Naval Training Put To Use | The Crown (Claire Foy, Vanessa Kirby)

Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (Matt Smith), discusses taking a detour off-course after saving a stranded fisherman. Though not everyone is in agreeance, Philip insists it is important to bring the man home.
From Season 2, Episode 2: A Company of Men
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The Crown is based on Queen Elizabeth II as a young newlywed faced with leading the world's most famous monarchy while forging a relationship with legendary Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill. The British Empire is in decline, and the political world is in disarray, but a new era is dawning. Peter Morgan's masterfully researched scripts reveal the Queen's private journey behind the public façade with daring frankness. Prepare to see into the coveted world of power and privilege behind the locked doors of Westminster and Buckingham Palace.
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[@SegaRihdan]

"Sir, Command falls to the flag officer." "Sir, Who's flag is that exactly? That's what I thought."

[@ZannNewman]

it's the implication he could demote the the guy and assume command of the ship but doesn't want to have to

[@exakelgaming]

it's called the "royal" navy for a reason. 🤣😂

[@stepdad1391]

@@exakelgaming yes but its still a breach of the ORBAT chain of command.

[@icewinddale2675]

Flag of the democratically elected government.

[@Autofleet4429]

@@icewinddale2675 The White Ensign, Flag of “His/Her Majesties Royal Navy” to whom the monarch is the Command-in-Chief, the prime ministers exercise the powers of CIC on behalf of the monarch so as not to burden them and to shield them from political fallout of any decisions made involving the Armed Forces, however the monarch retains full authority over the governance, command and control of the Armed Forces if he/she decides to do so. All officers, rating and other-ranks, swear an oath solely to the monarch and their heirs no-one else, sworn by oath to fellow all orders given by the monarch and all officers and admirals set over them. Prince Phillip held the rank of “Admiral of the Fleet” in “substantive” meaning officially with all powers privilege and authority of that rank, and was an active officer of the Royal Navy at that time (in fact he remained an active officer on the books till the day he died) and as declared in the Queen’s Regulations (the rules that govern the Royal Navy) he was the ranking officer on that ship, in fact under the Queen’s regulations he was the ranking officer in the whole Royal Navy.

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

Philip deadass called that dude a POG in front of the entire officers' mess.

[@HowieHoward-ti3dx]

What is a POG?

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

@@HowieHoward-ti3dx Person Other than Grunt. It's a derogatory term used by combat units, generally infantry, to describe rear echelon and staff positions. In this case, because the flag officer in question was on "shore duty" compared to a combat position like Philip's.

[@DeeEight]

@@HowieHoward-ti3dx REMF in other branches.

[@jonnyh9388]

The Ward Room. Not the Officer's Mess.

[@Dabhach1]

@@TheNerdForAllSeasons It was originally US Marine slang for a homosexual.

[@carrickrichards2457]

In 1941 Lieutenant Philip Mountabtten RN joined the battleship HMS Valiant, which took part in the Battle of Matapan off the coast of Greece. His ship, with others, engaged 2 Itallian Heavy Cruisers, at night, at point blank range, and sank them both. He was Mentioned in Despatches

[@ArenBerberian]

I beleve he was the one manning one of the searchlights which lit up the Italian ships.

[@Ocker3]

@@ArenBerberian surely a cushy job, not at all in danger of being shot at because of their tactical value in helping the guns fire accurately. Hardly worth mentioning really old chap ;)

[@WanderingWriter91]

​@@Ocker3cushy job? No tactical value? If you're fighting a naval battle at night and the only thing giving away your position is the enemy spotlights what would you aim for with at least some of your guns or small arms?

[@woodelfproductions]

I think the ;) implied that the comment was joking/being sarcastic

[@ered203]

@@Ocker3 All in a days work. Yes?

[@Bob-lq8wr]

That is exactly how royal privilege is properly used

[@icewinddale2675]

Disgusting he should've never abused his power.

[@zackr1896]

@@icewinddale2675 said like a complete muppet

[@dat581]

@@icewinddale2675 I'm a military officer who serves the same crown. Prince Phillip acted completely properly and the Admiral certainly did not. The heartless actions he intended to take turned him into nothing more than a feather duster.

[@bravotwozero]

@@icewinddale2675to help a poor shipwrecked man? I don’t care for the royal family, but a good deed is a good deed

[@seanmalone2372]

@@zackr1896

[@woollygoat8921]

Prince Phillip was a legitimate war hero. He served in the Royal Navy from 1939 (as a Cadet) to 1945, going to sea in active service from 1941 until the end of the war (he was in Tokyo Bay when the Japanese surrendered). He served on board the HMS Valiant, and was the first lieutenant (XO) of the HMS Wallace and the HMS Whelp.

[@TheSegert]

🤣😆

[@Particus]

I doubt he saw any real danger or combat.

[@Fragileone1]

@@Particus He was on HMS Valiant during the Battles of Crete and Cape Matapan, both hardly safe. Then when he transferred to destroyers was involved in convoy duty, hardly safe again, and then the invasion of Sicily and later operations around Sicily. Again not a desk job. All part of public record and a 20 second google shows it.

[@thethingsthatstopyoudreami1450]

Prince Phillip was no bitch, he was certainly an overprivileged as*hole but he was a brave man.

[@Mackinstyle]

Good news: if you care to be part of those who want to know and believe in reality, it's very easy to research this one. @@Particus

[@christoffellner84]

If that scene happened so, my respect for Philip just rose immensely.

[@connorkilgour3374]

it did happen.

[@randomaccount-dq1jq]

​@@connorkilgour3374Source?, most i see say its entirely bollocks and that Vice-Admiral Sir Conolly Abel Smith was a respected combatant of both world wars.

[@The_Daily_Tomato]

I've been doing some light checking online and i cannot find a single credible source mentioning it. It's a nice scene to be sure but is almost certainly fictional.

[@s.wvazim6517]

It happened not only that this dude in WW2 this guy took on 2 Italian navy cruises with nothing more then a spotlight and he won !!!

[@sulphur77777]

source?@@s.wvazim6517

[@andrueurbane7361]

An exceptional scene by all the actors involved. Matt Smith is amazing here. You can see the wheels moving in his eyes as the dialogue unfolds. He recognizes each move in the conversation, knowing there is an escalated response until he nods to the other officer at the bar, signaling to all that the checkmate has arrived. Watch this scene with the sound off. Watch the eyes of each actor. Pay attention to the actor smoking at the bar. Nothing is lost without the sound. The physical layer carries it all through, reinforcing it with each subtle movement.

[@blaster915]

Great analysis! Gonna use this to teach in theatre class

[@joeyfitz9]

I love how the guy at the bar walks past the Flag Officer and gives him a look of "Game over. Don't get up, don't say anything. There's a good lad."

[@Kevin-forcescholar]

The first two seasons of the crown proves that Matt Smith would kill it in his role as Daemon Targaryen.

[@Jackman1st]

There similarities between the two 😂 princes who were war heroes that married monarchs

[@carlhicksjr8401]

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the difference between 'leading' and 'managing'. By every account I've heard of, Phillip was an effective commander of warships in the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian and Pacific Oceans. There is a huge difference between the get-dirty troops [generic term for all services] and the born-to-be-middle-management types at the corporation level. You serve WITH the first and you serve UNDER the second.

[@Kevin-mx1vi]

I was privileged to know the broadcaster and writer William Holt in his later years. He knew Prince Philip personally and spoke highly of his no-nonsense approach to how a man should behave. He was an achiever who didn't stand on ceremony and instinctively knew what was the right thing to do, so while this event may or may not have actually happened, I think it's a good example of how he might have reacted to the situation.

[@carlhicksjr8401]

@@DM-ur8vc OK, I'm not a veteran of the Royal Navy, so I'm speaking only from what I've read here. As I understand it, there is a lot more leeway in the RN about what goes on in the officer's mess than in the USN. The tradition is for the mess to be 'open air arena' for discussions, disputes, and social maneuvering that a system with social classes like the UK seems to require. Supposedly, it's not unusual for fairly junior officers to call out their leadership or demand explanations that would be career-ending in the USN. If all that is true, then it's there's a possibility that this conversation may well have happened in front of 'God and everybody'. A pissing match like this could have been that CO's semi-official notice that he wasn't getting knighted and he may as well turn his retirement papers in as soon as they get ashore.

[@claremontcowboy7409]

@@carlhicksjr8401 This is a fictional event. It never happened. You are reading far too much into an episode of The Crown - which is not a documentary. As it happened, the 'CO' was a highly successful Vice-Admiral who already had a Knighthood.

[@RK-um9tu]

Wrong. That is a prefect example of an effective manager. Leaders just talk. Managers follow through.

[@carlhicksjr8401]

@@RK-um9tu Clearly you and I have had different experiences with managers.

[@northamericanintercontinen3207]

So an Vice Admiral tried to outrank and outsmart an Admiral of the Fleet who’s an actual war hero ? What an idiot.

[@lcplaztec]

It's a little bit more complicated than that. Phillip's rank of Admiral of the Fleet was granted to him when Elizabeth was crowned Queen, and it was technically in the Royal New Zealand Navy, not THE Royal Navy. Prior to that, his highest rank in active service was Commander. Not only that, long standing tradition is that the Captain of a ship is the absolute final word, regardless of rank. While a higher rank can issue an order to that Captain, refusal to follow it wouldn't in practice constitute an automatic crime of failing to follow a direct order ESPECIALLY in a non-critical situation like this. In fact, the higher rank would lose a ton of respect for usurping the tradition of command. Phillip is basically saying that he knows that he is unable to usurp command because of tradition (all the moreso because his "real" rank is less than the admiral's) and still be considered in the right, so he is *strongly suggesting* that the Admiral commanding THE Royal Vessel do the thing that his wife, the monarch, would probably want done.

[@stepdad1391]

@@lcplaztec u should tell this to everyone else in this comment section lmao

[@joeyfitz9]

@@lcplaztec Brilliant comment! Thank you very much!

[@jesusthroughmary]

@@lcplaztec He was gifted the rank of Admiral of the Fleet in the UK in 1953, in Australia in 1954, and in New Zealand in 1958.

[@nationeer]

"Remind me, who's the royal again?" "You are Sir" "And who's crown is on your shoulder pads, the Royal Navy insignia, and your mail again?" "Sigh, your wife's Sir" "Well, tell you what Flag Officer, you're an ambitious man, why don't you decide what we do?" "I think we should return back" "Good decision"

[@pplesandoranges]

GREENLAND?!

[@user-ji5hb8wl4b]

​@@pplesandorangeswhatever! 😂

[@KevinNerfs]

@@user-ji5hb8wl4bDas ist Nümberwang!

[@ered203]

"Have no fear my good man, a Prince arrives with the Royal Navy to rescue you, and return you to your home and family." I always thought about that with William as well. He was an active rescue helicopter pilot for the Royal Coast Guard. "Have no worries, citizen. Your Prince is here! Make thee way and I shall commence with thy rescue at sea."

[@squaddie67]

No such thing as the Royal Coast Guard. There is HM Coast Guard, a largely civilian organisation. William flew Search and Rescue helicopters with the Royal Air Force and later, after he had served in the RAF and the RAF no longer carried out the SAR role, he took a role as a volunteer with East Anglian Air Ambulance.

[@ered203]

@@squaddie67 Excellent. Now I know this. It would still be cool to be rescued by a prince.

[@pogo1140]

@@ered203 How would you feel about a prince playing missile bait for you and your ship? During the Falklands war, Prince Andrew flew Helicopters and part of their job was to present a large enough target that the Argentinian missiles would go after the helo's instead of the ships.

[@HeartTheBacon]

"Boys, the commonwealth just got another Island " XD

[@Ocker3]

It is the kind of thing that countries should be doing to help out people in situations like this, goes a long way towards creating positive bonds rather than being selfish and isolationist!

[@gabespiro8902]

@@Ocker3I agree, I feel like the world would be better if countries acted in the vein of “how can I help?” Instead of “how does it benefit me?”

[@JohnSmith-yf5vy]

The whole trip was lowkey the ultimate boys trip lol

[@huttona3]

That long look Mike gave the flag officer…❤

[@Sku11Leader]

The only gripe I have is that conversation should have happened behind closed doors. Philip should have given his command to the captain and allowed the captain to pass it off as his own idea.

[@crumdoggy]

Agreed. He would not done this in front of other sailors or officers.

[@MesaperProductions]

@@crumdoggy If the Admiral chose to have the conversation in the wardroom rather than his quarters, then it being in front of other officers in ENTIRELY on the Admiral. He chose the field and lost.

[@weirdshibainu]

Although Philips more boorish behavior is unforgivable ( after all he knew who he was marrying) I imagine that role would have been very difficult, especially given the Queens reaction when she's watching film footage where Philip is on the tour and he's legitimately enjoying himself, particularly in the Antarctic. Say what you want about him, but he was robust compared to the the "mustaches" he was surrounded by at the Palace.

[@wierdalien1]

Like what?

[@weirdshibainu]

@@DM-ur8vc Publicly and serially cheating on your wife? Especially knowing that divorce is out of the question for her? Yeah, unforgivable

[@rohanrodrigues7115]

@@weirdshibainu really? You're going through the tabloids again?

[@spitzfire1107]

Although not a fan of Royal Family. But Prince Philip character is truly Badass for a Royal in his era.

[@Wixxarion]

Daemon really benefited from his alliance with the Sea Snake after the war against the Triarchy.

[@trombz2007]

Umm.. wheres my boy Caraxes at? 🤔

[@keithrose6931]

My dad was a stoker on HMS Valiant during the war, then went on to serve on HMS Hotspur .

[@theDoctorwitTardis]

Okay, I knew making jokes of the Navy being gay was a thing, but DAMN those uniforms are fabulouuuus!!

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

Imagine being from fucking England and spending weeks if not months in the tropics, the South Pacific and fucking Africa. Of course they wear white with baggy shorts. They'd literally fucking die of heatstroke.

[@jerrybarnes6611]

Yes fabulous baggy shorts displaying skinny white knees and then they jump into the sea, shoes, socks and all to bring the boat to shore. Well done boys!

[@vernonrabbetts]

That is one of those conversations that everyone in the bar very, very studiously under zero circumstances whatsoever heard a single word of. Even the bit that made them wince afterwards...

[@117rebel]

The guy pretending to be in charge was lucky he wasn’t flogged.

[@stepdad1391]

he was in charge, the prince wasnt.

[@user-zm8ig9ku4g]

I could listen to Matt Smith read the weather hes going on to very big things career wise

[@roundlake96]

If a royal ask you for a favor and you have the chance to make it happen why would you not? Even more so then its Philip the Duke of Edinburgh. Gone but not forgotten.

[@josephpadula2283]

The captain is in charge of the ship But unless the orders from above , SOPA senior officer present afloat , endanger the ship , and this order to turn did not , you obey !

[@kimbo1521]

How can that captain say no to a beard like Prince Philip's?

[@treydixon5399]

At this point, I'd watch Matt Smith in a deodorant commercial. Because he'd find a way to make it great.

[@TheCaptScarlett]

If only to get a look at his armpits

[@WillScarlet16]

Does anyone else think with the beard, he looks a lot like Harry?

[@nickvstheuniverse]

yea i need to start watching this show again haha

[@nobody-vo7ei]

doing the right thing. a rare thing, rarer by the minute.

[@joeyfitz9]

Not for the Royal Navy.

[@sohammitra8657]

Now imagine, Prince Philip then planted the flag and said, "In the name of the King of England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland, I claim this land as the colony and the property of the Crown."

[@alphaviki7987]

I mean from the tatoos I'd say he was Maori or somewhere from Polynesia, so they probably already owned it

[@jnauttube]

I absolutely loved this scene.

[@redfullmoon]

1:24 oof that's gotta hurt

[@billykid9684]

Deamon still tripping in harrenhall i guess.

[@Irish2050]

This actor playing Philip should be playing a *YOUNG MARCO PIERRE WHITE*

[@dkchen]

At least they got people that sound like their speaking Tongan.

[@vulpes7079]

You absolutely didn't try with the subtitles, did you?

[@V.B.Squire]

RIP SIR! EDIT! Do they still throw Spears at each other? 😅

[@kerrijohnstone7588]

I don’t think this could be - ADML of the FLEET is ONLY utilised in Tim’s of war

[@gildor8866]

According to Wikipedia Philip had that rank since 1953

[@jet.f]

Obviously, it was one of many royal appointments Philip has taken on since he became Prince Consort. As monarch, QE2 could make such appointment to anyone she wished to, i.e. most senior members of the Royal Family. The promotion of Admiral of the Fleet for flag officers who were active during wartime existed as a convention. For Philip, it was a consolation prize for his now-non-existent naval career when Elizabeth became Queen, and him becoming Prince Consort.

[@jasonkoch3182]

@@jet.f Philip was never prince consort. He was HR The Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh and at this point in the timeline, he was simply HRH The Duke of Edinburgh.

[@Autofleet4429]

The Royal Navy Regularly promoted Flag-Officers to the Rank of “Admiral of the Fleet” up until 1995. Prince Phillip held the Rank in substantive I.e. officially with all the power, authority and privileges there In, so as far as any Officer in His/Her Majesty's Armed Forces is concerned, he is the Admiral of the Fleet. He could of issued an official order to the Admiral and he would both legally and politically have no choice but to follow it.

[@mattheww2797]

Only in the US, in the UK the Monarch holds that rank and Elizabeth bestowed it on her husband, the Duke

[@sadjaxx]

Well. That's him (flag officer) told.

[@RAXOR06]

Amazing scene indeed, I just can't unhear the part 2:49 -"Is your fucking my?"

[@puppylove422]

You sensed, Sharks, how exciting! -Brittney Lee Hill Collier, Monday, December, 4th, 2023. 1:13 p.m.

[@AlMaghreb.]

Bro why do you keep removing the score from the scenes?

[@SaltyCanadian]

copyright

[@fuddi_7]

I’m from Tajikistan 🇹🇯 😊

[@ayw5118]

COOL! do you wanna go home?

[@RustyPetterson]

Most local Man United fan lol

[@aquitaineq]

If this was real, where would the Island be in real life?

[@irisjanemay1903]

I wonder if this is the island where he is worshipped as a god. Yes, there is an island that does.

[@faithlesshound5621]

The island of Tanna in the Republic of Vanuatu? It's unlikely they went all the way there to film.

[@tokyochannel2020]

No evidence such a scene ever happened, one of the liberties of a tv show. 1. The Prince would of had this conversation in private quarters not in front of other men, fictionalized of course for TV, 2. Vice-Admiral Sir Conolly Abel Smith had a distinguished military career, serving in both world wars , he was onboard HMS Courageous when it was sunk by a German U-Boat, losing half the ship's crew, served in command positions on carriers and mentioned in dispatches. This scene makes it look like he did nothing but desk work, of course a dead man cannot defend himself from the writers of a tv drama.

[@AustralianProletarianParty]

Interesting that those British flags don’t have the st Patrick cross on it.

[@AmericasChoice]

Could it be reserved for warships?

[@dominicbuckley8309]

Also the boats are too small to be the Montague whalers used by the RN at that time and are in the wrong livery for use on the RY (should be dark Britannia blue). And the ensigns would be worn at the stern, not the bow. I suspect the film company borrowed a few rowing boats from another production (possibly Outlander or Banished), and hoped nobody would spot the 18th century anachronisms.

[@AmericasChoice]

@@dominicbuckley8309 typical of recent TV/Movie productions. What about the the lack of St. Patrick Cross?

[@dominicbuckley8309]

@@AmericasChoice The St Patrick's Cross was only added in 1800, after the Acts of Union combining the Parliament of Great Britain and the Parliament of Ireland.

[@AmericasChoice]

@@dominicbuckley8309 Ok, thanks for the info.

[@myrandomlife8881]

And after this scene. Some people help islander to planting seeds

[@tophat2115]

good fiction, apparently it did not happen

[@spyrox]

Subtitles = 6

[@OptimusWombat]

LOL, I was wondering about that too.

[@b.mcboatface7319]

Great acting... never happened. The Hollywood-isation of history is bad enough, but it has some terrible effects when done to events within living memory. No officer of the *Royal* Navy is going go be flippant with royalty. Their own culture and hierarchy is embedded in aristocracy. And the supposed desk jockey captain he's talking to not only actively served in WW2... but WW1 too.

[@Gun1ld]

Too bad they didn`t include Prince Philip and Max Manus(norwegian war hero) dressed as women on party at sea(Max Manus mentions this in his autobiography, "Mitt liv")

[@monmothma3358]

Anyone know if this really happened?

[@josephxuereb1978]

Yes

[@kryzzan7039]

It didn't.

[@anthonystretch4250]

@@josephxuereb1978 Nope. It did not.

[@FarhanAmin1994]

What a ridiculous uniform tho

[@ph89787]

Those uniforms are for when the ship is operating in hot environments.

[@texassabre7214]

Nice white socks

[@MBB563]

Wow powerful scene, the man shows his leadership and his compassion, someone you dont want to cross. Much respect for a gentlemen, officer, and a prince. He displayed it so well here...that is to say if there is truth to this scene. What strikes me is the comparision, between Prince Philip and sissy Harry...wow, if I was Harry watching this, I would be ashamed of my life. Men dont express feelings, they lead, and they lead with authority.

[@anthonystretch4250]

Never happened.

[@antonego9581]

men don't express feelings as leaders? Have a read of Henry Vs speech in Shakespeare, probably the greatest example of masculine leadership in literature.

[@MBB563]

@@antonego9581 men arent sissys...does that help? Yes men have emotions and feelings, but must it be displayed everyday?

[@WillScarlet16]

Your thinking is crap. The only reason men don't express feelings is because they've been forced to suppress them for years by idiotic people like you who demean them for doing it. And that's honestly a huge part of why the world is such a mess.

[@ctorus]

Yet more fictional royalist propaganda from this show..

[@ChrisLovesThisGame]

The fake beard is terrible. The quality of Season 2 was greatly reduced and then it becomes completely unwatchable.

[@nathanhoover5147]

Honor before Duty

[@drk-mm5lp]

after the scene was over: "congratulations, you've been conquered by the british empire. we shall return for your taxes shortly"

[@cash_only]

Daemon Targaryen look soooo strange