Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind is the Anti-Dune

#anime #miyazaki #dune
Have you ever thought to yourself, man this Dune movie is pretty good, but I wish it was an anime? Well, you're in luck cause Hayao Miyazaki answered that question back in 1984. Hope you all enjoy this new Miyazaki vid!
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[@SeruraRenge11]

>If Dune is so good, why isn't there a Dune 2? Uh...Dune Messiah?

[@timjongunproductions]

Shhhhh 🤫

[@pdzombie1906]

Also, why anything good needs, deserves or has to have a sequel?

[@nomadichippie1930]

And then the next 3 books and a bunch of follow-ups by the Herbert son

[@2jk89sx]

The movie Nausicaa was created as a teaser for Miyazaki's own manga of the same title. He had to pause his writing of said comic series to make sure the movie was released. In order to make a finished product for the people representing him to secure funding for the cinematic project he was expected to make a proper film with a conclusion and therefore had to alter the existing and yet-to-be finished story oh the Manga for the film, creating the movie we have today. The movie is a lovely visual and audio experience but after it's release Miyazaki went back to his manga, eventually finishing it years afterwards. The finished manga could easily beat the film in an arm wrestling contest with one hand behind it's back. In releasing the film Miyazaki opened himself to a wider world of critique and ideas that would allow him to evolve his existing ideas from when he started his story and polish them in a way that creates a narrative world and setting that is a triumph of the imagination. Anyone who wanted more from the film, or more from the world Miyazaki created, really should read the comics. They're exceptional and truly have so much more depth and nuance than the film could afford, with very drastic differences in many cases where the film had to rewrite or cut loose ends to make it meet in the middle. I really wish we could have gotten the manga version as a TV series. It's simply not possible for the story told there to fit into a single movie, at least not without serious losses to the details that make it stand out from it's peers. To say the very least: Dune had a huge impact on the setting, but the story is also heavily influenced by Tales of Earthsea and it's no coincidence that Ghibli attempted to adapt that story into an animation as well.

[@Lylantares]

I agree... the Nausicaä manga is possibly one of the best works of literature. It has so, so many layers and tackles so many topics of humanity. The anime covered maybe the first two books and gave them a definitive ending. The manga takes a totally different route and ends on a rather grey note for all of its characters. It makes the titular Nausicaä mature over the development of the story and make her ultimately a flawed but magnificent hero.

[@MatiasTercero3]

Great video. I used to dismiss Nausicaa as the inferior prototype to Princess Mononoke, and while Mononoke is better, this recent rewatch of Nausicaa made me realize how much thematic nuance it has to offer (as you mention, anti-war, the blinding effects of rage, and the threat of militaristic tyranny) and how the movie stands strong on its own. It’s also just a really cool movie with its characters, aesthetic, and music.

[@19Rena96]

Nausicaä is much better and fleshed out as Mononoke.

[@Briggadoon]

The manga: Yes! The movie: No!

[@Tony-up6rx]

I highly recommend reading the manga as it builds upon the movies story and fleshes out some characters better than the movie, especially Kushana. Imo the mangas superior to the movie.

[@w.s6124]

i actually consider nausicaä to be miyazakis magnum opus. Especially the manga.

[@Tony-up6rx]

@@w.s6124 same here. I even went out of my way to buy an out-of-print massive hardcover of the manga

[@TrueMakaveli50]

The manga for Nausicaa is amazing it’s genuinely one of my favorite stories of all time. It’s sad that there aren’t more videos about the manga on KZbin. It’s the one thing that makes me want to pick up the KZbin torch and make my own video on it. Edit: seriously the movie doesn’t even begin to tell the whole story. Kushana’s story specifically is so good. I honestly well up just thinking about it. I’d love to put quotes in here but that would only lessen their impact.

[@timjongunproductions]

Go for it man, I’d love to see it if you do end up making it! I definitely plan on reading the nausicaa manga tho, that’s high on my priority list, and who knows maybe I’ll make a video about it in the future.

[@TrueMakaveli50]

@@timjongunproductions I cannot recommend the manga more. If I ever can come to terms with how my voice sounds I will make the video lol

[@BlasphemousMoons]

I came to this video hopping to see more about the manga, I admit I was a bit disappointed. The anime is basically the first book and half of the second, there is so much more to say about Nausicaä. Her final choice in itself is very controversial, it's far from the messiah image the animé concluded with.

[@undead_corsair]

Nausicaa is one of the all time greats of manga, it should be mentioned in the same breath as Berserk, Vagabond or Akira but I think it must get overlooked because Miyazaki is known far more for his filmmaking. I remember reading it for the first time and being shocked by how epic and timeless the story felt, yet how little it is talked about. It's like the Lord of the Rings or the Star Wars of Manga in my mind.

[@George_M_]

Yeah manga Kushana is so good.

[@destinedtopixels3393]

Lost my shit when ghibli fest announced Nausicaä for this year, just saw it in theaters yesterday

[@timjongunproductions]

Glad you enjoyed it man, Ghibli Fest is truly a wonderful time

[@torenatkinson5708]

Seen is several times in the theater, it is the best way to experience it of course

[@Mrred11789]

This video is a culmination lol. I watched Naussica earlier this week with a friend who was their first time. I watched dune today with my dad and it was his first time. And I just find your video the same day. Great work man. The stars aligned

[@timjongunproductions]

That truly is a culmination! Well, glad to see you here man, happy that you enjoyed the video!

[@tkma1144]

The difference is Nausicaa don't believe in prophecy, she walks her own path while Paul believe too much in it and it restrict his path

[@HeribertoEstolano]

Paul doesn't believe in Prophecy either. He uses It to his advantage to achieve his goals knowingly that It was forged by the Bene Gesserit .

[@peteshap1]

the narrator sounds exactly like I would expect someone who was comparing and contrasting Dune and Nausicaa to sound like Edit solid analysis! fun video.

[@timjongunproductions]

Aww, this is really sweet of you to say, thank you so much, glad you enjoyed the vid!

[@theboivenom4170]

Bro I literally walked out the theater.

[@timjongunproductions]

Haha, right on time I see

[@schmitzkatzewupper]

I am born 1981 ... that movie was the movie of my childhood i can speak every sentence with the movie

[@Evan-pr3bf]

This feels pretty confined to the Dune movie. For instance, when it comes to the topic of environmentalism, in the movies we have yet to see the fremen Sietches. But looking at the books talk at length about the fremen's harmonious relationship with the land, converting numerous pockets into green oasises of biodiversity. I know that environmentalism isn't the topic of the video but I just think you'd find that they have quite similar messages when it comes to environmentalism. Also when it comes to Baron Harkonnen he isn't defined by evil as much as he's defined by greed and pragmatism. In the book, it goes to great lengths to illustrate the political power dynamics at play with each event in the story. Herbert specifically states that the emperor saw house Atreides as a rising threat to their power (because they were so good at being friends with the other houses) so they took Arrakis from the Harkonnens and gave it to Atreides. This makes the Harkonnens take it back so as to regain their primary money maker. This way the emperor takes down house Atreides without having to kill them himself. The Harkonnens are shown many times that they specifically can be reasoned with and that it is through reason and calculation that they arrive at their cruelty. When it comes to the violence aspect I would actually align Paul more with Princess Kushana. Paul in his messianic journey knows that his actions will kill millions but he is also trying to do the right thing for his people. He knows that his violence will beget more violence however inaction will also beget violence. This knowledge of the futility of fighting fire with fire plagues Paul heavily. I think the deeper you get into Dune the less surface level you'll find their similarity in terms of their message. None of this is really disagreeing more just there's some thematic nuance that's relevant here that was omitted from the movies for brevity. But I would really encourage you to read the first two (or more) Dune books cause you would def find them fascinating. Their primary thematic concern is the inescapability of cyclical power imbalance and its dehumanizing effects. good video tho👍, seems like the algo is liking this one.

[@timjongunproductions]

This is a really interesting comment, I’m really glad you shared this with me, definitely adds to the comparison. And yes I am being transparent when I say that this comparison is purely between their arcs from the movies, which I know doesn’t delve into the deeper deeper lore, but I figured what I have is a solid analysis anyway. I’ll definitely read the books at some point, who knows, I might update this vid with a follow up

[@konstantinriumin2657]

Fremen aren't exactly enviromentalists. They are enviromental engineers that destroy their enviroment in a massive terraforming campaign. They are masters of the nature And Harkonnens are portrayed as not only pragmatic, but deeply depraved, immoral people.

[@pseudonymousbeing987]

​@@timjongunproductionsI am absolutely certain you will want to update this after you read Dune and Dune Messiah. Or even after you watch Dune part 2.

[@user-do5zk6jh1k]

​@@timjongunproductionsAlso recommend you watch the original Dune movie from 1984. It's an odd one.

[@windsaw151]

I really wish to see a comparison of the Nausicaä manga with the Dune books. When I read the title thought it would be, because at least one or two aspects of both Dune and Nausicaä didn't materialize in the anime: The fact that Nausicaä herself becomes some sort of messiah figure to several groups of characters. That was only hinted at the end and done in a very heavyhanded sort of way. When it eventually happens in the manga, she and Paul couldn't be any more different when it comes to how this came to be. Even those who do not consider her a messiah figure are swept along with her. (Kushana and her henchman in particular) And then there is her unfortunate role as a mother figure to a living, radioactive weapon of mass destruction which could be explored comparing it to the abusive mother-child relationships in Dune. There is more.

[@ykreview]

LOL man I have never heard of this movie and watching this video i can see the similarity but i can def see how this is the anti-dune i def like the message that conflict can be resolved peaceful and is surprising, great video man

[@timjongunproductions]

Oh man, definitely check it out if my video at all peaked ur interests. It should be out in theaters on Tuesday in celebration for Ghibli Fest

[@shawnnelson8076]

Nausicaa is great, but that sure was an inefficient way to say didn't you read or understand Dune.

[@Vulcanerd]

Dude, I was happily listening to your video, nodding along in agreement and then, at the end, you pulled out a, San is just a better Nausicaa in every way and I shouted, "WHAT!?" How dare you, Sir! How. Dare. You.

[@CookieColt]

I always saw the Harkonnens as consumed by their vices. They know no loyalty as the Baron fears even his closest kin/allies and knows their vices to manipulate and have control over them. He deliberately keeps his mentat addicted to spice while being in control of the supply etc. The Baron is the opposite of Paul. Whom learns to control his impulses and overcome his fear. Despite being in power the Baron is drenched in neurotic thoughts and paranoia. He can't trust anyone and he has to assert power and dominance wherever he can to feel safe. He does this by resorting to crude machiavellian tactics. As life gives him nothing but the despair of his own mind and conciousness. While Paul faces the depths of his psyche with space LSD. And thus he lives as to become a man true to himself.

[@vincentbatten4686]

A man who starts a genocide equivalent to a thousand Holocausts in the name of peace.

[@pseudonymousbeing987]

Yeah Dune is about the human body and mind. The Harkonnens aren't evil. They're gluttony.

[@Emanon...]

Your analysis is sound if you only look at the first Dune book. The latter Dune books are themselves "anti-Dune" with regards to the messages and characters of the first book. Thats why they're considered a staple of classic sci-fi, not because of the classic "hero's journey" tale from the first book...

[@timjongunproductions]

Gotcha, that’s fascinating, I’m only familiar with the first Dune book’s story through movies and friends, so I wasn’t super knowledgeable about the Dune sequels aside from some general points. Thanks for letting me know

[@CookieColt]

Well technically the first one is also a subversion of the heros journey as we learn that the Bene Gesserit planted the idea of the Messiah long ago as a political power play. Though I could be wrong because I can't remember if it's in the first book. Though it is how Paul gained favor with the fremen.

[@Emanon...]

@@timjongunproductions They are among my favourite books (the F. Herbert ones, anyway...) and imho a must read for any sci fi fan.

[@Emanon...]

@@CookieColt Of course, but considering the short time dedicated to the comparison in this video, I didnt want to muddy the waters. One thing I think we can all agree on is that peace doesnt solve any issues in Dune 😉

[@nomadichippie1930]

Something I’ve picked up when reading dune is that the Harkonnen were schemers. They had plans within plans when it came to the destruction of house Atraides, the used the emperors soldiers with theirs so that the empires hands were bloody too, the other great houses would be easy to rally if the new the empire was attacking its subjects. The war was also costly to the Harkonnens, it was a way the empire could weaken them enough not to become too strong they would be a threat, (spoilers) Paul learns he’s harkonnen himself before meeting the fremen and says “we shall be Harkonnen as well” I felt like this meant he was going to use this prophecy and rally the firemen to fight for him, but the ego death of the life water made him realize how big his role was

[@SupaKoopaTroopa64]

The manga draws even more elements from Dune, but also makes the thematic difference between the two stories more clear: Nausicaa rejects godhood. There's an outcast tribe (The descendants of Ohmu hunters) who live in the jungle and follow Nausicaa as a messiah, even acting as her personal bodyguards. Nausicaa is one of only a few humans who still possess the telepathic powers of the ancients, allowing here to communicate with ohmu, the god warrior, and other telepaths. She is also allowed to enter a secret garden which contains the archives of ancient humanity. Various artificial lifeforms offer her the chance to become one of the ancient super-humans and lead humanity and nature down the path of rebuilding. However, unlike Paul, Nausicaa rejects this status as a god amongst men, even though it would benefit humanity greatly. Another thing to note is that the ending of Princess Mononoke is nearly identical to the ending of the Nausicaa manga. The only difference being that Ashitaka didn't intentionally kill the forest spirit to free the forest from its control (even if it is using its powers for good). The core theme of the Nausicaa manga is that no one (human or artificial lifeform) should act as a god.

[@tankguy5312]

These individuals especially IRL shouldn't be treated as "Messiahs/Gods" wheter they are good, bad or flawed characters. These are just people trying to find a purpose to their own lives despite their own struggles. Unfortunately humanity will always find a cheap trick to move on to the afterlife.

[@Schellnino1994]

That David Lynch misdirect at the beginning made me LOL

[@hansibub3361]

You really put in to words why I love this movie better than I could've done myself, great video.

[@timjongunproductions]

Hey man, happy you enjoyed it! And thanks for saying this, it’s good to know I’m doing my job :)

[@leonlai8270]

The movie is ending with everyone calling nausicca Lisan al gaib

[@aryaman1251]

note that i havent yet read the dune sequels, but in the sequels paul himself becomes the ultimate destroyer of the universe, killing 61 billion people directly or in his name, the reason why the harkonnens are shown as purely evil is because it misdirects our attention from paul, who we see as the good guy, but in the background the seeds of his evilness are sown even in the first book but despite that, i think its pretty great comparison of the two medias

[@timjongunproductions]

Oh wow, that’s pretty fascinating. I’m really excited to check out the Dune sequels as well, thanks for informing me about this. It definitely puts Paul into perspective. Glad you still enjoyed the video tho!

[@Woj90]

(spoilers ahead) Yeah but you're leaving out the part about how he knows that if he chose inaction then it would eventually lead to the total extinction of the human race and that he's so torn with guilt over the billions who had to die to save the trillions that come after that he eventually walks off into the desert to die because of it.

[@christopherterry9665]

@@timjongunproductions I assume you haven't read the manga version of Nausicaa as well, she also does something morally ambiguous later which has some parallel with Dune (or depending how you see it, is the opposite of Dune yet again). Maybe you can read both and do a followup video next time! If you do read the Nausicaa manga, you should start from the beginning because there are some things which are very different.

[@pseudonymousbeing987]

I wish people didn't talk about Dune spoilers so completely cavalierly. These books are so much more effective when the reader actually has to think for themselves, which is the ENTIRE fucking point. But people insist on giving no warning about spoiling the CENTRAL PILLAR of the entire story which is that your perspective changes through them.

[@Falconi510]

Just rewatched the movie and I was noticing these parallels as well

[@-Siculus-Hort-]

this is my most favorite of all. i LOVE this movie.

[@thenewnostalgia]

Good video. Commenting to boost.

[@alexcabbott]

Nice analysis! Just watched nausicaa at ghiblifest. Great film

[@timjongunproductions]

I should preface right now that regarding the argument that I make in this video, I only focused on the character arcs that both Paul and Nausicaa go through in their respective MOVIES because I find the divergence between the two in terms of their relationship with war and violence to be fascinating and make for a great contrast. I have not read the entire Dune series (aside from the plot synopsis of the first one) or the Nasuicaa manga and am only familiar with the movies, but I didn't feel like that extra knowledge was relevant to what I was hyper-focusing on anyway even if I was familiar, which is why I emphasized on the movies and not the books/manga they are based on. You are free to inform me about the greater Dune universe and how it may possibly enhance, coincide with, or even contradict/oppose the argument that I make (I very much want you guys to continue the discussion in the comments section), but this is very much an argument made from a guy who watched both movies way too many times lol.

[@billmdt]

In the books, violence is seen as bad, but necessary Paul and then his son Leto, both unleash violence on a massive scale, and both hate to do it, but the message in the end is that violence and war are good for humanity as a whole, forcing growth... So even more distance from Mishasaky. Also, on environmentalism, in Dune the changes to the environment are seen from the lense of how they affect people, not the environment itself. From Mishasaky´s perspective the plan to transform Dune into a verdant land would be seen as violent, because it causes the death of the Shaid Hulud.

[@SeruraRenge11]

The Dune Series is primarily a manifesto by Herbet on the dangers of putting your faith in a messianistic figure that will seemingly solve all your problems. To the Fremen, Paul is like a living god, but he's not a god, he just possesses limited vision of the future. And that utter devotion to not an ideal but a man, turns the Fremen into a holy army that inflcits their jihad (the word the book uses, not me) on the galaxy killing 60,000,000,000 people. He knew this was going to happen, but he couldn't stop it, because you can't change the future in Dune, what you see is what's going to happen, and that terrifies Paul that he has such a future. There's a scene in Messiah where Paul is pondering all of this with Chani, and he tells her that mathematically, he is 10,000 times worse than Hitler is compared purely by body count.

[@Jokaanan]

you don't have to be defensive, your video is awesome and speaks for itself

[@vincentbatten4686]

I see. It probably doesn't help that Nausicaa is a complete narrative in it's movie, and Dune by Denis Villeneuve is only half of the narrative.

[@TheVashekCZ]

I can't get over how you pronounce Nausicaa. 😂 Great vid though.

[@wmd40]

Nausicaa and Dune are both too cool and too good to be good movies or books if that makes sense lol. I love them both so much but I still understand why there's so many issues with all the adaptations of each. But the worlds built are still extremely awesome and fascinating but so hard to get out of the mind and onto paper or film right imho.

[@timjongunproductions]

I know what you mean, sometimes a universe is so rich and expansive that sometimes a movie doesn’t really do it justice

[@West.the.general10181]

But also Nausicaä is a S tier film try to change my mind I dare you

[@ZekealllBeroke]

4:50 on page 200 something of the big ass version of the nausicaa the ending of the film with her dancing in that big grass is far from the end god damn mass manufacturing ohmus

[@sinjinreed2091]

The biggest difference that I can see between _Dune_ and _Nausicaa_ is their approaches to the concept of a messiah-Herbert was *very* critical of the idea and wrote his book as a giant treaty against putting your faith into a would-be savior (that’s not to say the book is anti-religion per say-I don’t think Herbert was an atheist-but it was critical of deifying regular people who often have their own agendas). Miyazaki on the other hand plays the messiah completely straight (and for double irony, he is _not_ religious and would’ve changed it if someone told him), with Nausicaa literally dying a hero and a savior for the world and being brought back to life.

[@nickporter574]

i love this film. it might be my fave of his

[@timjongunproductions]

It’s actually a lower tier Miyazaki film for me personally, but I love it nonetheless as well

[@nneo3231]

@@timjongunproductions What?? low-tier?? I've not watched Boy and the Heron yet but this is the best Miyazaki movie for me personally not the best Ghibli that spot obviously goes to Only yesterday by Takahata Isao

[@West.the.general10181]

Idk why humanity did just hide underground to survive an Ohm stampede like uhhhhh I don't think they could go underground

[@nkbujvytcygvujno6006]

Like uhhhh use your brain they probably didn't have a lot of time to make effective tunnels before being run down and the shallow tunnels and shelter they did make were destroyed, duh being dumb on purpose doesn't mean you owned the movie it just makes you look dumb trying to find plot holes

[@SlothFang]

Just wanted to say this was an interesting video, but PLEASE look into setting up a noise gate and other mic filters.

[@solalabell9674]

Me reading both at once

[@beitophfongfu]

There are more than 12 Dune Books, actually.

[@milo_thatch_incarnate]

This is something I've always sadly disagreed with Miyazaki about. I understand that his traumatic past made him into the passivist he is now, but I don't think it's true that violence -- and even war -- is always wrong and unnecessary. I think it's justified when you're protecting your family and your people. Sometimes war IS necessary. I'm not saying that the wars in Nausicaa and Dune are justified -- that's worth debating -- but complete 100% passivism isn't practical OR moral, I don't think.

[@TheReneg4de]

great vid but need to work on the audio, your microphone is buzzing and you are a tad bit too loud.

[@timjongunproductions]

Thank you, and thanks for letting me know! I’m using a very old laptop to record and edit and I’ll be getting a new one very soon, so hopefully the quality will also be better

[@TheReneg4de]

@@timjongunproductions Keep it up, you have a knack for this.

[@torenatkinson5708]

Was going to say the same thing. It's a bit hard to listen to. Adjust your mic sensitivity and back off a bit, should fix the problem.

[@timjongunproductions]

Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind!

[@michakoodziej5741]

Dune does not glorify the violence at all. And Paul is not a hero, he is antihero. Herbert wrote Dune to warn people from charismatic and violent “heroes” as Paul.

[@MrTakin00]

Nausica literally killed the men in her dads room in the opening

[@ccengineer5902]

That's deliberate for her character development, it showed Nausicaa to be capable of violence in both physical ability and in her mind, to hate enough to kill...but ultimately she regretted it, enough to avoid it in the future, even at the risk of her own life.

[@alexross9150]

It’s made clear that the author intends for the viewer to want to embody the actions of Nausicaä, while definitely NOT to replicate the actions of Paul. Love both of these!! I immediately felt the similarities while watching Part 1 in theaters with the failed environmental experiments under the desert

[@EeliusAstaroth]

Miyazaki is a great writer, and Studio Ghibli really lost a great producer when he retired. Something about Dune, despite the similarities, just didn't stick with me. Had an ex determined I watch all the old school movies, and it took forever. Even then, I remember 0% of it in contrast to Nausicaa which I learned to play some of the music on an ocarina I loved it so much ♥️ forget the newer Dune movies, too, cause all the new remakes I've come across suck really bad. Mild exceptions are pre/sequel like movies that pay homage to the older movies well, which are maybe a handful of movies out of the plethora of crap. Miyazaki is just enviornmentalist friendly in general. You can find it in everything he creates. It's also not surprising Princess Mononoke is better in that regard because 1.) The plot is more in the past and therefore friendlier in contrast to new-age tech you see in the dystopian world of Nausicaa (there's a theory he's set his movies within the same universe so that's a fun thought. Especially when it comes to Nausicaa and Laputa which is technically set in the future, but still years before Nausicaa ever came about- the warriors look the same, they still have fox squirrels, and supposedly Laputa is a tiny easter egg in Nausicaa), and 2.) PM was released later in 1997 whereas Nausicaa was written way back in the 80's finally becoming it's own film in 1984 despite the manga not being finished until 1994. Usually, I find movies/tv series also aren't the same if the book itself is still on going. Just leaves something to be desired when there's vital key points missing from either.

[@vincentbatten4686]

I'm endlessly fascinated by the fact that most people don't seem to understand Dune at all. People don't seem to understand that Paul isn't a hero, and that Herbert condemned the idea of glorified violence and Paul is meant to be a warning against what will happen when we do so. Perhaps, if more people read Dune Messiah, where this is made more explicit, then it would have landed more people. It seems Dune was too subtle for most people to understand it's theme and message.

[@ekaterinashershneva5262]

I don’t know how I got there, but it’s a gem 💎 Thank you

[@timjongunproductions]

Hey, regardless of how you got here, just happy that you’re here!

[@souilik2363]

❤❤❤

[@WeAreLegion-]

There is a Dune 2...?

[@timjongunproductions]

Yeah, it was called The Sandman, by Stan Lee

[@yewknight]

There were sequels to Dune.

[@Daniel-wu6pl]

pagite? tol'mechkkeyans? NOWSICKA? No. i appreciate your attempts but pegite (pedjite) tolmekians (toll me key ans) and nausicaa (nawh sick aa)

[@Creatureofclay]

Princess Mononoke is better than the nausicaä movie but the manga blows them both out of the water. It’s my favorite story/ world Miyazaki has created and I don’t even really read manga. you should really give it a read you won’t regret it.

[@danielhavens8819]

personally I think it's more apt to say Nausicaa is an anti-Paul, rather than Nausicaa and the Valley of the Wind is an anti-Dune. You're absolutely correct about how Paul goes about being a messiah through violence whereas nausicaa uses pacifism. But that doesn't mean Dune is pro-violence, revenge, etc., quite the opposite really. Paul is the protagonist and we sympathize with him but ultimately the book characterizes his actions as horrific and villainous. Even though his motivations are generally good and justified, I think the moral of Dune is that it would have been better for him to act more like nausicaa.

[@pol565-gi6il]

Nausicaa >>>>

[@HeribertoEstolano]

Nausica It's the Anti-shalow interpretation of Dune Ya'll keep insisting in doing it.

[@budakbaongsiah]

but but the manga is Japan's version of Dune

[@jdranetz]

Why doesn't she seem to have not pants. Au natural.

[@pseudonymousbeing987]

Lmao its hilarious how your joke about Dune 2 is what half of the comments are discussing what with the fact that the deeper Dune story and sequels would give you content for multiple more videos on this comparison.

[@Redacted_zt]

Nausicaa>Mononoke

[@GrandTerr]

Miyazaki is a type of guy who believes his fantasies work in the real world. The guy really dislikes usa which brought the most peaceful era in history of humanity and idiolizes past times which had you know, pretty bad stuff committed by people including japanese

[@snarfbomber298]

Is it just me or is everyone getting nausicaa adverts ? HBO paying for this?

[@timjongunproductions]

I wish HBO was paying for this video lol

[@snarfbomber298]

@@timjongunproductions considering I’m about to get a subscription now so I can watch it they really should be!

[@justdonnie]

the matrix and the terminator are prequels to dune'

[@timjongunproductions]

Plz elaborate

[@horuslupercalaurelian1569]

Dune isn't that Good, it is Good, but when compared to 40k it's weak sauce. 40k is Spicy yet flavorful. It has texture and it isnt runny and loosely created. It was designed to continue and have a nearly endless universe spanning story and conflicts. Dune failed in a few things when it comes to this. Buttlerian Jihad? Compare the names and conflicts to, The Fall of Cadia, or the Horus Heresy, or the Age of Strife that has about thousands of stories where the Dune timeline could fit, a hundred times. Nausicaa focuses on one section of the planet. But even from this you can make the imagination grow and continue to expand the possibilities of the story.

[@vincentbatten4686]

Lmao, this is the most 40K fan take. Definitely based.

[@The-xp4xj]

what a dumb title

[@useyowords9745]

Staunch pacifist. Proceeds to make movie honoring the man that made japans best weapon of war

[@harrybriggs2586]

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