National Service: Minister does not rule out parents could be prosecuted if teens fail to attend

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22 күн бұрын

“In the same way that educational training to the age of 18 is compulsory, this will then be the next part of your personal journey.”
Foreign office minister Anne-Marie Trevelyan does not rule out the possibility that parents could be prosecuted if teenagers do not take up national service.
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@rodsimmons9337
@rodsimmons9337 21 күн бұрын
18 year olds are considered adults and independent of their parents... so how can the parents be held responsible ? Nonsensical.
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 21 күн бұрын
16 in Scots Law, why should Scots Parents face prosecution 2 years before English ones?
@Gambit771
@Gambit771 21 күн бұрын
​@@ScottishRoss27Because the Scottish government (that is soon to change) made it so. You natsis supporters already know this but keep following the failing natsis party tactics of blaming Westminster for things three snp created.
@bear1245
@bear1245 21 күн бұрын
@@ScottishRoss27you have more to worry about than that up there. With your back door sharia laws 😂
@Ukfairgrounds
@Ukfairgrounds 21 күн бұрын
@@ScottishRoss27Scott’s keep voting snp that’s why
@scaryfakevirus
@scaryfakevirus 21 күн бұрын
Exactly
@isabelstokes4042
@isabelstokes4042 21 күн бұрын
The Tories have just committed political suicide.
@maht0x
@maht0x 21 күн бұрын
it's on purpose so Starmer has to deal with the war
@Blonde_Somnambulist
@Blonde_Somnambulist 21 күн бұрын
Labour will implement conscription, which is worse. Leaked docs( see mp Andrew Bridgen) reveal our men not just 18 year olds, are being sent to Ukraine by the end of this year, early next year.
@despoticmusic
@despoticmusic 21 күн бұрын
There is nothing they can do to win. National Service is a gimmick that will go nowhere…
@reasontruthandlogic
@reasontruthandlogic 21 күн бұрын
They are already dead.
@lks6248
@lks6248 21 күн бұрын
No. They’ve been doing that slowly for years.
@mrpocock
@mrpocock 21 күн бұрын
So basically, it is unpaid, forced work for children of poor parents.
@proudpict2057
@proudpict2057 21 күн бұрын
You won’t see silver spoon kids there!
@reasontruthandlogic
@reasontruthandlogic 21 күн бұрын
Compulsory yet non mandatory. Classic doublespeak. Overtly meaningless but carries a hidden message. In this case “Vote Tory if you like war and general tub thumping".
@mrpocock
@mrpocock 21 күн бұрын
@@proudpict2057 I'm sure some will buy places in the army volunteers.
@victoriacharlesworth7099
@victoriacharlesworth7099 21 күн бұрын
Our future generations are facing a very unstable future and have enjoyed the freedoms the strong men of the past have won for them so would you not agree that in this era we have weaker men with no clue what is knocking at their door and should at least attend basic training to wake them up, strengthen them and discipline the gangs and offer future opportunities of trades within the forces? Think carefully about what you see in this country at street level. National service goes on in other countries and they are stronger.
@magicmoon2817
@magicmoon2817 21 күн бұрын
Forced cannon fodder!
@jackdawwww
@jackdawwww 21 күн бұрын
rich boys need to learn they must start fighting ther own wars
@CC-uq4hu
@CC-uq4hu 21 күн бұрын
Exactly. They want boots for meat grinder like Ukraine
@danielwhyatt3278
@danielwhyatt3278 19 күн бұрын
Well actually that’s the point. National service would apply to politicians children as well eventually.
@cnote2458
@cnote2458 14 күн бұрын
@@danielwhyatt3278yeah I bet they do exactly what the lower class kids do.
@mrcurlyrambo5009
@mrcurlyrambo5009 21 күн бұрын
This country is no longer ours so definitely not fighting for the shitehole
@prophetsnake
@prophetsnake 18 күн бұрын
Yeh, no longer a place where someone with their head so far up their own backside that they can see their own teeth is on top, eh?
@genevieveaniko6492
@genevieveaniko6492 21 күн бұрын
So... Hand over our children to the front line/meat grinder or go to prison??... Just sick.
@bernardedwards8461
@bernardedwards8461 19 күн бұрын
You cowardly youngsters would have OAPs man the army if you could, shame on you! I served 15 years in the infantry, so I've done my bit.
@genevieveaniko6492
@genevieveaniko6492 19 күн бұрын
@@bernardedwards8461 It's not our kids fault that you spent 15 years of your life fighting for a ruling class, that hates the people of this nation and has ruined the country. Not to mention all the dead innocent civilians in foreign nations who could not defend themselves. What have these wars accomplished anyway??... Who has benefited from all this death and destruction? We're not cowards.. We're just to smart to fall for the okey doke and send our kids to the front lines.. To die for what.. Exactly??
@cnote2458
@cnote2458 14 күн бұрын
@@bernardedwards8461was you forced to do so ?
@proudpict2057
@proudpict2057 21 күн бұрын
Politician’s kids first!
@kipp1231
@kipp1231 21 күн бұрын
Who do these politicians think they are? I will not comply my kids are going nowhere near the military and they aren't mopping up the streets for no pay either!
@theundernetwork-gaming4705
@theundernetwork-gaming4705 21 күн бұрын
And ur the reason they have to prosecute the parents LOL I hope ur one of the first examples
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
You've lost your mind.
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
​@@theundernetwork-gaming4705How can they be the first examples for something that ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN 😂 delusional freak.
@godemperorofmemekind4170
@godemperorofmemekind4170 21 күн бұрын
@@theundernetwork-gaming4705off to the front you go
@kipp1231
@kipp1231 21 күн бұрын
@@faithpearlgenied-a5517 how?
@hohum2722
@hohum2722 21 күн бұрын
It gives 18 year olds "the opportunity to volunteer" 18 year olds have that now.
@reasontruthandlogic
@reasontruthandlogic 21 күн бұрын
Not only 18 year olds. There are many organisations throughout the world which offer voluntary work from the age of 15 or so in areas such as agriculture, care, building or countryside restoration, and so on.
@S-North
@S-North 21 күн бұрын
In the British Army there is or was an unwritten rule among the ranks, "never volunteer" .
@charlesfaure1189
@charlesfaure1189 20 күн бұрын
Pure gaslighting.
@marionanderson7059
@marionanderson7059 19 күн бұрын
​@reasontruthandlogic They could volunteer anytime. No-one needs a compulsory national service system for that
@iamnooneno1
@iamnooneno1 21 күн бұрын
Banning them from smoking but expect them to defend you 😂😂😂😂
@stephenhurst8863
@stephenhurst8863 21 күн бұрын
Why not create proper well paid jobs?
@jamesmorss9940
@jamesmorss9940 21 күн бұрын
They just did, for them
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 21 күн бұрын
England has one of the worlds worst trade deficits in goods ie imports more it exports
@Stobb0
@Stobb0 21 күн бұрын
@@ScottishRoss27What it should do, then, is export more to its closest large neighbour(s) and in the circumstance that they are organised into a large trading bloc or, shall we say, a common market, then England should make every effort to join and be part of that. That’d just be common sense wouldn’t it…?
@kevinwake8789
@kevinwake8789 21 күн бұрын
​@@jamesmorss9940you don't know what VOLUNTEER means. Volunteers at charity shops for example, only get their bus fares paid.
@TS-jm7jm
@TS-jm7jm 21 күн бұрын
why should the government be responsible for job creation?
@lilacer6841
@lilacer6841 21 күн бұрын
My children will not join the army. End of
@61js
@61js 21 күн бұрын
What if they want to?
@iaf010
@iaf010 21 күн бұрын
Who is going to defend Ukraine ? Or fight in Iraq, Syria or whatever other corner of the world the boys in Westminister decide needs "saving" ?
@neelamacwan7670
@neelamacwan7670 21 күн бұрын
You want others children to protect your family. Shame on you
@Blonde_Somnambulist
@Blonde_Somnambulist 21 күн бұрын
​@@iaf010Neocons having a party knowing more kids are being sent to the meat grinder. Kerching !!
@AJ-il1lm8ph7z
@AJ-il1lm8ph7z 21 күн бұрын
​@neelamacwan7670 You can send your kids,every single one of them, whether they want to or not! Problem solved, Neelam!
@Brackets_truth
@Brackets_truth 21 күн бұрын
How is it volunteering if it's mandatory?
@adrianihringer5176
@adrianihringer5176 21 күн бұрын
Correct
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 21 күн бұрын
How is it volunteering with threat of prosecution?
@slimetimetv8517
@slimetimetv8517 21 күн бұрын
It's a contradiction isn't it.most 16 to 18 year old already have a job.
@slimetimetv8517
@slimetimetv8517 21 күн бұрын
Most 16 to 18 year old already have a job and are standing on their own two feet.are you going to take that job away from them to go and do unpaid work.what if they are living independently without parents.
@Brackets_truth
@Brackets_truth 21 күн бұрын
I was an apprentice at the age of 18, on a very small wage. I used to work an extra Saturday every week to make sure I had enough to pay my mother suitable rent, to make sure I could still feed myself and run a car to get to work. If you told me back then after working 6 days a week that I would also work a Sunday! I wouldn't have had the energy or dive to finish my apprenticeship. So I worry for those younger people already in employment or have a family that this will be a responsibility too far.
@mjrhitchin
@mjrhitchin 21 күн бұрын
How do you hold the parent to account for the actions of an 18 year old? 18 year olds are adults under the law! They arejust making this up as they go along.
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 21 күн бұрын
16 in Scots Law, Why should Scots Parents face prosecution 2 years before English ones?
@GavlarZ
@GavlarZ 21 күн бұрын
@@ScottishRoss27because you wanted your government
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 21 күн бұрын
@@GavlarZ How is England's Government going to prosecute Scots Parents as English law doesn't apply here?
@Stobb0
@Stobb0 21 күн бұрын
The tories making it up as they go along?! … no surely not!
@HorusHerotic
@HorusHerotic 21 күн бұрын
If it doesn't apply to you, why are you complaining? You sound like a bot. ​@@ScottishRoss27
@Mark-ef2ly
@Mark-ef2ly 21 күн бұрын
Somebody needs to tell them, they are our servants, not our lords and masters.
@nav8908
@nav8908 21 күн бұрын
I used to think the same but I realised they just changed the wording so we feel better about ourselves…the meaning regardless of title never changed hence why even before the last 13 years, they play with our lives and face 0 consequences in their own
@cheech7900
@cheech7900 21 күн бұрын
The Tory party are literal fascists, look at their record, weaken the courts, check, attempt to remove human rites, check, don’t like laws, change them, check. Provide an enemy for the people, check.
@odin741
@odin741 20 күн бұрын
Touchy subject for Wokers...
@charlotteknight7421
@charlotteknight7421 21 күн бұрын
Lock me up then I am not forcing my boys and my daughter to do it if they don't want to do sunak can bog off
@neelamacwan7670
@neelamacwan7670 21 күн бұрын
No you want other people's children to protect you and your family. Shame on you
@untissify
@untissify 21 күн бұрын
@@neelamacwan7670I bet you’re jabbed & wore a mask.
@julielawlor5482
@julielawlor5482 21 күн бұрын
Exactly you want everyone elses children to protect you and your children
@untissify
@untissify 21 күн бұрын
@@julielawlor5482 will your children be ‘volunteering’?
@rosita3528
@rosita3528 21 күн бұрын
​​@@julielawlor5482Why are you expecting anyone's children to protect you? Are you not an adult? I'm sure your children will be on the front lines protecting sunak and Blairs children though eh
@Jojohumf
@Jojohumf 21 күн бұрын
So basically the government will tell you what to do and if you don’t comply you’ll be imprisoned, this is what Rishi is saying and hope everyone understands this.
@Stobb0
@Stobb0 21 күн бұрын
Let me think about this for a moment… nobody shoots at me in prison, I get cheap accommodation and no food/heating bills, there are no tuition fees and the job prospects when I get out will probably be just as good as when I went in… …It might be a vote-winner among young people after all!
@sheilastewart5387
@sheilastewart5387 21 күн бұрын
Where are the prison placements for them anyway ? Planet zogg ?
@bernardedwards8461
@bernardedwards8461 19 күн бұрын
Nothing new in that.
@E_Rex_Sean
@E_Rex_Sean 21 күн бұрын
They’re trying to ban adults smoking and want kids on the battlefield. *PRIORITIES.*
@TheBT
@TheBT 21 күн бұрын
Hey that's not fair. They are trying to ban the people they want to send to the battlefield from smoking. 'Cause the smoking law they want to introduce would only impact the people who would have to do this national service stuff.
@bernardedwards8461
@bernardedwards8461 19 күн бұрын
@@TheBT Smoking is more dangerous than national service and kills or injures far more people.
@TheBT
@TheBT 19 күн бұрын
@@bernardedwards8461 I know, and weirdly I knew the gentlemen who was the brain child behind the smoking policy due to previous work. I tailored my argument to the person I was replying to.
@1sostatic
@1sostatic 21 күн бұрын
What a vote winner. hahahahaha ... Sunak is a Muppet
@officialmrhmusic
@officialmrhmusic 21 күн бұрын
Prosecute if he wants a revolution..
@funk_dust33
@funk_dust33 21 күн бұрын
We are about 50 years overdue for a revolution
@daviddenham1511
@daviddenham1511 21 күн бұрын
Sunak not parents needs prosecuting…….corrupt criminal
@minniebluebell6388
@minniebluebell6388 21 күн бұрын
I have absolutely no clue who this woman is and care even less what she thinks
@alivekicking6247
@alivekicking6247 21 күн бұрын
Conservatives lost my vote. I'm a parent. Yes, the world is a much more dangerous place. But you need to make young people WANT to join the military. When I was a boy, programmes on the Paras and the RM were inspirational. I'm not voting to send my kids to war or public service. I'm a former police officer. Knowing what that job did to my mental health, I wouldn't encourage my kids down that route either. Been a tory my while life. Not now.
@phild5322
@phild5322 21 күн бұрын
You were going to vote for them before this? Are you mad?
@medievelknevil8716
@medievelknevil8716 21 күн бұрын
Unreal you took this long to come to this conclusion
@edmurth
@edmurth 21 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t worry, this is just another fantasy idea just like their plan on increasing defence spending. A royal commission takes three to five years meaning this is purely red meat for the simple minded but it’s easy to announce utter fantasies when you know you’re not going to have to deliver them.
@alivekicking6247
@alivekicking6247 21 күн бұрын
@@medievelknevil8716 be careful you don't swing my vote back....
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 21 күн бұрын
The same armed forces they have shrunk by 20 Percent from 191 thousand in April 2010 to 152 thousand in April 2023, according to their own annual armed forces personnel statistics
@PiesNSuch
@PiesNSuch 21 күн бұрын
So you’re going to prosecute an adult (parent) because another adult (18 YO) doesn’t attend? Parental responsibility ended at 18. Rishi is such a bell
@slimetimetv8517
@slimetimetv8517 21 күн бұрын
You missed "end"
@feekygucker2678
@feekygucker2678 21 күн бұрын
What a ridiculous person. All the charisma and wit of a gravel yoghurt.
@pippipster6767
@pippipster6767 21 күн бұрын
Correction. A small gravel yoghurt.
@dinaworkman306
@dinaworkman306 21 күн бұрын
Nobody will fight fir their country because it isn't ours the boats have seen to that.
@user-co6qi2sl4g
@user-co6qi2sl4g 21 күн бұрын
You’re too kind😂
@cupidstunt5270
@cupidstunt5270 21 күн бұрын
So all those inner-city youths will be able to learn how to use their guns and knives properly, great idea.
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
That's not the issue here. The small minority of kids like that already DO know how to use their weapons ffs.
@WookiRahh
@WookiRahh 21 күн бұрын
tbh i think we should send the torys to do a whole year of training before people send their own kids
@frogandspanner
@frogandspanner 21 күн бұрын
Prosecuting an adult for the actions of another, independent adult. That seems reasonable ! Referred criminality should be rolled out more widely. Especially to Tories.
@TheVicar
@TheVicar 21 күн бұрын
The Tories wanted to move towards a dictatorship, but they were that incompetent, selfish and divided that they made a complete hash of it And this matter of prosecuting an adult for what an adult child has or hasn't done is indicative of their mindset They're not all quite as far gone as Liz Truss, but they're all on her path to insanity
@Kriss084
@Kriss084 21 күн бұрын
Disgraceful tory government.
@daviddoink872
@daviddoink872 21 күн бұрын
At this stage it has got me thinking that the Tories are worried that they will get too many seats.
@slimetimetv8517
@slimetimetv8517 21 күн бұрын
Is she saying 16 to 18 year olds will not be allowed to take a paid job.but instead be forced to accept unpaid eork called voluntary
@karmaascendant3936
@karmaascendant3936 21 күн бұрын
I could’ve sworn unpaid mandatory work with the threat of punishment is slavery
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
Called slavery.
@TheDaddy187
@TheDaddy187 21 күн бұрын
this woman who is now too old, but was female when she was 18, that would never have been sent to go die for her country, thinks this is a great idea...
@KevC1234
@KevC1234 21 күн бұрын
How can an adult be prosecuted for the actions of another adult, will never happen. But surely the billions being spent on this could be used to make the military a more attractive employer, better pay, conditions and equipment, maybe the young folk would then want to join.
@backgammonbacon
@backgammonbacon 21 күн бұрын
This MP doesn't have enough autonomy to think for her self she needs to go back to Tory HQ for it to think for her even for things as logically obvious as this.
@MrAltitude01
@MrAltitude01 21 күн бұрын
Get lost. There’s no way I’m gonna let my teens attend. Not helping warmongers ! Not gonna help this country at all
@Gileseypops
@Gileseypops 21 күн бұрын
Forcing 18 year olds to give up a weekend (alongside the already 5 days a week that they are working) to learn to become cannon fodder for rich people to send into wars. Nice one, Fishy Nutsak! A real vote-winner there.
@sofajockeyUK
@sofajockeyUK 21 күн бұрын
I'm expecting Ant and Dec to step out giggling. This is such a 'jumping the shark' policy it's jaw dropping.
@TheBT
@TheBT 21 күн бұрын
It's 24 hours to save the pound.
@williamthomson7820
@williamthomson7820 21 күн бұрын
Talk about dumb or dumber because that's what Rishi Sunak has done to himself, for every parent that can vote will vote for any political party, rather than his failing Tory party.
@Mikey-1878
@Mikey-1878 21 күн бұрын
Parent prosecuted for their legally adult children not doing something? At what age will the parents be stopped from being legally liable for their children be changed to?
@crazycatlady.
@crazycatlady. 19 күн бұрын
If they read this they will move this service to 17 years old! 😂
@seanlander9321
@seanlander9321 21 күн бұрын
Itchy Sack, the bloke who would get blisters from moving the office furniture around wants to look tough eh?
@delux976
@delux976 21 күн бұрын
How can you prosecute parents of an adult what BS. People need to break the law. My child refused to stay in education at 16 there was nothing they could do
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
Good. It was ridiculous them making 18 year old adults stay in school. What they're doing now is completely unhinged.
@mjc8281
@mjc8281 21 күн бұрын
As someone who is in my mid 50s and while I have grandchildren under 18 they luckily don't live in the UK. I really couldn't be more disgusted with this plan. As for parents being prosecuted, this genuine question are there any other circumstances parents can be prosecuted solely based on the actions of their offspring who are over 18? I would add when she talks about "when you talk to anyone that joined the military the found out something about themselves" .... She didn't speak to me.... I was in the RAF over 6 years... As someone who as gone on to fairly significant management roles, the one thing I learnt was from one specific officer pretty much how to not manage anyone, other than that honestly I think paying me to sit on a beach in Spain for 6 years would have taught me as much about myself and likely been cheaper.
@youtubetv1456
@youtubetv1456 21 күн бұрын
Hopefully the idiot just messed up again and will be gone in the next elections. I think he is oppressive.
@pippipster6767
@pippipster6767 21 күн бұрын
This is a hateful regime.
@iseeulysses
@iseeulysses 21 күн бұрын
All European countries will be under the same rules. The decisions are made higher up the Zionist pyramid. Have you heard of the Kalergi Plan? It's not a conspiracy it is happening right now and has been for decades.
@davidcald5975
@davidcald5975 21 күн бұрын
What planet did she beam down from 😂😂😂 she has lost her marbles 😂😂😂😂
@user-hk8ix3nj4s
@user-hk8ix3nj4s 21 күн бұрын
I cannot believe what this woman is saying how is she allowed a platform, far far right, far far gone
@1DY.
@1DY. 21 күн бұрын
I've served 14 years (so far) and find this just absolutely ridiculous. For a lot of the roles in the armed forces (other than cannon fodder) it takes a lot of training to be capable of the job. Often over a year's worth of training. That's why there is a return to service minimum contract period. To actually be good at your job can take years of experience on top of that. How can it possibly make sense to flood the military with incapable, inexperienced 18 year olds who likely have no desire to be there or commit to the best interests of the military. This will only burden an already stretched thin military and will be nothing but counter productive. Tory political suicide. Absolute idiots.
@SKillhandlemyhandle
@SKillhandlemyhandle 20 күн бұрын
Same with volunteering in the NHS. You need all kinds of health and safety training, confidentiality and data protection, DBS checks, you can't even mop a floor without specific domestic infection control training. These young people will be a hazard, hanging about like spare parts, they'll need babysitting by staff who are already pushed to their limits.
@ragingmonk6080
@ragingmonk6080 21 күн бұрын
She acts like this is providing opportunities when those opportunities already exist. op·por·tu·ni·ty: a set of circumstances that makes it possible to do something. She thinks forcing is an "opportunity. She should learn the English language.
@samuelgarrod8327
@samuelgarrod8327 21 күн бұрын
And you should learn how to use speech marks.
@HorusHerotic
@HorusHerotic 21 күн бұрын
She's a trained unthinking robot like the rest.
@Chazza-01
@Chazza-01 21 күн бұрын
​​@@samuelgarrod8327oh no, they missed 1 speech mark. It couldn't possibly be a typo and must be that they don't know how they work 😟
@tomjones1506
@tomjones1506 21 күн бұрын
​​@@samuelgarrod8327you understood the comment though didn't you? Lol
@ragingmonk6080
@ragingmonk6080 21 күн бұрын
@@samuelgarrod8327 "And you should learn how to use speech marks." I apologize for a typo and they are not "speech marks" they are called "quotation marks". So as you can see I know what they are how to use them.
@pyro398
@pyro398 21 күн бұрын
Send the jailed criminals out to the front line..
@ivancho5854
@ivancho5854 21 күн бұрын
Hang on, so that will be the parents of children who refused? 🤦‍♂️
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
If they're jailed, they're literally serving the term they've been given by the law in this country for the crime. Get a grip.
@Marx-uy9ji
@Marx-uy9ji 21 күн бұрын
Go in hands up and change sides. Either fund the army or don't!
@peterdollins3610
@peterdollins3610 21 күн бұрын
At 82 I was overjoyed to miss Conscription in the 60's as my many friends, acquaintances and hundreds of workmates on the railways where I was a fireman. With one exception but against him two young men I knew had gone on the Lam to avoid conscription. The US military said a year or more ago the UK Armed forces are no longer a serious force. So that was under the Tories. Labour put 2.5% into our armed forces the Tories 2% or less. This is what the Tories are trying to cover up.
@Joe-og6br
@Joe-og6br 21 күн бұрын
The army went from 113k in 2010 to now 72k We've only got a purely defence force now. No way we can "project" power abroad like we did in Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq. Those all had roughly 40k from the army. Remembering at the time we also had 20k based in Germany.
@slimetimetv8517
@slimetimetv8517 21 күн бұрын
18 year old are possibly already working their way through university. Why would they give up paid work to be forced to do unpaid voluntary work.how does that pay their accommodation and bills .
@Blonde_Somnambulist
@Blonde_Somnambulist 21 күн бұрын
War is a racket. Let the elite fight their own battles. My sons wont be fighting .
@CC-uq4hu
@CC-uq4hu 21 күн бұрын
I’ve forbidden mine too…let the rf and the elites fight their own battles. Our family defended the king in past bloody battles war of the roses and more…it’s stops here.
@stevebailey5591
@stevebailey5591 21 күн бұрын
Community service is a criminal sanction that sits just below a prison sentence in terms of gravity.
@PreciousWexford
@PreciousWexford 21 күн бұрын
Disgusting idea
@iraceruk
@iraceruk 21 күн бұрын
4:09 Er, no. I bet the VAST majority of young adults hearing about this proposal will be absolutely terrified! Who in their right mind wouldn't be terrified of their kids being sent to war!
@slimetimetv8517
@slimetimetv8517 21 күн бұрын
Let him send his own kids first.
@dannypugh6285
@dannypugh6285 21 күн бұрын
Well rishi has successfully increased the number of people who are voting this election most 18 year olds don't want this a great way to get them voting.
@jamieduff1981
@jamieduff1981 21 күн бұрын
Tell you what - you can force my daughters into the armed forces after every Eton attendee and Tory party member has already signed up.
@Gileseypops
@Gileseypops 21 күн бұрын
The Eton and Tory lot would be signed up as officers though...
@jamieduff1981
@jamieduff1981 21 күн бұрын
@@Gileseypops Perhaps, but they'd need to be signed up for (much) longer - the RAF Initial Officer Training prior to learning any actual service branch is the shortest at 24 weeks at RAF Cranwell. The Royal Navy is similar, but 30 weeks at BRNC Dartmouth. The Army is 44 weeks at RMA Sandhurst. None of the services has the training capacity to put people through Officer training just for fun only for them to complete their 52 week compulsary duration and just leave. Without any officer *branch* training they'd only be basic soldiers with nicer hats anyhow.
@Dee78584
@Dee78584 21 күн бұрын
They'll get volunteer roles at state homes and museums whilst everyone else is litter picking or cleaning police cars.
@63sgjunior
@63sgjunior 21 күн бұрын
Our politicians are idiots!
@YoungTowser
@YoungTowser 21 күн бұрын
Surely a more pressing question would be considering that somebody reaching 18 has been through possibly 15years of education, why is the reactionary last ditch attempt necessary to knock/shock them into shape? It has an air of "well that clearly hasn't worked..." to it, which casts a far more concerning shadow over what's been than what's to come. Or is it because "they just didn't listen..."?
@bordersw1239
@bordersw1239 21 күн бұрын
Parental responsibility ends when the child is 18 (Children’s Act 1989). Presumably those 18 year olds will be able to defer if they go straight to University, will then leave with debt and then have to do their National Service. They literally wrote this policy on the back of an envelope.
@slimetimetv8517
@slimetimetv8517 21 күн бұрын
Think they meaning no university untill you do your service .sounds like they are guiding them through their life with their arm up their backs.doesnt sound like voluntry
@rosemarielee7775
@rosemarielee7775 21 күн бұрын
The armed forces have already said they cannot train or cope with national service.
@jazzyj4126
@jazzyj4126 21 күн бұрын
He wants to loose so badly
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
He really does.
@NeilHughes-ti6pz
@NeilHughes-ti6pz 21 күн бұрын
Coming from a bloke who didn't know that He was at a Party. 😂
@peterprice6035
@peterprice6035 21 күн бұрын
Admiral Alan West, former chief of the naval staff: "this idea is basically bonkers ..." Richard Dannatt, former chief of the general staff, "[the proposal is] electoral opportunism” Michael Portillo: “The way in which this policy has been produced worries me very much indeed. That is to say, I very much doubt whether it’s been thought through, and I doubt whether the armed services and all the charities that need to be involved have been consulted and are on board."
@stuffmcstuff399
@stuffmcstuff399 21 күн бұрын
I like how Rishi said it will look good on your UCAS application that you have done it. Well, if it is law, then all teens will be applying having done it. Therefore it is not a special addition to give a student an edge. Just an extra step to get admitted into University. National service, however, is just political self deletion. The Falklands were proof enough that a Professional Army is greater than a conscripted one.
@HMSindistinguishable
@HMSindistinguishable 21 күн бұрын
The number of 'Uh's and 'um's speaks volumes
@KarlBraveman
@KarlBraveman 21 күн бұрын
All feels rather desperate doesnt it... the Tories are clearly out of road. Time for a change. Not sure Starmer's Labour Party represents that change but its a start.
@klaus1085
@klaus1085 21 күн бұрын
Labour is a fast forward!
@iseeulysses
@iseeulysses 21 күн бұрын
Labour want national service also. These are orders from above not the ideas of our white collar workers. Labour's only argument was with regards to where the money was coming from. Bear in mind that the military industrial complex is receiving funding for billions by the monsters that make money from selling the bombs and other weaponry that kills innocent people, with the bonus of stealing natural resources (Rishi s father-in-law has recently received several contracts for the oil and gas that rightly belongs to Gaza - why wouldn't Rishi support Israel?). Starmer knows money is not an issue - it's an opportunity to make money!
@Antient.Briton
@Antient.Briton 21 күн бұрын
All branches of the armed forces are extremely technical today. No conscript could or would learn his job in one year, or even two. Of course, if you only want cannon fodder... (RAF 1963-1987)
@CC-uq4hu
@CC-uq4hu 21 күн бұрын
Exactly! This is a grab for cannon fodder like in Ukraine. Sounds like it’s going to be on home soil too by the look of London Ireland and Sweden and Holland ect….it’s brewing here in Australia as well. Lots of knives swords and machetes being regularly used
@shadowside8433
@shadowside8433 21 күн бұрын
My home-town MP. Lets hope she gets the boot soon enough.
@Stobb0
@Stobb0 21 күн бұрын
Your country needs you 🫵 (to vote her out)
@bhangrafan4480
@bhangrafan4480 21 күн бұрын
If it starts at 18 years old, then the 'draftees' are legally adults and it does not seem a reasonable law for parliament to pass.
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 21 күн бұрын
Scotland, Wales and N Ireland Government's should get a veto on England's national service law.
@hendrixinfinity3992
@hendrixinfinity3992 21 күн бұрын
Good thing its not happening then
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
I know yeah 😂
@GG-wh1gt
@GG-wh1gt 21 күн бұрын
We're in UK from 14 years, I am OK with my EU settlement but was always planning to apply for my sons british passport when he is 16. Oh well not anymore..
@vincentvangogh8092
@vincentvangogh8092 21 күн бұрын
if you have a bro or sis or son or daughter of that age wouldnt you vote for anyone but tory to block this madness ?
@tomas-jj3gm
@tomas-jj3gm 21 күн бұрын
Money money greed has no bounds
@williampringle2307
@williampringle2307 21 күн бұрын
Freedoms we take from granted? Compulsory conscription for your "freedom" , our incredible communities,our incredible country !!!! God these people are so out of touch with how people are feeling.
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 21 күн бұрын
Not a Country
@geraintgriffiths2375
@geraintgriffiths2375 21 күн бұрын
Both parties don't know how to read the room anymore😅
@ivancho5854
@ivancho5854 21 күн бұрын
Reform? They only seem half mad. 😐
@cardiffb7914
@cardiffb7914 21 күн бұрын
I feel like I’m a war with our own government let alone a foreign one?
@slimetimetv8517
@slimetimetv8517 21 күн бұрын
So is she saying no university untill 19 year old now
@AnonYmouS00816
@AnonYmouS00816 21 күн бұрын
Probably later than that too. It takes 2 years to get a levels so more like no university till 21
@slimetimetv8517
@slimetimetv8517 21 күн бұрын
@@AnonYmouS00816 yes that's some delay before they can get on their chosen path .what if they have dreams to be a doctor .how old will they be before that will come to fruition
@Marx-uy9ji
@Marx-uy9ji 21 күн бұрын
Can't you see the pattern? Major upheaval is about to come in the coming years. It will make that mortgage and that car on tick seem FUTILE. Which it is. Actually.
@richardbradley1532
@richardbradley1532 21 күн бұрын
Someone define 'volunteer' for me again?
@hugoedelarosa
@hugoedelarosa 21 күн бұрын
more like voluntold
@suzann2531
@suzann2531 21 күн бұрын
Will politicians 18 year old get office jobs so they don’t ever have to fight on the front line.
@vincentvangogh8092
@vincentvangogh8092 21 күн бұрын
i dont see how a party with just 100 mps will be able to do this lol
@glitterfairyism
@glitterfairyism 21 күн бұрын
What about the veterans in our streets with no support?
@Aco747lyte
@Aco747lyte 21 күн бұрын
The medical examination that includes physical and mental fitness is gruelling, so if conscripts don't pass, then the military won't have them. Generally and I know this from dealing with them, a great many young people are just not fit enough to join the military, compulsory joining or otherwise. I doubt the Conservatives ever even considered that.
@SKillhandlemyhandle
@SKillhandlemyhandle 20 күн бұрын
And the NHS don't let anybody onto the wards without weeks of training and induction, DBS checks, supervision by already overworked staff etc There's literally nothing untrained 18 yr olds could do of any use at the weekend as only inpatient facilities are open and without all of the above the only thing you're qualified to do is make coffee.
@JohnTrace-sy2rc
@JohnTrace-sy2rc 21 күн бұрын
Glory to Jesus, honour to our holy mother Mary!!! Jesus paid my rent and loans last night. I was due to sending paperwork to the landlord about the rent. I opened my mail and saw it was a payment of 95,000.00. Thank you Jesus!!!!
@Hillarywhite-ey3zu
@Hillarywhite-ey3zu 21 күн бұрын
Oh wow 😲 that's huge. How do you get that much in that period?
@LiamCarl-wi5gz
@LiamCarl-wi5gz 21 күн бұрын
God is more than enough for us, and his mercy is new every morning. Hallelujah🎉🎉🎈🎈
@Silvermaryv
@Silvermaryv 21 күн бұрын
I thank God for bringing Mrs Elizabeth Marie Hawley brokage service into my life, I'm happy for God's grace have found me...Amen.
@Markscoott.
@Markscoott. 21 күн бұрын
YES!! That's exactly her name (Elizabeth Marie Hawley) so many people have recommended highly about her and am just starting with her 😊 from Ottawa Canada 🇨🇦
@BradPitt-sf2qb
@BradPitt-sf2qb 21 күн бұрын
Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Elizabeth Marie Hawley.
@Jojohumf
@Jojohumf 21 күн бұрын
So they should volunteer for the compulsory service, got it
@Brackets_truth
@Brackets_truth 21 күн бұрын
I was an apprentice at the age of 18, on a very small wage. I used to work an extra Saturday every week to make sure I had enough to pay my mother suitable rent, to make sure I could still feed myself and run a car to get to work. If you told me back then after working 6 days a week that I would also work a Sunday! I wouldn't have had the energy or dive to finish my apprenticeship. So I worry for those younger people already in employment or have a family that this will be a responsibility too far.
@onedaywewill
@onedaywewill 21 күн бұрын
All those who support it, must also volunteer
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
This. It's amazing how everyone who like the idea is everyone it won't affect 😂 they're so pathetic. Hold a poll, names and addresses supplied, everyone who thinks it's a good idea, sign them up.
@jackdawwww
@jackdawwww 21 күн бұрын
wint happen he will be voted out even his own party are resigning and jumped ship
@southerncomfortuk
@southerncomfortuk 21 күн бұрын
The primary purpose of the armed forces is to train servicemen to operate weapons with the ultimate aim of killing people. In the event of a foreign war (e.g. Iraq / Afghanistan / Bosnia), young people signing up to what’s essentially being sold as a year’s well-being and fitness scheme, should be aware that once trained and with their year of service completed, they may the first be invited to serve alongside professional servicemen in a future war. The decision to sign up should not be taken lightly, even if the only alternative is doing something that appears less exciting in the local community.
@raybrouitt2918
@raybrouitt2918 21 күн бұрын
A re-run of an unworkable policy, not dissimilar to Rwanda, and Leveling up.
@jablot5054
@jablot5054 21 күн бұрын
So what Tory has a vested interest in the company who would be contracted to run this. Another easy £60 million to be made and of course their children would be exempt.
@cooldad7297
@cooldad7297 21 күн бұрын
And the circus rolls on….
@howhistory5877
@howhistory5877 21 күн бұрын
Everyone should stay in and not vote for ANYONE - Then what happens. People should realise by now that NON of them give a stuff about you or the country.
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
Don't be silly. That won't happen so you might as well at least use your vote to get them out. Otherwise you'd better not complain about what the next government does.
@jamessunderland7435
@jamessunderland7435 21 күн бұрын
​@@faithpearlgenied-a5517I will continue to complain because people need to wake up and realise your vote has no actual power, you're basically signing a permission slip for future treason.
@Marx-uy9ji
@Marx-uy9ji 21 күн бұрын
​@faithpearlgenied-a5517 Free to complain as much as one likes. Who are to tell people who don't vote that they aren't allowed to complain? Where does it say that in the rule book? 😂 Spoil your ballot with a message. Tell them what you REALLY think.
@almascollections9531
@almascollections9531 21 күн бұрын
This is insane. We don't need to go to war. We need to have more engineers and doctors to progress the UK
@tariqahmed2214
@tariqahmed2214 21 күн бұрын
Your Children first Sunak or have they got green cards
@kylereese4822
@kylereese4822 21 күн бұрын
Sunak is a registered US citizen so as soon as he out he`ll be gone with millions they`ve stolen...
@allenomalley4014
@allenomalley4014 21 күн бұрын
I was in the army during the 80s training usually to defend against the Warsaw Pact No mention of conscription Tories get your coat and do one. In fact Sir Keir you do one too WEF drones
@kirstymctear5030
@kirstymctear5030 20 күн бұрын
This is a totally brilliant policy. It is the motivation for every young person who is eligible to vote, to go out and vote tactically to get rid of this useless government.
@EZEKIELAIA
@EZEKIELAIA 21 күн бұрын
THE FINAL NAIL IN THE TORY COFFIN!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@nicklove3047
@nicklove3047 21 күн бұрын
Not a brit here but this will not work out , second i believe in rewards especially for those volunteer rather than meting out punishment against people
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's never going to happen. The tories are over.
@baileygregory9192
@baileygregory9192 21 күн бұрын
I dont know a single person who supports it including young adults (18-21)
@thesurrealtaco8097
@thesurrealtaco8097 21 күн бұрын
So as a person unable to serve in military due to disability I am forced to volunteer without compensation. Seems discriminatory to only pay military service.
@roising.3221
@roising.3221 17 күн бұрын
It's digusting because 18 year olds are already given a lower minimum wage. How are they supposed to afford to move away from abusive parents, raise children, etc?.... And as an Irish person from Belfast the British army isn't popular...
@labt8194
@labt8194 21 күн бұрын
Why is this getting so much attention? It obviously won't happen because they have obviously already lost
@geraintgriffiths2375
@geraintgriffiths2375 21 күн бұрын
Wait til labour backs it
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 күн бұрын
​@@geraintgriffiths2375that won't happen though 😂
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