Navy SEALs "Coch" and Dorr Talk Med Kit Setups

[@ianpalmer3516]

When I joined the British Army in 1982 You got one field dressing and carried it in the left breast pocket of Your smock. The Falklands unpleasantness really shook things up and even got a sleeve pocket just for dressings added to the smock. I would like to see the Personal Survival Kit that You carried, which might have been just pocket edc or perhaps more. I was a sere and Arctic Survival instructor, so I have some ideas and am also aware of some things that are best left unsaid ! Excellent video, keep up the good work.

[@kendelvalle8299]

Nam 65,66, 67. Navy corpsman. I carried a Unit 1. It contained the basics plus some emergency field surgery instruments and gear. Several morphine syrettes. Two complete sucking chest wound packets. Two rolls of stuffing tape. Couple of atropine syrettes. All my guys had two large battle dressings in right cargo pocket an short cut off web belt that could be used as a tourniquet. I think I was the first guy to think of that… maybe. A lot of guys in other units liked the idea. I carried an M-14 then an M-16 & a 1911. Also a camo tarp and red flash light so I could work on wounded guys under cover. We ran five man patrols, ambushes or raids every night in our TAR from an FOB. We were a couple of clicks from the DMZ. Usually had six locals with us. Lots of fights. Our kit: Rifles and 300 rounds. Nine hand grenades on leg pouch. Three claymores… sometimes more. M-79 guy. Radio guy. No helmets or flack jackets. Nothing that rattled. Lots of starlight flares. Mags only held twenty rounds back then. Our locals carried M-1 carbines. Sometimes we hauled a BAR. Our FOB held six M-60’s and two ma duces and a small mortar pit. We were hit twice ful blast. Had pre set arty. Ambushes went from dusk till about 4 am if nothing happened. I ran a med cap in some nearby villages. Made friends and got good intel. Contracted for a bit and went to college and law school.

[@Treasuremonk]

80’s-90’s as a corpsman a cravat and a stick was only tourniquets we new. “Blow out kit” 😂 haven’t heard that in years!

[@WhatTheIfYouSeeKay]

Good info. As a retired Flight Paramedic that worked 911 EMS for over 25 years, the one thing I learned was that every major conflict that we are involved in, (WW1,WW2,Korea,VN,GWOT) there is a silver lining in that we get better advanced Emergency Medical Care and Equipment. GWOT gave us hemostatic dressing and solidified the use of tourniquets. Before that, they were considered a ”last resort” never to be used unless all else fails. We also learned not to bolus IV fluids and the use of blood products in the field have tremendous results. Thousands of lives have been saved from what we learned in this war.

[@Solly-ow4od]

I’ve been waiting for this video from Coch…..even better with Dorr. These two need paired up more!

[@pg234forreal]

Love the dialogue. Good stuff fellas

[@joshuaschoonyan3263]

"Don't damage it because you gotta pay for it!" is an unfortunate reality. Thanks fellas for these videos; def my favorite duo.

[@charliemike6251]

Just wanted to say thanks for sharing great info. Don't comment a lot but I really appreciate the knowledge. Stay safe.

[@dayontapout]

I'm a big fan of the Cat method ie: "if I fits I sits" Tourniquets and hole packing stuff where I have available space that's not going to get in the way. My day to day I don't expect to run into much craziness so an ankle kit on my person is basically it. I have a full backpack for all the extras and double, sometimes tripple, of other supplies... even some ouch stickers.

[@birdsoup777]

Love the Seals and all special operators. Thank you.

[@o0oitzJimmy]

“Self aid, buddy aid, corpsman aid!” Havent heard that in so long!

[@stumpyhigginbottom3466]

Though the stakes were lower, I went through a similar set of considerations when putting together a lightweight med kit for long hikes. TQ, chest seal, and gauze (for me, I prefer to spend the extra to have hemostatic gauze but the EMTs and trauma surgeons I've talked to tell me it doesn't make any difference) on the outside, brightly marked, and the balance of the kit in an exterior pouch on the pack. In a combat environment I'd have probably put the kit on the belt or harness, like you guys show. Anyway, thanks for the show & tell. Always good to get another perspective.

[@hjorturerlend]

From what I have gathered what makes the hemostatic gauze both great and pointless in some contexts is that it is meant to reduce the time you have to apply pressure to a wound. The pressure from the gauze stops the bleeding, but the quicker clotting allows you to stop applying pressure manually sooner and therefore move the casualty sooner. Hence it makes sense in many military situations, but in most civilian contexts you're most likely just spending 10x extra on a feature you probably won't need. Ofc if it's just a one time purchase it isn't a big deal, but if you have multiple medkits (car, EDC, hiking, tactical, secondary tactical...) ditching the $40-50 combat gauze for regular $4 gauze is a not a bad decision.

[@vtphynx]

I’m not gonna say the trauma surgeons are wrong…but they’re wrong. Regular compressed gauze, when used properly, will effectively stop bleeding. Key point though - used properly. I have watched actual medics fail at that task, and seen pedestrian trainees do even worse. Use the hemostatics. It’s what they’re designed for. For reference, I’m an Army medic and LEO med instructor.

[@ambjornborjesson5481]

Medic here. It makes a great difference if you know how to pack a wound properly. If you don't, it doesn't make a difference because you'll die.

[@ambjornborjesson5481]

@@vtphynx Amen. Surgeons aren't medics. This is not their field.

[@overwatchdesigns8969]

If you want to watch hemostatic gauze in a test you can watch the TCCC tests on pigs where they sever a femoral and stop the bleeding in minutes with it. They can move the leg after that and it doesn’t reopen. Amazing stuff and if you’re talking life or death I’ll take the extra precaution and carry the hemostatic.

[@overwatchdesigns8969]

Big fan of the “cankle” IFAK. I wear it whenever I wear pants and it can carry a TQ, chest seals, hemostatic dressing, gloves, a sharpie, and scissors. I use the one from Mountain Man Medical but there are other good ones out there. As a long distance hiker I had to laugh at Coch’s bawking at extra weight. I cut my toothbrush in half to shave weight. Every ounce counts!

[@donniemjr75]

Great job guys! Thanks for the great info!

[@thomasbrandon5111]

Kool walk down memory lane. I was originally issued a small belt pouch with a compression bandage and nothing else lol the bigger pouch came later.

[@aaronkeener95]

The IFAK plate bag was supposed to be a resupply when things calm down from my understanding and how it was pitch to the military

[@ron8566]

Really good point on tourniquets - I always carry two, but now I learned why they need to be separated and accessible on both sides of the body. Thanks for the tip!

[@AUTOxMATIK]

Alice stuff always looks cool and is durable. Bulky tho. I wonder if they made it from cordura that would make a difference

[@matthewreardon9391]

Good perspective from forty years of experience. Thanks guys.

[@buzsalmon]

Good show gents! Very informative.

[@kollow]

Sadly, me and several of my brothers have used medkits while driving and happening upon serious accidents. One with a very tragic ending. Keep a trauma kit in the car, you will probably need it eventually.

[@coryhoggatt7691]

Good stuff. You might have talked about echeloning your Med gear… what goes on the body, in the pack, in the vehicle… I don’t know if many people appreciate just how far we’ve come in med gear thanks to TECC et al. Can’t believe I went to Iraq in ‘05 with a rubber tube and a hook as a tourniquet, but that’s what we were being issued back then.

[@mikereese15]

Appreciate the content

[@adamthompson4979]

Great overview. Thank you.

[@gob7116]

Curious if Dorr was DG like Coch, another idea for a future video, what should be inside your med kit

[@onpsxmember]

Dorr knows if he stares long enough at the goat near the camera he can run through walls.^^ I hope there'll be more on the bits in the kits and how that changed over time maybe with some medic.

[@RodCornholio]

Like a Jedi.

[@jr3628]

next up basics of whats IN the blowout kit? no fluff just what will keep someone alive and how to pack it.

[@jklop7841]

Tourniquetwith sharpie, burn dressings, chest seals, celox rapid z fold, npa, and if you're trained add a decompression needle.

[@jacobkilman8444]

@@jklop7841 I don't even think burn dressings come standard anymore in most march sequence blow out kits, I think they specifically were replaced with an eye shield.

[@jasonborne4026]

"nobody used them". Thanks for sharing real history

[@daconqueror101]

I used to have it in the small of my back for lumbar support but it didn't give me that and felt more like a hard rock. I was getting serious back problems and then I stopped carrying it there.

[@wolffo999]

great vids - thx

[@Valorius]

Very informative.

[@robg8433]

Don't forget your scuba flippers in the go bag.

[@danawalkerley1395]

You didn’t go back to the WWII airborne? Wasn’t really a kit on the helmet but bandage. Great video.

[@Redpitbull44]

I would like to know who makes that small of the back med pouch. Being able to pull the whole kit out, the size and shape. That thing is ideal.

[@DoctorLizardo]

It's the London Bridge Trading blowout kit pouch.

[@Asymmetrical.athlete_]

The military is such a weird place lol, I joined the army in 97 and worked for the gov up until 2017 in different capacities….and it’s so crazy how different the branches are even with med kits

[@pyeitme508]

So cool dudes 😎

[@BirdDogey1]

I carry maxi pads for badages in my go bag. Improper tourniquet use can cause more damage.

[@Hdic2018]

Can you do a video for how to use the med kit?

[@JesusChrist2000BC]

Best med kit to have with you is an 18D. Just ask him to do it.

[@MiladJP]

I had one of those flat packs for under the plate. I don't know why, but every time I wanted to pull it out, my plate just dropped on the ground, so I called it a bad solution (for me)

[@jameswiegand832]

Love the channel. What brand of ifak do you recommend for battle belt? Thanks

[@richstone2627]

1 TQ (CAT) for each extremity is how I roll yo.

[@calebesantos5208]

Sensacional , gosto muito dos conteúdos e do trabalho de vocês operadores Seal , e como vocês trazem grandes conhecimentos ,e suas experiências operacionais muito bom forte abraço 👍😎🔱⚡👍

[@areyouawake1805]

I carry standardized police gear. Sidearm, spare mags, taser, baton, cuffs, pepper spray, light, drop side with water and IFAK. Bullet proof vest with 2 boot knives on my side armor. Spare batteries. If you're carrying a firearm, and you're not wearing a bullet proof vest. You have no edge. Just sayin. As a civilian at this point, a word to the wise. If you're going to carry a firearm? Carry less lethal as well. If you ever have to use your firearm and you get pulled into court? The opposing attorney is going to ask you about your less lethal. It will go something like this. "When you shot my client, you were carrying a firearm, but you weren't carrying any thing less lethal. It seems you wanted to shoot someone but you weren't willing to try to de-escalate the situation by other means." In Arizona, I'm the guy who used to get called on everywhere I went. I used to call the Tucson Police my back up. I open carry my rifle and make no excuses for it. When the Police show up now they say, "oh, it's you." I have a perfect record. I've never had a mass shooting iny presence. Be safe. Go with God, you're going to need him soon.

[@antoniojamison2578]

Better start putting content on rumble. KZbin is coming for you too.

[@IG10705]

Rumble is a joke

[@paulwilson8672]

LOL!!! You get shot you are going to get stripped and flipped. Gotta find the exit points. Tourniquets are great. A pressure bandage is good with the quick clot. I've been told from a Recon guy they took tampons out. It was small, sterile, absorbs blood and fits in bullet wounds. You will need stuff for your field boo-boos such as band aids and anti-bacteria. But all of it depends on what you are doing. High speed low drag what you guys were doing the minimum the better. Taking care of the family, or mass shooting event is a little different. Also, are you humping, or driving. Many considerations. I still have my med kit from the 80's also. What I make is much different. Great Video!!!

[@Ruby_Sterling]

Could use links to belt medical kits.

[@paraAA82]

I can see or sense a good rapport between Coch and Dorr. Perhaps because they, both are former SEAL’s? Of course, Dorr is a little more mature than Coch, but no matter, both are awesome.

[@TwinCastleBricks]

The name of the belt kit IFAK ? 🤔😅😊

[@richard_steen]

What watch is Coch wearing? :)

[@hanami917]

Dorr was part of Gold squadron?! =)

[@rom14141]

Forgot what I was gonna say.

[@Sharpkravmaga]

Now maybe you can show us how to use it 😉

[@richarddeichler2172]

Got 3 hours? Here's a great video on how to use it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hneYeJuljrB-ack

[@ericthomas9915]

🏥

[@seanwhite304]

You gotta love tax payer dollars paying for shit you'll never use lol.

[@JesusChrist2000BC]

Blame the politicians and senior military leaders for wasting unit funds. Meanwhile the barracks are molding from the inside out and they can't get people to join. Wonder why..

[@GLEN1061]

Such a load of sheet!

[@IG10705]

How is it a load of shit??? Care to elaborate or are you one of those that likes to calls BS with no facts?

[@concernedpatriot.2221]

Stop the bleed first than worry whether the casualty can breath 🤔? I think every doctor on earth would disagree. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@tacticalhyvecadre1049]

No they wouldn’t. You can restart breathing. You can’t put the blood back in. If it’s a serious bleed it will kill you long before you suffocate. Thx for posting