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[@smartnothard2400]

First NAS vid I ever watched! Very informative and this is how the pros do it after all! I was only after a night wifi cam (some mofo keyed my car - good luck seeing anything with regular CCTV!!!!!) which are 30-150… then I thought hmmm ring….. then I saw reolink and nest… then I arrived to hikvision. Then darkfighter cams. The I got to NAS and synology. Then I started checking the bank. Then I factored the cost of repeating my keyed car…. Love life!!! True story.

[@sal8372]

Built a Blue Iris system on a used ebay desktop and a Synology 916+ for Plex and four 24/7 Dahua camera recording... works fine. Replaced all Ironwolves with Synology when one wolf died after 5 years. I do hear the drives chugging away.

[@ShinyTechThings]

Processors with Intel's Quick Sync help offload the video encoding on a NAS or if you build your own Blue Iris surveillance solution. Intel's quick sync also can be utilized by software such as Plex if you have a Plex pass using hardware and coding instead of raw CPU cores and this is why you can have a Celeron processor in a NAS with surprisingly good support for more than enough streams for most households running Plex.

[@qashraf8]

Always creating a video about something I'm about to pull the trigger on!

[@user-tl4fi6oy8d]

QVR Pro also now requires a RAID setup, so it forces you to double your spending on hard-drives.

[@ShinyTechThings]

🤔 So how would using RAID0 cost more for the same amount of storage?

[@polo123087]

Thanks, That was a very informative video and a ton of info I did not know. Thanks again.

[@SlavaTsarev]

excellent practical advice - thank you

[@tiwopli]

You can use it with Skyhawk HDDs to

[@aleksandertesenkov1421]

Great, informative video. It’s very useful for newbie but who want to do things right.

[@Andre820115]

Don’t like the idea that the camera licenses will expire! Hopefully this will be implemented on new QNAP’s or licenses being sold.

[@georgewashington3012]

Sounds like one is better off getting a NAS solution for general backups and then invest in a separate NVR with specialty HDDs.

[@jaysingum9358]

Hi love your videos. Need your help i got an Asuator NAS with 4 bay hard drive slot. Looking for wifi outdoor camara. Any suggestions? Also can i use 2 of the hd slots for camera grade hard drive?

[@UmairVatao]

I know cameras keep writing, will the Ssd cache help in preventing the hdd keep spinning? I m hoping ssd can take chunk of data and write periodically.

[@EuroPC4711]

How about using say ironwolf pro for regular use and skyhawk formtthe cameras?

[@andresvaldevit3692]

I don't understand this thing about camera licenses. What if I want to use Raspberry Pi cameras with an open source software? I mean are these linceses dedicated to certain camera brands?

[@ShinyTechThings]

You get some licenses usually with a NAS. Each license would cover a single RTSP/ONVIF stream. But depending on your needs Blue Iris is a affordable DIY solution and works with most cameras. NAS solutions for surveillance may or may not support a particular camera so check the HCL if using a NAS.

[@andresvaldevit3692]

@@ShinyTechThings Ok thanks but in my case, Raspberry Pi camera streams have any limitations with NASes in general? I have checked out a couple of IP cameras brands and most offer services behind hidden subscriptions. I'm not down with that.

[@ShinyTechThings]

@@andresvaldevit3692 regular Reolink cameras are nice and you don't have to pay any cloud fees and just store on your NAS and also local Micro SD cards. I'll be releasign some videos down the road on their 5MP and 4K 8MP and 12MP cameras. For teh price they are great. I also have a Hikvision 4K camera and the ReoLinks with 5MP look better to me but that's a whole other conversation. Try a 5MP ReoLink on sale they can be scored for around $40 and a Pi + a camera module and power supply plus case end up costing more. Also they offer audio recording built in. I will say the Argus they charge for like a Nest cam but their regular cameras don't. Also avoid the 4MP version of the cameras as they do NOT have a Micro SD card slot on them.

[@matth.imaging8952]

Regarding hard drives: can't you just install a separate drive in the NAS for NVR? So e.g. in a 4 bay NAS, install 3 WD Reds in RAID5 for your data and put a single WD Purple in the NAS for NVR (having its own storage pool)?

[@RicardoAum]

I can't find any info on that. I really want to know if that is the correct way to go.

[@michaelpearson9]

Yes I'm doing it im buying a 5 bay 4 standard drives raid 6 and 1 drive of a ssd and use the ssd for my camera's then thr camera's will have very fast write speeds then just back up to raid drives

[@michaelpearson9]

Can't u just add a SSD in the NAS and just use that drive for ur suvallance then have ur standard drives in raid 5 or 6 and just backup the ssd to the raid drives

[@doctorgadgetix4887]

Get "Smart" Cameras instead of a "Deep Learning" NVR/NAS?

[@chriswebster2015]

Good job with your wig. Very hard to tell. Great video too. I’ve gone the Reolinks.

[@ZafarU512]

Can I use NAS Hard drive in NVR instead of Surveillance HDD?

[@michaelpearson9]

Depending on how many camera's and how much write speeds the hard drives are cause u want very fast write speeds for camera's

[@dinocuyag7322]

thank u.

[@ajastoa6545]

Is there a point in going HDD and not SSD?

[@Ilost11]

One has a much better cost per terabyte with HDDs than SSDs. Consumer SSDs reach their best value at 2TB typically with some models reaching their best TB/$ value at 4TB. While 8TB models are exceedingly rare for consumer SSDs and sell for a premium. With HDDs one pays a fraction of what they pay for SSD storage and the sequential nature of the writing video data to the drive make HDDs more than fast enough for recording video data. As SSDs are significantly better in random read/writes, but that's not really applicable to live feed cameras. One can get two 18TB HDD write focused drives with some intelligent shopping for what it will cost me for one 8TB consumer SSD. At that rate it's 2 x 18 (36TB) TB HDD vs 1 x 8TB SSD.

[@alexanders.6080]

How did surveillance exist before these hard drives were released? This is marketing and nonsense. Do you think your hard drive isn't spinning while you are not writing on it? Writing consistent stream is probably the easiest your hard drive can do.

[@ventilate4267]

Any hard drive will work for any task, but there's a reason data centers don't run into Walmart and buy the cheapest desktop hard drives they can.