Seagate Hard Drives - Before You Buy

[@syncmonism]

LOL, sir, you underestimate how old some of us are. There used to be a lot more popular hard-drive brands other than just WD, Seagate, and Toshiba. I don't know what brand of hard drive was in my family's first PC, a Mac Plus, but I know that the first hard drive I had in a windows PC was Fujitsu (which ran great for many years until I eventually retired it because it was too small), and my second hard drive was a Quantum/ Maxtor drive, which also worked well until the warranty was nearly out, when it failed, and I then sent it in for warranty service and it served me for another 5 years or so until I eventually retired it. I have owned one Seagate and many, many WD drives as well over the years though. I'm not even that old. I'm 39, but I'm sure that some of your viewers are a lot older than me.

[@musicbuddy1382]

Okay grandpa

[@CMDai1]

Thank you so much, it is because of your videos I have switched all my personal, work and my family environment to my own NAS from the cloud. How much NAS has progressed in the last 5-10 years is amazing. Thanks for bringing excitement back, keep the content comming!

[@sunvarutube]

Hi Atlantis, What is your configuration, I am struggling with it. 2 bay vs 4 bay , HDD RPM vs Cache. Five users will be using and storing the data, Basically personal data, Photos and Videos

[@thefulchman]

I had three Seagate IronWolf 4TB drives that were showing a predictive failure in my QNAP NAS. This was after some power issues at my house. Seagate not only replaced them, but they replaced them with the IronWolf PRO 4TB drives. I probably just got lucky, but that gave me the feel-goods about Seagate support.

[@nascompares]

Tbh Todd, that sounds like a case of drive availability and a recent rejig of their product line up resulting in those better drives being the best option for Seagate. However kudos to them for doing the right/good thing and sorting you out with improved mediam

[@Sombre____]

Seagate HDD are fragile. I don't recommand to buy seagate.

[@DelphinusVyse]

@@Sombre____ Really not a helpful comment. ALL HDD are fragile because they are precision mechanical devices. Some fail more than others but without any context, this comes off sounding like you had a bad experience with Seagate and are now just telling everyone they're bad based on that.

[@Sombre____]

@@DelphinusVyse Seagate is just pretty bad. :)

[@benadriel]

@@Sombre____ Then what do you suggest??

[@PaoloScaramuzzino]

Thanks

[@nascompares]

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[@nascompares]

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[@wayneosman8971]

It's march 21, 2021 and, O"Boy I love your video, that and the fact I bought a Seagate EXOS. three days ago, for all the reasons you mentioned. There is a tipping point that comes with buying anything, in this case I have an abundance of hard drives along with plenty of SATA ports eight to be exact on each of two Motherboards and extra SATA controller cards. Yet todays Computer cases lack 3.5" storage space. Most only allow for 2 or 3 mechanical drives and some up to 8 SSD's and Nvme.M.2's but the newer cases if selected right will also come equipped with incredible dust filters. Cleaning dust from computers three times a year by taking them apart can be dangerous. Mine are or were RAID/ JOBD. (I did back-up first) and I needed to change out a power supply that didn't help. In the end deciding to use one large EXOS made it easier. P.S I clicked "Liked", "Subscribed", and clicked the "Bell" for all your videos.

[@nassimabed]

Thanks a ton for this video. Finally, a decent demystification of what these are all about. Really much appreciated.

[@adrianandrews2254]

I'm using 4 off Exos X16 12TB drives in my NAS with 10GBit Networking and my other PCs diskless booting. The Exos were the obvious choice. Very happy so far.

[@donphobos]

Kudos for not knocking them over. I have watched your sound tests and love them. Great piece of information.

[@nascompares]

THANK YOU! Genuinely astounded I didn't elbow them even once.. I'm the biggest clutse you'll ever meet!

[@RobFisherUK]

Bit of a spoiler, this comment! 😝

[@ZiemsRyan]

I can't believe he didn't knock even one over!! Great content, thank you!

[@nvo_truenemogaming7258]

17:10 I started laughing! Thank you for your time and efforts, I do appreciate somebody like you, doing so much for our IT community!

[@SP4CEBAR]

best intro ever, now everyone is interested

[@bobbymoss6160]

The newest generation of Exos Mach.2 SATA drives are near silent inside the Expansion line of external HDDs, the components they use to dampen the vibration is amazing. Even after I shuck them and put them inside a 4 bay NAS, they're still very very quiet compare to any other enterprise HDDs.

[@joesworld396]

Seagate are more affordable than any other brand, but my personal experience has been that Seagate is also less reliable than any other brand. If I can't depend on the drive, how much it costs doesn't matter.

[@BrianGarside]

I hope my Exos drives are comparable to WD.

[@Stevefhu]

I've only been buying Western Digital for years because of their reliability. I've only had 1 die without warning (click of death after 2 years, covered under warranty) out of all I've had but almost every other brand that I've tried (including Seagate) have had a high failure rate. WDs aren't even that much more expensive than Seagates. I'll always take reliability over cost.

[@BrianGarside]

@@Stevefhu I to am a WD Gold and Black edition buyer until recently I tried the Seagate Exos since that is the enterprise grade drives and so far 8 of my drives are running perfect in my NAS. I was impressed with the durability and many folks use them like Robbie.

[@Trifler500]

I build a lot of computers for customers, and in my experience, Seagate had a couple of really bad models in the past, but I find they've really improved. They're also much quieter than WD drives, so I prefer them these days.

[@scalamasterelectros3204]

@@Trifler500 the only thing that matters in a hard drive is reliebility and speed qwietnes is not a consern

[@whothefoxcares]

Hiring a computer operator to perform nightly backups is a good idea. Off site storage is a better idea. *Nobody has ever recovered from a real disaster* without backups.

[@pidity]

Great video, thanks! Interestingly, while (looking at product manuals for 10TB drives) the older Ironwolf Pro models (such as ST10000NE0008) should be about 1dB quieter than EXOS drives, the latest ST10000NE000 Ironwolf Pro model now has the same acoustic specs as its EXOS counterpart (ST10000NM001G). Noise may be going away as a differentiating factor.

[@MrPir84free]

I've been a loyal Seagate customer for decades; I've tried other brands over the years, including WD drives, and some others, and always come back to Seagate. When purchasing for the company, always have been choosing Seagate when possible. They've just been the more reliable brand overall.. For home use, I tend to boot and run from SSD, but for raw storage, I tend to prefer the slower spindle speeds and larger cache. In a NAS at home, I still would lean towards a slower drive for less noise, less heat, and hopefully longer life. The data recovery feature, while it sounds like a nice feature, well, I'm going to say my drives tend to last longer than the warranty anyways, so while it's insurance, it's insurance that will often NEVER get collected upon. Playing the odds: Only a fool keeps his/her important data on one drive, and waits for it to fail. If you know the manufacturer's warranty, for all intents and purposes, assume 80% of that, and be prepared for failure at that point. Check your drives and backups on a routine basis; a NAS is not a backup device, although it can be. Keep at least 3 copies of your important data, on 3 different systems, separate systems. Ideally, two or more of your copies will be on OFFLINE (powered down ) backups. I'd lean towards SSD drives for the really important stuff- keeping them as offline media.

[@pioni2]

I'm using Seagate drives on all of my NAS units. Previously my go-to was the Ironwolf and Ironwolf Pro, but both of these had quality issues as I've had to replace almost every drive in two 8-bay units during the first 1,5 years. The first replacement drives failed as well, some even before the RAID was rebuilt. All that when Seagate was not honoring warranty and refunded me the cost of a drive when I had a degraded RAID arrays, sometimes two, desperately in need of new drives. My latest NAS has 8x Exos 18TB and it has been working so much better, no SMART status errors, no broken drives and they are fast. The only thing that bugs me is that they are slightly louder than the Ironwolf drives (sounds like boiling eggs). I might have bought Ironwolf for the latest NAS as well, but nobody had any drives. Even the Exos drives were hard to get, I waited almost two months for some. Now I've bought replacement drives that are waiting for a failure just because I can't rely on the warranty and degraded RAID arrays can't wait 2-3 months for a new drive.

[@AndreiBarsan]

20:30 I can confirm this in Canada too! I managed to get 3x 12Tb Exos drives cheaper than IronWolf PROs of the same capacity a few months ago. I actually love their louder robotic noise, it reminds me of my childhood (loud 20Gb 2001 HDDs, anyone? :D) and gives off a nice cyberpunk vibe.

[@bertnijhof5413]

What about 1988 20MB or 1993 300MB?

[@firenado4295]

lol my voip server has on of those 20gb 2001 hdds in it, makes a hell of a racket booting but after that its fine

[@mojaslovenija9903]

20 Gb? My 286 AT from late 80-ie, which was "top shit" was with a "wow" 20 Mb HDD. I received SCSI 1 GB HDD in 1993 and needed to get personal at the customs as it was kind of "not earth tech"...not to mention it was a month salary price.

[@russbrown4510]

@@bertnijhof5413 lol 😪I fill old my first pc mem was 1981-82 it only 32 bit mem that came from 1.5' and 3.5 floppy. Now those were loud but still not as loud as dot matrix sawing across each line of print.

[@Physics072]

@@bertnijhof5413 Or my 1980s 40MB and my whopping 105mb for my dial up bbs. When I got the 40MB my friends said "Are you crazy" that is way over kill. But we had 48k computers and a huge game was 32k not megabyte or Gigabyte.

[@davidlescarbeau521]

Very informative video! Thank you! Exos are noisy indeed, but as stated by another commenter, it is not an annoying sound, in fact I like it pretty much.

[@henlofren7321]

Every seagate drive that I have ever purchased has failed within 3 years, purchased new. I still have 10+ year old WD drives that work great without a single failure so far, and I purchased most of them heavily used...

[@freddymiguelponce]

GREAT video as always! Do you have similar video but comparing WD? Thanks in advance and sorry for my English i'm still learning Have a Productive and Healthy day!

[@flym256x]

I has 2 WD hard drives in my life. Both failed. For last 15 years I only buy Seagate (nas, external drives, pc). No issues at all. I am very happy with Seagate

[@jerryfacts9749]

Excellent information in this video! Thanks! I have been using Seagate drives for many years. I've also used other manufacture drives. I've had very few issues with drives. I found when installed with fans blowing air over the drive surfaces for cooling they lasted longer. Since SSDs became reasonable in cost I have been using them for boot drives. I use hybrid drives for data storage. With small business and home computers I have had these drives last for some years with very little failure. It is important to buy a drive designed for the type of use if you want decent performance and reliability. In commercial environments where the drives are heavily used failures were happening more often.

[@gumy99]

Thank you for sharing, which HDDs would you recommend to go for in a NAS if mostly used as a photography storage accessed occasionally? I understand NAS is not a back up solution, but I would like to use it as raid 6 and actually have it as a main storage.

[@aarondaines7163]

Thanks so much for explaining my question on the difference from the wolf and exos. The sale for the 14 tb verses the wolf makes it hundreds of dollars cheaper than the wolf at the moment

[@StephenWagner]

Great video explaining things we all are curious to know but never find the time to learn. Thanks! :)

[@daveg4417]

I use WD NVMe, SSD, and Hard Drives in my computers. I use Seagate Exos in my home 4-bay NAS, and Seagate IronWolf in my 2-bay off-site cloud VPN NAS. The IronWolf are a lot quieter, but the Exos were cheaper per TB. I am a bit paranoid with my data, I maintain a 7-2-2 backup setup.

[@trustedsource1273]

I have over 1.1PB gross capacity, 800TB after RAID installed in NAS systems I have built up over the years. My oldest is a HA Synology from 7 years ago with 24 x 10TB HGST SAS drives. One drive has failed in the last 7 years. In other NAS I have added over the years I have used EXOS drives. None have failed. My latest addition is 12 x 20TB Ironwolf Pro. in a rackmount Qnap. The Pro drives were cheapest this time. In each case my priorities were 1) suitability for purpose then 2) price per TB. Since they live in their own separately cooled room with much louder servers, noise isn't a problem. I use these for large scale development, simulation and research archives.

[@rahulshah1408]

That intro is awesome!!!

[@brandonstews238]

Exos cheaper than ironwolf at this moment. Went for the exos and I’m excited for them! Four 14tb entering my data hoarding life!

[@6806goats1]

Went with the same drives in my DS916+ but one recently crashed in 6 months. Hoping it's just a fluke deal, trying to work with Seagate now on the replacement. Thinking about going to a DS1621+, just purchased another drive as a backup to get the current NAS back online. Maybe both new drives will arrive around the same time and rebuild the volume. Guess I should repair the volume 1 drive at a time. With the DS1621+ not sure if I'll stay with one drive SHR or move to a 2 drive SHR. Unless there are reasons to use 2 drives, I'll try to stay with a 1 drive SHR.

[@Ghennesph]

MAXTOR, actually Hitachi was better than all of them Pretty sure harddrives are just binning and firmware. The different labels come from the same factory, dependent on the maximum capacity in the range and to some extent specification. (22TB generation exos, ironwolf, barracuda pro, all come from 22TB factory, all helium filled, all 7200rpm, all the same mechanism. just different bin and firmware)

[@Brosfight_]

I would love to see a new comparison video between Exos and Ironwolf Pro Drives, because the new Ironwolf Pro generation (e.x ST8000(NT)001 / 500TB per Year Workload, 2M MTBF and unlimited drive bays supported) rivals the Exos Drives in my opinion. I would like to hear your thoughts about it.

[@angelamorley9921]

I run Seagate Barracuda 2.5" drives in my NAS, but I 100% expect them to fail. Running double parity, and I keep a few drives sitting around waiting for it. But they're cheap and they work, even with shingled storage, it's fine for my needs.

[@marksterling8286]

Great video, help me explain to a friend that a hdd is not just a hdd. I picked a few years back ironwolf 8Tb to populate my ds1517+ I have it under my desk and it’s relatively cool and quite.

[@kwstasf]

I bought 3x 16TB Exos Hard Drives (284€ each) 345€ cheaper than i would need for 3x 16TB Ironwolf Pros (399€ each). I' m happy with that :-)

[@djsaekrakem3608]

The 4tb seagates from a few years ago have been very reliable for me. Most of the failures seem to be the high capacity 8tb and higher capacities.

[@babbjos]

I have had 3 4tb drives fail. Backblaze drove report show seagate the highest failure rates so I am thinking of switching.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

@@babbjos Backblaze also uses mainly Seagate only. That means they are more reliable than WD.

[@raiuno90]

Loved the video. My main reason for choosing EXOS over Ironwolf or Ironwolf Pro is the longer service life on the EXOS drives, 2.5mln vs the Ironwolf 1.2mln. All that on a drive that is typically 10%-15% cheaper. I have a total of 36 drives across 2 x Synology NAS systems and the EXOS outperforms the Ironwolf, Pro & WD Golds.

[@sidundead13]

how is the noise level for exo drives ?

[@raiuno90]

@@sidundead13 Its quiet enough for me as I have my NAS in the storage room. My Rackstation NAS makes a huge amount of fan noise so I wouldnt hear the drives anyway.

[@2ndAveScents]

What do you use them for if you don’t mind me asking?

[@tank1demon]

@@raiuno90 how's the noise compared to the old hgst nastars?

[@raiuno90]

@@2ndAveScents Media library, Photo & Video editing. The NAS is located in a storage room, so noise wise it's unnoticeable

[@billywilliam7747]

Thanks for the great clarity

[@Sard_Onyx]

I really like your tone and pacing. Subbed.

[@nascompares]

Cheers buddy. Appreciate the feedback

[@BuzzJones]

I wonder if I have a used HDD, I Bought 4 NEW Internal HDD Toshiba Hard Drives from OWC and 3 came in a Factory Sealed Anti Static Bag but 1 came in a Static Free Bag but did not come with the same factory Seal but with a small sticker that semi sealed the Bag ? Is that normal for brand new Drives sometimes ??

[@syaqsakma81]

I prefer using Exos in my pc. Not just because I have 3 hard disks but Exos is designed for heavy usage and more importantly because of the multi bay environment, it can deal with more vibrations than the normal single bay hard disk for PC. Kinda sad when 2 of my 3TB Barracuda went kaput on me so I bought the Exos and had been running fine for quite some time..

[@MNGermann]

All my WD red are dead… 2x drives each time. Now I’m running ironwolf (and barracuda only for backup)

[@toshimon6276]

Having worked on servers before there was such a thing as Enterprise hardware I will always use Enterprise level hard drives, the possibility of lost data is just not worth the cost savings. Nothing is guaranteed but remember it's not if the hard drive will fail but when.

[@chrisw7612]

which is a better idea to use for a usb 5 bay storage separate space thats for file back up.. i don'twant to go nas

[@dane4890]

Hard Seagate for years, top dollar!

[@vollhorst140]

My opinion on HDD OEMs WesternDigital: you can’t buy anything from es because wd is straight up lying or changing the specs and components of their drives without disclosing it. You get what wd has in the garbage bin at that point in time. And expensive. Seegate: cheap buy least reliable of the 3 oems Toshiba: somewhere in between the other two without the lying of WD. My actual go to brand.

[@MostlyBlindMitch]

One thing that made me hesitant to jump on the Exos bandwagon was the 4kn/512e thing, and how you shouldn't mix and match with with drivers that are 512 native, or so I read. Would love a video with clarification of what the terms mean, and how that affects the use case of the drives.

[@alexhollywood1579]

Man you are so awesome 🎉 thanks a lot

[@dsee1774]

How about Toshiba 12TB? Is the quality ok?

[@blake4311]

what do you recommened for my pc?

[@VincentGonzalezVeg]

I recently bought a barracuda 1tb Seagate SS Drive

[@kennethcampingdiary1976]

Dont know should i buy ironwolf pro or exos, exos sounds and look better to me lol I mainly use my NAS synology 220j for BT everyday

[@csxtrainman95]

Which drive would be used for a small media library to watch movies with Jellyfin and just hold my photos?

[@iamdjfidel]

Hello to you Sir and anyone else. I just need a HHD to free up my SSDs and reorganize. Which one should I get for use with my MacBook? I am interested in the ranges from 10-16TB. Thank you for your responses before I see and reply.

[@Chris-tf7gi]

Mate, the 5 Barracuda HDs are now 10 years old in the Synology 1511+ NAS I just replaced the power supply in. 10 years old? 10 years old. Running 24/7. 5 bay NAS. I'm running Exos in newer systems. Am I going to remove the Barracuda's from the 1511+? No. At this point they're redundant backups of backups. (I repaired the 1511+ because I just wanted to see if I could. Yes.) For fun, I'm not replacing Barracuda drives. If they ever go, I will let you know. It COULD be a while. My first Seagate drive, from the 90s', an ST-157a all 40 megabytes of it, still spun up and worked just fine when I tried it a couple years ago. A 30 year old Seagate drive works? Yes. Don't hold your breath waiting for my Barracudas to fail. CORRECT. The NAS power supply went before the Barracuda drives. . . that have not. They are still in active service after 10 years.

[@raiuno90]

Same. I put my older drives in the backup NAS which backs up the main NAS thats on RAID6. maximises the life of the older drives while still providing a useful service. My backup NAS averages drives that are 10 years old. As the drives fail. I replace with a drive from the main NAS after replacing it with a new EXOS drive first. My main NAS is 12 bays. I proactively replace 1 drive every 3 months so the RAID is refreshed completely every 3 years. Been running my drives like that for ~15 years.

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

i have a pair of 8TB Ironwolf PRO drives which are warm ad loud (not helium technology) I don't know weather I would be able to sell them off, I also have a Qnap enclosure for them that I use maybe once a month...

[@RyanPoehls]

I bought an 8TB Seagate and it must have been a mistake as it only have 150 Gb capacity on it. I verified the correct format and drive type and still 150 GB for what should be 8 TB. Returning it to Target.

[@paulw314]

It is actually quite shocking for us who have been building systems for decades. Seagate used to be the best hdd manufacturer without a shadow of a doubt. Around 2011 they nose dived and made some of the worst hard drives ever. At that time I went to WD who had actually made very poor drives but drastically improved. Seagate now make pretty good SSD's, I can't see the old Seagate quality in the hard drives ever comming back. They may have improved but they're never going to be what they were.

[@penguinjoe1961]

Seagate also sneaked in SMR drives too.

[@nascompares]

To be fair to them, they didn't *sneak* them, they released them, clearly he highlighting them as shingled drives. The big debate and (to a point) controversy that has risen in the past 2+ yrs around SMR is that another well known brand released NAS drives then years after, had to highlight they were SMR drives - a less NAS suitable drive, especially under constant use without time to restructure data internally vs CMR/PMR drives. As long as brands CLEARLY highlight which drives at launch/data sheets are SMR, it's mostly ok, as SMR drive so have their utility in certain setups

[@wlelandj]

Always enjoy your vids. Love my Exos X16 drives, 10 so far. Of course now I'm in a holding pattern due to the current Chia coin debacle.😏 Prices currently up 60%+😩

[@nascompares]

Don't even get me started mate... You see that PILE of equipment on the desk behind I. In videos over the last 4 weeks? That is an ongoing project halted over a SINGLE drive I need... One... One damned 14TB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rosadoric615]

@@nascompares Hello from Australia. Love your content. You certainly know your stuff. I recently had problems sourcing my Ironwolf's aswell. I was wondering when your big video was coming as you talked about it for a while now. Now we kow why. You only have yourself to blame as there was a rush on buying hdd's after your "Chia Mining on NAS" video. lol

[@latentdiscourse4357]

Love the video. I have a little home server and I really like the Seagate Exos drives. Do they have to be used in arrays? I never really turn the home server off so its not being cycled all the time, but I don't have enough for a RAID array. Just random hard drives I've picked up.

[@midnightwatchman1]

when I was the university I used to be in disk recovery and I always recommend Seagate. Then went to work for a corporate job where only had HP SANs and disks. after decades of working for them A left return to a world where everything has changed recently I had to build a SAN base on open source software and choose disks completely on the fact, I use to use Seagate disk as a student. I made a lucky guess

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Hi NASCompare friends. Is there a 'tape a pinout' method to make a Seagate work as an internal drive (for Seagate drives that only work as an internal drive)? Western Digital has that 3rd pin on the contacts of the power to enable some WD drives. God bless, Rev. 21:4

[@glasshalfempty1984]

the cutlery example is probably not the best example, as it's not that dramatic. You can put any hard drive in any system and it'll work...you'll run into problems potentially and in some cases more likely or sooner than later, but they will work more or less. In contrast, trying to eat steak with a spoon...not so much. :)

[@benjamintrathen6119]

Al Barracuda drives 2TB or over are SMR, only the 1TB is CMR in the Barracuda family. That's why I went Barracuda Pro for my HDD 4 years back, all of the Pro versions are CMR.

[@glasshalfempty1984]

20:12 6 Gbps is far more than any mechanical drive can even come close to even hoping to saturate. Even basic SATA SSDs that have about 500-600 MB/s read/write (ish) only just finally make use of the 6 Gbps SATA bus speeds. There's probably benefits beyond the simple extra 6 Gbps of bandwidth though.

[@JanaBuvari]

I've had two seagate Ironwolfs die less than a year old, one 14TB one 10TB

[@PlonskySauer]

Can I use an Exos as a single drive?

[@RobFisherUK]

Seriously considering these now after decades of WD use. Wasn't there also a scandal about the RPM speed of WD drives? I think I want 5200rpm for my fanless Linux PC I am using as a NAS in my lounge (I want quiet and cool; don't care about speed)

[@DuncSargent]

That was really helpful. Thanks!

[@bjtaudio]

The price is about the same for a Exos is slightly cheaper than the Ironwolf standard NAS drive now.

[@awolsam]

I only buy Seagate drives nowadays because: - Good website and RMA procedures, easy to find data sheets and check warranty - Good Linux support, Seagate provides even their graphical tools for Linux I mean those are basic things that maybe one takes for granted, but surprisingly some of Seagates competition have so bad websites it is hard to even figure out the full product range of drives they offer. And I don't consider a manufacturer actually supports Linux or Mac, if they expect you to install Windows to do something like upgrading firmware.

[@praetorxyn]

This is a good point, as I just had to contact WD about a drive failure out of warranty and they have a regular website that's bad and a support website that's bad, and they use different accounts. I was unaware Seagate had great Linux GUI support and the others didn't, so that's a good tip too.

[@youcef12400]

What is the best choice between exos and barracuda... I am building a home desktop pc ??????

[@raiuno90]

Barracuda

[@youcef12400]

@@raiuno90 Thank you.

[@gumy99]

Thank you for sharing, which HDDs would you recommend to go for in a NAS if mostly used as a photography storage accessed occasionally? I understand NAS is not a back up solution, but I would like to use it as raid 6 and actually have it as a main storage.

[@michaelbeaver4804]

Your Price Scale might be off, but it might just be USA import. 12TB iron wolf is around 500 American.

[@raiuno90]

He's UK based so maybe not comparable. US typically has more favourable pricing compared to UK/Europe

[@serjmaster87]

If i have an a 2 bay raid enclosure , I want to use it just for raid 1 to back up my video files once/twice a week do i still need the iron wolf or i can just buy the barracuda ? Great content , learned a lot from you, thanks.

[@damightyshabba439]

I know this is an old video - so the likelyhood of getting an answer is low. But.... I'll ask. I have a B450 Mobo - 5600X, 32GB DDR4, 2TB Nvme. I tried to attach a 12TB SSD - and.... nothing. I've tried lots of ways.... it just doesn't like it. Am I doing somethijng wrong? If I'm doing something daft and can fix it - i'll buy another few... but... i think i'm probably breaking the chipset barrier etc. Any advice?

[@NightOwlGames]

my seagate compute 8TB is annoying the hell outta me, its just a few months old, when i bought the drive i just Quick formatted 2 times as i read thats what you do with a new drive, i installed games from steam, it starts been funny, i power on my PC the Bios/intro screen automatically starts scanning and repairing this drive, everytime i reboot my pc it does this, drive does show in windows and appears to be working its accessable however thoughtout the day the desktop will give me a popup about this drive needing a repair also steam is refuseing to update games due to a currupt disk? its not dead its just been awkward, also having issues in games with loading. any ideas?

[@tedy2777]

i dont know if it's just bad luck but the ONLY hdd to fail on me twice were Seagate. Rest of the HD i use are currently WD. The recent one died a couple days ago literally a few months after the warranty ran out. Is seagate even worth buying still?

[@fredashay]

I know this video is 2 years old by now, but I hope you can answer a question... I want a large HDD that's at least 16 TB. But I don't want layering, or helium, or other gimmicks. What are my options?

[@thegorn]

Thanks guvna this is great info

[@ronstewtsaw]

Prices are pretty low on 12TB Ironwolf drives right now (October 2022). Cheaper than 10TB sometimes. Do you reckon that they are being discontinued? Should I jump now?

[@radioactive_radek]

I have one argument against EXOS - if we need something cheaper for home NAS and we don't need 16TB, but just 2-4TB, Ironwolf is better, because the smallest EXOS is 16TB, which is significantly more expensive than 4TB Ironwolf.

[@SebiKoerner]

Even though I will only run a 4-Bay nas with 4 drives, I'll still get Exos drives. Yes they're louder but the 14TB Versions I'm considering are substeantially cheaper. The NAS will really only be an archival system to store my RAW Video files.

[@melodycgeorge]

Can I use a Seagate Ironwolf drive as a single-use drive for now, and then add it to a NAS setup later?

[@Bashyman]

Is the Seagate EXOS X18 18TB compatible with the DS423+? Not on their list

[@yaqoobabdulrahim383]

Bro I bought Barracuda Seagate it will work on my laptop ???

[@josvanderspek1403]

Indeed great video, thanks! Now, since some years have gone by, would you still recommend the EXOs over the Pro? (I just bought my first NAS (Synology D220+), and intend to use it mainly for watching my video files and all other storage. It came with one slot filled with a 4 TB Seagate Ironwolf, and I'm looking to add a 16 TB one for the second slot, totalling 20 TB (which should last me years).)

[@joj6123]

BEWARE OF SEAGATE. they're customer service is horrible. god forbid something wrong happens to your hard drive and send it in for an RMA YOU WILL NOT GET IT BACK it's horrible i cant get in contact with anyone and im ready to call my bank and find out what i can do

[@TheMx5Channel]

Great video but i do have questions, i use a big drive in my pc and i back it up on a external disk. I want a disk that's reliable for years to come but i always find that those drives are the enterprise/nas drives. But they say those drives are not great for desktop applications due to error corrections since a server normaly does that in a larger array?

[@CptnKremmen]

I dropped WD for Seagate when it came to upgrading my NAS during this fiasco as I really couldn't be bothered to fight my way through WD's HDD specs; it waws far easier to use Seagate as they weren't obfuscating their HDD specs.

[@craigw4644]

I've owned 4 Seagate drives over the years:: All failed prematurely. Other WD drives I've owned got retired before they failed, even though they're retired, they still work. Seagate lost my patronage years ago.

[@robertcromwell9736]

Agreed have had several Seagate drives over the decades. All failed. WD only for me.

[@tank1demon]

do the exos run on full blast at all times, or do they power down/idle when not reading/writing, like consumer drives?

[@j7ndominica051]

What does it matter to the drive how many "bays" there are in total? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but you mean other simultaneously connected drives to a computer. Now Barracudas DM are SMR, and VX are still CMR. Until this happened, how could a drive be "geared" towards a certain performance? It's not that a VX is unable to read. I use them in my computers.

[@dheerajjadhav12]

Seagate IronWolf Pro 16 TB ST16000NE000 - 2RW103 . Synology says Hibernation feature is NOT recommended for this drive. What does that mean ?

[@jakobw135]

What do you think of CRUCIAL ssd's?

[@alexoelkers2292]

So I'm thinking about buying the Seagate 14TB HDD Exos to backup all my games/movies. Would that be a good pick? Yes I need that much space.

[@robertcromwell9736]

I have been working with and building PC since 80 or so. I have had more seagate drives fail than any other brand. I quit buying seagate drives around 2000. But wound up with one in an external drive and it too failed.. WD all the way for me.

[@2ndAveScents]

Out of all the brands of HDD’s I’ve owned over the years I only ever had two fail. One internal and one external and they were both Seagate. I’m thinking of setting up a small Raid NAS for me and my family to use and looking at Seagate again because of the price and benchmarks, but can anyone chime in on their personal experience with Ironwolf and/or Exos drives?

[@Aethalops]

Comprehensive and useful. If using the drive as Archive-only, rather than NAS application, is there any drawback to choosing the EXOS drives in 14+ TB sizes? Even a year later than your comments here, they remain the lowest price per TB.

[@esunisen3862]

For archiving Barracuda is enough.

[@KillaBitz]

Just got my first Seagate drive in years. It was a used 8tb Barracuda and it was d.o.a Back to WD i go.

[@przemyslawdanieljanus8832]

Hi what 2.5 inch deive would you recommend for NAS? Are there other altwrnatives to WD Red 1TB?

[@TexasBulldog74]

a year later i just bought a 16tb ironwolf pro for $309 on Amazon. Man the prices really dropped luckily.