not completely moving away from cable but cable is dying. There's only the talk of six cup series races on like Amazon and all of the Xfinity series races. If Amazon is willing to pay More money for the Xfinity series then what NASCAR gets from Fox and NBC currently or what NBC or even willing to give As part of the next TV deal it's a good thing for the series

[@garlandalmarode6396]

Right if Amazon is willing to pay more they should take it. This is the xfinity and not the cup or the trucks. Amazon paying more shows that Nascar is not on the way out like people keep saying year after year. Nascar isn't dying, it's doing pretty well.

[@careygrant152]

Get Goodyear to make tires that don't fall off after 15 laps, get rid of all stage racing, and stop having so many green white checker finishes every week and we might start to see real racing again. So sick of all the yellows, seeing someone leading all day and then makes one mistake on the last lap and finishes 12th. And if NASCAR thinks everyones likes 15 lap stops per race they are wrong. Let the races play out with real strategy and green flag pit stops like the good old days. More short tracks and less Ross Chastain!

[@Myamericanlife61]

And get rid of all the talking heads do we really need all these pit and tv reporters talking about the same things over and over

[@michaelsheets6851]

The reason we have the GWC is people got tired of paying a lot of money to see them run 8 laps under caution and finish the race. You are in the minority.

[@richcox75]

If it wasn't for Ross the races would be SUPER boring ! How come nobody bitched about Earnhardt when he did the same kind of crap. Do you just want drivers to drive around in a circle and just play follow the leader. I want to watch someone who has the will and balls to try and win. Oh yeah , Hamlin took out Larson in the last race . did Kyle say any nasty stuff about him NOT A WORD !! It was OK when Denny ( Mr we need more Respect on the track) took him out !!! Ross is everyone's Scape goat now whether he does something wrong or not !

[@MrFallon321]

Free TV. You (NASCAR) priced yourselves out of the market. America used to be free, the same with TV.

[@johnhaas2523]

NASCAR is a business The teams want more money even form TV deal. NASCAR has been on cable since the 1980s and cable is slowly dying

[@dough1968GMC]

I don't stream so if they elect to do that... all good carry on, NASCAR is not the air that I breathe!

[@johnhaas2523]

I guess you must be too f****** old to not be able to handle the stream

[@lorieandjasonflores1543]

Barley watch them on regular TV having to search around for them isn't going to happen even though I have prime. This sport??? Is getting too gimmicky. Just race your s^#ty car that doesn't race very well

[@alexcika9906]

Actually all sports is doing it , it sucks but what can ya do

[@markchevrier8545]

If NASCAR goes to a streaming service then they will lose a whole sector of long time fans. I will be one of them. This is an economy where i cannot afford to hardly pay for the basic TV I do have. I am not going to pay for more crap where the only thing i am intetested in there is NASCAR. It is cheaper and easier for me to just say good bye. I did the same thing to the NFL games that were on Amazon. Bye, bye.

[@jdbb3gotskills]

I’d watch more if they had a Nascar app that I could watch all races with no commercials. Also axe the stages and playoffs. They need to stop manufacturing drama. And people will start caring like they used to.

[@itsabouttime6220]

Axe the playoffs? Are you drunk. The chase and winning to get in and the drivers getting eliminated is the best part of the championship. Agreed anything to do with stages should be eliminated!

[@dindog22]

to be honest, I rely on the radio broadcast streaming through my phone more than watching on tv. I don't have cable, but I do have Sling for watching. as for the races that are on regular broadcast tv the problem is that half the time I can't get the tv signal, especially with the Fox races. for some reason the channel that carries Fox has a terrible broadcast signal, I live in an apartment and I am limited to what type of antenna I can use. as for the Xfinity races, I'm usually at work so I just listen through my phone. if there are any good wrecks or highlights, I can always see that stuff replayed here on KZbin

[@dcstrng1]

All depends how it breaks out... I really haven't watched a "live" NASCAR race since they came out with spec cars... I get the $$$ thing as far as the spec car (just hate the idea and the penalty issues supposedly coming out of suspiciously selective rules enforcement ), in any case, they haven't improved the racing at all, so I watch the snippets/highlights after the fact on KZbin -- do listen to MRN radio more often tho... Since I'm already a Prime member, I assume there will be an additional fee from Amazon for NASCAR, so for those who have genuine broad band, this might be a reasonable option...

[@spacecalander]

@dcstrng1 i do not think there will be additional charge as they do not ask for more during NFL season with the Thursday night games. You are right the racing has not improved. They say they are spec cars and all teams can change is shocks and springs? How are they so far apart per team as far as performance goes?

[@michaelsheets6851]

Driver talent, plan and simple. I'm a Brad fan, but watching Larson do what he was doing Sunday was on another level. I was at the race track all weekend and he was junk Friday and Saturday. Brad and Saurez seemed to be the better cars. Larson Saturday passing Deegan he hit the flat to miss her being her. He found something. Then, 2 laps later, everyone else was doing it too.

[@spacecalander]

They need to allow for weight movement per track, and correct gear required for no shifting. The new car is no good. Either make them real stock cars like before or call the series something else.

[@lshamel1154]

They for sure a long way from stock cars, they need to be called FUNNY CARS! I have been trying to break myself from watching this since Bubba started flipping the bird to everyone so this just might help me to breaking the habit of wasting my time.

[@mostlyinterested1016]

When Harvick said "enough" that was it for me. The thing I really dislike is the fact that races are on TV at random times that seem to be arranged to feed markets that probably have little to no interest in NASCAR.

[@CapstoneTider]

I think Amazon would get the least amount of backlash due to more people already having it for the content or free shipping when purchasing from Amazon.

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

Agreed.

[@Z64sports]

Why don't you ask the NFL?

[@dindog22]

when I first got amazon prime it was under 10 bucks a month. it's up over 16 a month and it's going to cost more with each sports deal they add

[@BooDawgNJ]

I remember back in the early 80's many of the races were on pay-per-view. Times change, and so do the ways we watch sporting events. Although I fully agree that the fans should come first, but NASCAR has the tough job of finding that fragile balance between what the fans, sponsors, tracks, teams and drivers want. Also what needs to be considered is the longevity of the sport. The younger generation do not watch cable TV anymore... it's all streaming, so to reach that audience, or in the least to get some exposure to that audience, NASCAR is going to need to make some moves that us older fans may not like. Finally, I wonder if the sponsors consider it a plus for NASCAR to be viewed on streaming platforms? It gives their brands exposure on media outlet platforms that generally don't have any advertising. It's almost a back door into that whole new world of streaming services. In short, as much as some of us fans may not like it, the sport needs to change and adapt with the times, or face the cold reality that it will be left behind, and if that happens, then the sport, and us fans, are going to be in BIG trouble! Note to the ATCF producer: Mike Joy Rules!!! :)

[@johnhaas2523]

NASCAR has never been on Pay-Per-View whatsoever because you don't even know what the definition of pay-per-view is. ESPN is not pay-per-view FS1 is not pay-per-view

[@BooDawgNJ]

​@@johnhaas2523 OK if you say so. But there were races on pay-per-view.

[@johnhaas2523]

@@BooDawgNJ The prelude to the dream is the only thing I know that was on pay-per-view and I've seen some of the old schedules

[@BooDawgNJ]

@@johnhaas2523 in the early mid-80's some of the races at Pocono and Dover were on PPV. I also want to say that maybe even a Charlotte race was on PPV.

[@danielbullock4703]

The only ones I remember on Pay Per View were the July 88, June 89 and 90 races at Pocono. At that time Humpy Wheeler said that Pay Per View was the wave of the future. He predicted that eventually every Cup Series race would be on a Pay Per View basis

[@shannon3n8]

Reading the comments reminds me there are fans who weren't around (alive?) in the late 80s and early 90s, when specific races - Pocono, Fathers Day for example - was available as PAY-PER-LIVE-VIEW only (unless your neighbor has a full size satellite dish set up in his side yard and invited your family over to watch). Then, with the innovation of DirecTV's NASCAR HOT PASS program, where you could pay extra on your DirecTV bill to watch all the races same as on regular cable BUT with the added bonus of 5 or 6 specific drivers having a dedicated 3 person broadcast team, pit reporter, any time the driver/spotter/cc spoke it was broadcast and not censored!!, several in car cameras and dedicated on track visual tracking (and my favorite, isolated in-car non verbal ambient sound, so you could hear the engine, the gas & brakes as the driver raced.) To me and my family, THAT was the best available. Throw in the TV's picture-in-a-picture capabilities and you could watch Dale Jr's 'channel' and have the regular cable broadcast in the smaller picture to watch the race. [We also ran receiver speakers to the system so we could turn down the idiots Alan Bestwick and Wally Dallenbach from regular TV and listen to MRN or PRN instead]. I would be more apt to keep my Amazon Prime Live/Video subscription if Amazon followed the DirecTV formula. But I'm also in Kentucky, where high-speed fiber optic internet was JUST brought to my area in February 2023, so I felt the pain that others feel with regards to internet availability, reliability and cost. Regardless of the TV package offered, if the product isn't good NO one is going to watch, whether it's free or not. There aren't many fans like me around anymore, who watch no matter what. One good thing though, if it does become a pay-to-watch sport: we will always have MRN (and PRN), until that's taken away, too.

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

I never got to see that many races as a kid , we didn’t have cable and most races where on ESPN.

[@777HPNEXTGEN]

Most people won’t be able to watch the xfinity series then. Most people aren’t going to buy a separate subscription just to watch the xfinity series.

[@John-kx3ng]

The Xfinity series is about dead anyway

[@johnhaas2523]

There's a lot of people in this country that already have Amazon prime

[@777HPNEXTGEN]

@@johnhaas2523 Idk if that’s true..

[@777HPNEXTGEN]

@@John-kx3ng It sucks but it’s true.

[@sharonjones3642]

Alex Bowman will be back this weekend so more viewers. I have Amazon and Peacock but I favor Peacock over Amazon because they have other sports I like. I like because they cover all Indy's practices and qualifying and the races and the same with IMSA races. Motocross moved all their races there, too. I am dropping my cable after Tony Stewart's 6 races because I have F1 TV PRO that only carries their stuff. I am tired of switching channels to watch their practices/qualifying and races. Nascar needs their own channel for their content.

[@bowlingj74]

Lol. Alex bowman does not " attract" viewers.

[@TheTN24]

@@bowlingj74 No kidding, Chase barely moved the needle. Josh Berry moves the needles more than Bowman.

[@easyenetwork2023]

Why NASCAR never started their own network boggles my mind. They were the perfect sport to have their own network because their fanbase is specialized anyhow.

[@easyenetwork2023]

@@TheTN24Chase moved the needle. Ratings at his return race were higher than the third race through to just before Martinsville.

[@bowlingj74]

@Easy E Network he said " barely". Based on the numbers " barely" was the correct description.

[@Jodokesr-wn7oi]

I am NOT paying the Ransom for Any cable attachment to watch races. Can't afford it and will Not support it. I have always spent money where it reflected sponsor support. Tide, Hellmans, etc. It won't matter if i can't see it. Bye bye nappcar!!!!!!!

[@jimmyj422]

Streaming NASCAR won't be part of my television deal.

[@johnhaas2523]

Hahaha

[@rayisland23]

Have not watched a Nascrap race in years from "Lucky Dog","To playoff Points","To Stage Racing", Make Nascrap Great Again get back to real racing!

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

I’m not going to try and convince you but the last month has been some of the best racing in years. There’s a buzz around the sport. Internationally, too. It’s growing and I think that’s a good thing.

[@markymarc12]

FOX's coverage the last 6 years hasn't helped.

[@seen48]

The clash was down because the spectacle only lasted one year. Have an exhibition race at a different track each year. And of course ratings went down when Elliott was out! They should of had him on every broadcast just to boost ratings. NASCAR has made way too many changes in the past 5 years alone, no wonder fans have left. Heck some fans still want to go back to the old point system still if you can believe that! And people don’t like the cautions on the stages. I think they are great, restarts are exciting and it gives teams a chance to work on their cars at least twice, stops long drawn out races also.

[@garyowens8201]

Okay, I’m good with that! Bye NASCAR

[@zaxgeraci1168]

This isn’t only happening in nascar. Other sports are going towards streaming too.

[@zachronspees6432]

A solution for fans who want to watch it for cheap/free, might be the radio broadcast of MRN & PRN. Have listen to them for the past few years, and usually have a better broadcast than TV especially when it comes to information. Also a lot depends on what Nascar does with their site. What I mean is for the past few years one could watch the raw feed(no commentary) on their site. This season they offering all the in car cameras & scanners for free if one is using a computer(not the app), though no more raw feed of the TV cameras. Not to mention highlights of the race on both their site & youtube. Simply put where there is a will there is a way.

[@davidbaird5985]

Radio is always better. They actually tell you what's going on without all the BS of the on camera announcers.

[@dconkey1]

That is assuming they are carried where you live.

[@zachronspees6432]

@@dconkey1 last time I checked pretty much nationwide via the radio airwaves. If not, streaming. MRN/PRN, Nascar & quite a few of the radio station sites all do live streaming of the race.

[@shanew.williams]

@@zachronspees6432 Yes, i've been listening to NASCAR races on MRN since mid 70's, before there was ANY TV coverage

[@johnhopkins6565]

Prime does a great job with Thursday night NFL, and reportedly NFL is inking a deal to give Bezos marquis matchups every week.

[@chatruc]

I think there are too many races for the actual american interest in this sport. The famous 36 races per year came down when NASCAR was growing and growing. Now it's time to have less races, more unique races, consistent start times, early start times to avoid rain and a serious own streaming platform to stream all races, practices and qualifyings from all three national series, everything avaible from other NASCAR series and old races.

[@Lestr75]

Cant get fans to watch on broadcast, been hemorrhaging viewers for years with FX1 and now want to charge a subscription? All for a boring show. NASCAR BLOWS!

[@timothyharrison8953]

I haven't had cable TV since 2010 and do not miss it. I watch/listen to the races on the internet or if it's broadcast OTA, on my antenna. Bring on the streaming, lose the commercials!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TNBuckeye1617]

NASCAR has a caution problem. At the end of the stages (except road courses), they throw a caution. At the end of the races, they wreck the cars with multiple cautions until the white flag is taken. Enough, if they want better racing, then set up the races so the teams and drivers race better. Award your stage points without cautions. At the end of the race, let’s have a 5-Lap Warning (10 at short tracks) whereafter NASCAR will end the race at its scheduled length regardless of whether they’re on the green flag or under caution. Before the 5-lap warning, they’ll go to one attempt at going back to green. Maybe add a 20-Lap pit warning (30 at short tracks) where NASCAR won’t open pit-road for yellow flag pit stops. They used to race cleaner because of the risk that racing dumb lost them the opportunity for wins.

[@sportsflashbackofficial]

Good ideas!

[@Flying_Blind]

TV is still King and will be for a long time to come. And I'm a youtube watcher and gamer, but I'm not buying say Peacock to watch a race.

[@JustJeep_It]

I have started watching IMSA racing. I know it’s owned by NASCAR andc all but the Emser racing is really interesting kicking off the season with the 24 hours at Daytona the different types of cars and ask if you go to the track is really amazing when you compare to the restrictive type of traditional NASCAR racing I was a big NASCAR fan back in the day but I moved on and bI hope it’s still will be around for years to come IMSA is fun!

[@davidmichek8433]

I'm done. I'll watch dirt racing.

[@kurtkohlbeck3454]

I've watched NASCAR for over 60 yrs. I've been to 12 races have and spent many hours in front of my TV, but I am tired of NASCAR making changes. I am finished with going to any races. I go for the racing not concerts, carnivals or any other hoopla that they now have, maybe ticket prices would be lower if somebody did'nt have to pay for that. And changes of the tracks they want to race on i mean street racing in Chicago, really? That put the nail in the coffin for me it was just a crash fest, if I was intrested in that I would watch F1 or Indy. And NASCAR did not start racing on the backroads running moonshine that was how they made a living. They would do the actual racing on weekends at a local tracks usually dirt. NASCAR needs to listen to the fans before all of them leave. ME I will continue to go to my local1/4 mile for $15.00 and $3.00 beers and see some of the best racing in the country. Just Saying!!!!!!!

[@JoseRodriguez-rl3ch]

That happens when you put an ex-car manufacturer executive to run the sport, all he cares about is profit. That’s why the NFL is the number 1 sport in America.

[@kyle381000]

NASCAR believes that fans like the hype. They don't. They like the racing.

[@lewiswilson6429]

No I will not watch anymore. I have been a fan since the 60s but if this happens I'm I'm gone 😢

[@robertdahse4569]

I think that charging people more money isn't the answer to the drop in nascars popularity

[@leonardmartin3545]

NASCAR going down the toilet over that money