Sans Pareil: Rocket's Rainhill Rival | Curator with a Camera

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@rogerfroud300
@rogerfroud300 Жыл бұрын
You can see why it didn't have any meaningful springs, because with vertical cylinders it would have waddled like a duck. Even Rocket must have shown that tendency, which is presumably why it was rebuilt with the cylinders nearer to the horizontal.
@1825Steam-vl9ob
@1825Steam-vl9ob 9 ай бұрын
It had springs fitted when used in the Rainhill trials, recent research has shown that Locomotion also had springs through most of its working life
@exveefan
@exveefan Жыл бұрын
You know what I would love to see, someone try building a steam engine with todays knowledge and technology advances, but following the Rainhill trials entry rules and seeing if they can out perform the Rocket.
@the_retag
@the_retag Жыл бұрын
easily. much much higher boiler pressures and more efficient boilers, supeheaters, high precision machining etc. would have already been a childs play in the 1930s, and google "modern steam" if youwant to see how much further weve come
@exveefan
@exveefan Жыл бұрын
​@@the_retag I know that, but the Rainhill trials had strict Stipulations and Conditions, One of them was "boiler no greater than 50 pounds per square inch" So your Higher boiler pressure suggestion is out. My question DID say "today's knowledge" which does mean features like supeheaters, high precision machining etc. With that in mind you also have to obey the other entry condition "No locomotive may weigh more than six tons" So let me rephrase my question to you. - CAN we Build a Locomotive following RainHill trial Entry Conditions with todays Modern advances including supeheaters, high precision machining etc. But still with the strict restictions including that the locomotive weigh no more than 6 tons and have a boiler pressure no higher than 50 Psi. And be able to out perform the Rocket?
@the_retag
@the_retag Жыл бұрын
@@exveefan weight is not an issue. we can build tiny steam locos
@gherkinisgreat
@gherkinisgreat 8 ай бұрын
It would be easy to outperform the originals, just the design of more modern valve gear alone would make a far more effective engine even if you didn't improve anything else
@Wernerrrrr
@Wernerrrrr Жыл бұрын
I'm not a real railway enthousiast, but I love this video: the (hi)story, the presentation, the locomotive and even the U-tube joke :) Keep them coming!
@thomasawl
@thomasawl Жыл бұрын
Do you think in the thomas universe the original stephensons rocket and the original sans pareil would be constantly yelling at eachother now that they are in the same museum?
@dereham1
@dereham1 Жыл бұрын
An excellent story which you have presented brilliantly, thank you.
@RHTeebs
@RHTeebs Жыл бұрын
0:21 "train"
@KPen3750
@KPen3750 Жыл бұрын
What my friend and I find sort of ironic (and Sans Pareil is my friends favorite Rainhill loco) is that Rocket barely lasted more than a few years in service, whereas Sans Pareil was a real workhorse of its time and just kept on going. Truly one of a kind and without any equal
@furripupau
@furripupau Жыл бұрын
I hope you look at The Agenoria, I've always wondered if it has the same flue arrangement as Stourbridge Lion. Also always wanted to get a look at the odd repair/modification to the front of the boiler.
@kimballthurlow577
@kimballthurlow577 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the knowledgeable and well researched explanation.
@roberthocking9138
@roberthocking9138 Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video, so much information captured for history
@colin.d
@colin.d Жыл бұрын
I visited Locomotion museum last year but wish I had seen this item first!
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating thankyou curator with a camera!
@andrewdenton8510
@andrewdenton8510 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your informative videos. See history can be very interesting. More PLEASE
@SaturnCanuck
@SaturnCanuck Жыл бұрын
Fascinatingly history
@CarolineFord1
@CarolineFord1 11 ай бұрын
I thin you should show some of these videos at the museums, they give a much better understanding of what you are looking at
@terrier_productions
@terrier_productions Жыл бұрын
She looking good for nearly 200
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 Жыл бұрын
A later trial of Stephenson designs against Hackworth repaired design would surely have the advantages of the multi tubular boiler and better blast pipe prevail. The U-tube boiler with the fireman at the other end never got into large scale production for good reasons.
@WilliamjameswestWEST
@WilliamjameswestWEST 7 ай бұрын
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@Madladmx
@Madladmx Жыл бұрын
I live near there just near the engine shed could you visit the shed on Saturday pls I would love to meet you
@jeffsymons4535
@jeffsymons4535 Жыл бұрын
So much of the history has been ignored or changed. Robert Stephenson & Co were accused of deliberate sabotage by providing Hackworth with a defective cylinder. Although it almost certainly not deliberate, I find it curious that you choose to completely ignore such an important, well documented part of its history.
@adeerdoes
@adeerdoes Жыл бұрын
Because it IS an important, well documented part of history. Something this chanel likes to do is talk about the lesser known historical facts about the engines in the collection. For instance, I had no clue this engine ended up as a winding house, but the suspected sabotage of components (unlikely) has been told to death!
@anthonycoulls7301
@anthonycoulls7301 Жыл бұрын
Jeff, what you see is an edited version of over 2 hours filming, not everything made the cut! I don't deliberately ignore history - (edited comment while I recheck my sources, it's Sunday night and I am away from my books)
@mrsulzer5913
@mrsulzer5913 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonycoulls7301 The Sans Pareil boiler was made by Bedlington Iron works whose quality was not very good, Rockets boiler was made by Joseph and William Bennitt of dudley, The cylinders of both engines was cast by the Stephensons who made several pairs for Hackworth who hand picked the best ones himself
@anthonycoulls7301
@anthonycoulls7301 Жыл бұрын
@@mrsulzer5913 I will go back to my sources, I had a feeling when typing that Bedlington did the cylinders too, but that Stephenson provided them. I knew the story of Hackworth choosing them himself.
@mrsulzer5913
@mrsulzer5913 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonycoulls7301 In the early days Stephensons had another company in the same road casting cylinders for them but since locomotions they cast their own cylinders for all engines after 1825 including the Sans Pareil, Royal George and the two Rockets the S&D rocket and the Rainhill Rocket
@Arkay315
@Arkay315 Жыл бұрын
Sans Pareil, truly unmatched.
@raphaelnikolaus0486
@raphaelnikolaus0486 Жыл бұрын
(i) I'm not French, but I'm pretty sure that the 'reil' part in "pareil" is pronounced like the English _rail_ -- with the L probably even being silent.
@syedali2832
@syedali2832 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a Curator with a camera on the LNWR's Prestondent 790 Hardwick Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway
@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway Жыл бұрын
What a shame. I have to watch a KZbin video because the museum wasn't open on Bank Holiday Monday 8th May. I wasn't the only one to be disappointed.
@RaysRailVideos
@RaysRailVideos Жыл бұрын
Aye bloody stupid that a public museum being closed on a bank holiday, that needs sorting so it never happens again
@davidrenton
@davidrenton 11 ай бұрын
why did'nt he take it to liverpool via the Train, oh wait
@simonn2045
@simonn2045 Жыл бұрын
I think this should be moved to a more prominent place in the shildon museum, it's tucked away, like an afterthought, off to one side
@anthonycoulls7301
@anthonycoulls7301 Жыл бұрын
It's actually displayed centrally now, with Rocket to one side and Locomotion to the other. Come and see!
@simonn2045
@simonn2045 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonycoulls7301 excellent excuse to come back again :)
@anthonycoulls7301
@anthonycoulls7301 Жыл бұрын
@@simonn2045 come and have a chat 😎
@christopherhogg8364
@christopherhogg8364 Жыл бұрын
Ive suggested that to staff there. They have a replica of rocket going up and down pulling passengers in the summer. Whilst the sans pareil replica sits there dwarfed by the black five and Winston Churchill parked next to it, gathering dust. It's shildon fgs
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