NBC/CBRN Suits: The Thin Green Line

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In the third part of our series on British and Canadian NBCW/CBRN gear, we examine a number of NBCW/CBRN suits and how they protect soldiers from nuclear, biological, and chemical threats:
-British CD Suit No.1 Mk.I
-British NBC Suit No.1 Mk. IV
-Canadian Chemical Warfare Protective Clothing Overgarment
CBRN Series:
Part I - M256A1 Chemical Agent Detection Kit: • M256A1 Chemical Agent ...
Part II - Canadian Cold War Gas Masks: • Canadian Cold War Gas ...
0:00 Introduction
0:51 How CBRN Suits Work
1:46 Early CBRN Suits
2:20 British CD Suit No.1 Mk.I
4:30 British NBC Suit No.1 Mk.II/III
5:05 British NBC Suit No.1 Mk.IV
6:52 Canadian Chemical Warfare Protective Clothing Overgarment
8:31 Personal Hygiene in CBRN Suits
10:36 CBRN Equipment Carriers
10:52 Outro
SOURCES:
Canadian Armed Forces Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Warfare Publication - Defensive Clothing and Equipment, 1960, Department of National Defence, Ottawa
JSP 410 - Survive to Fight, Edition II, Command of the Defence Council, Ministry of Defence, 1990
www.rsdl.com
chemm.hhs.gov/antidote_nervea...
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[@bob_the_bomb4508]

I was an NBC officer and also trained in chemical munitions disposal. In the early 1980s, soldiers in my regiment participated in a classified NBC exercise. The findings of which were so devastating there were a number of urgent and significant changes, leading to the introduction of some good equipment (the Mk 4 suit, the S10 respirator with drinking straw, and the Chemical Agent Monitor (CAM)), some bad equipment (the NAIAD chemical warning device - great idea but tended to false alarm in the presence of things like Brut aftershave*) and the downright ugly (the facelet). There were a number of changes in drills too, and the defecation drill was binned as it was found during the exercise that it was simply impossible to do without cross-contamination. The exercise was so informative because it was covered in umpires and there was zero tolerance for people saying things like “well for real I’d…”. One lapse and you were declared dead and taken out of the exercise. In one such exercise I found myself promoted from 2Lt to being the regimental CO because I was literally the last officer left… * mind you, perhaps the NAIAD was simply alarmed on the grounds of good taste…

[@jastrapper190]

I remember in 2003 we were REALLY operating in an NBC environment. During the initial invasion of Iraq, Sadam was shooting missiles and rockets that were NBC capable. Some shot down but some were not shot down. Every time we got warning of an incoming we had to go into the maximum MOPP posture. Mask, over boots, gloves, suit, etc. I remember being 50/50 watch (half the unit awake watching the men who sleep) and trying to sleep in the mask. It was ungodly hot in Saudi Arabia even at night. I remember the mask becoming such a horror that I’d rather take it off and risk death than having to exist in it for another hour. Which many people did. Thankfully none of the incoming contained anything other than conventional explosives (Or so they say). Chemical weapons are a nightmare… but so is existing and trying to live in a MOPP suit.

[@dustinbrueggemann1875]

@@jastrapper190 Really speaks volumes about the sanity of such weapons and their wielders. They don't actually affect the ability of a developed nation to wage war, they just turn it into an even bigger shit pile.

[@jastrapper190]

@@dustinbrueggemann1875 ​ @dustinbrueggemann1875 ​ I am retyping this with edits to try to get through the KZbin censors. lol don’t mind the “x”’s. Or weird spacing. oh they work great. Just like the nu clear bo xmb worked great. N xerve ag xents are amazing. They will clean out command bunkers and whole cities if used properly. They are very very effective as a wex apon of war. They are brutal a barbarous for sure but nobody blinked an eye with the At omic Bom bings. Quite the opposite. America celebrated and rejoiced at those Japa nese dex aths. Women children and old and fighting age men. Japan was our Nations enemy and they refused to surrender and stop the w ar they they so deceitfully and foolishly started. Their whole Nation was made to pay just like the Ge xrman Nation (in places like Dres den Germany (where the whole sale fi xrebombing of cities kix lled many many times more civilians than the A bombs managed in Hiros hima and Nag asaki). The reality is if you use chemicals or biological or nuclear agents… you had best expect to reap the whirlwind in return. This is why James Mattis (he was once my commanding General when he led the 1st Marine Division in Iraq when we were wearing our MOPP suits) as our Secretary of Defense and President Trump box mbed Syria and their military. The Syrian President Assad was using chem ical ne rve agents and other agents (like Chlorine) to w ipe out the Ku rds and the other groups fighting the civ il wx ar there. The w xar in Syria (and the use and “normalization” of chemical agents by Syr ian Govt and Ru ssia waging w xar in Syria) was why Mattis ended up bombing S yr ia and eventually being fired by Trump (his worst decision as President imo. I am still going to vote for him but what happened with Mattis was a real blunder). NBCR weapons are very effective. The issue is most leaders are to weak knee’d to respond to their use with w xar or to use them in retaliation. Rus sia has used Novic hok (which is a much more deadly version of VX by many thousands of times developed by the old Soviet Union) regularly to carry out political as xsassinations. Not too many years ago Ru ssian agents k xill Ed and crippled many in a United Kingdom city by as xsassinating (trying to) a defector. They also “slimed” many first responders and police and innocent civilians with this Novic hok Nerve Agent (it was disguised inside a perfume bottle and picked up out of the trash by a young girl who was ki xlled). Nasty nasty business. Not sure if KZbin will censor this as they usually do to anything I type. Hopefully not. Oh and the Novic hok was originally smeared on the KGB defectors (I believe he was a high ranking officer in the KGB) door knob (he was living in Britain under an alias at the time). He was put into the hospital on a ventilator along with his daughter for many months and apparently they lived (by a miracle). But others such as police who responded and doctors were also contaminated and str uck down by just the ne rve agen ts residue. Look it up. It was a very famous example of Russias flaunting of everything that is held to be sacred by the western world. Hope this is allowed through the censors this time. Cheers.

[@jastrapper190]

​@@dustinbrueggemann1875 ​ @dustinbrueggemann1875 ​ I am retyping this with edits to try to get through the KZbin censors. lol don’t mind the “x”’s. Or weird spacing. oh they work great. Just like the nu clear bo mb worked great. N xerve ag xents are amazing. They will clean out command bunkers and whole cities if used properly. They are very very effective as a wex apon of war. They are brutal and barbarous for sure but nobody blinked an eye with the At omic Bom bings. Quite the opposite. America celebrated and rejoiced at those Ja panese dex aths. Women children and old and fighting age men. Japan was our Nations enemy and they refused to surrender and stop the war they they so deceitfully and foolishly started. Their whole Nation was made to pay just like the Ge xrman Nation (in places like Dresden Germany (where the whole sale fi xrebombing of cities kix lled many many times more civilians than the A bombs managed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki). The reality is if you use chemicals or biological or nuclear agents… you had best expect to reap the whirlwind in return. This is why James Mattis (he was once my commanding General when he led the 1st Marine Division in Iraq when we were wearing our MOPP suits) as our Secretary of Defense and President Trump box mbed Syria and their military. The Syrian President Assad was using chem ical ne rve agents and other agents (like Chlorine) to w ipe out the Kurds and the other groups fighting the civ il wx ar there. The w xar in Syria (and the use and “normalization” of chemical agents by Syrian Govt and Russia waging w xar in Syria) was why Mattis ended up being fired by Trump (his worst decision as President imo. I am still going to vote for him but what happened with Mattis was a real blunder). NBCR weapons are very effective. The issue is most leaders are to weak knee’d to respond to their use with w xar or to use them in retaliation. Russia has used Novic hok (which is a much more deadly version of VX by many thousands of times developed by the old Soviet Union) regularly to carry out political as xsassinations. Not too many years ago Russian agents k xill Ed and crippled many in a United Kingdom city by as xsassinating (trying to) a defector. They also “slimed” many first responders and police and innocent civilians with this Novic hok Nerve Agent (it was disguised inside a perfume bottle and picked up out of the trash by a young girl who was ki* *ed). Nasty nasty business. Not sure if KZbin will censor this as they usually do to anything I type. Hopefully not. Oh and the Novic hok was originally smeared on the KGB defectors (I believe he was a high ranking officer in the KGB) door knob (he was living in Britain under an alias at the time). He was put into the hospital on a ventilator along with his daughter for many months and apparently they lived (by a miracle). But others such as police who responded and doctors were also contaminated and struck down by just the residue. Look it up. It was a very famous example of Russias flaunting of everything that is held to be sacred by the west ern world. Hope this is allowed through the censors this time. Cheers.

[@jastrapper190]

@@dustinbrueggemann1875 ​ @dustinbrueggemann1875 ​ @dustinbrueggemann1875 ​ I am retyping this with edits to try to get through the KZbin censors. lol don’t mind the “x”’s. Or weird spacing. oh they work great. Just like the nu clear bo mb worked great. N xerve ag xents are amazing. They will clean out command bunkers and whole cities if used properly. They are very very effective as a wex apon of war. They are brutal and barbarous for sure but nobody blinked an eye with the At omic Bom bings. Quite the opposite. America celebrated and rejoiced at those Ja panese dex aths. Women children and old and fighting age men. Japan was our Nations enemy and they refused to surrender and stop the war they they so deceitfully and foolishly started. Their whole Nation was made to pay just like the Ge xrman Nation (in places like Dresden Germany (where the whole sale fi xrebombing of cities kix lled many many times more civilians than the A bombs managed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki). The reality is if you use chemicals or biological or nuclear agents… you had best expect to reap the whirlwind in return. This is why James Mattis (he was once my commanding General when he led the 1st Marine Division in Iraq when we were wearing our MOPP suits) as our Secretary of Defense and President Trump box mbed Syria and their military. The Syrian President Assad was using chem ical ne rve agents and other agents (like Chlorine) to w ipe out the Kurds and the other groups fighting the civ il wx ar there. The w xar in Syria (and the use and “normalization” of chemical agents by Syrian Govt and Russia waging w xar in Syria) was why Mattis ended up being fired by Trump (his worst decision as President imo. I am still going to vote for him but what happened with Mattis was a real blunder). NBCR weapons are very effective. The issue is most leaders are to weak knee’d to respond to their use with w xar or to use them in retaliation. Russia has used Novic hok (which is a much more deadly version of VX by many thousands of times developed by the old Soviet Union) regularly to carry out political as xsassinations. Not too many years ago Russian agents k xill Ed and crippled many in a United Kingdom city by as xsassinating (trying to) a defector. They also “slimed” many first responders and police and innocent civilians with this Novic hok Nerve Agent (it was disguised inside a perfume bottle and picked up out of the trash by a young girl who was ki* *ed). Nasty nasty business. Not sure if KZbin will censor this as they usually do to anything I type. Hopefully not. Oh and the Novic hok was originally smeared on the KGB defectors (I believe he was a high ranking officer in the KGB) door knob (he was living in Britain under an alias at the time). He was put into the hospital on a ventilator along with his daughter for many months and apparently they lived (by a miracle). But others such as police who responded and doctors were also contaminated and struck down by just the residue. Look it up. It was a very famous example of Russias flaunting of everything that is held to be sacred by the west ern world. Hope this is allowed through the censors this time. Cheers.

[@Grond76]

My Uncle was in the Canadian Army during the 80's and relayed the following anecdote regarding NBC exercises. Bloke gets out of his wagon to answer the call of nature, disappearing behind a clump of bushes. Now bear in mind that the overall type suits were rather clumsy so urgent needs of this type often meant drills went out the window. A few minutes later our lad finishes and stands up, only to suddenly howl like a man posessed and shout: "I'VE SHAT IN MY HOOD!"

[@dustinbrueggemann1875]

My friend's dad shit on his gun once after it fell out of his dollar store holster. One can only imagine the names that followed the poor bastard who dropped one on his own hazmat gear.

[@davidhager3650]

I was a career soldier 20 years I always felt that if you were wearing the suit for real in a contaminated environment I would go ahead and crap in the suit. I had bigger worries!

[@jastrapper190]

Another little detail we were taught. The gloves are supposed to be worn under the MOPP shirt sleeves… but we were taught to put a “cuff” in the end of the gloves (which were gauntlet style and were long). So if chemical agents get on the hands and you raise your hands over your head… the “cuff” will catch the contaminated liquid and not allow it to run into the shirt sleeve. There was also training for “first aid” while wearing MOPP. How to give CPR while a casualty has a mask on. It involved manipulating the arms into a “Superman pose” and then bringing the arms back to the chest with the intention of raising and lowering the rib cage and expanding and contracting the chest and lungs to get air to flow into the lungs and be expelled with only external manipulation. There was also a BVM (bag valve mask) like a civilian emergency room would use that would attach onto the mask fittings. While defecating in MOPP gear… everyone knows what I’m talking about here even if they don’t admit it, but in Iraq often the ground was rocky and there was no digging a hole. You just crapped on the ground and we were wearing the MOPP suit in a low level MOPP posture (suit on, mask stowed and carried but in carrier, gloves stowed in mask carrier , over boots within 15 minutes, etc). The suit we wore had “suspenders” and the end of the suspenders would invariably fall right into your pile of crap. Often guys would not even notice it until they tried putting them back on. It sound funny and gross but the way they were designed… it happened a lot. Vomiting is another situation you need train for. How to clear a casualty or your own mask if you vomit. Small “chunks” and liquid can get blown out the mask outlet rubber valve but they can also cause the mask to no longer seal. We also took a label maker and made stickers to affix inside the mask “eyepiece” visible when looking at the mask from the outside. These labels contained name, blood type, etc. so that gaining access to the dog tags wasn’t necessary (because it involved opening the MOPP Suit). You could look at the sticker and identify the man because everyone looks the same in MOPP. We also had special battery powered “voice megaphones” that attached onto the standard mask port that amplified the voice so it was more understandable while using a radio. We wrapped our wrists with chemical detection paper. We got small pox vaccinations and prophylactic medications for anthrax. We carried 2 Pam chloride and Atropine as nerve agent treatment. Occasionally guys in the BN would get inadvertently “stuck” with the autropine (they were contained in auto injection pens) by accident. I still have nightmares of the hand and arm signal (two arms making fists raised over the head and then down to the shoulders multiple times while shouting “gas gas gas” and voice alarms… NBC is a nightmare. Not even the chemicals nuclear biological or radiological threat… but just wearing the mask. ‘Shudders’.

[@ptonpc]

I can't imagine having to function long term in conditions where the slightest mistake would kill you.

[@jastrapper190]

@@ptonpc Existing in the mask is misery… fighting (physical exertion) in it is even worse. I have heard they now make “blowers” or a mechanical unit with a fan and a battery that puts positive pressure through the filter into the mask so breathing is easier. Without it. The standard filters we used… it feels “difficult” to get a full lung full of air. Like you are breathing through a straw and it requires much more effort and “work” for the lungs to pull air through the filter into the mask. In extreme heat the mask almost can “fill up” with sweat (this is just an exaggeration because any liquid will be expelled out the outlet valve). The reality is that you are very seldom in the maximum MOPP posture. That’s the thing with the MOPP levels. They can be tailored to the situation. From having all the NBC ensemble stowed and readily available but wearing nothing… or just the mask if your only threat is “lung irritants” that are non life threatening like CS gas (tear gas or pepper spray etc)… or just wearing the over suit and carrying the mask and gloves in the carrier with over boots within 15 minutes… etc etc… it’s all depends on the threat and the environment and the commanders. It is very similar to “overhead scuba diving” or “wreak diving” or “confined space scuba (or rebreather)”. In those environments… if your equipment fails… you are in a world of hurt. Some of the threats are neutralized quickly with exposure to the environment like CS gas… a strong breeze and the chemical agent is gone and you can breath easy… other chemical agents are “persistent” meaning that once a liquid (even it microscopic droplets carried by the winds) lands on a surface… it does not evaporate and it is resistant to UV radiation etc etc and if you touch a contaminated surface hours or even days after application it’s still capable of inducing casualties.

[@nickjohnson410]

Sweet... Thank You! P.S. I'm so glad you answered the call of nature question. You knew we were all thinking it.

[@SeanBZA]

Those suits are the reason MRE's are high energy, high protein and low fibre, so that you can eat them for a week, and not actually have built up enough to need to go drop one. Though the result is kind of compact, and the old running joke of having given birth after the first MRE derived stool.

[@robonator2945]

10:29 that is prime shitpost material

[@hypotheticalaxolotl]

S'more in a field than a post, tbh.

[@the.bog.]

My wife and I have really been enjoying watching your videos! You're one of the few channels we wait to watch on our TV after getting home from work

[@jimsvideos7201]

The old green suits were great in the winter, take from that what you will.

[@user-gs6lp9ko1c]

The US version was fairly comfortable in cold damp English weather, where I was stationed in the USAF. Can't imagine wearing them in the desert!

[@philsmith2444]

US chemical suits from the 80s & 90s were 2-piece, with snaps on the back to keep the top from riding up when you bent over. Drinking with the M17A1 mask was pretty simple, you tested the canteen cap with detector paper and if it was clean you inserted the drinking valve, blew into it, and let the water blow back out through the mouthpiece. If the cap was contaminated you didn’t decontaminate it, you “obtained an uncontamjnated canteen.” Or you went thirsty. With the tanker/aircrew masks there was no drinking tube, you had to loosen the (uncontaminated) canteen cap, take deep breaths and hold, with eyes closed, then unseal the mask, lift it away from your face, put canteen under hood without touching the inside of the hood, mask, or your face, take a swallow or 2 of water while still holding your breath, pull down mask, clear and check, then breathe. Repeat if you’re still thirsty. The 2 piece suit made defecating somewhat simple, you just had to make sure not to let the inside of the top touch the outside of the top or pants. Or anything else. You were supposed to fold it up on itself to keep it away from your skin, do the deed (including wiping), decontaminate if you think you got contaminated, then reattach the suit. Then bury and camouflage the waste. Since the likelihood of contaminating yourself was fairly high, it was recommended to just go in the suit.

[@Nick-bb4nk]

"It was recommended to just go in the suit." I would rather die from whatever hell awaited me outside of the suit.

[@oml81mm]

UK noddy suits had a "sell by" date and were issued for training only when date expired. I put my training suit through the washing machine umpteen times to get rid of the activated charcoal. This made it quite comfortable to wear.

[@Penekamp11]

I saw a piece on these 30 years ago. They were called “ integrated battlefield suits”. They seemed as impractical then as they do now.

[@davidvik1451]

While wearing the CBR suite in a stand-by configuration, (no mask)we soon discovered that the carbon layer of the suite was quite effective in protecting those in a confined area such as the turret of an M-109 howitzer from the offensive odor of personal gaseous emissions. I guess it provided protection from the enemy within as well as without.

[@lkmh3223]

the instuction pages made me fall out of my chair and spill my coffee.

[@jastrapper190]

The cat licking his B-hole to start the video was the funniest thing I have watched today. Great job keeping it in. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@lo2740]

the cat was licking his paw

[@jastrapper190]

@@lo2740 sure… 😂😂😂

[@madderanger7838]

The cat just got out of a MOPP suit after three days in it.

[@ArturdeSousaRocha]

The cat is decontaminating.

[@jastrapper190]

@@ArturdeSousaRocha 😂😂😂😂👍🏻

[@petebeatminister]

I got one of the 60s suits when they threw them away in the 80s. Fairly thin, dark green and with active carbon lining inside. It was really awful to wear. But so were the newer ones. The soldiers always hated to wear them, on exercises or so.

[@o2wow]

The parashoot jump depicted at 0:01 is the Man, Joseph Kittingen. That photo is from August 16, 1960, Joseph Kittinger parachuted from nearly 20 miles above the earth’s surface.

[@moggridge1]

I follow exactly the same procedure when I have to relieve myself!

[@akiko009]

As you stated, but perhaps not strongly enough, is that when it comes to radioactive material, the most dangerous is what gets into the body through ingestion or inhalation. For example, an alpha emitter outside the body is effectively harmless. But inside the body it can easily be a death sentence. So the key is to keep nuclear material away from the body, which is what these suits are all about. Naturally this doesn't address gamma (and to some extent beta) radiation that might be present in loci, but that's a secondary military consideration, given that those are present only near the epicenter of a blast and in the primary fallout path. Conveniently the requirements for chemical and biological agents materials is similar, i.e. avoiding all contact with skin and ingestion. As to the 21 day usability of the suits, I'd take that with a massive grain of salt. The Really Bad Stuff would work its way in much faster than that, unless one were beyond religious in following the guidelines. Just the act of urinating with anthrax on the suit would likely be the end of the line, because of contact exposure. But anything is better than nothing, right? PS. For civilian purposes, having a bunch of full body Tyvek bunny suits, full face masks and rubber gloves will offer protection to most NBC agents, provided that one knows how to use the equipment correctly. The military can't go that basic though, as they are expected to fight a war in all that protective equipment as well.

[@manictiger]

I wondered about that. Tyvex seems awfully easy to tear. So, I guess the military has heavier gear than the thin little Tyvex suits floating around the market.

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

As I recall the 21 days is “21 days of wear” not 21 days in à contaminated environment. We would expect to conduct a suit changing drill once at the edge of the contaminated area.

[@akiko009]

@@bob_the_bomb4508 Agreed.

[@51WCDodge]

For casualties in UK, there was a carbon black bag , that fitted over the top half of the body, with a clear eye panel.

[@christophersilsby7829]

I have seen someone's military had a cover for the head that had an elastic strap that went under the arm to hold flaps down, then the upper outer part goes over the top. Plus the US military has been using an adapter for their canteen, almost like the camelback water carrier have, a tube is connected to the canteen and it is connected to the mask.

[@febobartoli]

Green Line, green tie. Loving this series.

[@shaider1982]

The old magazine series, Combat amd Survival, has an article on how to fight with the NBC suit, somthing about shooting lower than usual with the rifle when using the gas mask. Has pictures of a real soldier doing the procedures, though not exposing himself like in 10:31.

[@skybluskyblueify]

Glad I found this channel. Interesting and fun.

[@zombiebiker5581]

Noddy sounds like naughty when you say it, makes me smile, good videos.

[@jastrapper190]

Another excellent video. Thank you.

[@eriklaken1025]

Thank you so much, fantastic channel, i can,t get enoff of your presentation. :)

[@wrightcubbins]

God I love your intro's 🤣 Absolute masterpiece

[@ed.puckett]

[7:15] LOL, could this mask have inspired the idea of Gray Aliens? Thank you for your videos!

[@ixxxxxxx]

i have this exact model of mask, got it from an army surplus store years ago before it closed. local military warehouse was kind enough to give me a free filter for it, because i was very young and it didn't come with one. sadly one of the strap buckles were broken when i bought it and i'm not sure how i would fix it :( the rubber seems to have torn around one of the old plastic buckles, it's unfortunate because i hear these are somewhat rare. anyone reading have any ideas?

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

Epic. I love your channel man. =)

[@RedHillian]

I can't believe you made me stand up so I could read about toileting in a contaminated environment. ;)

[@Matt_The_Hugenot]

My boots are filling with sweat just watching this.

[@CathodeRayNipplez]

What a great random channel. 😀

[@La_Space]

The organ music...... 😂. Suitable choice for sitting on the throne I say.

[@johnmichael1979]

God Save the Queen; nice! Love your channel!

[@tsbrownie]

Given a cat's claws vs NBC/CBRN, I'm going with cat claws.

[@Jake_Fish_pleb]

The canadian one looks like an alien kinda from far lol

[@Coconut-219]

"Don't worry about it - thyroid cancer is not a service related injury!"

[@FaithyJo]

🫡 God Save the King indeed....

[@Thx1138sober]

US Army Basic Training, Ft. Dix NJ 1981 NBC training: Instructor tells us, "when you see the flash of a nuclear weapon, immediately fall to the ground covering your weapon and hands, that way you will still be able to shoot people for the next 3 days or so until you die of radiation poisoning."

[@johnnyrabenold6133]

OMG the cat!

[@scratchpad7954]

So, KUTV prior to 1995 and KSL since 1995 in Salt Lake City, Utah?

[@jp-um2fr]

Being an Englishman first and British second, I was not too sure about God Save The Queen in the background. However, one cannot even think that you were extracting the urine, as that was in the video. For one terrible fleeting moment I had visions of Her Late Majesty 'doing the business' so to speak. I am a Monarchist, but I think a certain chap should remember that Charles 1st lost his head due to being a hypocritical, egotistical, pompous idiot. Sorry to be 'orf' topic a bit. Why on earth I enjoy your videos so much, I have no idea, but you ended up top of my KZbin list. Axe sharpening was second.

[@Grimpy970]

Comparing the equipment and procedures shown with the equivalent civillian hazmat precautions really highlights how expendable these people were. The suits themselves have no indicator that they've become saturated with chemicals other than the wearer noticing symptoms of exposure. By then, it's not time to get a new suit, they're just a causality. Similarly, they have openings at the neck, wrists, and ankles. Without a dramatic overpressure from an on-board pump, those absolutely will allow cbrn contaminants to enter the suit. As for the eating, drinking, and waste procedures, there's no safe way to do that in 'the field'. Holes in the plan primarily take the form of exposure to saturated air after decontamination. Whether it's the water bottle, the food you're eating, the spoon, or your own genitals, you're absolutely getting unfiltered outside air into your suit. The fact that they're paper-thin is just icing on the cake. It's not like soldiers' uniforms are designed to be rugged from extreme wear and tear or anything. Most of these problems could be solved by an aggressive positive pressure system, but as it stands, they don't actually meet the standards of US level C Hazmat suits. Kind of a nightmare- if you have to actually rely on one of these suits, you likely only have a couple days to live

[@maxpayne2574]

Considering the gas my cat can produce it could be.

[@emiliodesalvo7024]

QuaRpel! Quartermaster's Repellant!

[@abpccpba]

See if you can find a " Magic Lantern" . I have seen pictures of them. Will be a good "Show". Pun intended.

[@JackManiaky]

Fun fact: the slang term for CBRN suits in the Canadian Armed Forces is "Bunny Suit". No, I don't know the story unfortunately lol

[@ChrisAthanas]

100k by end of summer

[@TheSkippyboy]

Based off growth pattern, easily hits 100k in 3 months

[@philnewcomers9170]

the GDR took a different tack on this.The made a pullover type garment made of linnen heaviley iimpregnated with some type of rubber theopening for the face is200mm therefor sealable they must have used some sort of BA there is also trousers witch seem to be sealable to the uppers to role the two flaps together feet into rubber boots and close fittingtrousrr legs hands same sort of fitting ive got the upper part for wet weather mocycling helmet goes in esely A MSA rebreather could be acomadated esely mabey Dragar unit

[@tonybennett638]

I'm feeling poorly just starting this 🤪

[@tonybennett638]

Reckon with all this old or new tech... I'm fucked 😅

[@manictiger]

Don't worry, we all are. Even with all the anti-Flir tricks in the world, I can't help but feel something would leak through and a drone would just do its business from 5 miles away anyway, and you'd never know where it came from.

[@wiesejay]

God Save the King! 😂

[@chapps80]

There is no instructions on how to use the toilet paper.

[@broderfoder9348]

Cat, bear, raccoon, newt

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

Ah I remember the NBC facelet. A complete failure of credibility. Even though it might have worked, the cheap design meant you looked like a Donald Duck impersonator. We couldn’t train in it because the lads couldn’t take it seriously. If it had been shaped like an N95 mask there would have been much more believable.

[@tucopacifico]

Saw a lot about wiping your gloves and whatnot, but I didn’t see anything about wiping after defecation in the instructions. Ew.

[@pyro1047]

Yeah, but to be fair I'd rather be Ewww and miserable for a few days than possibly risk going down eternally in unit history as "The poor SOB in XYZ Company who Mustard Gassed his Ass and Balls". If it was a Nerve Agent like Sarin or VX I contaminated myself with, I'd be too busy to care at that moment gasping for breath, while having a severe seizure and defecating myself anyways as my CNS loses control of my muscles until I finally get to the point my nerves are saturated enough they've become paralyzed and my body just locks up, ceasing all movement except for a slow wheezing gasp, until even that's ceased. Pro tip: You're in a MOPP environment and all of a sudden your nose starts running, and you notice there's more spit in your mouth than usual. Punch in your Atropine Auto-Injector and start making way for the Decon and Triage area. Nerve agents are like Carbon Monoxide poisoning and Oxygen, your body can't tell the difference and absorbs both as if they were the same thing. So Atropine is a vaccine, not a cure; so you need to take it while there's still receptors left for it to use. If they're all already bonded, there's nothing you can do.

[@777anarchist]

Get out of here Stalker