Navigating the Impossible: Legally Obtaining an Authorization to Carry Restricted Firearms in Canada

[@philipschofield7105]

Why can we protect ourselves in the wilderness against predators that may not understand we're not prey, but we can't protect ourselves against people who choose to do harm?

[@outdoorsythings2573]

Ever hear of the 3 S's. Shoot, shovel, shut up.. More used saying out here we're I am in rural alberta.

[@twistnbend4jewlz]

Because if ppl start taking care of criminals, the cops, lawyers, crowns, and ALL the court ppl in the back ground will be part time or non existence... and coroner's office will be working 24/7 😮 am I wrong? 😮

[@alphaisdank42069]

Even then, this video just tells us how hard it is to get firearms to protect yourself against wild animals, but its embarrassing how you can go to jail for shooting someone in your own home whos trying to do you good. The thing I never understood is literally everyone would shoot to kill if they were in their home.

[@jman6090]

@philipschofield7105 you can use a firearm in self defense in canada. There have been many times it's been used. It just requires far more evidence

[@alphaisdank42069]

@@jman6090 the evidence has to be PLENTIFUL, and you will still be looked at as a criminal and lose your firearms and license.

[@johnolsen7073]

I held an ATC for many years. Had one long before Canada had a firearms licence. In those days it was very difficult to get a "carry permit". My method of carry was unrestricted, open or concealed carry, I chose concealed way more secure and way less looks and questions. The RCMP refused to renew mine for years. I applied every year they kept refusing for reasons not supported by law. This left me a defence if I needed it. Under the new and improved Firearms Act, I actually find the process easier. When I need to renew mine. I do it at a private range, on private property where there is a safe private shooting range. I am the range officer, any guest is a range officer. Private ranges DO NOT fall under the Firearms Act, regs. My handguns are associated to two addresses. I have a law enforcement background, I am well acquainted with use of force and when to and how to use a handgun for defensive purposes. My disappointments with the CFO for BC Yukon are as follows; Why do I need to report the discharge of a handgun within 24 hours? Their reason was because it is according to the CFO, it is illegal to discharge a handgun except on an approved range. ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE AND NOT SUPPORTED IN THE LAW. If a person is in lawful possession, has legally transported and is in an area where firearms can be safely and legally discharged it is legal to discharge the handgun. You could push this another step if you owned a prohibited weapon, AR 15 or a full auto; these can be discharged on a private range. The Firearms Act has no legal affect on a private range. Private ranges are just that, private, no members, no fees, no commercial shooting range activity. The range must be safe, all projectiles must remain on the property and you should let your neighbours know you shoot guns at your place. My neighbours don't tell me when they shoot a coyote or wolf or whatever they are shooting at. My neighbours are good folks don't care if you shoot and make noise. All lawful firearms owners should be allowed to use and possess their handguns in the same areas they can possess and use a long gun. Without any of the BS associated to the ATC of today. Licensed gun owners are proven safe, are vetted daily and are responsible. My reason for doing this over the years was to comply with and obey the law, to ensure I had the ability to protect my life or the life of another in my company from harm or death by dangerous wildlife. Apologies for the long read.

[@kevinharrington6402]

Absolutely correct.

[@andrewpardue3324]

No need whatsoever to apologize… you made coherent very good points that many people including me may not know about and perfect sense in every regard 👍🏻.

[@rockwellrhodes7703]

How many of those points do you imagine a criminal worries about?

[@PaulieWalnutsGualtieri]

lawfull lawfull lawfull, what happened to GOD GIVEN right ? god damn I hate Canada for this

[@rockwellrhodes7703]

@@PaulieWalnutsGualtieri I'd really like to know where it's written that man has ANY rights that some despot or criminal with the same so-called rights can't just waltz in and TAKE those 'rights' by subterfuge or force. The only thing we can really call our own is our opinion... and even that is under fire, these days, just spend any amount of time on KZbin and try saying what you think you have a right to say!

[@marryson123]

To obtain an Authorization to Carry in Canada: First step: Apply for a US Green card Second step: move to the US. Third Step: Concealed carry!

[@Silvercoreca]

🤣

[@chadfontaine2717]

🤣

[@marin0ujka]

@@marryson123 lol 😆

[@marin0ujka]

Lol

[@voidcamp7312]

Bonus: your magazine will last longer when you change flags. lol

[@Matt-d8m]

I wish we actually had tangible rights as Canadians instead of a nice piece of paper the government can rip up at any given moment.

[@MuffHam]

@@Matt-d8m The government dosent rips it up. The government wipes there ass's with it.

[@missthang4982]

​@@MuffHam😂😂... Touche 🤺🤺

[@madjackpatciderhouserules8436]

@@Matt-d8m we could always as a People demand to have the Constitution rewritten and then just plagiarize the American Constitution, thereby making sure we have unalienable Rights.

[@ryanhodgson1879]

We do have those rights. Believers in government claim otherwise. Who do you think is right?

[@SovranMonk]

You have ALL the right you know how to claim and defend.

[@johnsmithe7560]

Canada has an incredible amount of outdoor space, let's get more people out there camping, hiking, hunting, fishing, etc. Everyone outdoors deserves to carry protection for themselves and their families. The fact that people who work outdoors require a sidearm for wildlife protection is PROOF that it is necessary. Bears aren't checking ID. Equal protection for everyone! If the govt wants to restrict it, at least allow .357 mag or 44 mag.

[@gullybull5568]

@@johnsmithe7560 cant ! Need werk !

[@gcanada3005]

Maybe PP will totally rewrite the firearms laws. That’s what we are all hoping for. Not even being allowed to shoot restricted on your own property, unless you get a whole range inspection is absurd. Especially considering you can shoot high powered rifles and shotguns on the same property without restrictions

[@gullybull5568]

@@gcanada3005 what does FAC matter when EVERY CANADIAN has NEVER held a firearm ( GUN IS THE NAME OF THE PRODUCER )

[@gcanada3005]

@@gullybull5568 What are you talking about. Almost 1 in 11 adults in Canada have a gun license. Might wanna look up those statistics. Not to mention it's increased every year under Justin. Justin has sold more guns in Canada than Winchester

[@gcanada3005]

@@gullybull5568 Do you even know what you are screaming about. I can tell you nobody else has a clue

[@joshdoddadbod]

Got mine for Alberta/Yukon/BC for geology work. Was a lot of red tape. Don't even bother trying to get it for Quebec, they make it impossible. This should be allowed for any outdoor recreational activity. The fact it's only for work is ridiculous.

[@Silvercoreca]

Agreed!

[@Lgg42069]

@@Silvercoreca can you carry outside of work hours ex. Say you're going on a hike in the wilderness?

[@johnlocke_1]

I sincerely doubt you obtained a carry permit for a handgun. I absolutely do not believe it.

[@Silvercoreca]

The wilderness ATC’s are for work. laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-207/page-1.html

[@gcanada3005]

@@johnlocke_1 For wilderness work , people are allowed. For any other reason virtually impossible

[@ashk4155]

I live down town Toronto. It doesn’t get more wilderness than that.

[@TheRandyns]

lmao indeed.

[@zebatov]

Urban jungle. Icky.

[@eldutcho3576]

The most dangerous predator on the planet has two legs. Prepare accordingly.

[@eldutcho3576]

The most dangerous predator on the planet has two legs. Prepare accordingly.

[@eldutcho3576]

The most dangerous predator on the planet has two legs. Prepare accordingly.

[@jamiekinch188]

I held my ATC for quite a few years as a forestry worker and as a trapper. It is a huge PITA to renew every 2 years, stay current with constant changes, meet changing proficiency rules, bear the cost of range fees, ammunition, testing, ect.... These days, I just roll the dice and hope all the bears are friendly just like in Disneyland.

[@Studio_Noire]

Perhaps one day, Canadians will have the right to protect themselves from harm.... controversial, I know...

[@loganwhite3904]

you're not the only one with that thought

[@sadnessinside123]

Not controversial at all. It is a stigma due to all the rhetoric compiled over the last few decades through bad policies.

[@user-ih5ii4tp3w]

It is law to value the life of someone that doesn't respect your life or hold any value for life... Yeah that makes sense I'll always rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6

[@loganwhite3904]

@@user-ih5ii4tp3w as a wheelchair bound Canadian, I'd rather have the TOOL than wait 20 minutes for cops to respond

[@danielsailors6644]

We have that right just don't brag about it

[@laurafulton7023]

Removing article 1 from Canadas Charter Rights and adding a US style 1st and 2nd amendment is desperately required asap

[@jasonspencer5267]

@@laurafulton7023 I’ve been saying this for years! The fact that there is wording in our Charter that basically says the Government can suspend our rights at anytime if they see it necessary, tells me that our rights are not rights at all. Major changes needed here in Canada.

[@laurafulton7023]

@jasonspencer5267 ASAP Unfortunately the masses are drunk or on psych meds, physically incapable of critical thinking and glued to the TV

[@outdoorsythings2573]

Sadly canada is to woke under Trudeau. He has poisoned the minds of a whole generation of youth

[@johnlocke_1]

Bahahahahahhahahaha Keep dreaming.

[@laurafulton7023]

@johnlocke_1 You’re boosted aren’t you?

[@leahdiston827]

I wish I could get an ATC for the time when I’m hunting. I’m often alone, have my rifle strapped to my backpack, and have had a few instances where I struggled to get access to my rifle. A sidearm is basic self protection in the forest.

[@gcanada3005]

Yes absurd. You can carry something much more powerful, just not something smaller and less powerful

[@Xenocath-YBAB]

I am extremely happy that people are starting to cover this thank you sir

[@microcolonel]

Having grown up in Canada I sympathize with the profound ignorance of use of force law in the U.S, but it doesn't come remotely close to "shoot first, ask questions later". In reality, use of force law is very similar between the northern states and Canada; it comes down to imminence, avoidance, innocence, reasonableness, and proportionality.

[@greenyoshi777]

It's very simple: Are you going to end up in the hospital or in the morgue if see a threat RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU right this instant that is painfully obvious that is so serious that if YOU DON'T pull the trigger right this second? You OR somebody else will either A) DIE or B) end up suffering in the hospital with serious injuries (i.e. broken bones OR severed/amputated limbs) ? Potentially for a long time? OR C) Or you being threatened right this moment with a weapon that can cause serious injury or death?

[@zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba0]

I'm happy and hopefully after seeing so many others that also believe they have the right to preserve their own lives. Respect all.

[@drumstyx]

Maybe you address this later, but the handgun freeze is referred to as "legislation" just before 19 minutes in: it should be noted that the freeze was implemented with *no legislative authority* for nearly 2 months before bill C-21 received royal assent. You could say it was Canada's version of an executive order, but the process, in general, is so much more convoluted than that. The prime minister clearly made the decision, but the authority to make regulations is granted by the firearms act to the "governor in council". How many average Canadians do you think know, without a refresher on Canadian government, (heck, I don't know that I was ever taught this actually) that "governor in council" refers to a representative of a representative (because it's not the gov. General themself sitting there), in "privy council", which is actually a meeting where the pm makes an order. What a circus! It's almost as if it's intentionally abstract....

[@rockwellrhodes7703]

If you're meaning is this a conspiracy to confiscate all weapons from legal owners, yes, it is.

[@dreadnaughttactical]

I dont need it for work reasons.. I need it for LIFE reasons! 4 legged animals in the wilderness are NOT a problem for me.. 2 legged animals in the city are.. and those 2 legged animals have guns! A very wise man once said.. "Get strapped up.. or get clapped up"-

[@NonDNA-py5gr]

Stay in the yankee states.

[@Silvercoreca]

We touch on this in an upcoming podcast with law enforcement professional who teaches personal safety

[@kennyfupowers9111]

that was your sex ed teacher lol

[@xentrix89]

Any life that seeks to harm my own or those I love is a problem dosent matter where it lives or how many legs it has!!!!!!

[@thomasb8733]

@@dreadnaughttactical comments like this are going to be used against you in court if you ever get into an altercation.

[@Kenword69420]

I’m a pilot in training and hoping to become a bush pilot to remote research stations and wildlife observation sites in the deep bush with no one around for 100’s of kilometres sometimes the pilots need to stay out there for multiple days in a row. Having a gun while in bear/moose and large wild cat country is A MUST FOR YOUR OWN SAFTEY!!!

[@ZanderTurner-wb8ko]

Fun fact you're a lot more likely to be attacked by a person even if you do spend a bunch of time out in Bush being legally allowed to carry guns in cities for self-defense is what's important

[@eldutcho3576]

Been carrying for decades. If I ever had to use it, well, I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I’m willing to protect my family, my self and my property, so the “government” with all the security can pound sand.

[@georgen26]

bless you brotha

[@VodkaSoda]

😳

[@antonfidd3795]

You in Canada?

[@Fixin-To]

@@antonfidd3795 fed

[@zebatov]

I would never find anyone guilty of that offense, and I suspect there are many Canadians who end-up in juries who wouldn’t, either. But the fact that you’d still have to go through a trial is the most outrageous part.

[@g157fasdf9]

i own over 200 acre private land and wood in North BC. And I carry my side arm everyday while I am outside within my land

[@onebadassacrobat]

Living in Toronto and not being able to have a handgun really seems to be the dumbest thing... I own a home in Tampa and have purchased 4 handguns just in the past 6 months. Sig P226 x5 CZ TS2 Orange Canik TTI Combat TTI Sand Viper I only use these for the range and It's such an amazing community of people really enjoying a sport.

[@tonylam9548]

The gun restrictions are basically a power grab, and it did not work, for in Canada US everywhere, the criminals all have hand guns and AKs. Canada are one of the half dozen or so countries tainted by old British laws and cultures. Strange, when English kings need help centuries ago, the serfs were mandated to practice long bows on Sunday, that is the MG 42 of that era , Cresy, Agincourt. 13, 1400s. Some places in US literally mandate you to have a gun at home. In Florida, one sheriff went on TV something about saving tax payer money, if someone bust into your house, that is the Castle doctrine, you have a right to eject them with your 357 magnum or 12 gauge. Best be sure you stay in the house, and not standing even on the porch . In Canada, we are not allow to defend ourselves, we are supposed to die if we are attacked. There is no hope for this gov. , have to wait for the next one. In NY now, the law protect the criminals and they commit all kinds of robberies and assault penalty free. They can grab your wallet or handbag, but if you fight and assault them it is a felony. They made it about impossible to get a conceal carrying permit in NY and crime got much worse.

[@eppweld]

Thank you Travis and Rachel for this extensive breakdown of the process and detail of ways to ensure to not limit yourself in the process. I'll be in touch!

[@Juggggo]

I wish we had rights in Canada

[@ZanderTurner-wb8ko]

Why not just move to a new country like Panama or Costa Rica

[@curtishand6180]

​@@ZanderTurner-wb8koWhy would you want him to migrate?

[@GrahamHardy]

And unfettered access to my personal bank accounts.

[@frakismaximus3052]

We do have rights. Make no mistake about that. In the US, Police and prosecutors challenge and trod on citizens' rights all the time. What we need is less politicization of our courts.

[@mrsoft6884]

Vancouver drug addicts can carry firearms with out any permits or restrictions.

[@thomasb8733]

So can you If you're willing to take the legal risk

[@mikaelangelo6940]

The only legitimate reason required should be because I want to. Preventing a citizen to defend himself in anyway possible should NEVER be a power that a government have.

[@ARBORDANIELS]

I didn't think I'd make it for the whole 2:41 but this was a great conversation and very helpful. Like you guys said I have (and I think many others) thought this process was closed to them for all the reasons you mentioned. Really appreciate you guys for this.

[@robertjirava942]

You folks are very nice and I appreciate how well you conducted yourselves during this interview. Civil, respectful, good humor….. and look at all the useful info you generated for us. Thank you. I have to say. The way that the authorities in Canada treat us, all these ridiculous hoops they make us jump through. This is no way to treat responsible, law-abiding people. They lack goodwill to the population and would rather stand at loggerheads with us than to dare make life a bit easier for us. Moreover, an armed population is a polite one. I believe that carry rights should be a common thing. As it is, people who have business in very dangerous country - with huge bears running around - are placing their life in danger. The logic employed by the government is “well, very few people are actually mauled”. To be in real danger is often not accompanied by a mauling but the danger still exists! You know what, the government in Canada is a joke. They will never change. So I say, we drastically reduce the size of the government. They have not earned my respect. Their treatment of us with all these regulations is reprehensible. The inches thick regulation documents do not result in more safety. Rather, due to the complicated process, safety is COMPROMISED. I have not seen a government less self conscious than that of Canada. Well wait. There was one. There was Fidel Castro’s regime in Cuba. In Canada, this has produced some sickening results. We are a nation of good little rule-following little bitches. Face it, decades of being over-governed has resulted in this maniacal condition. “We make me sick”. Beyond messed up!!

[@leethstarwatcher]

"Moreover, an armed population is a polite one." -- Canada is one of the most polite countries in the world. Japan too. Neither country has a population with an abundance of firearms in the general population.Explain that?

[@robertjirava942]

@@leethstarwatcher You are wrong on two points: 1. Canada USED TO be polite. Today we are a nation of pussies. There is a difference 2. Canada has a heavily armed population, more than abundantly armed; I have no idea where you get that. I will add a third point: 3. We are sick to death of being pontificated to by people who do not know what they are talking about. Please, just go away. To Japan maybe

[@Persepolis8564]

Do you think if Pierre becomes the next PM, he will reverse tge freeze order?

[@YungStinkyWinky]

He has stated as such.

[@mitchchartrand]

​@@YungStinkyWinkyin a very politician speak kind of way. He has not outright declared that he will abolish provisions specifically in regards to handguns. I'm not holding my breath.

[@chrislee-jones4420]

I worry Pierre will be all talk.

[@QBDLettuce]

@@mitchchartrand Just like with the carbon tax. He started saying it needs to be abolished entirely, then when that got more traction, the messaging became "abolish the carbon tax.... on home heating oil and diesel for farmers" . The most important part about fuel costs for regular people and truckers suddenly doesn't get mentioned anymore. It's a uniparty, they just fuck us over in slightly different ways, but all with the same goal.

[@JustYourAvarageJoe]

@@Persepolis8564 I really hope soo

[@surfwaxcdn]

It’s perverse that we have to go through so many hoops to be able to carry a tool to protect ourselves with. Also I would argue that I have as much right to protect myself in a metropolitan city as someone who is working in the north. When seconds count, police are only minutes away.

[@johngz3413]

My mom had her conceal carry back in the 90's living on the farm in rural BC and we had a trespasser problem noted with the RCMP.

[@brunoxxx8776]

I have a restricted PAL I am a farmer and we have cyotes, deer, bear and the odd cougar. I also hunt. Can I apply to carry on my property and when I am hunting?

[@Silvercoreca]

@@brunoxxx8776 if you need a restricted firearm for protection from wild animals while you work, yes. If hunting isn’t work, then likely not under the watc system. The podcast goes into greater depth on this.

[@1timepad]

not legal advice but if you are always strictly in the confines of your own land and that land location address is where the firearms are stored then it is less likely to be challenged. keeping in mind issues and interpretation of law tend to happen when someone complains or that unusual circumstance arises. I'm thinking neighbour or a hunting partner is aware and sees it differently. if you choose to concealed carry on your land you may never get challenged but it takes discipline. go to town and forget? car accident on local road accessing your 1/4 etc. try running a shorty 12 gauge and set up a good racking system in your various equipment? move that religiously between all your modes of transport. do you want to devote the energy to doing that? all good things to think about.

[@Cnote456-h5x]

Hey thanks for making this video. I want to get my license but the hollahoops to go through is intimidating and discouraging

[@Silvercoreca]

No need to be intimidated, just follow the process detailed in the video. The more people who apply the easier it will be for everyone.

[@Dmac6969]

In warmer months id run just a regular duty belt. And in the winter id run a battle type belt that easily and snuggly fits over a jacket.

[@Ayagutak1]

I'm a jewelry carrier, high-risk job. I need ATC. How can I get it

[@Comingbackin20254k]

Thank you for the podcast. 👍 Always happy to listen and watch Silvercore podcasts.

[@Silvercoreca]

You are welcome. Also know that we are always happy to read your comments. You are a huge supporter and we appreciate it!

[@Comingbackin20254k]

@@Silvercoreca My pleasure 🙏 🫡

[@RonStochler-oz1qk]

As a victim of crime I would apply for an authorization to carry. I worked for warehouse managed by a criminal affiliated with an organized crime racket associated with Al Queda. I didn't really realize what was going until the last day I worked there and I was used as a human shield during a massive drug deal. I was fired the next day and I was so disgusted that complained to the owner of the warehouse that I suspected what was going on. Afterwards I was stalked by a youth offender associated with their gang sent to kill me. The police caught him and I suspect he spent limited time in kiddy prison. There has been another attempt on my life afterwards but I noticed the idiot and never left my garage as he waited for me to exit my dead end street. He doesn't need a license for his firearm, and I can't even get a permit to carry. Welcome to Canada!!

[@TheCornstalker]

We should have the legal rights to carry with all proper training this is not the same Canada we grew up in it is a different world now home invasion assault robbery drug addicted criminals that will stop at nothing to take from you or family and your life is nothing to them

[@greenyoshi777]

The feds DO NOT want people EMPOWERED.

[@peterb22084]

Definitely not a free country especially for those of us now in our sixties that are noncriminal, been working and living under various codes of conduct and criminal checks for decades, recreation in outdoors since early childhood , firing my first centre-fire at age eight, went on to master slingshots and arrows, and .22s , worked my way up the firearms ladder, proficient with all manners of firearms and still learning about the subject matter even to this day. My career for over thirty years involved caring for the vulnerable and watching people die, countless times. I have prohibited firearms and restricted. I am now technically disabled. Don't have the agility I once had before injuries. So when I'm in the back-country, I've had to source polymer framed shotgun/rifles to lessen the weight, but wish I could legally carry or pack one of my other types of firearms. And with my history of service to people, essentially a First Responder, I'm still not trusted by the politicals that rule over us.

[@NonDNA-py5gr]

You dont need it . we aint yankees

[@gullybull5568]

They dont rule over you.

[@peterb22084]

@@NonDNA-py5gr until very recently , under Canadian criminal law, even when being confronted and threatened with bodily harm by others on your own property, we victims had a duty to "retreat" , and allow ourselves to assaulted. Is that your definition of being Canadian?! A blind submissive weakened sheep?

[@cartermccool6233]

@@NonDNA-py5gr Americans aren’t the only ones with guns g this is a big ass world best believe you gotta keep up with reality

[@mac3ron1]

@@NonDNA-py5gr we are Americans. Don’t matter if we are Yankees or Canucks. We should have the right to protect ourselves. It’s funny how you use the term “we ain’t Yankees”. You sound like a yank to me.

[@johnbozak1662]

Hey Travis, I’m a licensed trapper and hunter here in Ontario. And a restricted gun owner since 2004. What are my chances of getting an ATC?

[@prcc]

Fantastic video. I've been waiting for this one for ages. Much appreciated!

[@1ABNDT]

When I went for my ATC course the instructor told me that he had a very interesting conversation with the CFO about me. I am a PWD (1 arm).😂🤣 Never give up

[@loganwhite3904]

did you end up getting it?

[@1ABNDT]

@@loganwhite3904 yes, once the instructor saw that I was safe & efficient with the firearm & put all but 2 Rds in the A zone, he was good. I can't blame them for their caution, it's the first time they have ever had this request, & I can understand that most would. What I really appreciated is that not one person discriminated against me & allowed me to prove my abilities. & that meant more to me than passing the course.

[@dreadnaughttactical]

When I went for mine.. they sent me a letter back saying.. "Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.. ARE YOU SERIOUS..?? lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol YOU'RE JOKING RIGHT..?? Ha Ha Ha Ha.. YOU'RE LUCKY WE EVEN GAVE YOU A RPAL..!! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.."

[@1ABNDT]

@@dreadnaughttactical 🤣😂They don't give out "letters". You either pass or you don't. Cope harder.

[@John-lc2lz]

It wasn't me. It was the one armed man 😂

[@schoefernavy]

I'd love to have a chat about the different laws between Canada and the US on gun laws as a dual citizen of both country's I do have a firearms in both country's and understand the rules pretty well as a U.S. Navy veteran I was trained in self defense laws to a certain degree and think it would be a great chat for sure I am looking to get my ATC in Alberta for wilderness carry so this may help me a bit as well Thanks for the great video.

[@ZanderTurner-wb8ko]

If it can hurt people it's a weapon if it's a weapon it's a crime to carry it's pretty generalized but it's also pretty true this is Canada you don't have freedom here no one does

[@GoldCountryTrapping]

I had the wilderness ATC for years. I eventually let it lapse as the renewal requirements are tiresome. It was also very stressful travelling with a handgun knowing that 99% of the cops, should i encounter one are not going to know the laws in regards to the ATC.

[@AgentExhale]

Tell me why cops are able to use guns to defend their lives while citizens can't do the same.

[@JamespMusic]

Cause we live in a commy country.

[@leethstarwatcher]

cause stupid people do stupid things, and when they're allowed to have access to a handgun you better believe they'll use it for stupid reasons -- don't be stupid

[@RandyHunt19]

Great Pod Travis and Rachel!! Hope it changes in 2025!!

[@Silvercoreca]

Thanks Randy!

[@qa1e2r4]

So what happens when you change your job and you no longer need the firearm? Do you surrender it, get it bought back. What happens with the license do you lose it and have to reapply ect.?

[@greenyoshi777]

YOU have to report it immediately AND it gets revoked. RPAL is still yours if you have it, same with ATT (transport only). If you fail to report? Straight to jail in all likelihood!

[@luisnunez9277]

Thank you for this very informative and intricate video. You did answer a lot of my questions, especially the one were I need to be working. I am a retired member of the Armed forces and although I live in a rural area in Nova scotia where there are bears, linx, coyotes, etc, I thought that it would be acceptable for the CFO to grant me an ATT. I did not try to get it, but now that I am better informed, I won't be now. Too bad. Either way thank you both for the video.

[@patsboy1012]

21:11 This really depends on the laws of a certain state as some US states have mandatory waiting periods before you can take possession of your gun. Some states allow it while others don’t. For example, here in Washington State, we now have a mandatory 10 business day (2 weeks) waiting period as of 1/1/2024 before we are allowed to take possession of our purchased firearm.

[@adrian28576]

So you can only get a ATC if your a trapper and you can only become a trapper or have a trap line if you native Indian or was left one by your family?

[@VAUGHANG-zh5bc]

@@adrian28576 or you can buy a registered trap line from the previous trapper.

[@nephilimshammer9567]

Or buy one for 100k plus

[@melaniedebagheera7082]

Naw, I took my trapping course and became a 2nd on a friend's line. Lines are more available than you think.

[@J.Teichroeb_ThisIsEpic]

Would love to have concealed carry here in Canada . Of course with proper training and a very in depth back ground check to rule out crazies and terrosits obtaining one that is 👍👍

[@joesafar5413]

Great podcast, lots to learn, thank you for sharing... Question though, you said towards the end "Sorry Nova Scotia" I am curious what issues have you or people you have helped ran into in Nova Scotia? As I am a compliance officer for bylaws and end up once in a while working in isolated areas by myself, no radio or mobile phone signal, and usually wild animals around. Please share what you meant.

[@loganwhite3904]

I'm physically disabled (spina bifida) I would love to get an ATC but doubt I'll ever be able to

[@1ABNDT]

@@loganwhite3904 you never know L, miracles happen every day. GY6 Stay frosty.

[@Gman-109]

I have my instructor certs for concealed carry handgun(instructor) from SigSauer Academy, along with a dozen other certs from various schools, and a lot of experience instructing both civilians as well as contractors for a couple PMC companies, both in Canada and the USA A couple things in this video I want to comment on - focusing on "smooth trigger press" and a number of other things said by both of the people in this video is very, very "old world" thinking and training. The most critical thing in accurate handgun shooting is the grip and maintaining that grip as it relates to keeping it on target with your sight picture. If this is done correctly, then trigger press doesn't matter, so long as the trigger gets pressed, your rounds will fly to where your sight picture is pointed. When shooters anticipate recoil, which is the most common issue in terms of missing the target, it's the moving of the handgun and breaking that grip to target lock that is responsible, NOT a "poor trigger press". Grip Grip Grip. Once a shooter has the fundamentals of operating the handgun as well as safe holster/etc ability, that should be the focus - training to maintain the proper type of grip and keeping it as motionless as possible while servicing the target. Everything else is a very, very small piece of the puzzle, or can even be discounted/ignored. One of the best handgun instructors in the world, who is a former US Army special missions unit assaulter and team leader, John McPhee, has created IMO - and many other's opinions - the best system for handgun shooting/fighting in existence. Rogers Shooting school and many of the other "top" schools are teaching the same principles and techniques now. McPhee teaches the grip focused system. There are even KZbin videos available where he explains it far better than I just tried. I realize that wildlife defense is different than "tactical" training in some ways, but the ability to put rounds on target from a holstered firearm is still the bottom line for both. I feel the instructor(s) here need to update some of their training, as they're focusing on older techniques, which have been greatly improved upon since the GWAT began. Very interesting video, thanks for posting it.

[@ChrisRoadWarrior]

Toronto RPAL holder here who owns zero Rs, out of a total of 716,348 RPALs as of 2022 RCMP Commissioner of Firearms Report, how many RPAL holders are using or would need an ATC for their legally-acquired and possesed handguns to be used for a legit job anywhere in wilderness or a very remote and non-urban area? Maybe somebody would provide a percentage of such RPAL holders with a current ATC that work in a very remote and non-urban area anywhere throughout Canada! Alternatively, how many RPAL holders live in an urban area like Toronto or other large cities and have nothing to do with any wilderness or similar job-related work throughout Canada? Thank you.

[@benwheeler9631]

Could anyone give me advice on the pursuit of the Farmer/Rancher angle? A farmer encounters livestock threats, personal threats, and the security of crops. I would like to pursue the possibility of a carry permit for livestock and personal protection when at more secluded and harder to navigate portions of the farm (not always easy or convenient to carry a rifle).

[@nathanlambert1502]

i live in canada and the gun laws are a fucking joke.

[@lloydmauler]

find the votes. you have none. . That's on you, not liberals.

[@danielfriesen372]

Remember, while your jumping through the hoops you can carry a 26" 12 gage ,pistol grip shotty with appropriate loads. Make sure you meet the minimum barrel and overall length.

[@douglassmith4983]

Hopefully when a person plans on going up north to hunt it be aloud to carry a pistol as long as you have a PAL/RPAL

[@davedaly5795]

Was listening to KZbin Playlist. Earplugs in ,eyes closed, lying in bed, and this came on I'm like wtf. Never heard it or her in my life. Amazing

[@1ABNDT]

Shared.

[@alexparker1827]

A friend of mine got his permanent for carry a hand gun they only allowed him to carry a 22 cal for trapping he took a wilderness hand gun course passed the course

[@harshdeepsingh1728]

Just a question i am a independent Wildlife Biologist i do all my stuff in northern alberta do i qualify for an wilderness ATC

[@Silvercoreca]

Short answer, yes. Longer answer in the podcast 😉

[@brandonemerson7747]

Makes me glad I live in 🇺🇸

[@owensthilaire8189]

There are any number of short rifles and shot guns that can be carried. All one needs is the license to buy long guns, ( non-restricted ). The law is, the fire arm must be completely covered, but if one is off the beaten path it is unlikely one will need to worry about that.

[@JOYVEMIE]

Hello i beleave that canadian gun laws need to go back prior to Trudeau Sir in 1977 the first gun grab mostnof you will not remember, this was when people lost there rights in canada to own all kinds of guns and to protect them selves in tgere homes and in the bush now having said that we should keep the FAC law, not that it keeps guns out of the hands of criminals because it does not, the only good thing is we know that a FAC holder has show he or she is competent owning and using a firarm

[@D33Lux]

Pre 1965 you could acquire a carry permit from any police station no questions asked, pay registration fee and walk out with gun in pocket. That was the last year those were issued.

[@curtishand6180]

No, we need to get rid of any form of asking permission, especially if it's something done under the guise of safety

[@electric26]

​@@D33Lux🥲

[@jensbiederstaedt8022]

It will be a good measuring tool to see how PP reverses all the liberal bans and crap. Or not. I, as a Canadian citizen don't see any reason why I cannot defend myself with all obtainable measures.

[@KevinatHome]

One thing I've always wondered on this topic: If you were a contracted individual with a work-case inside of a national park... Can an ATC for wilderness defence override this as it's illegal to carry even a non-restricted firearm for this purpose as a licensed PAL/RPAL holder?

[@GoodGuyBiker]

great talk guys thanks for sharing

[@richardschlueter9866]

I am a US citizen and have a handgun license although we have a RIGHT to keep and bear firearms it is a long process to obtain a hand gun license in some states. Canadians must change their government by the way of the vote. Vote out the anti-firearms politicians.

[@motoluofthenorth1820]

@@richardschlueter9866 That's impossible as Liberals run this country. We need terms in office and a electoral college voting system. Then we may stand a chance. Right now it's popular vote and Ontario and Quebec basically run the show.

[@leethstarwatcher]

We don't need US problems in Canada. Thanks, but no thanks.

[@motoluofthenorth1820]

@@leethstarwatcher Protecting yourself and your family is not a problem. And take a look at the BS that is happening with Trudeau's gun laws. Criminals are running wild and the law abider has their hands tied. Wake up and smell the coffee!

[@fireball3421]

Im curious, as an infantry veteran who has fired 10's of thousands of rounds, I have more experience than a lot of the population, in your experience is it easier for Veteran's to get a ATC to carry in the woods.

[@Hunting_Grt_whiteNorth]

So armored car work (eg. in which you are wearing a business uniform, & part of which consists of a side arm.) Whereby you would be in immediate threat of a robbery in the course of your job. As the police are often not in the immediate vicinity to help. You are then on your own to protect your self or your partner, from ( i.e. death /grevious bodily harm/or iminent threat to life) While guarding a precious metals or bank liability or negotial instruments.)

[@adc1ca]

I used to do close protection. I applied for mine..got a phonecall from the CFO and we talked for a half hour. He told me he wanted to grant it too me however the ways the laws were written he just couldn't. He even agreed it's ridiculous and I should have been no issue.

[@mark__whitfield]

Cool subject, do you ever do a highlight reel because....3hrs?

[@chadhopkins8421]

I did my safety firearms corse passed got approved by rcmp but have been waiting since January for a non restricted license for hunting purposes I have my hunting license and outdoors card and fish but I guess I have to use my primal intimidation to fight off the bears

[@hvp685]

Is the m1a2 just a modification from the 30 Cal?

[@whitetailsheds7771]

Didn't get past the first couple minutes when "professional" was used in who qualifies for the ATC. As far as I know, it's always been that way. Please tell me to watch the rest of the video where it tells me how myself and my daughter can carry for self protection! Regards all!!

[@codyglasbergen2652]

We will have our day once we get a majority conservative government. We deserve a right to conceal carry, both handgun & rifle…..

[@frakismaximus3052]

You're going to concealed carry a rifle?

[@smorgie7720]

An armed society is a polite society.

[@jolufepi]

I live in Toronto (different jungle or wilderness) and I have been enlightened by your information and way of teaching. I come from South America, a former hunter and police officer and I was always informed here that it was impossible to get that type of permit and that where I come from there is no problem with carrying a weapon, always depending on your behavior and mental state and now suitability in the field. handling of the weapon. Thank you for this extremely illustrative video and also adorned by the beauty of the lady present, thank you again. 👍🇺🇾🤝🇨🇦🧉🦮🐎⚖️🗽🔫

[@wellwoodulookatdat4933]

Thank you for this, I had no idea that as a Free minor that I qualified for this. Bear spray still leaves me feeling pretty vulnerable as the local bear passes through my claim regularly and have had some close encounters, thankfully without incident, so far. In my area the PAL course runs on a day that would require me to take two nights off to attend. Are there other options available?

[@Silvercoreca]

Where is your area?

[@wellwoodulookatdat4933]

@@Silvercoreca Southern part of Vancouver Island.

[@Silvercoreca]

@@wellwoodulookatdat4933Silvercore.ca has courses in Victoria, Nanaimo and Parksville on weekends. On weekdays for those that want to come to the mainland, Delta, Vancouver, Langley.

[@wellwoodulookatdat4933]

@@Silvercoreca yes, they are on Saturday pal and Sunday restricted pal. My regular schedule is nights Wed through Saturday, which means that I would have to take Friday night and Saturday night off to attend. The mainland is both time and cost prohibitive. Is there not an online option? Sorry i haven't had a PAL since it was called an FAC... been a while...

[@Silvercoreca]

@wellwoodulookatdat4933 no online options yet. If you did safety training between 1994 and now to get your FAC, you don’t need to do the course again.

[@timtoolman1243]

Concealed Carry needs to be introduced to Canada like it is in the states. We are drowning in illegal guns coming across the border by criminals because of that handgun freeze creating demand by folks who would have been law abiding citizens but have the need that’s greater than the law against it.

[@blooeagle5118]

Canada: Reform the charter of "rights" (allowances) and pronounce your actual rights. The rights to defend oneself and family, the right to speak freely, the right to freely practice religion, and the right to swift trial.

[@thomasjeffersoncry]

CDN's need the have a right to CC. Remember when seconds count the police will be there in minutes.

[@curtishand6180]

It should be ok if others can see it as well

[@SirHoffinator101]

Ontario doesn’t make you belong to a gun club…I don’t belong to one. Also, I believe you can obtain your ATC as a prospector as well. I have a one hour video left for training and I am a legal prospector

[@Silvercoreca]

@@SirHoffinator101 Do you know why Ontario doesn’t make you belong to a gun club? It’s a pretty cool story and one that is deserving of a podcast as well. Congratulations on your prospector licence!

[@SirHoffinator101]

@@Silvercoreca I am actually not sure why Ontario doesn’t require a gun club membership. I know I looked into it some time ago but I don’t remember the reasoning. I will look into it and get back to you! Have you ever heard of prospecting license as a reason to be granted an ATC? I had looked into this some time ago and is the main inspiration in obtaining it however, if it doesn’t pan out I still have my prospector license :)

[@mattwilliams7454]

Maybe im missing something but why would a restricted carry be necessary on a hunting trip? Everyone on the trip is carrying long guns presumably. Whats going on here.

[@brandonverhnjak3453]

I notice that you don’t have any open seats in your WATC course. How does one sign up. I am a registered trapper in BC.

[@JamespMusic]

Question for you, I transport cash for a business(church)… would this be a legit reason, there is often times where the cash is known to be there(every week).

[@Silvercoreca]

@@JamespMusic This was talked about in the podcast. Short answer, yes.

[@southdetroitentertainment7741]

Silvercore Outdoors Maybe you should put your energies towards helping people so they can legally carry, so they can protect themself from being attacked when they're in public, or home, in the saftey of their residence

[@ZanderTurner-wb8ko]

Not a thing in Canada does not exist you need to leave the country and go somewhere where you actually have rights in order to be legally allowed to do that

[@southdetroitentertainment7741]

@@ZanderTurner-wb8ko And it's that mindset, that shows me canadians aren't willing to demand that 21st century laws be enacted in canada So legal gun owners can have common sense gun laws on the books You won't make progress, if you don't demand those laws be enacted

[@Kenword69420]

@@southdetroitentertainment7741 he’s delusional look at his other comments on this video and other videos on this channel. Out of touch this Zander fellow

[@bananasunday2845]

Wow, this guy's voice and way of speaking reminds me so much of Neil deGrasse Tyson. I was listening to him and thought it skipped to another video.

[@Silvercoreca]

🤣 you aren’t the first to say this….

[@MrCryptler69]

I obtained an ATC through work as an Armed Guard & that's the only way to carry a gun in the city, through an employer or company. Besides, the police & perhaps a Peace Officer or some high security detail for the corrupt Prime Minister, it's hard to obtain one.

[@BRAVO0NETV]

Candians have the right to defend themselves with force. For others or yourself and property. ATC is not that uncommon and are obtainable. It's very weird how people think this its hard to get. Mine was easy to get💪🏻🍁🇨🇦

[@thatredneckcanadian519]

I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

[@davecody5997]

We should without question all have the right to carry there should never be any restrictions as long as your not a fn criminal!!!!

[@ZanderTurner-wb8ko]

But that's just it what is a criminal it's whoever the government says just for them to let you back out on the street to do it again and again and again to justify having useless police to justify taking away your rights to defending yourself by claiming you can call the police in reality the system doesn't work look around this is the consequences of that system

[@patrickpat8878]

I have a restricted permit, I have a fix address but also I can live on my sailboat, I can bring my 2 handguns and other non restricted firearms on my sailboat, my sailboat I can live aboard all years if I want , because my sailboat is like a home it’s fully autonomous in water and electricity I can live abroad all the time , just need to go in a marina couple times a a year for diesel and bought foods . I just have to advise Rachel marchetaire from the firearms office .

[@MrDieselcumminspower]

One thing worth mentioning here is that when hunting, with a non-restricted or a crossbow, you must have the firearm unloaded, locked, and in a case until 30 minutes before sunrise and 30 minutes after sunset. There's no ability to defend yourself in these instances, and if you do not follow the guidelines, you will probably be charged with poaching. Allegedly.

[@APEXAerial-51]

As a first responder, I wish we had the opportunity to carry off duty! Time for new government, time for change.

[@thomasjeffersoncry]

How is it that working in the woods is a valid reason to carry but being a Bow Hunter or other Hunter. Bears and Cougars are very dangerous but not dangerous enough to protect your life.

[@Lixmathing]

My partner and I hike a lot and do back country hiking.. Is it possible to get one fore that.? I feel that bear spray is just not enough!

[@mannybolletta]

freedom is created: not authorized

[@jdrider4149]

In Toronto a man was home invaded then then shot his mother , after he shot them , he was charged with murder for shooting them after they shot his mom in there house This place is a dumpster fire it’s totally disgusting 🤢