NATURAL HORSEMANSHIP AND DRESSAGE, ARE THEY DIFFERENT?

Joseph Newcomb talks about how the term natural horsemanship comes from using a horse training methodology that incorporates the natural responses from the horse... if this is the case doesnt that make good dressage training under the natural horsemanship umbrella? Starting with the foundation on the ground, Joseph talks through basic groundwork and getting the horse to understand space. once the horse understands to yield to the handelers space, we can control the hindleg, position bend and explain what our different aids are. Joseph works in some cinematic sequences to keep this video entertaining.

[@leannebourgeois1098]

Hi Mr. Newcomb; I know this video is a few months old, but I am new to your channel and am enjoying and learning as well. Thank you for that. Just a comment on the negativity with natural horsemanship. Years ago I attended clinics of both Mr. Roberts and Mr. Parelli. I found them both interesting, but believe that they are more suited to people who already have some experience with horses and how they think and behave. I was lucky to be able to watch Mr. Roberts choose from the local horses which ones he would use in the clinic and it was obvious to me and my friend that he chose the horses that would respond to his techniques the most easily. As I see it, they show you enough to get your interest and then the marketing begins. Having worked for a large animal vet practice for many years, I have seen many beginners with their new horses and their special halters, leads and sticks with just enough knowledge to be dangerous. The trainer's never explained that the information given at these clinics is just the tip of the iceberg and there is so much more to learn. That being said, from the few videos of yours that I have watched, I believe that your showing things step by step and giving us your history and reasoning behind it all is very informative and appreciated. Love the drone footage! Thanks again!! Be Blessed!!!

[@PatrickKingHorsemanship]

A negative connotation certainly exists about natural horsemanship these days. In some circles, it seems to have become a "sub-discipline" of over-desensitizing, over-disengaging, and basic trick training. Glad to have found your channel. New subscriber here.

[@shirleybroady1844]

There definitely is resistance to "natural horsemanship" by dressage trainers and riders. For me, it's because of the way it's presented. It has become a sort of cult and is driven by a "born again christian" type of motivation. I get a vision of a tent and a faith healer preaching to a gullible congregation. Their selling promises they can't keep and their faithful followers are made to feel superior to other riders simply by taking part. Joseph takes a better approach in that he explains how it blends with dressage and is not magic or voo doo or that you need a special rope or flag to do it and so on. I especially like the video on bending the horse first from the ground. I agree with Lisa that a sequel showing details would be welcomed and that a dressage whip can be used in place of a lead rope. I want to turn a fire hose on these people I see twirling the rope at the horse and pointing.

[@battanle]

It's nice to see you try to explain how the basic ground work in natural horsemanship relates to dressage. I hope that you will continue to expand upon this theme. I hope that you will include a more detailed explanation of what you are doing with your horse on the ground (like a sequence of ground exercises and the goal of each), how you are creating bend on the ground and how that relates to bend under saddle, how you want to see the hind leg step up and under, moving the forehand over, How to keep the distance with your horse and the feel that you want in your hand. This is rich ground and I think that you can help dressage riders understand how this work can help their riding and improve their relationship with their horse. I like the videos, but I always leave your videos wanting more details. Maybe more clinics are needed in Boulder :)

[@JosephNewcomb]

Lisa Battan yes. There is so much complexity here in these exercises. I’m hoping to do more in the future. Thanks for following along.

[@jillymet]

I'm so interest in this. The combination of Natural Horsemanship and Dressage. Please do more and in more detail. 😊

[@JosephNewcomb]

heypresto yorkshire thank you. Working on more like this.

[@kippen64]

I use elements of natural horsemanship to help me retrain problem horses. That prompted me to ask myself when it was that I last owned a horse that didn't need to be broken in and/or had major behavioral issues. I was twelve and am currently a lot older than that. Unreal! Really enjoying the videos.

[@JosephNewcomb]

Kitty awesome. It’s so true. Glad you like the video.

[@suebraun374]

I am totally on board. Natural horsemanship can work well with good dressage training. Looking forward to more videos dealing with this philosophy/approach.

[@esarinou9144]

I found your video while looking for horsemanship and the moment I heard you speaking I knew you were Amelia’s brother hahaha

[@ThePaulahoo1]

Such incredibly stunning visuals! The overhead shot is such a treat - I'm sure most of us are just used to looking at simple line drawings - so seeing it "live" is wonderful. Thank you for the awesome education!

[@dawnaustin4556]

Very good explanation!!! Thank you!

[@amandasawyer4784]

Awesome 😎 Awesome 😎 Awesome 😎. More please Joseph, am getting so much out of your amazing vlogs. The drone shots showing the bend were amazing thank you 😊

[@JosephNewcomb]

More coming soon!

[@lisabaker9036]

Very cool Joseph. The drone was a nice addition. Love Finney sooo much!

[@JosephNewcomb]

Lisa Baker so fun with the drone. I’m amazed how good he is with it.

[@seasands9644]

You are so adorable!! My cataracts were actin up in the beginning!!! lol Nice way to present what you wanted to illustrate. TY

[@JosephNewcomb]

Thank you!

[@jameswoodard6271]

I've studied and trained a lot with natural horsemanship. It's helped me with my dressage (not that I'm any good with either one). Not sure why there's a resistance to it in Dressage. Aren't they both about harmony and communication??

[@JosephNewcomb]

James Woodard I totally agree. In my mind they go together. Thank you for your comment.

[@llmcgrew1]

I want to understand how the horse translates his acceptance of your space bubble when he is under saddle. How do they accept the mental pressure of having a rider on their back but still respond to the physical pressure of your leg telling them to move away. Hope that makes sense!

[@francischoo1812]

Can you do this video with another horse that is less experienced than Fin? This will allow us to understand better what is the 'wrong' behaviour versus the correct one as shown in this video.

[@JosephNewcomb]

Yes. A few people have asked for this. I’ll also try to explain more about what I am doing. There is so much to talk about here.

[@brendawhite6540]

Beautiful Finny! 😀

[@JosephNewcomb]

brenda white isn’t he the best!

[@brendawhite6540]

Joseph Newcomb yes he is! I could just watch him stand there!! Beautiful ❤️❤️

[@Nezesty]

What do you use as a camera to record this beautiful video ?

[@waynemoody4821]

I'm also very interested in the video, love the close ups of the horse around 6m.00s. What did you use to shoot this please? The drone footage is a great idea too.

[@renaeboonstra54]

That was pretty