NASCAR Race Hub: how it became unwatchable

[@JasonNation72]

Steve Byrnes was the heartbeat of RaceHub, plain and simple. RIP Steve.

[@midwesttrainchasers8587]

Fox makes nascar look like a boring joke

[@naparacingfan9275]

It's very sad to see how far FOX has fallen. They were once the gold standard. Now they are the best example of what not to do for NASCAR broadcasts. Still sad the show is getting canceled even if it's not the show from the glory days of SPEED. Feels like with this cancelation they could care less about NASCAR and just have it as another property. Really hope IndyCar doesn't go to FOX!

[@DEIFAN]

Maybe they go to TNT. Or another broadcast

[@phoenixfire257]

You are younger than me and you don’t care about the money this company

[@SamBrickell]

*4:44* They put a woman in charge of something who's primary customer was men. No need to say any more.

[@tommymac3029]

Personally I like women better. Jamie Little is awesome.

[@Sport-bq5hm]

💀💀💀💀

[@michaellavin6417]

@@tommymac3029 "Jamie Little is awesome." Jamie Little tries too hard, acting as if she still must prove she belongs there. She also has taken on the Adam Alexander mode: everything is dramatic and the "most important (_______)" since the previous "(_______.)" The one who commits this sin most actually is Rick Allen, which makes NBC coverage even worse than that of Fox. Danielle Trotta was the best host; Kaitlyn Vincie is excellent. Shannon Spake has a studio style similar to Alexander. Hopefully, Kevin Harvick will be given more time to develop, since he's a natural. Fox should jettison Clint Bowyer, who brings nothing but bombast to the broadcast. Without question, Steve Byrnes and Speed were the epitome of NASCAR broadcasting. The fact that NASCAR, in the early 2000's emphasized their regional divisions, both in terms of rules, types of racetracks, and geography, made the programming must-watch. Alas, those days, not unlike so much else, remain available on here and in our memories.

[@atkearly1]

I stopped caring for it since Fox killed Speed and replace it with ESPN-like channel FS1.

[@SamLopezI]

Both fox and fs 1 are both terrible.

[@ic3man]

Once Steve Byrnes unfortunately lost his life and before that Jimmy Spencer left, I stopped enjoying it but I’d still watch incase there was any news

[@evanwilliams6406]

Steve's professionalism and he treated everything with respect, and he was the glue that held everything together. Steve Byrnes absence is something that cannot be underestimated.

[@AlanpittsS2b]

@@evanwilliams6406steve was wonderful. My father worked for General Motors performance department and when I was a kid I remember meeting Steve a handful of times and I just remember seeing him on tv and he was always so nice to me as a kid and really kind to my dad. I remember the episode when he announced his son being born

[@DEIFAN]

Honestly Eric Estepp is the best replacement

[@ic3man]

@@DEIFAN out of curiosity, why Eric Estepp?

[@DEIFAN]

@ic3man as far as news goes. Also he's has an Unbiased take on events that happen in nascar. However I wish we have some nascar channels that have the segments that SPEED HAD

[@berdiel1]

The early years of Race Hub felt like a show made by Nascar fans for Nascar fans. Over time it tried to become a sports show that would fit on any sports network. Bizarrely the opposite of NASCAR on Fox which too often feels silly and unserious Race Hub became too sterile.

[@MdM97x]

RaceHub used to be so engaging, Steve was a great host along with Danielle, and the set they used felt like they were filming it in some fans man cave with all the race memorabilia and merchandise on the walls. It was informative, funny but also just fun. Now since Fox Sports took it over in the mid 2010s after Steve died,it kinda felt lifeless. Adam Alexander and spake can get annoying and try to make everything a joke and the set became a made-up place with the green screen. Wish speed channel was still around because I feel raceHub would’ve still been pretty good.

[@Dirtydeff]

I watched it everyday when I got home from work. Not saying it couldn't have been better but I enjoyed the access it gave to a lot of the top people in the sport

[@timferguson8654]

I love Jimmy Spencer he told it like it is

[@linhunnicutt6556]

I never missed radioactive and Jimmys radio sweetheart award. That was great television.

[@ensignstephens8102]

It's not that big a deal the show just like Nascar went to pot a long time ago.

[@joealtamuro]

Race Hub became “The View” of NASCAR 😬 (okay maybe not that bad 😀)

[@knichols8899]

Spot on assessment

[@naparacingfan9275]

Harvick's Happy Hour is not a viable replacement for Race Hub!

[@Pitt-ny8cj]

Harvick should of stayed racing!

[@EndlessFlameout4]

​@@Pitt-ny8cj no he has a family and it was his decision to make, not yours

[@briancanterberry3085]

In order to see things as Brian France sees them we all need cocaine, pills, meth, alcohol, and other agencies of things to see clearly.

[@evanssego7647]

Good points! I feel that regardless of political correctness that viewership was going to decline. ESPN and other sports networks (such as NBCSN) has been on the downslope for years and in the case of NBCSN was shutdown. Simply put people can go on social media and get the news within a few minutes instead of watching a hour long show.

[@speedwayanywhere6845]

My biggest bitch about RaceHub is how repetitive the show was.Mondays were always fresh but then the rest of the week was the same script as the day before. Sure they would cover about 5 minutes of somethiing breaking but the rest was repetitive for the rest.

[@helpful5539]

Sorry for those that actually like the new hub, but it just became a fluff hot air promotion show. They spend half the show kissing nascars ass. Obviously they thought they had to make nascar happy to be pertinent or maybe were simply told that would be the way it was going to be. It is just a waste of time. No racing information or basis. They could even make about zero use of larry, not that he is any brain of conveying info. And sorry but it went to hell before any of the woke stuff started, but it may have somewhat added in the last year or so. Now into the whole disaster that is the racing product is a whole different story.

[@FuelCellFull]

The Larry McReynolds “pump the brakes” segments in 2018 were great. But like on Sundays, Fox completely wastes his talent and that was shown when they phased out that part of the show.

[@helpful5539]

@@FuelCellFull I have never liked having no crew chief or somebody that has some kind of actual racing or car knowledge on the three man team. When they went to two drivers i knew what it was all about. And actually the more they can dumb down the viewers on any tech parts of the racing and cars the easier they can con people into thinking downforce skid pad racing is a good racing product. We have a major mess in nascar today. Started about 20 years ago for the racing 'product'.

[@nikhook9430]

The roast of Tom Brady completley disproves all your politcal correctness takes. Race hub should of ended when speed becames FS1. Fox didnt buy personalitys for NASCAR like Colin Cowherd. Colin can say pretty much whatever he wants to on Fox because he’s Colin Cowherd. There are zero big nascar personalities worth taking a risk on.

[@cb24203]

The set went from looking like a cool race garage to a vacant sterile airplane hangar.

[@oskydave]

Thanks for the commentary. You make sense. We need Jimmy S.

[@bigstroke2069]

Oh no, not another "woke policeman". That's all I need is someone else telling me to "be woke" or is it "don't be woke". And what the hell is woke anyway? I thought Race Hub was about NASCAR.

[@KennyHall-x2f]

But that wasn't Nate Ryan.

[@deantait8326]

I want my “Speed” TV (Chanel)

[@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance]

During a segment a better-half of a decade ago, talking about one of Kyle Busch's and Brad Keselowski's clashes, the cast of the show started to fantasize about Busch's son and Keselowski's daughter dating each other. I was freakin' done with Race Hub after that.

[@FuelCellFull]

Wtf, that actually happened?

[@scrick7112]

Did race hub become NASCAR apologist? What Jamie Mac says is predicable, boring. You’re right on all counts.

[@michaelatkinson6730]

Jimmy Spencer was the reason I watched Race hub back in the day.

[@waynewheaton3210]

The crying towel was great!

[@24BEARCATS24]

BTW, what happened to other NASCAR show NASCAR America?

[@SuziWilliams-g1q]

❤❤ will miss the hub.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@7viewerlogic670]

Good info.

[@bombplayz7777]

yo bro, were u at the gateway race. I swear i saw u in the garage area near where they were rollin cars thru. i was on opposite side lowkey tryna get ur attention. and show a youtube symbol on my phone, like if u saw it woulda said "are you?" lmao. i didnt wanna lose my place and dumb of me not to come up and say whats good. was scared it may not of been. but def think it was...

[@FuelCellFull]

@bombplayz2053 if you saw some guy in a navy cardinal hat glued to his camera, that was probably me. Next year I will try to meetup with fans when garage/race activity is nonexistent. With how everything happens so quickly in that garage, I understand where you’re coming from.

[@curtisharvey5579]

I didn't mind Shannon, but the fully green screen sterile set is awful. Creates an awkward environment for the people involved, and takes the relatability out of the show. NBC's nascar shows are good to watch with their proper sets and garage feel

[@cashkenterprises5584]

Shannon was fine, but Danielle Trotta was elite

[@timferguson8654]

I think it all got too technical and the cost may have got out of hand

[@norme2681]

I totally agree with the original cast gone, I quickly lost interest. I had it setup on my DVR and watched most every episode up until then. I admit Danielle was not hard to look at, she has several times more broadcasting talent than Spake. No one could replace Steve, he was just a jewel for the sport and with Jimmy to lighten everything up and have some fun. I know things change but FS1 just ruined this show. Personally I would like to see FOX sell off all rights to NASCAR they are just in it for commercial sales no matter the commercial relates to race fans or not.

[@patricktuggles4815]

You're so right. We need another speed like network again. Racing on all day long

[@COCarDude]

Powertubetv on roku and KZbin. The guys who started it bought a bunch of the old content that they produced for speed back in the day

[@jdwht2455]

I stopped watching about 2 weeks after Shannon Spake started shouting at me via the TV. I even mute her when she is on the pre race shows. Kaitlin Vinci does a great job tho as does Jaime Little tho I'm not fond of her race commentaries. RIP Steve Byrnes and goodbye again to my all time fave, Jimmy Spencer

[@waynewheaton3210]

I agree. I forgot how good Race Hub was back in the day (And NASCAR).

[@helpful5539]

I want espn type broadcasts back. They just did the races and not a lot of hot air promotion. nascar can't have that kind of thing, as they have a lame product so they have to spend all day telling you it is good. Allen Bestwick was one of the best announcers if we can't have the real best, the ones from decades ago.

[@richardfolmer962]

Allen bestwick is excellent

[@SGNbuff]

i can't stand Adam Alexander, he thinks he is a commedian. Shannon has awful taste in clothes.

[@helpful5539]

I call double a airhead adam. I don't expect the hosts and play by play people to be racers, but all they know are the tag lines and words to use or what questions to ask. I can't stand that jerk mike no joy and I am worried that the heir to that would be airhead. With how dumb and useless he is I guess he would be better than thinks he's better than us no joy.

[@atkearly1]

Glad I'm not the only one that can't stand "AA". I stopped watching the Fox Xfinity portion of the schedule mainly because of him. I would watch it if the Cup commentary team was doing Xfinity Series like the early 2000's. And when "Radioactive" gets release on KZbin, I'll wait until NASCAR's KZbin channel uploads it, so I didn't have to see/hear him.

[@Southern-author]

I mostly stopped watching when Jimmy Spencer left. The show started to resemble 'The View' with meaningless racing chit-chat and with scripted, fake laughter.

[@NASCARFAN93100]

Hard to believe NASCAR Race Hub will be in the same conversation alongside Wheel of Fortune with Pat Sajak as Host in regards to saying their Final Farewell 4 Days from now

[@GregBrownsWorldORacing]

Goes on the scrapheap where they belong.

[@briancanterberry3085]

I am friends , good friends, with Katelynn. She was granted that job and never has been in a good feeling for it.

[@wayneanderson1641]

I'm so old I don't remember being a teenage boy. But I remember Caitlin Vincent. I'm just too old to spell her name 😎

[@gregfisher8308]

Sad to see Race Hub go. The only real NASCAR information show on the air. It's needs to be replaced with something similar. Yes, Race Hub can be repetitive at times but I usually record it anyway so I just fast forward past the parts I had already seen. It still contained good informative information. And it beats out in viewership that pathetic Undisputed show. Cancel that bullshit and leave Race Hub on. Screw undisputed.

[@dcnascarboy0514]

What will happen to Radioactive?

[@calebfromworldofsports]

I now watch the speedway review

[@dcnascarboy0514]

When did you change your username?

[@michaeljenkins746]

Unwatchable I still watch it today and enjoy it I'm currently catching up on recordings of it now from this year I still love it

[@AlanpittsS2b]

Rip Steve Byrnes. He really was a good man and an asset to the sport. I remember the episode where he talked about his son being born

[@wysetech2000]

I used to watch Race Hub daily and enjoyed the coverage as well as the controversy it covered. Jimmy Spencer was a better driver than he got credit for but I used to laugh so hard at him sometimes, like eating his cigar. His segment was totally different than anything I had ever seen. Problem was that a lot of fans hated Spencer for things he did on the track. Then, where I live Race Hub became pay per view and I decided that I could not afford to pay extra for it. My cable was almost unaffordable already. I think Fox is slowly going into the toilet anyway. People are tired of their blatantly biased Politics.

[@calebfromworldofsports]

This week in NASCAR

[@paulrodrigues9603]

I was an avid watcher. But My downfall was It was on while I was driving home from work. So I'd record it. But then my wife would change our provider 500 times because the price went up. So I lost intrest in trying to figure out how to record it all the time. Spencer was the best.

[@matthewmcqueary9057]

Steve Burns' overall love and respect for the sport along with his professional mindset and love for broadcasting, made that show work.

[@mikefeltner4216]

Greatest Show Ever!!

[@jamessimms415]

I quit watching several years ago. Much as I like Larry Mac, NASCAR & Race Hub became unwatchable

[@karenperdue4879]

RPM Tonight and And the show that Dave Spain was the best two shows at the time

[@Whitepbass21]

I have KZbin subscriptions to nascar channels where I get all my nascar news. I haven’t watched racehub in years. KZbin coverage is better

[@Arnold-l1k]

Look at the difference between how Formula 1 handles their broadcast to Their audience versus what Fox doing now in terms of NASCAR., when it was on ABC it was much better to be honest compared to now

[@KaisasDad]

I stopped watching Pre & Post race shows long ago. I'm sick of hearing John Roberts say how GREAT everything in NASCAR is. When Kenny Wallace found something positive to say after The Great Brickyard Tire Disaster race I was done.

[@mikebaumgartner1210]

Shannon Spake awful ? She is great ,you are nuts boy !

[@frankm9721]

It did start to get boring a long time ago. Won't miss it.

[@aaronclawson835]

That's the problem with race hub. They got so woke, they couldn't talk about anything anymore. They might offend someone ridiculous.

[@mitchblanton8085]

Race Hub evolved into Entertainment Tonight format, NASCAR race fans don't watch Entertainment Tonight !

[@davidebasinger2997]

Shannon was eye candy for me, Vincie used to be eye candy on pit road cause of her big fun bags but then they put her in studio and then she had kids and all and she became a bore and really doesn’t know a damn thing honestly.

[@nascardrawings7700]

So in short they had to become factual rather than entertaining for PR sake. We saw this cut with race hub happening. NASCAR is going down the toilet because everything is too expensive, nobody has a sponsor, everybody has to be 100% PR friendly, and everybody is so vanilla except for Kyle Busch. There is nothing they can do either. NASCAR the sanctioning body kept trying to change the car in the 2010s thinking that would improve viewership but it made it 10 times worse. So I’m jumping ship. I’m watching Indycar.

[@rzeric]

Man Jimmy Spencers crying towel deals were sooooooo funny!! shannon was cute till she turned her face into dracula and the other gal with giant lips.

[@rzeric]

what ever happend to rutledge clown guy?

[@sculptureflame68]

Everyone has an opinion and mine is the opposite of this video. I’ve looked forward to the show for years. It was a great informative avenue to keep up with NASCAR. I’ll certainly miss Race Hub but I won’t have a problem missing your future videos.

[@mistert7958]

All the diversity hires have ruined the sport, and ruined the coverage. NASCAR has so much history and characters to draw from, why promote talking (bubble) heads?

[@GregBrownsWorldORacing]

I watched every day until I didn't.

[@craigkemmerzell5741]

Nascar has lost it way 😢

[@rodneyhankins6417]

I'm very sad about this.

[@Vigilant_Guardian]

the team will go to a new home together. , it is my nightly news

[@americanwalmarts3565]

I didn't even ever watch Race Hub, I get all my NASCAR news from Eric Estepp and The Daily Downforce

[@MrRoute661]

So “Parrot”Allen…mimics what other commentators say…and “Ho-Hum Burton…I have his voice recorded so I can go to sleep…are better? NOT!!!

[@Tom-jy3jd]

Right on, unwatchable

[@links5957]

Ummmmm never heard race hub, since coming back to nascar since early mid 2000s

[@casey6518]

Uhhh I want miss Race Hub, haven't watched it daily in about 10 years, it got where it was a just repeat of race highlights almost daily & boring. The Speed channel had better shows & I never missed the after race Sunday night shows & weekly news.

[@ojtoothpaste2240]

How about having ladies run the show that know nothing about nascar and never drove a racecar. Just to get eye candy.

[@jamesgibbons6292]

Watched the daily fuel then deleted it.

[@Oharaboxing]

They got rid of the people who told it how it was. Instead, they settled for boring personalities. Yawn.

[@Beauxtrux]

NASCAR as a whole is just unwatchable! Boring races until the last ten laps when NASCAR throws the weenie wrapper caution to bunch them up, too many rules, cars are all alike, and drivers are whining prima donnas. I live eight miles from Charlotte track and haven't been to a race in about 15 years!

[@andyhamilton8940]

NAPCAR

[@daleolson3506]

What is there to report on? There is nothing of interest.

[@greglewellen4510]

Political correctness has ruined nascar and America for that matter

[@Tom-jy3jd]

Yup ugh

[@willeubanks4957]

After they went to the fort nite graphics I stopped watching. The show.just looks so cheaply done.

[@grinningg]

Won't miss the fake laughs. ha ha ha. Never asked hard questions, They say stuff we already knew. It has to be politically correct. Limited what they can say, its about the family garage folks

[@GregBeaulieu-c3t]

Holy cow. Just about every point this guy makes is way off base. The original show was fun, but it wasn't a very professional presentation and a good amount of the supposed comedy was cringey or fell flat. Jimmy Spencer had the nickname "Mr. Excitement" back in the day but he was terrible on screen and in any event is now "Mr. Irrelevant" when it comes to NASCAR. But you really went off the rails when you blamed Shannon Spake for the show's downfall. How absurd can you get? She is totally professional and an excellent host. She does other work for Fox besides Race Hub. Then going off on a completely unsupported tangent about the show being muzzled because of criticisms from NASCAR or sponsors is just the icing on a very bad cake. Maybe you should consider a different podcast subject.

[@KimberlyAllen-c2b]

Lame as hell…. Might ought to check your facts !!!!!

[@helpful5539]

Most of that is hilarious. But you get your opinion

[@outfield1988]

Fox is going woke.

[@alanscott8719]

Nascar just sucks

[@michaela.2933]

I miss racing( as a driver and a fb) one day nacr may bring back nascar racing. It totally sucks niw

[@c.d.8975]

Their downfall was not interviewing Ryan Preece weekly 👌🪠