NASCAR "Tiregate" Cheating Controversy 1998

[@BardelystheMagnificent]

Roush's argument would have had merit if it were a 12 lap run, but Gordon ran 70 laps on those right sides. If you go back and watch the full race, the commentators note that the tire doesn't fall off much and lots of them would take two late in the race if it made sense. Everyone thought 70 was too early, but Evernham rolled the dice and won. Truth is, Martin had a championship season while Gordon had an all-time season. Thems the breaks.

[@Sinister_Grin]

Roush and Ford are just bitter because he lost out on Jeff and Evernham to Hendrick Chevrolet 😂

[@kensimpson8133]

Softer tires that also lasted longer? Evernham knew how to setup a car, and what to do to give his driver what he needed.

[@Tony-py2mr]

@@kensimpson8133 sheep

[@therealnynetynyne360]

Traction control

[@travismaxwell9805]

I knew several PHD level engineers that worked for Hendricks back then. One had an unlimited budget to look at cam shaft harmonics that would give 0.1 more power which is a significant amount. The tire deal never made sense to me because NASCAR does not want soft tires because they don’t last and chemical softeners make tires soft. Gordon seemed to have tires that lasted longer, but some of that could have been driver and all the other science projects that was going on then. It would be interesting to test a set of tires using the recipe compared to a set of untreated.

[@MMCS07]

Yeah

[@fivestar8337]

The whole "air pressure adjustments" werent common practice at this time. Mostly just wedge and trackbar. He went up on air so the car fired off quicker. Martin had to wait on the pressures to build.

[@therealnynetynyne360]

No, air pressure had been used since at least the 70s to effect handling. It was less effective of an adjustment with the radial tires nascar switched to in 88 iirc. The old bias ply tires would change more with air pressure

[@fivestar8337]

@therealnynetynyne360 I watched the race that day. He went up on air. He even says it in the video. If it was so common why didn't Martins team do the same? The biggest adjustments at this time were wedge and trackbar. If you watched and listened to any of the scanners at the time you would know this.

[@therealnynetynyne360]

@fivestar8337 and if 6ou spent any time around the sport in the 80s, which yes was before this, air pressure was always an adjustment, when you hear stagger referenced it was mainly one with air pressure not tire size. Air pressure in t he radial tires was higher return sure but to sqy that they didn't use air pressure as an adjustment before this is just ignorant

[@fivestar8337]

@therealnynetynyne360 i did not say it wasn't used. I said it wasnt common. And I did not say anything about "the 80s". Are you just making things up to argue?

[@therealnynetynyne360]

@fivestar8337 pointing out 2 decades of prior air pressure use, not common practice at this time, before this and after this it was common practice why would they stop doing something that worked just stopping for that 24 team to make everyone start doing it again? Your statement was straight horseshit, at no time since at least the 70s was air pressure not a common adjustment

[@777HPNEXTGEN]

Gordon just outdrove Martin. Gordon won 13 races one year. 😳

[@brandonenglund7516]

Lost a lot of respect for Jack Roush over this. Gordon was just another league in 98

[@WarpandXeno88]

The Gordon/Evernham combination was so effective it looked like cheating. Ray was one of the best ever at adjusting a car to make it better. All Gordon had to do was tell him what it's doing and Ray could fix it.

[@MMCS07]

He sure was

[@JohnW-b5j]

Yes Gordon Was Great And Tony Stewart Was Too. They Had Perfect Match With Crew Chief. I Like Chastain Because Of His Can Do Attitude Even If It Doesn’t Work He Does It Anyway. Arguable Of Course. 😊

[@TheOfficialRandomGuy]

To add to that, Ray said that Gordon could explain what was going on with the car better than anyone. He also believes that’s a reason for Jimmie Johnson’s success, and that Johnson began to fall off when Gordon retired.

[@therealnynetynyne360]

And ray eluded to primitive traction control was available at that time, and a few teams were using it

[@StoneyKenobi212]

A good driver actively thinks about tire management and tire heat as you go around a track. The ability to "feel" your tires is a gift a lot of drivers don't have. Great Video btw, Cheers.

[@MMCS07]

So true. Thank you and for watching’

[@JohnW-b5j]

It’s Racing! Since Stewart And Gordon Retired I Keep Up With Chastain With Trackhouse. Looking Forward To Daytona 2025 In February. 😊❤

[@Isaacmantx]

All I know is I HATED racing against number 24 in NASCAR 99 on N64 back in the day…

[@MMCS07]

😊

[@MxDeNaglowska]

The biggest thing Ray was doing to the cars was chassis design. Find a way to stiffen a chassis, it fades less throughout a race and handles more constantly. We know he was doing things with the chassis thanks to the T Rex car. And don't misunderstand; he wasn't cheating. He was building a stiffer, better race car. The danger of that is a stiffer car gives less in a wreck. Consider; Gordon's dominance dropped off in direct correlation to a surge of deaths. Reason? Other teams caught up to what they were doing, likely thanks to the confiscation of the T Rex. However, this increased the odds of someone getting hurt due to the more rigid cars. And again, I'm not saying Ray did anything wrong or illegal. He built a better race car that ultimately had unintended consequences.

[@MMCS07]

Yeah

[@davidbryant6779]

I’ll buy that explanation

[@LVM5584]

Jack Roush is a whiney little baby. They couldn’t beat the 24 team so let’s make up a bunch of excuses and throw a hissy fit. I like Mark Martin but after this in 98 I was rooting even more for Gordon.

[@JJA1987]

Jack Roush screwed Mark out of 2 Championship's and Mark isn't hiding his criticisms towards the team now that he's retired

[@jdtractorman7445]

Actually, only one. Nascar screwed them out of the first one in 1990. That whole deal was created because crybaby earnhardt and childress complained to Nascar about Roush's intake manifold/spacer height measurements. Nascar docked him points and money only because it "was a rule in the rulebook". Nascar themselves said that there was zero gain from it. That's correct. No horsepower gain, no increased torque in the engine and no fuel mileage gain.

[@seanmichaelmartinez]

Jeff Gordon Victory Winner 5:09

[@seanmichaelmartinez]

Jeff Gordon Full Race 1998

[@Dupontman627]

Gordon couldn't be beat that year

[@sithyarael6807]

Now do all the times Jimmy Johnson got away with very blatant cheating.

[@Malachi_Marx]

so: never?

[@NASCARfan38-v6n]

@@Malachi_Marx constantly

[@Spectrum_Auto_Spa]

"Supposedly". Not "supposably"

[@zerodos_02]

Jack being Jack. All there is to it. I don't doubt someone sent him that package, and Jack being Jack, couldn't help but run wild with that thought. Track position had alot to do with that speed Gordon had as well. Can't fix bitter.

[@MMCS07]

Yeah

[@bfoor24]

I remember this very well. That 1998 season will be unmatched

[@MMCS07]

Yup

[@hemichump]

soft tyres wear out quicker so it wouldn't make sense

[@davidwright833]

Depending on the chemical and method You can prep a tire, give it substantially more grip and not soften it one single point.

[@MMCS07]

Yeah

[@paulcoinc]

Cheating has been a part of racing as long as there has been racing. That being said something anyone knows anything about racing. Softer tires are faster, they also wear out faster. I mean Ray knew the rules (Trex) and how to push them. He did his fair share of cheating, thats part of his job. The team didn't cheat with the tires. I will be texting a buddy and saying he did but hey trash talk among friends right?

[@MMCS07]

Yeah

[@FadetoBlack1463]

What were they doing that was cheating??

[@Ghost29303]

Gordan used the good air .

[@MMCS07]

Yep

[@JRRacing64]

Didn't they use Nitrogen instead of air by then?

[@RayTuttle-of5qd]

It ain’t cheating if you don’t get caught !

[@MMCS07]

Lol

[@Malachi_Marx]

Jeff is the GOAT. The best driver during the most competitive era. Larson MIGHT get there, but its doubtful.

[@MMCS07]

Larson. Lol

[@Dalenumba3]

😂

[@NASCARfan38-v6n]

Wrong doofus! Dale Earnhardt is and always will be the goat his era was just as competitive and he won 7 cups to Jeff’s 4

[@NASCARfan38-v6n]

Dale Earnhardt is and always will be the greatest in NASCAR history better than Jeff 7 to 4

[@LVM5584]

In Gordon’s defense the stupid gimmick chase/playoffs robbed him of multiple championships

[@seanmichaelmartinez]

Jeff Gordon Old Livery Paint Scheme 0:12

[@TheTotallyRealXiJinping]

Front Grand Stands 0:10

[@BigLeek-ig3sb]

0:69 my ass

[@jagmodyoutube4264]

If you ain't cheating then you ain't trying

[@jamiebowles4588]

DuPont is a CHEMICAL company. Lap times (on the last set of 'magic' tires) tell the tale, race after race.

[@MMCS07]

True!

[@24slipknot]

Funny how the anonymous source sent samples to the second place team. That’s not suspicious at all…

[@MMCS07]

Right

[@richweir5186]

Softer tires wear 2 times faster.... This was crap.

[@therealnynetynyne360]

It was a primitive traction control device, ray danced around it on a podcast a few years ago. And this scandal is why all the tires are confiscated after every race.

[@MMCS07]

Yeah

[@jdtractorman7445]

I thought Ray said they were not soaking their tires. Can't he make up his mind if he is cheating or not.

[@therealnynetynyne360]

@@jdtractorman7445 traction control is not soaking tires, it was sensors measuring rpm and if it detected inconsistencies between the rear wheels it would apply brake pressure to keep you from spinning the rear creating super loose conditions. The primitive versions of this were available as early as 1990 by this time they had made them small enough to use without being caught. I know for a fact there was an act tour and busch north driver using one in 1992, saw it with my own eyes.

[@johnbrooker6134]

Did Rousch ever apologize?

[@MMCS07]

No

[@DBravo29er]

Soft tires wear more quickly. It's that simple.

[@Al_Nunnery]

Yeah NASCAR was wrong for those accusations. Gordon Didn't Cheat- Gordon was One of The Best Ever to Sit in A Race Car - had he been cheating Dale Earnhardt wouldn't have been such a good friend of Gordons, Dale Earnhardt even took him out on his yacht Sunday Money .

[@Al_Nunnery]

Then talk to Gordon up into buying a yacht so you got to get one you got to get one and Gordon found out boats was nothing but a big hole in the water that you throw money into . Gordon even done the interview telling that and it's somewhere on KZbin now

[@ItiscalledaMANDATE]

DuPont is a chemical company right?... Air pressure adjustments were very common in this era but rarely netted those results. NASCAR wasn't motivated to tear down "their sport" to out this kind of problem if it existed.

[@spunn_co]

dude cheated hes hole NASCAR career why do you think he wants so many times

[@spunn_co]

Xylene is a chemical agent that can be used to treat tires. Xylene is a solvent used in a variety of industries, including rubber, paint, and printing. Race cars use nitrogen-filled tires to reduce tire pressure variations. Even small changes in pressure can impact the handling of high-performance vehicles at high speeds. or ACRYSOL= mild softener, cleaning, usually used to cut another prep or preprep to allow deeper or quicker penetration

[@FadetoBlack1463]

@@spunn_co They never found those chemicals.....................

[@FadetoBlack1463]

Negative

[@MMCS07]

Lol

[@jamesblocker5235]

Hendrix team would never cheat they have never been chaught cheating nascar found Hendrix teams cheating over and over but they would never cheat right they are just very moral company that never had a devise that manipulated the spoiler to move up or down by driver so all of Ray and Jeffy fans will always say they never cheated they never were caught that’s what people should be saying

[@FadetoBlack1463]

In English

[@MMCS07]

Yeah

[@pittsky]

Almost all of them cheat.

[@MMCS07]

Yeah

[@stargazer2504]

As someone who has abandoned NASCAR since 2005, but had cheered on MM and JR.... It will NEVER be resolved whether Gordon cheated, or anything. I do know that NASCAR was all about their "50 Year Anniversary" in 1998 so I suspect they wanted a specific person (young, energetic, new) to face the media... So my bet is that NASCAR somehow helped the "new face" of NASCAR.... much like NHL favors an original 6 team....

[@MMCS07]

Yeah

[@FadetoBlack1463]

Untrue

[@anandguruji83]

NASCAR "Tiregate" Cheating Controversy 1998

[@anandguruji83]

NASCAR "Tiregate" Cheating Controversy 1998

[@PatrickCulp-q4x]

I can not Stand 24 my Opinion he still suck 1,000%

[@MMCS07]

Lol

[@MMCS07]

Lol

[@FadetoBlack1463]

Why ?

[@spunn_co]

Xylene is a chemical agent that can be used to treat tires. Xylene is a solvent used in a variety of industries, including rubber, paint, and printing. Race cars use nitrogen-filled tires to reduce tire pressure variations. Even small changes in pressure can impact the handling of high-performance vehicles at high speeds. or ACRYSOL= mild softener, cleaning, usually used to cut another prep or preprep to allow deeper or quicker penetration

[@MMCS07]

Yeah

[@FadetoBlack1463]

Those chemicals were never found