Why Piracy Will Never Stop

[@nationsquid]

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[@windowsnt63official]

How did you comment 6 hours ago?

[@SovietskijSoyuzFB]

@@windowsnt63official Private video maybe?

[@arielchandia2]

nah

[@Kropirzeczy]

Fuck opera

[@yiev]

Opera has so many glitches it's almost unusable

[@Dovahkiin27]

Anti-piracy ad: "Did you know it's illegal to download copyrighted content off the internet for free?" Everyone: "You can download copyrighted content off the internet for free?!"

[@worldquestioneer1533]

You have to pay for the copyrighted content. The rights holder has to make money. The whole idea of copyright is financial protection for the rights holder. If it doesn’t harm the copyright holder financially, it CANNOT be considered copyright infringement.

[@kgauheloletsholo5083]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Jared_Wignall]

I’m for Physical Media, but if a company won’t release a particular film or show I enjoy on Blu-Ray or 4K Blu-Ray, I won’t feel bad about pirating it.

[@soniablanche5672]

create a physical version yourself by pirating then storing it on a disc or hard drive lol

[@lissybug0176]

yep, I do the same thing. I tried buying a show on Blue-Ray and the only copies turned out to be in its original language and not English, so pirating is the only way for me to get an English copy. I'm trying to make my own personal Netflix at home with stuff I'll actually watch.

[@samuel-wankenobi]

This is me

[@mr.mysterious7940]

like the show "Yes, Dear" comes to mind.

[@NightmareRex6]

best can do now is buy one-time write USBs and put pirated content on those?

[@SovietskijSoyuzFB]

As a southamerican, I can tell most of the common people can't afford 60 or 120 dollars to buy legit software.

[@LeshaTheBeginner]

As a Ukrainian, it's 1/5 off our monthly payment

[@monstertov4927]

i cant afford a ferrari make them cheaper too

[@LeshaTheBeginner]

@@monstertov4927 Can you pirate it so they would fight back by lowering the price?

[@tilsgee]

​@@monstertov4927yeah cause you live in Monaco. No wonder. For south American country and in other developing countries, a 60 USD can cost 2x as expensive as rent housing itself.

[@mohamedkoblawi4175]

​@@monstertov4927what a stupid statement

[@StephenMcGregor1986]

Theft removes the original item, piracy makes a copy.

[@pythontest512]

I will never understand how people can call digital piracy "theft". It makes no sense. Nothing was lost in the process except time because i downloaded another movie with modern day BS in it. People might not agree with piracy which is fine, but calling it theft is BS.

[@Kiiro_Space]

​@@pythontest512 Stealing by means of copying it, therefore stealing profits. The money that belonged to the recording studios, movie production, and game devs, now belongs to the Pirate. It's the concept in a nutshell.

[@pythontest512]

@@Kiiro_Space Considering i would never have bought it, there is no loss here so your point is moot. In fact, should i like the thing i pirated and used, there is a much higher chance i might buy the product. Most of the games i ever pirated and liked, i bought. So piracy was good for certain companies as i bought their product after pirating it. Companies can only assume loss of profit if it is assumed that the pirate would have bought the product if piracy was not possible. In most cases, this is a false assumption. Most pirates would not have paid for the product so there is no loss in profits and thus, no theft.

[@morphor]

​@@Kiiro_Spaceyeah money as a concept shouldn't exist I'm a anticapitalist

[@jonc4403]

@@Kiiro_Space You're not stealing shit. That money was never theirs. Copying is not stealing.

[@plcerider6502]

Rar: "Trial ended. Pay us now!" Users: "No" Rar: "Understandable. Have a great day"

[@RyebuckCoppercap]

I love that Rar does that! Apparently it has to do with making the home user be able to use it freely with just a minor inconvenience, thus making it quite a common program, so the business users have to pay for the license if they want to use it in their workflow without legal trouble :3

[@uooooooooh]

@@RyebuckCoppercapIt's still proprietary nagware and you should be using 7zip instead.

[@vylbird8014]

If the RAR software were more restrictive, it probably wouldn't have achieved the success it did.

[@anapple6912]

winrar?

[@vylbird8014]

@@anapple6912 It's still famous for the 'endless trial' but there was a solid reason for it. Compression software is of greatly reduced utility if other people don't have it. You can store your own backups, but you can't really use it to send file bundles to other people if you have to then ask them to pay for the software to extract the archive. Winrar's solution was to make technically-unlicenced use of the software ridiculously easy. That way everyone and their dog can install and use it, mass adoption achieved, and if even only a very small fraction of those users pay up that's still a lot of revenue.

[@Skelig]

"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable." - Gabe Newell

[@imark7777777]

I've been saying for many years now that when you make something hard to obtain you create a black market. A market that Springs up to serve the demand. This often comes along with better prices and better competition.

[@CreatorofSecks]

I was about to comment this quote myself. It's probably one of the main reasons why steam is so popular.

[@JamesTDG]

Don't forget the classic "We won't let you use this product because it is not supported by this device" craze that Apple just LOVES to have.

[@imark7777777]

​@@JamesTDGI hate when I reply to one comment and then another comment I reply to I could almost Word for Word copy my comment over..... I have a 10.6 system where I can no longer communicate with the App Store but I also have apps on the App Store that won't run on newer computers. I've backed them up over the years but occasionally when I unzip them they won't reactivate because they can't communicate over TLS/SSL to Apple to verify account validity and Apple won't patch the SSL/TLS. Yeah I'm getting unhappy with Apple over the last 10 years things have changed. I've even put a down payment on a framework. The user interface in Mac OS X is getting iOS-ifed to the point where system preferences now settings is a pain to find anything in because it's layered and not well laid out. Do you think one settings in one spot but then you think no way this is set up for a phone so it's gonna be three layers deep underneath some thing that makes no sense. I had an encounter where I was redoing a system which had no operating system and I couldn't boot one so I loaded the recovery system and couldn't reinstall because the clock wasn't set. but it didn't say the clock wasn't set it just gave a cryptic error and of course in the recovery environment it's not that easy to set the clock. It was hanging on a TLS certificate handshake with Apple to download the recovery.

[@imark7777777]

@@CreatorofSecksyep steam is what Netflix was 10-15 years ago. Is it great and functional all the time no is it consistent and works reasonably well yes. I even purchased a game this year, from not having a Steam installed a year ago.

[@bigboiproductions]

remember kids pirating adobe products is always morally correct

[@D.S69]

yes

[@SlaaneshiCacophony]

Along with Nintendo

[@yannick7230]

​@@SlaaneshiCacophonywhy Nintendo? They make good games.

[@Traveler019]

​@@yannick7230 then in that sense abode also make good softwares thats why people use instead of open source free versiond of other saftware

[@SlaaneshiCacophony]

@@yannick7230 Nintendo have literally sued a man who distributed their games into giving him part of his paycheck for the rest of his mortal days. And this is after he already got a prison sentence

[@FeralChocobo]

Piracy is about ease of availability. In the early 2010's piracy dropped dramatically with services like Steam and Netflix. Why did it drop? Because it was easy to buy with Steam and easy to find what you wanted with Netflix. What's changed? Well now there are 6 million streaming services and every company and their dogs have launchers/storefronts and everything now is so fractured and disjointed. So over the last few years, piracy has risen once again. Add to this, the addition of performance-killing DRM such as Denuvo, pirated versions often end up with superior versions.

[@Doktario_Mystario]

in the case of video games, they are also easier to mod and play mods on

[@dialupdude]

You don’t own what you buy on steam. They could take it away tomorrow without notice or reason. When you pirate something, you know for sure you can keep it for as long as you like.

[@celestialsylveon6453]

@@dialupdude There's actually a ton of Steam games that launch without Steam being open, I've tested this because I have a low ram machine. It's up to the developer to decide whether they want Steam to be present or not.

[@dialupdude]

@@celestialsylveon6453 No way to know that without paying for the game first though. Another gripe I have with steam is that it essentially killed used games. I purchased a Portal 2 DVD from a thrift store only to find out that steam doesn’t support installing from discs anymore.

[@JamesTDG]

Pirates are actually cracking Denuvo DRM in a matter of a couple of weeks, possibly even less, so it gets pointless to keep the DRM in the game in the first place, as it just ends up harming the honest consumer rather than the pirate

[@stackflow343]

Still amazes me that to this day, there are people who truly believe the legal/criminalizing push against piracy is why it declined throughout the years, and not because services innovated to adapt to a clear user need. Even in spite of watching these services nosedive in quality and service, re-surging another wave of piracy. Piracy is a service problem not a user problem.

[@Helpertf2]

-GabeN

[@soverysleepy]

the anti piracy ads was an advert to those who didnt know they could get free stuff thats why piracy went up streisand effect

[@eges72]

We also have enough food stock to eliminate hunger, shelter to eliminate homelessness, and services to eliminate preventable diseases, teach math, science, literature and critical thinking. So... is the system of Capitalism, that creates artificial scarcities for profits, the problem here? Nah it's the lizzpeople obv.

[@ragalthor]

If purchasing a game doesn't gives me ownership, then pirating it shouldn't be considered stealing.

[@nothinbutarchives]

Purchasing a game is called "Legal Ownership". Typically grants you legal ownership of the game's license, allowing you to play it on the platform for which it was purchased. Because if you wanted " full rights" to your game purchase. You would be managing any updates, patches, or technical issues. Which I doubt that you do.

[@ragalthor]

@@nothinbutarchives technical issues yes, sometimes mods but updates, not.

[@Zuxtron]

I'm not totally anti-piracy, but that argument doesn't really hold water logically or legally, even if it's a fun saying. It's like if you say that since buying a ticket to a theme park doesn't give you ownership of the land, sneaking into the park without paying is okay.

[@nothinbutarchives]

@@ragalthor Technical issues of what? Changing settings in the game menu? Mods but not updates? Lol Again, This is why you have "Legal ownership" because you're not part of the development of the game.

[@knection1986]

​@Zuxtron but everybody is in agreement that a ticket to a park is a one time use contract. No normal person is in agreement that their digital license should be revocable.

[@expithesocfurry4099]

"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates." - Gabe Newell

[@rhael42]

ironic, considering steam itself is glorified drm

[@denelson83]

Another invocation of the famous Aesop fable of the North Wind and the Sun.

[@uooooooooh]

@@rhael42How's it ironic? It's DRM, but it's very clearly not just DRM.

[@danieltucker9330]

@@uooooooooh And it's not the kind of DRM that slows down your game in any way. Many games even let you remove steam_api.dll (thus not requiring Steam) and run just fine.

[@fuilli]

@@uooooooooh yea, steam is: * insert long af list here (I'm lazy) * and drm why do you think everyone hates other launchers/market places for games? it's cause steam... is better.

[@flamshiz]

if the Download A Car people didn't want us to pirate stuff, they shouldn't have made it look so cool

[@frtzkng]

Like all those time the Satanic Panic hit. If they wanted to make Satanists look bad they should stop making them so metal

[@Linktheboii]

Imagine wanting to play games from an older beloved console but that console has been discontinued and most games can no longer be purchased thus throwing those games where they cannot be found (exept for sketchy ebay listings). This is why some forms of piracy are morally correct because without preservation projects like Vimm's Lair those games wouldn't exist anymore.

[@frtzkng]

For some media, piracy is the only _possible_ way to obtain them, as "legal" copies have become unobtainable. Perhaps the most (in)famous example that few people know of is a program called _Score,_ which is still the industry standard for producing sheet music using a computer even though its developer died decades ago, never left instructions on how licensing should work posthumously, and his living relatives ignore all requests regarding this program.

[@starentertainment-n4l]

​@frtzkng not true, you can still get them from a local used game seller. That is how I got my copy of Goldeneye for the n64, so you can still legally get copies of the titles if you know where to look. Sometimes, you can even get them online for cheap if you know where to look. If you can get them from a second hand seller, you might be able to get legal copies that way, and piracy should be out of the discussion. Remember, Piracy will not be condoned, and should be treated as taking something that is not yours without permission. Piracy is unnecessary if you can find the copy yourselves via other legal means. Piracy is illegal for a reason, and you filthy pirates need to wake up, and see what you are doing to the people who worked hard to deliver these games.

[@nr9777]

@@starentertainment-n4lnah

[@CnCDune]

@@starentertainment-n4l I want to play F-Zero GX - give me a legit way to play it that doesn't involve selling a kidney.

[@KairaSuperSayan93]

I will admit I've done it for Sims 1 and Sims 2

[@mariovelezescalantedelagar3961]

0:18 There was also an “ad” against piracy that came with every DVD in Mexico during the 2000’s and early 2010’s, though it was completely different.

[@bayuchandrasukma820]

If I pay for anuthing, I deserve to have backups and stuff for me to use anytime, anywhere, at any devices.

[@skullchimes]

TRUUUUUUUUE

[@Very_Grumpy_Cat]

Yes of course you should be able to make backups. But I worry there will be a line of code you can not remove that can terminate the file or make it unplayable because it does not match the code for example yt have.

[@vozhonn401]

​​​@@Very_Grumpy_Cat It's possible to do that, but such protections can always be broken and there's always a workaround, so don't worry.

[@uooooooooh]

@@Very_Grumpy_CatIf it's just a normal data file then no, there's nothing that can make it unplayable or self-delete. That's an executable thing.

[@Doktario_Mystario]

@@Very_Grumpy_Cat i would imaging that it's possible to hack those features out (in this case making an KZbin emulator) + you can download KZbin video's officially anyway

[@blastradius7193]

I tried to download a car once because of those commercials. I failed... But damnit it tried!!!

[@rustymustard7798]

I downloaded a car, but found out that i had to buy a bunch of metal, weld it together an put an engine in it to drive it.

[@denelson83]

You need a large, properly-working 3D printer to be able to download a car.

[@JamesTDG]

You can easily download car 3D models, or even STLs and 3D print one. We have metal 3D printers now, so you can also print all of the electronics in a car!

[@lainiwakura1776]

I remember an old response to "you wouldn't download a car!": "f**k you! I would if I could!"

[@link_team3855]

with how much software is in cars now, you probably could...

[@Hamsterlady]

There are also situations like the Sony one from last year where their contract with Warner Bros. Discovery ended and they told everyone they'd lose all access to any Discovery content they ever purchased on the PlayStation Store, forever. The backlash was intense enough that they renewed the contract for "at least the next 30 months, " but 30 months still isn't forever, or even very long at all relative to how long a bluray lasts. The more things like this happen, the more confidence in digital distribution will be shaken, and the more people will resort to piracy as companies continue to shoot themselves in the foot.

[@Doktario_Mystario]

correct me if i'm wrong but there aren't any PS4 & PS5 emulators right? which means that what happens on PS5 stays on PS5

[@gsgrzegorz98]

@io_Mystario there are ps4 emulators or rather AN emulator and A compatibility layer (due to it being a x86 box) to be specific rpcsx and fpps4 respectively

[@Eic17H]

​​@@Doktario_Mystariothere aren't any _yet_

[@davinp]

The problem with streaming services, is that after a certain amount of time has passed, the service may choose to remove the TV show or movie from their platform. That means it won't their forever for you to download

[@LaurensKoehoorn]

You are wright, that's why there exists certain programs with which one can take a physical copy of that show from a streaming site, so whenever that show/movie gets away one still can have its own copy of it. Digital piracy will never go away.

[@oglothenerd]

As a Linux user, piracy is my favorite way to watch shows and movies. The movie Pirates of Silicon Valley is actually only available via piracy!

[@lpnp9477]

Not sure what Linux has to do with that. I use Linux now and buy what I use (though FOSS is preferred). When I was a kid using Windows, I pirated damn near everything. The difference is in being an adult with expendable income.

[@nathansos8480]

It’s ironic because it’s unironically ironic, making it ironic and an oxymoron. Which is not ironic, but it kind of is, giving it 3 layers of ironicicsm, each more simple than the last. Bad apple. Fire in the hole, Gyattstar, Skidyy Toilette.

[@connerowenn9868]

Piracy is the only way regular people like us can fight the greedy companies trying to squeeze every last penny out of their customers. With every single channel having their own streaming service now, you're basically paying for cable again.

[@rustymustard7798]

It's getting harder to fight the power lol, modern media is such garbage it's a bigger waste of my time to pirate and play/watch than they'll lose from me watching something i'd never watch for free, much less pay for.

[@Stormlywing]

@@rustymustard7798 youtube says get their membership plan ( Is 100% fair ) all things is got is everything that ( 2001 PC can also do ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- fake free robux scammers are messing up their price not themself because 24/7 upto a month would = an LOT of data in their centers get fille up think how much data you waste on your hard drive if you record yourself donating fake things for 1 month and see how much is cost your space you on 24/7 a day ) In 1080p sometime lower with fake message saying they not breaking the rule when 4 of them goes the same thing

[@uooooooooh]

The only way? You could consider unionizing and voting for any socialists you see.

[@SpriteGuard]

Not the only way! Buy from independent artists on services like Bandcamp, spend your money on people instead of products. Sure, if you want corporate media you can pirate it for free, but if you look outside the realm of corporate media, you can find so much and make a bigger difference in someone's life. Don't just starve the machine, feed the people too.

[@troywright359]

What was wrong with cable in the first place?

[@JonaaBLKWL]

I got a digital copy that came with a Blu-ray of an anime I bought. With the death of Funimation, my legitimate digital media literally got stolen from me. Ownership is important. Games, movies, music, books, software, you're just paying for access that can be revoked at any time. We'll be just a bunch of digital serfs, owning nothing and paying huge amounts of hard-earned money to virtual fiefdoms for shreds of entertainment we have no control over.

[@lainiwakura1776]

Another reason to not get Crunchyroll.

[@troywright359]

Same as if you forgot your password. Lost forever.

[@adamsfusion]

"You will own nothing and like it"

[@tama47_]

@@adamsfusion "You will own nothing [except the Blu-Ray] and like it"

[@xynium.]

this is why i use 9anime

[@Forrest_O.]

I will never stop. No one will stop me. The big companies won't lose too much money from me.

[@yiev]

Real, like Nintendo isn't gonna make any money off of Pokemon red for the Gameboy anymore anyway

[@Mrperson0]

​@@yiev Watch them announce it for the Switch on Tuesday.

[@kurarisu_]

Yep. Let's keep sailing the high seas!

[@nothinbutarchives]

What a ignorant statement

[@clouds-rb9xt]

@@Mrperson0Doesn't matter. Copyright shouldn't last longer than 20 years.

[@dontown-lb5ke]

The Internet is actually 54 yrs old. I was an Alpha-tester in Oct 1969 when they brought a Telex machine to my High school in Vancouver & I sent an "e-mail" to Simon Fraser University. Even today I get my Internet through my land-line phone. Enjoying your Channel. Yes Opera is my Browser of choice.

[@akanekanesaka4892]

That’s so cool

[@JustAVoiceInTheWind]

'stahp pirating!!!' me after pirating 627 songs onto a hard drive: 🍷🗿

[@Tristin471]

Because physical media is going away, they are deleting media that you bought and downloaded, and streaming is getting ridiculous.

[@spoopyvirgil4944]

*staring directly at HBO Max for deleting Infinity Train*

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

It's about DRM not ritualistic exchange of plastic. Please don't muddy the water by repeating this oversimplification.

[@Tristin471]

@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece That too.

[@seraphcreed840]

​@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffecenot asking for an explanation, I can do more research. But sincerely, what would I Google to find more about the distinctions here? (I am doing an essay for copy right laws In the US for school. Thanks if you see this!)

[@Fr3ak_MM8BDM]

You're more likely to get arrested for jaywalking by now.

[@yiev]

I'm more likely to be arrested for beating meat in public 😔

[@JordanLindsay-m8s]

It’s funny, where I’m from, jaywalking is legal. The chance is even less.

[@CyanRooper]

​​@@yiev "Oi! 'av u got a loicence fo' beatin' ur meat, mate?"

[@hylianarmy0]

Only if the act directly impedes the flow of traffic. At least, that's how it works in California now: You can jaywalk without consequence as long as you do it in a way that doesn't stop someone driving.

[@tealover70]

@@yiev”lil bro” yep you’re definitely below the age of 13. Get off TikTok kid.

[@PuppyLuver256]

"Imagine paying for a DVD and having it disappear off your shelf" Aaaaand that's why I won't "buy" non-physical movies or music. If I wanted to only have temporary access to something, I'd check it out from the library. (the unfortunate exception to that is wrt video games with no physical release, mostly due to being indie titles without a budget for physical just yet, thankfully a good number of digital-only games that I love have gotten physical releases over time, most recently Smile For Me ♥ )

[@LillyP-xs5qe]

Also if you get a digital copy of a game, for the most part it's not streamed, you have it locally and if steam or other storefront decided you can't play it, you can always get a crack .exe file for it

[@PuppyLuver256]

@@HadenBlake Same, thankfully my preference for games with most of their focus single-player story modes--or at least having a single-player mode available even for a primarily multiplayer game--have made it to where even my games with online connectivity are still playable without the servers running even if it's in a drastically limited sense for some cases (first one that comes to mind being the first Splatoon, even with the Wii U internet stuff getting shut down soon the Octo Valley single-player campaign is still there). It's still frustrating that there are even games with no multiplayer that are required to have online access beyond little subscription-based things like NSO's classic collections (which even though I have them, I don't think people are missing out on anything by just emulating them), but the companies gotta make their dolla-dolla-bills somehow I guess, can't just make a good game anymore I guess 9_9 On a more sentimental and less lamenting-all-that-money-down-the-drain-for-games-rendered-unplayable note, my heart goes out to everyone who's made long-lasting friendships through online multiplayer games that they can no longer connect to once those servers are offline due to not being able to exchange out-of-game contact info.

[@vegg6408]

Almost every indie game has a drm free version available If you legitimately care about preservation you should be on pc instead of on a plastic box that needs to connect to servers that will be shut down one day if the cmos battery inside the console dies

[@PuppyLuver256]

@@vegg6408 Fair point, fair point. Honestly, the only reason I have a Steam account at all is because an indie game I wanted to buy only seemed to be available on Steam _even through_ the itchio buy link that I was going to use to avoid drm (which iirc buying it there just gave you a Steam key anyway?), and I mainly bought the Switch version later to both further support the devs and snag the goodies that came with the collectors' edition (artbook my beloved hehehehe). Also, this might sound weird considering how people complain about them, but I just personally prefer how the joycons feel to keyboard/mouse or my USB controller and idk how to get them to work with my pc. I'm 110% in support of emulation for archival purposes of course, 'specially cuz companies are sharing absolutely NO interest in archiving things themselves even when they have the capability to do so and don't let their physical archives of game code get flooded by literal real-world water or whatever unfortunate nonsense has been known to happen from time to time, and tbh I feel after twenty years or so (maybe sooner, idk) any piece of media should be legal to be archived and made freely available to all if its existence is known to the people capable of doing that. Sadly the only game I've been okay with emulating myself--not for any ethical conflict, literally just cuz I'm weird about what goes on my computer--is Mother 3, but let's be honest, the window for that to get localized here has LONG since closed and luckily the fan translation is (chef's kiss) stupendulous work.

[@Unknown_Genius]

Why do people have such a hard time to realize that physical and non physical doesn't matter? What good is a damn disc if you gotta activate the product online either way - or in case of consoles, you can get the App ID blocked off if the publisher doesn't want you to play it anymore? And what even makes a disc superior to digital? If I buy an MP3 file I still keep the song and can copy and store it anywhere, if I buy a DRM free installer I can always copy it and store it anywhere. The issue is quite literally what company you buy from. You e.g. never owned any Ubisoft game in the past 15 years, physical or digitally, if they ever decide to block access to the product on consoles because they don't want anyone to play it anymore: tough luck, gotta do a factory reset to even use that disc and got a non patched buggy as hell version while disabling most features of the console on top (doesn't matter on PC as the physical copy is just a coaster with a CD Key in the box) - on the other hand you always owned CDPR games - but even there: tough luck, if you ever decide to uninstall their games on a console after Sony or Microsoft shut down the servers you'll be stuck with an unpatched version you can install from a disc, owning their installer on PC already allows you to always keep a backup of the up to date installation files. On top the "disappearing from your shelf" always has been a dumb argument. The sole reason why the "you don't own anything" policy works is because people continued to buy stuff regardless - not to say it simply worked. Piracy is a great measure of preservation or as a backup method, but the preservation and backup argument simply doesn't exist on products people had been happy to not own in the first place for years. If anything people should read the contracts they sign and not support such business practices, not later down the line act like they're owed anything.

[@ScareTheater]

I saw a NationSquid video show up in my recommended and had a sudden blast to the past haha

[@nationsquid]

Wow! Great to see you old friend. :)

[@CloudCuckooKing]

I am commenting to feed your algorithm, because I laud the guts it takes to advertise the sponsor you did on KZbin. They are openly at war with one of the services provided.

[@nathansos8480]

Hey, I’m gonna do that too!

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

"... this image of me. It's not available on the internet," It is now.

[@WilG082]

When I was a kid my dad taped terminator 2, predator 2 and die hard from HBO on a single VHS tape. It looked terrible but man it was awesome

[@ashiningsoul449]

I have a friend who pirated the fnaf movie on VHS and played it on his crtv

[@Memecube]

@@ashiningsoul449 Truly the way it was meant to be watched

[@yahshua1073]

@@ashiningsoul449 Pirating is not cool, but damn is your friend cool.

[@antiktestere]

@@yahshua1073 pirating is cool as hell idc

[@guigui4264]

@@yahshua1073 pirating will always be cool. yaar!

[@Amonimus]

There's something companies need to understand. If the price is unsatisfactory, people will be "trying before buying" or clearly never intended to pay in the first place, so the content owner doesn't lose from individual customers not paying. It's the issue when the content is shared and becomes available, so people who could pay, don't. The solution is giving additional benefits, games on Steam benefit from all additional Steam features and multiplayer, while music and songs benefit from subscriptions that give a lot of content for the price of one. If companies want people to pay, they need to give more than what's available by "free" means, and increasing prices only makes people compelled to look elsewhere.

[@NightmareRex6]

and its FREE ADVERTISING when someone pirates your crap!

[@Martin-yh7vi]

@@NightmareRex6 Anything worth pirating are usually good products. No one would go to the trouble of finding it or paying if it was good. For example, even if Skull and Bones was available to pirate, not a lot would do it, ironically, even though it''s a literal "pirate" game.

[@Justaguy-d4n]

cough youtube prenium cough

[@kimxgamer]

Piracy will stay as long as companies keep increasing their price to fuel their greediness and profits

[@saratoga4126]

Piracy: I can pirate everything Snow White (2025) Piracy: Except for that

[@Mrhouse-k1x]

Dustborn:

[@abrasivesoup]

1:03 Can confirm. I pirated so much anime in the early 2010s when i got my hands on the internet. And video games that weren't in print anymore. If Nintendo won't rerelease a game, why tf should I have to pay 200 dollars for it second hand when they don't gain any profit from that regardless??

[@theMetallico666]

All what is needed is that corporations should stop being greedy.

[@Lovuschka]

If piracy is bad, then why does Sony do it all the time by removing movies that you bought etc.?

[@NightmareRex6]

and microsoft did it back in the 80s they were the REASON for copyright law infact! they did the BAD kind of piracy too! the STEALINg peaoples code and SELLING it for profit while original author starves!

[@yoshi314]

you no longer purchase movies. you only pay for access. still a dick move, though.

[@Lovuschka]

@@yoshi314They said "purchase" on the button though.

[@yoshi314]

@@Lovuschkathat's how they get you. as long as you cannot download a drm-free copy or get a physical copy that doesn't have some kind of timelock, you don't own it

[@NeilHaskins]

@@Lovuschka Purchase the right to temporarily access. You did read the entirety terms and conditions, didn't you?

[@druo55697]

Voice : Cat-and-Mouse Captions: whack-a-mole

[@panqueque445]

Another big thing is how anti piracy measures often make the experience a pain in the ass for paying customers, and pirated copies legitimately offer a better experience. From old PC games having weird ass cyphers you have to solve before the game starts, but the pirated copies simply started like any other program. To pirated movies removing all the annoying pre-movie ads and messages (ironically including the anti piracy ad lmao)

[@zombl337og]

they say things cycle about every 20 years, and were perfectly aligned with that idea right now when it comes to piracy being mainstream. I dont want 100 streaming services at $15 /month

[@metagothh155]

This is why I collect cds of my favorite albums and artists. They’re so cheap secondhand. Spotify can’t exist forever and I want to still have access to my music when it goes down. Music is too important to me

[@TheMuso28]

I have seen music get taken down from Spotify. That was enough for me to stop using it heavily, and obtain physical copies of music that I want as much as possible.

[@JerrySpann-fn4kw]

AND THIS IS WHY CDs ARE DISAPPEARING FROM STORE SHELVES AND MOVIES AS WELL.

[@ambiarock590]

Same here. I cherish my CD collection sitting behind me. All the files are ripped to my PC (in .flac, .mp3. and in .m4a) and I keep those discs of good sounds.

[@frtzkng]

I have started doing the same. Aside from some less known albums I'm getting most of them for around $1 a pop. I still use Spotify cuz it's great for discovering new music at a reasonable price. But for the stuff I listen to the most, I have a physical copy *that I actually own* and that cannot be taken away from me.

[@jonc4403]

This is why I pirate. Pirated music is free AND you get to keep it forever.

[@yeahreally9185]

This, among other reasons, is why I collect vinyl. Recently, it almost feels like I'm doing something wrong when I put a record on. I haven't gotten permission in the form of a 50 page licensing agreement. I'm not paying anyone a subscription fee or watching an ad to earn the privilege. There's the intial cost, sure. But depending on your taste, that could be $40 or $1. I haven't been able to confirm this, but I've heard that after listening to a vinyl record roughly 17 times, the carbon footprint of producing that disk is less than that of the server upkeep needed for streaming that same album 17 times. I've also noticed recently that when I look up a song on youtube or other streaming services, sometimes it sounds different than I remember. Things get tweaked, remixed, remastered, updated. Then this new version is the difinitive one, and the only one available officially on streaming platforms. It becomes the new norm and the original is forgotten. Vinyl shields you from that. Having a physical copy of music cements its place in time. It's like peering into the past and hearing the world as it was back then. There's obscure music that was only ever released on vinyl that has never been uploaded. There are vinyl-exclusive tracks and mixes. And kind of by default, all albums on vinyl are mastered differently than their CD or digital counterparts. Because of this, vinyl largely avoided the Loudness Wars of the 80's thru the 2000's. It feels so good to my human ears. And of course my favorite reason: The world could end tomorrow and we'd lose access to the internet, lose the infrastructure powering our stereos and speakers, lose the knowledge of how to code and decode an mp3 or even how to read sheet music. But all I would need is a needle and a paper cone to listen to my records and hear the sounds of a long-dead past. It's amazing that we figured out how to translate and "write down" something so ephemeral as a sound wave. And it's a beautiful feeling being able to hold in your hands the physical embodiment of a piece of music that gives you chills. To know that it's yours forever, and no congressman or greedy record exec can take it away. I'm sorry, this was supposed to be about piracy and I wrote a romance novel about vinyl. Btw, what Beatles press was that?

[@imark7777777]

Well put but you did forget that you have to have a subscription, a monthly subscription for every service before you can put that record on. and since you have more than one you need one from every record company. LOL Yes there's been a recent trend from one of the new Star Wars films within the last 5 years, I think a PA or staff member or crew was Visible and after the online release it was pointed out if you saturated the brightness..... well you know what Disney did the edited and re-uploaded. There's another older film where they stuck a fake license plate over the real license plate and it falls off as another car drives away... well not in the online version. There's a mentality in the digital space that you can continually never finish some thing and there's a lot of cool stuff that was put out unfinished and it didn't affect or increased its demand. Nobody noticed that license plate when they watch the movie the first time maybe and did it affect the viewing experience? unless it was some super sci-fi world no probably didn't. Same goes for music the artist never finish and get it out of the DAW, or they release it multiple times without distinction of versions. There's also a trend that the Younghans don't wanna see a movie if it's in black-and-white which means they're not there for the story or Contant. So we're colorizing films now we know know what was originally black and white and we might not have the availability of the original. So long I'm going to rip a few more CDs, as soon as I find them. (I found one still unopened and then lost it).

[@kemy5368]

the loudness war started around 95, any CD produced before that time are incredibly quiet comparted to a CD from 2005. I have a CD from 1983 and it's incredibly quiet taking full adventage of CDs superior dynamic range. I have that exact same album "remastered" in 2016 and the audio is compressed to "modern standards" And today's album are mastered the same for vinyl and CD, modern albums come out on vinyl all the time... Meanwhil streaming plateform have imposed loudness restriction, so mastering louder than everyone else isn't a good strategy to be heard anymore.

[@TourFaint]

Meh, im just buying what i can on bandcamp and aquire what i can't through other means. I can download .flacs on bandcamp, put them on a thumb drive or 5, and they are mine forever. I won't settle for anything less.

[@nathansos8480]

@@kemy5368I was wondering what the ‘Loudless Wars’ were! Thank you!🙏 🤩 😊😊

[@MrChrisRP]

The one where John Lennon literally becomes Steve Jobs like what happened in real life. The character in the world stage play from Tavistock Institute surely loves his Apples. You know how YOU can know I am telling you truth? How's that resonation with it going? You're welcome.

[@mommamajora7749]

This is so true. Pirating isn't stealing these days, it's being self-sufficient. With all the exorbitant prices and lack of true ownership... Why give someone your money, if you don't own the product? It's no different than competing businesses. If you cannot provide a satisfactory service to a customer, that customer is more than free to get the product elsewhere from a more competent provider.

[@ScooterinAB]

If companies want to stop piracy, they need to stop engaging in anti-consumer practices.

[@jonc4403]

If companies want to stop piracy, they need to fuck right the fuck off, because we will NEVER stop.

[@LeshaTheBeginner]

Piracy is way too big to be stopped

[@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ]

And that's because of the shareholders and CEOs greed.

[@LeshaTheBeginner]

@@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ and it's free

[@LeshaTheBeginner]

@@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ And it's free

[@seraphcreed840]

​@@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZif you have to work 40-50 hours a week to make ends meet, CEOs are the least of the common persons issues.

[@asbfabfoaijfo8]

"Do not download any cars Unless it's a 1958 Edsel. Those are rare." got me laughing hard time. (also u wont stop me)

[@Bytheway-2004]

We can all agree that the best anti piracy ad was weird al's "dont download this song."

[@MutleeIsTheAntiGod]

Immediately got it from kazaa

[@DKRCecer]

​@@MutleeIsTheAntiGodThat's kind of amusing given that it was freely downloadable from his website :P

[@Bytheway-2004]

@@DKRCecer wait what website

[@DKRCecer]

@@Bytheway-2004 The website is offline now but the Wikipedia reference points to it on the wayback machine (which ironically is down at this moment or seems). It was also on his MySpace apparently.

[@DKRCecer]

@@Bytheway-2004 KZbin hates it if I provide details but the Wikipedia article for the song can point you there

[@kintustis]

If I buy a book, I can read it any way I want, at any time, in any location, without internet access, as many times as I want, into perpetuity as long as the book physically lasts. I can write in the margins, and can make personal modifications or annotations however I want for personal use. The book will never be taken from me or rendered unusable through any means that aren't already felonies, or catastrophic events. If I buy an ebook, movie, or game, I can only play it on certain devices, while the servers are up, in certain regions and countries, online only, only while companies actively maintain their official apps, and am subject to anticheat and tamper protection even for single player games, only for as long as the licensing and servers last (which can typically be anywhere from 0 days, to maybe a decade or two). The purchase may then be taken away or rendered unusable at any time for any imagined reason by the company, with no legal recourse or refund for the purchaser. Ross Scott's "Games As A Service" video continues to be relevant.

[@hanniffydinn6019]

I always pirate books! They are all there and drm free! 😎😎😎😎😎👍👍👍👍😎

[@miguelbat27]

No matter how much they try to convince you it is, digital Piracy is not stealing. It's simply copyright infringement which by itself cannot get you in jail.

[@jackieestacado7624]

Geez, I just remembered my childhood and teenage years using the ARES P2P system to download things. Worst thing of all is that the person who taught me how to use it told me that it wasn't piracy but instead I was helping the producing companies by "taking free samples of their products and having feedback sent to them" (I was a child back then. I would still believe Power Rangers were real). Just imagine the surprise I got when I learned the truth. Geez, good times.

[@jets4687]

Haha ares! I use to use that 1 too.. I started on Napster and than when they got shut down I went through programs like ares, kazaa, limewire, frostwire.. good times indeed lol I use to burn cds in the early 2000s and sell them at school for 5 bucks a piece.. this was before everyone and their mother had a cd burner and knew how to use it 😂

[@ИгорьМерзляков-р7д]

Cool guy

[@sutpecna]

Ares! I used this one too. Good times.

[@cybershinigami9907]

If we don't own the games we buy on digital storefronts, than piracy isn't stealing.

[@Unknown_Genius]

Dumb argument. Especially since there's a ton of digital games that you do own. If you don't own it, you bought it from the wrong company. If you agree to any contract stating that you don't own anything except for a temporary license over a unspecified amount of time (be it digital or physical (e.g. any Ubisoft game in the past 15 years)) then yeah, you don't own anything, at your own fault I may add. Piracy of any product that is still being sold is still stealing no matter how you want to twist it. Piracy of any product that's not available anymore (with the obvious exception of products that solely had been sold as a license) on the other hand definitely is preservation. A ton of people have warned you when companies started doing that BS, anything that comes from it (and that it's still a thing) is solely thanks to people who didn't care and further bought into it.

[@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ]

​@@Unknown_Geniusdepends on the regions. In some the terms and agreements state that you own what you purchased but in other they allows you the licence to play it only. For example I live in EU, in my country you own what you buy otherwise it's not available in my country but in some states of US you don't own the game you bought

[@Unknown_Genius]

​@@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ That's wrong on so many levels that I don't even know where to start (I live in the EU as well btw). Let's start with the simple: Buying a license is buying and owning said license until said license is either terminated by you or the other party - that's a purchase, it is what you quite literally paid for and it's nothing against any EU law because there's no reason to not allow it. As an example for you to check on: Every Ubisoft game (and from most other major game companies (and a lot of smaller ones) in the past 15 years) HAS that specific contract, within the EU as well (just read through them). Now open up Steam (or the PSN store, go to the store that sells games around the corner, whatever honestly), if you'd not be able to buy it, you shouldn't be able to even find any modern Ubisoft game like Ghost Recon Wildlands/Breakpoint or Assassins Creed games like Syndicate/Odyssey/Mirage. If you find any of those (which you will): congrats, you just figured out that you should start actually reading the contracts you sign and return the product if it ain't to your liking.

[@ialwayswatchyoutube812]

@@Unknown_Genius oh god i thought this comment was going to be actually good but its just one of THOSE arguments

[@HyperionZero]

@@Unknown_Genius Have fun when Ubisoft deletes your account for being idle for too long and you lose out on all $500+ of games you've purchased.

[@trevgauntletneu_gaming]

The number of subscriptions is getting ridiculous. Car features, streaming services, software, and online gaming subscription tiers are becoming more common. Companies are making features that were once free and making them a part of the paid subscription.

[@WeatherMan2005]

Yeah. I wont subscribe to any services other than xbox live. At least until i may abandon modern xbox

[@nathansos8480]

Nintendo Switch Online, Exactly.

[@frtzkng]

That's why it'll take a *massive* boost in convenience to convince me to not buy and drive a used 90s or 2000s car. Technology which isn't present cannot break down and cannot be held ransom for subscription money

[@Sterling_Silver04]

I absolutely despise the subscription concept being forced everywhere because ultimately, it will cost the user more in the long run than a single-time purchase of a higher ticket price. That's the same reason I don't like renting houses, if you rent a place long enough you will have paid more money than would have been required to *buy* the house outright, but you still don't own it despite paying more.

[@vylbird8014]

Not to mention Fucking Adobe. A constant headache at work because of the need to keep the list of licenced users up to date as people move around in function.

[@Llamarama100]

Download something > Pay monthly to watch something that may be removed at any point for reasons unknown

[@Pxnlc]

Paying monthly is just asking for a drained bank acc

[@ambiarock590]

@@Pxnlc Which is why I choose to keep the number of subscriptions I have to a minimum.

[@foxracing8973]

The "Do not download any cars" at the beginning instantly had me saying outloud, "You wouldn't steal a car..." I swear in the early 2000s they had that "PSA" at the beginning of almost all the DVDs 😅 You did an absolutely fantastic job with your closing words starting at 23:42 and I feel exactly the same way, with one exception. Companies need to continue to offer physical media of all kinds..books, movie, games,ect. If some ppl like things digital great, but don't force those of us who don't like it (for many reasons) into buying digital.

[@TheLexikitty]

Don’t sell perpetual licenses to products if you won’t allow for the download and archival of that product (speaking mainly in gaming and software here).

[@Nachokinz]

As far as i'm concerned; copyright law needs to be brought back in line with patent law, no more than 20 years (15 + optional 5 extension) after initial publication of the work. There must also be end of life plans put into place for programs and games otherwise reliant on outside servers to function or they become public domain regardless of how much time would otherwise be left 6 months after servers are shut down. If one hasn't made money off their work after 20 years, that should be the fault of the copyright owner/publisher alone; I have no sympathy for those who attempt to defend a lifetime of exclusivity for an idea at the expense of the preservation of our history and culture.

[@masterofbloopers]

Pirates are some of the greatest preservationists of all time. If not for them, we wouldn't be able to play a lot of old video games. Nowadays most of us don't consider emulating abandonware piracy, but their efforts helped sow the seeds for what would become modern day emulation.

[@EchterAlsFake]

When my favourite song got removed from Spotify I learned, that paying isn't owning. And since then I started pirating and now I am seeding stuff every fucking day.

[@rosiedollface]

But we have a store in the UK called 'HMV', it's a very famous record shop + sadly a few years back they were slumped into administration (Bankruptcy), so seeing that new it scared me so much ! But I was so so happy to find out that they survived, a few stores closed but so many more are now open + are beaming with so much vinyl and customers. Loads of people buying CDs + DVDs.. it's great to see.

[@uooooooooh]

unfortunate name lmao

[@ItsEnderium]

@@uooooooooh ?

[@gabe_s_videos]

It won't stop because humans are a learning species. Obstacles don't stop us, they just force us to come up with new ways around them. What WILL stop us is more work, like piracy websites asking for personal information or making you sit through lots and lots of ads for sketchy products. "Oh, you can have this, no trouble, but you gotta jump through hoops to get it. How badly do you want it?" I'll always remember that scene with the matchmaker app in Rick & Morty, where the only thing that cures users of their literal addiction to it is making them sit through ads to use it.

[@rosiedollface]

Also, I love buying physical albums, sitting down with my portable CD player + not skipping anything... (Nostalgia from this though, seeing the old Windows Media Player and Winamp.. cry)

[@Sterling_Silver04]

I still burn/use CD's and DVD's, there's just something about it that I like using

[@zombchu]

I recently started using Winamp and i love it! I never grew up with it because i was pretty young when it was popular but it still makes me nostalgic

[@StephenMcGregor1986]

Anyone remember VCR's? Cassette recorders? TV show recording, radio music recording. Any time you wanted, any where you wanted. Pepperidge farm remembers.

[@RERM001]

As a wise level 9000 wizard once said: "Piracy isn't a pricing issue, it is a distribution one". And as a wise TV mogul also said: "If not even pirates care about your work, you are a nobody then".

[@PeacefulAutistic]

What we want is a way to get what we want for relatively cheap. Getting songs for 99¢ a piece was nice but as a broke middle schooler and high school freshman who had an mp3 player we were forced to pirate music. Our parents weren’t going to pay for us to have a library of even 25 songs let alone the 1000s that Apple Music lets me have. Over the course of my time as a teen who didn’t understand the internet I only had 20 songs on my player. I used the radio function of my mp3 player a lot while on the bus. My family was strict. I didn’t get a smart phone until I graduated in 2016. I had only a keyboard phone.

[@DrKoneko]

I know that it's the death of physical media right now but I actually think that it's coming back to life very slowly. Obviously vinyl is cool again, how long until CDs are? And with streaming prices going up every month it won't be long until people either want DVDs, or become pirates. I know that piracy is also on the rise as of recent. R/Piracy sees more users every day and i truly think this is the next wave. Edit: lmao if I had waited 5 more minutes for the video to load the next 15 seconds I would have realized you said basically everything I said word for word.

[@jsCP94]

This comment section in a nutshell: they respond instantly to the title, not actually watch the video lol

[@zombchu]

I have also seen people my age (like ppl born in the mid 2000s) burning cds and making tutorials on how to burn cds! Its so cool how history repeats itself like this

[@DrKoneko]

@@jsCP94 actually KZbin was down on this day and was taking forever to load videos so i needed to wait a few more seconds in.

[@wcsoblake85]

The number of "pirates" reached its highest back in the early 2000s. That is because everyone was using Napster, Limewire, and other programs like those. Everyone was downloading pirated music and then burning their mix CDs.

[@jonc4403]

Pirating is easier than ever now. With software like Sonarr and Radarr, you can automate downloading TV shows and movies, and then you own them forever.

[@JohnCena-e8s]

the real theft is the fact you dont actually own a game after purchasing it

[@SideQuestStories]

What is the only way to play PT, the most influential game in the entire history of horror video games? Piracy.

[@kempy2]

One thing you didn’t touch on how when the prices go up the quality of the product doesn’t, people will pay more if its a better experience but when you pay for a worse experience people feel cheated and piracy becomes a better experience and better quality. you can download a blue ray quality movie, where when streaming even in 4k its still a lot more compressed then a blue ray. i wish i could but blue rays but that’s not an option and paying for a movie of the same quality online is almost impossible so the best way people see is to pirate it

[@Sidewinder1996]

So long as corporations overcharge or take advantage of their consumer base; there will always be piracy

[@karakuri3035]

Especially those damn overpriced monthly subscription.

[@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ]

Mate, that's not even the half of it. In US you get the license but not owning the game in most EU countries though you do own the games/movies due to different terms and agreements of services and you CANNOT add anything that breaching the privacy of the consumer nor turn everything down without a backlash and they (some corporations) STILL breached the privacy of some consumers which was going to lead to a case but end up settling in a way. They don't even know what they're doing anymore which is going to crash and burn at some point. The only thing keeps them going is the fact that some of their games are made to be not fun but addictive in order to hook the kids nowadays.

[@jamescopeland6802]

if i should be c o m f t o r b l e not o w n i ng what i b u y they should b e comfy going b a n k r u p t.

[@siliconhawk]

cooperates - exploits the consumer consumer - rebels and start exploiting their material by pirating thier things. cooperates - suprise Pikachu face

[@redminute6605]

I do HOPE that piracy never stops: keep on doing the good work, to improve the productions that lazy and profit-driven producers ruined...

[@ambiarock590]

Can't remember where I heard this but I heard somewhere that piracy is a passion project, thus the people involved don't cut corners and produce a product that is actually good that people like. Companies cannot achieve this because they only care about profits.

[@worldquestioneer1533]

Piracy teaches rights holders a lesson to listen to their customers’ pleas. Stop thinking about just the money they want and start thinking about what their customers want. I’d like big companies to be haunted by ghosts of past, present, and future, just like Ebenezer Scrooge in A Christmas Carol.

[@pjpleiss]

I liked a quote from the late great Eric Flint during his introduction to the Baen Free Library: "As a widespread phenomenon rather than a nuisance, piracy occurs when artificial restrictions in the market jack up prices beyond what people think are reasonable."

[@mascan7905]

The fracturing of the streaming landscape makes it even worse. Five years ago, between Prime and Netflix, you could get any movie you wanted. Now I'd need to pay for half a dozen services to cover just what I have on my bookcase.

[@junker15]

Corporations have routinely tested with me the viability of simply doing without. They did this with cable TV. I gave them the finger in 2004 and cut the cord. They did this with physical media, and my pre-recorded tape collection doesn't really exist (and my CD collection is around 100, and DVDs are a similar number). My pre-recorded VHS collection is similar because pre-recorded VHS used to cost a lot (like $80 for ONE movie in the early 1980s!). With the hellscape that is streaming and digital today, they're making it really easy for me to simply not subscribe (or "buy" without actually owning a thing). They're fucking around and finding out that I can do without their ephemeral product (I hold my part of this bargain up by actually doing without). It's not like they're providing food, clothing or shelter. If companies can delete my ephemeral digital copy of a thing I BOUGHT, and thus make me "un-own" it, then I have difficulty considering piracy of their stuff to be "theft". They could have at least given me my money back.

[@bluciuswastaken]

I remember seeing that PSA back then, Scared me shitless lol

[@miguelmontero6130]

What, the Piracy is Stealing PSA?

[@felicianomiko5659]

I was in my late teens and had been pirating for years by then. It just made me laugh.

[@JayTheComputerGuy]

I love my DVDs, cds and blu rays ❤️💿 long live physical media!

[@uooooooooh]

HDDs and SSDs are also physical media, no?

[@smangy5442]

Pirating is like copying someone's car and reconstructing it, is it really theft? the owner isn't deprived of their property

[@Goofysillyassmf]

Piracy was never an issue OF theft to begin with. It's an issue if copyright infringement

[@worldquestioneer1533]

The only reason pirating is wrong is because it harms the copyright holder financially. People will chose to download or get the free copy rather than pay for a legitimate copy. Therefore, the copyright holder won’t make money because people aren’t paying to purchase the copies.

[@PorygonFTW]

I find the message here to ring hollow. You can hope that big companies will do what is in the best interest of everyone, but if nothing changes, companies wont change.

[@Justin-Hill-1987]

In Soviet Russia, the people used discarded X-ray pictures to create bootleg recordings of of vinyl records in the 1950s and beyond. The people used to play music on those "bones" or "ribs," as they, the "stilyagi," used to call the fake records...

[@AdamBorseti]

So you watched the video too, huh?

[@Justin-Hill-1987]

@@AdamBorseti I watched this and multiple videos on Russian bootleg recordings...

[@GameGenieLabs]

I literally wants me to go back watching cable. You can record what shows come one and off, and although it is just patience, it's the closest to owning a physical copy of that show or movie. I don't even care if I record it to VHS or DVD... It's honestly sad that companies today can remove stuff in a snap, and ruin so many relationships all because of money. Look at Disney starting to fade away from some of their DVD and Blu-Ray production for media you can't obtain. Sad world we live in...

[@Dalister]

i know this is wishful thinking, but imagine if someone was able to set up a analog tv version of those pirate radio stations, like it would play movies and shows that have been taken down or modified beyond their original form

[@ShwappaJ]

If purchasing isn't owning, then piracy isn't theft. Plain and simple. That's like having your cake while the companies eat it for you.

[@Unknown_Genius]

My guy. If you purchased e.g. any Ubisoft product in the past 15 years you quite literally purchased a revocable license as clearly stated by them. So yes, piracy (while being a great way of preservation and as an emergency backup mechanic) would definitely be stealing in that case. Acting like you'd be owed something if you specifically agree to not want an actual product and happily pay for it isn't exactly an argument, it's sheer stupidity and the reason why it's even still a thing nowadays.

[@danieltoth9742]

@@Unknown_Genius Licenses are revokable "as clearly stated" where exactly? On page 257 of the EULA that they _know_ nobody has the time nor patience to read? Do _you_ read all EULA-s presented to you? Because if you missed a single clause, you shouldn't call anyone stupid for doing the same. These companies go out of their way to never correct the misconception that we "own" things, because they know exactly what they're doing. But if you argue _for_ these practices based on technicalities rather than morality, then you don't. You're shooting in the wrong direction.

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@danieltoth9742 2 things for you: 1) They literally have to make them clearly readable and up front. You could've easily fact checked by just pulling up the bare bone Ubisoft EULA or EA EULA they just shove onto every game - not to say: First point explaining you that you're only getting a license and closing it with a fat caps locked "YOU DO NOT OWN THE PRODUCT" for anyone to understand and instantly identify. 2) EULAs are a binding contract my guy, if you don't read them: Your own fault. and an extra point: You can literally open their EULAs in your browser and use the search function to specifically search for keywords and get them marked, it's a thing of not even 5 minutes, if you don't have the time for that somehow then you don't have time to play a game in the first place, do you? Laziness isn't exactly an excuse for being part of the problem that normalized not owning anything for over a decade, especially since people called it out for years and grew tired of it because people like you acted like "no one cares".

[@EmotionalParaquat714神离天]

@@Unknown_Genius Basically the same argument of people who defend Hachette for suing Internet Archive over the archive’s Open Library program.

[@gabrielv.4358]

yes

[@SnapshotOfASoul]

The disappearing DVD was actually a thing, it didn't take off though because people wanted to keep media for longer.

[@firun2635]

Recently, I had to think of Gabe Newell's well known phrase that piracy is a service problem. We wanted to do a movie night at my company, where we have a huge LED wall that is nearly in the right aspect ratio for movies. I had tried to legally buy the movies in question. Either they were not available in my country on a given platform, the language was wrong, it needed certain devices, or it was very low quality. After buying it twice and not being able to play it, I just pirated them. Why does a paying customer have to jump through all these hoops? Annoy people enough, and the high seas WILL see much more traffic again.

[@progamer3000-uz7pj]

Yup Just Downloaded a 1958 Edsel. Thanks for the tip

[@mohamedallouha3190]

i dont see piracy as a crime and stealing because i copy the original file and the owner get to keep the same unlike robbery and theft. you steal from people and they left with nothing so, i am good with piracy. DIGITAL only

[@Lunarrbase]

​@n0tjak weh weh weh

[@EmotionalParaquat714神离天]

@n0tjak Basically the same argument of people who defend Hachette for suing Internet Archive over the archive’s Open Library program.

[@worldquestioneer1533]

The whole point of copyright is financial protection for the copyright holder. If it doesn’t harm the rights holder financially, it CANNOT be considered copyright infringement or piracy.

[@beejls]

I just did a search for 28 Days Later and yep, it is gone. That is bizarre. Why would that just disappear from all viewability, it's it's a great film?

[@Astolfo2001]

I bet it got banned due to it unintentionally predicting C0V1D-19 similar to what happened with the SpongeBob episode Kwarantine Krab.

[@bippaasama]

A big component of prices for streaming services being low in the past was the artificially maintained low interest rates. Those interest rates made it so investor money would keep flowing no matter what, so that revenues from customers could be kept relatively low for a very long period of time. However, that's changing and now and we're seeing the "true" cost for these services. Corporations are laying off non-essential employees, raising their prices and balancing their budgets better in the new interest rate environment. The true cost of these streaming services was never really low, it's just that companies were relying on investors to foot the majority of the bill.

[@metroid1859]

I genuinely believe if the company is both not selling the product and that product is almost impossible to find legally or impossible to find legally without having to pay app to 800 times retail price for after market copies, piracy is fully legal and justified... A great example is a lot of anime from the early 2000s, and other TV shows that basically are impossible to find. Like for example, most of the digimon series are impossible to find for anything under thousands of dollars to own a whole set And you are lucky if you find it streaming Anywhere for long.

[@adolescencja]

unrelated to the video but nationsquid pushed my interest in technology so hard that i became a computer science student thanks for the good vids 🙏

[@DatJack]

me too but an it in the navy

[@TeionM83]

The first time I saw it was on a pirated Garfield DVD. Ah, the irony. Also, don't copy that floppy.

[@Omnicrom]

As has been said a dozen times over, piracy is a service problem. You're never going to eradicate 100% of pirates, but if you give people an easy, cheap, reliable service they can depend on, the overwhelming majority of people will give you their money and not pirate your stuff. Meanwhile, if you are expensive, dictatorial, restrictive, unhelpful, unpleasant, obstructive, and overall painful to use it shouldn't be a surprise people will take their custom elsewhere. If corporate BS means you can't provide a better service than a pirate website you have nobody to blame but yourself.

[@jonc4403]

Piracy isn't a problem. Capitalism is a problem. Piracy is a solution.

[@deonlepharaoh]

Sad part is 90% of the music I physically own today I discovered back when I was pirating music really heavy. So many artists and bands I would have never discovered or even given a chance of I hadn't been able to download for free way back when

[@galacticgamer4384]

Piracy is not legally theft, legally it is considered copyright infringement, as it is the unlawful copying and distribution of goods not actually stealing them.

[@BNWilliamGaming]

I only pirate stuff when it’s no longer being sold, so I’m not hurting any profit. 2:34

[@Jacklyn-Arts]

If I can’t legally own it directly from the original creator and in no way aid them in profits, why should I now pay somone who never never worked on it nor contributed to its success

[@ALW1891]

@@Jacklyn-ArtsAlmost always free tho

[@onegabriel5823]

I've seen pirated media come with higher video quality compared to the official services due to their DRM not liking my particular setup. Also, there are times where pirates provide me better subtitles.

[@TheOzumat]

Great point about the subtitles. The efforts of fansub groups are _the_ sole reason anime exists in the west.

[@KyanoAng3l0_Mtvtks]

Been buying legit since the early 2010s, after years of pirating stuff as a kid. Felt great for a while. Now, that old itch to pirate is getting more unbearable. These companies aren't just greedy. They don't seem to give a damn about their own products - their employees' years of hard work - going to the ether. It's like they WANT us to pirate. Pisses me off. Since 2019, I've been saving a backup copy of every piece of media I've owned. I also have a cr@ck for every program that has a DRM in case it goes defunct in the future.

[@shenghe9876]

Your hoodie is very relevant when speaking about piracy and preservation. Some of The Beatles' mono albums are not available on streaming services (except for Apple Music) unlike other bands and artists on their label, and demand is high with limited copies available physically, so those albums are hard to find and usually fetch high prices. They are also one of the few bands and artists that block KZbin videos that use their music (until recently), so piracy was the only option if you didn't want to pay the price.

[@WhoLover]

The shittier and greedier companies get, the more ethically moral it is to not allow them your hard earned money. However you can still obtain their products.