Old Town Rudder Deployment Handle Stop Adjustment

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

I should have mentioned that the Old Town Rudder Handle Stop is only for the Topwater/Sportsman 106/120 PDL. The adjustment tips will work on all of the Old Town models.

[@Mta77778]

Great video - I liked the peacock just casually walking in the background too! haha

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Hahahaa. He likes to make his presence known.

[@averageeverydayfishermansh4501]

Good info...but more importantly, the peacock has made his appearance known without yelling. LOL!!!! --Brent

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Hahah. Once he drops his feathers he’s a little less vocal.

[@skeymoson]

Great info here … 🤠👍

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Thanks, Brian.

[@mialily206]

Hi Nick I emailed you a few months ago re: new rudder installation (yours of course). I watched your installation video but your rudder deploy knob on that video was in diff. position than mine. I also unscrewed pulley mistakenly, I guess I missed that Instruction. So I reached out to you and olde towne for detailed instructions on putting that pulley back in 🤯,and you both came thru! ty quite a fete. Anyway this video I could have used then lol Everything you mentioned re: cord tension etc I had to kind of fiddle with and figure out, also the deployment and holding steering at same time. I also replaced paracord and also lost the cord in tubing 😮😅My point .....this here video Is really very informative because these adjustments can be quite frustrating. I finally got it right and Rudder responds beautifully to waves,current etc. Thanks again! Debra

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Shucks. I should have made this video a long time ago!!!

[@johnlieu]

At this point, Nick, Old Town needs to just pay you for helping maintain/tune their products in addition to providing aftermarket solutions 😅

[@rjl2001]

I just got a new Bigwater PDL and the rudder deploy lever wasn't working right to stow the rudder. This video showed me just what I needed to know, a very simple adjustment of the lines inside the center of the handle and is now working well. Old Town should make that information easier to find. That's one thing Hobie got good at, is making tutorial videos to illustrate different product usage and maintenance. Looks like your channel might be my best bet to get that sort of information for Old Town kayaks.

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I’m glad you were able to fix the kayak.

[@yamilfil413]

Just what I need 🤙 Thanks Nick

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.

[@DetroitFishigan]

Thanks big Nick🤝🏼💯.

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@yakin_n_bassin8203]

This the video I've been waiting for

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Simple problem and a simple solution. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@woodsandwater123]

Thanks for this.... This has always annoyed me and seems like an easy fix. I'll have to grab one... As always, great innovation and work you put into these kayaks...its appreciated. Man, I wish someone would come up with a fix for the tackle box slot in/under the seat. Every time i upend my kayak to put it in the truck, or if I lift up on the seat, all my crap comes spilling out all over the place. Shame on old town for designing it like that without a front flap to keep your gear stowed.

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

I’ll add that to the list of things that have been brought up and requested over the years.

[@TonyPagan-r8q]

I added three strips of the rubber grip tape. It isn't perfect, but it does help.

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

If it works, it works. Simple temporary solutions are often the best way to solve a problem.

[@jelly_fishing]

Will try it on the MK106 - before my next trip. Thanks Nick

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@bpm2k]

Does the metal rudder help with this at all?

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

It does but I didn’t want to turn the instructional video into an advertisement. The metal rudder cuts through the water a bit better and stays deployed.

[@farve9as9a9viking]

Hey Nick, great video and great product. I have a sportsman 120, and the black line you are referencing in the video just snapped on mine. Only if I had this product a few weeks ago haha. Anyways, do you have any insight on how to run a new line and loop through the rudder deployment assembly within the hull and through the rudder? Thanks in advance.

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

I have some photos from Old Town that will help you get it fixed.

[@farve9as9a9viking]

@@NavarreKayakFishingthat would be amazing! I just sent you an email, thank you so much!

[@tomchalupsky5199]

I was wondering about this issue. The first 106 I had was set perfect. The second one has the handle issue you described. I will have to watch this again to see what I need to do to fix my specific issue. Thanks so much and I will let you know if I need any further help.

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Thanks for watching, Tom.

[@malcolmholliday1172]

The pack on the back of the seat, do you have those? I didn't see it on the site

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

That’s a Hobie bag. Unfortunately we can not sell them.

[@reinaldomoll]

Hey Nick, the rudder deployment cord on my Autopilot 136 is starting to fray. Is there a video on how to replace the cord? Thank you.

[@HouseFishingAdventures]

Glad to see you make this. @housefishingadventures and @slowboatfishing made our own last year but this is a lot cleaner. Add it to the cart haha

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

A stack of washers will do the job in a pinch!

[@joemartin6439]

Most of your vedeo shows the 120 . I will be getting either the Peditor or the big water132

[@Hawkerdude67]

I have an issue with my sportsman PDL 120. I thought it would be an easier fix but apparently not. Mine came to me with the rudder steering controls reversed. I thought I could just remove the cable keeper and flip the cable loop over which would unfortunately have the cables rubbing but at least when the handle moves left the kayak would steer left. Not so good. The cables bind and it won't steer. You ever seen this? I called Old Town when I got the yak and they said that it is not supposed to be like that. Tha's about all the guidance I got. Any comments or recommendations would be welcome! Nice vid. I just had to re-rig my rudder because the movers decided to completely remove it when moving the kayak. Got that all squared away at least.

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

You would need to pull the steering cables back through the kayak and run them through the correct tubes. Old Town should be able to supply new wire and crimps for you to fix the issue.

[@Hawkerdude67]

@@NavarreKayakFishing that’s what I was afraid of. Was hoping that with my lack of intimate knowledge of this kayak I might have been overlooking a simpler solution. Thanks! Great videos BTW!

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

@Hawkerdude67 I hope you get the issues resolved. Thanks for watching the videos.

[@mrb401]

This is great. But is there a fix for this on the Bigwater? Obviously a different rudder/handle deployment but wondering if there’s a solution for it

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Gravity helps a bit on the Bigwater since the handle is on the side of the kayak. If you adjust the black ropes properly is should reduce the issue drastically but I can look into a better option.

[@PatrickMize-du2dx]

Can you do a video re-routing the lines through the part under the Raising/Lowering handle. I messed mine up and can't figure it out to save my life...Please???? 😅

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

If you email me I can send you photos from Old Town that will give you all of the information you need to fix it.

[@Guspech750]

Nick and his people are brilliant

[@TwoStageTrigger]

Ill have to do this when i put on my metal rudder. My rudder lever doesnt point the right way, and to put it up it actually points inward far enough to tap the hull. When down it points out.

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Can you send me some photos? It almost sounds like you installed it back wards. I could be crazy though.

[@TwoStageTrigger]

I haven't done it yet. It came like that from old town. It doesnt point out all the way, but its never parallel with the rest of the hull. Pretty sure I can fix it now, when I get around to swapping out the rudder.

[@jasont80]

Is that a peacock just casually walking by? Ha ha!

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

That’s Mr. P. He was here when we purchased the property. I gave him a little corn and now he’s got free roam and just hangs out all day.

[@jamnjoe19]

My rudder will come up but it won’t go back down…I’m assuming one of the chords came off the pulley wheel under the handle…what’s the best way to tackle this problem

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Lift the seat and stick your hand in the hatch. You’ll be able to tell if the line came off. More often then not you can just slide the line back on the pulley.

[@jamnjoe19]

@@NavarreKayakFishing I just did that and yes one of the lines is off the pulley…I just can’t seem to get it back around the pulley…should I loosen the cable a bit? Or should I be able to just wrap it back around without doing that..doesn’t seem to have enough slack to just go back over…

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Try lifting the rudder and putting it in the middle like it’s half way deployed. It should give you a little wiggle room.

[@NoFro-TL]

So I looked at this on my brand new yak and one of the cables is significantly shorter than the other and the rudder doesnt work properly at all. Guess I will have to contact Old Town. Literally just got it today.

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Send me some photos and I’ll see if I can get you pointed in the right direction.

[@dennislewis7602]

Ok makes sense. But what about a old town predator xl. When I go to flip the rudder down it doesn’t move I have to do manually by hand. And bringing it up basically the same thing. It turns back and forth. But I need help on the releasing and disengagement. It’s my first kayak. I’m not familiar with the rudder going up and down. When I go to release it down. The rope feels like it’s in a bind and doesn’t come down. The paracord seems loose when I do it. Like it takes a lot to pull it down then the cord is loose but doesn’t deploy. I would greatly appreciate anyone telling me how or what I have to do. Thank you! Ps. Mine doesn’t work no where good as this one.

[@darnellsmith1896]

I saw one of your videos nitpicking the oldtown really harshly .I cant trust you on anything you say about oldtown kayaks.

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Pointing out things that could be better to improve the consumers experience in the future sounds like a win for everyone. You can have your opinion but when you call Old Town with a problem and they don’t have a solution they will tell you to call me. It happens every single day.

[@tonybreeze7734]

Do both cords wrap around clockwise around the screws?

[@NavarreKayakFishing]

Yes. That way when you tighten the screws the cord is held in place.